Low light - Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Real Life Review

At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
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Low light performance is awesome. Better than my previously owned S20 Ultra
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Al3xxxinho said:
Low light performance is awesome. Better than my previously owned S20 Ultra
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Nice, are these taken using gcam?

No, they were taken using the xiaomi camera app and night mode

Al3xxxinho said:
Low light performance is awesome. Better than my previously owned S20 Ultra
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Wow that looks awesome! Thanks for sharing.

This place was very dark.
Stock xiaomi camera.
It's simply awesome

I'm not trying to be offensive but are you sure that those pics are better than s20ultra?
I feel I can take those pics with my note 10+

Makonator said:
I'm not trying to be offensive but are you sure that those pics are better than s20ultra?
I feel I can take those pics with my note 10+
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I agree only that it can't outperform S20Ultra - only to match sometimes. It has been proven that for Mi Note 10/ Mi 10 Pro there is better processing than S20 Ultra looking at the details. Even 9 to 1 bining does not work that good with this gen. But the margin is so small and noticable only in pixel peeping. Xiaomi's native cam night mode is very bad from Mi Note 10 and Mi 10 - I see that with this model 10T Pro they improved a little. Hope this will be fixed with updates in future.
For Note10+ I would not compare these much - yes for resolution like 'instagram' it would match looking at small scale, but at even slightly zoomed in (especialy in PC) it really outperforms Note10+ at everywhere - this is for night mode (gcam used on xiaomi). At day time yes, Note 10 series processing is great, only it lacks looking inspection at details. But for most uses the rendering on samsung is way aheat comparing to native xiaomi app (not gcam).

Makonator said:
I'm not trying to be offensive but are you sure that those pics are better than s20ultra?
I feel I can take those pics with my note 10+
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I doubt it is better than S20 Ultra.
I am not so impressed by this camera, when I take pictures of the letters on a Fanta can the letters are not sharp but with my Mi Mix 2S it is sharp.
I haven't tried to take pictures outside in daylight yet.

freeDom21 said:
I agree only that it can't outperform S20Ultra - only to match sometimes. It has been proven that for Mi Note 10/ Mi 10 Pro there is better processing than S20 Ultra looking at the details. Even 9 to 1 bining does not work that good with this gen. But the margin is so small and noticable only in pixel peeping. Xiaomi's native cam night mode is very bad from Mi Note 10 and Mi 10 - I see that with this model 10T Pro they improved a little. Hope this will be fixed with updates in future.
For Note10+ I would not compare these much - yes for resolution like 'instagram' it would match looking at small scale, but at even slightly zoomed in (especialy in PC) it really outperforms Note10+ at everywhere - this is for night mode (gcam used on xiaomi). At day time yes, Note 10 series processing is great, only it lacks looking inspection at details. But for most uses the rendering on samsung is way aheat comparing to native xiaomi app (not gcam).
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I've received some pics from mi10t pro (stock app) and compared with my gcam note 10+...Even on zoom in difference is minor.
I'm asking this coz I'm thinking of selling note 10+ and getting this one...than put gcam on it...Problem is, I like note (looks, spen, screen, ONE UI)...but I do love camera upgrade.

Makonator said:
I've received some pics from mi10t pro (stock app) and compared with my gcam note 10+...Even on zoom in difference is minor.
I'm asking this coz I'm thinking of selling note 10+ and getting this one...than put gcam on it...Problem is, I like note (looks, spen, screen, ONE UI)...but I do love camera upgrade.
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If gcam works on your note 10+, so its SD 855 processor?
In that case I would wait for next gen, Note10+ overall offers better experience.

freeDom21 said:
If gcam works on your note 10+, so its SD 855 processor?
In that case I would wait for next gen, Note10+ overall offers better experience.
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It's exynos and it works...there is only one gcam for exy. called zgcam...custom cfg etc...problem is in one ui 2.5...samsung lock RAW on front cam...

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Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei Mate 10 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
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Here are my first batch of photos taken with the Mate 10 Pro.
https://jmcomms.com/2017/10/17/huawei-mate-10-pro-camera-images-part-1/
Superb work
dayum, it really looks like a step up from the Mate 9. Just read the in-depth DxOMark review, any chance we can see some extreme low light shots that would require flash?
Did some comparisons:
Huawei Mate 10 Pro vs. Mate 9 - https://touchit.sk/fototest-huawei-mate-10-pro-medzigeneracne-porovnanie-s-huawei-mate-9/139031
Mate 10 Pro vs. Galaxy Note8 vs. iPhone 8 Plus - https://touchit.sk/fototest-dualnyc...-samsung-galaxy-note8-vo-dne-aj-v-noci/138438
Sorry it is in Slovak language, but I hope you can get the point from pictures themselves
This is great. Which do you think was better
Here is another gallery with shots from BMW Welt and BMW Museum - https://photos.app.goo.gl/CClLDNmkeyXnf2a93
A Look at Huawei Mate 10's AI-Assisted Low Light Photography
https://fstoppers.com/originals/look-huawei-mate-10s-ai-assisted-low-light-photography-201821
Huawei Mate 10 Pro vs Google Pixel 2 XL https://wylsa.com/google-pixel-2-xl-vs-mate-10/
Grigorijs said:
Huawei Mate 10 Pro vs Google Pixel 2 XL https://wylsa.com/google-pixel-2-xl-vs-mate-10/
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Mate 10 wins on all pics!? Have I got them the wrong way round? Mate 10 on left?
mwatson said:
Mate 10 wins on all pics!? Have I got them the wrong way round? Mate 10 on left?
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Yes, you're right - Mate 10 Pro on the left side.
For me Mate 10 Pro is better on three photos, except the photo with "Danger"
Grigorijs said:
Yes, you're right - Mate 10 Pro on the left side.
For me Mate 10 Pro is better on three photos, except the photo with "Danger"
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Yeah I agree with that, You can see the texture of the sign board more on the pixel. Decision made, Gotta get the Mate 10 P, I just hope they keep up with the updates :fingers-crossed:
Well got it delivered today (10 Pro) so tested out the camera
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I was a little surprised to find the RGB camera isn't 12mb like advertised too, it's 11.8

			
				
Comparison between P10+ & Mate10 at ISO1000. Mate10 noise reduction is too strong until lost of colors & some details has been smoothen. P10+ handle it much better & more natural. Hope Huawei will improve in this area.
I am also dissapointed by mate 10 photo quality. In daylight its worse than my old galaxy s4!
Noise reduction is too strong, sharpening is just way too strong and contrast is too strong. Pictures look completely artificial.
JPG are almost useless on 4K good screen.
On the other side - raw files are great.
My Mate 10 arrived yesterday, sampled out the camera this morning. I'm so impressed with the entire Phone so far, but the camera is really something.
The forum has reduced the quality of these quite a bit.
Is possible some of our camera are defective? I haven't been impressed at all with it. Especially in low light the pictures look a bit rubbish. The u11 and original pixel xl looked a lot better
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Is possible some of our camera are defective? I haven't been impressed at all with it. Especially in low light the pictures look a bit rubbish. The u11 and original pixel xl looked a lot better
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I agree. I've been comparing the Note 8 and M10 Pro... and when i send them to people to tell me what they think, most of them come back to me by telling me the N8 is much better. I am using the Zero camera mod on the N8, and it seems that it really makes the pictures better. Honestly i was expecting much better.
Did you try the M10 on "moving subjects"? like babies, dogs, cars... for me it just has a hard time focusing. Of course, this on auto mode... on pro, and when you take still pictures it looks really nice. I also realised that the color isn't very warm, tends to go on the blue cold then warm.
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I agree. I've been comparing the Note 8 and M10 Pro... and when i send them to people to tell me what they think, most of them come back to me by telling me the N8 is much better. I am using the Zero camera mod on the N8, and it seems that it really makes the pictures better. Honestly i was expecting much better.
Did you try the M10 on "moving subjects"? like babies, dogs, cars... for me it just has a hard time focusing. Of course, this on auto mode... on pro, and when you take still pictures it looks really nice. I also realised that the color isn't very warm, tends to go on the blue cold then warm.
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I haven't really taken loads of pics outside mainly low light... But what I have taken is a bit washed out and haven't been impressed.
I think the hardware is as good as the other flagships and I heard you can get better pictures in pro mode. The software side obviously isn't doing a very good job and needs updating

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Nokia 8 Sirocco come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/B9v21ygCPkCMSn7M8
Xz2 compact vs Sirocco
N8 is used with Gcam. Both is on Auto mode. Without bettering.
And here with updatet Nokia Camera.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/QnkGuvW28xFAnJ6G8
I come to Sirocco from a long line of Xperia`s. I can say that the camera is extremely disappointing on Sirocco. Very bad camera, it is impossible to take a clear photo if you even just move a little. Also the processing is horrible or completely missing (i was expecting a lot more from a pure android).
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I come to Sirocco from a long line of Xperia`s. I can say that the camera is extremely disappointing on Sirocco. Very bad camera, it is impossible to take a clear photo if you even just move a little. Also the processing is horrible or completely missing (i was expecting a lot more from a pure android).
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I had any flagship Xperia in last years. Now have Xz2 compact. I compare cameras every day. Nokia with Google cam and last updated Nokia cam is better than Sony. In daylight better colors. In low light better detailing. In low light for landscapes must not use flash.
propov said:
I had any flagship Xperia in last years. Now have Xz2 compact. I compare cameras every day. Nokia with Google cam and last updated Nokia cam is better than Sony. In daylight better colors. In low light better detailing. In low light for landscapes must not use flash.
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Are you sure? Maybe you testing on a tripod?
Before this i had a Z5c and it was a lot better, especially in low light. Nokia has to much noise (especially in low light) and lacks details (it is very evident if you zoom in a photo).
But the worst part, it has almost no stabilization, witch in a day to day use (without tripods, ideal lighting.....) by a average user with average knowledge in photography it outputs crappy photos, distorted, unfocused. This is why i call it bad (as most users that do). The sensor itself might be good, but no OIS and bad software combined with a bootloader impossible to be unlocked (so no custom software or proper ports of apps like camera with advanced processing algorithms for the exact hardware) will result in a very expensive (flagship) brick.
So, to resume all the above : Sony is better than Nokia in almost every way (the only exception is the design, the only reason i bought the Sirocco).
Here 2 posts upper I had posted comprasion between xz2c and Sirocco. Have pics in twilight and in total dark. For me Nokia(with Google cam app) is equal to Sony . I have and S8 too. S8 overexposed night shots and and I dont like that. Have you ever tryed Google camera app?
propov said:
Here 2 posts upper I had posted comprasion between xz2c and Sirocco. Have pics in twilight and in total dark. For me Nokia(with Google cam app) is equal to Sony . I have and S8 too. S8 overexposed night shots and and I dont like that. Have you ever tryed Google camera app?
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I`m using a Gcam port for MI6. It works a lot better than the stock, and it does some pretty good photos, but only with the HDR+ enhanced mode. The disadvantage is that this port cannot use the second camera (the telephoto one).
If the bootloader could be unlocked and with the complete source code, someone could make a good Gcam port for this phone.
P.s. : Nokia 8 has a very different camera comparing to Nokia 8 Sirocco edition. The N8 has a secondary monochrome camera and it has OIS. N8s does not have OIS and the secondary camera is for telephoto only.
So basically the N8 has a much better camera comparing to the N8s, and the photos should be a lot better, comparable to a Sony flagship.
Im using Pixel port Gcam version. And i think that with any ports second camera didnt works.
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Marmalux said:
I`m using a Gcam port for MI6. It works a lot better than the stock, and it does some pretty good photos, but only with the HDR+ enhanced mode. The disadvantage is that this port cannot use the second camera (the telephoto one).
If the bootloader could be unlocked and with the complete source code, someone could make a good Gcam port for this phone.
P.s. : Nokia 8 has a very different camera comparing to Nokia 8 Sirocco edition. The N8 has a secondary monochrome camera and it has OIS. N8s does not have OIS and the secondary camera is for telephoto only.
So basically the N8 has a much better camera comparing to the N8s, and the photos should be a lot better, comparable to a Sony flagship.
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Now that the bootloader is unlocked for Nokia 8. Let's hope that they unlock it for Nokia 8 Sirocco as well. And we might see a really good Gcam port that uses both the cameras on the back cause Nokia Camera app is really bad. I don't think they will get it right for a long time. Gcam is far far ahead of them. I don't know how things work around there but maybe they can collaborate with Google to work on more enhanced camera app. I'm just blaberring here.
vs iphone 7
Comprasion Sirocco vs Iphone 7.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qg8UYsAmbZTwoxr67
propov said:
Comprasion Sirocco vs Iphone 7.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qg8UYsAmbZTwoxr67
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Did you use Gcam on Sirocco?

Low light

At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the OnePlus 6's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
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very bad....sorry to say it!
It is much better though than many 12mpxl cameras of the past without any low-light tricks. But it still sucks.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13038/the-oneplus-6-review/8
V30 with MUCH smaller sensor and pixels obliterates OP6 with its pixel binning. Op5T had pixel binning, but it had it on a sensor without OIS. Hence nobody liked op5t low light blurry mess shots. I have no idea why OP6 devs cant just port pixel binning software to the main camera with OIS and see how it obliterates competetion.
I wish we had somebody who can make this happen. Just make a port of op5T second camera binning software to op6 main camera and have a best allround flagship killing camera. Is it that hard?
I would say its quite good. I compared this with my friend that owns Samsung S8. My photo came out a lot of sharper with so much light in contrast of his photo that came out a little blurry and with less light on photo.
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Colour temperature is not accurate....too much yellow....
Mord0rr said:
Colour temperature is not accurate....too much yellow....
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But if the lights were yellow then? :s
Only him know how the scene looked as the picture was taken.
Im saying it on basis of my OP6 too... but of course, im not sure.
Mord0rr said:
Im saying it on basis of my OP6 too... but of course, im not sure.
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So you're not sure how the scenery looked or which color the street light has and you still say that it's too much yellow... "okay".
Uauuu....we have here a "Spock" logical person...
And how about this photo?
Too much what in your wise opinion?
Coming from Nexus 6p, feels like Oneplus 6 is a downgrade when it came to low-light camera performance.. Some samples below..
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6000 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
tOrNadO™ said:
Coming from Nexus 6p, feels like Oneplus 6 is a downgrade when it came to low-light camera performance.. Some samples below..
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6000 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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Yeah, it's not forgiving when you use point and shoot mode!
I found turning off hdr makes better pictures. However, lots of reports says 5.1.7 has better low light performance. So one can only hope an update makes it better. Or we just have to hope that when the pixel 3 comes, we can use resources from Google cam for 845 snapdragon.
We hope.....
When zooming the photos...the horror starts....what disappointing!
Mord0rr said:
We hope.....
When zooming the photos...the horror starts....what disappointing!
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But if I zoom in on the p20 pro pictures I feel the same... In fact all cell cameras if you zoom just look horrible not made for zooming in tbh. Looks better if looked at a bigger screen.
I own other phone less expensive with Gcam, and zooming the detail is more present...
My daughter face is full of grain and lacks detail...
I've never owned a "premium" phone before and I must say that I'm actually quite impressed with the low-light photo quality - I was having a tour through a cavern, took a few photos and they've actually shown more detail than I could even see! Of course, when I looked at them on a big screen, the photos were noisy and oversharpened, but they were definitely an "instagramable" material and that's what counts for me.
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Coming from Nexus 6p, feels like Oneplus 6 is a downgrade when it came to low-light camera performance.. Some samples below..
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6000 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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Indeed
Big failure are usual in low light
Nexus 6p was amazing with face details and low light was good
Stock nightmode
GCAM NIGHT SIGHT for OnePlus 6
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6-oneplus-6t-get-working-night-sight-mode-from-pixel-3/amp/

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Mi 9 SE come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
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i made a comparison between Mi 8 And Mi 9 se Camera
it,s obvious that mi 9 se have better camera either main camera or zoom lens
mi9 se ultra-wide lens is not that good but i think it gets better with software improvement and when google camera will be available for ultra wide lens
all photos taken with AI on and HDR off
HDR in Mi 9 se make photos worse but i guess it should get fixed in the future update
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1X7tT1T1Y3y2qNVZ4puKrPMKgIRjtFOHi?usp=sharing
here is more camera sample:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Md8fHTcW0IAvC-NdmDaU2__-rMBJ6loT?usp=sharing
one thing that i don't understand is that zoom lens is 8 MP but image output is 12 MP!!
daniyal62 said:
i made a comparison between Mi 8 And Mi 9 se Camera
it,s obvious that mi 9 se have better camera either main camera or zoom lens
mi9 se ultra-wide lens is not that good but i think it gets better with software improvement and when google camera will be available for ultra wide lens
all photos taken with AI on and HDR off
HDR in Mi 9 se make photos worse but i guess it should get fixed in the future update
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1X7tT1T1Y3y2qNVZ4puKrPMKgIRjtFOHi?usp=sharing
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Hi daniyal62, have you tried GCam on Mi9 SE? I'm thinking of buying it but I have some doubts about the quality of the camera (I now have a Nexus 6P which does great shots in any condition) and judging by your shots it could improve with the GCam.
Leyous said:
Hi daniyal62, have you tried GCam on Mi9 SE? I'm thinking of buying it but I have some doubts about the quality of the camera (I now have a Nexus 6P which does great shots in any condition) and judging by your shots it could improve with the GCam.
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hello i am very satisfied with the image quality yes i have gcam but i rarely use it because stock app most of the time take better image than gcam
daniyal62 said:
hello i am very satisfied with the image quality yes i have gcam but i rarely use it because stock app most of the time take better image than gcam
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Dadash dar kol mi 8 ro bedam bere va mi 9 se begirm vase tanavoo khube??
Dorbin o display o battery kodom bhtre
daniyal62 said:
i made a comparison between Mi 8 And Mi 9 se Camera
it,s obvious that mi 9 se have better camera either main...
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1X7tT1T1Y3y2qNVZ4puKrPMKgIRjtFOHi?usp=sharing
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Thanks for the effort appreciate it!
I have Mi 9 SE since it became available in EU, April. There are some small things which bother me. One of them is camera. I tried latest gcam but it crashes and can't be used normally. I found that camera is worst in artificial lighting conditions. Both, main and selfie camera.
I visited Samsung brand store last week and tried to make selfies with almost all of their latest models. What surprised me is that selfies were better also on low budget Samsung phones compared to those I made with my Mi 9 SE in the same room under the same conditions. Room has lights on the ceiling and that was the biggest problem for Mi 9 SE - photos were foggy. Unfortunately I didn't save photos to show you examples.
The same problem occurred with main camera. I have one photo made by my phone, even Night mode was enabled while making that photo. You can see what I'm complaining about: drive.google.com/open?id=1-VvaDb8AQHGUKa5DVWNdEq3AfUsLkkSU
How does your phones act? Is there way to fix that problem?
My photos are Foggy too
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I would not buy this phone if Gcam did not exist.
With Gcam this phone takes at least better pics than iPhone X.
Also it really depends which Gcam you use and which settings you prefer.
Androidzor said:
I would not buy this phone if Gcam did not exist.
With Gcam this phone takes at least better pics than iPhone X.
Also it really depends which Gcam you use and which settings you prefer.
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Indeed, with the Urnyx 7.3 Gcam and the bufferfix flashed in TWRP, the results are much better than Stock Xiaomi Camera.
Google really makes wonders at treating the picture quality, whereas Xiaomi sucks at it, no details in the pics, strange colors and white balance. The hardware is good but poorly used.
The results would even be better with EIS, but for a 300€ phone, the results are already pretty good with Gcam

Photo quality

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The camera is the weakpoint of this phone. For the price you pay for it, I would have expected a much more decent camera.
Attached photo was done in a bright room but you can clearly see that the noise is present and the details of the wooden floor disappear.
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In order to be able to compare the quality of the above photo, I added another one that was took using an iphone 11. Same room, same light.
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I know it's not fair to compare it to a phone that costs the same as almost two s10 lite phones but I'm guessing that the SE 2020 which is on the same level will beat it.
The screen is nice though ...
Honestly fine.
I dont know why people gave this a low rating. I feel like people are expecting to much from Phone camera's.
For an average human being that takes a pics for memories or casual photo albums its more than fine. Enough options to choose from.
I do miss the lack of tap to focus, unless i missed it somewhere in the settings.
Hi people,
The cams are ok in good light situations i think for the price of the phone!
Only in low light situations it will have not so good performance. The aperture is only 2.0 so for that aperture is not so strange. Try to get as much as light as possible and your photo's will be ok!
I have a question, is this camera able to take RAW photos? And can you use a third party app to change the shutter speed?
Al3xxxinho said:
The camera is the weakpoint of this phone. For the price you pay for it, I would have expected a much more decent camera.
Attached photo was done in a bright room but you can clearly see that the noise is present and the details of the wooden floor disappear.
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In order to be able to compare the quality of the above photo, I added another one that was took using an iphone 11. Same room, same light.
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I know it's not fair to compare it to a phone that costs the same as almost two s10 lite phones but I'm guessing that the SE 2020 which is on the same level will beat it.
The screen is nice though ...
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It's a reaaaally huge difference dude! I am disappointed, I was thinking to get the lite for me, maybe not after see that pics.
One area that the camera impressed with was digital zoom (8x). Daylight pictures from 20 feet away were good. Guess that's one advantage of a high megapixel count.
SkullDeath said:
One area that the camera impressed with was digital zoom (8x). Daylight pictures from 20 feet away were good. Guess that's one advantage of a high megapixel count.
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Also macro is really impressive, i use it al lot and its not disappointing either. As long you have enough light the cams are fine!
got it for 450euro, 128gb, white
for that, i give 4stars. im fine with the camera. macro is surprisingly good. gcam works...whatelse i want?
I pass loll
Seen gcam pictures on youtube, difference night and day on the details and brightness.
https://youtu.be/xXlFN8jl2s4
Picture from youtube
Edit:
Now that i have the phone i think its very disappointing, can't make sharp pictures. Whatever camera app i use, zoomed in to the picture its not sharp, compared with ipad pro 2017. Everything is soft. People complain about it allot with s10 series. I didnt expect miracles from this phone but it is just ridiculous if every photo is to soft.

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