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I just wanted to ask and see if anyone knows. Most the custom roms I end up having issues with apps I run, but they worked fine on stock. So I wanted to go back but keep my root access.
Did you back up your stock ROM?
If you did not, I think someone has the stock kernel as link to one to the threads in the DEV section.ts installed...
Edit 01: I am almost sure, you will lose root when a new OTA gets installed...
1. Back to stock
2. "Pure root" (stock Android with root)
Q.Entity said:
Edit 01: I am almost sure, you will lose root when a new OTA gets installed...
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Yes. Easy to re-root though, at least thus far.
Rooted roms renove ota usually, like Prime.
So, long story short my mum had an iPhone 5, and she wanted a larger phone. The 6 and 6 Plus were way too expensive, so I said to get the Note 4. She loved it, at first. She then started to get more and more angry at it, since TouchWiz crashed often. So I said I'd custom ROM it, after all, I had done the same to my step dad's S5, he's pleased now. BUT, CM12 nightlies aren't exactly stable, and she gets crashing and stuff. Plus, she wants to be able to use her banking app, since it blocks phones with root. It works fine on my OnePlus One with Paranoid Android. Is there any kind of ROM for the Note 4, any PA ROM, any ROM without root? And no, I'm not putting it back on a TouchWiz based ROM.
How can you have a rom without root? You've already rooted it to put a custom rom on it.
Anyways I'm on TeKXodus 5.01 rom right now and its WAY better than stock. Check out his thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-boc4-tekxodus-n4-urv1-4-14-15-note4-t3082085
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So, long story short my mum had an iPhone 5, and she wanted a larger phone. The 6 and 6 Plus were way too expensive, so I said to get the Note 4. She loved it, at first. She then started to get more and more angry at it, since TouchWiz crashed often. So I said I'd custom ROM it, after all, I had done the same to my step dad's S5, he's pleased now. BUT, CM12 nightlies aren't exactly stable, and she gets crashing and stuff. Plus, she wants to be able to use her banking app, since it blocks phones with root. It works fine on my OnePlus One with Paranoid Android. Is there any kind of ROM for the Note 4, any PA ROM, any ROM without root? And no, I'm not putting it back on a TouchWiz based ROM.
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You can install a rom and then simply un-root it afterwards. This gives you custom rom without root
equlizer said:
How can you have a rom without root? You've already rooted it to put a custom rom on it.
Anyways I'm on TeKXodus 5.01 rom right now and its WAY better than stock. Check out his thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-boc4-tekxodus-n4-urv1-4-14-15-note4-t3082085
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Dunno what you mean? PA comes without root...
sefrcoko said:
You can install a rom and then simply un-root it afterwards. This gives you custom rom without root
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How so?
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How so?
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The SuperSu Pro app has a Full Unroot feature in the settings. It might be there in the unpaid version too, although there are likely other ways as well.
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The SuperSu Pro app has a Full Unroot feature in the settings. It might be there in the unpaid version too, although there are likely other ways as well.
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Alright thanks, its just CM nightlies come with built in root and stuff. They aren't exactly stable however. Is there any PA-like ROMs for the Note 4 here?
equlizer said:
How can you have a rom without root? You've already rooted it to put a custom rom on it.
Anyways I'm on TeKXodus 5.01 rom right now and its WAY better than stock. Check out his thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-boc4-tekxodus-n4-urv1-4-14-15-note4-t3082085
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I see this very often, but it isn't true.
you don't need to root for a custom rom.
on most devices (including the note 4) you need a custom recovery and an unlocked bootloader(it's often unlocked out of the box) for a custom rom.
some device(like gen8 archos devices) even allow custom roms with the official recovery thanks to a developer mode, or they don't have a signature check and just let you flash custom roms through an official updating utility(such as the old advent vega which accepted custom roms flashed through nvflash)
I am very excited to see that the new Moto X is about to be rooted soon (apparently). I just want root for Adaway, Xposed, and a few other niceties. I have no wish to put a custom ROM on the Pure.
But I have a few basic questions (sorry if this seems noobish), what happens when Motorola sends updates to the phone? In particular, when it gets updated to Android 6.0 Marshmallow.
- Would I need to unroot, install the update, and then root again?
- Would updating get rid of root, and would I need to wait for a new root procedure to be discovered?
- Is there some risk that I would need to re-install all my apps?
- Anything I need to worry about?
Thanks for info on this!
nibunnoichi said:
I am very excited to see that the new Moto X is about to be rooted soon (apparently). I just want root for Adaway, Xposed, and a few other niceties. I have no wish to put a custom ROM on the Pure.
But I have a few basic questions (sorry if this seems noobish), what happens when Motorola sends updates to the phone? In particular, when it gets updated to Android 6.0 Marshmallow.
- Would I need to unroot, install the update, and then root again?
- Would updating get rid of root, and would I need to wait for a new root procedure to be discovered?
- Is there some risk that I would need to re-install all my apps?
- Anything I need to worry about?
Thanks for info on this!
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Back to stock.
Flash Recovery
Flash SU.
It's an unlocked phone. You never lose root.
Or if you're going the whole hog -flash a custom ROM (stock or AOSP) and wait for the developer to promptly update the package
I assume with some patience updates will get posted here to flash. Stock rooted ROMs are pretty popular I think this will be no different.
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Back to stock.
Flash Recovery
Flash SU.
It's an unlocked phone. You never lose root.
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Your last comment is reassuring. I'm still learning when it comes to rooting; I had my friend root my Galaxy S3 years ago, but I'm gonna try to do it myself this time and learn the details of the process, and all that it entails (possible consequences, etc). Please bear with me.
Based on what I've read online (for example this article), it says OTA updates will break the root, but I can always re-root after the OTA and it's only a minor hassle (for phones with unlocked bootloader). Is that pretty much what you're saying as well?
So once Motorola rolls out the 6.0 Marshmallow update, would I need to re-unlock the bootloader (via this thread ) , and then re-flash recovery, etc?
At any point would I need to worry about losing any data on the phone?
I never seen the point of just rooting for apps and such i always rooted for custom roms but honestly if u want to stay with your stock rom and root it, with every update u need to flash that stock rom again.. Then update... Then reroot as some phone do loose root after updates..
Thats why i flash custom roms even custom stock roms all u gotta do is just flash the rom update and ur set
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I never seen the point of just rooting for apps and such i always rooted for custom roms but honestly if u want to stay with your stock rom and root it, with every update u need to flash that stock rom again.. Then update... Then reroot as some phone do loose root after updates..
Thats why i flash custom roms even custom stock roms all u gotta do is just flash the rom update and ur set
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I actually want motorola's features (Moto display, Moto actions, always-on voice recognition).
Is it possible that there is a flashable version of the stock Motorola rom? So once there is a 6.0 update, instead of OTAing, I can download a flashable version of it and just flash that instead?
StreetkillnHD said:
I never seen the point of just rooting for apps and such i always rooted for custom roms but honestly if u want to stay with your stock rom and root it, with every update u need to flash that stock rom again.. Then update... Then reroot as some phone do loose root after updates..
Thats why i flash custom roms even custom stock roms all u gotta do is just flash the rom update and ur set
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Some apps only work with root (like Batter Battery Stats, xposed). That's a good reason to just root without custom roms.
StreetkillnHD said:
I never seen the point of just rooting for apps and such i always rooted for custom roms but honestly if u want to stay with your stock rom and root it, with every update u need to flash that stock rom again.. Then update... Then reroot as some phone do loose root after updates..
Thats why i flash custom roms even custom stock roms all u gotta do is just flash the rom update and ur set
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The sole reason i root is to install an ad blocker.
emailrob said:
Some apps only work with root (like Batter Battery Stats, xposed). That's a good reason to just root without custom roms.
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Yup, for me Better Battery stats, Titanium Backup, the possibility of putting the back button on the bottom right instead of left, and activating double tap are all reasons to root the stock rom.
cronoc said:
Yup, for me Better Battery stats, Titanium Backup, the possibility of putting the back button on the bottom right instead of left, and activating double tap are all reasons to root the stock rom.
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Double tap is ROM specific isn't it? Or is there an xposed module? Its the one thing I miss from my OnePlus, despite the 'aware' sensors
Much of the stuff you people are trying to accomplish can be done with Nova Launcher. No root needed.
If you flash back to stock.
Remove the custom recovery.
You can now take the OTA.
After you take the OTA.
Re-install TWRP
Flash SU.
I have done it on other unlocked devices.
The point being, an unlocked bootloader allows you to flash/install TWRP whenever you want.
Then you can regain root.
Unlocked bootloader means you can always regain root.
nibunnoichi said:
Your last comment is reassuring. I'm still learning when it comes to rooting; I had my friend root my Galaxy S3 years ago, but I'm gonna try to do it myself this time and learn the details of the process, and all that it entails (possible consequences, etc). Please bear with me.
Based on what I've read online (for example this article), it says OTA updates will break the root, but I can always re-root after the OTA and it's only a minor hassle (for phones with unlocked bootloader). Is that pretty much what you're saying as well?
So once Motorola rolls out the 6.0 Marshmallow update, would I need to re-unlock the bootloader (via this thread ) , and then re-flash recovery, etc?
At any point would I need to worry about losing any data on the phone?
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You'll never loose data (except for the first time you unlock the bootloader) unless you choose to wipe internal storage. So no worries mate.
tech_head said:
If you flash back to stock.
Remove the custom recovery.
You can now take the OTA.
After you take the OTA.
Re-install TWRP
Flash SU.
I have done it on other unlocked devices.
The point being, an unlocked bootloader allows you to flash/install TWRP whenever you want.
Then you can regain root.
Unlocked bootloader means you can always regain root.
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Good to know. I'm curious to know if there's a simpler way to update. Is it possible that there is a flashable version of the stock rom and future stock roms? So once there is a 6.0 update for the Pure, instead of OTAing from Motorola, I can download a flashable version of it and just flash that instead (1-step process)?
emailrob said:
Double tap is ROM specific isn't it? Or is there an xposed module? Its the one thing I miss from my OnePlus, despite the 'aware' sensors
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I honestly don't know. I'm coming from a Cyanogenmod-rom'd phone, so I'm just hoping I'll be able to get back some of these features...
nibunnoichi said:
Good to know. I'm curious to know if there's a simpler way to update. Is it possible that there is a flashable version of the stock rom and future stock roms? So once there is a 6.0 update for the Pure, instead of OTAing from Motorola, I can download a flashable version of it and just flash that instead (1-step process)?
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There might be but if u want simple flash a custom stock rom, im sure they will have a few, its basically stock rom but with tweaks and with a few stuff added. Then feom there just flash the updates for that rom. On my lg g3 i use to use a rom called cloudyg3 rom, it had everything stock rom had but a more tweaked version and such.
tech_head said:
If you flash back to stock.
Remove the custom recovery.
You can now take the OTA.
After you take the OTA.
Re-install TWRP
Flash SU.
I have done it on other unlocked devices.
The point being, an unlocked bootloader allows you to flash/install TWRP whenever you want.
Then you can regain root.
Unlocked bootloader means you can always regain root.
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I opened this thread hoping for a method to prevent taking the 6.0 OTA, because as I understand, from reading the Moto X PE TWRP thread, The only root method for 6.0 is systemless, which I think I want to stay away from, in hopes that 6.0 will get regular root, in the future. I think i would rather stay on LP, while waiting.
My MXPE arrives Thursday! I would like to use it some, before having to root, but I am certain the 6.0 OTA update will be soon to show.
Is there a way to stop the OTA, prior to bootoader unock and root?
Do I just need to unlock/root/flash ROM right away?
I am hesitant, because I'e been away from Moto rooting for a few years. I've been Samsung rooting, with TWRP and SafeStrap.
The stuff I'm reading here, about Minimal ADB, Fast boot folder and using cmd prompt is a bit daunting and I would like more time to continue reading and learning, before doing the deed.
ETA: I just realized that the OTA will come from Motorola, not Verizon. How does the OTA come>
Is there a Moto app, that I can disable, without root?
pizza_pablo said:
I opened this thread hoping for a method to prevent taking the 6.0 OTA, because as I understand, from reading the Moto X PE TWRP thread, The only root method for 6.0 is systemless, which I think I want to stay away from, in hopes that 6.0 will get regular root, in the future. I think i would rather stay on LP, while waiting.
My MXPE arrives Thursday! I would like to use it some, before having to root, but I am certain the 6.0 OTA update will be soon to show.
Is there a way to stop the OTA, prior to bootoader unock and root?
Do I just need to unlock/root/flash ROM right away?
I am hesitant, because I'e been away from Moto rooting for a few years. I've been Samsung rooting, with TWRP and SafeStrap.
The stuff I'm reading here, about Minimal ADB, Fast boot folder and using cmd prompt is a bit daunting and I would like more time to continue reading and learning, before doing the deed.
ETA: I just realized that the OTA will come from Motorola, not Verizon. How does the OTA come>
Is there a Moto app, that I can disable, without root?
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I am going to link to the answer I gave to you here...YMMV of course...:laugh:
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I am going to link to the answer I gave to you here...YMMV of course...:laugh:
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I found it, and replied.
Hi everyone,
I'm tired of Lenovorola's poor update schedule and have decided to flash any of the latest (stable) custom ROM from the threads here. But before I proceed, I have few concerns.
1. This isn't my first time flashing custom ROMs but it is my first time flashing custom ROM on a phone with locked bootloader. So, my understanding is that first I unlock bootloader, flash a custom recovery & then root with Magisk, ultimately flashing a ROM. Is this the correct process?
2. Will I lose the IMEI information at any point in the process? If yes, if there any solution to circumvent it?
3. Can I use all banking apps on custom ROM without any issues?
4. Is there any other downside of doing all this that's not known commonly?
I've been meaning to get out of the "stock" firmware walled garden for a long time and I think it's time. I'd really appreciate any help you can offer in this regard.
P.s: Also suggest any ROM that in your experience is the best.
Thanks in advance!
yourSAS said:
Hi everyone,
I'm tired of Lenovorola's poor update schedule and have decided to flash any of the latest (stable) custom ROM from the threads here. But before I proceed, I have few concerns.
1. This isn't my first time flashing custom ROMs but it is my first time flashing custom ROM on a phone with locked bootloader. So, my understanding is that first I unlock bootloader, flash a custom recovery & then root with Magisk, ultimately flashing a ROM. Is this the correct process?
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For the most part yes, you don't need to root before installing a custom rom.
2. Will I lose the IMEI information at any point in the process? If yes, if there any solution to circumvent it?
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Normally no, it's very rare for IMEI issues.
3. Can I use all banking apps on custom ROM without any issues?
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Depends on the requirements of the banking apps, I've never had any issues with banking apps.
4. Is there any other downside of doing all this that's not known commonly?
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There always some issues with a small % of users and rooting/custom roms.
I've been meaning to get out of the "stock" firmware walled garden for a long time and I think it's time. I'd really appreciate any help you can offer in this regard.
P.s: Also suggest any ROM that in your experience is the best.
Thanks in advance!
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Lineage OS is a good rom to start with, but every rom has it's pros/cons.
I suggest trying a few to see what you like.
First thing after TWRP is installed. Make a backup of your EFS and keep it somewhere safe. Just in case.
Like @Randumb_User said do a backup of the EFS partition (or do a full backup - that's what I would do).
I tried several customs - Nougat and Oreo. In most cases battery life wasn't nearly as good as the StockROM.
If you want to play it safe use one of the TWRP flashable ones. If you want to be up to date I would suggest FrankenROM (best use v12.5, 13 has a minor issue with the recent apps list) - stable, fast, very good battery life (1,5d is no problem).
But hey - it's also a matter of taste ....
yourSAS said:
Hi everyone,
I'm tired of Lenovorola's poor update schedule and have decided to flash any of the latest (stable) custom ROM from the threads here. But before I proceed, I have few concerns.
1. This isn't my first time flashing custom ROMs but it is my first time flashing custom ROM on a phone with locked bootloader. So, my understanding is that first I unlock bootloader, flash a custom recovery & then root with Magisk, ultimately flashing a ROM. Is this the correct process?
2. Will I lose the IMEI information at any point in the process? If yes, if there any solution to circumvent it?
3. Can I use all banking apps on custom ROM without any issues?
4. Is there any other downside of doing all this that's not known commonly?
I've been meaning to get out of the "stock" firmware walled garden for a long time and I think it's time. I'd really appreciate any help you can offer in this regard.
P.s: Also suggest any ROM that in your experience is the best.
Thanks in advance!
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Looks like I get to answer my own queries.(I've flashed custom ROM)
1. Yes, the process is indeed the same, except you'll have to flash no-verity patch first in recovery before doing anything else.
2. No (at least, in my case)
3. Most of them work (if they don't, use Magisk hide). The only exception so far is Tez, which doesn't work.
4. Nothing that really matters. Custom ROM will offer mostly stable experience and some minor hiccups
I've tried only Xtended ROM so far and mentioned feedback on its thread.
I'll update on this thread if I've anything to add
Update: You'll get to use modded Google Camera with Oreo based ROMs/stock firmware with root - which makes a HUGE difference in photo quality. So, totally worth unlocking the phone.
Read in another thread (think it was baout CarbonROM) that TEZ works when you login/authenticate or what ever before you install Magisk.
TGHH said:
Read in another thread (think it was baout CarbonROM) that TEZ works when you login/authenticate or what ever before you install Magisk.
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I've uninstalled Magisk and tried but it's not working :/
yourSAS said:
I've uninstalled Magisk and tried but it's not working :/
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Not sure if uninstall Magisk is enough. Maybe you need to verify TEZ right after flashing and then install Magisk. Maybe contact the member who posted the work around in the post I linked. Good luck!
yourSAS said:
Looks like I get to answer my own queries.(I've flashed custom ROM)
1. Yes, the process is indeed the same, except you'll have to flash no-verity patch first in recovery before doing anything else.
2. No (at least, in my case)
3. Most of them work (if they don't, use Magisk hide). The only exception so far is Tez, which doesn't work.
4. Nothing that really matters. Custom ROM will offer mostly stable experience and some minor hiccups
I've tried only Xtended ROM so far and mentioned feedback on its thread.
I'll update on this thread if I've anything to add
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is your rom pass safetynet?
if its pass try clear data on tez then use magisk hide it will hide root for tez so u can use tez
dhinesh_cool said:
is your rom pass safetynet?
if its pass try clear data on tez then use magisk hide it will hide root for tez so u can use tez
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I've tried this already. Didn't help.
yourSAS said:
I've tried this already. Didn't help.
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You could try enabling magisk hide and then revoke the phone permission for google play services.
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You could try enabling magisk hide and then revoke the phone permission for google play services.
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Thank you. I used this trick (hiding telephony permission) along with all other restrictions like Magisk hide. It worked.
When you go back to stock ROM do not use the fastboot erase modemtest commands because it will erase the imei just those two commands omitted-
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When you go back to stock ROM do not use the fastboot erase modemtest commands because it will erase the imei just those two commands omitted-
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I don't know if I'll be going back to stock ROM because Oreo ROM is that good. Thanks for the heads up though.
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Thank you. I used this trick (hiding telephony permission) along with all other restrictions like Magisk hide. It worked.
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Happy to hear that.
I've seen many posts about people losing their imei and volte with no permanent solution. Should i unlock my bootloader and install custom roms on my g5 plus? It's there any chance i might lose my imei or 4g?
spandy992 said:
I've seen many posts about people losing their imei and volte with no permanent solution. Should i unlock my bootloader and install custom roms on my g5 plus? It's there any chance i might lose my imei or 4g?
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I didn't lose IMEI. I followed the process mentioned in the OP
spandy992 said:
I've seen many posts about people losing their imei and volte with no permanent solution. Should i unlock my bootloader and install custom roms on my g5 plus? It's there any chance i might lose my imei or 4g?
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Backup your efs partition if u lost volte it will help
I'm trying to get this device up to date. Coming out of storage it's on Android 6.0 Security Patch 2/1/2016... TruPureXMM 2.9 Build. Is there a quick and easy way to get this device onto a current ROM?
MARKREIF said:
I'm trying to get this device up to date. Coming out of storage it's on Android 6.0 Security Patch 2/1/2016... TruPureXMM 2.9 Build. Is there a quick and easy way to get this device onto a current ROM?
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Flash one??? You want stock or custom?
Stock please.....
i'll try custom as well....
Assuming you have the XT1575, you can try here. This will bring you up to stock nougat with an OTA out there if you choose to take it.
Just a couple of caveats if you flash nougat: Once you do so it limits the availability of custom roms greatly. As far as I know this is the last available stock flashable images so if you take the OTA, flashing it again could cause issues as it is considered "downgrading". I personally wanted to root so I did not relock my bootloader and froze my phone taking the OTA so I could always flash the full image should anything go wrong.
Thanks..,. Yes I am talking about the XT1575. Can you also point me in the direction of maintaining my current Root status..... While upgrading to what you would consider the best current rooted ROM.
Thanks
MARKREIF said:
Thanks..,. Yes I am talking about the XT1575. Can you also point me in the direction of maintaining my current Root status..... While upgrading to what you would consider the best current rooted ROM.
Thanks
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I personally stick with rooted stock. Mileage varies person to person on custom so I just play it safe.
If you go stock rooted, make sure you pay attention when flashing the stock nougat and do the steps in the post that keeps your bootloader unlocked. After stock ROM is flashed, temp flash TWRP, do a backup, then TWRP again and flash root option of your choice. I personally use Magisk to root so apps pass the SafetyNet checks.
all's well went with ResurrectionRemix staying on 6.0 quite pleased - thanks for your help
MARKREIF said:
all's well went with ResurrectionRemix staying on 6.0 quite pleased - thanks for your help
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RR is a good choice from what I've read. Glad all is well. Enjoy.