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US Tablet User - Can I get to Nougat?

Hi all, I'm a US user with W09 and would like to get it to Nougat - I have read the entire "Update to EMUI 5.0" thread and there appeared to be several possible routes, but most were regarding the European version.
I have a US Wi-Fi model and have no allegiance in keeping it a US one, if there's a way to remove the regional aspect to gain access to the update (BETA or otherwise).
I would greatly appreciate if someone who has some experience with or is very confident of the correct path would shed some light for me.
Thank you!

Have you tried update via Firmware Finder? Witch firmware version do you have now?
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33adi said:
Have you tried update via Firmware Finder? Witch firmware version do you have now?
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I've just finished reading the entire thread linked above that mentions that method a number of times, so I'm certainly familiar with it, but haven't tried it because sprinkled throughout that thread are plenty of issues encountered. Also, there's no mention of US hardware/firmware specific instructions.
I'm on W09 as mentioned in the OP - thanks for the reply!

Install Firmware Finder from Playstore and post a screenshot with firmwares that appear there.
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33adi said:
Install Firmware Finder from Playstore and post a screenshot with firmwares that appear there.
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I'm away from my tablet at the moment but will do later on when I get home.

We will see after that what we can do. I have updated my tablet to Nougat, but I have BTV-DL09 (4G European version).
To change region I think you have to unlock bootloader.
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33adi said:
We will see after that what we can do. I have updated my tablet to Nougat, but I have BTV-DL09 (4G European version).
To change region I think you have to unlock bootloader.
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Here's what's in firmware finder @33adi

What's the advantage to switching from US to EU roms? I unlocked, rooted, enabled 5ghz band for wifi, and now only need nougurt but much like the original poster not sure the best route.
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gaidin43 said:
What's the advantage to switching from US to EU roms? I unlocked, rooted, enabled 5ghz band for wifi, and now only need nougurt but much like the original poster not sure the best route.
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The advantage of removing the US stock rom is that the European one has a beta available that is very stable. My thread is seeking someone who's confident of the steps to 1st going European & 2nd installing nougat once there, as there was some debate of complexity to doing even that.

I've been through exactly what you are wanting to do @dutchdoggs54 . Unfortunately I can't tell you step by step how I got to where I'm at.
I was on W09128BXXX out of the box . Read the topic that you have linked in your first post and decided to do it using firmware finder to force the update to Nougat as they described. It actually went very well and Nougat worked great with the exception of Bluetooth not working.
I have to say during the upgrade when it booted into recovery and it was TWRP I was concerned. Believe it had an error but it worked and replaced TWRP as I recall with a stock recovery.
So after all that I decided I wanted my tablet branded as a BTV-W09C100B006. Below is the topic where a member thought they bricked their tablet.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m3/how-to/bricked-m3-btv-w09-t3612699
They were given directions to download the Full update package for the version I just mentioned.
This member got their tablet working again and in the process found that 5Ghz wifi is enabled on C100B006 by default.
That was the main reason I rooted my tablet.
I followed the directions knowing I force install a different version of Nougat from your link.
Downloaded the full version software and dropped it in the dload folder on my US tablet and did the upgrade.
Tablet rebooted and shortly after it rebooted again going to recovery (I tried may times to boot). Don't recall the error but after I unlocked my bootloader again it reset the tablet and I was able to access it again. I did relock the bootloader so I can see updates without any problems after that.
In the end I got what I was after. My tablet shows as a BTV-W09C100B006 and can check for updates.
5Ghz wifi is enabled by default. As I said I relocked the bootloader so I'm not rooted. Overall it's works so well I'll wait for Nougat to get released and then do the official upgrade. After the scare of booting to recovery it was worth every nervous minute of it.

Try to talk to OP from this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/...-root-t3374068
Maybe he can make this app available to Mediapad M3, then changing OEMINFO will be easy.
I posted a question there.

No luck
Ok, so I tried following @Samavb's great instructions and guidance in the other thread last night. Made it all the way to the point where he says to install 009 from the Huawei website - got it downloaded and loaded up on the tablet only to find that it wouldn't install because the 009 file on the website is BTV-DL09 not the BTV-W09 version a US tablet would need.
So I got frustrated and tried installing the B301 build that appeared on firmware finder when I was on the W09-006 build...this was nougat and was cool but no keyboard and the play store wouldn't install anything, so I was forced to revert back to 006.
So, long story short, hours of work have confirmed that there doesn't appear to be a way to get a US tablet to fully functional Nougat at the moment. If there was a 009 or 010 build like Samavb mentions for the US model, maybe it would work, but those aren't anywhere to be found - firmware finder, russian site he mentions or otherwise.
So, I'll happily sit on 006 and wait for a US OTA update. That is unless anyone can tell me exactly how to make this US model into a European model.

Same boat as original poster. US w09 on build c128b003. Firmware finder just finds the same version. Anyone know when there might be a us version update released. I thought it was supposed to be may so have been waiting patiently.....but may is over.

dr_pepper said:
Same boat as original poster. US w09 on build c128b003. Firmware finder just finds the same version. Anyone know when there might be a us version update released. I thought it was supposed to be may so have been waiting patiently.....but may is over.
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In Firmware Finder select the menu in the top left corner. (3 bars)
Right below your model number, select change model and enter BTV-W09C100 and then search.
You should see B301 and it's a full OTA. However, as I understand it this is just a beta/test release.
Only issue I had with it, bluetooth didn't work. Seeing as how I don't use it, didn't bother me.
I highly recommend you fall back to the other topic about forcing the upgrade to Nougat.
Only difference from my tablet and yours. I was on C128B002. I had already rooted and couldn't get that update.

Also US 64gb version here and hoping for an update to Nougat and EM5. Would love to see it!
Huawei have been quite attentive for updates in other markets which is great. Too bad the non-LTE version in US doesn't get the same love.
Buying this tablet was a roll of the dice for me, banking on the hope that Huawei would be attentive to software updates (for all markets) and custom ROMs could serve as back up/enjoyment. This tablet has solid hardware and with another launcher it is decent.
Sadly, my experiment to try out a non-Nexus device without the latest (or close to pure) Android version is coming to an end. The last M3 sold on Swappa went for around $300.

johninsf said:
Also US 64gb version here and hoping for an update to Nougat and EM5. Would love to see it!
Huawei have been quite attentive for updates in other markets which is great. Too bad the non-LTE version in US doesn't get the same love.
Buying this tablet was a roll of the dice for me, banking on the hope that Huawei would be attentive to software updates (for all markets) and custom ROMs could serve as back up/enjoyment. This tablet has solid hardware and with another launcher it is decent.
Sadly, my experiment to try out a non-Nexus device without the latest (or close to pure) Android version is coming to an end. The last M3 sold on Swappa went for around $300.
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I just updated the firmware finder app and it now shows the full ota for nougat. It wasn't found until I updated the app.

purple lady said:
I just updated the firmware finder app and it now shows the full ota for nougat. It wasn't found until I updated the app.
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Excellent and great news! Are you in the US and have the wifi only version?

johninsf said:
Excellent and great news! Are you in the US and have the wifi only version?
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Yep.

Thanks Purple Lady!
Too anyone in this thread, I want to install the latest version available in Firmware Finder.
When I select download, I get 3 file choices. Which should I pick to download then what are the steps to update? Please point me to the best post to reference as there are a few.

johninsf said:
Thanks Purple Lady!
Too anyone in this thread, I want to install the latest version available in Firmware Finder.
When I select download, I get 3 file choices. Which should I pick to download then what are the steps to update? Please point me to the best post to reference as there are a few.
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from what i gather. if you're going from MM to Nougat, you need to install the Full OTA. for that, there are 2 files, you will need both of them. from there, i'm not sure.

How to downgrade ZC520TL from N to M

Hello all,
this is my first post on XDA so I hope I am doing everything according to the rules. If I do something wrong, apologies and I will do better next time.
So, I recently purchased a Zenfone 3 MAX in the US in a hurry out of necessity. So I was quite annoyed to find out that ASUS has hidden the ability to format the SD card as internal memory. However I found out there is a way to un-hide the feature via adb. But the procedure I found is tested to work with Marshmallow, and I had already updated the phone to Nougat. Indeed, the adb command has had no effect on my phone.
So, now I am trying to downgrade back to Marshmallow. I am definitely a newbie to this world, but I have been able to find this (https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-3/help/how-to-downgrade-zenfone-3-nougat-to-t3573241) thread, which contains a link to a downgrading procedure (https://www.asus.com/zentalk/thread-164531-1-3.html). However, it is not for ZC520TL but for ZE520KL.
I was hoping I could use the same procedure for my phone, if I find the right firmware, but I am not sure I have been looking in the right places. The ASUS website has various firmware versions for the US and I assume the oldest one is Marshmallow (Version US-13.1.4.43), but the procedure above requires two different firmware files and I do not know enough to understand what is the difference and where I can find them.
Anyone can shed some light on this for me?
Thank you

Ityboy said:
Hello all,
this is my first post on XDA so I hope I am doing everything according to the rules. If I do something wrong, apologies and I will do better next time.
So, I recently purchased a Zenfone 3 MAX in the US in a hurry out of necessity. So I was quite annoyed to find out that ASUS has hidden the ability to format the SD card as internal memory. However I found out there is a way to un-hide the feature via adb. But the procedure I found is tested to work with Marshmallow, and I had already updated the phone to Nougat. Indeed, the adb command has had no effect on my phone.
So, now I am trying to downgrade back to Marshmallow. I am definitely a newbie to this world, but I have been able to find this (https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-3/help/how-to-downgrade-zenfone-3-nougat-to-t3573241) thread, which contains a link to a downgrading procedure (https://www.asus.com/zentalk/thread-164531-1-3.html). However, it is not for ZC520TL but for ZE520KL.
I was hoping I could use the same procedure for my phone, if I find the right firmware, but I am not sure I have been looking in the right places. The ASUS website has various firmware versions for the US and I assume the oldest one is Marshmallow (Version US-13.1.4.43), but the procedure above requires two different firmware files and I do not know enough to understand what is the difference and where I can find them.
Anyone can shed some light on this for me?
Thank you
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Ask for it. A user in Canada obtained the downgrade. Please write in this thread and share it.
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=165621&extra=page=1&page=2&mobile=2

MezzaLuna said:
Ask for it. A user in Canada obtained the downgrade. Please write in this thread and share it.
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Thanks for your reply.
I have looked at the thread you linked, but I could not see any reference to someone successfully getting their phone downgraded to M by Asus. If anything some people in there stress how unhelpful is Asus with the whole thing. So I am not any closer to the solution than I was before.

Ityboy said:
Thanks for your reply.
I have looked at the thread you linked, but I could not see any reference to someone successfully getting their phone downgraded to M by Asus. If anything some people in there stress how unhelpful is Asus with the whole thing. So I am not any closer to the solution than I was before.
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Look at this for more info.
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/thread-172018-1-1.html
By the way the Zenfone 3 max was a total mess for me so I used my right of withdrawal on the amazon.

I was successfull in downgrading my ZE552KL to M using the raw firmware
Visit this link and download the appropriate raw firmware for your phone
https://vnrom.net/cac-dong-may-khac/asus/

vishal1286 said:
I was successfull in downgrading my ZE552KL to M using the raw firmware
Visit this link and download the appropriate raw firmware for your phone
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Thanks for the link. I have looked around and found a firmware for the ZC520TL. However I am not sure it is the right one for me because it is my understanding that I need a firmware whose name starts with UL, rather than WW. I am not sure what would happen if I used firmware of a different zone. Moreover, I have been able to recover the right firmware from the ASUS website. What I need is the "RAW firmware" as defined in the procedure I have linked in my original post. But I don't know how that is different from the firmware. As I said, I am very new to this world.

Ityboy said:
Thanks for the link. I have looked around and found a firmware for the ZC520TL. However I am not sure it is the right one for me because it is my understanding that I need a firmware whose name starts with UL, rather than WW. I am not sure what would happen if I used firmware of a different zone. Moreover, I have been able to recover the right firmware from the ASUS website. What I need is the "RAW firmware" as defined in the procedure I have linked in my original post. But I don't know how that is different from the firmware. As I said, I am very new to this world.
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WW stands for global firmware, however I am not sure what UL is for. You can contact the person in that website asking for your firmware. They will help.

newbie question

Hi there, first post on the site, so "Hi"
I have a Samsung Tab S2 (SM-T710) this is running Lillopod 5.0.2
Is it possible to upgrade this into Oreo? if so, is it a case of root it, then odin flash it? Are there any helpful guides / tips?
Thanks

danc_73 said:
Hi there, first post on the site, so "Hi"
I have a Samsung Tab S2 (SM-T710) this is running Lillopod 5.0.2
Is it possible to upgrade this into Oreo? if so, is it a case of root it, then odin flash it? Are there any helpful guides / tips?
Thanks
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Suggest you use Odin to flash stock Nougat first and give that a go. It's pretty good and I've felt no reason to root just to get Oreo.

Masteryates said:
Suggest you use Odin to flash stock Nougat first and give that a go. It's pretty good and I've felt no reason to root just to get Oreo.
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Thanks for the reply.
Is that the Samsung wrapped Nougat or the raw version..... I am hoping to get away from some of the Samsung bloat..

In your current Lollipop, the mixture of Samsung Bloat and a bad version of Android, (5.0.2 was a car crash.) makes it an awful experience.
In Android 6 & 7, Samsung have really reduced the bloat and the underlying OS, is significantly better. If you install stock and spend half an hour cleaning the bloat, its a really consistent experience on the S2 and I've not experienced any slowdown. :victory:
When thinking about root and Oreo, just remember this hardware is getting old now and wasn't exactly fast 3 years ago. Battery life on the 8" version isn't great due to its small size. As Samsung have been good at providing security updates, I really can't see enough gains in the whole rooting experience. :angel:

Many thanks for your help........ I will take the simple route via odin. I will see how I get along

Upgrading GT-P5110 with newer Android version

Hi
Was hoping to get some guidance from anyone who has successfully upgraded the Android version on their Samsung GT-P5110. My daughter needs to install educational software that requires Android 5 or above (due to COVID/Home Schooling). Id love to buy a new tablet but Ive lost my job so hoping to get this old tablet working. Has anyone succesfully upgraded this model? Any help with instructions and links to correct versions of Odin, TWRP and OS Image would be most appreciated. Ive got some tips from this thread but not sure where to get the correct file versions..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75777254&postcount=1046
Thanks
Angela

Tablet is useless to me now. YouTube no longer works keeps asking to update

How to downgrade from 10 to 9? :/

Hi, first I promise I'm not crazy, I just don't like some changes 10 has made regarding the operations of some of my favorite, have-to-have apps as well as how some apps interact with other apps. Second, I do apologize if this is posted elsewhere. I tried searching in several areas for this tab and couldn't find anything about downgrading.
So, here are some specs I think are usually asked for :fingers-crossed::
Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e (2019) - SM-T720NZDLXAR (USA version) (Not rooted because I'm too scared I'll kill the darned thing beyond resurrection.)
Kernel version:
4.9.186-18864194
#2 Fri Jul 17 17:31:12 2020
Build number:
QP1A.190711.020.T720XXU1BTG3
Service provider SW ver.
SAOMC_SM_T720_OXM_XAR_QQ_0001
R52MA18A3SD
XAR/XAR
Please LMK if anything else is needed.
The upgrade was done a few days ago. I searched the net for stock firmware but couldn't identify for sure if any I found would work with my specific model. I readily admit to not having the knowledge to start experimenting first and begging for help after I've blown it up, or bricked it . I'll just skip to the begging. And I'm usually pretty good at following directions when they're in basic layman's terms.
TIA for any assistance and/or guidance offered and please accept my attempts at humor in the nature they're intended. :silly:

Hello, I'm thinking about downgrading my s5e to use Linux on Dex as my tablet came with Android 10 which doesn't work with it.
If you're still in need of these instructions, I can record my steps for you when I attempt the downgrade.

Beninjam9 said:
Hello, I'm thinking about downgrading my s5e to use Linux on Dex as my tablet came with Android 10 which doesn't work with it.
If you're still in need of these instructions, I can record my steps for you when I attempt the downgrade.
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So is this possible? Also, are you saying tablets that originally shipped with Android 9 are now shipping with android 10 instead??? Wtf I don't want android 10!
I don't mind unlocking my bootloader as soon as I get my tablet, but I really need android 9 and not 10. Would you mind telling me how to downgrade?

Beninjam9 said:
Hello, I'm thinking about downgrading my s5e to use Linux on Dex as my tablet came with Android 10 which doesn't work with it.
If you're still in need of these instructions, I can record my steps for you when I attempt the downgrade.
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Did you ever do the downgrade? You mind sharing the details of how you did it for a noob?