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Why is Development for the S7 edge I S7 dead?

Good Hello Everyone,
so I just got my S7 edge today aaand the first thing I do after getting home is obviously visit the S7 edge section on xda! but oh boy... what's this what I'm seeing! or should I say not seeing? basically no roms and not a single custom kernel!!! I'm deceased:crying:.
WHY? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??? :crying:
Development on the S6 was simply great. Switching to a Note 5 well not so great but had some gems. But now "upgrading" to a S7 edge and being faced with this tragedy? Oh man I hope this changes in the near future.

I wouldn't expect any change to the U.S. version. If rooting is really important to you, return the phone while you can.
I have to ask, though: Why didn't you look at XDA before deciding what phone to buy?

meyerweb said:
I wouldn't expect any change to the U.S. version. If rooting is really important to you, return the phone while you can.
I have to ask, though: Why didn't you look at XDA before deciding what phone to buy?
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I was wondering the same thing.....

Because 2016. Flagships dont really need any development now. The purpose of custom roms was better battery, faster speeds, less lag, etc. But today's flagships already have all of those things. There are no improvements you can make. I have stopped rooting/ROMing my phones since last year because i just dont feel the need anymore. You will probably get a few roms in the future anyway , but I dont think the community will be anywhere near as active as before in the development section.

I'm happy with this phone the way it is actually! So far not missing root for a month now. I shudder to think all the time I spent the past six years rooting, flashing, fixing, etc.
Besides that's what a Nexus is for!
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I wouldn't go that far as saying the development has stopped. There are coming custom Rom. Tho, not as many as before, I'll agree with that.
When it comes to custom kernel, you can have a look at this tread
Apparently Samsung priorities security because of Samsung pay.
When it comes to what @mahdibassam says, I disagree. A good example was the S6, who had major bugs from Samsung side. The the first to fix it was this community with the custom roms.
There is always room for improvements.

Neemac said:
I wouldn't go that far as saying the development has stopped. There are coming custom Rom. Tho, not as many as before, I'll agree with that.
When it comes to custom kernel, you can have a look at this tread
Apparently Samsung priorities security because of Samsung pay.
When it comes to what @mahdibassam says, I disagree. A good example was the S6, who had major bugs from Samsung side. The the first to fix it was this community with the custom roms.
There is always room for improvements.
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Well, if a phone is buggy, then that warrants the need for a custom rom. E.g. the LG G4 was in dire need of improvement. But can you give me one area where the S7 edge is lacking and would need a custom rom to fix? I really cant think of any.

mahdibassam said:
Well, if a phone is buggy, then that warrants the need for a custom rom. E.g. the LG G4 was in dire need of improvement. But can you give me one area where the S7 edge is lacking and would need a custom rom to fix? I really cant think of any.
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If you're happy with the S7 as it is, then that's good. But for me, and many others, the phone ain't complete "mine" until root is there, and maybe some custom roms, where they are already debloated and deodexd.
It's all about custom preference
Especially the kernel part is important for me, as that's the real thing when it comes too set the phone free, and really get the use of all the power the phone holds.

chieco said:
Good Hello Everyone,
so I just got my S7 edge today aaand the first thing I do after getting home is obviously visit the S7 edge section on xda! but oh boy... what's this what I'm seeing! or should I say not seeing? basically no roms and not a single custom kernel!!! I'm deceased:crying:.
WHY? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??? :crying:
Development on the S6 was simply great. Switching to a Note 5 well not so great but had some gems. But now "upgrading" to a S7 edge and being faced with this tragedy? Oh man I hope this changes in the near future.
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Development will begin, it is still a new phone. The software on S7 is less intrusive but I fully understand you would like a customized device experience and being a flagship device you assumed this one will be well supported by the developers(which it will, just a matter of time).

S7 edge exynos has some kicking roms. Loving it
Sent from my Pebble Time

Neemac said:
I wouldn't go that far as saying the development has stopped. There are coming custom Rom. Tho, not as many as before, I'll agree with that.
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Not for the North American version with it's locked bootloader.

Is not been released more than a month. We already have root and a handful of Roms.
Not sure why you think development is dead. Just at the moment is not really required as the phones are smooth as it is.
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mahdibassam said:
Because 2016. Flagships dont really need any development now. The purpose of custom roms was better battery, faster speeds, less lag, etc. But today's flagships already have all of those things. There are no improvements you can make. I have stopped rooting/ROMing my phones since last year because i just dont feel the need anymore. You will probably get a few roms in the future anyway , but I dont think the community will be anywhere near as active as before in the development section.
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Seriously?
-Viper4Android
-Xposed (and therefore essential modules like Xprivacy, Xtouchwiz, MinMinGuard, YouTube AdAway and App Settings)
-Adblock (non-root ad blocking solutions are mediocre at best)
-AFWall+
-Titanium Backup
-Greenify (will work without root but hibernation of apps needs to be manual)
The list goes on. You can choose not to root, but you can't say improvements can't be made to stock by doing so. That will never be the case in my view.

mahdibassam said:
Because 2016. Flagships dont really need any development now. The purpose of custom roms was better battery, faster speeds, less lag, etc. But today's flagships already have all of those things. There are no improvements you can make. I have stopped rooting/ROMing my phones since last year because i just dont feel the need anymore. You will probably get a few roms in the future anyway , but I dont think the community will be anywhere near as active as before in the development section.
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Of course there are improvements to make. There always is. Stock is never heavily debloated or as efficient as custom, as stock should be over stable.. So customer's don't complain about problems.
If the battery and speed are good stock, you can just make it even better custom. Like change alarms and wakelocks on thing you personally don't need. Debloat things running in the background, hibernate them, set cpu work queues, change network when screen of and so on.

Beefheart said:
Seriously?
-Viper4Android
-Xposed (and therefore essential modules like Xprivacy, Xtouchwiz, MinMinGuard, YouTube AdAway and App Settings)
-Adblock (non-root ad blocking solutions are mediocre at best)
-AFWall+
-Titanium Backup
-Greenify (will work without root but hibernation of apps needs to be manual)
The list goes on. You can choose not to root, but you can't say improvements can't be made to stock by doing so. That will never be the case in my view.
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Faspaiso said:
Of course there are improvements to make. There always is. Stock is never heavily debloated or as efficient as custom, as stock should be over stable.. So customer's don't complain about problems.
If the battery and speed are good stock, you can just make it even better custom. Like change alarms and wakelocks on thing you personally don't need. Debloat things running in the background, hibernate them, set cpu work queues, change network when screen of and so on.
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I totally get what you saying guys, I am just giving my own opinion, as you are. Each to their own i guess. I just dont see the need to put myself through the hassle of root and recovery and the manually flashing every update through recovery, and then a clean install with every new base and etc. The phone is just good enough as it is out of the box, FOR ME. I would love to have Greenify again, but frankly the battery life is just really good and I dont feel the need to go through the trouble to get it , and I have never used Xposed anyway.
But all in all, what puts me off from going the custom rom way these days is 1) The phone is just perfect as it is (again, for me) 2) I cant be bothered to flash every update through recovery and etc and do a clean flash with every new base and all the other stuff that comes with custom roms
But hey, this is the beauty of android isnt it, it caters to everyone, including me and you

chieco said:
Good Hello Everyone,
so I just got my S7 edge today aaand the first thing I do after getting home is obviously visit the S7 edge section on xda! but oh boy... what's this what I'm seeing! or should I say not seeing? basically no roms and not a single custom kernel!!! I'm deceased:crying:.
WHY? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??? :crying:
Development on the S6 was simply great. Switching to a Note 5 well not so great but had some gems. But now "upgrading" to a S7 edge and being faced with this tragedy? Oh man I hope this changes in the near future.
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Because the stock firmware is good enough so no development is needed.
You already have great battery life, theme support, ad blocking support, many other customization options.

mahdibassam said:
I totally get what you saying guys, I am just giving my own opinion, as you are. Each to their own i guess. I just dont see the need to put myself through the hassle of root and recovery and the manually flashing every update through recovery, and then a clean install with every new base and etc. The phone is just good enough as it is out of the box, FOR ME. I would love to have Greenify again, but frankly the battery life is just really good and I dont feel the need to go through the trouble to get it , and I have never used Xposed anyway.
But all in all, what puts me off from going the custom rom way these days is 1) The phone is just perfect as it is (again, for me) 2) I cant be bothered to flash every update through recovery and etc and do a clean flash with every new base and all the other stuff that comes with custom roms
But hey, this is the beauty of android isnt it, it caters to everyone, including me and you
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That's great, and in a way I'm envious. But there are simply too many applications I can't do without that require root.
Cst79 said:
Because the stock firmware is good enough so no development is needed.
You already have great battery life, theme support, ad blocking support, many other customization options.
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Ad blocking on non-root is via VPN. It's ropey and unreliable at best. Certainly it doesn't hold a candle to what can be achieved with root and proper hosts editing. Also, Xprivacy for me is essential, I'd go so far as calling it my most important application. Combine it with a firewall like AFWall+ and, in terms of privacy, my phone is locked down. Non-root firewalls, like non-root ad blockers, work on VPN, and are again unreliable in comparison. Plus you can't protect against data leaks on boot. But I guess it comes down to what we want from our phones.

LOL. Does this question really need to be asked? If you look around in the forums you'll see that the dev community for this phone is almost non-existent because of its locked bootloader.

HesThatGuy said:
LOL. Does this question really need to be asked? If you look around in the forums you'll see that the dev community for this phone is almost non-existent because of its locked bootloader.
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"It" doesn't have a locked bootloader. The US Snapdragon variant does.

HesThatGuy said:
LOL. Does this question really need to be asked? If you look around in the forums you'll see that the dev community for this phone is almost non-existent because of its locked bootloader.
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Such confidence, 'LOL' ing people, yet you are wrong and spreading false information. The Exynos variant already has a few ROMS. The bootloader is unlocked. Only the Snapdragon is locked.
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New stock A2017U best way from here?

Picked up the $330 deal from Newegg Ebay. The phone is charged and unmodded / not updated. The software it came with is A2017UV1.0.0B27. There is an update pending but I've not applied it yet. I'm well versed with ADB and fastboot coming from a long line of Nexus phones that I always root...
There seems to be lots of ways forward from here but I'd like to see what people recommend. It appears that an unlocked bootloader will make it so future updates cannot be applied. I've always unlocked in the past but I hope to get wifi calling (T-Mobile) in future updates (from what I understand that's on the way but not out yet?). If a non-stock rom allows wifi calling I'd be game for that as I typically am not a fan of how companies bloat the standard android rom.
Main things I want:
TWRP
(seamless?) root (primarily for AdAway and TiBackup)
Band 12
Wifi calling
Remove any potential ZTE spyware
What do you think? Unlock the bootloader and forget future ZTE updates? Keep it locked?
Thanks!

OTA updates work just fine with an unlocked bootloader. They do not however work if the system or recovery has been modified.
I ran stock for a few weeks. Recently switched to resurrection remix. It adds a lot of additional configuration ability. Most of the settings that were/are available in gravity box. GB is no longer possible until xposed is redeveloped for 7.
I'd say unlock the bootloader first, then either try stock or one of the aosp roms. Been on RR for just two days now, first impressions include bettery battery life and faster UI interaction.

gpz1100 said:
OTA updates work just fine with an unlocked bootloader. They do not however work if the system or recovery has been modified.
I ran stock for a few weeks. Recently switched to resurrection remix. It adds a lot of additional configuration ability. Most of the settings that were/are available in gravity box. GB is no longer possible until xposed is redeveloped for 7.
I'd say unlock the bootloader first, then either try stock or one of the aosp roms. Been on RR for just two days now, first impressions include bettery battery life and faster UI interaction.
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Ahh... understood. Seamless is the way to go for future updates then. I'll unlock and take that route. Thanks much!

Lost Dog said:
Ahh... understood. Seamless is the way to go for future updates then. I'll unlock and take that route. Thanks much!
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My personal experience with Lineage (never tried RR, but I guess it's close to lineage) is overall disappointment. Half of the apps I tried didn't work, especially some 3D games. The stock camera app is unbearably bad IMO, from comparisons I decided to make I hate the overall quality of the photos... ZTE's system is not even close to full of bloatware. The only added out of the box apps are WPS Office which comes in handy, AccuWeather which is kinda questionable, true; ZTE Cares which mostly tells you to reboot your phone if you have a problem (1.14 mb, never open), this WeShare thing that you can ignore completely, and the stock music, browser, etc and Gapps. Even the calculator and some kinda useful apps are all packed on one app, and you can add shortcuts... Can't really say I've seen less bloated phones in the market...
TWRP and root are completely fine on Stock
no idea about band 12
ZTE spyware... The only thing I heard about was the location provider on A2017G which is being changed on the next update. We had Qualcomm IZat (Korea) and we got changed to Tencent (China) so that's kind of a spyware. but you can uninstall that with root
and I understand people who say that the stock ROM is ugly. Just use a launcher.
the only real advantage that I can see is the possibility to use Substratum with a pitch black theme. I could get near to 2 days battery with that stuff.

^^How recently have you tried it?
I'll be out and about tomorrow so will get a chance to play with the camera to see how well it does in RR. I got both the google camera and aosp camera apps installed. We'll see how good/bad the pics come out. I don't expect dslr results out of a cell phone camera anyway so camera quality isn't at the top of the list for me.
Same with games. Can't remember the last one I played on a phone. Most of my use is email/web/navi/voip. Long battery life is at the top of my list. With typical usage, I could go 2 days between charges and still have ~40% remaining. If I get 3 days now with RR with similar usage/sot, I'll be happy camper. Not to mention, the phone is more responsive.
Stock isn't bad until you've tried something else, then you get a feel for how heavy the ui is.
Band 12 is supported on both tmo and att as far as i know. I know i've seen it a few times on att.

Does anyone have an alternative link to the files in this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/wip-axon-7-root-bootloader-unlokced-t3441204
Dev-Host either throws out a ton of spam links or just stalls on the download.

Alright!
I'm on 7.1.1 with backed up stock bootloader and recovery. Rooted with a modified version of Magisk and passing the safetynet check.
So far, signal strength seems good and the addition of wifi calling is fantastic....

I don't have T-Mobile, but I believe the latest update, v. 7.1.1 B19 includes WiFi calling.
ETA: Oops. I guess that's what I get for getting distracted and posting a response an hour after I started it.

The android update cycle

You install a new ROM, and get used to it
After a couple months, pretty much everything is working correctly, you don't foresee ever updating the OS again
Six months in, you realize some things aren't working as they should anymore, but you can't tell which app update broke it and google isn't giving you a solution to your weirdly specific issue
You realize that at this point, a clean reinstall of the OS is your best bet
You're going through all that trouble, might as well try an up-to-date ROM
After a couple months...
Been happy with my ZUK for almost half a year since I last had to update the OS, now my music is getting cut off near the end on a lot of players and I don't know how to fix it. The Google Assistant gets stuck confirming a reminder. Clearing caches of all sorts didn't do anything, so here I am.
I hope Pie ROMs are stable, cause my AEX Oreo is bursting at the seams.

CosmicBovine said:
You install a new ROM, and get used to it
After a couple months, pretty much everything is working correctly, you don't foresee ever updating the OS again
Six months in, you realize some things aren't working as they should anymore, but you can't tell which app update broke it and google isn't giving you a solution to your weirdly specific issue
You realize that at this point, a clean reinstall of the OS is your best bet
You're going through all that trouble, might as well try an up-to-date ROM
After a couple months...
Been happy with my ZUK for almost half a year since I last had to update the OS, now my music is getting cut off near the end on a lot of players and I don't know how to fix it. The Google Assistant gets stuck confirming a reminder. Clearing caches of all sorts didn't do anything, so here I am.
I hope Pie ROMs are stable, cause my AEX Oreo is bursting at the seams.
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This is a tradeoff that everyone of us agrees to, when we flash a custom ROM
We trade a little bit of stability for some really useful customizations and preferred UI

visheshjain25 said:
This is a tradeoff that everyone of us agrees to, when we flash a custom ROM
We trade a little bit of stability for some really useful customizations and preferred UI
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This is the general case, talking about zuk z2 maybe custom roms are more stable than stock zui ?, and for sure more "Occidental-friendly"

So true for alllllll phones out there.
Only those who don't care about all this at all are best at peace.

Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e Riru Xposed Experiences

I am soliciting info about your experiences with Riru Xposed on your S5e.
My experience was that it seemed to really slow the tablet down (I say 'seemed' because at the same time I was also doing some extreme debloating/deleting that could have very likely caused the problem--I know, I should have installed Riru Xposed on to a well performing/healthy tablet--my bad).
Anyways, either my debloating/deleting, or installing Riru Xposed caused the tablet to be so laggy that I uninstalled Riru. This didn't improve responsiveness so I then enabled *everything*. Still the same, so I took the step of going back to stock and rooting again.
This where I am now, with only a few packages disabled and a still-snappy, well performing device. Before I start messing with Riru Xposed again I'd like to know how well others have fared using it.
The Riru variant I used before was 'SandHook'--does the 'YAHFA' variant affect device performance differently?
Have you installed Riru? and are you happy with your tablet's performance?
Do you have any advice/suggestions?
Any feedback appreciated!
Thanks

Installed Riru Xposed (YAHFA).
Antutu raw numbers below.
Screenshots of full results at https://bit.ly/2VXRoLt
Also worth noting is that all test results are with 124 packages disabled.
BEFORE THEMING - 156271
AFTER THEMING - 155097
XPOSED no modules - 147698
XPOSED & 7 modules - 148004
The differences are nominal, but the tablet is noticeably laggy.

For the curiosity enabled, Antutu 8 results (Riru SandHook)

YAHFA Seems Best
I've gone back and forth between using the SandHook and YAHFA variants. I'm currently using Riru - EdXposed v0.4.5.1_beta(4463) (YAHFA) Updated on: Aug 2, 2019 and am very happy with performance, after I DELETED all the phone related packages.
I'd noticed UX slow-down after installing Riru Xposed before, but this time it was extreme. I did a bit of investigating, and discovered that one of the 'phone' apps was crashing multiple times a second. (In my rush to fix it, I didn't collect more specific info).
I did what I have always done in the past on my rooted WiFi-only devices—I deleted all phone related folders and apps, and rebooted. All is good now.
A, hopefully inclusive, list of stuff I deleted in the data/data, data/user, system/app, and system/priv-app folders on my T720 WiFi-only tablet:
Anything with these in the name​
blocked number
call
carrier
csc
cts
dialer
mobile
phone
sim (be sure it's phone related)
stk
telecom
telephony
Reboot immediately after to avoid a flood of 'errors'. You won't see them after boot, and your logcat will be 'cleaner'.
Note, this is in addition to my ever-growing (currently 142) number of 'frozen/debloated' packages.

TiTiB said:
I've gone back and forth between using the SandHook and YAHFA variants. I'm currently using Riru - EdXposed v0.4.5.1_beta(4463) (YAHFA) Updated on: Aug 2, 2019 and am very happy with performance, after I DELETED all the phone related packages.
I'd noticed UX slow-down after installing Riru Xposed before, but this time it was extreme. I did a bit of investigating, and discovered that one of the 'phone' apps was crashing multiple times a second. (In my rush to fix it, I didn't collect more specific info).
I did what I have always done in the past on my rooted WiFi-only devices—I deleted all phone related folders and apps, and rebooted. All is good now.
A, hopefully inclusive, list of stuff I deleted in the data/data, data/user, system/app, and system/priv-app folders on my T720 WiFi-only tablet:
Anything with these in the name
blocked number
call
carrier
csc
cts
dialer
mobile
phone
sim (be sure it's phone related)
stk
telecom
telephony
Reboot immediately after to avoid a flood of 'errors'. You won't see them after boot, and your logcat will be 'cleaner'.
Note, this is in addition to my ever-growing (currently 142) number of 'frozen/debloated' packages.
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Hi, I'm curious as to what would be better. De-bloating and or deleting stock apps or installing custom rom ? Recently picked up a Tab S5e after price dropped to $399.99 for 6GB/128GB wifi unit. Now to decide on what to do with it, so slimmed down stock or custom? Now that it appears some time has gone by how do you rate your experience to date? Not sure if custom rom was an option available when you started with yours or not but would like to study options before making a decision. Info and insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

tek3195 said:
Hi, I'm curious as to what would be better. De-bloating and or deleting stock apps or installing custom rom ? Recently picked up a Tab S5e after price dropped to $399.99 for 6GB/128GB wifi unit. Now to decide on what to do with it, so slimmed down stock or custom? Now that it appears some time has gone by how do you rate your experience to date? Not sure if custom rom was an option available when you started with yours or not but would like to study options before making a decision. Info and insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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I went with, and highly recommend, installing a custom ROM—ANYTHING BUT HUAWEI! Icould go on about Huawei being a 'privately owned company' that is, ofc, at the very least influenced by the Chinese Communist Party and their goal of "EA3 Tracking"—my term for Google also, that means "Tracking Everyone Everywhere Eveything Always", but I won't. ?
I'm using Lineage OS. Still on 15.1 just because it's my secondary tablet now, and just haven't got around to it.
LOS is snappier, cleaner Android. No Google unless you choose to install it. No loss of functionality, imo, but I don't use 'fingerprint', which last I heard is still an issue for all LOS ROMs.

TiTiB said:
I went with, and highly recommend, installing a custom ROM—ANYTHING BUT HUAWEI! Icould go on about Huawei being a 'privately owned company' that is, ofc, at the very least influenced by the Chinese Communist Party and their goal of "EA3 Tracking"—my term for Google also, that means "Tracking Everyone Everywhere Eveything Always", but I won't.
I'm using Lineage OS. Still on 15.1 just because it's my secondary tablet now, and just haven't got around to it.
LOS is snappier, cleaner Android. No Google unless you choose to install it. No loss of functionality, imo, but I don't use 'fingerprint', which last I heard is still an issue for all LOS ROMs.
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Almost sounds like talking to myself, but in a good way. I too cannot stand google's data thieving and lies on top of lies. They already know more about everyone than most people understand. I have tried explaining it to some that can't understand we forget **** from time to time and google keeps record of it all. Therefore they know more about you than you do because they don't forget. Anyway, appreciate the response. Just downloaded LuisROM Unofficial RR even though EOL was a couple months ago. Not really wanting to go to Android 10 as I'm not always chasing latest and not necessarily greatest. Have to see how it takes to signature spoofing for micro-g. Finally couldn't agree more about Huawei, have one of their little tabs that I can't unlock or root and have a working twrp I ported for it when bootloader was unlockable (owned several) didn't think about it being un-lockable till I picked it up dirt cheap frp locked on ebay. Now can't do crap with it as far as unlock or root and I own a Sigma Key, so yeah Huawei sucks.

tek3195 said:
Almost sounds like talking to myself, but in a good way. I too cannot stand google's data thieving and lies on top of lies. They already know more about everyone than most people understand. I have tried explaining it to some that can't understand we forget **** from time to time and google keeps record of it all. Therefore they know more about you than you do because they don't forget. Anyway, appreciate the response. Just downloaded LuisROM Unofficial RR even though EOL was a couple months ago. Not really wanting to go to Android 10 as I'm not always chasing latest and not necessarily greatest. Have to see how it takes to signature spoofing for micro-g. Finally couldn't agree more about Huawei, have one of their little tabs that I can't unlock or root and have a working twrp I ported for it when bootloader was unlockable (owned several) didn't think about it being un-lockable till I picked it up dirt cheap frp locked on ebay. Now can't do crap with it as far as unlock or root and I own a Sigma Key, so yeah Huawei sucks.
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I woke up this morning and the first thing that popped in to my head was, "I just wrote a Huawei rant about a Samsung tablet on xda!" When I wrote it I had just finished a lengthy 'discussion with a, lets say naive friend, about Huawei, so I had all my Huawei/CCP stuff loaded up and ready to fire. ? The Google stuff still stands, though. Also, what wrote about LOS 15.1.
I'll never buy another Huawei anything because the aforementioned locking, in addition to my newfound distrust of anything to do with that company. I bought a Huawei M5 tablet a couple of years ago and had to pay some online site $15 bucks for an unlock key so I could root! Pissed me off so much!
BTW, since my previous post I came up with a few other initializations/acroynms for Everything Everywhere Everyone All-The-Time Tracking; feel free to use them:
E3AT3
EEEATTT
or just plain EAT

New S5e SM-T720, stay on stock or flash?

I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!

orangepowerpokes said:
I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!
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If I was going to use the tablet myself, I'd certainly flash a custom ROM and get root access. But for a 12yr old girl, I'd stay with stock and know she'd be getting the latest security updates. It's not like this was an 8 or 16gb tablet where getting rid of bloatware would be a major concern. It has plenty of storage and RAM to handle that. Just my two bits.

I only hand my son tablets / phones that can run custom ROMs (Lineage in particular). This way I can control what goes on them, what software, what he sees. I guess you could do similar things with a rooted stock device, but still. The other half of that is, most of the devices I give my son are old enough they aren't getting security updates from the manufacturers anymore. In those cases the only way to get security updates of any sort is to run custom ROMs.

Having rooted my tablet and also installed twrp I would certainly not do it for someone else to use
I would suggest buying package disabler pro and disabling all bloatware and Bixby.
When you use 'disable bloatware' on package disabler, it disables storage on sd card. So you just need to look through the disabled list and re-enable external storage.
Other than that small bug it is excellent.

ExTall said:
Having rooted my tablet and also installed twrp I would certainly not do it for someone else to use
I would suggest buying package disabler pro and disabling all bloatware and Bixby.
When you use 'disable bloatware' on package disabler, it disables storage on sd card. So you just need to look through the disabled list and re-enable external storage.
Other than that small bug it is excellent.
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Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.

miangelgabriel said:
Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.
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I can't really say as I installed package disabler pro when I first had the tablet as I hate apps like bixby.
My tablet has always seemed plenty fast to me
Regards Extall

Not much bloatware on One UI.
Sent from my SM-T720 using Tapatalk

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Have you noticed a performance improvement? I see that it is slow for ordinary use such as social networks, the web and reading books.
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I have read books with $29 dollar chinese knockoffs. How long does it take to turn a page? My very first tablet had an Antutu of about 900. This one about 185,000. I was still able to "surf the net" with that first one. They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm beginning to doubt that. I think it is in the MIND of the beholder. How anyone can consider this tablet slow for surfing or social networking, just blows my mind. "OH, but my latest and greatest iPad is just SOOO much better."

I can't remember having an Android device since my OG Droid that I didn't root and flash. I'm going to skip that for this S5e, for the first time. Everything I do with it these days, my head isn't bumping into it's 'ceiling', so to speak. My SM-T580 was a different story (thank goodness for @followmsi and @srgrussso among others), and custom paid off very well.
Then again, maybe I'm just getting old.:laugh: :highfive:

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I'm hoping someone can give me the general consensus on whether flashing ROMS for this device vs staying on stock is best. I'm not currently up on the state of Samsung bloatware, if it's gotten better or worse. I found an open box at BB for $300. I'd say excellent condition. I'm getting it for my 12 year old daughter. I suppose the main concern is the general stability of flashing, say Lineage, and the lag that Samsung has, or at least used to have, as they age.
Thanks much!
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I have the Verizon LTE version and even with the Verizon preinstalled apps it doesn't take up a lot of space. I have the 64GB version and I had PLENTY of space for all of my apps. I put a 512GB microSD card in it so I don't have any space issues.

I rooted the SM-T725 few months ago when i got it but this was the 3rd time i had problems booting up and the twrp backup didn't work this time so i just cleaned it and i use stock now and i removed bloatware with ADB. I use only open source software no more google. But that just my way, if you want to root go with it but if its just to remove bloatware just use ADB.
Android 10 coming this june/july and probably android 11 will come to this tablet too because samsung does 2 major android updates to the device they release. If they don't you can unlock the bootloader and install android 11 in the future if a developer make it of course but i doubt it because galaxy tab s6 lite is coming soon so i don't know the future of this tablet.

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OhioYJ said:
I only hand my son tablets / phones that can run custom ROMs (Lineage in particular). This way I can control what goes on them, what software, what he sees. I guess you could do similar things with a rooted stock device, but still. The other half of that is, most of the devices I give my son are old enough they aren't getting security updates from the manufacturers anymore. In those cases the only way to get security updates of any sort is to run custom ROMs.
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Just got this SM-T720 & was planning on putting Lineage 17.1 (OFFICIAL) on it.
Got the firmware, Magisk, TWRP all downloaded.
But on TWRP's site it says you have to root before installing a "rooted TWRP" image?
What's with this?
Not asking for a full tutorial but seriously TWRP can't just be flashed in Odin then vbmeta multi-
disabler, WIPE, then flash ROM + Magisk?
Any help will be greatly appreciated. My posts elsewhere are days old & no replies....
zach

I just got this tablet yesterday. I've had several previous Android tablets and phones and I've always rooted them. So far, I haven't run into anything that makes me want to root this one. I was pleasantly surprised to find that there is a battery protection setting that allows you to limit charging to 85%. Normally, you have too root to do that. I may find a need to root somewhere down the road, but right now I'm hoping to get by with stock and unroofed.

Can you keep dex on other ROMs?

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Just got this SM-T720 & was planning on putting Lineage 17.1 (OFFICIAL) on it.
Got the firmware, Magisk, TWRP all downloaded
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I've done it a few times and I would recommend following the maintainers instructions, LuK1337's Instructions . Dont skip anything, dont add anything, dont wipe anything that isnt listed, follow them exactly.
This tablet is picky. Magisk can be flashed in TWRP, but from what Ive found many modules can't, they will make the tablet fail to boot. Most modules can only be flashed in Magisk. My recommendation would be to get it booting before adding modules or even Magisk for that matter.

I'm using mine as stock, and this seems plenty fast for the 2 weeks I've owned it. Slow to read books? That sounds like an app problem - moon reader on a 2018 Fire HD 8 didn't have a problem reading books. How slow is the Fire 8? If I was in plex, hit the home button, and started netflix it was about 10 seconds from the press of the home button until netflix was responsive.
Besides, do you really want to have to fix your kid's devices when they inevitably have a problem?

**Edit** I also have a question. Are there any security issues when flashing roms or rooting on this like with the phones with KNoX and not being able to use secure folder and such? Im guessing if I flash a ROM I'd also be losing access to this right? (samsung apps and secure folder) Thank you!
Ughh Im kind of regretting buying this tablet now..did I make a mistake? From what Ive seen on here, it sounds like its best not to root it. Ive found that on some newer devices, irts best not to root them to avoid unnecessary problems because some just dont work well with root and magisk, especially if a lot of the modules arent going to work. I mean I dont really have any reason to root this except for not being able to use / change the themes. I cant believe they dont have the theme store on this tablet! I'm so bummed thats one of the good things about samsung phone that I miss.