I know folks miss the note 21 ultra,
Samsung will annouce its S22 ULTRA, SOON
Will you upgrade, and why>?
I'm fiercely debating with myself whether to or not. My deciding factor will be SOT {battery life.)
Every flagship android device at this point (not just Samsung) is starting to lose its identity trying to be the next iPhone. It's not working out for them IMHO. They've eliminated the headphone jack, IR blaster, SD card and now can't even bother to include a charger in the box. The prices have crept up to iPhonesque level on top of this.
But the biggest concern I have is how mainstream flagship android devices' battery life (SOT) have been left behind by Apple's Pro Max flagship series. I'm seeing comparison battery life videos and reviews everywhere where said flagship devices are being dumbed down and compared to just the pro model instead. That's how bad it is. People are getting legit 3-4 days of SOT with the 13 Pro Max and no one here can the say the same for their android/ galaxy devices unless they're rocking the bottom of the mill set like the Motorola G Power..
I wish more people would focus on this and bring it to their attention. As much as I despise Apple, I grudgingly admit that they have pretty much caught up with hardware specs matching their excellent software and now exceeded beyond that. They have class leading camera and video quality and now added out of this world battery life on top of this. If that hideous notch finally goes away as its been rumored with the 14 pro max, I don't see any reason not to finally go to the dark side...
I love my N20 Ultra (everything except the SOT) and use the S-Pen quite a bit so I'll look at the S22 Ultra and its rumored 5000mAh battery performance once its released. I'm not holding my breath though so once the S22 Ultra is released- unless a crazily unbelievable trade in deal valuation isn't offered by Samsung for my Note, this will be my last one.
dj24 said:
I'm fiercely debating with myself whether to or not. My deciding factor will be SOT {battery life.)
Every flagship android device at this point (not just Samsung) is starting to lose its identity trying to be the next iPhone. It's not working out for them IMHO. They've eliminated the headphone jack, IR blaster, SD card and now can't even bother to include a charger in the box. The prices have crept up to iPhonesque level on top of this.
But the biggest concern I have is how mainstream flagship android devices' battery life (SOT) have been left behind by Apple's Pro Max flagship series. I'm seeing comparison battery life videos and reviews everywhere where said flagship devices are being dumbed down and compared to just the pro model instead. That's how bad it is. People are getting legit 3-4 days of SOT with the 13 Pro Max and no one here can the say the same for their android/ galaxy devices unless they're rocking the bottom of the mill set like the Motorola G Power..
I wish more people would focus on this and bring it to their attention. As much as I despise Apple, I grudgingly admit that they have pretty much caught up with hardware specs matching their excellent software and now exceeded beyond that. They have class leading camera and video quality and now added out of this world battery life on top of this. If that hideous notch finally goes away as its been rumored with the 14 pro max, I don't see any reason not to finally go to the dark side...
I love my N20 Ultra (everything except the SOT) and use the S-Pen quite a bit so I'll look at the S22 Ultra and its rumored 5000mAh battery performance once its released. I'm not holding my breath though so once the S22 Ultra is released- unless a crazily unbelievable trade in deal valuation isn't offered by Samsung for my Note, this will be my last one.
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great reply, man!
We have no idea about the new processor yet
The iPhone a15 processor is a beast in both performace and battery management.
I just got my Note 20 ultra 5G last month and I wont upgrade for a long time. S22 does not bring much of an upgrade, and money does not grow on trees for me
I also have no interest in iPhones at all.
dj24 said:
I'm fiercely debating with myself whether to or not. My deciding factor will be SOT {battery life.)
Every flagship android device at this point (not just Samsung) is starting to lose its identity trying to be the next iPhone. It's not working out for them IMHO. They've eliminated the headphone jack, IR blaster, SD card and now can't even bother to include a charger in the box. The prices have crept up to iPhonesque level on top of this.
But the biggest concern I have is how mainstream flagship android devices' battery life (SOT) have been left behind by Apple's Pro Max flagship series. I'm seeing comparison battery life videos and reviews everywhere where said flagship devices are being dumbed down and compared to just the pro model instead. That's how bad it is. People are getting legit 3-4 days of SOT with the 13 Pro Max and no one here can the say the same for their android/ galaxy devices unless they're rocking the bottom of the mill set like the Motorola G Power..
I wish more people would focus on this and bring it to their attention. As much as I despise Apple, I grudgingly admit that they have pretty much caught up with hardware specs matching their excellent software and now exceeded beyond that. They have class leading camera and video quality and now added out of this world battery life on top of this. If that hideous notch finally goes away as its been rumored with the 14 pro max, I don't see any reason not to finally go to the dark side...
I love my N20 Ultra (everything except the SOT) and use the S-Pen quite a bit so I'll look at the S22 Ultra and its rumored 5000mAh battery performance once its released. I'm not holding my breath though so once the S22 Ultra is released- unless a crazily unbelievable trade in deal valuation isn't offered by Samsung for my Note, this will be my last one.
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Very good detailed comment. i dont like that Samsung/Android Phones took away IR Blaster and all the good stuff to be like Iphone. i been Always a android person but now seriously thinking about looking else where.... specially if Samsung is really going to take away SD card slot... if they want to take that away they should offer Unlimited cloud storage like google offers with Pixel phones.
Other wise there is no doubt about Iphone's processor being a beast and they are ahead in Camera and SOT.
I'll stay put, my note does everything I ask of it. I don't need 3-4 days battery as every single day I've been alive in my 50 years I've had electricity or means to charge. We've fallen into this cycle that every year or two we need a new phone, thank the carriers for that as is simply not true. I don't need a sports car that can go 200mph, I drive 70-75 as that's what's realistic.
I will go for s22 ultra if there is a sd card slot.
Coming from Asus ROG 3 (and even compared to OP7 Pro}, the battery life of Note 20 ultra is disappointing (I've got the SD variant; heard that Exynos variant battery life is even worse).
5,000 mA battery for S22U sounds better - will await overall device reviews before deciding.
donkeyman1234 said:
I will go for s22 ultra if there is a sd card slot.
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This. Any news regarding SD card slot for s22 ultra?
Suntaina said:
This. Any news regarding SD card slot for s22 ultra?
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A lot of YouTube videos say no sd card slot, but I really hope s22u like note20u with sd card slot.
I'm guessing it'll have hybrid Dual SIM/SD card slot like its predecessors.
Unless I see something that screams "NO" (Which I really don't expect) I fully plan on upgrading.
No SD Card, no buy.
Will decide once we have the concrete specs. But initially I like it. S22Ultra is practically a Note 20Ultra successor. S naming is just for marketing I think.
No sdcard. nope.... i won't make another Note 5 mistake.
I don't think so. The price wil be high (€1249/€1349/€1449) and the front just looks like the Note 20 Ultra, the S22 Ultra is even 0.1" smaller.
Better camera's, Soc and QHD+/120Hz is nice, but for the high price not worth the upgrade.
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For the price that high and no sd card slot, I will still use n20u.
Yup, now that the Note 20 Ultra supports dual sim, I have no need to upgrade. Will be selling my iPhone 12 and Fold 3 now.
I was going to. Spent hours fighting with the Samsung website today. Then I learned that MST is gone. I use Samsung Pay on a lot of old POS machines.
Samsung even pulled the tradeins of the website for a while.
Without MST I have no reason to stick with Samsung. They are just being a pain to deal with.
I just ordered my S22 Ultra. First Galaxy S I've owned since the Note 8 came out. Been Note since then.
My Z Fold 3 is my daily driver, but I keep my N20U around as a backup device on a secondary line. Really wasn't considering trading in, but if you go through Samsung.com and choose TMo, it drops the price of the S22 Ultra 256GB a full $100 cheaper than the other carriers or unlocked. Plus with online activation that knocked off another $50. Trade in for the N20U was $800. It was $600 through everyone else. Brought the price down to $349.
Then I traded in my Galaxy Watch 4 for $120 and used $250 credit toward a Galaxy Watch 4 Classic (I missed that physical bezel). After tax, I'm spending $330 for the S22 Ultra and the Galaxy Watch 4 Classic. Seemed like a no brainer to me.
This is the first carrier branded device I've purchased in a few years, but it'll be paid off and I can unlock it in I believe 45 days. Flash the factory unlocked firmware for a bloat free experience and I'll never know the difference.
I'll actually keep this one a couple years, unless the S23 Ultra does something just totally amazing. Plus I'll be saving up to get the ZF4 if it's a big upgrade over my ZF3.
So TL;DR - If you're a. TMo customer it's a no brainer. It's only $349. Even less if you go direct through TMo and don't mind the bill credits. I didn't want to deal with Bill credits and the $250 samsung store credit made up the difference in my mind.
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Simply put.. I consider the Galaxy S6 too big of a departure from what makes Samsung.. Samsung.
Sealed Batteries and the lack of the Micro-SD Card option (not to mention the styling) has turned one of Samsung's flagships into a Samapplesung device in my eyes..
At least, we now have the distinction of owning what will be the LAST Samsung flagship device that did not conform to Apple's standards.
Because I honestly feel in 6 months, we will see a castrated Samapplesung Note 5 as well..
Am I the only one feeling the party is almost over? and that this will most likely be my last Samsung flagship purchase?
You know what they say, the S series are an insight to what the Note series will be. lol
Say It Ain't So Toe...
mgbotoe said:
You know what they say, the S series are an insight to what the Note series will be. lol
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In this case.. I pray not Toe..
I'll prepare for the worse...
And hope for the best.
RaiderWill said:
Simply put.. I consider the Galaxy S6 too big of a departure from what makes Samsung.. Samsung.
Sealed Batteries and the lack of the Micro-SD Card option (not to mention the styling) has turned one of Samsung's flagships into a Samapplesung device in my eyes..
At least, we now have the distinction of owning what will be the LAST Samsung flagship device that did not conform to Apple's standards.
Because I honestly feel in 6 months, we will see a castrated Samapplesung Note 5 as well..
Am I the only one feeling the party is almost over? and that this will be most likely be my last Samsung flagship purchase?
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You know what they say, the S series are an insight to what the Note series will be. lol
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Its a damn shame. I'm already looking for an alternative manufacturer. I have big hands so the Note 4 feels normal for me. I need to see if LG or HTC have a good alternative. Its a damn shame. They could have at least kept the Micro SD card.
naruto.ninjakid said:
Its a damn shame. I'm already looking for an alternative manufacturer. I have big hands so the Note 4 feels normal for me. I need to see if LG or HTC have a good alternative. Its a damn shame. They could have at least kept the Micro SD card.
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Good to see you here my friend...
Can you believe I still have my LG G-Pad 8.3...
And I've been running the same Mahdi ROM from 5-20-14...
It was his Greatest Version for the G-Pad.. FLAWLESS not one hiccup in over 9 months !
My Note 4 is not going anywhere for some time to come if this is truly Samsung's new direction.. Keep your Note 4 and run FireKat V10 it's the front runner for KK ROM's IMO and just hold your ground.. The Note 4 does the job just fine.
I just don't like Samsung turning into Samapplesung to silence critics on build quality.. Our Note 4's with a touch of metal still feels much more premium than the Note 3 and we STILL have Battery & SD-Card access.
Anyone interested in Samsung Pay will come to the Note 4? That's about the only thing I would like to see from the S6. Google wallet is cool, but if you can use the magnetic card terminal, Samsung is going to trounce Apple Pay and Google Wallet, at least for now.
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Good to see you here my friend...
Can you believe I still have my LG G-Pad 8.3...
And I've been running the same Mahdi ROM from 5-20-14...
It was his Greatest Version for the G-Pad.. FLAWLESS not one hiccup in over 9 months !
My Note 4 is not going anywhere for some time to come if this is truly Samsung's new direction.. Keep your Note 4 and run FireKat V10 it's the front runner for KK ROM's IMO and just hold your ground.. The Note 4 does the job just fine.
I just don't like Samsung turning into Samapplesung to silence critics on build quality.. Our Note 4's with a touch of metal still feels much more premium than the Note 3 and we STILL have Battery & SD-Card access.
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Yeah I'm going to stick with this till the note 6 at least.
I thought they were completely changing the look and feel of touchwiz. It looks pretty much the same. Thats utter garbage,
And samsung had been overhyping the idea of completely re-designing the phone.. to make it look like the iphone 6? I mean seriously? I get the iphone 6 has a beautiful design and I love it too, but out of a million possibilities for designing your phone you chose to copy apple. Thats ridiculous.
On an ending note, I really like my Note 4, the first thing i did was replace touchwiz, but apart from that I really like the device. Unfortunately it looks like it will be one of the last samsung phones I own. Whats even worse is that we are running out of decent alternatives and android on a whole looks to be having a ****ty year in the high end phones market segment.
RaiderWill said:
Simply put.. I consider the Galaxy S6 too big of a departure from what makes Samsung.. Samsung.
Sealed Batteries and the lack of the Micro-SD Card option (not to mention the styling) has turned one of Samsung's flagships into a Samapplesung device in my eyes..
At least, we now have the distinction of owning what will be the LAST Samsung flagship device that did not conform to Apple's standards.
Because I honestly feel in 6 months, we will see a castrated Samapplesung Note 5 as well..
Am I the only one feeling the party is almost over? and that this will be most likely be my last Samsung flagship purchase?
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You know its almost like SanDisk is trolling HTC and Samsung at this point:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/01/sandisk-200gb-microsd-card/
rosedog said:
You know its almost like SanDisk is trolling HTC and Samsung at this point:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/01/sandisk-200gb-microsd-card/
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$400.00?
You can purchase two 128's for $198.00.. more for less =
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$400.00?
You can purchase two 128's for $198.00.. more for less =
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Right now, sure but I don't like swapping cards if I don't have too and this won't be the price forever. The 128gb card came down pretty fast in price iirc. This is also great for tablets and the Surface Pro 3.
Different Strokes...
RaiderWill said:
$400.00?
You can purchase two 128's for $198.00.. more for less =
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rosedog said:
Right now, sure but I don't like swapping cards
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My station in life ill affords me the means to spend upper-middle class cell phone money on just an SD-Card..
So.. from my perspective, even if it came down $100.00 to $300.00.. I would not pull the trigger when I can swap 128's out in what? 60 seconds ?
And heaven forbid *failure* and loss of data by engendering that much trust in one card..
But if it works for you.. your ship has arrived.. :good:
While this phone is average at best, it's probably going to do worst than the S5. Samsung will realize their mistake and bring back the sd slot and removable battery by the time the note 5 comes out. The only reason this phone would be appealing is, IF the new touchwiz was as smooth stock android or htc skin. The only thing samsung had over other android oems was the removable back and sd slot.
It would be stupid for LG to not use this opportunity to destroy the S6 with their G4.
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I thought they were completely changing the look and feel of touchwiz. It looks pretty much the same. Thats utter garbage,
And samsung had been overhyping the idea of completely re-designing the phone.. to make it look like the iphone 6? I mean seriously? I get the iphone 6 has a beautiful design and I love it too, but out of a million possibilities for designing your phone you chose to copy apple. Thats ridiculous.
On an ending note, I really like my Note 4, the first thing i did was replace touchwiz, but apart from that I really like the device. Unfortunately it looks like it will be one of the last samsung phones I own. Whats even worse is that we are running out of decent alternatives and android on a whole looks to be having a ****ty year in the high end phones market segment.
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At this point I’m wondering what’s going on. I wanted Samsung to increase the size of the Note 4 but they didn’t. I can accept that though. But no SD card and removable battery is a deal breaker. The S series always forebodes what will come to the note. I’m not sure why no other manufacturers are going head o head with Samsung. HTC looked like they were with the one max but no one max 2. Hopefully they pull what they did with the S5 waterproof and say again the note targets certain individuals and add the removable battery and SD Card or no more Samsung phones for me. Someone also needs to make some S-Pen alternative as well.
Even the HTC M9 has expandable storage. Why Samsung why??????
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Samsung must be listening to the WRONG customer polls, no one that buys Samsung devices cares that the back is glass, especially if that means they have to lose the removable battery, and the sd card . and everyone uses a darn case anyway
Love the new processor, and I'd imagine the improved memory standard, but none of these improvements are worth losing so many hardware functions :thumbsdown:
I keep reading everywhere how the S design language leaks into the Note that follows... Can someone please explain what from the S5 appeared in the Note 4.. I see 2 very different distinct phones. IMO the Note look, feels, and means business and the S is more of a every person device.
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I keep reading everywhere how the S design language leaks into the Note that follows... Can someone please explain what from the S5 appeared in the Note 4.. I see 2 very different distinct phones. IMO the Note look, feels, and means business and the S is more of a every person device.
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I second that.
Have both S and Note series and been following its upgrades; just becoz of the fact that the S series are released b4 the N series doesn't mean the S models are pilot projects for the N's. They serve for different segments.
Anyways as for the S6, I too am sad for the absence of ext SD card and removable battery cover, but then again maybe (surely) Sammy had done a thorough market research and knows what's best for their interest; xda community's opinion only represents a tiny minority of its users and by no means are used as benchmarks.
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I keep reading everywhere how the S design language leaks into the Note that follows... Can someone please explain what from the S5 appeared in the Note 4.. I see 2 very different distinct phones. IMO the Note look, feels, and means business and the S is more of a every person device.
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We aren't saying the note 4 is a bigger s5...the thing is when samsung does something to a phone, best believe it will pop up in the next line.
Take the finger scanning and the shealth / exercise thing for example. those were introduced in the S serie and behold behold...they popped up on the note
And take the note edge for example...behold behold...the S line has it. The only difference between them is the size but essentially anything you can find in the S serie is on the note serie.
And if its not visually there, it is disabled in the code (their lil multitasking box they came out with on the s5)
The odds of no removable battery / sd card...is well you know, 90% chance of happening lol. I personally thought that will happen on the Note line first (and the glass) because end of the day, the note IS and will ALWAYS be geared towards business people and not regular consumers. And sammy seems to be on their iPhone classy trip right now. There was nothing wrong with the leather back covers...
Looks like the micro SD got left out of Samsung's phone and made its way to HTC's. Next is gonna be the Note 5 with no S-pen and the excuse that no one uses it (hopefully they don't go that direction). They better bring back micro sd for the Note 5 or I won't upgrade.
Hey all
Here is a thread to discuss the general specifications and design of the S6 Edge. Anybody planning on picking one of these up over the standard S6?
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Specifications:
Display - Super AMOLED, 5.1 inches, 1440 x 2560 pixels (~576 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Exynos 7420
CPU - Quad-core 1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 2.1 GHz Cortex-A57
GPU - Mali-T760
RAM - 3 GB
Memory - 32/64/128 GB
Camera - 16 MP, 3456 x 4608 pixels, optical image stabilization, autofocus, LED flash
Secondary Camera - 5 MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, gesture, heart rate
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot, Bluetooth v4.1
Battery - 2600 mAh - Non removable
Dimensions - 142.1 x 70.1 x 7 mm
Weight - 132 g
Color Availability - White Pearl, Black Sapphire, Gold Platinum, Green Emerald
Source: gsmarena
i am interested, but
probably won't buy it because
1- 5.1 inch screen if only it was 5.5
2- 3gb of ram i think it need 4 to compete
3- the camera that stood out of the device too much
4- there is no micro sd
I was interested too, but now that I see that the casing looks about identical to iphone 6 plus. Its mind boggling how a multimillion dollar company cant come up with their own ideas.
abogrhen said:
i am interested, but
probably won't buy it because
1- 5.1 inch screen if only it was 5.5
2- 3gb of ram i think it need 4 to compete
3- the camera that stood out of the device too much
4- there is no micro sd
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1. its a phone not a phablet
2. compete with what?
3. case fixes that
4. 128gb on board storage not enough for you?
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1. its a phone not a phablet
2. compete with what?
3. case fixes that
4. 128gb on board storage not enough for you?
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1. 5.5 does not make it a phablet, I wouldnt call the LG g3 a phablet. I just prefer that size
2. Your right top end phone are coming with only 3gb
3. Your right again, but for some I prefer a nude phone
4. No 128 is not enough anymore.
Not trolling, Just my opinion
1) I would consider 5.5 going into the Phablet area. Not that 5.5 would be bad, I just don't think this phone is trying to compete in that market. I'm sure the new Note will do that.
2) I was expecting 4 as well. All top phones are coming with 3. Just there way of cutting costs and leaving room for the next phone.
3) I PREFER a nude phone... but never do it out of plain fear. it's not even that I'm afraid of dropping it. I'm afraid of things in my pocket scratching it.
4) This is what is making me want to drop Samsung and go to HTC. I can live without a replaceable battery. I mean those portable battery chargers are cheaper than a batter and I have a few. I find it hard to give up the SD slot. @DSA - I agree that 128gb is enough storage for most. Honestly, 64gb is probably enough for me. For me though it's not the size, it's the functionality. Fight now, for every phone I've had, I've just popped out my MicroSD card, put it into the new phone and I was done. All my music, all my pictures, everything was there and ready. What if you drop your phone in water and it dies. I mean, total death, doesn't turn on at all. Before, you pull your MicroSD card out and all your date is still OK. Now, if your phone is dead, your data is gone. Who is backing up 128gigs to the cloud? With the lack of unlimited data, who wants to anyway. I don't want my pictures on the cloud.
So yea, the only killer for me is the SD card. Once again, it's not a size issue, it's just a functionality issue.
Another interesting thing with these phones... has anyone heard anything about a Developers edition coming out?
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I was interested too, but now that I see that the casing looks about identical to iphone 6 plus. Its mind boggling how a multimillion dollar company cant come up with their own ideas.
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Considering the current iPhone generation was "inspired" by HTC's M7/M8 you could easily argue that Apple is having trouble coming up with their own ideas. Sure the double curved edges are utterly useless and diminish the S6's ergonomics but at least the design is unique.
I must say 5.1 " is the minimum i go for. I take the phone in a close look as my extension of contract approaches and i need something new to play. I will wait till i hold it in my hands before i decide. The rounded edges really looking nice on photos.
S6 wateroroof
Every phone I Destroy is because it is not waterproof.
are all of the openings for Water around the edge ? Then some good quality tape may make it waterproof ? comment's Please Roland
Do we know yet if it will have Googles always listening? I know it's not for everyone, but it should be an option.
abogrhen said:
i am interested, but
probably won't buy it because
1- 5.1 inch screen if only it was 5.5
2- 3gb of ram i think it need 4 to compete
3- the camera that stood out of the device too much
4- there is no micro sd
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If you want a 5.5" phone you should be looking at the Note line, this is not a phablet.
How is 3GB not enough? What other phone has more?
The camera has stood out for a while, most people uses cases so it won't be a big deal.
True, but many of us don't need more than 128GB of storage on a phone.
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I was interested too, but now that I see that the casing looks about identical to iphone 6 plus. Its mind boggling how a multimillion dollar company cant come up with their own ideas.
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Only the bottom edge looks like an iPhone 6, what else looks like it?
rroland said:
Every phone I Destroy is because it is not waterproof.
are all of the openings for Water around the edge ? Then some good quality tape may make it waterproof ? comment's Please Roland
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Sounds like you should buy a Casio G'Zone and put it in a Lifeproof case.
geoff5093 said:
If you want a 5.5" phone you should be looking at the Note line, this is not a phablet.
How is 3GB not enough? What other phone has more?
The camera has stood out for a while, most people uses cases so it won't be a big deal.
True, but many of us don't need more than 128GB of storage on a phone.
Only the bottom edge looks like an iPhone 6, what else looks like it?
Sounds like you should buy a Casio G'Zone and put it in a Lifeproof case.
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The whole phone but the button. That's a Samsung in a iPhone.
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The whole phone but the button. That's a Samsung in a iPhone.
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The iPhone doesn't have a glass back, the front doesn't look remotely the same, especially the edge, I think people see the bottom with very similar design that mocks the bands of the iPhone and immediately say the phone copies the iPhone.
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The iPhone doesn't have a glass back, the front doesn't look remotely the same, especially the edge, I think people see the bottom with very similar design that mocks the bands of the iPhone and immediately say the phone copies the iPhone.
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The older phones did. Your in denial if you don't see it. Samsung steals from Apple and Apple steals from Samsung. All these visual casing specs screams iPhone. The bottom half is the iPhone 6+, the glass back is the older iPhone. Lack of expandable SD screams apple. Shall I continue? Samsung sees how apple sells off crap and they are doing the same thing. I see 3 different versions of an IPhone in that pic. The only difference is the name Samsung is on the back. That's it.
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The older phones did. Your in denial if you don't see it. Samsung steals from Apple and Apple steals from Samsung. All these visual casing specs screams iPhone. The bottom half is the iPhone 6+, the glass back is the older iPhone. Lack of expandable SD screams apple. Shall I continue? Samsung sees how apple sells off crap and they are doing the same thing. I see 3 different versions of an IPhone in that pic. The only difference is the name Samsung is on the back. That's it.
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If you consider older phones, like the 4 year old iPhone 4, you are going to find similarities... There are only so many different designs that a rectangular device can have.
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If you consider older phones, like the 4 year old iPhone 4, you are going to find similarities... There are only so many different designs that a rectangular device can have.
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Look everyone it's a samapple. Besides the main button in the front this looks 100% like the Samsung Galaxy 6. The 6 edge has curved edges. So take this same phone and curve the edges u get the op phone. Have a good night
it is enough to me I can't wait
I posted this on another thread but would like to add that the Chinese are going to smoke this phone. The new Lenovo's are just as good looking and better value and Meizu (with a cool $500m+ from Alibaba) will prove it. They already have a phone of similar dimensions and specs with a bigger screen. Here's my original post:
I'm having a hard time understanding what these phones offer for the price. I don't want or need Qhd. 1080p is perfect for me. I've not even looked at the M9 yet but I've read up on the S6. It's a great looking phone but my first problem is the Edge screen itself. How do you protect it? I don't care if it's Gorilla Glass 3 or 4, it will shatter. Simple. Samsung have essentially raised the screen above the bezels, so how do you protect it? The so called functionality of the Edge notifications is 'ho hum' in my opinion. My Nubia Z7 Max has that built into it's user optional split screen function with a standard screen. I love the looks, the new chip technology and many other things about the Edge but I'm simply not going to pay twice as much for 'innovations' that don't really have any advantage over phones that cost half the price.
It's obvious that 99% ranting have no technical background and can't see why Samsung did what they did and how it has set them so far apart from any other phone.
They kept the SD card and removable battery till technology caught up to the point where those 2 are not needed.
Battery = wireless charging + super fast charging when plugged in
SD card = bottleneck that has been removed. Now you can take 3 pictures in RAW format. A single picture is 25 MB. 3 pictures taken in RAW format saved in 1 second = 75mb. Using a SD card you'll be waiting and complaining Samsung software is slow when it is the SD card.
Storage is now super fast while everyone is stuck using last years slow storage.
In house processor that is faster than what is in any other phone.
Camera that out performs the iPhone
RAM that is faster than last years.
You'll be able to do more things at once on the phone without any slow downs.
You'll be able to install programs quicker. Open the camera quicker.
Themes so you don't have to look at the default touchwiz.
Comes with 115gb of cloud storage. Throw your pictures and videos into the cloud them move them to your computer / delete them when your done and have more room on your device.
This device is going to be the phone to be in 2015 and beyond since most companies will be asking Samsung for their products to put in inside their phones just to compete with the S6 and S7.
specs
does anyone have the radio bandwidths for the s6 edge? can't seem to find it anywhere
Hey guys.. I read this article and it makes me excited about The successor or our beloved Togari. Chrck this out..Sony Xperia Z5 release date, price and specs: Coming in September, also in Compact and Ultra models
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/mobile-phone/sony-xperia-z5-release-date-price-specs-3619162/
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Sony's feed app "Socialife"
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sony.nfx.app.sfrc
http://www.gsmarena.com/xperia_z5_tipped_to_launch_in_september-news-12915.php
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Hey guys.. I read this article and it makes me excited about The successor or our beloved Togari. Chrck this out..Sony Xperia Z5 release date, price and specs: Coming in September, also in Compact and Ultra models
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/mobile-phone/sony-xperia-z5-release-date-price-specs-3619162/
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http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sony.nfx.app.sfrc
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Except for the obvious prediction that the next xperia is called z5 the rest of the article is purely speculative with no source (credible or not) mentioned. It more looks like the author just put together a wish list of his own. Honestly I grew tired of getting excited about these baseless prediction just to be disappointed when the actual release date came.
If you think about it logically, except for a very small group of geeks (myself happily included) who admire the engineering marvel that xzu is, most ordinary people ridicule this phone. The reaction I get from other people when they see me with the phone is that it is way too small to be a practical tablet and way too big to be a practical phone. That is why despite its excellent specs it is selling for around 250 dollars these days and no one is rushing to deplete the stocks.
Sony needs to revive its mobile business very badly and has to focus on the smallest number of investments with the highest return. Look at tablet z4 for example which anyone immediately falls in love with. And on the phone front it should follow a two tier premium model that was started by Samsung with the s series and note series, and copied by Apple as iPhone 6 and iPhone 6s plus, which has proved to be a super successful model in the United states and elsewhere. Another ultra phone has no place in such a line up, as sad as it may be for me and others in this forum.
Sorry to disappoint, but the next ultra will most likely have 6" display. the reason for it is obvious: much more pants pocket friendly. no brainer. most people aside of a minority of hardcore mobile geeks/some woman who carry a purse 24/7 who want larger display then 6" will buy a tablet. they want profit in 2016 and they want to rival mpte 5. 6s plus, lg new phablet, etc. and not some negligible chinese tablets with phone capabilities. there is no other way. it is a very good expected and wanted move for sony and all should be happy, including sony fans aside of minority of people who actually use z ultra as daily driver. most people beg sony to make a flag phablet that they actually never made (full flagship spec, more pocket friendly, etc.).
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Sorry to disappoint, but the next ultra will most likely have 6" display. the reason for it is obvious: much more pants pocket friendly. no brainer. most people aside of a minority of hardcore mobile geeks/some woman who carry a purse 24/7 who want larger display then 6" will buy a tablet. they want profit in 2016 and they want to rival mpte 5. 6s plus, lg new phablet, etc. and not some negligible chinese tablets with phone capabilities. there is no other way. it is a very good expected and wanted move for sony and all should be happy, including sony fans aside of minority of people who actually use z ultra as daily driver. most people beg sony to make a flag phablet that they actually never made (full flagship spec, more pocket friendly, etc.).
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I agree. I don't know if its gonna be 6" (personally would prefer 6.2" if we can't have 6.4" again) but it will be smaller. The reason is simple: ZU didn't sell as well as they wanted.
Although I would argue if they do not release similar flagship phones every half a year the ZU would have position itself better to compete directly with the Galaxy Notes. But it seems they're still following the same business model they will blame on the size of the ZU being unpopular among consumers.
Most consumers and sony fans voice is loud and clear: "sony! make a phablet flag, give it the best spec - every feature of what the main size flag has and more, give it some simple software features to make good use of a large display like 2 windows mode, make it as pocket friendly as possible, don't make the display larger then 6", height dimensions should be as short as possible to further make it easier to carry in pants pocket". this is what i hear and read in the last 2 years. imagine such device with the beautiful sexy new design that only sony know to design, 6" JDI/AUO QHD display, 2 front speakers, latest camera sensor imx230, beefy 4000-4500 mAh battery, etc. *day dreaming*
6 inch display? Too small. It will be a tablet for me then. The Z3 TC or a Z5 TC is on my list of potential successors if they just introduce a 6 inch "Ultra".
I use my device for reading, browsing and so forth, which make 6 inch or smaller display inconvenient and a 10 inch tablet too big. Sweetspot is between 6.5-8 inches and devices smaller than 6.44 is not interesting at all, regardless of specifications due to a way too small display making the general use more uncomfortable (increased need for zooming and so on).
I agree. z3tc is definitely a good upgrade from z ultra and its true successor imo. there is no news of sony working on a new tc for 2h so its the best small tablet option. http://www.amazon.com/XPERIA-TABLET...=1437248308&sr=8-1&keywords=z3+tablet+compact
I'm all for phablets, but... 8in is too much even for me to be a phone that I can carry... 7in with no border would be ideal... Make a new ultra already sony...
Meh, I will always stick to at least 6 coll phones since the Z ultra and the only thing I care about is price and micro SD support.
If somone goes the route of samsung and starts to refuse microSD slots, **** them. Everything that is for the mainstream is for retards. Its nothing for a serious person .
The moment a serious Ubuntu phone comes, with decent specs, I would swtich immediately. I am through with these so called "mainstream" phones.
Z5 can't be the 820 if it's in September. Qualcomm roadmap says December for that chip's release.
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Makes no sense to put that kind of $ into a phone at 6"4. 6" is a proven seller.
(unfortunately).
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Letv is bringing this to the US. 6"3 device. High quality build. http://www.geekbuying.com/item/LeTV...beu5t9M_XE_RS1obaybyCOHzHtXbbY8_lkaAqYe8P8HAQ
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Makes no sense to put that kind of $ into a phone at 6"4. 6" is a proven seller.
(unfortunately).
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Letv is bringing this to the US. 6"3 device. High quality build. http://www.geekbuying.com/item/LeTV...beu5t9M_XE_RS1obaybyCOHzHtXbbY8_lkaAqYe8P8HAQ
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I was eyeing this since it was announced but I affraid it does not has the required US lte bands, especially T Mobile.
rockky said:
Makes no sense to put that kind of $ into a phone at 6"4. 6" is a proven seller.
(unfortunately).
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Who said do 6.4 again... ? Evolve and do 6.8 or 7.0...
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I was eyeing this since it was announced but I affraid it does not has the required US lte bands, especially T Mobile.
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Not to mention that it will have ZERO community support, ZERO customer support in case of faults.
I'm hoping and waiting with my finger crossed for September.
I just feel Sony will not disappoint this time.
If the real news is just the 4K screen, with SD810 etc etc, I'll just wait a little bit more until it gets in the hands of various sites/blogs, wait for their impressions.
When I bought the Ultra I went on and read every single hands on, review or article regarding it, and every single one, despite dragging it down on measures (too big to do this, to large to do that etc), every single one was impressed on how much a beast was this phone.
Now this is what I want for the next Ultra. To be a freaking Unicorn. I don't give a s#it if they sell one or one million, I'll be the first in line to get it. [emoji12]
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i hope sony waits for the SD820 in the next Zultra. i will not buy nothing with the SD810. Perhaps we have to wait to new phones with helios X20
Here's my Z5+ Concept
my specs for this concept
5.7" 4K 3840 x 2160 IPS Display
773 Ppi Pixel Density
Corning Gorilla Glass 4
21.5MP Rear Camera 1/2.3" G Lens Dual Tone LED Flash
Hybrid AF
Exmor RS™ Sensor For Image & Video
Full HD Video Recording 1080p + 4K
Front Camera 13MP Exmor RS HDR 1080p With Dual Tone LED Flash
Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 MSM8996
NFC
Dual Front-facing stereo Speakers
Bluetooth v4.1
nanoSIM
Adreno 530
6.1 mm
150 grams
4GB LPDDR4 RAM
Android v5.1.1 Lollipop
Internal 64/128 GB Storage
3600mAh Battery
Waterproof & Dust Tight (IP65/68)
Exposed microUSB port
Fingerprint Scanner + Heart Rate Sensor On The Power Button
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5.7... ? 3600mAh... ? Fail.
6 inches could be fine IF Sony introduce a Z5 Tablet Compact with similar features. I have tried to fit the Z3 TC in my pockets and it works well so a device that size is a working backup plan if it would turn out that the next "Ultra" is a degradation of screen estate.
The next Ultra should have minimum a 6.44 inch display or up to 7 inch in order to qualify as a proper successor. A smaller 6 incher would be too much of a step back since it would require a lot of extra zooming when reading.
It would be great if Sony would make a keyboard flip cover as well and also further development of stylus support where they got on the right track with the "graphite pen" capable Ultra screen.
If the increased size of the device can be used to facilitate proper cooling of a Snapdragon 810, it could be an OK choice but if it turns out that the heating issues from the Z3+ is there, then it would be a huge drawback from the Ultra, which haven't overheated a single time during those two years I had it.
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Why do you think it won't support US LTE?
I'm pretty sure there will be a US variant on this flagship series.
It's been a while since the ZF2 is released.
ZF2 is not a flagship killer. It was never advertising as such. The selling point of the ZF2 is the biggest bang for the buck.
So, why did you buy it? Did the phone impressed you in those aspects?
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It's been a while since the ZF2 is released.
ZF2 is not a flagship killer. It was never advertising as such. The selling point of the ZF2 is the biggest bang for the buck.
So, why did you buy it? Did the phone impressed you in those aspects?
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No I only bought it cause I know and trust Asus as a brand and as far as updates go it's been pretty good
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Bang for the buck, I came from S2 then S4. When the S6 came out at exorbitant contract price and no micro sd slot, I looked around and did the maths. The Zenfone 2 gave me twice the ram and 4 times the storage of my S4, it was faster, gave me the micro sd slot that the S6 lacked.
On top of that I could get it for less than half the price of a S6, that meant that going sim only and buying the ZF2 I will have saved enough on my old contract terms to cover the cost of the phone in 7 months(or 5 compared to the S6 contract).
I concur with BigDavy. This phone has such bang for the buck. The specs are better than phones at twice the price. Still loving it after 8 months.
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found the incredible (almost literally).
i bought this phone because of a reviewer saying, that this phone has very good cell reception.
The house I live in right now (temporarily) has very thick stone walls (around 100cm, 400yrs old house) and many phones I tried, struggled to get 2G reception (Xperia Z2, Medion x5004, HTC One m8 to name a few..)
When the ASUS.. well.. I still cant believe.. it has 3 constant bars for 2g (others had barely one) AND in most parts of the house also 4G LTE. that was incredible.
I know that the Intel chipset isn't very battery friendly, but now that I tried it.. it is snappier than a snapdragon 800 series. my next phone? anything with an Intel chipset.
I moved from Galaxy S2, it had Dual 1.2GHZ (max over clock to 1.6 but it will burn the chip soon) with 1GB Ram. So you guess what, to me it felt like moving from a dying horse to a Lamborgini.
It's really incredible that I got this holy awesomeness for $200 ;D Unfortunately, there isn't too much support for the 5" models around here, so I selected the second option. I would like to see more support for it
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found the incredible (almost literally).
i bought this phone because of a reviewer saying, that this phone has very good cell reception.
The house I live in right now (temporarily) has very thick stone walls (around 100cm, 400yrs old house) and many phones I tried, struggled to get 2G reception (Xperia Z2, Medion x5004, HTC One m8 to name a few..)
When the ASUS.. well.. I still cant believe.. it has 3 constant bars for 2g (others had barely one) AND in most parts of the house also 4G LTE. that was incredible.
I know that the Intel chipset isn't very battery friendly, but now that I tried it.. it is snappier than a snapdragon 800 series. my next phone? anything with an Intel chipset.
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The house I live in right now (temporarily) has very thick stone walls (around 100cm, 400yrs old house)
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Cool house you live in!
i bought this phone because of a reviewer saying, that this phone has very good cell reception.
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My place too has bad reception; but the dude abides with his ZF2.
I came from a Samsung S3 that was slower than a wet week
As the ZF2 isnt sold here in Australia I took a chance and it has turned out okay....I have had one problem of the camera not working but that was fixed under warranty (took 3 weeks to get it back) but the phone is powering along now...just waiting for the Marshmallow update to come to see whether I put a custom ROM on it or not...
cheers
col
I'm very satisfied. Moved from an iphone 5 to the 550ML (Z008) just after it was launched. Wanted the 551 with 4GB, 2.3ghz and 1080p but had to settle for the cheaper one with 2GB, 1.8ghz and 720p (in Japan ASUS only sold the 551 at inflated prices, and it was also a bit overpriced from importers). The 1.8ghz cpu is plenty fast enough for my needs and the 720p sceen is better than I expected. 2GB RAM is a bit short when using the stock 5.0 firmware that has memory management issues, but is plenty when using CM. I love the size, the feel of the phone in my hand and its snappy ux performance. Bang for the buck, even at a slightly high importer price, has been incredible, and going unlocked has enabled me to switch to an MNVO and save an absolute fortune every month in carrier charges (the phone had basically paid for itself in about four months). I'm now pretty tempted by the astonishing value some Xiaomi or LeTV devices offer, but have to keep reminding myself that I love my ZF2 and it still has plenty of life in it. Will use it until the battery starts going.
I was using G3 when I bought Zenfone 2 (I used Zenfone 5 before G3), and I have to say that Zenfone 2 will be my last phone made by ASUS, too much bugs, slow update (even 2 years old G3 got Android 6 for a month!).
ASUS is just promoting their new phones, they don't care about their old customers.
At first, i hesitated to buy the ASUS ZenFone 2 as it uses an Intel chipset, but after going through every review on the internet, i made my mind. This is the phone i was looking for. Best in class performance and features from a famous brand known worldwide for just under $200. I wanted to buy the 4gb ram model, but was tight on budget and opted for 2gb model. Was quite happy with my buy. Now i'm even more happy with the excellent custom rom support it has got, gets the same attention as the higher end model.
Just "IN SEARCH OF INCREDIBLE" for official OS update (MM 6.0.1) from ASUS.
64 bit processor + 4gb ram + 5.5 screen (optimal size in my opinion) + decent storage capacity + storage expansion + reasonable price.
Upgraded from Galaxy Note II.
Met my expectations so far (have it since Nov. 2015), only two problems - when I receive calls, people start hearing me with a delay, and the phone has been bent a little
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After 7 months still "okay" took some looks for an replacement, but at the moment nothing better in sight regarding price / value.
Waiting for android 6.0 and announcement of ZenFone 3
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anything good (price & features) about ASUS ZF 2 except too much bloatware & rear speaker (crackling problem), so far ASUS ZF 2 is the best for the buck
Scored it 8. -2 for...
-Current gaming performance -- early videos show that this is a gaming beast for it's price. Unfortunately, I don't experience such smoothness right now, even after reflashing and playing on performance mode.
-Battery drain from the latest update -- Not sure if it's my fault or what, but I'm getting massive wakelocks from Calendar Storage. I think that's the culprit for my battery drain. **Already did factory reset and reflash, same thing**
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You forgot honeycomb 3.x
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Yum
With this phone it was never about finding incredible - it was about finding a good phone for less than $600, and this phone is great considering the price
I have been using the new Xiaomi mi5 since 1 Month now, and the LG G5 since 5 days. I can notice big difference for the favor of the Xiaomi. Its faster, smoother, no overheating, battery life extremely better. And even the 3GB version of the Xiaomi i have scored a higer score on the antutu benchmark
I wanted to share my experience with you guys, and we could discuss pros and cons of each device and maybe your votes to keep the Xiaomi or the LG
Thanks
i have both too and would say the LG G5 is a tad more fluid and software much more optimised.
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i have both too and would say the LG G5 is a tad more fluid and software much more optimised.
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Didn't you notice the battery life difference between both for the exact same way of use? I found MIUI a totally different experience of android, not ideal, but different. The screen resolution under the sun light as well is favored by Xiaomi more than the LG. I am having this overheated LG which is not to be noticed on Xiaomi ( except when charging). Don't forget the price difference as well
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Didn't you notice the battery life difference between both for the exact same way of use? I found MIUI a totally different experience of android, not ideal, but different. The screen resolution under the sun light as well is favored by Xiaomi more than the LG. I am having this overheated LG which is not to be noticed on Xiaomi ( except when charging). Don't forget the price difference as well
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maybe the UK LG G5's are from a good batch beause i noticed none of the moulding or heating issues... also EE in the UK are selling the LG G5 for £399 which makes it as cheap as the Mi5 and at that price I'd go with the LG as it supports all European LTE bands.
Zaynoun said:
I have been using the new Xiaomi mi5 since 1 Month now, and the LG G5 since 5 days. I can notice big difference for the favor of the Xiaomi. Its faster, smoother, no overheating, battery life extremely better. And even the 3GB version of the Xiaomi i have scored a higer score on the antutu benchmark
I wanted to share my experience with you guys, and we could discuss pros and cons of each device and maybe your votes to keep the Xiaomi or the LG
Thanks
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Camera ? That alone rules the mi out if it matters to you.
The only chinese company that has a chance here is huawei. Not xiaomi or opo.
if you're into performance and roming then stick to those two. They are great for the price.
Battery has been improving on the xiaomi's. The redmi note 3 is excellent for battery.
But sealed battery and no expandable storage are deal breakers for me.
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Camera ? That alone rules the mi out if it matters to you.
The only chinese company that has a chance here is huawei. Not xiaomi or opo.
if you're into performance and roming then stick to those two. They are great for the price.
Battery has been improving on the xiaomi's. The redmi note 3 is excellent for battery.
But sealed battery and no expandable storage are deal breakers for me.
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Huawei? i won't be that sure dude. After my experience with Mate 8 i won't repeat this experience again with Huawei. I am not that into chinese handsets, but the Xiaomi mi5 changed my mind somehow. They did great in this device. I am not a camera guy, so i didn't even take it into consideration. Performance and personalized UI is what counts for me. Running both devices on antutu benchmark, the mi5 (32GB, 3GB RAM) scored 108K and fractions, and the G5 (32GB, 4GB RAM) scored 103K and fractions.
My personal opinion is that after the MI5, Xiaomi will overtake Huawei in selling numbers coming after Samsung and Apple. First sale wave 4 Mil. sold devices whereas G5 launching day in S. Korea 150K sold.
Last but not least, this opens the market more for competition among manufacturers which results in something good for us users.
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Huawei? i won't be that sure dude. After my experience with Mate 8 i won't repeat this experience again with Huawei. I am not that into chinese handsets, but the Xiaomi mi5 changed my mind somehow. They did great in this device. I am not a camera guy, so i didn't even take it into consideration. Performance and personalized UI is what counts for me. Running both devices on antutu benchmark, the mi5 (32GB, 3GB RAM) scored 108K and fractions, and the G5 (32GB, 4GB RAM) scored 103K and fractions.
My personal opinion is that after the MI5, Xiaomi will overtake Huawei in selling numbers coming after Samsung and Apple. First sale wave 4 Mil. sold devices whereas G5 launching day in S. Korea 150K sold.
Last but not least, this opens the market more for competition among manufacturers which results in something good for us users.
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Exactly, if you don't appreciate camera, don't care for expandable storage or replacable battery, then G5 isn't going to impress you.
Each device has its own forte. otherwise its like comparing a cow & a horse and saying the horse is better because it runs faster
xiaomi's & opo's forte is price. For the price you get x,y,z. Always this qualifier 'for the price' is used to describe these phones. This is why people run after them. Huawei isn't in the same price range so not much interest but this is a demographic that isn't going to look at flagships in the first place. Huawei has been creating waves of late and has the resources to pull it off. To sell in the west they are best placed. So they are also looking dangerous to the big 3. Your bad experience with the mate 8 is an anecdote. i can find any number of people in these forums that does not like a paritcular device for some reason or other. Does not make the device nor the company that made that device bad.
You go on about performance but anything with an SD800 and above has enough performance in 2016. People are not going to replace their phones because of low antutu score. They will do it if it lags and if the firmware becomes incapable for whatever reason of delivering what they want.
The competition is good but i would have preferred they not make sealed batteries and no expandable storage. Which flagship in 2016 will not have expandable storage. Only the nexus. Am surprised you did not even mention this. From what i can see all the big 4 have it. Cheaper phones have always included them and to not find them on flagships is odd. here its a reverse situation. When the flagships have it this so called affordable flagship refuses to have it. Why. because it looks pretty ?
As it is we are held back by OS upgrades .Anything less than a flagship means the device you buy dies with whatever OS it came with. To then add extra hardware limitations so as to force you to upgrade every couple of years isn't encouraging.
Oh i know that mi & opo are good with updates.Just have to be patient. When i hang out in those forums sometimes important bugs can take months to fix if at all. You don't get this with the bigger names. We will pretend the S6 memory fiasco did not happen. You have an idea what it is at the outset not several months later. You pay more because you are not a paying beta tester.
There is one thing i will grant these chinese phones and that is root is not a big deal. Click here to root. Amazing.The weird thing about phones compared to computers is you are not allowed to become admin for some reason. You are the owner of the device but you cannot really own it. No problems with locked bootloaders etc.
Whereas if you don't have a euro G5 there is no chance to root because all other bootloaders are locked by LG. Major deal breaker for some people. We're not even talking about roms here. Just root.
xiaomi is still slower than iphone 6 plus
mze1 said:
xiaomi is still slower than iphone 6 plus
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Again the theory or comparing horse and cow Who runs faster
One Twelve said:
Exactly, if you don't appreciate camera, don't care for expandable storage or replacable battery, then G5 isn't going to impress you.
Each device has its own forte. otherwise its like comparing a cow & a horse and saying the horse is better because it runs faster
xiaomi's & opo's forte is price. For the price you get x,y,z. Always this qualifier 'for the price' is used to describe these phones. This is why people run after them. Huawei isn't in the same price range so not much interest but this is a demographic that isn't going to look at flagships in the first place. Huawei has been creating waves of late and has the resources to pull it off. To sell in the west they are best placed. So they are also looking dangerous to the big 3. Your bad experience with the mate 8 is an anecdote. i can find any number of people in these forums that does not like a paritcular device for some reason or other. Does not make the device nor the company that made that device bad.
You go on about performance but anything with an SD800 and above has enough performance in 2016. People are not going to replace their phones because of low antutu score. They will do it if it lags and if the firmware becomes incapable for whatever reason of delivering what they want.
The competition is good but i would have preferred they not make sealed batteries and no expandable storage. Which flagship in 2016 will not have expandable storage. Only the nexus. Am surprised you did not even mention this. From what i can see all the big 4 have it. Cheaper phones have always included them and to not find them on flagships is odd. here its a reverse situation. When the flagships have it this so called affordable flagship refuses to have it. Why. because it looks pretty ?
As it is we are held back by OS upgrades .Anything less than a flagship means the device you buy dies with whatever OS it came with. To then add extra hardware limitations so as to force you to upgrade every couple of years isn't encouraging.
Oh i know that mi & opo are good with updates.Just have to be patient. When i hang out in those forums sometimes important bugs can take months to fix if at all. You don't get this with the bigger names. We will pretend the S6 memory fiasco did not happen. You have an idea what it is at the outset not several months later. You pay more because you are not a paying beta tester.
There is one thing i will grant these chinese phones and that is root is not a big deal. Click here to root. Amazing.The weird thing about phones compared to computers is you are not allowed to become admin for some reason. You are the owner of the device but you cannot really own it. No problems with locked bootloaders etc.
Whereas if you don't have a euro G5 there is no chance to root because all other bootloaders are locked by LG. Major deal breaker for some people. We're not even talking about roms here. Just root.
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All your points you discussed are logical, but POVs' are relative. Otherwise if we all have same opinion or POV then all will buy same device, but each individual looks at things from different perspective.
I am not against any device or manufacturer, i am just reflecting my experience with the devices. I am not comparing paper values, rather personal usage and experience. This only reflects mu POV according to how i use and what i like to use in a phone.
Expandable memory? Mmmmm, Apple doesn't have, Nexus, Xiaomi as well. Maybe they have a marketing strategy behind it,thats why they are making devices with 128GB Internal memory. ( except Nesus).
I have the T-Mobile LG G5 and it will take quite looong time before any development will be out there. Unlocking bootloader, rooting, and ROM's.
Because i liked both devices, i am keeping both as well the G5 and Mi5 It's just the experience i have with MI5, it gave a new and different experience which i liked and respect from a company 6 years old, and i have been using android phones for the past 10 years.
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i have both too and would say the LG G5 is a tad more fluid and software much more optimised.
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Where did you get your mi5 from?
Also android police was very negative about the G5
mi5 scored higher due to fullHD display.... captain obvious here.
mze1 said:
xiaomi is still slower than iphone 6 plus
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IT's actually faster, it does more things at once. Comparing the foreground app as an indication of a machine's "speed" is false on so many levels. It's very much possible on (any) android machine to do many things at once, something that iOS expressively disallows, apart from very few "approved" services (like music playing).
So yeah, things happen faster to an Android machine, even if it is 2 years old, it *feels* less fast though...
Market share as it stands right now. Xiaomi is going to have to vault past two other Chinese vendors that have more resources to get to 3rd place. Those two aren't standing still.
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Tough choice.
The Mi 5 is physically smaller than the G5. +1 for the Mi 5
The Mi 5 has a 1080p screen with a 3,000mAh battery vs the G5's QHD screen with a tiny 2,800mAh battery. +1 for the Mi 5
LG's custom Android ROM isn't as bad as the one from Xiaomi. +1 for the G5
The Mi 5 has a physical home button vs the on screen buttons of the G5. +1 for the G5
The G5 is made by LG while the Mi 5 is made by Xiaomi. +1 for the G5.
Mi 5: 2
G5: 3
But the combination of bigger battery and lower resolution of the Mi 5 is a BIG plus.
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One Twelve said:
Market share as it stands right now. Xiaomi is going to have to vault past two other Chinese vendors that have more resources to get to 3rd place. Those two aren't standing still.
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Wow, I'm really surprised how low LG is. I realize LG is smaller than Samsung and Apple but with Apple at ~18% and Samsung at ~24% I would have guessed like 10-12% for LG.
Just a 2800 mAh battery for a 5.3 QHD display phone ? Seriously LG ? Replacable battery is a plus but how often would you replace it ?
One Twelve said:
Market share as it stands right now. Xiaomi is going to have to vault past two other Chinese vendors that have more resources to get to 3rd place. Those two aren't standing still.
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By the way, in Q1 the Mi5 had only the first selling wave which was i think somewhere between 9 -12 March. So we have to wait until Q2 to see how they do especially after they release all other colors and the 128 GB version as well.
Why would anyone want the Mi5 after seeing this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2jav7UdQtE
It breaks like a toothpick.
3000 mAh is ok, but a 2800 compared to it is "tiny", LOL.
jimv1983 said:
Tough choice.
The Mi 5 is physically smaller than the G5. +1 for the Mi 5
The Mi 5 has a 1080p screen with a 3,000mAh battery vs the G5's QHD screen with a tiny 2,800mAh battery. +1 for the Mi 5
LG's custom Android ROM isn't as bad as the one from Xiaomi. +1 for the G5
The Mi 5 has a physical home button vs the on screen buttons of the G5. +1 for the G5
The G5 is made by LG while the Mi 5 is made by Xiaomi. +1 for the G5.
Mi 5: 2
G5: 3
But the combination of bigger battery and lower resolution of the Mi 5 is a BIG plus.
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Not a tough choice, rather easy in fact.
Camera is why you will choose the G5.
Budget is why people run after the Chinese. They can't spend more than $350. Some arbitrary number. They will compromise any requirement to fit into that budget. And the design is pretty good, they say why pay $200-300 more for a phone that 'looks' and 'feels' similar. Then they will quote you some specs and say see i got same cpu for so little. lol.
You can get up to 5h SOT on the G5 with always on off. If you need more get a spare battery. Now you can get 10h if necessary. Takes one minute to replace the battery. You will need to do this if you use the camera a lot any way.
Wow, I'm really surprised how low LG is. I realize LG is smaller than Samsung and Apple but with Apple at ~18% and Samsung at ~24% I would have guessed like 10-12% for LG.
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LG is a conglomerate that sells lots of other things. That they could even get that much share is good. Not being in that list does not affect companies that make phones or even new ones from joining.In the sense the top players make the most profit. But if you're a smaller player and still making a profit there is no problem.
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davebugyi said:
3000 mAh is ok, but a 2800 compared to it is "tiny", LOL.
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yep, 6% and its the end of the world
6.0.1 has been good for battery life. Even the S6 with its ZOMG 2600 non-replacable battery has benefited.