I just got the Western Digital Livewire setup. My nexus 7 connects fine using a generic apple Ethernet adapter + OTG and connected straight into my cable modem. I tried to get Ethernet on the N7 through a port on the Powerline and it just would not recognize it. Has anyone else tried this or is it possible Android doesn't like to be hooked up to Ethernet that way? I'm pretty stumped.
Cybermen83 said:
I just got the Western Digital Powerline setup. My nexus 7 connects fine using a generic apple Ethernet adapter + OTG and connected straight into my cable modem. I tried to get Ethernet on the N7 through a port on the Powerline and it just would not recognize it. Has anyone else tried this or is it possible Android doesn't like to be hooked up to Ethernet that way? I'm pretty stumped.
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As to your question, I have no idea. I'm just curious why you're using ethernet instead of wifi. Is there any benefit? Not trolling, I'm just wondering what your motivation is. I must admit I've never imagined anyone would use a tablet on anything other than wireless.
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As to your question, I have no idea. I'm just curious why you're using ethernet instead of wifi. Is there any benefit? Not trolling, I'm just wondering what your motivation is. I must admit I've never imagined anyone would use a tablet on anything other than wireless.
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I've seen a few on the forum use Ethernet on their Nexus 7. It can give a more consistent internet speed in some cases and I think it drains less battery from the device. I had the Western Digital setup for some VOIP phone stuff so I thought I'd try it out. I don't have wifi.
Whether it's a powerline or not shouldn't matter as that's transparent to the connected device. It just sees an Ethernet link.
So N7 + OTG + USB Ethernet Adapter into the cable modem worked fine? N7 + USB Ethernet Adapter into the powerline did not work? What is the powerline connected to again? Is the cable modem just a "dumb" modem or is it a router as well with DHCP functionality?
Do any other devices work being connected through the powerline adapters?
Yes the N7+OTG+USB Ethernet works fine. Just started trying to network things as I have a need for it now. I see that I need to get a broadband router still. I have an Arris cable modem( TM402G/110) that I use with Xfinity Voice. I thought maybe it could have a router already in it but I guess not. Can anyone recommend a cheap broadband router, well low cost and good function?
Greetings all-
I am an IT professional and was thinking how handy it would be if I could just plug my phone into our wired ethernet network to test if a port, cable, switch, etc is working properly.
Goal: To plug my G2 into an ethernet cable and use one of the IP info apps (or packet sniffer apps) to do some network troubleshooting. Basically, I would want to know if DHCP is working on a port and what IP info the phone is getting.
I know they make ethernet testers that can be plugged into a wire for testing/troubleshooting purposes but these are expensive and can't do what an sniffer app can. Plus I always have my phone and can easily carry a few extra cables with me to make this happen.
Experiment: I bought thingy one and thingy two.
I plugged both of these into my phone and then connected the ethernet cable. I saw the link light come on, so I know there is at least some connectivity. However, I am not able to get any data to pass through to the phone. I set the phone to airplane mode (so it won't use any wireless networks) and try to access the internet and I get nothing. The G2 doesn't know how to use the ethernet connection.
Does anyone know how to make this work????
Thanks for any help you can provide!!
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Does anyone know how to make this work????
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Nope, but thinking it through should be possible. In short you just have to configure Android/Linux to use the 802.11 adapter on the USB port. Would be interested to know what the log files have when you plugged in to the G2. Suspect
1) You will need to be rooted
2) Would try get the LAN adapter working on a Linux desktop first then go back to the G2. If there are Win, Mac & Linux drivers should be possible why Android is 'limited' to ASIX AX88772 chipset needs to be understood though.
Good luck
You will have to write specific drivers for it. It isn't just convincing the kernel that your microusb port is your 802.11 port, because the technology is different. Ethernet doesn't have to worry about maintaining a connection over the air, but it does have to remember which wire is used for what. So it would need an actual driver written for it.
http://pockethernet.com/
Does anyone have experience running ethernet to microusb on android devices? i really want the nexus player but no ethernet is an absolute deal killer for me. i dont believe in streaming 1080p video over wifi. i know it only has usb 2.0 but that should support up to 480mb/s theoretically. perhaps using a device like this: http://www.amazon.com/Smays-Etherne...3460191&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+usb+to+ethernet
I agree.
I would love to buy one of these, but my AP is upstairs above my living room and I do not get the best WiFi at my entertainment center. I have a range extender downstairs, but it is at the other end of the house.
My ChromeCast often stutters (or just won't work) on anything more than 480p Video.
But I do have Gigabit Ethernet wired to a switch at my entertainment center.
I use USB Ethernet adapters with Android HDMI sticks all the time. The Android Sticks have either full Size USB, an Ethernet Connection, or I use an OTG cable.
I would think that the OTG cable and USB Ethernet adapter would work with the Nexus Player, unless they specifically took the drivers out. Common or Generic chipset USB Ethernet Drivers seem to be pretty well supported in most Android Firmwares.
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Sorry to double post, but if you are wondering how a USB Ethernet adapter would be connected to a Nexus Player, you would just need one of these:
http://www.dx.com/p/cy-u2-166-usb-f...-adapter-cable-black-15cm-205901#.VD_RJLYXw3A
A hacked USB Travel Hub can also be used.
thanks, i think i have a spare otg cable laying around somewhere. my only question is does the micro usb on the player get used for power or for plugging in peripheral devices such as the ethernet adapter?
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thanks, i think i have a spare otg cable laying around somewhere. my only question is does the micro usb on the player get used for power or for plugging in peripheral devices such as the ethernet adapter?
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I don't have any inside information, but as far as I can see, it is powered through the micro USB. (Just like ChromeCast).
That is why you would need a cable like the one I linked to. Notice that it has a separate micro USB female for Power only.
Note also that there is another post in this forum "What Nexus Player won't Do", and Ethernet is not mentioned as removed in that list, so that may give some hope that it is in there.
The settings menus would also have to know how to allow you to configure the new network interface.
ChromeCast (stock ROM) does not support USB Ethernet, but of course the ChromeCast is a much simpler, no-UI device.
We will just have to wait until they are in peoples hands.
Frankly, I have to say that I am out. There are many good Android Set-top boxes out there that have a full selection of ports, possibly better processors, and are cheaper.
By the time you buy the Nexus Player, a wireless keyboard (which you are going to want), the game controller, USB adapters, and Ethernet dongle, you are going to be in the $200 range, and you are going to have a mess of wires and adapters -- No thanks.
I'll "stick" with my "stick", or upgrade to a newer Chinese Android STB that has a decent processor and all the ports.
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I don't have any inside information, but as far as I can see, it is powered through the micro USB. (Just like ChromeCast).
That is why you would need a cable like the one I linked to. Notice that it has a separate micro USB female for Power only.
Note also that there is another post in this forum "What Nexus Player won't Do", and Ethernet is not mentioned as removed in that list, so that may give some hope that it is in there.
The settings menus would also have to know how to allow you to configure the new network interface.
ChromeCast (stock ROM) does not support USB Ethernet, but of course the ChromeCast is a much simpler, no-UI device.
We will just have to wait until they are in peoples hands.
Frankly, I have to say that I am out. There are many good Android Set-top boxes out there that have a full selection of ports, possibly better processors, and are cheaper.
By the time you buy the Nexus Player, a wireless keyboard (which you are going to want), the game controller, USB adapters, and Ethernet dongle, you are going to be in the $200 range, and you are going to have a mess of wires and adapters -- No thanks.
I'll "stick" with my "stick", or upgrade to a newer Chinese Android STB that has a decent processor and all the ports.
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yah i might just pick up the amazon fire tv. the only thing i am gonna use it for is xbmc/kodi and plex. maybe some youtube, netflix, and light web browsing if that.
Since it is relevant to this thread (at least a bit), I'm going to go ahead and post a link to an article on my website:
http://linuxslate.com/Guide_Android_Stick_TV_Box.html
I am NOT trying to dissuade anybody from buying the Nexus player. If you have good wifi and you don't want the headaches associated with a Chinese media player, the Nexus Player is an excellent choice.
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thanks, i think i have a spare otg cable laying around somewhere. my only question is does the micro usb on the player get used for power or for plugging in peripheral devices such as the ethernet adapter?
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The official page says:
18W DC power
HDMI out ([email protected])
Micro-USB 2.0
So that's a separate power jack, and then USB for OTG or firmware updates or whatever.
Note that you don't want to get too new of a dongle, because if this doesn't have the absolute latest Linux kernel it might not support some of the newer gigabit dongles.
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Does anyone have experience running ethernet to microusb on android devices? i really want the nexus player but no ethernet is an absolute deal killer for me. i dont believe in streaming 1080p video over wifi. i know it only has usb 2.0 but that should support up to 480mb/s theoretically. perhaps using a device like this: http://www.amazon.com/Smays-Etherne...3460191&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+usb+to+ethernet
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I can stream 1080p @ full Blu-Ray bitrate no problem..the problem is not the technology but likely your implementation. Also USB2 is limited to 256mb/s after overhead is subtracted. Thats far less than 802.11AC can do, I get a 890mb connection with a $15 .AC adapter on one of my PC's.
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I agree.
I would love to buy one of these, but my AP is upstairs above my living room and I do not get the best WiFi at my entertainment center. I have a range extender downstairs, but it is at the other end of the house.
My ChromeCast often stutters (or just won't work) on anything more than 480p Video.
But I do have Gigabit Ethernet wired to a switch at my entertainment center.
A hacked USB Travel Hub can also be used.
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If you have a lan drop and switch at your Entertainment center then your highest performance option is to add a access point to that switch, not to use a USB>Ethernet.
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yah i might just pick up the amazon fire tv. the only thing i am gonna use it for is xbmc/kodi and plex. maybe some youtube, netflix, and light web browsing if that.
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I'm thinking about trying out the NexusPlayer to replace our FireTV...the FireTV is pretty great but its buggy and nobody seems to be trying to fix the bugs. Hulu loves to crash and has various other playback problems that we experience more than once a day (simply stops playing, or freezes, sometimes after a commercial the screen just goes black with a network logo[like ABC] but the audio is playing), Netflix also occasionally crashes back to the FireTV homescreen, Plex works ok sometimes but has trouble others, the plus is that it has Wifi+Ethernet+Optical. We previously had a Roku3 which was turtle slow compared to the FireTV. I should add that these bugs are widespread and common to many people, these are not issues limited to me or just a few people.
sluflyer06;
I do nit disagree with anything you are saying, however:
I do not see the point of having a wireless AP right next to ever node on my network.
Doesn't that make the "wireless " part nonsensical?.
2nd, I have Gigabit USB Ethernet adapters that use USB 3.0.
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sluflyer06;
I do nit disagree with anything you are saying, however:
I do not see the point of having a wireless AP right next to ever node on my network.
Doesn't that make the "wireless " part nonsensical?.
2nd, I have Gigabit USB Ethernet adapters that use USB 3.0.
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Well if your wireless is weak in that area, wouldn't a AP there benefit your other devices (laptops, tablets, phones?)? I agree that you don't NEED a acesspoint at every drop but we will always have a signifigant # of devices that cannot be wired these days so if you happen to have a drop in a room or area with weak WiFi it seems like the perfect opportunity to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Also in regards to your USB3 adapter, it won't do you any good with the NexusPlayer because it only has a USB2.0 port...still not a restriction for video though...265 is way above even the highest bitrate blu-ray.
Quite shocked that:
It's not USB 3.0 OTG
That it doesn't have Ethernet at all, maybe a limitation of the Intel SoC? I know the Snapdragon 805 and friends have USB 3.0 OTG...
I wonder how the Intel SoC will play out. Intel is late to this party...
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Quite shocked that:
It's not USB 3.0 OTG
That it doesn't have Ethernet at all, maybe a limitation of the Intel SoC? I know the Snapdragon 805 and friends have USB 3.0 OTG...
I wonder how the Intel SoC will play out. Intel is late to this party...
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The ARK page (Intel's CPU library) shows USB 3.0 (and up to 4GB of RAM, while we're at it). Maybe it's a cost thing? No Ethernet is likely the same story. "If you really need it, get a dongle" they'd might say.
Everything about this box seems like Google is targeting it as a lowest-common-denominator device. Being Nexus, it's still somewhat of a developer device. "Make sure your apps can run on this, and you'll be good everywhere." Actually, that's possibly a big part of why the first Android TV device has an Intel chip. Force developers to start supporting x86, and then the TV manufacturers can put any chip they'd like into their TV.
Plus, this lets Google sell it for cheap, and then if other manufacturers want to come along and put together some Android TV luxury box with HDMI in and a USB 3 hub and 4 GB RAM and an eSATA port, go ahead.
An ethernet to USB adapter that worked
Just thought I would share a solution that worked for me.
I live in an apartment building in Manhattan that has a few hundred units and four other similarly sized buildings all within 100 yards plus a muli-plex movie house in even closer proximity.
I have a top-rated AC router and have run wi-fi analyzers to select the least crowded (and non-overlapping) 2.4 and 5 Ghz channels. 2.4 Ghz is essentially useless for streaming multimedia. Even with the 5 Ghz channel, casting music involves several buffering time-outs each minute.
Knew I had to go the USB to ethernet cable adapter route:
- first, I tried a too good-to-be true low-priced adapter on eBay. When plugged into the NP, an internal red LED light shined brightly through the white housing (almost like a Christmas light), but nothing.
- second, I tried a gigabyte adapter that stated in its product description that it was compatible out-of-the box with the NP. Bought it from directly from the vendor on Amazon. Came in brand new packaging and the adapter (plus included dongle cable, disc and instructions) all top-notch. Everything shouted quality compared to the first adapter ... but it also didn't work for me. I hoped it would and I hope it works for others who buy it. Just couldn't figure out why it wouldn't work for me. I tried what others suggested about unplugging the NP and rebooting the device to the root screen (holding the button on the bottom while powering and going through the menus). Also tried it with a PC. I just don't know what I did or didn't do right or why otherwise it wouldn't work.
- third, I looked at the pictures on the Internet depicting actual working adapters with the NP. Saw it was a SMC adapter. Then in a Reddit, I saw the model number mentioned. It is the: SMC Networks SMC2209USB/ETH 10/100 Mbps USB Ethernet Adapter. Bought it for $25 dollars on Amazon (see: amazon.com/gp/product/B00009967F/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).
Worked right out of the box! Just plugged it in (it evens comes with its own dongle cable).
One thing I realized from this, what people suggest "should" work with the NP and what IN ACTUAL FACT have been tested personally to work are different. I'm not a paid endorser of any company's products. I hope others share product names and model numbers of other adapters that they know from personal experience to also work out-of-the-box.
And as far as the buffering problems I had -- gone. The NP is actually usable now for multimedia content. I sure hope Google includes an Ethernet port when it comes out with a second generation NP.
dynadock?
Just wondering if anyone had tried something like a toshiba dynadock?
its powered, has multiple usb ports and ethernet! Would be great if it worked as i have access to them!:fingers-crossed:
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Just wondering if anyone had tried something like a toshiba dynadock?
its powered, has multiple usb ports and ethernet! Would be great if it worked as i have access to them!:fingers-crossed:
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Thank you for the brilliant idea. I happen to have a Toshibe Dynadock V2. Plugged it in and ethernet came straight up in the settings. I guess we can add this to the list of devices that work.
Yes, Attaching a OTC cable to USB Ethernet Adapter totally works for me! I can see the connection made in the network settings (ip address and domain connection under "Ethernet").
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Same issue here.
Nexus Player OTG usb is completely disabled.
No mouse, keyboard, Rii or Flash drive 2.0 or 3.0 ...
Nada, null, running Oreo 8.0
I recently purchased the OTG cable on amazon, the first result/best selling $7... No lights come up on the usbs or any form of power going through. While ADB works fine
I'm desperate so I will root it but how to fix with root?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LLUEJFU/
This ethernet/USB thing has worked great on my nexus player. Connected an SSD, put my HD Homerun on the same wired LAN, it's a great little DVR/timeshifting box.
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Yes, Attaching a OTC cable to USB Ethernet Adapter totally works for me! I can see the connection made in the network settings (ip address and domain connection under "Ethernet").
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I managed to get it working too
Working fine here too. I have a USB ethernet hub connected by OTG cable.
Use it for wired internet and USB mouse.
Hello everyone,
I recently wanted to upgrade my USB hub. Originally, I had purchased this hub for my Nexus Player from Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L32UUJK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00 . This is the one I was going to replace. The reason I wanted to replace it was the ethernet was only 10/100. I have 140mbps connection at my house, so the hub was limiting my speed to 90-93mbps. The extra 20-30mbps I would gain is huge and I think it's worth chasing if it's possible. The wireless AC does test at 130-140mbps, but it's wireless and I've found that even plugged into a wired connect at 90mbps is better than the WIFI AC 5ghz @ 140mbps.
I did some research and searched reviews for a replacement USB hub with a gigabit ethernet port. Most if not all gigabit usb hubs are usb 3.0. Our NP only has 2.0 as you know, so I was limited to my selection. I came across this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IJU0K2Q?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00 . The reviews for this hub and the chipset for the ethernet in the hub claimed it supported Android OS. The only issue was the there was not a Micro USB hub available by this company. So I bought a Micro USB otg that allowed me to power the usb ports so it would be able to be used with the usb 3.0 hub. Here's the otg cable I bought. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FGKXY9S?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00
So I hooked it up yesterday, and did some testing. I noticed that my DL speeds were capped at 8mbps, as well as my upload was lower than normal too. So I rebooted etc. After not being able to figure out why, I read the manual and did some google searching. The manual says the ethernet chip may have compatibility issues for some systems to use the gigabit speed/driver. So it came with a CD and also gave their website to dl the drivers. The issue is the drivers are not an adroid apk, app, or zip file I can flash. After more investigating a possible fix, I found the ethernet chip manufacture has drivers for Android on their website. AWESOME!
Except they needed to be compiled and built into the kernal/boot.img . This is where my issue lies. I am not savvy enough yet to input the drivers into the boot.img/kernel. I wanted to know if someone would help?
The boot.img file I need is the one with Lollirock 2.1., and it's attached to this thread. I have PM'd Zulu to see what he thinks, but I wanted to see if someone else may be able to help as well.
I wanted to know if someone could put this driver into the boot.img and post/send the boot.img back to me? I am trying to see if this is the fix I need to get this USB hub to work and stop limiting my bandwidth. If it doesn't work, I can send it back to amazon, however there is a time limit on when I can send it back before I have to keep it. Can anyone help? Maybe there's another way?
Here's the website from the ethernet manufacturing company with the driver that needs to be inputted into the boot.img. http://www.asix.com.tw/products.php?op=pItemdetail&PItemID=131;71;112
Here's a direct link to the file to dl the driver V1.14.2. http://www.asix.com.tw/FrootAttach/driver/AX88179_178A_LINUX_DRIVER_v1.14.2_SOURCE.tar.gz
EDIT- Fixed. It was a cheap OTG cable.
a question?
I have oneplus 6t and i have had to tried to connect to internet via OTG but i couldn't make it work, and I heard that 6T is does not support hardwired connection, anyone knows anything about it?
OTG to USB hub with Ethernet did not work for me. The USB ports on the hub worked, but not the Ethernet. I don't think the phone supports it.
Jager said:
OTG to USB hub with Ethernet did not work for me. The USB ports on the hub worked, but not the Ethernet. I don't think the phone supports it.
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that's weird cause almost every phone you can do that except this one.
I like to play a game in my phone but just using WIFI is not that realiable.