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A friend of mine asked me if I could put Android on his HD2 as he bought one with German language and he doesn't understand anything at all. Now we wan't to completely remove Windows Mobile 6.5.x from the phone and install Android. ICS with HTC sense is prefered but and older version will also do.
I have found multiple tutorials, but I wonder which method is the best. NAND or SD?
At this point in time we don't have any SD-card in the phone, so I asume the Sd method isn't usable. But which method and ROM is the best to use if we want to be able to switch language and want Android experience as close to the HTC android phones as possible.
Are there any bugs with the HD2 in Android? I've heard that there should be problems with the sound when calling people, and the data-connection should be unstable as well. Are these rumors still current or have they been solved?
CTSRP said:
Hi
A friend of mine asked me if I could put Android on his HD2 as he bought one with German language and he doesn't understand anything at all. Now we wan't to completely remove Windows Mobile 6.5.x from the phone and install Android. ICS with HTC sense is prefered but and older version will also do.
I have found multiple tutorials, but I wonder which method is the best. NAND or SD?
At this point in time we don't have any SD-card in the phone, so I asume the Sd method isn't usable. But which method and ROM is the best to use if we want to be able to switch language and want Android experience as close to the HTC android phones as possible.
Are there any bugs with the HD2 in Android? I've heard that there should be problems with the sound when calling people, and the data-connection should be unstable as well. Are these rumors still current or have they been solved?
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Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information
adil1508 said:
Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information
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Thanks for the quick reply. I will read further on how to install using NAND method. But how big should the SD-card be. As said he doesn't have a SD-card in his phone. I have one but it's only 128MB, so not a whole lot. If the phone was using the MiniSD cards instead of microSD I had a 1GB card. But isn't it possible to get a Gingerbread HTC Sense ROM and then extract and repack it on the PC so it can fit the 128MB card. Or are the packed ROM's small enough to fit on a 128MB card?
Tell your friend to invest in about 4GB or more, once you've got a few apps, video video clips, music files and recovery backups then the 4GB will be eaten fairly fast imo. If you grab a class 6 card you can get one for less then $1/GB (aud).
parker09 said:
Tell your friend to invest in about 4GB or more, once you've got a few apps, video video clips, music files and recovery backups then the 4GB will be eaten fairly fast imo. If you grab a class 6 card you can get one for less then $1/GB (aud).
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Sure I'll tell him that. But will the installationsfiles for Android fit on my 128MB card?
CTSRP said:
Sure I'll tell him that. But will the installationsfiles for Android fit on my 128MB card?
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No.
CTSRP said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I will read further on how to install using NAND method. But how big should the SD-card be. As said he doesn't have a SD-card in his phone. I have one but it's only 128MB, so not a whole lot. If the phone was using the MiniSD cards instead of microSD I had a 1GB card. But isn't it possible to get a Gingerbread HTC Sense ROM and then extract and repack it on the PC so it can fit the 128MB card. Or are the packed ROM's small enough to fit on a 128MB card?
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Dont forget the thanks button
Anyways, basically the sd card is used to put the rom in and all music, pics, apps etc. will be stored on the sd card. plus, the 128 mb card will not hold the rom. Some files of the rom are installed on the sd card as well(some) so yeah, like the above user said, invest in a class 4 sd card with a fairly high amount of memory.
try the link below, it could give you an idea
You will need an SD card anyhow as mentioned before. Not only for flashing it to Nand, also some ROMs needs an ext(2 or 3) partition on the SD card. Specially when it's an EU device as yours might seems.
F.e.: I got an EU model and the great Energy ROM running - this needs a 1Gb ext(2 or 3) partition on the SD card!
-> It depends on the ROM of your choice.
Right now, I guess there is now ICS ROM with sense out there - or an I wrong?
I can definetly recommend the NRG ROM as this one runs really great. There is also a very good lashing instruction in its thread.
Good luck :good:
Ooh, ooh, me too!!
adil1508 said:
Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information
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I also want to completely remove winmo6.5 from my wife's stock UK HTC HD2 and put some form of Android OS on it so I can then get her Ovivo Mobile mobile connection to work (I'm not bothered about dual boot functionality). Could you quickly link to a guide you would recommend to do this ("Thanks" will always be given :good: ).
(Note: I had an HD2 once, and bricked it after 9 months of ownership with a dodgy radio, so I'm a bit once-bitten-twice-shy about doing it).
shaggydabbydo said:
I also want to completely remove winmo6.5 from my wife's stock UK HTC HD2 and put some form of Android OS on it so I can then get her Ovivo Mobile mobile connection to work (I'm not bothered about dual boot functionality). Could you quickly link to a guide you would recommend to do this ("Thanks" will always be given :good: ).
(Note: I had an HD2 once, and bricked it after 9 months of ownership with a dodgy radio, so I'm a bit once-bitten-twice-shy about doing it).
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Here is my favourite guide. It's incredibly simple. You should really search before posting though, it isn't difficult to find.
Thanks
Nigeldg said:
Here is my favourite guide. It's incredibly simple. You should really search before posting though, it isn't difficult to find.
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Thanks (and "thanks" added). I did search [and read the "sticky") but there were lots and I got confused as to which one. I'll give the one you recommend a go (which incidentaly did not come up in my [brief] search. :good:
shaggydabbydo said:
(which incidentaly did not come up in my [brief] search. :good:
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Ah, you see, it shouldn't be [brief] but [thorough]
Nigeldg said:
Ah, you see, it shouldn't be [brief] but [thorough]
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Ah, but I would have been thoroughly confused with a thorough search, fortunatly I was only briefly confused .
Guys, I got huge problem!
I don't know if this happened to someone but it's very bad.
I am in big trouble with installing games right now, they kill my android, I mean kill really, after installing few best games, which I really want to play, my android drain the battery in 12 hours and even when he have enough battery he crash and after that he do not turn on anymore!
To start use the phone I have to install a backup to original to run it again.
Someone know something about that?
How it is possible and HOW AVOID THIS AND INSTALL ANY GAME?
Help.:crying:
Is your phone a tmo or eu? Are you using an a2sd script? is it just with games or it's about apps in general?
Marvlesz said:
Is your phone a tmo or eu? Are you using an a2sd script? is it just with games or it's about apps in general?
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hey, my phone is TMO, I am new to android and I am astonished what Android can run without changing hardware but you ask me to much, I don't know what it's a2sd script and is first time I think about it! How can I know which I have?
After installation I start installing games and I got problems so I can't confirm right now if I have the same issue with apps too, that will be a massive problem!
What can I do to let you help me?
Marvlesz said:
is it just with games or it's about apps in general?
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ok, I can confirm that, it's in general! :crying:
I just try to install Absolute System Root Tool and he crashed, immediately and completely.
This never happened with games, I was able to play with few games but when I leaved the phone in standby he crashed by him self.
Where is the problem?
You have a tmo, so forget about the a2sd script.
Which bootloader do you have (clk or magldr) ? and what rom are you using ? and what is your recovery partition.
P.S.: Was it you who installed Android on it or you bought it already installed/let someone do it for you?
Marvlesz said:
You have a tmo, so forget about the a2sd script.
Which bootloader do you have (clk or magldr) ? and what rom are you using ? and what is your recovery partition.
P.S.: Was it you who installed Android on it or you bought it already installed/let someone do it for you?
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Ok, I do not have CLK ot MAGLDR, I downloaded Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 2.3Revolution, kernel Hastarin 7.7, Android 2.2 but they call 2.3 for from last update. I do not use recovery partition because there are not partitions, all is on sd fat32 partition, basicly old stuff, but I like the rom. I put all the package folder (Android) into my sd, the type Android is based on rootfs.img, and I run it from Windows Mobile 6.5 with Android Launcher. First time he boot in 10 minuts because he had to made the fresh data.img of 1024MB. After he boot I reboot 3 times and he working very well, the problem comming when I try to install app or games, fully sure.
All the work I did by my self, few tip here and there, thanks XDA ofcurse.
eclyptos said:
.... here and there, thanks XDA ofcurse.
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That's not what it sound like, thankx XDA ofcurse for the good job! Not because I have problem I have to blame someone, happens but I will be glad to solve this problem soon as is possible.
Any idea?
Hmmm .. to be honest with you, the last time I used an sd-build was about 2 years ago. I do not know what may cause such an issue. It could be the sd-card's partition since you are unable to "write data" to the "data.img" file. Or it could be a problem with that particular build.
Can you try the same build on a different sd card?
I remember having some problems, and a format of my sd-card usually solved them. (due to leftovers from previous roms) << you can try this one as well.
I am sorry, I am not experienced in sd-roms.
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Hmmm .. to be honest with you, the last time I used an sd-build was about 2 years ago. I do not know what may cause such an issue. It could be the sd-card's partition since you are unable to "write data" to the "data.img" file.......
Can you try the same build on a different sd card?
I remember having some problems, and a format of my sd-card usually solved them
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I was thinking exactly about do that, I got now the last Sandisk Micro SDHC 32GB Class 10 and I am unhappy because she don't work well from the first time. The first day I put the OS Android into this card he never turned on. I formatted the card with CMD and the card start working a little bit faster than before but not really well, also Android start working. Today I already paid for Samsung 32GB Class 10.
But what if I change the card and I will have same problems?
Marvlesz said:
Or it could be a problem with that particular build.
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Probably, but if will be a such huge issue with this build, or builds, someone should know, right?
Marvlesz said:
. (due to leftovers from previous roms) << you can try this one as well.
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hmmm.....I do not understand what you mean?
Do you mean a different build? I will be happy to test the Android recommended from you!
Do you have a download link?
Marvlesz said:
I am sorry, I am not experienced in sd-roms.
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yeha, Come on! Your are a Senior here!!
I have to have Android on SD but I am really unexperted. What do you suggest to do?
Do you know some good Android OS for SD card well made Stable and Fast for daily use?
eclyptos said:
hmmm.....I do not understand what you mean?
Do you mean a different build? I will be happy to test the Android recommended from you!
Do you have a download link?
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yeha, Come on! Your are a Senior here!!
I have to have Android on SD but I am really unexperted. What do you suggest to do?
Do you know some good Android OS for SD card well made Stable and Fast for daily use?
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I mean, format the sd card to remove any leftovers from previous roms.
Oh stop it, you :3
But come on, everyone with 100 posts is a senior. I may be a senior in particular subjects to a limit, but when it comes to sd card, I'm sorry .
I am also wondering why you didn't have so many replies.
Anyway, report back and I will try my best.
Marvlesz said:
It could be the sd-card's partition since you are unable to "write data" to the "data.img" file.
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I try to think about that and I get confused a little bit, if I am unable to "write data" to the "data.img", in this situation if I install ANY app or Games, which issue I will have? An immediate crash, Right?
or the program will be installed wrong and will never work. So why the Games working and also Android still working after installing few games and he crash leater? data.img compromised?
I will be glad if someone will have an answare for that.
Marvlesz said:
I am also wondering why you didn't have so many replies.
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That is a good question, for 1000 dollars! Some how maybe I am not nice?
probably is my attitude, or my picture in avatar?
What do you think? am I so bad?
:laugh:
ohh, right! now I know, It's because I do not use my brain! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.................. I am vary bad!
Since you are running sd builds(you didn't tell me anything about that) it's you card problem. Try deleting everything from .android secure(you're now losing apps from previous rom) because I think that the new rom is trying to overwrite the old one. I was using sd build but this problem is totally unfamiliar with me.
Anyway, install android on your HD2 on NAND, strongly recommended, or native sd since you mentioned that you have class 10 sd card.
I can give you a great tutorial that I've found on youtube if you want, or search the xda, there are a few good ones.
Shaumaaa said:
Since you are running sd builds(you didn't tell me anything about that) it's you card problem. Try deleting everything from .android secure(you're now losing apps from previous rom) because I think that the new rom is trying to overwrite the old one. I was using sd build but this problem is totally unfamiliar with me.
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Sorry, I don't know how to define all the Android build so I get confused. Now I should know, SD Builds are the OS like mine on sd fat32, Native SD are the OS on partition ext4 and they can be installed with MALGRD, ok, and NAND are flashed on ROM. Too many thing for me to learn and also my english is not so good.
Shaumaaa said:
Anyway, install android on your HD2 on NAND, strongly recommended, or native sd since you mentioned that you have class 10 sd card.
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I can't on NAND, I have to have Windows Mobile 6.5 because I have full Unlocked TomTom and few app which working fine, Windows Mobile also working well, (just forget bluetooth) and if the SD Build will continue to give me problem with the NEW Samsung microSD class 10 I will probably install Native SD for sure, I hope it will be stable and fast without problems.
Shaumaaa said:
I can give you a great tutorial that I've found on youtube if you want, or search the xda, there are a few good ones.
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Thanks, when the sd come I will let you know, I will be glad if you can help me in some way or send me the tutorial to install Android. Cheers.
you can try a different build, your version is old anyway .
Marvlesz said:
you can try a different build, your version is old anyway .
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old phone, old version, no big deal but that not mean the build have do not work, right?
BTW I like this build but some how I got this problem from no where.
eclyptos said:
old phone, old version, no big deal but that not mean the build have do not work, right?
BTW I like this build but some how I got this problem from no where.
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Well, I have provided all the information that may be related to fixing your problem.
Now, I think you have to either change your rom, wait for other answers or just live with it.
Marvlesz said:
Well, I have provided all the information that may be related to fixing your problem.
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Thanks, i already click on Thanks for you.
Marvlesz said:
Now, I think you have to either change your rom, wait for other answers
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Probably.
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or just live with it.
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No way, I hope you understand , I try to make it work but I alrady paid today for another one HTC HD2 , so 1 I use daily with Windows Mobile 6.5 and the "new" one when comes I try to make it work with Android.
AND, when I finally will understud how to have 2 OS on 1 HD2 perhaps I am happy. :fingers-crossed:
Ok, Guys, problem solved, was the microSD!
Yes, the crap Sandisk Class 10 (28mb/s in Read, 15mb/s in Writing) this time let me down, I changed the sd and the Android do not crash anymore and I can install apps and games also.
The battery life,is not so long but this actually can be resolved too, I will try new Androids anyway to find the best set-ups for me.
Thanks for all the support and and tips.
Hi,
I am ready to doante 100 bucks to the first developer who helps me get a STK (Sim Toolkit) app work on my I9100G.
I am using SlimBean 4.3, and I have flashed at least 7 or 8 Roms for my 9100G: none does support STK.
I need STK in order to use my dual Sim adapter, from Magic-Sim. Dual Sim adapter needs to use the stk.apk located in /system.
I do not want to go back to stock Rom for my region, Africa (which contains STK). I'd really love to use my beautioful SlimBean AND my dual Sim adapter.
Thanks
Chawki
Chawki said:
Hi,
I am ready to doante 100 bucks to the first developer who helps me get a STK (Sim Toolkit) app work on my I9100G.
I am using SlimBean 4.3, and I have flashed at least 7 or 8 Roms for my 9100G: none does support STK.
I need STK in order to use my dual Sim adapter, from Magic-Sim. Dual Sim adapter needs to use the stk.apk located in /system.
I do not want to go back to stock Rom for my region, Africa (which contains STK). I'd really love to use my beautioful SlimBean AND my dual Sim adapter.
Thanks
Chawki
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Well if you're sure that STK works on stock roms, why not give Chameleon a try? It's a really well polished stock-based rom that looks identical to AOSP. May be just what you're looking for
zaki0saad said:
Well if you're sure that STK works on stock roms, why not give Chameleon a try? It's a really well polished stock-based rom that looks identical to AOSP. May be just what you're looking for
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Thanks a lot zaki. I will try chameleon tomorrow. And I will let you know.
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Hey guys.
I just got an Omnia II, and I want to put Android on it. I want to know how they compare, and which release you currently think is the best. These are the ones I'm aware of:
Hungarian O2Droid project (Beta2) http://o2droid.phj.hu/
Frenkiedroid (8.1)
CM6New by Almar & others (v4)
Froyo bundle by ritchietos (v2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066313
Twister 2
Gingerbread CM7 (Alpha2)
The obvious important things to me are stability, functionality, battery life, performance, and future compatibility. Any insights on this would be much appreciated. Thanks!
I followed the instructions to install CM6NEW, but I'm unable to restore the ROM image. Am I doing something wrong?
Two other people here with same problem and no solution yet ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44822320#post44822320
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44864176#post44864176
exekutive said:
I followed the instructions to install CM6NEW, but I'm unable to restore the ROM image. Am I doing something wrong?
Two other people here with same problem and no solution yet ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44822320#post44822320
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44864176#post44864176
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Please use CM6NEW v3 or use "Images for Windows" v2.8.1 or later version for CM6NEW v4
Good Luck...!
brianlai said:
Please use CM6NEW v3 or use "Images for Windows" v2.8.1 or later version for CM6NEW v4
Good Luck...!
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I tried all the CM6NEW image tools: v4, v3, v2, v1 ... they all do the same thing. I also tried all the versions of IFW I could find.
Fixed. It worked on my friend's computer. No idea why.
Some questions about Twister ...
Instructions are for phones with 2GB or 8GB. I think my phone says it has 16GB of internal memory. Should I do anything differently?
Also, does Twister overwrite Windows? What do I do if something goes wrong, or I want to put Windows back on?
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Fixed. It worked on my friend's computer. No idea why.
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I meet same issue before. I guess it may be caused by the busing (32bit / 64bit) issue of your computer...!
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exekutive said:
Some questions about Twister ...
Instructions are for phones with 2GB or 8GB. I think my phone says it has 16GB of internal memory. Should I do anything differently?
Also, does Twister overwrite Windows? What do I do if something goes wrong, or I want to put Windows back on?
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There is no difference on your phone internal memory. But I highly recommend you to install it into your SD card. I have tried to install it into internal memory. However I have made a wrong steps in partitioning such that I crashed the internal memory and cannot be recovered now.
For your second question, Twister will not overwrite your Windows. It will be run under Windows (just like an application running under Windows). Don't worry on it...!
I hope my experience can help...
Thanks for the answers.
Yes that was the difference. My computer runs 32-bit. The one that worked was 64-bit.
I will try putting Twister on a 2GB SD card. The class number is not marked, so I hope it will be fast enough.
Hello everybody!!
Enyone knows where can I find all that software which is mentioned in that topic??
And answer "ask google" won't satisfy me...
I would appreciate any help...
would be kinda neat running other roms and maybe ubuntu
rp201 said:
would be kinda neat running other roms and maybe ubuntu
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Here is a rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-player/orig-development/rom-t2982801
Check this out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.linuxdeploy
Let us know how it works for you.
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Check this out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.linuxdeploy
Let us know how it works for you.
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The LolliRock ROM works great, had it for over a week now. You do need a mouse, and a USB hub allows you to connect other things like an external hard drive and usb sticks.
I think the OP is asking for a multirom solution, not for alternative ROM to flash on the NP ...
I think it is technically possible, but the poor 8GB is a big limit in creating a usable multirom solution ...
That app I suggested is a multirom app. It installs a Linux distro to an SD card.