Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
As italian, i'm totally afree with you...i just want the MIUI features and the 20 LTE band.
timeless241285 said:
Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
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But still, why do you need Miui so badly when you have stock Android ? Because of special features like dt2w and so ? That will come here also when custom kernel arrive.
NITRO_100 said:
But still, why do you need Miui so badly when you have stock Android ? Because of special features like dt2w and so ? That will come here also when custom kernel arrive.
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MIUI has an optimisation than stock Android hasn't. RAM cleaner on the Recent tabs, Security Center, Built-in call recording, sound recorder, dual space (that for dual SIM it's very important) and many others and features..
I guess when kernel source is available developer will be able to port miui regardless of band and any other limitations..
jack_21 said:
MIUI has an optimisation than stock Android hasn't. RAM cleaner on the Recent tabs, Security Center, Built-in call recording, sound recorder, dual space (that for dual SIM it's very important) and many others and features..
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Miui has very aggressive optimization that I hated, because many apps had misbehaved, I always turn that off. Ram cleaner is nonsense but you have it in stock android too. The options in security center, call recording, sound recorder can be achieved by 3rd party apps. Dual space is like 2nd account.
Don't get me wrong, I generally like miui but there isn't any option that I miss, and multitasking is way better in stock android, apps doesn't get killed after 10 minutes.
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
IamSubhodeep said:
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
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Stop asking for miui on an Android stock phone. Go for the mi5x instead , i know it lacks the B20 but life is hard.:good:
jlmcr87 said:
Stop asking for miui on an Android stock phone. Go for the mi5x instead , i know it lacks the B20 but life is hard.:good:
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We don't come on the XDA for philosophy classes. :|
I really hope that we'll be able to run MIUI on this device.
I already own a Mi A1.
IamSubhodeep said:
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
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I guess that was meant for me (next time pls quote me). Well I have my opinion an I feel free to share it, as you share yours which I appreciate.
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android. It's just the cosmetics that bothers you. You knew that this phone is pure android, you knew that it has 2 partitions and you should have researched if there is miui rom/port available before you purchased it. Or better, you should purchased it when miui rom/port eventually will be available. And there are good phones from Xiaomi (global ones) even cheaper than this with Miui 9.
Btw, I believe someone (maybe you) will port miui after xiaomi release kernel source, but then we would be allready on Oreo.
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I guess that was meant for me (next time pls quote me). Well I have my opinion an I feel free to share it, as you share yours which I appreciate.
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android. It's just the cosmetics that bothers you. You knew that this phone is pure android, you knew that it has 2 partitions and you should have researched if there is miui rom/port available before you purchased it. Or better, you should purchased it when miui rom/port eventually will be available. And there are good phones from Xiaomi (global ones) even cheaper than this with Miui 9.
Btw, I believe someone (maybe you) will port miui after xiaomi release kernel source, but then we would be allready on Oreo.
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It was not meant for you specifically. I have seen people bashing the MIUI users with the same comment on multiple forums.
And about porting, I know nothing about it. Waiting for you people to do that. I'll be grateful.
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I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android.
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Ok, then show me how can I achieve built in XiaomiAccount, Mi Cloud/Gallery, Mi App store, Xiaomi Notes, etc...
I don't care about the bells and whistles if these services working good!
And that fine grained permission management would be good, not that simple dull one from stock android.
Upo_hu said:
Ok, then show me how can I achieve built in XiaomiAccount, Mi Cloud/Gallery, Mi App store, Xiaomi Notes, etc...
I don't care about the bells and whistles if these services working good!
And that fine grained permission management would be good, not that simple dull one from stock android.
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And how is all that different then Google account, drive, photos, play store, keep which all are working great if not better then miui (especially the web versions) ? As I said, there is nothing in miui that can't be replaced. And what do you mean by dull permission management ?
And there are 2 ways of how you can achieve that: wait till xiaomi release kernel source and try to port miui rom, or get a global version (if you are in Europe) of some other Xiaomi device.
timeless241285 said:
Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
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Although I am not sure but I think that using Qualcomm Flash Tools you should be able to install Mi 5X ROM with Mi 5X partition table and get it up and running, but if these devices aren't that similar inside then you can end up with a hard brick. After flashing using QFIL you might have to flash Mi A1 modem for A1 band support...
PS: Don't do this and backup EFS and other critical partitions if you decide to do it anyway
But if we flash (on one of the a/b partition so you can set active the other in case you have make disaster) only the system and boot partition from Mi 5x fastboot official room, it may be enough?
Of course you will have to wipe data...
NITRO_100 said:
And there are 2 ways of how you can achieve that: wait till xiaomi release kernel source and try to port miui rom, or get a global version (if you are in Europe) of some other Xiaomi device.
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+1
The reason why I bought this phone is because I didn't want to throw 800e on Pixel, and I wanted a cheap phone with a pure android.This thing is a real successor of the Nexus line.
There are so many global versions of xiaomi devices outhere, that there is no need for this phone if all you want is a miui.But you can always try to port it. That's the beauty of development.
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Frankly, I don't know what is wrong for asking. Usually so called real technical people will tell people off if you want this why don't you buy that kind of argument. I see that the one that asks this question has nothing wrong. Everyone of us having such experience when we buy something from the market, we realise that there is a gap in functionality or even down the aesthetic feels, gestures or even some of the commands arrangement that looks stupid....etc, therefore, we asked for something we felt that has done very well, and wish that it could be done in this. If we always have to put up with what is in the box, we don't give the chance for the company to improve, and you ultimately don't help to improve the products.
After reading information from different forums, sometimes I felt sorry for those people who scoffed at people. Maybe you are protecting the brands, or protecting somethings that you feel so much attached to and disregard other people.
May I suggest that if you could not offer a better solutions, or if you think that this is not worth to do it. Just keep quiet and let other people try to answer. Or if you would like to encourage it, such as this example, a simple words like "I like the idea too!" will probably help. Words such as "No way there will be MIUI on Stock Android Phone...etc." If you believe so much about no way, would you willing to bet your neck on your chopping board? With enough incentives, someone will come out with a solution.
Sorry if I sound harsh, but this is how innovation and revolution comes about.
There is nothing wrong with asking. But there is everything wrong with asking the same question every day, in every section and always starting a new topic. You got the answer already, "currently not possible, if you want MIUI, but a device with MIUI". One would expect, that guys wanting MIUI will be satisfied, but no. They'll just create a new topic and ask the same question over and over again. If someone ports MIUI to A1, I'm pretty sure that there will be a proper topic and announcment for that.
Btw. words like "I want it too" can maybe help you to find similarly frustrated people, but that's it. Xiaomi won't read it. Google will not read it. Developers don't care, if they'll do it, it won't be because you want it (donation might be motivating though). Just look at Xposed for Nougat or Oreo topics, hundreds of useless posts like "waiting for an update..".
I would understand negative reactions if this thread would request Xiaomi to replace Android Stock with MIUI on all Mi A1 models for good! But it's addressed to developers on this forum and you'll loose nothing if someone will work on it. Why would you comment against it if you don't like or need MIUI on your phone?... This is beyond my understanding, but sadly the internet is full of this kind of thinking.
Dual app is a feature you can not have it in Stock as fully operational as in MIUI. Some apps (like FB Messenger) will not get push notifications on Stock for cloned apps.
You can use Second Space with one account and you don't have a replacement for this feature for now.
Permission Management is far more complex than even any Xposed module.
China build have Automated Task which again, no module could replace it, as for example: you can schedule to disable just vibrations and nothing else on a specific time of the day.
Notifications synced online.
Calculator with any kind of functions.
Call Recording.
One Hand Mode accessed by swiping from Home button to the left or right. You don't have to loose other functions using different shortcuts. (Double tap is just not efficient).
You have Wallpaper Carousel for your Lockscreen.
You can combine multiple themes to create your best appearance. Stock will never be as beautiful as MIUI can be, but that implies you have some taste for design and art.
All of this are BUILT IN and no root needed or any additional work!
I'm sure I have missed some other details, but when you love MIUI, you just need it, without any explanations. And a lot of Xiaomi phones doesn't have band 20 (800 Mhz) within this price range and specs.
Or maybe you just like to have them both available for your phone with Stock as official. Why's that wrong? ...
Absolutely agree! And additionally, all my data syced to mi cloud, just 1 click to restore. And it is unusable on android one. I too would buy a Mi 5x with B20 or A1 with miui!
Hi everyone,
I was wondering if any of you know ZTE was going to provide any software update on their stock rom. From what I read, it does seems to be very unclear considering what's happening with the US government. So far, I haven't rooted my phone yet since my old LG G3 started to have wireless connectivity issues after I flashed a few roms on it and I continued to have those issues after I put the stock LG rom, so I'm a little bit scared to try again. Still, I'm wondering if any of you guys knows if there's a good rom out there that can work fine and that has the lasted security patch. If not, I'll probably think about switching phone, since I don't really like the idea to use a phone that's unsupported.
Thanks
There won't be any more Nougat updates as it's up to the ROM (Nougat B10 for my global model) where it bridges to Oreo and now Oreo even if it's released or leaked won't get updates.
Just my opinion but can't see how it could go any other way.
I guess for longevity, all you can look at is if any custom ROMs are long term and bug free. I think all custom ROMs for Axon 7 have at least one proper bug which affects calls or camera. One reason I stay stock.
RobboW said:
There won't be any more Nougat updates as it's up to the ROM (Nougat B10 for my global model) where it bridges to Oreo and now Oreo even if it's released or leaked won't get updates.
Just my opinion but can't see how it could go any other way.
I guess for longevity, all you can look at is if any custom ROMs are long term and bug free. I think all custom ROMs for Axon 7 have at least one proper bug which affects calls or camera. One reason I stay stock.
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Thanks for the answer.
At least I'm not the only one to feel that this is what's going to happen. I love the Axon 7, but if it doesn't get updated, I should probably go for the Samsung Galaxy A8 since my carrier has a pretty good deal on it (15$ CAD over 24 months). The Nokia 7 doesn't seems like a really good phone as well with updates directly from Google. I think I'll have to shop a little bit.
The #8 post(replay from zteusa [email protected]) says all
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/help/news-2017g-android-oreo-t3755822
vas said:
The #8 post(replay from zteusa [email protected]) says all
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/help/news-2017g-android-oreo-t3755822
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That's even worst than I thought
vas said:
The #8 post(replay from zteusa [email protected]) says all
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/help/news-2017g-android-oreo-t3755822
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what does it "say"?
Oreo is around, ZTE says the word "no update" and it gets out
There are tons of android 8 and 9 GSI ROMs out there for devices with treble support. I know LG has decided not to add project treble support for the V20. Now, I wonder if any developer is working on this for this lovely phone. It will be nice to keep this phone for some time as long as there is is possibility to update the software to newer versions.
i95swervin said:
Your above quote has nothing to do with the LG V20.
If manufacturers shipped devices with 7.0 it is not required for them to add treble support in a future update. Your best bet is to wait and see what happens with AOSP roms. Not promising anything.
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Uh they specifically asked if any devs are working on treble for the v20. which is possible seeing as we added support for it on the v30.
me2151 said:
Uh they specifically asked if any devs are working on treble for the v20. which is possible seeing as we added support for it on the v30.
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The v30 isn't the v20.. right now x86cpu has it mostly working, but there's issues with the camera not playing well with the vndk (treble) restrictions and needing things on /system. He's been blocked on this for a bit, but sit tight and just generally watch the LineageOS 15.1 thread.
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The v30 isn't the v20.. right now x86cpu has it mostly working, but there's issues with the camera not playing well with the vndk (treble) restrictions and needing things on /system. He's been blocked on this for a bit, but sit tight and just generally watch the LineageOS 15.1 thread.
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If x86cpu succeeds with the V30, I guess it should not be too difficult to get it done for the V20 since each OEM usually has similar file structures for their phones.
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If x86cpu succeeds with the V30, I guess it should not be too difficult to get it done for the V20 since each OEM usually has similar file structures for their phones.
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Let me put it another way, it IS done except the camera isn't playing nice. Read a few pages from the lineage thread starting about here.
Apparently, LG v20 is A only. But it should work. Can't comment on whether the camera would work or not though.
https://www.getdroidtips.com/lg-v20-android-9-0-pie/
I tested my lg v20 by using getprop ro.treble.enabled and it showed "true". Also tried the treble checker app and it is A only. not A/B.
Nevermind. It only appeared as A only when i was on RR 6. But that doesnt exactly makes it A
Any luck with a build?
Guess that's a no
bump
Woot woot
Our guy @Travisholt92 has made a few posts regarding his intent to get Pie for the K20 Plus, with a possibility of skipping porting Pie altogether to get a working ROM on Android 10. But as far as I know he needs to wait for some official releases on similar devices in order to build something that'll work on the K20. Plus some set backs have caused delays needing some equipment to build and test the ROM, esp with 10 requiring Treble compatibility. So, couple that with waning activity on here and people switching to other phones, we may never see P or Q on this K.
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Our guy @Travisholt92 has made a few posts regarding his intent to get Pie for the K20 Plus, with a possibility of skipping porting Pie altogether to get a working ROM on Android 10. But as far as I know he needs to wait for some official releases on similar devices in order to build something that'll work on the K20. Plus some set backs have caused delays needing some equipment to build and test the ROM, esp with 10 requiring Treble compatibility. So, couple that with waning activity on here and people switching to other phones, we may never see P or Q on this K.
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Once I order a back camera and H flex ribbon for the rear speaker. I can start working on this device again. Lately I've been working on the Stylo 3 plus which is in the same product family
Project update?
Is there any updates on the project? I hope we see most features working..
Last rom upgrade had a lot of missing features
LucianoPena28 said:
Is there any updates on the project? I hope we see most features working..
Last rom upgrade had a lot of missing features
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I wouldn't hold my breath for a Pie ROM for the K20. I'm pretty sure Travisholt92, the last remaining developer on these 'rums, has either moved on to another device or is working on porting Android 10, or both.
One of my favorite parts of OnePlus was always the development supported to the devices. I've always used and flashed as many rounds as possible for whatever device I've ever had. So I went to T-Mobile and bought the OnePlus 70 pro 5G McLaren or McLaren 5G. and somehow the fact that I got a specialty phone put me in an area where I can't take advantage of any of the ROMs in development for the device.this is a time when I wish I would have developed and compiled my own ROMs I'm sure I could figure it out but we need help over here.
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One of my favorite parts of OnePlus was always the development supported to the devices. I've always used and flashed as many rounds as possible for whatever device I've ever had. So I went to T-Mobile and bought the OnePlus 70 pro 5G McLaren or McLaren 5G. and somehow the fact that I got a specialty phone put me in an area where I can't take advantage of any of the ROMs in development for the device.this is a time when I wish I would have developed and compiled my own ROMs I'm sure I could figure it out but we need help over here.
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That is why I am thinking of eBay'ing mine and getting a non-carrier 8 Pro - IF it has the proper setup of frequencies for US Tmo, as it appears it does. This should make rooting, updates and development to be much easier
Yeah thats an idea I haven't thought of. I was actually looking into buying a 7t. There's at least an international unlocking method for it.
What happened with this device? I dont understand why there is 0 rom's. If it is the 5G, I would think that is not an issue. I am sure most people would dump 5G for Custom Rom's. I am not sure where to start to figure this out. Lineage OS supports the other variants of this device.
I think the HD1925 just wasn't a big seller, maybe to be expected as an early adopter 5g phone, specific to USA and T-Mobile, that has already been eclipsed. It was a modification of an existing phone that was reasonably successful, but it's different enough that ROMs for the other variants don't work.
I would not expect much future development, if you like Oxygen and stock ROM then it will be fine, rooting and Magisk are possible and can give you a lot of options for customizing. If true custom ROMs like LineageOS are important to you, I'd probably get something else.
It would be nice to at least get TWRP for this thing. I am going to be getting rid of mine and trying to find another phone that doesn't stifle development. Sad because I really do like the phone.
Juxto2010 said:
It would be nice to at least get TWRP for this thing. I am going to be getting rid of mine and trying to find another phone that doesn't stifle development. Sad because I really do like the phone.
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I'm trying to get a 8 Pro for that reason, but OnePlus is driving me and many others nuts. Then this one will be on eBay - but only after the 8 is setup.
TWRP is nowhere near ready for all newer devices that shipped with Android 10. Probably later in 2020.
And to make matters worst, we will not be able to take full advantage of 5G due to a lack of support for some of the freq's.
Supposedly we should see band 41 via an update eventually so really the only bands missing from the 5g McLaren are mmwave which are useless outside of a stadium or metropolitan area so once we get the midband update things will improve speed and signalwise...
i ordered a demo mode mclaren today. i do officials for aosip on mix 3. im gonna be looking into doing development for this phone if i can somehow hack it out of demo mode and get tmo to unlock sim/bootloader for me.
does anyone have any info for me? has anyone done any dev work thus far? do we have a telegram group for the phone?
im pretty certain i can get things going based on the hard work that ppl have already done for 7t/7pro, etc. if i can open up this phone i ordered
Constrabus said:
i ordered a demo mode mclaren today. i do officials for aosip on mix 3. im gonna be looking into doing development for this phone if i can somehow hack it out of demo mode and get tmo to unlock sim/bootloader for me.
does anyone have any info for me? has anyone done any dev work thus far? do we have a telegram group for the phone?
im pretty certain i can get things going based on the hard work that ppl have already done for 7t/7pro, etc. if i can open up this phone i ordered
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Check out the group hotdogg dev on telegram. Some guys on there got Omni working for the TMobile mclaren it just broke 5g and fp permanently if you didn't backup persist.img.
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Check out the group hotdogg dev on telegram. Some guys on there got Omni working for the TMobile mclaren it just broke 5g and fp permanently if you didn't backup persist.img.
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cant find it for the life of me lol could I have the link to the chat?
Constrabus said:
cant find it for the life of me lol could I have the link to the chat?
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https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=g384100389
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https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=g384100389
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Is this normal? I've been trying to join this group to no avail..
So far I've tried.
1. resetprop persist.radio.multisim.config dsds
This enabled the second sim to show up in sim settings. It also grays out the sim1 and does not allow any changes to it.
2. Used the manifest.xml from https://forum.xda-developers.com/7t-pro/how-to/oneplus-7t-pro-mclaren-5g-dev-starts-t4028815/page8
Created a magisk module to copy this manifest.xml during boot and nothing changed in terms of sim. The build.props file did not have persist.radio.multisim.config after putting this file in.
Any updates from the telegram group? Love to see Dual Sim in action.
any new news? and will 1925 mclaren run on verizon?
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any new news? and will 1925 mclaren run on verizon?
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It should run any SIM. Is verizon on CDMA?
no they wont even activate new cdma verizon cdma=DEAD in january
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they are gsm now