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Hello guys
I'm Marco and I'm searching for a 249$ tablet, the market doesn't offer so much, I found Nexus7 and Galaxy tab 2 7.0.
Nexus should be a fine product but I read a lot about a terrible screen separation issue, was it fixed by Asus in the last batch ?
I couldn't tolerate a similar epic fail, and I'm not interesting in fixing it by myself.
Instead Samsung seems to soffer of death grip problem with wifi reception.
I come from a terrible experience with a chinese tablet, but I can't think asus build quality is lower !!!
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Hello guys
I'm Marco and I'm searching for a 249$ tablet, the market doesn't offer so much, I found Nexus7 and Galaxy tab 2 7.0.
Nexus should be a fine product but I read a lot about a terrible screen separation issue, was it fixed by Asus in the last batch ?
I couldn't tolerate a similar epic fail, and I'm not interesting in fixing it by myself.
Instead Samsung seems to soffer of death grip problem with wifi reception.
I come from a terrible experience with a chinese tablet, but I can't think asus build quality is lower !!!
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I got mine in January, function wise it's okay... No software problems. I have 2 hardware problems though.
Screen lift, just a little. Doesn't impair any functions of the tablet and since i use a case with it the problem does not develop further. Probably pressure from the sides when holding the tablet with hand causes high pressure at the surrounding mounts, causing it to lose rigidity after time and loosens the screen, after getting a solid case it's solved for me.
The speakers started cracking about a week ago on high volume though, so this means i need a headphone around me. Doesn't affect me much too as it's pointless trying to listen at loud volumes outdoor with such small speakers. Does get a little annoying at times at home when i have to find my tiny earbuds => other than that no problems...
It's just like buying a cheap yet good car to me, while the performance is great mayb i'll suffer from build quality such as crakling dashboard or somethin. Logic is, if the a better pair of speakers were to add $1 of production cost per tablet, 4 million units produced will mean $4million less in earnings, which will mean a more expensive tablet anyway so there's always a tradeoff when something is cheap... I can find anything more perfect than the nexus 7 for its price tho, but that's just me...
Another view is that, if they produced a product with a 0.5% of failure rate, 4 million being sold so far will mean problems with 20,000 devices. Which is many, yet at the same time actually little, and acceptable for the price, with a development r&d time of only half a year, and for me at least. Lol! They could have done it better tho after all warranty claims mean cost to asus and google.Cheers.
Hello all,
I wonder if I may ask your collective opinion. I've been an HTC user since the Desire and have had a One X for the last 2 years. I'm due to upgrade in a month on EE 4G in the UK and have decided to go down the Note 3 route.
I have a varied lifestyle which means I can be in a variety of quite different environments with different use profiles for my devices (how's that for jargon?).
I'm looking for some advice around the best options to protect and power my phone.
I run an industrial and agricultural engineering business, as such my working environment can change from extreme to office boardroom on a daily basis. Extreme can involve outside in the Scottish winter so cold and wet. Industrial means drop risk and impact and screen protection, scratch protection, solvent and oil protection. We also restore old land rovers so mineral oil on hands is a frequent risk as is scrabbling around on dirty garage floors. I need to protect the phone from this environment but also retain full functionality.
However, I also find myself in the corporate boardroom where I need smart and sleek and unobtrusive and don't really want an oil stained lump of rubber in the table or desk.
In addition, at home I have two young children who have sticky fingers, accident prone (I've replaced my wife's iPhone screen and case 3 times now, who help themselves to phones and tablets to play games etc. I don't mind thus too much as it keeps the little buggers off my alienware M18.
At work we frequently find ourselves in remote locations where signal can be patchy and offer away from power sources for a while so I'm also looking to iccassionally beef up the battery. The remote locations can gobble up battery with roaming increased and whilst I know you can adjust settings, it can be a pain in the butt to remember to do this.
Strikes me I need a rugged, oil proof case and screen protector with the option of an extended battery capacity both of which can be removed to return to stick when in the office/socialising etc. Something with a holster would be good as well so I can pick up without rummaging in pockets which all too often contain knives, screw drivers etc.
What would you recommend? I've seen a few different options but am getting to the confused stage!
Secondly, I've recently developed osteoarthritis in my left hand, this makes using a phone the size of a One X with one hand tricky so the Note 3 will be even more of a challenge. So annoying and painful is this I very nearly opted for an iPhone 5s and breaking my vow never to own an apple product as Jobs was the antichrst and I can't stand Apples hypocritical, smug, controlling, 'aren't we just so wacky and cool', twat, Bollox corporate image- just because it is skinny enough to be easier to hold in my left hand when used as a phone or thumb texting.
I then recalled...just a minute, these days there are a plethora of solutions for this problem, there is no need to sacrifice my deepest principles!
Now I'm not a huge fan of Bluetooth ear sets they don't sit well with helmets, goggles, spectacles etc. So I have been interested to see the Galaxy Gear watch which looks like it might be an option despite the fact that I don't necessarily want to be bothered by phone and text all the time...sales calls, the bank, irate customers etc....
Question is...is the current GG watch worth getting or am I better waiting six months for the new one? I'm not sure if the latest one is waterproof and shockproof as most reviews tend to be about its gadgetry rather than its construction as a watch.
Lastly, I do a lot of miles behind the wheel in different vehicles, from family and work cars to vans and classic cars. Is there a decent generic vehicle dock avaliable for this phone, one which can be moved between vehicles easily and which allows me to easily access the phone as well as spotify and audible. I've gone back to my Garmin sat nav as in the uk anyway, Google maps app went from brilliant to utter push about six months ago. I've list count of the cash I have wasted on various phone mounts for cars and given the huge size of the Note 3 am thinking about somthing specific.
Thanks in advance for wasting valuable time pondering the best way forward for my hectic lif. I'm determined not to trash thus phone and secondly, to actually get the best out of its productivity as I'm getting busier and busier and need to use the devices smarter, one if the reasons I don't is the environment challenges.
Cheers
Rich
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hi to all forum members.
i'd like to purchase a new smartwatch and here is what i'd like it to do for me:
1. be able to answer a phone call shortly - not long conversations - and also via a text message
2. get and read notification from messenger, Whatsup or SMS -text messages.
3.be able to navigate while walking using Google maps and get directions on my smartwatch.
4. and last but not least see the time
all other function will be appreciated and welcomed
those i was considering were
AsusZen Watch
LG G Watch R
Samsung Gear Live
Sony Smartwatch 3
i'm using a galaxy s4 as my phone
thanks in advance
macc
As far as I know there aren't any Android Wear watches that support phone calls.
You can answer the phone on Android Wear, but you have to pick up your phone to hear and talk. I personally have the ZenWatch, but keep in mind that the second generation of these watches will be coming out later this year and early next year.
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...and Biktor will be all over that update. If you can stand some flashing and subscribing to xda threads, the gear 2 neo will make a viable and extremely cheap alternative. I got mine in box for a third of the price of a wear watch.
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You can answer the phone on Android Wear, but you have to pick up your phone to hear and talk. I personally have the ZenWatch, but keep in mind that the second generation of these watches will be coming out later this year and early next year.
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U8 smartwatch lets you answer and continue the conversation. You can also bring up the keypad and dial and call any number.
For what they cost on eBay aud $26 I can't find anything better... Like the Asus Zenwatch but they have no speaker and you have to hop off the bike and take the phone out of your pocket to continue the call.
The Samsung Gear has the charge contacts that fail from perspiration and Samsung claim it's the owners fault....are they supposed to keep the watch in their pocket. It's like having purchased a dive watch and your warranty is void if you wear it in the water.
So the design is flawed, the choice of sweat resistant solid contacts is needed with the light weight ones that corrode should be on the charger itself.
As for most of the others smartwatches they are too expensive for what they actually are capable of and the poor battery life.
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Honestly what I did was purchased a LG G Watch, refurb, from CowBoom for $45. I actually love this little thing. The only thing it WON'T do is take calls because of lack of speaker. I an answer/decline calls but I have to grab my phone to talk unless you pair a headset, which then it works great.
I went this route for 3 reasons. One because I didn't even know if I "needed or wanted" a smartwatch. I figured it would be a toy that ended up in a drawer. So I went the cheap route and picked up the cheapest Android Wear I could find. It is water proof so having notifications and music control while in the pool is very very cool. The only thing it doesn't do is actually let me take the call on the watch itself from the lack of speaker.The second reason I went that route was because supposedly the next round of Android Wear SmartWatches will support speakers. I suspect the Moto 360 2 and others will have this. The third reason is that I believe all current smartwatches have the same innerds anyway. I don't need to spend $200 more just for a round display.
Having used Android Wear for about a month. I can honestly say most of the features I thought I "needed" aren't really needed. Here is my list of "wants/needs" for my next watch I buy in round 2:
Needs
1. Water Resistance (absolute must since my primary use is in the pool)
2. Speaker for taking quick voice calls
3. Magnetic or Qi Wireless Charging. Not having a decent Charger connection is annoying. The LG G Watch has a magnetic dock. Super awesome.
Wants:
1. AMOLED screen (the LCD is fine, but the AMOLED seems it would be better for battery and usage)
2. Wireless (for extended range and direct app access)
3. Sky is the limit!
I know they are the underdog around here, but I thought I would point some things out. All things being equal, the Sony swr3 is my choice.
Why,
Needs:
waterproof
Easy to read in direct sunlight
Long battery life (all things being equal)
Not too expensive
Comfortable
Wants
Stand alone gps
WiFi
Nfc
Magnetic charging
All things being equal, this watch checked all the boxes save for wireless charging.
However, things are rarely equal and it seems the past few updates have been buggy as far as battery drain. So, the battery life is now the same as all the other watches (a bit more than a day when I reboot it preventing the drain), and when it drains quickly, it overheats. Other than that, it is amazing.
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I know they are the underdog around here, but I thought I would point some things out. All things being equal, the Sony swr3 is my choice.
Why,
Needs:
waterproof
Easy to read in direct sunlight
Long battery life (all things being equal)
Not too expensive
Comfortable
Wants
Stand alone gps
WiFi
Nfc
Magnetic charging
All things being equal, this watch checked all the boxes save for wireless charging.
However, things are rarely equal and it seems the past few updates have been buggy as far as battery drain. So, the battery life is now the same as all the other watches (a bit more than a day when I reboot it preventing the drain), and when it drains quickly, it overheats. Other than that, it is amazing.
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Yea I looked at the Sony. The 1 downfall I think with Sony is that it uses special wrist straps vs standard 22mm like the others do, so you are kinda stuck wearing a Sony strap.
Regardless I won't buy another smartwatch until I can use it as a speakerphone.
Yeah, they do make a universal band adapter, but it seems expensive, and you can only buy them on eBay. As for the speakerphone, you can use bluetooth with it (or your phone) so you could do speakerphone that way theoretically.
player911 said:
Honestly what I did was purchased a LG G Watch, refurb, from CowBoom for $45. I actually love this little thing. The only thing it WON'T do is take calls because of lack of speaker. I an answer/decline calls but I have to grab my phone to talk unless you pair a headset, which then it works great.
I went this route for 3 reasons. One because I didn't even know if I "needed or wanted" a smartwatch. I figured it would be a toy that ended up in a drawer. So I went the cheap route and picked up the cheapest Android Wear I could find. It is water proof so having notifications and music control while in the pool is very very cool. The only thing it doesn't do is actually let me take the call on the watch itself from the lack of speaker.The second reason I went that route was because supposedly the next round of Android Wear SmartWatches will support speakers. I suspect the Moto 360 2 and others will have this. The third reason is that I believe all current smartwatches have the same innerds anyway. I don't need to spend $200 more just for a round display.
Having used Android Wear for about a month. I can honestly say most of the features I thought I "needed" aren't really needed. Here is my list of "wants/needs" for my next watch I buy in round 2:
Needs
1. Water Resistance (absolute must since my primary use is in the pool)
2. Speaker for taking quick voice calls
3. Magnetic or Qi Wireless Charging. Not having a decent Charger connection is annoying. The LG G Watch has a magnetic dock. Super awesome.
Wants:
1. AMOLED screen (the LCD is fine, but the AMOLED seems it would be better for battery and usage)
2. Wireless (for extended range and direct app access)
3. Sky is the limit!
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That's a great summary and I am sure would suit most but if the next generation ups the prices again.. I doubt if I will head down that path.
If you need all those things including gps on board and water proof you can get all those features on a Chinese smart watch for a bit over $110 but not really a working warranty process. But as I explained earlier the big manufacturers duck when they can and want over $170 to bring your very expensive smart watch back-to life..
Me.. I will just buy another which will be next generation as well.
Thanks for your list though..
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The Sony watch is around 170 on Amazon. And since they messed my order up, they took about 50 dollars off. I feel that is a reasonable price for the tech considering it was cheaper than most exercise trackers which really was my purpose in looking at a smart watch.
Bunter221 said:
That's a great summary and I am sure would suit most but if the next generation ups the prices again.. I doubt if I will head down that path.
If you need all those things including gps on board and water proof you can get all those features on a Chinese smart watch for a bit over $110 but not really a working warranty process. But as I explained earlier the big manufacturers duck when they can and want over $170 to bring your very expensive smart watch back-to life..
Me.. I will just buy another which will be next generation as well.
Thanks for your list though..
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I don't really need an onboard GPS or separate SIM. And I actually have a Chinese review unit and just not impressed. It does what it needs to do, but the navigation is clunky and overall just performs like a chinese product. It seems rushed and not well planned. I think I will be sticking to Android Wear. I really like how the devices can install Android Apps.
The Gear S looks amazing, but requires a Samsung phone.
I just bought cheap now to get into it and KNOW what features I really like, want, or need. That way when the new devices come out, I can buy one that fits me. The lack of a speaker is really sad. My chinese smartwatch has a speaker and it is awesome. In fact my CoWorker today, his Samsung S5's display just died. Phone still works but no LCD. His chinese Samsung Gear knockoff smartwatch still connects and he is able to make and receive phone calls and get all of his notifications. His watch is really his saving grace today.
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I don't really need an onboard GPS or separate SIM. And I actually have a Chinese review unit and just not impressed. It does what it needs to do, but the navigation is clunky and overall just performs like a chinese product. It seems rushed and not well planned. I think I will be sticking to Android Wear. I really like how the devices can install Android Apps.
The Gear S looks amazing, but requires a Samsung phone.
I just bought cheap now to get into it and KNOW what features I really like, want, or need. That way when the new devices come out, I can buy one that fits me. The lack of a speaker is really sad. My chinese smartwatch has a speaker and it is awesome. In fact my CoWorker today, his Samsung S5's display just died. Phone still works but no LCD. His chinese Samsung Gear knockoff smartwatch still connects and he is able to make and receive phone calls and get all of his notifications. His watch is really his saving grace today.
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Strange you mention the gear knock off, for the money will be my choice it looks good and doesn't matter too much if it only lasts a year or two.. if the charging terminals on the watch are protected from corrosion it will overcome one of the major issues with the gear 2.
I will order one next month as I will be away. I will report back here as well.. The prices at gear best seem fair.
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The knockoff Gear does look good. Playing around with the mediatek software of the Gear, it is meh. Not as nice as the Android Wear with the gestures and ambient mode and play store app options... but does look good and works great. I am not sure it is waterproof but the charger clips on the back. I really like the magnetic LG G Watch charger.
My coworker has his gear watch for about a week and the screen is already shattered. I assume the knockoffs do not use gorilla glass or equivalent. Just a reminder.
Yes correct they are not waterproof. Splash proof probably..
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Waterproof is a must. I use mine for the pool all the time. Even if I dont wear the watch, it is nice to have handy knowing the G Watch is waterproof.
at first I was very upset for the price of the pixel and although I got a great deal on this phone (580$).
I honestly think that this phone is worth 750$ for the right consumer.
this is why I think is not over priced. I owned a bunch of smartphones including all the latest flagships, s7edge.note7,one plus3, lg v20, nexus, 6p, iPhone 7, and many more. and one thing I noticed that everyone says the pixel doesn't offer much for its price. example it doesn't have a dual edge, or a 2nd screen at the top, is not water resistant, doesn't have ir blaster, or dual front facing speakers. people feel like they are paying for just a plain basic phone! which is correct! on mys s7edge I ended up hating the stupid edge screen accidental touches were becoming a norm. the edge panel is turned off by majority of users so other than esthetics imo is useless, lg v20 2nd display yes is convenient and pretty cool but the only major used I have is to use the torch, most of the times I still landlocked the phone to do task that I could of done from the 2bd display. plus is very inconvenient is placed all the way at the top and the lg v20 is not a small phone.
to summarize this the pixel is a plain android phone without any useless gimmicks that other manufactures are using. could they have added a few more features. yes perhaps water resistant and dual front facing speakers would have been nice. but just the fluid pure android experience on this phone defiantly makes it worth its premium price.
again this is personal my opinion and I would enjoy to see what you guys think after owning the pixel!
Every phone is missing something. From Samsung missing proper long term updates, iPhone missing some hardware features, to Pixel missing hardware features. It's up to the consumer to decide which checkboxes are more important. I think all the hate on the phone comes from people expecting the Pixel to check off every box a consumer would want at the same price point the competition is at, even though they are all missing something as well. Business doesn't work that way.
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Every phone is missing something. From Samsung missing proper long term updates, iPhone missing some hardware features, to Pixel missing hardware features. It's up to the consumer to decide which checkboxes are more important. I think all the hate on the phone comes from people expecting the Pixel to check off every box a consumer would want at the same price point the competition is at, even though they are all missing something as well. Business doesn't work that way.
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What hardware features is the pixel missing? front facing speakers?
lucky_strike33 said:
What hardware features is the pixel missing? front facing speakers?
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That's they only thing I would have really liked never really cared for bottom frieing speakers, waterproofing would have been cool ... And maybe a physical home button but I know that's not really a feature many care about .... None of which takes away from it being a nice phone ..... I think all phones are a bit over priced lol, price is subject anyway the only person who needs to worry about it is the one who's buying it and if it's too much they have the choice to get something cheaper
razor237 said:
That's they only thing I would have really liked never really cared for bottom frieing speakers, waterproofing would have been cool ... And maybe a physical home button but I know that's not really a feature many care about .... None of which takes away from it being a nice phone ..... I think all phones are a bit over priced lol, price is subject anyway the only person who needs to worry about it is the one who's buying it and if it's too much they have the choice to get something cheaper
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I personallt prefer on screen buttons rather than hardware. people say you get more screen real state but I I actually enjoy the on screen better. although my biggest let down was the two speakers which I feel like they should have put there. other than that the phone is just what I wanted. stock, and lighting fast!
I mostly agree, this phone performs like no other. It should be 64gb base storage however.
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I mostly agree, this phone performs like no other. It should be 64gb base storage however.
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oh yes that's a big one!! DEFINETLY base should of been 64GB..
but Google is smart most people went 128GBB which is exactly what they hoped for.. I believe that's why they limited the base model to 32GB and try to make up with unlimited storage.
You forgot no sd card slot which pretty much the only other flagship phone that also does not have one is iphone. Also you forgot about no OIS which is one thing a lot of people were upset about.
My biggest things for me is no sd card slot, and a one single mono speaker, not just that its not dual front speakers, that it is just only one speaker. They could have made the audio a lot better if they copied the Htc 10 boomsound dual speakers which are not front facing but they sound a lot better than the pixel xl's single speaker.
I never would have paid full price for my 32 gig pixel xl, well actually I did but I got a $200 best buy gift card in the deal, and a free chromecast yes lol woo hoo a free old model chromecast when the new 4k version is out already lol.
I wanted a pixel, it's the best android smartphone period. I am using iPhone 7 Plus for about 3 weeks now, and I love it, It's worth the money, it offers tech, that no other competitors does yet, and even if they did, without google implementation it will suck. They should have started this year with a little bit lower price, considering the large unnecessary chin and all the other features they ignored. Next year with iPhone 8 google must really bring their A game.
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For me the premium price pays for all the tiny attention to detail points on the phone. I love all the little optimisations that culminate into the bigger picture. Custom CPU tuning with Qualcomm, camera ISP tweaks, touchscreen latency, fantastic build quality, in house developments like the insane video stabilisation and HDR+ all add up. Stereo speakers would've been great, it's the only thing I miss from the 6P but the down firing speaker works loud and clear and a worthwhile trade off for such a sleek performer.
Dude, it's very much overpriced.
It's missing sooo many hardware features that other phones have.
IR blaster for acting as a TV remote.
MicroSD for additional storage.
Water resistance of a decent nature.
So many more things but I don't want to think about it because I'll just get upset at my phone again.
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What hardware features is the pixel missing? front facing speakers?
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Here is pretty much what it seems most people griping about the phone want.
A phone design of the ages.... absolutely flawless
Indestructible "premium" body that is light as a feather
Scratchproof shatterproof screen
Radios that reach the cosmos
The next version of the OS that isn't released yet before coders even know what they're coding
An OS that predicts your every move
Absolutely zero manufacturing tolerances
Next year's internals
Stereo speakers
THX wired and wireless audio from a phone
SD card
Removable battery
Fast Charging
Fast Wireless Charging
A phone so water and dustproof that even air can't permeate the body
Endless storage
A camera that rivals Hubble
......all for 4 easy payments of $19.95
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Here is pretty much what it seems most people griping about the phone want.
A phone design of the ages.... absolutely flawless
Indestructible "premium" body that is light as a feather
Scratchproof shatterproof screen
Radios that reach the cosmos
The next version of the OS that isn't released yet before coders even know what they're coding
An OS that predicts your every move
Absolutely zero manufacturing tolerances
Next year's internals
Stereo speakers
THX wired and wireless audio from a phone
SD card
Removable battery
Fast Charging
Fast Wireless Charging
A phone so water and dustproof that even air can't permeate the body
Endless storage
A camera that rivals Hubble
......all for 4 easy payments of $19.95
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LOL BEST REPLY SO FAR. consumers will never be sastified..
CZ Eddie said:
Dude, it's very much overpriced.
It's missing sooo many hardware features that other phones have.
IR blaster for acting as a TV remote.
MicroSD for additional storage.
Water resistance of a decent nature.
So many more things but I don't want to think about it because I'll just get upset at my phone again.
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bro if this are so important to you, you should honestly go get a LG v20.. why buy a phone that is aim for pure android experience. and although the pixel is not rated water resistant it holds up very well. as it was submerge in water for one hour and it was fully functional at the end. and I never used the ir blaster I rather buy a universal remote.. when a phone tries to do too much it always fails at something and mostly is a lot bigger than what you gain.
I wanted a ****ty ass LG phone I would have bought one.
I don't think anybody is missing ois, especially anybody who has used the phone...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObhMgCT-Rzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YojQneS6Yts
I don't mind the price of $649/$749.
However, I do mind the big price hike in Canada... $899 for the 5" and $1049 for the 5.5"?
Come on
The 749 USD translates to 1003 cad right now so it's not that big of a price hike lol, the conversion just sucks right now lol
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CZ Eddie said:
Dude, it's very much overpriced.
It's missing sooo many hardware features that other phones have.
IR blaster for acting as a TV remote.
MicroSD for additional storage.
Water resistance of a decent nature.
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4x4 MIMO would have been nice for the money they're asking for.
High end device with user replaceable battery, IPS LCD to retain natural color reproduction, separate 2nd screen for shortcuts-music control-notifications, microSD, ideal fingerprint location-functionality, quad DAC-headphone jack considering current trends+the V30 abandoned several of those?
Yes it could have fit dual front facing stereo speakers, better front facing camera & low light cameras but is the V20 the last of it's kind with all these aforementioned features because I'm considering buying more now that they can be had at bargain prices?
The only correct answer is "Nobody knows what the future will bring."
I can take a guess. Since water proofing seems popular now I suspect any openings in the case will be eliminated if possible to please those who think they should teach their phone to swim. That means no replaceable battery and no headphone jack for sure and maybe no more SD cards.
Personally, if I drop my phone in the toilet it's history but for those who like "crappy" phones they must be water proof!
I think I'm the only person who actually likes the sound of the V30 (I currently have a V20). I really don't need a hot-swappable battery as I've always found fast charging to be enough, and I really like the idea of added waterproofing and dust protection. The second screen is great but the always-on feature that AMOLED displays offer covers that for me. So in my opinion, yeah! LG seem committed to keeping the advanced features for the V series at the moment. But for those of you who really like the idea of a user-replaceable battery, I'd say those days are numbered.
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High end device with user replaceable battery, IPS LCD to retain natural color reproduction, separate 2nd screen for shortcuts-music control-notifications, microSD, ideal fingerprint location-functionality, quad DAC-headphone jack considering current trends+the V30 abandoned several of those?
Yes it could have fit dual front facing stereo speakers, better front facing camera & low light cameras but is the V20 the last of it's kind with all these aforementioned features because I'm considering buying more now that they can be had at bargain prices?
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I would suggest focusing on new models that have an easily replaced battery (IE some Motorolas, One plus etc) and other features that you like (ext SD etc). For me the ability to somewhat easily replace the battery is a HUGE factor in my decision buying a phone... Because I like keeping my heavily used phones more than a year or so. I always check ifixit before buying or recommending a phone... To see how easy it is to replace the battery
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I would suggest focusing on new models that have an easily replaced battery (IE some Motorolas, One plus etc) and other features that you like (ext SD etc). For me the ability to somewhat easily replace the battery is a HUGE factor in my decision buying a phone... Because I like keeping my heavily used phones more than a year or so. I always check ifixit before buying or recommending a phone... To see how easy it is to replace the battery
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I do exactly the same!
I really do favor being able to pop in a new battery in seconds at will vs hassles or planned obsolescence. I'd even like to see manufacturers offer slide in batteries of different sizes & offer case options for waterproofing and sports models for those who may refuse to use any kind of case.
I view the disappearance of user replaceable batteries as an extension of Apple's market power and hostility (my way or the highway proprietary attitude) to the end user. Apple never offered user replaceable batteries (nor expandable storage) and it was once a distinguishing Android device feature.
I see people around me often with dying phones being tethered to walls or carrying around large external batteries for their devices. The only smartphone I've ever owned without a user replaceable battery is the Nexus 6P & after that terrible experience of the battery dying so early ultimately having to get it professionally replaced really cemented how much I hate not being able to pop in a new battery at will. It's almost like a claustrophobic crippled feeling having to deal with an enclosed battery with no sd card like the Nexus 6P. User replaceable batteries also makes the secondary used device market much more viable vs getting a dying enclosed battery with used devices. Sales enhanced with planned obsolescence seem to take priority over offering end users & the e-waste-environment other options. I'd like to see https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/...s-smartphones-tech-last-longer-easier-repair/ happen in other markets including the US but won't hold my breath.
Regarding upcoming high end devices (none I see with removable batteries sadly), as I prefer IPS LCD to retain natural color reproduction with loud speakers-headphone jack, potentially good cameras, I'll check out the reviews & ifixit for https://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_5_ze620kl-9061.php but would not expect future phones to be as repairable as https://ifixit.org/blog/8550/lg-v20-repair-phone/ :
Wired’s Brian Barrett called the V20 a phone for power users who “feel rightly abandoned by the move toward one monolithic, iPhone-inspired smartphone design upon which HTC and Google and Motorola and others have converged. The V20 wants you to know that you are not forgotten.”
“It’s refreshing to hold a phone with a removable battery. It’s beneficial on so many levels. The life of the phone is extended by years and the battery replacements are inexpensive and so easy that anyone can do it,” Zack told us. “Screen replacements are a little more technical. But only one tool is required: a screwdriver. And that makes it simple for the average person to fix on their own.”
Any upcoming devices catch anyone's attention?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8XYKIdG9tI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4pN-vqLCj0
In theory, this phone is perfect. But the planned obsolescence and flimsy plastic bull**** it was constructed with has cost 2 new headphone jacks and 2 new bezels in a year; although I'm counting it as three since my headphone jack has AGAIN worn out and needs to be replaced, along with the bottom bezel. At this point, I am convinced I could either have built a better phone myself or should have just kept my indestructible flip phone and bought a DAP.
measty said:
has cost 2 new headphone jacks and 2 new bezels in a year; although I'm counting it as three since my headphone jack has AGAIN worn out and needs to be replaced, along with the bottom bezel. At this point, I am convinced I could either have built a better phone myself or should have just kept my indestructible flip phone and bought a DAP.
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Maybe by now, you'd arrive at the conclusion bluetooth headset won't do that like conventional physical plug in versions? Just a thought. My daughter complained about her LG G3 and the one-sided output from the physical jack. Bluetooth headset solved that but quick
nightstah said:
Maybe by now, you'd arrive at the conclusion bluetooth headset won't do that like conventional physical plug in versions? Just a thought. My daughter complained about her LG G3 and the one-sided output from the physical jack. Bluetooth headset solved that but quick
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Well, the reason I got the v20 was for the DAC. Irony hits in all the right places.
I am in the same dilemma as to what will I replace the V20 with when it knocks out. I got the phone because of the DAC and user replaceable battery. My gripe with LG now is slowness of updating the software.
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The only correct answer is "Nobody knows what the future will bring."
I can take a guess. Since water proofing seems popular now I suspect any openings in the case will be eliminated if possible to please those who think they should teach their phone to swim. That means no replaceable battery and no headphone jack for sure and maybe no more SD cards.
Personally, if I drop my phone in the toilet it's history but for those who like "crappy" phones they must be water proof!
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The Galaxy S5 was waterproof and had a replaceable battery.
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Nolia said:
I am in the same dilemma as to what will I replace the V20 with when it knocks out. I got the phone because of the DAC and user replaceable battery. My gripe with LG now is slowness of updating the software.
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Not really slow considering the factors that carriers get in the way. Also going straight to Oreo.
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The Galaxy S5 was water "resistant", not water proof. To be waterproof a phone would need no openings in the case and I suspect that's what they're working toward. Seems silly to me, the V20 just may be my last phone since I like replaceable batteries AND SD cards. I don't need waterproofing (so far) as I've never soaked a phone.
Hope I didn't just jinx myself!
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The Galaxy S5 was waterproof and had a replaceable battery.
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Not really slow considering the factors that carriers get in the way. Also going straight to Oreo.
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Mine was sim free. I would still say its slow considering phones like mate 9 r running Oreo
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I do exactly the same!
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Easy like the one plus 5t (for a sealed battery its pretty easy, if your used to this sort of thing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=l7UvDoj6RZA
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Easy like the one plus 5t (for a sealed battery its pretty easy, if your used to this sort of thing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=l7UvDoj6RZA
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Definitely been around a device or two. I'm usually "tech support" for friends and family. Not an electronics technician, just a hobbyist. I'm actually a machinist. I'll give anything a shot before it goes in the trash.
I've been able to score some "broken" devices and get tons of use after repair, dating back to the OG Droid A855.
(3) Nexus 7 2013. One for my car install, one for my daughter, and one for around the house. 2 of them were broken screens.
My wife's "water damaged" G3, which is still alive going on 3 years after an alcohol bath fix, even after mine started wigging out with SIM errors (baked it, got it working, then bought my US996 a week later).
I've torn down a brand new Galaxy S6 and a broken screen one just to swap the board to recover data, then swap it all back to send in for insurance, lol. That was fun...stupid glass backings.
Baked my brothers V10 to get it to boot. Recover some data, it looped again, disassemble, baked it, assemble, recovered more data, looped, dissassemble, bake, assemble, recover......total of 7 times, lol.
The days of having an easily repairable device with a removable battery are slowly dying. But where there is a will, there is always a way.
It is unfortunate that it seems that way.
I'm okay with Galaxy S5 level of water resistance. I used to wash that phone on the sink constantly, and shower with it. It was enough. So there are ways to still have removable battery covers.
The problem is that most of us that opted for the V20 was for the features it have that no other phones had. If I wanted a AMOLED with always on display I would've go for a Samsung or many others. I prefer the far more useful for me second screen, it works for shortcuts, controls and notifications. Although I wish I could have even more control over it, specially like when playing fullscreen games.
I prefer IPS screens over all others any day. Specially over Samsungs SAMOLEDs, those give me headaches due to its sub pixel alignment.
The Quad-DAC headphone jack is miles ahead of grand majority of phones. On the level of overly priced music players. And the IR is something I need, for in my house family always lose/brake the remotes.
The phone was truly the last phone released for power users, the phone had every tech you could cram it, only missing true stereo speakers. Decent dual cameras with great software, removable battery, mSD, DAC, IR, a second scree, display out, near perfect IPS display, sturdy construction relative to most other phones that brake on first drop.
I seriously have no idea to what phone I would jump to, none satisfy me. Would go for a Razer phone, for the whole project linda thing. But no headphone jack makes it a no.