Is Black Shark pro 2 12 /256gb Global version Developer Friendly - Xiaomi Black Shark 2 Questions & Answers

Hello Everyone,
I want to know If Black Shark pro 2 12 /256gb Is developer friendly or not.
I am not a developer but Can be considered advanced user. I want to know if Black Shark pro 2 12 /256gb Variant is Developer Friendly like rooting, Installing Twrp, Will I be able to do stock updates without losing twrp and rooting, Switching to custom Roms in future (Option should be available).
I am coming from redmi note 4 SD version So buying this phone will be a big purchase for me and if I purchase it I don't want any problems for next 3-4 years either Hardware or software related.
I will be using Black Shark pro 2 very very less for gaming but mostly for other heavy apps and lot of multi tasking. I want to know if BS pro 2 will be good for this.
I will be using this phone in India but it will be purchased outside India. After searching Internet I see I will not get warranty also.
Any help is highly Appreciated.
Thanks In Advance
Best Wishes

kk100 said:
Hello Everyone,
I want to know If Black Shark pro 2 12 /256gb Is developer friendly or not.
I am not a developer but Can be considered advanced user. I want to know if Black Shark pro 2 12 /256gb Variant is Developer Friendly like rooting, Installing Twrp, Will I be able to do stock updates without losing twrp and rooting, Switching to custom Roms in future (Option should be available).
I am coming from redmi note 4 SD version So buying this phone will be a big purchase for me and if I purchase it I don't want any problems for next 3-4 years either Hardware or software related.
I will be using Black Shark pro 2 very very less for gaming but mostly for other heavy apps and lot of multi tasking. I want to know if BS pro 2 will be good for this.
I will be using this phone in India but it will be purchased outside India. After searching Internet I see I will not get warranty also.
Any help is highly Appreciated.
Thanks In Advance
Best Wishes
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Developer friendly no, there is no kernel source code, even official BlackShark forum is removed from site so again big no for custom roms or recoveries.
And as for other things, go for it. It is a beast of device, it will successfully solve any task you throw at it.

tw1st3d83 said:
Developer friendly no, there is no kernel source code, even official BlackShark forum is removed from site so again big no for custom roms or recoveries.
And as for other things, go for it. It is a beast of device, it will successfully solve any task you throw at it.
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Thanks a lot for replying. Really Appreciate it.
I am really frustrated. I want to know if I will not even get Twrp and rooting and Titanium Backup in BS pro 2 12/256gb Global version.
Twrp has saved my RN4 many times from 1-2 times bricked and many times from bootloop.
Realme x2 pro mobile 12/256gb is also not developer friendly nor is Asus rog 2 12gb/256gb.
Tried a lot to get K20 Pro 12 gb ram 512gb premium edition now Xiaomi Mi 9t pro 12gb/512gb. I hear its one of the favourites here at Xda.
Any good phone in $400-500 range with 12gb ram 256gb or 512gb memory and good processor like 855+ or better and developer friendly with forum support.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
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Is the Redmi 2 still worth it?

Hey all,
This is my first post in quite a while on XDA, since I was basically forced to move to IOS (my Ascend Mate 7 was stolen a few months ago ).
I really, really miss Android, and wish to return to the ecosystem that I love most by buying a "cheap and cheerful" Android device out of contract. Xiaomi devices have started popping up in my local stores, thus I was wondering if you guys can offer any insight on whether moving to the Redmi 2 would garner a satisfactory experience (coming from an iPhone 5s)? I wouldn't label myself as a power user anymore, though I am a huge fan of tweaking and ricing my phones, thus I do not need a octa-core gazillion GB RAM powerhouse (yet). Just enough to do all the usual phone stuff and perhaps play Downwell / Pocket Morties every once in a while. Does the Redmi stand up to these needs?
Also if I do pick one up I will absolutely stick a Cyanogenmod (or equivalent) ROM on the phone, thus can anyone comment on performance gain / loss after flashing a custom ROM? Are there any ROM suggestions for daily use (I probably won't flash a different ROM every week, but rather settle on the most stable and closest-to-stock ROM I can find)?
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers! :good:
I think Redmi 2 Pro/Prime is still worth it, but not sure about 2/2A. Even miui 8 for redmi 2 is based on kitkat while pro/prime seems to be based on lollipop. Features like second space and other new things that miui 8 brings are absent from kitkat version.
Now, CM13 is getting pretty stable, and premaca and nick are working on Nougat and CM14, and not only this, it boots. Thee are not a lot of phones running Nougatand Redmi 2 is one of those few add to this the price and could sound ad a no-brainer.

hi new op5 user

Hello people. I'm a new user to the oneplus5. I got the 8gb 128 at a price for £110 in the UK . I'm very surprised at how quick fluent and fast this device is even if it is hitting the 2 year old device. Now I'm going to ask if there's any non root mods I should be aware of, I don't want to root or flash a custom ROM just yet as I'm really enjoying my experience on stock.
ttocs99 said:
Hello people. I'm a new user to the oneplus5. I got the 8gb 128 at a price for £110 in the UK . I'm very surprised at how quick fluent and fast this device is even if it is hitting the 2 year old device. Now I'm going to ask if there's any non root mods I should be aware of, I don't want to root or flash a custom ROM just yet as I'm really enjoying my experience on stock.
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Welcome to the OnePlus family! I would recommend Nova launcher (prime) to start. Download it from the Play Store.

Are we going to get custom roms?

Has any developer started with los and other custom roms? I can find any thread in roms and kernel section.
The phone only just came out, you need to be patient. Its not as popular as the PRO.
So far I have seen that a Mokee developer is working on it : https://github.com/davinci-dev
I will be waiting on some quality roms before buying this phone.
There's a lot of developer activity on the k20 pro forum the past few days, so hopefully the regular k20/mi 9t gets some attention too. My mi 9t should be arriving this week, and I really don't want to have to use MIUI forever.
I think at the end, the better choice to avoid problems, is to leave the global from the day of purchase
lulloo96 said:
I think at the end, the better choice to avoid problems, is to leave the global from the day of purchase
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miui is trash, and im not going to buy the phone if there are no alternatives.
I notice that it's not popular as the Pro and i think there will no be change about this, every day there are new rom, new update with the K20 Pro but not K20
K20 is equally popular but problem is broken kernel try hence once it is fixed we will surly get roms and kernels
Sent from my Redmi K20 using Tapatalk
KudoConan said:
I notice that it's not popular as the Pro and i think there will no be change about this, every day there are new rom, new update with the K20 Pro but not K20
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We already have two roms here for the k20 and devs are actively working on it.
krishna_jm said:
We already have two roms here for the k20 and devs are actively working on it.
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Hope to get more

Redmi K20 or Redmi K20 Pro

Hey Guys!
I am in a bit of pickle with both phones and i need your advise which is valuable to me as you guys are already using one of the both devices, so guys which one you suggest me to buy K20 or K20 Pro and i know K20 Pro have SD855.
P.S also tell me how are the both phones development wise (Custom roms etc)
Thanks
Buy one of them...
We don't know what you need, so maybe some more info? I use phone mostly to call, send SMS, WhatsApp, gps, browser and with stock miui it's just fine, after some mods and with custom ROM it's great. PPSSPP and fpse is working on high without hiccups
I suggest you buy the best phone that you can afford, whichever it is.
d3rws said:
I suggest you buy the best phone that you can afford, whichever it is.
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Affording isn't a factor for me so
yaro666 said:
Buy one of them...
We don't know what you need, so maybe some more info? I use phone mostly to call, send SMS, WhatsApp, gps, browser and with stock miui it's just fine, after some mods and with custom ROM it's great. PPSSPP and fpse is working on high without hiccups
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I need new roms that's why i asked about development LOL i also use my phone for all those things you mentioned and more
Get pro, more roms, more power. If price has no difference for you don't bother
Go with pro.
Better Phone over all, the white is gorgeous, many, MANY more ROMs, Kernels and TWRPS (even ORIGINAL Orange Fox). Only get the T if you really like the phone and can't by any mean get the Pro.
Neither is worth it. Buy Oneplus 7 Pro. Much better devices with better community. I made a mistake by purchasing the Mi9T.

Questions from a potential Oneplus 8 buyer

I am considering moving to a Oneplus 8 Pro or maybe 8T. I have been using an HTC U11 running Team Venom roms for years but with them no longer developing and no updates coming it is time to consider moving on.
I have read some posts on rooting and it seems pretty straight forward. I'm assuming that TWRP will eventually have a recovery unless there is information to the contrary that I haven't seen? How does the Oneplus 8 run with the stock rom but with root access? I know this is subjective but would you recommend another rom rather than staying stock if I root?
I feel like I will regret not having an external SD card but I guess that can't be a deal breaker since a lot of phones don't have them now.
Thanks in advance for your input.
PieceKeepr said:
I am considering moving to a Oneplus 8 Pro or maybe 8T. I have been using an HTC U11 running Team Venom roms for years but with them no longer developing and no updates coming it is time to consider moving on.
I have read some posts on rooting and it seems pretty straight forward. I'm assuming that TWRP will eventually have a recovery unless there is information to the contrary that I haven't seen? How does the Oneplus 8 run with the stock rom but with root access? I know this is subjective but would you recommend another rom rather than staying stock if I root?
I feel like I will regret not having an external SD card but I guess that can't be a deal breaker since a lot of phones don't have them now.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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Hello there,
Long time HTC use myself since the beginning (G1 days)
I have to say that the 8 pro is a stellar device which absolutely ticks single box, plus it looks slightly funky too which as an ex HTC owner I really like that.
TWRP actually is not needed at all.
Magisk ROMs install using magisk, AOSP, PA, pixel ROMs all install using a bat file inst adb / fastboot, to rescue you can do several things.
For magisk ROMs that fail simply boot to safe mode then reboot and they'll be deactivated.
For custom ROM recovery you have several choices, the main one is the MSM tool which is an official OnePlus deployment / maintenance tool that can return you to stock in a few minutes, the other would be to extract the payload.bin of a firmware (the ROM part) then use the installer bat you used to install the custom ROM.
Kernels can be installed using a kernel manager like ex kernel manager so no worries there.
As for a functional TWRP. If you remain on Android 10 then you have it. 11 is currently being worked on and is making great strides from some talented Devs.
In all it's a good situation, the phone is brilliant; no two ways about it, the community is thriving and when you notice it go quiet it's usually because everything for everyone is working perfectly, I personally couldn't go back to HTC now unless they dropped a true beast of a phone.
The only gripe I have about the whole device and development community is the camera on custom ROMs, it's GCam or third party software which for most is ok. But I missed the stability of OOS and using all four cameras.
That being said there more than enough to keep you occupied and flashing the best ROMs you'll find on XDA, that will only continue and get stronger.
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I have to say that the 8 pro is a stellar device...
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That was my impression based on what I've read. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
I'm most likely going to pick one up sometime in next few weeks or so and I'm thinking about rooting and running the stock rom just to see how it goes and be able to make full system backups just in case. I'm sure more development will be done and it should be viable for a good while.
Thanks again.
PieceKeepr said:
That was my impression based on what I've read. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.
I'm most likely going to pick one up sometime in next few weeks or so and I'm thinking about rooting and running the stock rom just to see how it goes and be able to make full system backups just in case. I'm sure more development will be done and it should be viable for a good while.
Thanks again.
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Yea my thoughts exactly, initially I wanted to root and go a bit nuts but the stock OS is actually really well made, I use CPL launcher to give me the extra options visually.
I turn off zram and make a few CPU / GPU tweaks in ex manager but beyond that I don't need anything else.
If you can't be bothered debloating or you want mods with the stock OOS then choose xXx or R-Ice.
Again there will be more.
From what I read, the 8T is a downgrade from the 8 Pro. I'm looking to see the 9 Pro, and if it's not great, I'm going to get another 8 Pro. =)
reilus said:
From what I read, the 8T is a downgrade from the 8 Pro. I'm looking to see the 9 Pro, and if it's not great, I'm going to get another 8 Pro. =)
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Is there an 8T pro?
The 9 pro should be a beast but....
Not sure where they can go in regards to innovation but they're on a particular path now, but the size can't be bigger, it's already IP certified and has wireless charging, RAM is maxed out.
I think the major changes are going to be the battery, maybe the cameras (again), possibly audio and hopefully efficiency.
Maybe a more dedicated gaming mode or some aftermarket peripherals like the ROG and razor.
Time will tell but I like the formula they have with the 8 pro, the build quality is superb.
Perhaps the screen will be upgraded too.
The 9 & 9 Pro are sounding better and better! Can't wait...
OnePlus 9 Pro review: One of the best Android phones you can get
The OnePlus 9 Pro is a nearly perfect Android phone
www.tomsguide.com
galaxys said:
The 9 & 9 Pro are sounding better and better! Can't wait...
OnePlus 9 Pro review: One of the best Android phones you can get
The OnePlus 9 Pro is a nearly perfect Android phone
www.tomsguide.com
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Yep that's kind of what I was saying.. (well I wasn't far off) same size, camera upgrade, no word on gaming but I like the direction they were going with that, other things like wireless charging and IP have been done and as such they're staying, no word on audio but hopefully they do bump that up.
I think Moore's law is finally dying on mobile chips the 865 and coupled adreno in the 8 pro are stupendous chips, the games that it's capable of running beats the Shields Nvidia chip which is considerable when you think about it and unless the 888 doubles up, it's an evolution rather than revolutionary chip In comparison.
I'm not sure I'd bother getting the 9 or 9 pro, I don't see the upgrade worth it. If I was on a 6 or maybe a 7 pro then perhaps but the 8 pro for the first time in my android life actually is going to last it's contract duration due to it being such a strong phone, unless maybe you've got screen issues.
Unless they add aperture control to the camera
U never know
Was a HTC fun. Awesome phones, but soft upgrades suck.
I recomend 8 Pro. Now you can buy it cheap from online sales forums. I pay 570 euro for just the phone (like new). I already have warp charger and cables. 8/128 gb new cost 900 euro.
Unfortunately 9 pro will not be much of a difference. "Leaks" SD 888, some camera updates, 65w warp charge. Wireless still 30w. Still Great. I use it. It's awesome.
512gb memory it will hurt the price bad.
My hope was that they give us a square flat screen with no creap front camera.
My new 8 Pro arrived today. I'm going to leave it stock while I get it set up and get used to it. I know I'll want to root it soon though and I'm seeing a couple different root methods. What is the recommended method that most are using for simple yet reliable rooting?
I did not try to root on Android 11. So i rollback to Android 10 (some months ago)
My safe instalation: i was on Android 11, i go back (rollback zip) to Android 10.
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Then use dladz guide to root :
(GUIDE) Unlocking bootloader, Rooting - from start to finish UPDATED.
Hi all, Have looked around the guides and such on these threads for the Oneplus 8 Pro and haven't found a full comprehensive guide outlining all parts of the bootloader unlocking and root process, so thought I'd put together my experience for...
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Steps to upgrade and keep root:
1- Uninstall ALL Magisk modules (if you have any). Reboot to System.
2- install Oos stable or open beta with Settings > Local upgrade . DON'T reboot!!!
3- Open Magisk > Install. Choose (Install to inactive slot after' OTA). DON'T reboot !!!
4- Back in Magisk > Install > Direct install.
5- Reboot to system.
Now you are on the latest version of Android and root.
PieceKeepr said:
My new 8 Pro arrived today. I'm going to leave it stock while I get it set up and get used to it. I know I'll want to root it soon though and I'm seeing a couple different root methods. What is the recommended method that most are using for simple yet reliable rooting?
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As @null0seven said there's a few, the bootloader one is one of mine.
I have a payload dumper thread in guides, it outlines all the methods to root, the one Null has mentioned is the bootloader unlock although the root method is a little dated now. Probably best to stick with booting rather than flashing patched images.
There's two slots on the OnePlus 8 Pro.
A and B
They can carry different images independently, although only one can be used at a time.
Give the booting a patched image of the guide a look at it's the easiest.
When it comes to updating simply remove active magisk modules, take the update but don't reboot or the update will replace the patched boot image.
Whilst in the above state magisk has the ability to patch on the fly, this is due to the update alternating boot image slots.
So the method of root when taking an OTA (which must be full btw) is to take the update then without rebooting, open magisk and flash to open slot, then simply reboot and you're back in the new OS with root and all your data/apps and storage has been retained as you left it.
All this is outlined in the guide.
If you get stuck let me know or just pop a question in there, either myself or someone else will help you. But the guides should be though, plus nearly every scenario has played out in there so check search too.
Thank you @null0seven and @dladz. I feel like such a noob now that I switched devices for the first time in years. I'm already missing root (Ad blocking and debloating for sure) so that'll be a project for later today or tomorrow.
PieceKeepr said:
Thank you @null0seven and @dladz. I feel like such a noob now that I switched devices for the first time in years. I'm already missing root (Ad blocking and debloating for sure) so that'll be a project for later today or tomorrow.
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No worries man.
It's really easy tbh.
My advice is make friends with payload dumper and oxygen updater, always use the beta version of magisk, just change the channel to beta then update.
Beyond that it's a doddle.
Rooting was easier than it looked and was successful. Thanks for the guide @dladz!
I'm struggling trying to get R/W access so I can debloat. Titanium Backup says it can't find the apk, Root Uninstaller says it can't aquire the proper permissions and from what I have read there is no way to grant access in the newer versions of Android. Is my only option to flash a new ROM or is there another way to remove apps that I don't want?
PieceKeepr said:
Rooting was easier than it looked and was successful. Thanks for the guide @dladz!
I'm struggling trying to get R/W access so I can debloat. Titanium Backup says it can't find the apk, Root Uninstaller says it can't aquire the proper permissions and from what I have read there is no way to grant access in the newer versions of Android. Is my only option to flash a new ROM or is there another way to remove apps that I don't want?
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you're very welcome mate, glad you're sorted.
So what i would do is one of two things. You can either uninstall the apps using ADB or you can freeze them, tbh freezing has been spot on for me.
I've nuked with ADB the ones i really hate.
OR NoLimits xXx has a great debloater tool.
System doesn't have access anymore unless it's unmounted i believe, so magisk can obtain access (i could be wrong there but i think that's how it is able to make changes there)
Heres a great guide on the adb uninstall process: https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
If theres an app you want to get rid of just google search it and go from there.
Just got my One plus 8 pro for $550 256gb. I was thinking of waiting out for the OnePlus 9 pro but kinda don't wanna pay 1k
Nitro1010 said:
Just got my One plus 8 pro for $550 256gb. I was thinking of waiting out for the OnePlus 9 pro but kinda don't wanna pay 1k
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Great Buy! Enjoy a OnePlus classic device...
Nitro1010 said:
Just got my One plus 8 pro for $550 256gb. I was thinking of waiting out for the OnePlus 9 pro but kinda don't wanna pay 1k
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Ridiculous price, nice one.
Any more in stock or was it a private seller?
dladz said:
Ridiculous price, nice one.
Any more in stock or was it a private seller?
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Private Seller, met on offer up so everything was cash. Original box and charger. And Day 1 screen protector on the front(so no scratches I can see for now both front and back). Bezel has the most wear. Paint chip on top right and tiny paint wear from repeated probing of the sim car slot hole. Overall I feel like it's a good buy for the price I got it at

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