OP8Pro vs S20+ Snapdragon model - OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers

So, I'm seriously considering the OP8pro over my current s20+. While the Samsung is nice, I find myself restarting the phone at least twice a week due it to crashing on apps like maps, waze, android auto, texting. This alone is irritating to say the least. Especially when on a road trip and your using AA and everything goes wonky. I've seen several videos, read the forums, etc etc...seems the OP has some issues but maybe some of it has been fixed? Anyone have experience with both devices and able to give me some feedback? I know I'm going to miss the AOD but OP says its coming. Some threads say the phone gets hot, bad battery drain and lackluster camera especially at night? But I love the oxygen software too. One UI is nice, but like I said, restarting the phone is a pain the the fingerprint sensor is garbage.
Any input would be helpful, thanks.

MHB1638 said:
So, I'm seriously considering the OP8pro over my current s20+. While the Samsung is nice, I find myself restarting the phone at least twice a week due it to crashing on apps like maps, waze, android auto, texting. This alone is irritating to say the least. Especially when on a road trip and your using AA and everything goes wonky. I've seen several videos, read the forums, etc etc...seems the OP has some issues but maybe some of it has been fixed? Anyone have experience with both devices and able to give me some feedback? I know I'm going to miss the AOD but OP says its coming. Some threads say the phone gets hot, bad battery drain and lackluster camera especially at night? But I love the oxygen software too. One UI is nice, but like I said, restarting the phone is a pain the the fingerprint sensor is garbage.
Any input would be helpful, thanks.
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a week ago I switched fm S20+ to OP8pro
s20+ was exynos though
Anyhow, I have no overheating problems and battery life is great.. currently I'm on 6h 40 min SOT with 21% juice left (4g + wifi, FHD+/120Hz ), so in theory I should reach 8hrs easily
S20+ would give me around 6hrs to 6.5hrs before dying and that was on wifi during covid lockdown. Presume yr snapdragon s20+ has better batt life
OP camera so far has been great, but truth being told I did not test the camera at night. Indoors and under artificial light the phones are comparable. S20+ camera was occasionally inconsistent, sometimes photos came out really great then again sometimes not really worth of a flagship
OP8Pro screen.... what to say, it is amazing under normal or bright light conditions
but.... as many others, also I have the black band in the status bar.. it is noticable only with certain darker backgrounds (grey...) and at minimum screen brightness..so I do not notice it during normal use, but it bothers me knowing it is there

Don't think many people here changed from S20+ to OP 8 PRO but i might help a bit since coming from a long journey with several Samsung's family in the past. ( S9+ my last one)
Never had any crashes with maps, waze or texting (never used android auto). You tried cleared cache on those apps ?
Not saying Samsung is good (or bad) .
On the OP8 Pro, don't have any drain and heating i consider normal when your pushing processor with games or GPS. ( related to S9+ )
There are complains all over the internet with any devices. Most people only post bad things but this alone doesn't make the phone bad (remember the huge number of people like myself with no problems at all don't come here saying good things )

Thank you guys for your inputs. It helps. Ordering me the Pro right now.

Had both S20+ and S20 ultra although both exynos I went straight back to 8 pro , Samsung's this time round just way off the mark total rubbish in my opinion [emoji28]
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MHB1638 said:
Thank you guys for your inputs. It helps. Ordering me the Pro right now.
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Wise choice! Your going to enjoy the ride...

Ordered the ultra, didn't come.
Saw the 8pro on three, got it, world's apart, it's just a better phone.
Rapid and great stamina. Plus it looks great. I can't fault it.

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Over a week and still in love...

Wow, using it over a week now and loving this phone even more....
Long stretch from my Galaxy S5, why didn't this phone come before I bought my S5 LOL
No battery issues here, getting more out of this phone then my S5 and better after the last OTA update. For anyone who's having battery issues, there are several features to disable to get the most out of your battery, do a search on google, there's a ton of people who's increased battery life by taking these steps.
As for the bloatware, I usually root my phone but I don't see the reason too with this one even with all the bloatware, most you can disable. The PC Link is a godsend, wow, every phone should have this feature. Speed wise, I've got mine on Balance mode and it's lightning speed, you can go all out and draw a bit more speed by using the Performance mode but you'll sacrifice some battery life, I didn't notice a whole lot of battery drain in that mode, may go back just to get that extra speed.
The only real gripe I have with this phone is the ability to sync effectively with Outlook, I keep my contacts and schedule on Outlook and with the S5 Samsung Kies was a nice free option to do so. Wish ASUS had a similar app to sync Outlook. The best way I found so far to do this is SyncDroid, worth the $4 to get my contacts synced alone. Calendar I just use Google Calendar Sync seems to do the job. But still prefer to stick with one PC app that does it altogether. If anyone out there found a better (Free) option then SyncDroid, please let me know. I won't use Outlook.com, I find it a pain and somewhat glitchy. Outlook is a pretty widely used app and I think this should be mandatory for all Android phones, this to me would make Android the ultimate mobile device. I paranoid about syncing my entire contact list and calendar via online/cloud etc. I prefer to do it locally with my pc.
This truly is an amazing product for the price, screen is not as bright as my S5 SuperAmoled but I'll take the performance, size, memory over screen hands down, big deal, it's a bit hard to see under sunlight but honestly, I don't use it under direct sunlight that much to ditch the phone. Asus has made excellent effort to keep OTA's coming, which is more then what I can say for Samsung phones. I don't think this phone is going away anytime soon, the only store that sells this phone in our city can't keep this thing in stock, they are constantly sold out, that's a good thing, if it sells that well, Asus will continue to support this phone. The hardware in the phone has great potential for future improvements, Android OS updates will just keep making it better.
Let's just hope the built in battery (which is my other gripe) will last. I hate built in batteries, gives me Iphone jitters I hope the battery is easily replaceable. But Samsung's new flagship has also gone this route. I saw the Zenfone 2 takedown and it seems relative straight forward so battery replacement is doable, would be nice to see companies start making 4000mAh or 5000mAh batteries for this phone
For all who are having intermittent issues and giving up, just be a little patient, this is a brand new phone, there will always be issues, happens to flagship phones, Asus is doing very well getting OTA's to us to fix these problems and I'm confident there will be more to come, growing pains. And please, don't knock this phone because it's not up to par with your Iphone 6 or S6 or phones that are twice/three times the price, it's like giving a Honda Civic a bad review because it doesn't compare to your Audi or Mercedes, how much did your Mercedes cost compared to your Civic, come on, let's be realistic.
Good luck with your new ZF2!
The problem is large amount of zen2 having defective battery. It causes high battery drain or randomly shutdown issue. I also have my battery replaced from service center. Otherwise, this fone perform very well with its price
Sorry I didn't read whole post...I just want to know how much SOT are you getting?
tuilalnvinh said:
The problem is large amount of zen2 having defective battery. It causes high battery drain or randomly shutdown issue. I also have my battery replaced from service center. Otherwise, this fone perform very well with its price
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Sorry to hear you're having that luck, with any phone there are defective units, I've only read a handful who's had battery issues, which version do you have? ie. North America, China etc.
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Sorry I didn't read whole post...I just want to know how much SOT are you getting?
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I haven't really measured using the battery usage. I go by normal use through out the day comparing it with my S5, I'll go through a day running my typical apps, texting, surfing and emailing and the odd calls. I'll end up with about 60-70% battery life by about 9 pm from about 8 am, that's when I sit down and plug it in to charge, I consider pretty good considering I was getting about 30-40% with my Galaxy S5 using it the same way. Not sure if that helps.
Minim3 said:
Sorry to hear you're having that luck, with any phone there are defective units, I've only read a handful who's had battery issues, which version do you have? ie. North America, China etc.
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It's a taiwan version, i had issue with it after 2 weeks of using. I also see people report error from other versions too in zentalk
I've used mine for a bit over a day and I'm impressed. Performance is great, build quality seems great too. I've read some reviews that state the phone feels cheap, but to me it feels and looks better than Samsung S4 or S5.
I have no problem reaching the power button on top, it feels easier than pressing the power button on the side of my old 4.7" Blu Life Play phone, as I don't have to change the grip to reach the power button.
Battery life is a concern though. Yesterday I spent the day applying updates, rooting, instalar all my apps and tweaking all config options. The charge did not last me the day. Hopefully today it'll fare better today after all customization and setup is done.
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Minim3 said:
I haven't really measured using the battery usage. I go by normal use through out the day comparing it with my S5, I'll go through a day running my typical apps, texting, surfing and emailing and the odd calls. I'll end up with about 60-70% battery life by about 9 pm from about 8 am, that's when I sit down and plug it in to charge, I consider pretty good considering I was getting about 30-40% with my Galaxy S5 using it the same way. Not sure if that helps.
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i have no problem with battery too, with a normal use, some calls, web browsing, whatsapp and facebook i still have more than 50% at home at night, a great improvement since my samsung s3
i also tested the display on some hours, and it should last 5/6 hours of continuos web browsing
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i have no problem with battery too, with a normal use, some calls, web browsing, whatsapp and facebook i still have more than 50% at home at night, a great improvement since my samsung s3
i also tested the display on some hours, and it should last 5/6 hours of continuos web browsing
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I've been reading a lot of reviews for the ZF2 seems like the CN versions have more problems, I wonder if they got some duds. And also, I've noticed that the ZE551 CN versions have different configurations, maybe that's the problem.
Sorry to bring up an older post, but I see a lot of people loving this phone, and some haters (There's always haters)....I have an iphone 6 now after being on Android for a long time, and I'm about fed up with iOS...All of the things people say about iOS are true...locked down...Boring...Ect... That's a different topic for a different day..
My question is, how is the screen? Lots of people have complained about brightness, or lack there of. Also, camera, is it at least average? I'm looking to go about 300 on a phone and there's a few choices out there, but none seem as powerful as the Zenfone 2 with 4gb of ram, 64gb storage. It seems a little more future proof than the OPO, so I'm thinking of getting it....
Will I be disappointed coming from the Nexus line, then iPhone 6?
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Sorry to bring up an older post, but I see a lot of people loving this phone, and some haters (There's always haters)....I have an iphone 6 now after being on Android for a long time, and I'm about fed up with iOS...All of the things people say about iOS are true...locked down...Boring...Ect... That's a different topic for a different day..
My question is, how is the screen? Lots of people have complained about brightness, or lack there of. Also, camera, is it at least average? I'm looking to go about 300 on a phone and there's a few choices out there, but none seem as powerful as the Zenfone 2 with 4gb of ram, 64gb storage. It seems a little more future proof than the OPO, so I'm thinking of getting it....
Will I be disappointed coming from the Nexus line, then iPhone 6?
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If you have little patience to wait little more for 5.1 to come up (which most people dont have and hence judging things wrongly) then its worth having for sure..
I came from a G2 and iphone 6. I still have an iPad. I couldn't be happier to be honest
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I came from an HTC m7 and I love my new ZenFone 2. I have the 4gb/64gb model and it is superb. I also was worried about screen brightness, but I haven't found it bad at all.
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smokinjoe2122 said:
Sorry to bring up an older post, but I see a lot of people loving this phone, and some haters (There's always haters)....I have an iphone 6 now after being on Android for a long time, and I'm about fed up with iOS...All of the things people say about iOS are true...locked down...Boring...Ect... That's a different topic for a different day..
My question is, how is the screen? Lots of people have complained about brightness, or lack there of. Also, camera, is it at least average? I'm looking to go about 300 on a phone and there's a few choices out there, but none seem as powerful as the Zenfone 2 with 4gb of ram, 64gb storage. It seems a little more future proof than the OPO, so I'm thinking of getting it....
Will I be disappointed coming from the Nexus line, then iPhone 6?
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I've had mine now about 3 weeks and I think that the phone is great for the price. The camera is OK, certainly not iPhone 6 good, but reasonable, especially when you use alternate camera apps. The screen is fine, but once again, I'm indoors most of the day, so no issue. Max brightness outside is not so great the one or two times I've used it.
I think that the phone is a work in progress and that a lot of the deficiencies that you see people griping about will be addressed with future Android updates. On the plus side, Asus had been sending out updates frequently so they seem committed to making this phone better.
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Thanks for the input guys...Really having a hard time between this and the OPO....I still have until the end of the month to make my choice, but I'm leaning towards this phone...Really can't go wrong for $300 per the specs, and I like that Asus is continually updating this phone....
I had the same choice to .and and went for the ZenFone 2. I have had it for 4 weeks now and have had no regrets. This phone performs flawlessly in my opinion.
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Had mine for 4weeks now....am so LOVING it...
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i have no problem with battery, It's a taiwan version.
over 2 months and still in love.
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Thanks for the input guys...Really having a hard time between this and the OPO....I still have until the end of the month to make my choice, but I'm leaning towards this phone...Really can't go wrong for $300 per the specs, and I like that Asus is continually updating this phone....
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I came from a Nexus 5 and was considering the same two phones as you. Decided to go with the zenfone 2 based on Asus being more reputable and customer friendly from what i read. So far its been great. I did root (which is super easy via one click) and used titanium to freeze all the unwanted apps. Haven't experienced any lag. Camera wont be as good as the Iphone, but definitely better than my nexus 5. I dont game on it because I dont see the point of gaming on a phone, but i did run hearthstone flawlessly. To me, the build quality is nice. comparable to Galaxy s4/5, so im not sure why so many reviews bring it up as a major con. at $300 this phone is awesome. And once Asus pushed out 5.1 it should shine even more, as 5.1 bumps android up to 64bit, and this has a 64bit chipset.
This phone is way better than I expected for $299. I'm coming from an LG G2, and I'm not missing anything. You can spend 3x this much on a phone and you won't end up with much more.
Honestly my biggest nit-pick is the power button placement, but double-tap-to-wake/sleep is far more convenient than any possible hardware switch. Battery life is a touch lower than I'm used to, but QC 2 is really great.
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Anyone regret getting this phone? :/

I have the U11 since inception along with the S8 (exynos variant) and Oneplus 5. I really regret buying it since I cant even sell it now. I'm left with the choice of selling my other two phone and use this :/
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I have the U11 since inception along with the S8 (exynos variant) and Oneplus 5. I really regret buying it since I cant even sell it now. I'm left with the choice of selling my other two phone and use this :/
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And would you like to explain why you don't want to use u11 and keep other devices instead?
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What don't you like about the phone? I just got mine and I'm enjoying it so far. Only thing is aftermarket support isn't that great.
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And would you like to explain why you don't want to use u11 and keep other devices instead?
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The battery life isnt as good, samsung did some vodoo to make their battery last while viewing youtube, the Oneplus sometime beat the S8 if not on par with it. The lack of 3.5mm is such a hassle, I have my personal in-ear monitor, I use it to listen to music, and everytime I go somewhere I have to carried a pigtail. The phone is so much wider to hold with one hand, granted the oneplus 5 isnt far off, but it is bigger, with a case, I feel like its almost the same as my LG V20. One handed usage is such a pain. Not a big deal to me but when it comes to photography, its hit or miss, sometime it over expose sometime it doesnt. Oneplus have this issue too but the S8 really is a happy medium.
The ****ty thing abuot S8 is the damn bixby functionality. Touchwiz has come a long way, and Its awesome now, but bixby need to die. Oneplus is a good phone with top spec, but their screen cannot touch the S8 amoled, viewing it side by side the S8 just trump the oneplus screen. the U11 have good screen, better than the oneplus 5, in this regard.. Seems like every year HTC push out a phone that doesnt WOW or excite you, just leaving you in a state of euphoric until many of it quirks find it way back to the phone....SHame really, fallen from grace down to here.
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The battery life isnt as good, samsung did some vodoo to make their battery last while viewing youtube, the Oneplus sometime beat the S8 if not on par with it. The lack of 3.5mm is such a hassle, I have my personal in-ear monitor, I use it to listen to music, and everytime I go somewhere I have to carried a pigtail. The phone is so much wider to hold with one hand, granted the oneplus 5 isnt far off, but it is bigger, with a case, I feel like its almost the same as my LG V20. One handed usage is such a pain. Not a big deal to me but when it comes to photography, its hit or miss, sometime it over expose sometime it doesnt. Oneplus have this issue too but the S8 really is a happy medium.
The ****ty thing abuot S8 is the damn bixby functionality. Touchwiz has come a long way, and Its awesome now, but bixby need to die. Oneplus is a good phone with top spec, but their screen cannot touch the S8 amoled, viewing it side by side the S8 just trump the oneplus screen. the U11 have good screen, better than the oneplus 5, in this regard.. Seems like every year HTC push out a phone that doesnt WOW or excite you, just leaving you in a state of euphoric until many of it quirks find it way back to the phone....SHame really, fallen from grace down to here.
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Before I got mine I did a ton of research. Went to a MeetU event, checked it out in Sprint stores and saw tons of reviews. I knew the stuff I had to live with like the dongle for headphones. Sorry you don't like the phone. I'm assuming you can't return it anymore?
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You are more than welcome to your opinion but why on Earth can you "not sell your phone"?
I like the phone at the moment.I think it will be a problem to resell it because not so many people are using HTC.Nobody from my friends are using HTC.iPhone and Samsung addicted ?
The only thing I regret about the U11 is its size, but I didn't have any way to test it out before purchasing. It's difficult for me to use with one hand. I still have a couple of weeks to return it for a refund, and really the only newer phone that intrigues me is the Essential. But that device feels like a gamble in a few ways.
I don't see why you would have any problems selling the U11. You may not receive as much as you paid for it, but somebody will buy it. Someone bought my 10 a few weeks ago (with several accessors) for $475 very quickly.
No, I made an informed decision and went with the best option for me.
I like that the phone comes with a USB DAC, I like the sapphire blue glass, I use the squeeze feature multiple times in a day, the only thing I've got slight reservations are the change to the warranty stance over unlocking the bootloader and their updates not being fast enough.
E.g. the new update indicates the display sensitivity issue is fixed and yet the 001 WWE users will probably be waiting another month.
But then again, I'd rather have this device over any of the others currently in the market.
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The battery life isnt as good, samsung did some vodoo to make their battery last while viewing youtube, the Oneplus sometime beat the S8 if not on par with it. The lack of 3.5mm is such a hassle, I have my personal in-ear monitor, I use it to listen to music, and everytime I go somewhere I have to carried a pigtail. The phone is so much wider to hold with one hand, granted the oneplus 5 isnt far off, but it is bigger, with a case, I feel like its almost the same as my LG V20. One handed usage is such a pain. Not a big deal to me but when it comes to photography, its hit or miss, sometime it over expose sometime it doesnt. Oneplus have this issue too but the S8 really is a happy medium.
The ****ty thing abuot S8 is the damn bixby functionality. Touchwiz has come a long way, and Its awesome now, but bixby need to die. Oneplus is a good phone with top spec, but their screen cannot touch the S8 amoled, viewing it side by side the S8 just trump the oneplus screen. the U11 have good screen, better than the oneplus 5, in this regard.. Seems like every year HTC push out a phone that doesnt WOW or excite you, just leaving you in a state of euphoric until many of it quirks find it way back to the phone....SHame really, fallen from grace down to here.
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Battery life not good?
10 hours screen on time on stock is easily achieved on the u11?
Wow.... Your expectations must be very high
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Battery life not good?
10 hours screen on time on stock is easily achieved on the u11?
Wow.... Your expectations must be very high
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10 hours...did you shut off everything, turn screen brightness to 0? I can barely get it past 4 hours.
I use my phone typically with everything on, and auto brightness on. I never have a problem with the oneplus 5 or S8 last beyond 5 hours.
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No, I made an informed decision and went with the best option for me.
I like that the phone comes with a USB DAC, I like the sapphire blue glass, I use the squeeze feature multiple times in a day, the only thing I've got slight reservations are the change to the warranty stance over unlocking the bootloader and their updates not being fast enough.
E.g. the new update indicates the display sensitivity issue is fixed and yet the 001 WWE users will probably be waiting another month.
But then again, I'd rather have this device over any of the others currently in the market.
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I dont have sensitivity issue. All phones works well as far as audio goes, I power my HD800s with a proper DAC/AMP not with a phone DAC/AMP. I cant see any in-ear monitor that cant be power (and power well) with any of these phones, its 2017.
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10 hours...did you shut off everything, turn screen brightness to 0? I can barely get it past 4 hours.
I use my phone typically with everything on, and auto brightness on. I never have a problem with the oneplus 5 or S8 last beyond 5 hours.
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Check the megathread, there's screenshots in there. Not from myself but other users
borgsta said:
You are more than welcome to your opinion but why on Earth can you "not sell your phone"?
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seems like no one wants it. It depreciate alot! I had this problem with the HTC 10 too, but being a tech/phone (dummy) I bought another HTC :/
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Check the megathread, there's screenshots in there. Not from myself but other users
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thats the thing, phone usage is based on user to user. I am using the phone the same as my 2 other phones and it cant hang. You can go to any phone thread and there are people making ridiculous claim about their SOT, even in the S8. ask how they do it and they throw out a bunch of things they did such as turning down brightness to 0, some even put phone on airplane mode -_- c'mon man.
Im not which region your in OP, but in UK, you can trade your U11 to CEX for £415 against something else in store or £345 cash in hand.. and I think GAME do something similar.. Or eBay about £350-450 , which isnt the best, but if you dislike it that much.. then better some kind of cash than nothing...
The only thing I dislike about the U11 is that f**king News Republic is forced upon us if we want to use BlinkFeed, and your battery problem is caused by "News Republic" which powers BlinkFeed.. I actually really loved BF on the M8 and M9, it was useful, but Ive noticed that on the U11, NR is constantly waking the CPU when phone is sleeping and when your not even using BF at all, bit like UpDay used to be on the S7E. Im actually force to disable both BF and NR... and install G .Newsstand instead. Also, even when you "unfollow" a topic. like Football, or Chinese Politics.. it actually doesnt work.. I STILL those Newsfeeds
Now to me, BF was a great part of Sense UI.. and disabling it, is a bit like not using the Stereo Speakers or the camera.. its a major part of HTC phones.. So Im not happy either.. When HTC went stock Google to reduce the Bloat on their phones, why didnt they just bake Google News and Weather or Newsstand as BlinkFeed..
Other than NR... I love the U11 and my G6, but these 2 are my last Android phones.. my next phone is an Iphone 7 plus..
Battery life is very good. But excellent with a custom kernel. Get about 7 hours of on screen time.
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thats the thing, phone usage is based on user to user. I am using the phone the same as my 2 other phones and it cant hang. You can go to any phone thread and there are people making ridiculous claim about their SOT, even in the S8. ask how they do it and they throw out a bunch of things they did such as turning down brightness to 0, some even put phone on airplane mode -_- c'mon man.
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It's not though... It's brightness set at 50 at auto, normal usage and even social media apps..
I don't use my phone that much that I can claim 10 hours screen off time, but my phone easily reached 2 full days of my normal usage and 6 hours screen on time during that time...
Loving mine thus far. Coming from the S7, my battery life and performance has been pretty dang good. Even before S7 root, it is noticeably better. When considering the S7 root situation of having to use an engineering boot/kernel, and the mess it made with the battery life/performance...it's night and day.
The lack of headphone jack is somewhat disappointing. In reality I don't find myself needing headphones as often any more now that I'm done with college and all that jazz. The only other complaint I have is the lack of accessories for it.
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The battery life isnt as good, samsung did some vodoo to make their battery last while viewing youtube, the Oneplus sometime beat the S8 if not on par with it. The lack of 3.5mm is such a hassle, I have my personal in-ear monitor, I use it to listen to music, and everytime I go somewhere I have to carried a pigtail. The phone is so much wider to hold with one hand, granted the oneplus 5 isnt far off, but it is bigger, with a case, I feel like its almost the same as my LG V20. One handed usage is such a pain. Not a big deal to me but when it comes to photography, its hit or miss, sometime it over expose sometime it doesnt. Oneplus have this issue too but the S8 really is a happy medium.
The ****ty thing abuot S8 is the damn bixby functionality. Touchwiz has come a long way, and Its awesome now, but bixby need to die. Oneplus is a good phone with top spec, but their screen cannot touch the S8 amoled, viewing it side by side the S8 just trump the oneplus screen. the U11 have good screen, better than the oneplus 5, in this regard.. Seems like every year HTC push out a phone that doesnt WOW or excite you, just leaving you in a state of euphoric until many of it quirks find it way back to the phone....SHame really, fallen from grace down to here.
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* Battery - my SOT is 6hrs. More than any other phone I had used except for the Mi Mix(9-10hrs). Lots of FB, Viber. Regular text messages and calls. some games.
* 3.5mm - you can't complain about this. You had to know from the start that HTC U11 didn't have one.
* Camera - excellent for me.
* This phone is very fast and smooth I have no complaints whatsoever.

[ISSUES] Should I buy a Oneplus 6T?

Hi guys I must replace my Samsung S8 (Exynos).
In Italy the S9+ and the 6T have the same street price, so i’m trying to see both pro and cons
S9+
Pro
Wireless Charge
3.5mm jack
Better camera
Better HW support ( physical store )
Maybe better Value
Awesome Display
Cons
1yrs old phone
Big phone
Not sure about optimisation and bug fixing from Samsung
6T
Pro
New phone with Pie
Hope for a better software support and bug fixing
Cons
No 3.5mm jack
No wireless charge
I don’t know about hw assistance
Not so bright display
Less security (Knox)
I’m not a modder fan anymore and I always had Samsung devices, but i hate that for example with the s8 i must switch to 3G before put it in airplane mode unless I have big battery drain and this bug has never been solved by Samsung from Oreo. I don’t want to go with a stupid bugged device again.
So what issues related to OP6T are you experiencing? At the same price you will go for S9+ or OP6T? ( or save 100 bucks for a Mi8 or a S9?)
Thanks
Not sure what I can say about issues because I haven't found anything. But, I tell you my wife has an S9 and compared to this phone it has terrible battery life. My 6T lasts me a healthy and solid 2 days (right now starting day 3 with 40% left) but hers lasts like... 10 hours? Its on a charger alot.
EspElement said:
Not sure what I can say about issues because I haven't found anything. But, I tell you my wife has an S9 and compared to this phone it has terrible battery life. My 6T lasts me a healthy and solid 2 days (right now starting day 3 with 40% left) but hers lasts like... 10 hours? Its on a charger alot.
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Yes probably the S9 has an horrible optimisation, so that is why i’m On the 6T for the battery life and maybe on a S9+ instead of the S9.
For the screen is the 6T brightness so bad? Obviously compared to the S9? In the summer my S8 becomes so bright and readable never had issues.
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Hi guys I must replace my Samsung S8 (Exynos).
In Italy the S9+ and the 6T have the same street price, so i’m trying to see both pro and cons
S9+
Pro
Wireless Charge
3.5mm jack
Better camera
Better HW support ( physical store )
Maybe better Value
Awesome Display
Cons
1yrs old phone
Big phone
Not sure about optimisation and bug fixing from Samsung
6T
Pro
New phone with Pie
Hope for a better software support and bug fixing
Cons
No 3.5mm jack
No wireless charge
I don’t know about hw assistance
Not so bright display
Less security (Knox)
I’m not a modder fan anymore and I always had Samsung devices, but i hate that for example with the s8 i must switch to 3G before put it in airplane mode unless I have big battery drain and this bug has never been solved by Samsung from Oreo. I don’t want to go with a stupid bugged device again.
So what issues related to OP6T are you experiencing? At the same price you will go for S9+ or OP6T? ( or save 100 bucks for a Mi8 or a S9?)
Thanks
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Ciao! I'm on the same situation as you, can't decide between OP6T and S9+. I think I'll go with OP6T for the better software/software support and the better battery. As far as I know, support under warranty has hugely improved since the time of the OnePus One but if you want to be 100% safe you can buy it from MediaWorld here in Italy! I'll probably miss the headphone jack present on the S9+ but still I wouldn't buy a one year old phone just for that, also considering the low term software support Samsung gives.
I just got this phone on Friday and an LOVING it! It hold a charge seemingly forever, and the display is gorgeous. It's very smooth and snappy.
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Ciao! I'm on the same situation as you, can't decide between OP6T and S9+. I think I'll go with OP6T for the better software/software support and the better battery. As far as I know, support under warranty has hugely improved since the time of the OnePus One but if you want to be 100% safe you can buy it from MediaWorld here in Italy! I'll probably miss the headphone jack present on the S9+ but still I wouldn't buy a one year old phone just for that, also considering the low term software support Samsung gives.
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Yes I have been in a MW store but the phone was not available, I would like to try it especially because I don’t like big phones. In that scenario the Mi8 made me love it.
sabrdawg said:
I just got this phone on Friday and an LOVING it! It hold a charge seemingly forever, and the display is gorgeous. It's very smooth and snappy.
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Thanks, are you able to compare the brightness under the sun with other phones?
Have you encountered any issue that is this forum threads like the deep sleep that kills the notification?
Coming from a Galaxy S9+
I have a Galaxy S9+ for work and a OP6t for personal use. I prefer the OP6t. No, the display is not quite as bright. However the colors and size are amazing and just as good as the Galaxy. The battery life is significantly better. I have to keep the Galaxy S9+ near a charger so it is topped off before I head out if the house. The OP last so long and charged so fast that I don't worry about it. Also the near stock os flies compared to Samsung's... Its not even close. I've been using wireless headphones for a while so that wasnt a big deal to me. I think it's only a matter of time before all manufacturers get rid of the headphone jack so I figured I'd take the plunge. The only things I miss at all on the OP are wireless charging and Samsung pay, but the OP experience is so much better that is worth it.
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I have a Galaxy S9+ for work and a OP6t for personal use. I prefer the OP6t. No, the display is not quite as bright. However the colors and size are amazing and just as good as the Galaxy. The battery life is significantly better. I have to keep the Galaxy S9+ near a charger so it is topped off before I head out if the house. The OP last so long and charged so fast that I don't worry about it. Also the near stock os flies compared to Samsung's... Its not even close. I've been using wireless headphones for a while so that wasnt a big deal to me. I think it's only a matter of time before all manufacturers get rid of the headphone jack so I figured I'd take the plunge. The only things I miss at all on the OP are wireless charging and Samsung pay, but the OP experience is so much better that is worth it.
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As you have both phones, would you say the Oneplus 6t is far behind the S9 regarding camera and picture quality?
sostendorf said:
I have a Galaxy S9+ for work and a OP6t for personal use. I prefer the OP6t. No, the display is not quite as bright. However the colors and size are amazing and just as good as the Galaxy. The battery life is significantly better. I have to keep the Galaxy S9+ near a charger so it is topped off before I head out if the house. The OP last so long and charged so fast that I don't worry about it. Also the near stock os flies compared to Samsung's... Its not even close. I've been using wireless headphones for a while so that wasnt a big deal to me. I think it's only a matter of time before all manufacturers get rid of the headphone jack so I figured I'd take the plunge. The only things I miss at all on the OP are wireless charging and Samsung pay, but the OP experience is so much better that is worth it.
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As you have both could you test the screen quality about the dark scenes as Erica Griffin did https://youtu.be/YVk8bc-TV3Y (min 27.40)
Thanks
groenland83 said:
As you have both phones, would you say the Oneplus 6t is far behind the S9 regarding camera and picture quality?
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Let me qualify this with that fact that I am not big picture taker so I likely haven't experienced a significant number of scenarios. With that said, is it behind, yes...is it FAR behind, no. It still takes really good pictures with the rear camera, at least for point and shoot. I haven't used the front facing camera, so I can't say for sure. Everything I've read (and doubtless you have too) says the front facing camera is crap. If it matters, it also doesn't have all of the AI/AR stuff that the Samsung camera does. I played with that on the Galaxy for about an hour and never used it again, but it may be important for some people.
I just sold my S9+ and got the 6T and I can't imagine going back. Camera isn't quite as good, but it's fine for my uses. Screen isn't quite as good, but with 20/20 vision I can't tell much of a difference. Definitely doesn't get as bright, but haven't had any issues with the max brightness. The 6T is tons faster and doesn't seem to big down like the S9+ does and the battery life is miles better. Can't imagine going back
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As you have both could you test the screen quality about the dark scenes as Erica Griffin did https://youtu.be/YVk8bc-TV3Y (min 27.40)
Thanks
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I assume you meant the grayscale test she showed? I couldn't find the graphic she used, but here is a different one. Both of these were at 100% brightness. The S9+ may have done a tiny bit better, but its really close.
Galaxy S9+
OP6t
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I assume you meant the grayscale test she showed? I couldn't find the graphic she used, but here is a different one. Both of these were at 100% brightness. The S9+ may have done a tiny bit better, but its really close.
Galaxy S9+
OP6t
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Thanks man but from a screenshot is useless, it is shown as the same
I’ve seen from the Oneplus 6 review always from Erica that this shadow clipping effect is more affecting the S9 than the OP6.
But S8 was better than S9 on that so I hope that 6T doesn’t perform worse than 6
The image test is available in some display tester apps
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Thanks man but from a screenshot is useless, it is shown as the same
I’ve seen from the Oneplus 6 review always from Erica that this shadow clipping effect is more affecting the S9 than the OP6.
But S8 was better than S9 on that so I hope that 6T doesn’t perform worse than 6
The image test is available in some display tester apps
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Yep, I wasn't exactly sure how to reproduce that test.
6t. All-around better experience
Hi!
I have Huawei P20 Pro, and it is a good phone but I want to try out another phone. And I think about to change my P20 pro to OP 6 or 6t but just untill near October because I want to buy a Pixel 4, 4XL, OP 7t or galaxy note 10.
Firstly the camera is important feature for me, and I know p20 pro has a better camera than the 6 or 6t but those phones has ported gcam so how good is that gcam?
And battery, speakers and the software is important to me as well, OP always has a good battery life so it's ok, speakers is weaker than the speakers on the P20 pro. But the software is a key part of OP Oxygen OS is great and I like it, and it's way better than the Emui which is a **** for me I hate basicly everything in Emui
What do you think, is it worth to change my phone for this couple of months or I should wait for the Pixel 4 or OP 7t?
If the camera or speakers are most important to you, then wait. The op6t is ok on both counts but coming from the pixel camera and speakers, you'll be disappointed. The Google camera app doesn't significantly improve the camera imo.
Actually the camera is important but the software is the second most important thing the speakers just good to have a good one.
And what about the screen?
It's amoled on the OP, and the P20 pro. And both of them has fhd+ resolution.
But which phone has better color reproducion or the viewing angle?
I personally love the screen on the op6t. The resolution/pixel density isn't as high but I'm of the opinion that it doesn't matter over a certain point. Something about the color saturation and white balance is pleasing imo.
If you got the money buy Note 9 or wait for... 10.

S8 in late 2018?

Looking to buy my wife a new phone cause her iPhone 6S battery is dieing out. I plan to get her the S8 exynos and flash a pixel room. Thought about getting her an S9 buy the exynos version has problems with poor battery. Plus the S8 is on sale for $375.
Her use is mainly messaging, social media apps and youtube. How's the speed/fluidity of the phone?
I ask cause I have a pixel 2xl and it's working flawlessly. Smoother than the OnePlus 6 I had before it. The SD835 isn't far behind the SD845 like one would think. I also heard good things about the exynos 8895.
I really don't want to get her a phone with issues cause I'll end up having to buy her another one. Would appreciate detailed opinions/reviews. Thanks.
Will008 said:
Looking to buy my wife a new phone cause her iPhone 6S battery is dieing out. I plan to get her the S8 exynos and flash a pixel room. Thought about getting her an S9 buy the exynos version has problems with poor battery. Plus the S8 is on sale for $375.
Her use is mainly messaging, social media apps and youtube. How's the speed/fluidity of the phone?
I ask cause I have a pixel 2xl and it's working flawlessly. Smoother than the OnePlus 6 I had before it. The SD835 isn't far behind the SD845 like one would think. I also heard good things about the exynos 8895.
I really don't want to get her a phone with issues cause I'll end up having to buy her another one. Would appreciate detailed opinions/reviews. Thanks.
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I got the phone about a month ago and here are my thoughts:
-Not as fast as a Pixel 2 or a Oneplus 6 but still good enough. You wouldn't call this a slow phone. Apps won't launch as quickly as a phone with stock android, but it's not a big deal imo. Reduce the animation time from developer settings and you'll be good to go.
-Camera is fantastic. Sometimes even better than the S9.
-Battery life is good after some tweaking. I get about 6 hours of SOT and a full day of mixed use.
-Samsung Experience UI is so much better than the old TouchWiz. I'd suggest that you try it before switching to a custom rom. Features like Good Lock can help you customize your phone like never before. It's not the gimmicky bloat of the past.
-The curved screen is a bloody pain for phone cases and tempered glasses. But I still like it. Makes the grip of the phone much better for me. I'd suggest getting a full screen glue tempered glass from AliExpress or a Whitestone Dome from Amazon (this may sound like a trivial point but trust me, it's very important).
I think the S8 is a great value buy over the S9. I got it for about $380 myself and I have no regrets. Fantastic features, keeps the headphone jack.
6 hours sot? do you mind sharing your tricks, master?
i usually have 3 and end the day on 30-40% left at 8 pm
anaway, i can fully recommend this phone, still looks and feels like it came out two weeks ago
TexasHoldemJoker said:
6 hours sot? do you mind sharing your tricks, master?
i usually have 3 and end the day on 30-40% left at 8 pm
anaway, i can fully recommend this phone, still looks and feels like it came out two weeks ago
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS8/comments/71imyw/neomancrs_general_battery_and_performance_tuning
I've followed most of these settings.
Make sure you add most of your apps to the "Always Sleeping Apps" list in the battery settings.
Turn off background data for apps you don't need.
Use the "Moderate" setting of battery saving and customize it to your preference.
SOT varies from person to person. On a very heavy day with a full day of 4g use I can get about 4.5-5 hours SOT.
On a light day, I get about 6-6.5 hours
Today was quite a light day. Maybe about an hour of continuous 4g use. Rest has been WiFi and social media.
I only make 3-4h SOT....
So... NO
After year and couple a months that's my opinion.... Awesome
I have this phone for about 10 months now. I had no troubles with it. I haven't seen an app crash since i updated from a really sh phone, alcatel one youch idol mini 3, so from my experience its effin superb phone. Display is amazing, really, amazing. Full screen videos are outstanding, youtube option to zoom till filled is just wow. 2 apps at the same time is my fav option. YT on top and anything else on the bottom. Two accounts for social media apps. Additional storage.. amazing camera with super slo mo 4k video etc.. all in all my experience for s8+ is 9/10
Keep it stock,for a woman its better.
I just got mine second hand about 3 months ago. That is a good deal.
Coming from iphone 6plus(work phone) I did not think I would like it. My other phone at that time was an essential phone. And all my previous phones were pure android. So I did not think I would like the samsung overlay.
It is great the only thing I have done was turn on developer options to get rid if navigation buttons and notification area.
I use it heavily for work email. My app is not battery optimized. Syncing data for changes documents and some tethering data.
Each day I put on the charger at 5:45am and I take it off the charger about 7am and it last me all day until I go to bed about 11pm. I don't pay attention to the battery percentage since I hide the notification at top.
As for speed I don't have a problem.
I would not worry about rooting the phone unless there is a tweak you really need. I have rooted and ROMed every phone but this one. The samsung extras are really good
Muresan01 said:
Keep it stock,for a woman its better.
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Was only thinking to do that to get rid of bloat and make sure it doesn't slow by time as everyone says about Samsung's phones. From the comments I've been getting I see that's not needed anymore. Thanks.
Will008 said:
Was only thinking to do that to get rid of bloat and make sure it doesn't slow by time as everyone says about Samsung's phones. From the comments I've been getting I see that's not needed anymore. Thanks.
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Nah I still got mine other than a couple stock restores due to bricking mine doesn't ever lag. But I am also rooted and tweaked to the max allowable.
I would have to say depending on the price it's still a good option just no root method for US users any more

Moving from Pixel to 8P. What will I miss from the Pix platform ?

Hopefully this is the right thread to ask this question. Please move it, if I messed up!
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My question is for former Pixel owners who jumped ships to OP. I am thinking to move from Pixel 3 to 8P but I am wondering what prominent features will I be missing? I understand that gcam mod is alive and well on OP platform, but what about tight integration with G assistant? Phone call screens, text spam protection? Is there anything else that someone could shed some light? How happy / unhappy you are with the switch?
Pixel is growing old on me. The high price for the specs are ridics; Google is having serious personality issues, hard to see the direction of where they are going with the phone. I think I am ready to move to a new phone.
thanks for helping me to make an informed decision.
I didn't miss anything and gained much more current higher spec's for my usage!
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I didn't miss anything and gained much more current higher spec's for my usage!
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Thats a solid statement; thank you. Do you use screencall feature? Is it working straight up on OP or do you need to mess with modules / magdisk ? How is your gcam mod ( or you don't even use it ? )
Bought Pro8 at launch, I unlocked the bootloader and rooted with Magisk but I don't need twrp. Played with some modules which there are many.... Stock OOS is excellent, on A11 and I'm more than happy with the 1+ camera & use stock phone setup. Really I've never looked back and will get the Pro 9 next year....
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Bought Pro8 at launch, I unlocked the bootloader and rooted with Magisk but I don't need twrp. Played with some modules which there are many.... Stock OOS is excellent, on A11 and I'm more than happy with the 1+ camera & use stock phone setup. Really I've never looked back and will get the Pro 9 next year....
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For some reason I used to get 10-20 spam calls a day, but with the screencall feature / automatic spam call rejection I get 0. My biggest fear is that I may be hurdling toward that situation, if I jump ships. Other than this, I feel I can live with everything else. 8P looks amazing. Thanks for the feedback!
Tell your what you won't miss, that awful battery life
10 hours SOT on most days here.
Really good phone, I can't fault it.
As others have said root is a breeze and the community is pretty active so there's that too.
You might miss the camera for point and shoot but you can take some phenomenal pics on the 8 Pro.
I just moved to OnePlus 8 Pro recently from Pixel3XL. This phone is a treat to use daily and everything works nice and stable. Couple of misses so far:
1. Losing widevine L1 after unlocking bootloader
2. No RCS on Google Fi on OP8Pro as of now (>7 months after release).
3. ROM update with root is a bit (only slightly) more of a pain than on Pixel where I had an automated script based update coded using ADB.
For Camera, I use both the stock and GCAM port. GCAM port gives more detail in shots just like on P3XL. I am happy with the camera performance so far.
Biggest hits so far:
1. What a treat that display with 120Hz refresh! Wow!
2. Just smooth, no hiccups performance! I think 12GB RAM helps here quite a bit. 4GB of P3XL just wasn't enough
3. Battery life!
I moved from Pixel 3 XL to a Samsung Galaxy S10 for a few months, then jumped to the 8 Pro as quickly as I could (that S10 was the worst phone ever!).
I miss the Camera. The camera quality was definitely better. A lot of times i would take pictures, and i'd crop out smaller areas because they were what i was really going for, and even though that meant zooming in on an image, the fine details of the pixel images were so much better than any other phone that it looked like a picture from any other phone, its something thats terribly overlooked by almost everyone!
Battery life is better.
I do miss having a finger print reader on the back, i just like it better...
I miss the AOD, i think its better than what we have now on the OP, but its good enough. I still miss the one on the pixel though.
I think what i miss the most though is the front firing speakers! Anything else is trash, but "trash" seems to be common nowadays....
When it comes to things like phone call screening, i believe there's a way to get that on the OP, but i dont really care much for it. I've started using (and did so soon after getting the 3 XL) the app called "Should I Answer?". I set it up to reject all calls from numbers that arent in my phone. I get 20+ calls every single day, and even when i used the call screening, it just resulted in more work for me as they tried to get me on the phone. My new method allows people to leave a message. If its important, they will, and i'll call them back.
@PMad are your saying that the pixels battery is better than ? The 8 pro?
I agree on the camera though
> I miss the Camera. The camera quality was definitely better.
Compare GCAM on OnePlus 8 Pro with GCAM on P3XL. The photos get slightly more detailed on my OnePlus 8 Pro compared to my P3XL. In all aspects, they are identicle, with OP8Pro slightly better. Not sure if P5 would have given better results. But P5 is very disappointing for me.
Grab gcam for OP8Pro : https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog1486/ version Arnova8G2, 2020-11-15)
I am very satisfied with the camera performance. Its not the best right now but neither is the Pixel.
Is NOW PLAYING functionality or any similar app available for OnePlus 8?
dladz said:
@PMad are your saying that the pixels battery is better than ? The 8 pro?
I agree on the camera though
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I think the battery is better on the OP8Pro, but the optimization is better on the Pixel. On my Pixel's, all of them, i'd go all day and have roughly 25 to 40% battery left. I was getting slightly more then that with my OP8P until i upgraded to Android 11, now i have to charge up around 7 or 8pm because im at < 20%. Not sure what happened, i'll go into the battery options to see what used most of it, and there's only like... 10 things using at most 2% battery, so its a bit misleading, still not sure whats doing it.
PMad said:
I think the battery is better on the OP8Pro, but the optimization is better on the Pixel. On my Pixel's, all of them, i'd go all day and have roughly 25 to 40% battery left. I was getting slightly more then that with my OP8P until i upgraded to Android 11, now i have to charge up around 7 or 8pm because im at < 20%. Not sure what happened, i'll go into the battery options to see what used most of it, and there's only like... 10 things using at most 2% battery, so its a bit misleading, still not sure whats doing it.
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Did you wipe after the 11 upgrade?
Always best to have a fresh start between bases.
I average about 2 days and about 8-10 hours SOT
Obviously comes with a fair bit of tweaking but yea that's my average..
Currently actually running pixel experience on 11 and battery has been lessened, idle is superb but any kind of work I give the phone burns more battery than what OOS did.
Maybe it'll improve with updates and or a different kernel.
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Did you wipe after the 11 upgrade?
Always best to have a fresh start between bases.
I average about 2 days and about 8-10 hours SOT
Obviously comes with a fair bit of tweaking but yea that's my average..
Currently actually running pixel experience on 11 and battery has been lessened, idle is superb but any kind of work I give the phone burns more battery than what OOS did.
Maybe it'll improve with updates and or a different kernel.
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Nope! There's a chance that's contributing to the issue, but i have a few other things i think are causing it. I'm too lazy to dig into it though haha, i dont mind charging it in the evening.
devsk said:
I just moved to OnePlus 8 Pro recently from Pixel3XL. This phone is a treat to use daily and everything works nice and stable. Couple of misses so far:
1. Losing widevine L1 after unlocking bootloader
2. No RCS on Google Fi on OP8Pro as of now (>7 months after release).
3. ROM update with root is a bit (only slightly) more of a pain than on Pixel where I had an automated script based update coded using ADB.
For Camera, I use both the stock and GCAM port. GCAM port gives more detail in shots just like on P3XL. I am happy with the camera performance so far.
Biggest hits so far:
1. What a treat that display with 120Hz refresh! Wow!
2. Just smooth, no hiccups performance! I think 12GB RAM helps here quite a bit. 4GB of P3XL just wasn't enough
3. Battery life!
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Automated script based update?
I came from the Pixel 2 XL only thing i miss is the call screen where you could have your assistant answer the phone. And its really not that big of a deal
OnePlus 8 Pro proud owner.
Let's say that you take 9 Pro in march 2021.
You will have the latest and the best hardware on the market. Maybe we will get Zeiss lens for camera.
Phone is well build and looks good.
Oxygen is awesome OS! Also, except Google OnePlus is the first to get software upgrades.
Battery is decent. But that depends on the user...
Warp charging 30w/6A, there is no need to explain... And it will go to 65w or more.
Now, from 8 Pro we got 30w wireless charging. That is Great! And it will go to 45w or more.

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