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Hello,
is it necessary to format the SD Card before installing Android? Or different question: I want still be able to run WinMo on my HTC HD2 Leo and use all my programs I've installed on the SD Card - can I copy all files on the SD-Card to my PC, install Android and copy them back?
Thanks so much!
Android-on-HD2-Newbie-also-known-as-Gromhelm
Gromhelm said:
Hello,
is it necessary to format the SD Card before installing Android? Or different question: I want still be able to run WinMo on my HTC HD2 Leo and use all my programs I've installed on the SD Card - can I copy all files on the SD-Card to my PC, install Android and copy them back?
Thanks so much!
Android-on-HD2-Newbie-also-known-as-Gromhelm
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YES, you can
Gromhelm said:
Hello,
is it necessary to format the SD Card before installing Android? Or different question: I want still be able to run WinMo on my HTC HD2 Leo and use all my programs I've installed on the SD Card - can I copy all files on the SD-Card to my PC, install Android and copy them back?
Thanks so much!
Android-on-HD2-Newbie-also-known-as-Gromhelm
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it isn't necessary to format, tho i have seen a number of posts from people claiming to have corruption & lag issues until they did reformat, so you may want to, just to be safe.
personally ive only done a full format once, just after buying the card almost a year ago & haven't had any problems to date (touch wood)
as for still using winmo & files, you can as long as you're using an SD build
all the best
I have tried both ways and worked fine for me.
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not needed , it is optional.............i have all my winmo related files and 2 android builds running from the same card, never done a format.....working wonderfully well from the start.............ifi t doesnot work, then try format like some people say
Thanks so much!! I tried to copy everything but can't copy one file: XMEMediaLibrary.mlb (some process uses it).
So I will first try to install Android without format.
Gromhelm
Did it and no problems untill now. I am amazed by Android on HD2! Even Layar is working!!
some manufacturer will format their card with SD Association standard because SD Association think they know best about SD Card.
they even say this in http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter:
SD or SDHC memory card file systems formatted with generic operating system formatting software do not comply with official SD memory card requirements and optimum performance may not be experienced.
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what they refuse to admit is everybody has given up hopes to do anything that does not work with old Microsoft standard, long before SD Association was founded in 2000, so everything (phone, camera, mac, linux) will work if you format it with FAT32.
to be safe, after you buy any card, just use Windows to format and you can be sure it will works on any device. just select default file system and default cluster size, or just click restore device default, and you're good to go. it's so easy and you don't have to know anything.
if you wonder why android works only on 32 or 64bit cluster size, it's because that's FAT32 default cluster size depending on your card size. and one day, i predict android will also work on exFAT.
I am currently running CM7 on a 16gb microSD card and recently bought a 32gb card.
What is the best way to move the install to the new card without doing everything from scratch?
I assume it is possible to write an image of the 16gb card, write that image file to the 32gb card and then extend the last partition to use up the remaining free space but how would I do that exactly?
I tried to create the image using Win32DiskImager but the app froze (maybe because I was using Windows7 64bit OS?).
hramosnook said:
I am currently running CM7 on a 16gb microSD card and recently bought a 32gb card.
What is the best way to move the install to the new card without doing everything from scratch?
I assume it is possible to write an image of the 16gb card, write that image file to the 32gb card and then extend the last partition to use up the remaining free space but how would I do that exactly?
I tried to create the image using Win32DiskImager but the app froze (maybe because I was using Windows7 64bit OS?).
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Its not just windows, cuz i have the same setup. You might try a different version of win32DiskImager, and make sure every windows explorer window is closed.
Also ive heard that it becomes less stable (is that the right word???) What happens is that the random read/write speeds become kinda wonky... but its worth a try
I hope this helps
I have been using USB Image Tool to clone my microSD cards.
http://www.alexpage.de/usb-image-tool/
It seems to be more stable than Win32DiskImager.
In order to grow the 16GB partition to fill the new 32GB card I would use Gparted or Parted Magic.
If you have the capability to load 2 sd cards (since my bult in only accepts one card at a time, I use a USB card reader for the second card) I recommend using easus todo bacup software (free) and just copy from one card to the other.
The advantage to this is that you never run into image sizeing problems and you can extend the extra space to full size right in this application.
Hope this helps.
thanks for that...
martian21 said:
I have been using USB Image Tool to clone my microSD cards.
http://www.alexpage.de/usb-image-tool/
It seems to be more stable than Win32DiskImager.
In order to grow the 16GB partition to fill the new 32GB card I would use Gparted or Parted Magic.
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I've just been searching for a good way to clone for backup, and had found that tool (tab to that page open as I write). So thanks for the confirmation that that tool works. I'll give it a shot.
Win32DiskImager doesn't want to work at all - it reads and writes the image up to a max of 4gb. It says it is still reading and writing, but the image file never goes beyond 4gb. (and no, my file system is not fat32 - it is NTFS).
For backup purposes, it would be nice to have a way of making an img file that is compacted, instead of the full size of the card.
Any ideas?
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I have been using USB Image Tool to clone my microSD cards.
http://www.alexpage.de/usb-image-tool/
It seems to be more stable than Win32DiskImager.
In order to grow the 16GB partition to fill the new 32GB card I would use Gparted or Parted Magic.
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That utility is only seeing the fat32 boot partition
how do I backup/restore all partitions?
note: I can only see the boot partition in Windows but I can see all partitions using Ubuntu
legoverse said:
I've just been searching for a good way to clone for backup, and had found that tool (tab to that page open as I write). So thanks for the confirmation that that tool works. I'll give it a shot.
Win32DiskImager doesn't want to work at all - it reads and writes the image up to a max of 4gb. It says it is still reading and writing, but the image file never goes beyond 4gb. (and no, my file system is not fat32 - it is NTFS).
For backup purposes, it would be nice to have a way of making an img file that is compacted, instead of the full size of the card.
Any ideas?
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you need version 0.1 of win32diskmanager..its only version that i could get to work to restore images. I also used it to make a image of my data partition. Hooked up nook to system used nook color tools USB connection wizard. had both boot partition and data partition visible in win7. Then I made an image o the data partition. Not sure if this is best way to do it but it worked.
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I have been using USB Image Tool to clone my microSD cards.
http://www.alexpage.de/usb-image-tool/
It seems to be more stable than Win32DiskImager.
In order to grow the 16GB partition to fill the new 32GB card I would use Gparted or Parted Magic.
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That was a bit of work...
I did use the USB image tool to clone the drive...
...I did have to close windows explorer to write the data to the new drive (unable to access errors)
Once I wrote the image, I attempted to resize it.
Windows wouldn't do it with native apps or a free partition editor...
Gparted wouldn't do it because the file name "CM7 SDCARD" has a space that gives linux a headache.
So I had to load it up on the windows machine to remove the space from the label...it still wouldn't resize the partition, so back to Ubuntu and Gparted.
That time it worked, and then still in Gparted I made the name CM7 SDCARD again.
Nook is happy, I am happy.
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So I had to load it up on the windows machine to remove the space from the label...it still wouldn't resize the partition, so back to Ubuntu and Gparted.
That time it worked, and then still in Gparted I made the name CM7 SDCARD again.
Nook is happy, I am happy.
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Linux rocks...I wish Windows would just go away.
Hello first I want to say a big THANK YOU to everyone that has put time and effort into making the Nookie what it is today....but I have a noob question.
I recently got a 16gb micro SD and can successfully get the 0.6.8 Nookie to run on my nook color, my problems start when I try to "recover" my other 13gb's. Before I get burned and tossed aside I have checked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324&page=92
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883175&highlight=partition&page=103
and about 5 other pages and they all say the same thing..use EASEUS, grab the slide bar and voila. It appears to work but when I install it in the NC it either becomes very unstable or just boots to the NC as if the SD card was not there.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Hello first I want to say a big THANK YOU to everyone that has put time and effort into making the Nookie what it is today....but I have a noob question.
I recently got a 16gb micro SD and can successfully get the 0.6.8 Nookie to run on my nook color, my problems start when I try to "recover" my other 13gb's. Before I get burned and tossed aside I have checked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324&page=92
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883175&highlight=partition&page=103
and about 5 other pages and they all say the same thing..use EASEUS, grab the slide bar and voila. It appears to work but when I install it in the NC it either becomes very unstable or just boots to the NC as if the SD card was not there.
Anyone have any ideas?
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I use Lexar Bootit ....a free utility...to format and flip the bit that says its a removeable drive, then your windows pc drive management can see and format it as full capacity fat32.
Hey thanks for the tip, unfortunately it won't work. I forgot to mention that I followed this tutorial ..... and updated my driver (saved my original Windows just in case) to a hitachi driver and now I can switch my SD memory card forth "removable" to "logical" and back when needed. Once I get it as a logical drive I was EASEUS to increase the size of partition 4 (SD Card)..but again no dice!!!
Seeing that I am a noob I can't post the link to the tutorial but I'll say it worked like a charm and when I want to go back to the original I just need to "roll back" the driver.
Well, a couple of things:
Are you using a Sandisk card? Sandisk class 2 and 4 cards have been found much more stable than most others for running a ROM from SD, and problems with SD installs often go back to the card.
Any particular reason you went with Nookie Froyo? It has pretty much fallen out of use since the NC's stock OS was updated to Froyo in May. If you want an SD install, there's a simpler, size-agnostic method for CM7, which is also a more robust and capable OS and a more advanced version of Android (Gingerbread 2.3.4 rather than Froyo 2.2). I would recommend CM7.1 RC1, or if you're adventurous, Nightly 136.
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Well, a couple of things:
Are you using a Sandisk card? Sandisk class 2 and 4 cards have been found much more stable than most others for running a ROM from SD, and problems with SD installs often go back to the card.
Any particular reason you went with Nookie Froyo? It has pretty much fallen out of use since the NC's stock OS was updated to Froyo in May. If you want an SD install, there's a simpler, size-agnostic method for CM7, which is also a more robust and capable OS and a more advanced version of Android (Gingerbread 2.3.4 rather than Froyo 2.2). I would recommend CM7.1 RC1, or if you're adventurous, Nightly 136.
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Thanks for the info unfortunately I am using a 16gb PNY, class 4 and at $15 I couldn't pass it up...looks like I should have done some more reading first. Really I have no clue why I am using the Nookie, my wife said said that was the one she wanted. I think she just likes saying "Nookie", but I'll give the CM7 a go and see what trouble I can get into.
thanks again...
Taosaur...I was able to get the CM7 mod up and running in no time flat. Now the wife wants me to see if I can get bluetooth working.
You said "I was able to get the CM7 mod up and running ...." so I assume you got your problem fixed. That's good.
About bluetooth.
1. Turn off Wifi
2. Power off NC
3. Power on NC
4. Turn on bluetooth
5. Turn on wifi
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You said "I was able to get the CM7 mod up and running ...." so I assume you got your problem fixed. That's good.
About bluetooth.
1. Turn off Wifi
2. Power off NC
3. Power on NC
4. Turn on bluetooth
5. Turn on wifi
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Yep, I had to do the above the first time I turned on bluetooth, but haven't had any trouble toggling it on and off since then. Just open notifications (that broken-circle-and-arrow button on the status bar) and you have toggles there for Wifi, bluetooth, and a couple other things.
@ Taosaur,
I've seen your signature indicate you are running nb136, any change or improvement (both slightly and/or significant) over the previous ones?
Jeep_Lover said:
Thanks for the info unfortunately I am using a 16gb PNY, class 4 and at $15 I couldn't pass it up...looks like I should have done some more reading first. Really I have no clue why I am using the Nookie, my wife said said that was the one she wanted. I think she just likes saying "Nookie", but I'll give the CM7 a go and see what trouble I can get into.
thanks again...
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Damn! My wife never says "nookie".
votinh said:
@ Taosaur,
I've seen your signature indicate you are running nb136, any change or improvement (both slightly and/or significant) over the previous ones?
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I haven't done much but read and browse a little since I flashed it, but I haven't noticed any difference from 7.1 RC1, which wasn't really any different from Nightly 102 I had before that. I mostly just flashed this time for the integrated OC/Tweaks kernel, without the video/lag problems that were reported in 132-134.
Thanks for an update, m8
maybe someone can help me, i'm about to loose my mind here trying to figure this out. i'm using a Sandisk class 4 16gb card running CM7 with the OC kernal.Did all of this using the size agnostic install method. everything is working fine but i can't for the life of me figure out how to access the rest of the space on my SD, when i insert the sd card into my PC it just shows up as the 115mb partition. i've tried using EASeus, the lexar bootit, and some other partition tool with no luck. with Easeus i select the 13gb FAT32 partition and make it active and thats it right? does it need to be logical? and which partition am i resizing?
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maybe someone can help me, i'm about to loose my mind here trying to figure this out. i'm using a Sandisk class 4 16gb card running CM7 with the OC kernal.Did all of this using the size agnostic install method. everything is working fine but i can't for the life of me figure out how to access the rest of the space on my SD, when i insert the sd card into my PC it just shows up as the 115mb partition. i've tried using EASeus, the lexar bootit, and some other partition tool with no luck. with Easeus i select the 13gb FAT32 partition and make it active and thats it right? does it need to be logical? and which partition am i resizing?
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None of the above. Windows will only recognize the first partition on a SD card, and when you make a SD bootable, that first partition will be the boot partition. To access the larger storage partition, connect your NC with CM7 running to the PC over USB. Open notifications on the NC, tap through "USB connected" to the USB screen, and "Turn on USB storage." Windows will now detect two storage drives, NookColor (the system partition, where apps install) and SDcard (the large storage partition).
The only time you'll want to remove the card from the NC and plug it into your PC is when you want to put on a new cm...zip update file to flash a new ROM.
I used the size agnostic install method with a 16gb PNY calss 4 SD and after all the steps were completed I was showing 13.8gb free for my SD card when I looked at in on the NC. Not believing my eyes I pulled it out and looked at it with EASUS and it showed partition 4 as 13.8gb (utilizing all the cards remaining space). I then downloaded a few things and added a few books for my wife and the space shrank to 13.4gb. As stated above your computer wont show it.
In short have you looked on the NC under "Storage" (I think that is were I found it) and verified you don't have the full capacity already?
Also there is another method I needed to use when I was messing with an earlier version (Nookie) that allowed me to see an SD card as a "Local Device" so windows would let me see all partitions on the hard drive. I can't post a link until I have more posts but email me and I can send you the link if interested.
Taosaur said:
None of the above. Windows will only recognize the first partition on a SD card, and when you make a SD bootable, that first partition will be the boot partition. To access the larger storage partition, connect your NC with CM7 running to the PC over USB. Open notifications on the NC, tap through "USB connected" to the USB screen, and "Turn on USB storage." Windows will now detect two storage drives, NookColor (the system partition, where apps install) and SDcard (the large storage partition).
The only time you'll want to remove the card from the NC and plug it into your PC is when you want to put on a new cm...zip update file to flash a new ROM.
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thanks, well that got me some where. i connected nook to PC, turn on storage mode and it shows E/F drive. click either one and it says "Please insert disk into removable disk E/F" so then i turn off debugging and the nook color internal memory pops up as drive F, while clicking on drive E gives me the same error as above. any ideas? btw i'm on Windows 7 64bit, do i need any kind of special drivers or anything?
It is because windows will only allow you to manipulate the first partition on an SD card...even if it "sees" the other partition as another card it will not do anything with it. EASEUS will show you all the partitions on the SD.
The only way I got Windows to see all the partitions and do anything with them was to change my driver via the "Hitachi fix" If you google Hitachi driver SD card you will find it. I used this site and even though it is long it did exactly as advertised and now I install this driver when I need to format just the partition of an SD card and then "roll back" the driver when I'm done. It tricks windows into thinking it is a local device instead of removable. www/1src/com\forums\showthread.php?t=133718
change / to .
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I can't post a link as I'm still a noob...
Jeep_Lover said:
It is because windows will only allow you to manipulate the first partition on an SD card...even if it "sees" the other partition as another card it will not do anything with it. EASEUS will show you all the partitions on the SD.
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S/he really doesn't need Windows to do anything with those other partitions--I suspect messing with them was where s/he went wrong in the first place.
Dr. Light said:
thanks, well that got me some where. i connected nook to PC, turn on storage mode and it shows E/F drive. click either one and it says "Please insert disk into removable disk E/F" so then i turn off debugging and the nook color internal memory pops up as drive F, while clicking on drive E gives me the same error as above. any ideas? btw i'm on Windows 7 64bit, do i need any kind of special drivers or anything?
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I suggest you start over, because you probably damaged your install when you were messing with the partitions earlier. I'm also using Win7x64, and no, I didn't need any special drivers. Delete all partitions except "SDcard" in EASEUS, expand that partition to the whole card, then write verygreen's image to the card again and re-install. At that point, you should be able to access storage over USB from CM7 without turning off debugging or taking any other special steps other than "Turn on USB storage."
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S/he really doesn't need Windows to do anything with those other partitions--I suspect messing with them was where s/he went wrong in the first place.
I suggest you start over, because you probably damaged your install when you were messing with the partitions earlier. I'm also using Win7x64, and no, I didn't need any special drivers. Delete all partitions except "SDcard" in EASEUS, expand that partition to the whole card, then write verygreen's image to the card again and re-install. At that point, you should be able to access storage over USB from CM7 without turning off debugging or taking any other special steps other than "Turn on USB storage."
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alright i'll give it a shot when i get home from work. is the verygreen image the same one found in the CM7 size agnostic SD thread?
"http://crimea.edu/~green/nook/generic-sdcard-v1.3.img.gz"
and when i delete all partitions except for "SDCARD" do i need to make that partition logical or active or anything?
again thanks for your help.
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alright i'll give it a shot when i get home from work. is the verygreen image the same one found in the CM7 size agnostic SD thread?
"http://crimea.edu/~green/nook/generic-sdcard-v1.3.img.gz"
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Yep, verygreen is the author of that thread and image.
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and when i delete all partitions except for "SDCARD" do i need to make that partition logical or active or anything?
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No, in fact you might be able to write the image without messing around in EASEUS at all--I'm just not sure if WinImage (or whatever) would write to the whole card or just one partition. I know if you tried to format it, Windows would only format the boot partition.
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I jusr got my HD2 today, and just to see if I could get it to run something else than WM6.5, I installed WP7.8 and it worked great. But only thing was that my NOKIA 128MB SD-Card wouldn't be recognized by WP7.8 as it said that it has been damaged or replaced and I should reset the phone. After removing that SD-card and performing first-boot-configuration I put it back in, but still not recognized. It was recognized in the original WM6.5. Anyway, this isn't really an issue, as I'm going to get a new SD-card soon, so that I can run Android 4.x.x on it.
I have found this MicroSDHC-card: http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-SDC4...F8&qid=1358958006&sr=8-1&keywords=sdc4+16gbsp
I know that it isn't the fastest card, but it will work for me. Is the card compatible with the ICS and JB NAND-ROMS that are available?
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I jusr got my HD2 today, and just to see if I could get it to run something else than WM6.5, I installed WP7.8 and it worked great. But only thing was that my NOKIA 128MB SD-Card wouldn't be recognized by WP7.8 as it said that it has been damaged or replaced and I should reset the phone. After removing that SD-card and performing first-boot-configuration I put it back in, but still not recognized. It was recognized in the original WM6.5. Anyway, this isn't really an issue, as I'm going to get a new SD-card soon, so that I can run Android 4.x.x on it.
I have found this MicroSDHC-card: http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-SDC4...F8&qid=1358958006&sr=8-1&keywords=sdc4+16gbsp
I know that it isn't the fastest card, but it will work for me. Is the card compatible with the ICS and JB NAND-ROMS that are available?
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Yes, it will work. You may wish to consider Sandisk as well - Kingston did not perform all that well in comparison (see sd link in my signature for more info).
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Thanks for your reply. I dont need anything that performs better, but I just need to have something that will work
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Thanks for your reply. I dont need anything that performs better, but I just need to have something that will work
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Put that card on computer and format it to ntfs and after that do a fat 32 format.
I had a 16gb card that failed working on phone and when tried formatting it on pc it wouldn't do it; then I thought lets try ntfs and it fixed it.
Give it a try.
Hey all!
Just was checking out this thread, about resizing the Nook Touch/Glow's partitons. Oh boy, sure sounds great, but I'm on Windows, not Linux, as the commands posted require.
I also found this thread, also about partition resizing, but using Gparted, instead of the command line. Still for Linux, but it can be used by using VMware. Great, but what about the fact that the actual owners of the computer I'm using (my parents, don't ask ) aren't really interested in having VMware on their machine? Not to mention the fact that I don't have a blank CD or USB drive anywhere, so Gparted is out. :/
What I'd love is to have someone put together some code for the Windows command line that does essentially the same thing as the aforementioned Linux code does, or just have a good partition resizing method that doesn't involve VMware or any other external hardware.
Can anyone help me out here?
Thanks,
ThirdLifeNookie
The problem is that windoze on it's own doesn't do the Linux partitions, a couple of apps that do though are Easeus partition manager or not as pretty but still extremely functional and Free is the mini tool partition wizard. I don't understand why you need to do this though, that is really for the new Nook Glolight, not the NST with glolight, we can add an SD card for storage, whereas the new device doesn't have that option. Be very careful with moving and resizing partitions, while it's next to impossible to perma brick this device it doesn't mean it's easy.
OB
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The problem is that windoze on it's own doesn't do the Linux partitions, a couple of apps that do though are Easeus partition manager or not as pretty but still extremely functional and Free is the mini tool partition wizard. I don't understand why you need to do this though, that is really for the new Nook Glowlight, not the NST with glolight, we can add an SD card for storage, whereas the new device doesn't have that option. Be very careful with moving and resizing partitions, while it's next to impossible to perma brick this device it doesn't mean it's easy.
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Ah, good point. I just wanted to make /media a bit bigger, but I do see the fact that I can get a 32gig SD card and never need any of that.
The problem with the memory card is the funding. I ain't made of money, and I only have a 2gig card right now, so I was hoping to give myself a leetle more memory by resizing my partitions. But if it's that risky, then I'll skip it and move on.
Thanks for the tip. I'd give you a post thank, but I've reached my daily limit!