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I want to buy it but I heard that so many people's Nexus 4 phones shattered out of the blue??? I treat my phones with delicacy but these people say their phones broke from being in their pocket with nothing else in it. I have a SGS2 and it doesn't have a single scratch or bend or any flaw on its hardware visible view
Agree. I have had an SGSII for 18 months, 12 months without any sort of screen protector and I haven't had a single scratch on the screen (touch wood).
Mine and most others are fine, shattered out of the blue is a misnomer really, just means the owner doesn't know how it got broken, obviously it's not going to spontaneously shatter.
thanks guys. I'd like if some other people also shared their hardware experience because I don't want to regret buying this phone hence I live in the Bahamas. this means I won't be able to return it if something happened as quick and would cost a lot of money
There's already a ton of threads and discussion on this, but I'll oblige OP and provide my experiences once again.
Some background on my phone usage: I came from a Galaxy S which had the previous generation of Gorilla Glass. After over two years of heavy use without a case or screen cover, my phone had two very minor but broad scratches that could only been seen with the screen off and at certain angles under certain lighting. Screen on, you would never know the phone wasn't brand new.
My N4 arrived last Monday (two days use thus far) and I removed the packaging films from the front and rear. Haven't got a case but I ordered the Poetic Slimbook case, which I expect in December.
I haven't dropped the N4 and have placed it on many different surfaces (Thanksgiving table in a room with over a dozen eaters, so the table wasn't very clean). My phones have always sat in my front pocket. While the N4 has been occupying this same space, I've heard it hit a few tables and counters, which left me grimacing on the inside.
However, I'm glad to say that my N4 is pristine and has zero scratches, scuffs, or signs of wear. Both glass faces have stayed spotless and the oleophobic coating works very well. The plastic edges have not scuffed either, and don't seem too have picked up any oil/grime.
I really don't expect my phone to get scratched in any way over the next few years. I only got the case for extra protection when I am out or traveling. Also, I like flip cases
I wouldn't recommend this phone if you tend to be reckless with your phone and can't own up to it, so you make threads saying the screen randomly cracked. Those people would probably "bump" into a Window and break it, then blame the manufacturer for not making the glass bulletproof. I'm sure a lot of iPhone 4/4S users have scratched or cracked the glass faces on their phones, but no one said those phones were too fragile. The N4 is just as durable, if not more durable that the previous generation iPhone. If you are honest with yourself and think that you would mutilate an iPhone 4/4S, you should get a case and screen protector for the N4. It's not unusually fragile in any sense. Pretty durable in my opinion.
Maybe in two to three years, I'll end up with a few minor scratches that are invisible when the screen is on. For me, it's a phone, not a piece of art that is meant to be seen and not held. I really doubt that I'll scratch the phone now that I'm a bit older and wiser. The scratches on my old phone can be attributed to very drunken nights and surprise encounters with broken glass containers. Or perhaps some an unfortunate meeting with silicate on my old lab bench. Regardless, I learned how to take care of my phone without babying it.
No offense, but assuming everyone whose Nexus 4 spontaneously shattered isn't telling the whole story or is otherwise irresponsible is jumping to conclusions.
I set mine down to charge, returned 2 hours later, and the back had shattered around the speaker hole and radiated cracks throughout the rest of the back. I have no explanation for this other than the glass is potentially also sensitive to temperature change (warming battery/cool countertop). In any case, the fragility of the back of this phone is patently absurd for a mobile device and we can only hope Google/LG step up to rectify it. The internals of the phone are otherwise fantastic and it's a powerful device.
Hung0702 said:
There's already a ton of threads and discussion on this, but I'll oblige OP and provide my experiences once again.
Some background on my phone usage: I came from a Galaxy S which had the previous generation of Gorilla Glass. After over two years of heavy use without a case or screen cover, my phone had two very minor but broad scratches that could only been seen with the screen off and at certain angles under certain lighting. Screen on, you would never know the phone wasn't brand new.
My N4 arrived last Monday (two days use thus far) and I removed the packaging films from the front and rear. Haven't got a case but I ordered the Poetic Slimbook case, which I expect in December.
I haven't dropped the N4 and have placed it on many different surfaces (Thanksgiving table in a room with over a dozen eaters, so the table wasn't very clean). My phones have always sat in my front pocket. While the N4 has been occupying this same space, I've heard it hit a few tables and counters, which left me grimacing on the inside.
However, I'm glad to say that my N4 is pristine and has zero scratches, scuffs, or signs of wear. Both glass faces have stayed spotless and the oleophobic coating works very well. The plastic edges have not scuffed either, and don't seem too have picked up any oil/grime.
I really don't expect my phone to get scratched in any way over the next few years. I only got the case for extra protection when I am out or traveling. Also, I like flip cases
I wouldn't recommend this phone if you tend to be reckless with your phone and can't own up to it, so you make threads saying the screen randomly cracked. Those people would probably "bump" into a Window and break it, then blame the manufacturer for not making the glass bulletproof. I'm sure a lot of iPhone 4/4S users have scratched or cracked the glass faces on their phones, but no one said those phones were too fragile. The N4 is just as durable, if not more durable that the previous generation iPhone. If you are honest with yourself and think that you would mutilate an iPhone 4/4S, you should get a case and screen protector for the N4. It's not unusually fragile in any sense. Pretty durable in my opinion.
Maybe in two to three years, I'll end up with a few minor scratches that are invisible when the screen is on. For me, it's a phone, not a piece of art that is meant to be seen and not held. I really doubt that I'll scratch the phone now that I'm a bit older and wiser. The scratches on my old phone can be attributed to very drunken nights and surprise encounters with broken glass containers. Or perhaps some an unfortunate meeting with silicate on my old lab bench. Regardless, I learned how to take care of my phone without babying it.
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No offense, but assuming everyone whose Nexus 4 spontaneously shattered isn't telling the whole story or is otherwise irresponsible is jumping to conclusions.
I set mine down to charge, returned 2 hours later, and the back had shattered around the speaker hole and radiated cracks throughout the rest of the back. I have no explanation for this other than the glass is potentially also sensitive to temperature change (warming battery/cool countertop). In any case, the fragility of the back of this phone is patently absurd for a mobile device and we can only hope Google/LG step up to rectify it. The internals of the phone are otherwise fantastic and it's a powerful device.
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That being said, there are a very small number of people who's phone "breaks all by itself", I would imagine given any population that has a new device there will be a similar number of people who reports these kinds of problems. If you're too worried about it, throw a case on it.
Then again, maybe the case will break on its own too.
Well, you can always put a case around the case.
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No offense, but assuming everyone whose Nexus 4 spontaneously shattered isn't telling the whole story or is otherwise irresponsible is jumping to conclusions.
I set mine down to charge, returned 2 hours later, and the back had shattered around the speaker hole and radiated cracks throughout the rest of the back. I have no explanation for this other than the glass is potentially also sensitive to temperature change (warming battery/cool countertop). In any case, the fragility of the back of this phone is patently absurd for a mobile device and we can only hope Google/LG step up to rectify it. The internals of the phone are otherwise fantastic and it's a powerful device.
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One time I was at my brother's place and he had this untouched Krispy Kreme donut just sitting on the table.
Two hours later he comes back and sees a bite in it and asked me who had eaten it...
My response?... nooo ideaaa!
potatomaster said:
No offense, but assuming everyone whose Nexus 4 spontaneously shattered isn't telling the whole story or is otherwise irresponsible is jumping to conclusions.
I set mine down to charge, returned 2 hours later, and the back had shattered around the speaker hole and radiated cracks throughout the rest of the back. I have no explanation for this other than the glass is potentially also sensitive to temperature change (warming battery/cool countertop). In any case, the fragility of the back of this phone is patently absurd for a mobile device and we can only hope Google/LG step up to rectify it. The internals of the phone are otherwise fantastic and it's a powerful device.
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News at 11. Guy with 4 posts and no credibility states his phone spontaneously cracked the back screen.
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I dropped this phone from 4 feet standing up from a chair on the patio, it was forcefully thrown from my lap, flipped multiple times, and skidded on "Cement", and not a scratch. Unless these ppl got some weird defaulted phone they are full of it.
Would I want to drop it again? Nope. But, the phone won't break from thin air. In fact every pic I have seen that had a broken screen/back, you could see the pressure spot where it was hit, smashed, and otherwise bludgeoned.
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News at 11. Guy with 4 posts and no credibility states his phone spontaneously cracked the back screen.
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I dropped this phone from 4 feet standing up from a chair on the patio, it was forcefully thrown from my lap, flipped multiple times, and skidded on "Cement", and not a scratch. Unless these ppl got some weird defaulted phone they are full of it.
Would I want to drop it again? Nope. But, the phone won't break from thin air. In fact every pic I have seen that had a broken screen/back, you could see the pressure spot where it was hit, smashed, and otherwise bludgeoned.
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Thanks, very realistic perspective. I really don't know whether to get the SGS3 or N4 the n4 is so sexy but many people say its fragile and I treat my phones with the most extreme care I can give. I've never dropped my SGS2 except thrown on my bed.
If your used to taking care of your devices, then you should have no problem with this awesome N4!
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News at 11. Guy with 4 posts and no credibility states his phone spontaneously cracked the back screen.
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I dropped this phone from 4 feet standing up from a chair on the patio, it was forcefully thrown from my lap, flipped multiple times, and skidded on "Cement", and not a scratch. Unless these ppl got some weird defaulted phone they are full of it.
Would I want to drop it again? Nope. But, the phone won't break from thin air. In fact every pic I have seen that had a broken screen/back, you could see the pressure spot where it was hit, smashed, and otherwise bludgeoned.
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similar story; mine slid off a paper towel machine in a public restroom hit HARD right on the front glass on the tile floor, bounced up and landed on the back. i thought for sure one or both sides was going to have a huge crack but to my pleasant surprise, neither side had any scratches.
...now if it spontaneously cracks the next time i charge it..i will deny any responsibility :laugh:
woah.. I guess the phone isn't as fragile as it sounds.. why are people saying there are random cracks already though? are those just false rumors to make LG look bad? I'm so afraid the phone will break out of the blue..
I was on the phone at a party someone bumped into me and I dropped it onto a stone tile floor..I'm 6feet tall so that's a pretty decent drop..the only mark I have on the phone is a small nick in the bezel..both front and back are in tact..don't go throwing it around but id say its pretty solid :laugh:
So here is the first one from all the tests the new MotoX going to face in upcoming time :
And no prize for guessing that the Motorola impresses here.
http://www.androidauthority.com/moto-x-2014-htc-one-m8-iphone-6-others-take-bend-test-530024/
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So here is the first one from all the tests the new MotoX going to face in upcoming time :
And no prize for guessing that the Motorola impresses here.
http://www.androidauthority.com/moto-x-2014-htc-one-m8-iphone-6-others-take-bend-test-530024/
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The Moto X surprised me
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The Moto X surprised me
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But not me, if it would have failed the test, then it would have been a surprise for me.
The one Motorola Atrix2 I bought 2.5 years back is refusing to get retired and not allowing me to upgrade, its still like 2-3 months old phone despite of many a times drops
I don't say every Motorola is built like a brick, but majority of them are solidly built.
Anyone doing drop tests yet?
Eggs are more durable then the Moto X
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Anyone doing drop tests yet?
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You need a case for this phone!! I broke the screen again!! A small drop from my pocket to the ground shattered the bottom left of my phone. I've put all my phones through a lot of rough falls. The Moto X 2014 cant hang
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You need a case for this phone!! I broke the screen again!! A small drop from my pocket to the ground shattered the bottom left of my phone. I've put all my phones through a lot of rough falls. The Moto X 2014 cant hang
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Again? Sounds to me like you need to learn to take better care of your phones. Glass is glass, and will crack if it gets dropped, regardless of the phone it's on. It all depends on where the phone hits when it falls. I've only ever dropped two phones without a case on, the Galaxy S4 Active and the Moto X. The X took a much harder fall and all that happened was a couple scratches on the metal. The S4 however, got a crack in the screen. The moral of this story? Stop dropping your phones and you wont have to worry about the screen cracking.
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Again? Sounds to me like you need to learn to take better care of your phones. Glass is glass, and will crack if it gets dropped, regardless of the phone it's on. It all depends on where the phone hits when it falls. I've only ever dropped two phones without a case on, the Galaxy S4 Active and the Moto X. The X took a much harder fall and all that happened was a couple scratches on the metal. The S4 however, got a crack in the screen. The moral of this story? Stop dropping your phones and you wont have to worry about the screen cracking.
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Glass is glass and will break, but this phone has the glass up front above the bezel and it will always take the brunt of the fall if it falls on the side, corner, front you are screwed. I dropped mine of the couch (about 18 inches) an smashed the whole screen. My M8 has taken that fall of the couch cushion dozens of times without a scratch. This phone is very delicate for falls! get motocare! or get a really good case (which defeats the whole point of a customized phone)
The thin bezel on the sides don't help. They look great but without a thicker bezel like most phones have, there is less material to absorb shock which can make the Moto X screen a bit more susceptible to cracking or even shattering. I have never dropped any cell phone I have owned but I still have a case on this guy. Oh....and don't get me wrong....I love the thin bezel on the sides of the screen.
Finally could manage to drop it from standing position and surprisingly the glass remained intact :good:
Though there are very very minute dents on the aluminium frame, two on right side corners and a very tinny one on the center edge. But they are visible only when observed closely. Thankfully not showing up from normal viewing distance.
I used to be very scared about the glass due to its exposed kind of design unlike other Motorola devices I have used where glass is usually tucked inside the framing. But the Moto X 2 also came out safely from the accident despite of 'risky' looking design.
Hope this remains same and never gets damaged till I keep it, though no intention of dropping it again.
I've dropped mine from decent heights many times and I haven't even seen a scratch. Quite surprised how good it has held up. I usually don't drop my phones but the wood back is sooo slippery.
Watch this crazy wreck test, though screen was already shattered:
I got my phone on the 12/26 and on 12/30 I noticed that it's bent rather severely at the power button and going up.. I was able to bend it back mostly but the frame now has a small crease at the power button Not sure how it happened. Must be that the dual sim port weakened the frame. It seems to take less effort than in the Iphone 6 plus videos. Guys, be careful with your phones.
I am going to contact Sony about a replacement or repair since it only the frame that is affected. I'm not holding my breath since it's an international phone and not sold in the States.
Such a shame, I really love the phone.
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I got my phone on the 12/26 and on 12/30 I noticed that it's bent rather severely at the power button and going up.. I was able to bend it back mostly but the frame now has a small crease at the power button Not sure how it happened. Must be that the dual sim port weakened the frame. It seems to take less effort than in the Iphone 6 plus videos. Guys, be careful with your phones.
I am going to contact Sony about a replacement or repair since it only the frame that is affected. I'm not holding my breath since it's an international phone and not sold in the States.
Such a shame, I really love the phone.
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Do you put the phone in your pants/jeans pockets? I carry it in my pockets a lot (not with jeans), but haven't had any issues. It could be a D6633 thing.
I put it in my back pocket. I usually do remove before sitting. I have been doing the back pocket thing with all my Samsung phones (G2, G3, Note2) and my OnePlusOne without issue. I don't want to make a big deal out it with a Youtube video, just want it fixed and change my habit.
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I put it in my back pocket. I usually do remove before sitting. I have been doing the back pocket thing with all my Samsung phones (G2, G3, Note2) and my OnePlusOne without issue. I don't want to make a big deal out it with a Youtube video, just want it fixed and change my habit.
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It only takes one time sitting on it to bend... Most of those other phones are plastic, and will actually bend back into their previous state. Where as the metal band around the Z3 is malleable and will still where you bend it(If bent enough)
I don't think there's anything to be fixed, it's just a draw back of making phones so big and thing.
I keep mine in my front jeans pocket all of the time, although I do adjust it or take it out if I feel it's tight.
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I put it in my back pocket. I usually do remove before sitting. I have been doing the back pocket thing with all my Samsung phones (G2, G3, Note2) and my OnePlusOne without issue. I don't want to make a big deal out it with a Youtube video, just want it fixed and change my habit.
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I was able to bend the phone back and got scary pop as the glass reseated itself. The phone is now perfectly straight against a straight edge. Now the only complaint is the tiny crease at the power button. Hardly noticeable but I can feel it and I know its there. Looks like a bumper case or TPU case are in my future in order to hide the crease.
I will make sure my next phone has a strong mid plate like my Samsungs, OPO and OPPO have.
Just noticed that mine is bent too. Never got it in my pockets. Only in my jacket where there is enough space.
Just put the phone on a real flat surface and the bottom right end lifts slightly higher. Quite disappointed at that point for a phone at such a price, this shouldn't be happening!
I always put my phone on the front right pocket of my jeans and I have never bent any phone regardless of size (max is 5.2 inch) I'd say its more comfortable to put it in the front than in the back pockets. Never have to worry about sitting on it and quick access to it.
I don't like how news site emphasize "bendgate" and trying to make the phone and brand look bad. Every phone can bend depending on where it is placed.
*Of course assuming that you are using a case. I'm using a case for the Xperia Z3 and protects it fine from this bendgate phenomenon.
No bends on my Tmo Z3. I've had mine since late October, and it's an many pants pockets and much sitting.
Still no reply from Sony, it is the Holidays though.
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I always put my phone on the front right pocket of my jeans and I have never bent any phone regardless of size (max is 5.2 inch) I'd say its more comfortable to put it in the front than in the back pockets. Never have to worry about sitting on it and quick access to it.
I don't like how news site emphasize "bendgate" and trying to make the phone and brand look bad. Every phone can bend depending on where it is placed.
*Of course assuming that you are using a case. I'm using a case for the Xperia Z3 and protects it fine from this bendgate phenomenon.
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Me too.
And it fall down three times without any case for the phone. And nothing happen, no scratch, damage. Sometimes i put the phone out of the case.
I agree with you, about the news.
I have the 6603 and while on holiday it has bent in exactly the same way as in OPs post, though I keep mine in the front pocket. Pretty disappointed as it was in a case too, have never had another phone bend. Will be contacting my phone provider after the weekend to try get it replaced, as the bluetooth doesn't work either (never did)... Shame about the build quality on these first batches of phones.
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*Of course assuming that you are using a case. I'm using a case for the Xperia Z3 and protects it fine from this bendgate phenomenon.
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Kinda off topic but can I ask what case are you using?
gedster314 said:
I got my phone on the 12/26 and on 12/30 I noticed that it's bent rather severely at the power button and going up.. I was able to bend it back mostly but the frame now has a small crease at the power button Not sure how it happened. Must be that the dual sim port weakened the frame. It seems to take less effort than in the Iphone 6 plus videos. Guys, be careful with your phones.
I am going to contact Sony about a replacement or repair since it only the frame that is affected. I'm not holding my breath since it's an international phone and not sold in the States.
Such a shame, I really love the phone.
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You have pictures?
No, I was more concerned with straightening the phone. Next time I bend it, I'll take pics. I'm sure it will bend again.
same problem
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My phone also only 1 month old has bent and blue tooth not working. This phone is not fit for purpose if so many phones are bending. The frame is not strong enough for the size of the phone! will be contaxcting Sony and Kogan for remedy otherwise Dept of Consumer affairs. Plenty of evidence here this is a fault with this phone.
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My phone also only 1 month old has bent and blue tooth not working. This phone is not fit for purpose if so many phones are bending. The frame is not strong enough for the size of the phone! will be contaxcting Sony and Kogan for remedy otherwise Dept of Consumer affairs. Plenty of evidence here this is a fault with this phone.
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I have my phone since Ocotber, always rides in my front pocket. No bending so far. It's not the phone, it's the user.
It must be a joke. Can't see how it is possible to bend this phone. Unless you do it on purpose of course.
Its definitely possible, the thinner phones get this becomes a bigger problem as the side "wall" for lack of a better word is important in resisting bending in addition to the internal frame. The front pocket can also create a a significant enough force when walking to bend it people just don't realize this.
Plastic is actually much better than metal for such thin phones as it bounces back to form. This a price to pay when people perceive metal (in this case aluminium which bends easily) as somehow being "premium" over plastics. At least people aren't asking for granite phones lol.
I have the D6603, Today i found it bent and i attempted to bend it back and the metal frame (near the dock connection) just popped out, (Attached an image) Luckily i contacted the retailer and they said they'll replace/refund/repair it
Wow, you are lucky, I would not expect them to that. I have been in situations where I slept on the phone and tight jeans, so far no issues though I was worried.
Bummer too because I just set it up how I like it.
I was fishing today and I had my S5 in my pocket.
Anyway to my embarrassment I actually fell in the water when I was trying to untangle my lure from some fishing line some asshole had just cut off his rod and left in the water.
The thing is, whilst the S5 is supposed to be IP64 certified or whatever, mine has lost the flimsy bottom cover...
I was in the water with the phone in my front jeans pocket for about 15 seconds. The phone barely had any water on it (it was also in a full case) though it did seem that some had gotten into the charging port.
I took the battery out, and left things to dry. Got home about an hour later after wiping the phone down and I used a hairdryer on it for about 15 minutes (not letting it get too hot though). After that I threw it with its back off in a bowl filled with rice and put it next to a slightly warm heater.
My girlfriend said when she was trying to turn it off (I told her to take the battery out but she was panicking) that the hardware buttons (back and recents) weren't working any more. She also said that she noticed the date and time was wrong. It said April 24 2006 and the SIM card icon had a circle with a line through it (No reception). The home button she said worked fine though.
What chance do you think I have that the phone will work after it's been in the bowl of rice next to the heater?
EDIT: Found 3 packets of silica gel, I ripped those open and threw that stuff in there with the rice too.
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Bummer too because I just set it up how I like it.
I was fishing today and I had my S5 in my pocket.
Anyway to my embarrassment I actually fell in the water when I was trying to untangle my lure from some fishing line some asshole had just cut off his rod and left in the water.
The thing is, whilst the S5 is supposed to be IP64 certified or whatever, mine has lost the flimsy bottom cover...
I was in the water with the phone in my front jeans pocket for about 15 seconds. The phone barely had any water on it (it was also in a full case) though it did seem that some had gotten into the charging port.
I took the battery out, and left things to dry. Got home about an hour later after wiping the phone down and I used a hairdryer on it for about 15 minutes (not letting it get too hot though). After that I threw it with its back off in a bowl filled with rice and put it next to a slightly warm heater.
My girlfriend said when she was trying to turn it off (I told her to take the battery out but she was panicking) that the hardware buttons (back and recents) weren't working any more. She also said that she noticed the date and time was wrong. It said April 24 2006 and the SIM card icon had a circle with a line through it (No reception). The home button she said worked fine though.
What chance do you think I have that the phone will work after it's been in the bowl of rice next to the heater?
EDIT: Found 3 packets of silica gel, I ripped those open and threw that stuff in there with the rice too.
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i have had better results with letting it dry in open air, under the sun....take the back off (ofcourse the battery aswell) and place it under the sun with screen facing downwards.....let it dry for an hour or so...check
You need to leave it in a moisture absorbing product (dry rice/silica granules) for a LOT longer than an hour or so.....24 hours OR LONGER is more realistic. Preferably in an airing cupboard too......
It's going to take a lot longer to dry out than leaving it in the sun for an hour, as I assume you weren't able to start the drying process immediately and the water would have had time to get further into the phone.......
In cases like these, it's always best to let it dry for 'too' long than not long enough....
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Thanks. I let it dry for 15 hours, I guess it wasn't enough. Also yeah it took at least an hour for me to get the phone back to my apartment. The antenna seems to work fine but the hardware buttons are indeed screwed. I know I can use those on-screen hardware buttons if I toggle them somewhere from Xposed or an App or something. So not all is lost, but I'd really like my normal ones back. At this time I just guess that some water got into the bottom of the phone and shorted out the touch sensors or something. I wonder how much it would cost to get this repaired or if I could get away with having it replaced on warranty or something... Everything else on the phone seems to be fine. Screen, antenna, etc. it doesn't seem like any water got very far in.
Either way I am going to put it back in the rice/silica gel combo and see how that goes. I'll leave it in for 24 hours this time.
Okay so the capacitive buttons at the bottom (menu and back) are definitely broken from getting wet.
What chance do I have at returning the phone and just claiming that they just stopped working? Left the phone in rice and silica gel for what seems like forever and there doesn't seem to be any traces of moisture or water at all.
Worst case scenario Sammy sends the phone back and states that it was water damage and they won't fix it? Best case they fix it under warranty??
Highly unlikely it'll get fixed under warranty......
These phones have stickers placed 'strategically' inside them which change colour if they get wet.....Samsung will take one look at your phone and say.....yeah right......NO chance....
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Well I'm going to have a try at it, the white square that marks if it got wet down the bottom corner where the battery goes is completely white, and not red. Worst case they won't fix it for free. If it costs anything less than €100 to fix then I will get it fixed, otherwise I'll shop around and see if I can get a third party to fix it or sort out what my options are. I'm flashing it back to stock now and I'm going to clean the phone and then take it into the store and ask them to fix it.
Normally if they won't fix it under warranty they will send me a text message telling me how much it is going to cost to fix, and then if I want to pay. At the very least I should probably pay, as long as it isn't upwards of around €100 because it restores the resale value on my phone and I can make more than the amount back when I eventually sell it.
I really think Samdung should have put more thought into the bottom USB cover though. Mine and my friend's broke within about 2 months.
Anyway I'll post back on what happens later on.
If you can prove it drowned due to a faulty charger cover, you might have a case
I told the guy in the shop I bought it from what happened and he looked at it and said there is no sign of water damage. He said it should be repaired under warranty but not to 'quote' him on it happening. I'll report back in 2-3 weeks and say what happened.
I couldn't really complain about a 'faulty usb cover' when the whole damn thing fell off about 6 months ago.
I looked at a bunch of disassembly videos of the S5. Seems there are 3 main water damage stickers. 2 which are visible from the back. One behind the battery, one behind a little 'square' on the left-hand side of the phone. Both of mine were pure white. There's also another on the battery, except that mine didn't have a spot for it which was weird. The battery was a stock one I got from the same store.
That leaves 1 more which is in the middle of the phone behind the circuitry which I cannot see and I doubt very much that it is anything but pure white. So I think I have a good chance to have it replaced under warranty.
Also the bottom part of the phone's PCB is actually remove-and-replaceable. So if something there shorted out behind the capacitive buttons perhaps they will just throw that piece away and click in a new one.
Who knows.
Yeah, although this phone has ip67 protection, it doesnt do much with samsungs "engineering capabilities" - i have this phone too, and i can say, that this phone has at least 3 weak points, that makes ip67 to ip20 (first number is resistance to dust, second is resistance to water, higher is better) - so, the weak points are : 1) usb connection cover does not fully close, it is stuck out by like a 1-2mm, which i believe leaves some kind of space for water to flow in; 2) back cover does not fully stick to the back of the phone near the camera, you can press in that place to feel that there is empty space, which makes protection gum on back cover kind of useless, because it does not fully stick to the phone and will let water flow; 3) that corner of back cover, which was made to start removing back cover, does not fully stick to the phone, which leaves an empty space of about 1mm for the water to flow in. So to add everything up, even if s5 has ip67, i do not recommend testing it, because it only might work only with a new phone, but when you use your phone, some parts of phone gets out of the shape really fast, like usb connection cover, so it will decrease resistence to water a lot. Anyway, if you are above the water with your phone, i recommend doing good old trick, whick works with all phones - put your phone in a baloon or a condom - this protection will be 100 times better than anything that samsung will offer us in 1000 years.
I don't care if they tell me it is 100% waterproof, under 100 miles of water, for 100 years - I`ll still keep that theory for the day I accidentally drop it in a puddle - Im not going to purposely put any phone in water, no matter how 'safe' Im told it is
About a month ago, I knocked a pint of beer over my phone.......I had a moment when I started panicking about the phone......then I remembered IP67 and rinsed the phone off under the tap......then I started cursing myself for wasting a pint of beer........
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The outer area under the back cover is not sealed. May still contain some beer for emergency situations.
Lol.....that'd look really good wouldn't it?
Me walking down the street sucking my phone....
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I used the S5 plenty in the rain and I didn't worry putting it next to the sink or something. I don't think I ever actually fully wet it, but the screen did get covered in water at times in the rain. To me the IP67 rating was always something that meant the phone wasn't made of 'paper', in that it wouldn't be ruined in the rain, but I shouldn't exactly take a bath with it. I've read blogs etc. however that state that it is prone to some pretty nasty moisture damage if you take it into the shower or sauna with you. Though I suppose that is stating the obvious.
Point is, I think the water protection on the S5 is pretty garbage. On paper (no pun intended) it might look good that it is IP67, but let 1 drop into the bottom USB port with the cover off and you've lost both capacitive buttons as well as gained an issue that the phone constantly thinks that it is overheating after the screen turns off (funnily enough doesn't happen unless the screen goes black) and will try and reboot itself continuously. You can't even charge the phone because in a hilarious work of irony, it states that the battery is too cold!
Everything is only as strong as its weakest component and I found that usb cover to be about as weak as it gets. It only took 4 weeks for it to stop closing properly, and another 4 weeks for it to actually fall off... all just with regular use. Anyone is free to look around the web and see similar complaints of how cheap and flimsy the cover is. It would have made much more sense if it closed magnetically, or even if they had made the bottom cover replaceable so when they wore out, they could be replaced. To me it just feels like a typical scenario of Samdung trying to cover as many 'bases' as they can with regards to 'listed perks' without actually thinking about things from a long-term constructive or realistic point of view.
You can see from the S6 and the Note variants that they have abandoned further development towards water resistance and have saved it purely for their 'active' variants. I would have gotten one of those despite how ugly they are if they didn't come with a dumbed down CPU and Camera.
This will be my last Samsung phone anyway. I'll go the HTC or LG route after this.
The S5 is useless in the rain for me, a few drops on the screen and it thinks I'm pressing buttons, phone becomes self-aware and does what it wants until I turn the screen off and dry it, then it works until the next raindrop hits it
Lol.....as long as it doesn't turn into one of those nasty little decepticons out of Transformers you're fine.....
And the S5 will be my last Samsung device too.....not happy with certain aspects of the S6 that look certain to appear on further generations of Samsung devices in the future....
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Wouldn't surprise me if it did
Been a few times I've pulled it out of my pocket and it's been all set to call someone, just needed to hit the call button and I'd have the borrowers talking to me from my coat
I treat the ip67 rating like I treat the air bags in my car. It's nice to know is there in case of an accident but I'm not going out of my way to test it.
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I treat the ip67 rating like I treat the air bags in my car. It's nice to know is there in case of an accident but I'm not going out of my way to test it.
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Safety net, not a feature
Hey all,
I dented the back of my 6P because I'm an idiot. It has a hard shell case on it, but that apparently wasn't enough to protect the back of the phone from the hip-height metal post I walked into whilst talking to a friend. Smooth.
So now, I'm left with a smooth 1cm x 1cm dent, 1-3mm deep, just to the right of the fingerprint scanner. I've looked around, one option is a suction cup but I'm concerned about being able to fit it over the dent considering where the fingerprint sensor. Other options have included rapidly heating and cooling it, but obviously, it's a £500 phone full of electronics and magic (I assume), so that's just dumb.
Thoughts? I'd really like to progress to using a slickwrap instead of my case. At least in situations without inconspicuous metal posts.
You can buy replacement battery covers on eBay look original £20
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Do you have Nexus protect? If so that should be the first thing to look into. Otherwise, I think Huawei has a network of approved repair centers that you can consider.
In any cases, as unintuitive as this may sound, a soft case would be better than a hard case. A well-built TPU case (think Spigen or Adopted) absorbs and disperses any forces an impact has, while a hard case transfers the force straight to the fragile metal back.