So, long story short my mum had an iPhone 5, and she wanted a larger phone. The 6 and 6 Plus were way too expensive, so I said to get the Note 4. She loved it, at first. She then started to get more and more angry at it, since TouchWiz crashed often. So I said I'd custom ROM it, after all, I had done the same to my step dad's S5, he's pleased now. BUT, CM12 nightlies aren't exactly stable, and she gets crashing and stuff. Plus, she wants to be able to use her banking app, since it blocks phones with root. It works fine on my OnePlus One with Paranoid Android. Is there any kind of ROM for the Note 4, any PA ROM, any ROM without root? And no, I'm not putting it back on a TouchWiz based ROM.
How can you have a rom without root? You've already rooted it to put a custom rom on it.
Anyways I'm on TeKXodus 5.01 rom right now and its WAY better than stock. Check out his thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-boc4-tekxodus-n4-urv1-4-14-15-note4-t3082085
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So, long story short my mum had an iPhone 5, and she wanted a larger phone. The 6 and 6 Plus were way too expensive, so I said to get the Note 4. She loved it, at first. She then started to get more and more angry at it, since TouchWiz crashed often. So I said I'd custom ROM it, after all, I had done the same to my step dad's S5, he's pleased now. BUT, CM12 nightlies aren't exactly stable, and she gets crashing and stuff. Plus, she wants to be able to use her banking app, since it blocks phones with root. It works fine on my OnePlus One with Paranoid Android. Is there any kind of ROM for the Note 4, any PA ROM, any ROM without root? And no, I'm not putting it back on a TouchWiz based ROM.
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You can install a rom and then simply un-root it afterwards. This gives you custom rom without root
equlizer said:
How can you have a rom without root? You've already rooted it to put a custom rom on it.
Anyways I'm on TeKXodus 5.01 rom right now and its WAY better than stock. Check out his thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-boc4-tekxodus-n4-urv1-4-14-15-note4-t3082085
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Dunno what you mean? PA comes without root...
sefrcoko said:
You can install a rom and then simply un-root it afterwards. This gives you custom rom without root
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How so?
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How so?
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The SuperSu Pro app has a Full Unroot feature in the settings. It might be there in the unpaid version too, although there are likely other ways as well.
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The SuperSu Pro app has a Full Unroot feature in the settings. It might be there in the unpaid version too, although there are likely other ways as well.
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Alright thanks, its just CM nightlies come with built in root and stuff. They aren't exactly stable however. Is there any PA-like ROMs for the Note 4 here?
equlizer said:
How can you have a rom without root? You've already rooted it to put a custom rom on it.
Anyways I'm on TeKXodus 5.01 rom right now and its WAY better than stock. Check out his thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-boc4-tekxodus-n4-urv1-4-14-15-note4-t3082085
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I see this very often, but it isn't true.
you don't need to root for a custom rom.
on most devices (including the note 4) you need a custom recovery and an unlocked bootloader(it's often unlocked out of the box) for a custom rom.
some device(like gen8 archos devices) even allow custom roms with the official recovery thanks to a developer mode, or they don't have a signature check and just let you flash custom roms through an official updating utility(such as the old advent vega which accepted custom roms flashed through nvflash)
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I just wanted to ask and see if anyone knows. Most the custom roms I end up having issues with apps I run, but they worked fine on stock. So I wanted to go back but keep my root access.
Did you back up your stock ROM?
If you did not, I think someone has the stock kernel as link to one to the threads in the DEV section.ts installed...
Edit 01: I am almost sure, you will lose root when a new OTA gets installed...
1. Back to stock
2. "Pure root" (stock Android with root)
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Edit 01: I am almost sure, you will lose root when a new OTA gets installed...
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Yes. Easy to re-root though, at least thus far.
Rooted roms renove ota usually, like Prime.
Hello all,
I just ordered a new Note 10.1 from Costco.com (32 gig) and from reading reviews and such I was thrown into the world of rooting. For my job, we were given iPhones so I've really only had an iPhone and am used to the iOS. Not a fan. Have always wanted to try Android but have never been thrown into it.
Are there any good guides out there to help me better understand rooting, etc.? I understand that you have to unlock it, then flash a custom ROM. What happens when the newer version of that ROM comes out? Do you lose all of your Data? Can any mod be installed on any ROM? I just don't have a good understanding of how or what to do. Granted, I don't even have the tablet yet, however, I don't want to be completely lost when I get it. I do like the idea of rooting, given that you can install powerful apps that are only offered to rooted tablets.
This is my first post here and am hoping for some helpful responses of maybe some threads that I should read to help me understand things better.
Also, where do you find custom ROMS? Is there a certain section you have to go? Or are all the custom ROMS under the ANDROID DEVELOPMENT forum?
Thanks for the help.
Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
midas69 said:
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
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That's good to know. Thank you.
jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
I read in sammobile that samsung will launch Note 8.0, it is true?
What do you think?
rooting
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That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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There's more reasons to root other than just flashing custom ROMs. As a matter of fact, you really don't even have to root to install a custom ROM, you just need a custom recovery installed.
Personally I'm fine with the stock ROM on this tablet even though I run custom ROMs on my phones. I did have a custom ROM installed for a few weeks that was little more than the stock ROM with a few tweaks. It didn't lose any functionality with regards to multi-screen or pen. But some of the other more customized ROMs do lose functionality.
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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no, it leaves the firmware as is and it simply gives you root access, i.e. administrative control over just about all processes that the tablet is capable of. It also allows you to flash custom ROMS. that method, along with the exynos exploit method ( not possible on 4.1.2), leave you as close to stock as possible . and leaves the official recovery. Someone will undoubtedly correct me if I am wrong, but so long as you don't flash a custom ROM, I believe you can still update through OTA. I know you can through KIES. If you do go with a custom ROM, I'm pretty sure you lose all the touch wiz goodies, like multi screen as another noted above. and likely would have to use ODIN or mobile ODIN to update.
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
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Custom apps such as multi window manager. Custom roms if you wish. Overclock cpu with tegrak on stock rooted, it does sometimes come in handy to be safely overclocked. personally this tablet is so good off the shelf you dont NEED a custom rom but that overclock is good. Ability to access and change root files such as dolphin preference in order to make it work with flash player. More reliable backups of apps and data with titanium backup. There are a plethera of reasons for rooting a tablet. But do be cautious.
Don't forget you need root for AdAway. You also need root if you want to play around (very dangerous) with the build.prop file to try to install programs that the Play Store says aren't compatible.
deeselcyde said:
The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
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The 3d cube things I think your talking about are scroll effects, like cube, sphere or card stack. You dont need to be rooted for these, you can just download a launcher (nova, apex, adw) from the play store and change the effects in there.
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jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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One more question about that link. So once I follow the instructions provided in the link to root my Note 10.1, will I still have the custom ROM? And, will I be able to auto update from Samsung or whoever whenever a new version of the Android ROM comes out? I don't necessarily care about having someones custom ROM, I just want the benefits of using the GAPPS that I wouldn't be able to use if I wasn't rooted.
Thanks.
So I just rooted my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with Kingo. All I have installed so far is SuperSu Pro and Titanium backup. Im on android 4.3 and I have the MJE version. (which seems to be the most uncommon because I cant find any help anywhere, so im posting this thread). All I want to know is how or if I even can get the CyanogenMod rom on my phone. This is my first android device ever and I've had it for 5 months and Im definitely never going back to Apple devices. Anyway, I just rooted, I dont care about tripping Knox because I dont have a warranty anyways. I just need someone to explain to me how to get all the things I need including CM. From what ive read I need CWM and GAPPS.
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So I just rooted my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with Kingo. All I have installed so far is SuperSu Pro and Titanium backup. Im on android 4.3 and I have the MJE version. (which seems to be the most uncommon because I cant find any help anywhere, so im posting this thread). All I want to know is how or if I even can get the CyanogenMod rom on my phone. This is my first android device ever and I've had it for 5 months and Im definitely never going back to Apple devices. Anyway, I just rooted, I dont care about tripping Knox because I dont have a warranty anyways. I just need someone to explain to me how to get all the things I need including CM. From what ive read I need CWM and GAPPS.
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Slow down there. Lol. Do you have a developer edition Note 3 or just a regular retail Note 3 you purchased from Verizon?
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Slow down there. Lol. Do you have a developer edition Note 3 or just a regular retail Note 3 you purchased from Verizon?
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Lol sorry Im very new to android. I got it from Verizon but i enabled Developer mode if thats what youre asking haha.
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Lol sorry Im very new to android. I got it from Verizon but i enabled Developer mode if thats what youre asking haha.
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It's all good lol. No, developer mode just gives you some extra features if you want to debug your device. A developer edition Note 3 is a phone that was available directly from Samsung in a small quantity. It had the bootloader unlocked, which is a must for a AOSP ROM such as Cyanogenmod. Cyanogenmod requires a custom kernal, which a retail Note 3 (that you purchase through Verizon or another retail store) can not flash due to the locked bootloader. I would suggest peeking over in the Android Development section to check out the ROMs you are able to flash. Just steer clear of the ones saying for the developer edition or DE (for short). If you're wanting a ROM that has an AOSP feel to it though, check out Eclipse.
Here is a link for the Eclipse thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2620723
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It's all good lol. No, developer mode just gives you some extra features if you want to debug your device. A developer edition Note 3 is a phone that was available directly from Samsung in a small quantity. It had the bootloader unlocked, which is a must for a AOSP ROM such as Cyanogenmod. Cyanogenmod requires a custom kernal, which a retail Note 3 (that you purchase through Verizon or another retail store) can not flash due to the locked bootloader. I would suggest peeking over in the Android Development section to check out the ROMs you are able to flash. Just steer clear of the ones saying for the developer edition or DE (for short). If you're wanting a ROM that has an AOSP feel to it though, check out Eclipse.
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So could I somehow unlock the bootloader??
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So could I somehow unlock the bootloader??
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Many people have looked into that, and no luck so far. It is still locked for devices such as ours. Kind of sucks, I know. Almost every Android phone I've owned, I have ran Cyanogenmod on it. With Verizon being difficult about locking the bootloaders, and Samsung introducing Knox, I don't think we will see a bootloader unlock anytime soon, if ever. With the new 4.4.2 leak that BeansTown106 has made available for us here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
Kernal modules are enabled, so we may have a workaround in the near future for the locked bootloader. I would suggest not taking the OTA for 4.4.2, but instead flashing the leaked 4.4.2 that is available via that thread. Once you take the OTA, it isn't known if you'll ever be able to flash this leak, which may allow for a modified kernal and therefore AOSP ROMs. I may be mistaken in some of the details, and someone can correct me if I have said something wrong in this, but this thread will explain it a little better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876
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Many people have looked into that, and no luck so far. It is still locked for devices such as ours. Kind of sucks, I know. Almost every Android phone I've owned, I have ran Cyanogenmod on it. With Verizon being difficult about locking the bootloaders, and Samsung introducing Knox, I don't think we will see a bootloader unlock anytime soon, if ever. With the new 4.4.2 leak that BeansTown106 has made available for us here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
Kernal modules are enabled, so we may have a workaround in the near future for the locked bootloader. I would suggest not taking the OTA for 4.4.2, but instead flashing the leaked 4.4.2 that is available via that thread. Once you take the OTA, it isn't known if you'll ever be able to flash this leak, which may allow for a modified kernal and therefore AOSP ROMs. I may be mistaken in some of the details, and someone can correct me if I have said something wrong in this, but this thread will explain it a little better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727876
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So back to the beginning haha how do I flash a rom or what should I do since I just rooted and only have supersu haha
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So back to the beginning haha how do I flash a rom or what should I do since I just rooted and only have supersu haha
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It all depends on what you want to do. How knowledgeable are you with rooting, Odin, and flashing in general?
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It all depends on what you want to do. How knowledgeable are you with rooting, Odin, and flashing in general?
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Ive never flashed anything and I dont know how to use odin. Lol
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Ive never flashed anything and I dont know how to use odin. Lol
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Lol. Oh goody. Well you're in for a lot of reading then. If you're already rooted and have supersu installed, then at least you have that part out of the way. The way that we install custom ROMs onto our phones (since the bootloader is locked) is by using Safestrap, developed by Hashcode. You can find any and all information you will need on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Safestrap gives you the ability to have multiple custom ROMs on your phone, without having to flash directly over your stock ROM (if you don't want). It is an application that you download onto your phone, you then open it up and install custom recovery. Once that is completed, you will then see a Safestrap screen everytime you turn on or restart your phone. I would suggest reading through or at least skimming the thread via the link provided above.
Once you have created a ROM slot and have it selected as the active slot, you can then proceed to install a custom ROM into that slot. Once you have everything set up, you can then switch between the custom ROM in "Slot x" to the stock ROM slot, giving you a cushion in case you completely screw up.
You're going to have to decide whether or not you want to stay on the 4.3 base, or update to the 4.4.2 base leak. The only advantages of either one are strictly your personal preference. There are a few that prefer the 4.4.2 base over the 4.3 base due to one reason or another. If you want to update the the newest 4.4.2 base leak though, follow the instructions provided via this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
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Lol. Oh goody. Well you're in for a lot of reading then. If you're already rooted and have supersu installed, then at least you have that part out of the way. The way that we install custom ROMs onto our phones (since the bootloader is locked) is by using Safestrap, developed by Hashcode. You can find any and all information you will need on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
Safestrap gives you the ability to have multiple custom ROMs on your phone, without having to flash directly over your stock ROM (if you don't want). It is an application that you download onto your phone, you then open it up and install custom recovery. Once that is completed, you will then see a Safestrap screen everytime you turn on or restart your phone. I would suggest reading through or at least skimming the thread via the link provided above.
Once you have created a ROM slot and have it selected as the active slot, you can then proceed to install a custom ROM into that slot. Once you have everything set up, you can then switch between the custom ROM in "Slot x" to the stock ROM slot, giving you a cushion in case you completely screw up.
You're going to have to decide whether or not you want to stay on the 4.3 base, or update to the 4.4.2 base leak. The only advantages of either one are strictly your personal preference. There are a few that prefer the 4.4.2 base over the 4.3 base due to one reason or another. If you want to update the the newest 4.4.2 base leak though, follow the instructions provided via this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
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So I am going to install Kitkat by watching the video on the thread. He said something about making sure the "MD5's match". What does that mean?
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So I am going to install Kitkat by watching the video on the thread. He said something about making sure the "MD5's match". What does that mean?
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That, you don't really have to worry about honestly. I never check, though it may be good practice to. Just follow along with the video in the thread and you will be good to go. Just remember that after you install 4.4.2, you cannot flash 4.3 based ROMs. Also, there is a bug in Safestrap right now that renders the ROM slots somewhat useless, though you can attempt to use them at your own risk. If you want to flash one of the 4.4.2 based ROMs afterwards, it is suggested to back up the stock ROM, and flash the custom ROM in the stock ROM slot. All I can say is, goodluck. Lol. It is a fun process, though somewhat difficult at times. If you have anymore questions after the fact, just reply here. I'll help out as much as I can. It always puts a smile on my face to help convert an Apple fanboy/girl over to Android.
Hi guys,
Been reading these forums for the last few hours but still struggling to make my mind up...I would like to know your opinions on the best method of rooting my phone (SM-n9005 on lollipop 5.0) and what ROM and kernal you recommend please? The most important factor for me is stability/lack of bugs but without going back to an earlier version of android. Or would that mean that it would make more sense to keep the stock ROM/kernal?
I apologise in advance for any stupid questions as I am pretty new to this but very eager to tinker!
Thanks!
my choice!
Darren653 said:
Hi guys,
Been reading these forums for the last few hours but still struggling to make my mind up...I would like to know your opinions on the best method of rooting my phone (SM-n9005 on lollipop 5.0) and what ROM and kernal you recommend please? The most important factor for me is stability/lack of bugs but without going back to an earlier version of android. Or would that mean that it would make more sense to keep the stock ROM/kernal?
I apologise in advance for any stupid questions as I am pretty new to this but very eager to tinker!
Thanks!
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* Root via CF Auto Root
* Flash AryaMod ROM (via TWRP)
* Flash Lean Kernel 6.3 (via TWRP)
Well my choice for rooting is simple. Install a custom recovery (TWRP), then flash the SuperSU zip from there, done.
My preferred custom ROM (for you) would be Arya, cause it comes with lots of features, and it's based on stock Samsung TW ROM, so its stable as hell.
Kernel? Well I am sorry to say I can't say that, probably Audax? I am on Stock at this moment, and all I know if I move to a custom kernel it will be Audax at this moment, cause honestly I don't see any reason to use any other kernel other than that. I prefer a kernel for its additional features, and those aren't available then I don't see any point of using a custom kernel
ithehappy said:
Well my choice for rooting is simple. Install a custom recovery (TWRP), then flash the SuperSU zip from there, done.
My preferred custom ROM (for you) would be Arya, cause it comes with lots of features, and it's based on stock Samsung TW ROM, so its stable as hell.
Kernel? Well I am sorry to say I can't say that, probably Audax? I am on Stock at this moment, and all I know if I move to a custom kernel it will be Audax at this moment, cause honestly I don't see any reason to use any other kernel other than that. I prefer a kernel for its additional features, and those aren't available then I don't see any point of using a custom kernel
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Thanks a lot for the help! By the sounds of it then, i will definitely go with the Arya ROM...I'm assuming this and Aryamod are the same thing? Also, will this offer many more advantages as the stock ROM and will it be as stable? The main reason i have decided to root my phone is to get more out of apps requiring root and to get rid of bloatware.
With regards to the kernal, i guess being a novice, all i understand is that they can improve battery performance and phone performance so i would like to go for one fitting this. Unless i have missed the idea completely lol
Thanks again mate
Darren653 said:
Thanks a lot for the help! By the sounds of it then, i will definitely go with the Arya ROM...I'm assuming this and Aryamod are the same thing? Also, will this offer many more advantages as the stock ROM and will it be as stable? The main reason i have decided to root my phone is to get more out of apps requiring root and to get rid of bloatware.
With regards to the kernal, i guess being a novice, all i understand is that they can improve battery performance and phone performance so i would like to go for one fitting this. Unless i have missed the idea completely lol
Thanks again mate
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This is Arya mate, http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-aryamod-v1-tw-lollipop-t2990920
Yes, the ROM is damn stable, as stable as stock ROM, I used the ROM for almost two months, and in fact I am downloading it now, getting bored of stock ROM.
Yes, kernel can improve battery life and performance, if you know what to tweak.
ithehappy said:
This is Arya mate, http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-aryamod-v1-tw-lollipop-t2990920
Yes, the ROM is damn stable, as stable as stock ROM, I used the ROM for almost two months, and in fact I am downloading it now, getting bored of stock ROM.
Yes, kernel can improve battery life and performance, if you know what to tweak.
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Thanks a lot! I'm just backing up my phone then I'm going to try to root it and install the ROM tonight! I think i'll leave the custom kernal for a while so I can see how i get on with the stock kernel. At least then i'll hopefully be able to compare once i do flash a new one.
Thanks for being patient
Darren653 said:
Thanks a lot! I'm just backing up my phone then I'm going to try to root it and install the ROM tonight! I think i'll leave the custom kernal for a while so I can see how i get on with the stock kernel. At least then i'll hopefully be able to compare once i do flash a new one.
Thanks for being patient
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Sure mate, we are here to help. Just do a wipe before doing all that, cause without wiping the ROM and all its features might not work and the ROM won't be stable anyway. Wipe everything from TWRP, under Advanced wipe section, except external SD card of course. Take a backup beforehand. Remember, if you do that advanced wipe thing, then you won't have anything on your phone, so better download Arya before doing all that.
ithehappy said:
Sure mate, we are here to help. Just do a wipe before doing all that, cause without wiping the ROM and all its features might not work and the ROM won't be stable anyway. Wipe everything from TWRP, under Advanced wipe section, except external SD card of course. Take a backup beforehand. Remember, if you do that advanced wipe thing, then you won't have anything on your phone, so better download Arya before doing all that.
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I've managed to root it without any problems so I'm well chuffed
I decided to get the hang of titanium backup and TWRP backup before i start messing about too much with custom ROMS. Which for me, is a very sensible decision
I've been looking at the Arya rom which like you said, seems amazingly stable now, and the Darklord N5 or S6 port, which apparently is stable now too. Do you have any experience with the Darklord N5 or S6 ROMs? How do these compare to the Arya? Lastly, now that I've rooted it, is there much to gain from a custom ROM as it seems that you can get many different apps to customise different things whilst keeping the stability of the OEM ROM?
Darren653 said:
I've managed to root it without any problems so I'm well chuffed
I decided to get the hang of titanium backup and TWRP backup before i start messing about too much with custom ROMS. Which for me, is a very sensible decision
I've been looking at the Arya rom which like you said, seems amazingly stable now, and the Darklord N5 or S6 port, which apparently is stable now too. Do you have any experience with the Darklord N5 or S6 ROMs? How do these compare to the Arya? Lastly, now that I've rooted it, is there much to gain from a custom ROM as it seems that you can get many different apps to customise different things whilst keeping the stability of the OEM ROM?
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Unfortunately I don't posses any idea about those ROMs mate. As much as I would like to respect and admire those developers (you have no idea how hard it is to do even a simple mod, let alone a full ROM like that), at the same time I will have to say almost all the ported ROMs have some sort of issues, be it S6 or Note 5 or Note 4, yes, they might be negligible to some, but I want my phone to be performing as stable as possible. And as Arya is based on Stock Note 3 firmware there is no chance of any instability. But if you find Darklord Note 5 port stable and don't encounter any problem then use it, by all means. Heck if Samsung doesn't release 5.1.1 i next couple of months then I too obviously will that route, but for now 5.0 is okay enough for me.
And yes, with a custom ROM you can do a lot of things as you have already experienced. You rooted it to install the custom ROM, and then there are the ROM features which need root, so yes, custom all the way. This is coming from a stock ROM lover by the way, but as I said before, Arya is as stable as a stock ROM, and comes with some really handy features additionally, so its a simple decision for me
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Unfortunately I don't posses any idea about those ROMs mate. As much as I would like to respect and admire those developers (you have no idea how hard it is to do even a simple mod, let alone a full ROM like that), at the same time I will have to say almost all the ported ROMs have some sort of issues, be it S6 or Note 5 or Note 4, yes, they might be negligible to some, but I want my phone to be performing as stable as possible. And as Arya is based on Stock Note 3 firmware there is no chance of any instability. But if you find Darklord Note 5 port stable and don't encounter any problem then use it, by all means. Heck if Samsung doesn't release 5.1.1 i next couple of months then I too obviously will that route, but for now 5.0 is okay enough for me.
And yes, with a custom ROM you can do a lot of things as you have already experienced. You rooted it to install the custom ROM, and then there are the ROM features which need root, so yes, custom all the way. This is coming from a stock ROM lover by the way, but as I said before, Arya is as stable as a stock ROM, and comes with some really handy features additionally, so its a simple decision for me
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That sounds like good advice mate. Thanks for all of your help!
Hey everyone, so I am pretty new to the whole android scene and had a couple of questions.
Do you prefer to use stock w/Xposed or a custom rom? And what are your reasons for doing so?
Also, I had a OPO before and had it rooted and had Blisspop installed. One thing that I really liked was the fact that I could install the nightly updates from the Rom settings, and it did not affect my root status at all. Are there any decent ROM's that can do the same thing for the Nexus 6p?
Thanks for the time and sorry if these are dumb questions!
Mountainmohawk said:
Hey everyone, so I am pretty new to the whole android scene and had a couple of questions.
Do you prefer to use stock w/Xposed or a custom rom? And what are your reasons for doing so?
Also, I had a OPO before and had it rooted and had Blisspop installed. One thing that I really liked was the fact that I could install the nightly updates from the Rom settings, and it did not affect my root status at all. Are there any decent ROM's that can do the same thing for the Nexus 6p?
Thanks for the time and sorry if these are dumb questions!
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Your custom ROM had root included.; standard feature in every custom ROM. But that doesn't matter anymore, since SuperSU 2.60+ doesn't write to /system.
Stock ROM, franco kernel, Xposed for me. Because I can.
You can install a custom ROM of choice and xposed. Just be careful not to enable any modules or settings that conflict with your custom ROM. If you have any problems you can always flash xposed uninstaller in twrp and try again. This way you can have the best of both worlds. I'm currently running pure nexus with elemental x kernal as well as xposed.
Does pure nexus allow you to install updates through the settings without having to manually flash a new image?
As of now I'm running stock with Xposed. Stock has just been so damn smooth, fast and stable I feel no need for a custom ROM. Plus Xposed takes care of all the little tweaks/mods that make the phone look unique/custom to my liking.
Most of the custom ROMs we have are just the stock ROM with some features added, so what you really need to ask yourself is whether you want features built in to the ROM, or whether you want to lose some of the ART opportunities by using Xposed.
Heisenberg said:
Most of the custom ROMs we have are just the stock ROM with some features added, so what you really need to ask yourself is whether you want features built in to the ROM, or whether you want to lose some of the ART opportunities by using Xposed.
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What exactly do you mean by losing some of the ART opportunities by using xposed? Is there a downside to it?
Mountainmohawk said:
Does pure nexus allow you to install updates through the settings without having to manually flash a new image?
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With pure nexus you have to download a new update and flash in twrp. So far I've been able to dirty flash all updates except the 6.01 upgrade. It only takes a couple minutes to do.
Mountainmohawk said:
What exactly do you mean by losing some of the ART opportunities by using xposed? Is there a downside to it?
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When Xposed first came around it would only work on the Dalvik runtime. When Android switched to the ART runtime with Lollipop I remember reading that the Xposed devs had to mess a bit with the ART optimisations to get Xposed to work with it. It probably isn't all that noticeable in the real world. But really, most custom ROMs for Nexus phones are based on the stock ROM anyway, they're both derived from the same aosp builds. So the argument that stock is smoother is pure placebo. You can choose to have features built into the ROM, or choose to add features yourself via Xposed, the native option seems like a better choice to me.
I'm also on stock + xposed. I thought this would be the most stable, but I seem to get apps crashing at least 10 times per day, ie "App X stopped working. Close or Wait?".
Does anyone else have a similar problem, or would this be addressed if I installed a custom rom?
qwertyuiop89 said:
I'm also on stock + xposed. I thought this would be the most stable, but I seem to get apps crashing at least 10 times per day, ie "App X stopped working. Close or Wait?".
Does anyone else have a similar problem, or would this be addressed if I installed a custom rom?
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I'd certainly try a custom ROM, you won't know until you try unfortunately.