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My thoughts after 3 months of use

Originally I wanted to buy Oneplus 3 but I wanted something smaller in size, so I opted for H8. I must say i was delighted with the design and '''in hand'' feel. Also, i was tricked with the whole XDA support thing, which turned out to be a disaster with no help whatsoever from Huawei side. The ''bang for the buck'' term turns out to be a little overhyped.
The biggest feature of this phone was camera which is pretty good, but it's no better than other single sensor units found in large variety of devices. Sometimes even my old Galaxy alpha took better pictures, especially close-ups. Also, focus is a litlle slow to say at least. I didn't expect to get ''best of the best'' so I was satisfied, but this hype about the camera was just advertising and nothing else.
The screen is a little bit dimmed, even by IPS standards, and I've seen better. (I'm not making a comparison with OLED)
Signal reception & quality was excellent and I had no problems with it whatsoever. The story was different with Wifi speed, especially with the lack of it. Compared with my other phones it was about 60% slower with both devices connected on 2.4gHz freq., so that's a fail.
Now, i have to mention the worst thing and that is software and support. Ok, EMUI is quite different than stock android so most people are not happy about it, but I didn't mind that at all. The most Important thing is that everything is fluid and working smoothly, which was not always the case. I noticed slowdowns and I had to resolve them by clearing cache every now and then. News about Nougat update were welcome and I was so excited to get it. Unfortunately, EMUI 5 is a complete mess. The fact that it looks nice doesn't mean that it works nice. It's filled with bugs and battery life is average, if you're lucky. I don't understand why they released the update if it's not finished, obviously. It should be fluid, fast and consistent, at least if they want to compete with other brands (btw samsung is even worse, you don't even get updates with them).
The biggest highlight for me is the one all the reviews valued as average at best, and that's battery life. I get 6,7,even 8hrs of SOT, and that's a hell of a stat.
Conclusion is....if i had a choice all over again, i would take something else probably. Unfortunately I have to live with it now, and I hope our devs will manage to sort out everything and release a stable Lineage, and we should all make a donation. Only they can make this device worth using for a few years, cause Huawei will certainly not.
I apologize if someone disagrees with me...tell me your thoughts...

I feel you on some of the stuff, i dont have any crazy issues other than the auto brightness and the security patch is still stuck on Dec.2016

Wifi with 5ghz is flawless for me plus the part about slowdowns is a little odd considering the one great strength at this price point is the cpu.
I never have any noticeable slowdowns.
The battery life is surprising though. Without gaming i may get around 5h SOT on Emui 5 B380.
Would you mind sharing usage statistics or any other information about how you pull that off?
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Quite frankly I'm in sort of a love/hate relationship with the phone. I can't really say that EMUI 5 does that bad since it really just works during daily use but at the end of the day i simply don't want it and i dislike the overall feel and style of the software.
This is really the only big letdown for me.
Qualitywise though it's a blast considering that I paid 350€ for it and I still am very happy with it in that regard.
But it's a nobrainer forcing me to use the stockrom and if that policy doesn't change it'll be the last Huawei/Honor phone for me
- Actually scratch the wifi part, i get 60mbps down with the phone compared to the 100-120 i get with my 5 year old wlan stick
Although I think with the H8 it depends strongly on signal strength. I remember it being a lot better when i first tested it
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SharxX8 said:
Wifi with 5ghz is flawless for me plus the part about slowdowns is a little odd considering the one great strength at this price point is the cpu.
I never have any noticeable slowdowns.
The battery life is surprising though. Without gaming i may get around 5h SOT on Emui 5 B380.
Would you mind sharing usage statistics or any other information about how you pull that off?
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Quite frankly I'm in sort of a love/hate relationship with the phone. I can't really say that EMUI 5 does that bad since it really just works during daily use but at the end of the day i simply don't want it and i dislike the overall feel and style of the software.
This is really the only big letdown for me.
Qualitywise though it's a blast considering that I paid 350€ for it and I still am very happy with it in that regard.
But it's a nobrainer forcing me to use the stockrom and if that policy doesn't change it'll be the last Huawei/Honor phone for me
- Actually scratch the wifi part, i get 60mbps down with the phone compared to the 100-120 i get with my 5 year old wlan stick
Although I think with the H8 it depends strongly on signal strength. I remember it being a lot better when i first tested it
Sent from my FRD-L09 using XDA Labs
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I must admit that I'm not a really heavy user. I mostly use whatsapp, web browsing and youtube, and a litlle bit facebook and instagram. Only gmail is set to auto sync. Also I disabled all unnecessary apps. So, only the essential things are running and I'm using EMUI 4.1. I tried out EMUI 5 and my SOT was at least 2hrs less. Talking about wifi, I had the same situation after testing a few times, both on 4.1 and 5.0. My speeds were about 60mbps, and other phones about 120/130 mbps.
I'm dissapointed with the fact that Oneplus One feels like a much faster device, even though it's 3 years old. It has excellent support, and when I flashed 7.1 on it the thing just flies like hell, I was amazed! Don't get me wrong, this is just a personal observation without any real testing but the software use was just excellent.
I just managed to install 1.3gb and 300mb update via FF...I will report if I see any changes, at least concerning battery life.

frommars6 said:
I feel you on some of the stuff, i dont have any crazy issues other than the auto brightness and the security patch is still stuck on Dec.2016
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I completely understand. Some people maybe don't pay so much attention on details, or maybe I'm just a perfectionist.
But:
1) Auto brightness i messed up
2) battery life on EMUI 5 is crap, at least according to large number of users
3) Auto dimming in contacts/sms/browser etc.
4) status bar icons flicker when unlocking with fingerprint
5) Animation break during uninstalling apps from ''apps submenu''
6) bluetooth issues
7)............
If they release an update it should be done right, and not like this

I've had the phone for 2 months. I haven't tested the Wi-Fi bc I get really fast lte at home and have unlimited high speed data. The Wi-Fi has been fine when I've used i but can't compare. I prefer nougat to mm but I had the same experience with battery life...plus rooting process with twrp wasn't very clear. The battery life on mm is amazing. I haven't experienced any slow downs. MM with nova launcher works well for me. I'm actually very happy with this phone.....especially only costing $250. But really the only thing I excuse for price is the lack of nougat....the rest works well enough for me. I came from nexus 5x so this camera is better. I wish there was more development but I'm actually quite happy with emui and think I'd stay rooted stock even if I had another option.

I sold muy HTC 10 ando bought the honor 8, and was the BEST decisión I could made, fast, dont lag att all, 6-8 SOT easily and 24 hours of charge, atand by time 1-2% in 11 hours, great looks, great camera, i like miui, is very customizable, the only bad thing os the development, but besides that, i give Honor 8 10/10

yebbey2 said:
I've had the phone for 2 months. I haven't tested the Wi-Fi bc I get really fast lte at home and have unlimited high speed data. The Wi-Fi has been fine when I've used i but can't compare. I prefer nougat to mm but I had the same experience with battery life...plus rooting process with twrp wasn't very clear. The battery life on mm is amazing. I haven't experienced any slow downs. MM with nova launcher works well for me. I'm actually very happy with this phone.....especially only costing $250. But really the only thing I excuse for price is the lack of nougat....the rest works well enough for me. I came from nexus 5x so this camera is better. I wish there was more development but I'm actually quite happy with emui and think I'd stay rooted stock even if I had another option.
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I agree. And I'm not saying the phone is bad. MM is fine but I like Nougat even more (if it only worked as it should). Lack of support is the biggest issue unfortunately...

kmry said:
I sold muy HTC 10 ando bought the honor 8, and was the BEST decisión I could made, fast, dont lag att all, 6-8 SOT easily and 24 hours of charge, atand by time 1-2% in 11 hours, great looks, great camera, i like miui, is very customizable, the only bad thing os the development, but besides that, i give Honor 8 10/10
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I must admit that EMUI 5 feels much snappier...If they fix the bugs I will update immediately. But I'm not so optimistic.....If we have to wait a year for the update and fixes that's too much. Security patches are also outdated, and what about 7.1..... :crying:

mejgs said:
I must admit that EMUI 5 feels much snappier...If they fix the bugs I will update immediately. But I'm not so optimistic.....If we have to wait a year for the update and fixes that's too much. Security patches are also outdated, and what about 7.1..... :crying:
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What bugs are you talking about, i havnt found any :s? Im información Nougat.

kmry said:
What bugs are you talking about, i havnt found any :s? Im información Nougat.
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Then you are very lucky check my previous post above... Even if everything else is working flawless, 2hrs of SOT less is a big deal.

For me, it's more like: hardware is quite neat but the software is a mess. With the kernel sources not being released by Huawei there is no chance for me to use Lineage as a daily driver. Therefore it's my first and my last Huawei device.

I have had my honor 8 since they first came out.
I was on the UK beta group.
I have not messed with my phone at all, only had the official OTA updates and I must say that I have had no trouble with my phone at all.
It's the best phone I have had.
It's the only phone that I have not rooted.
For my everything works and works well.
The battery with the 380 update is not as good as the 360 but I'm still getting a full day and I'm hammering my phone all day.
The only complaint is with honors reluctant release of the kernel code for EMUI 5 and that we are not getting EMUI 5.1
I'm a happy Honor 8 owner
John

johnhux7 said:
I have had my honor 8 since they first came out.
I was on the UK beta group.
I have not messed with my phone at all, only had the official OTA updates and I must say that I have had no trouble with my phone at all.
It's the best phone I have had.
It's the only phone that I have not rooted.
For my everything works and works well.
The battery with the 380 update is not as good as the 360 but I'm still getting a full day and I'm hammering my phone all day.
The only complaint is with honors reluctant release of the kernel code for EMUI 5 and that we are not getting EMUI 5.1
I'm a happy Honor 8 owner
John
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Likewise, ever since I upgraded to Nougat a couple of months ago, I did not have any real issues either, and I am a power user (I can't really make a comparison about the SOT on MM, because I didn't check the statistics before upgrading, although I have noticed a slight decrease in battery life, but by no means a 2-3 hour difference), so I can't complain

If you have all this problem i think your honor is bugged.... I have some result with Nougat as mm.... The some sot 5 hours with 16/17 hour standby 4g with 3 mail push WhatsApp ecc... I have forced installation of 380 and reset.... No problem At all

grifovunque said:
If you have all this problem i think your honor is bugged.... I have some result with Nougat as mm.... The some sot 5 hours with 16/17 hour standby 4g with 3 mail push WhatsApp ecc... I have forced installation of 380 and reset.... No problem At all
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What are you meaning by saying that you think our phones after bugged ?
You think there is a bug in the 380 update ?
I definitely think that they have got something wrong with this update.
I have replied it via Honor UK Google+ and for the first time they hadn't replied

grifovunque said:
If you have all this problem i think your honor is bugged.... I have some result with Nougat as mm.... The some sot 5 hours with 16/17 hour standby 4g with 3 mail push WhatsApp ecc... I have forced installation of 380 and reset.... No problem At all
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Lucky you but, no it's not bugged. I tested every update, official OTA, Firmware Finder etc....they all have bugs, b360 and b380. If you're trying to say that only small percentage of units is working well then the situation is even worse. That means 8 out of 10 devices is broken out od the box. Considering I was getting up to 8hrs SOT on marshmallow compared with max 4-5 on nougat I think these updates are crap, and yes, I tested all of them including "one week usage", factory resets after updating etc... Now i see people have problems with gyro sensors also...that doesn't surprise me...

faeArai said:
For me, it's more like: hardware is quite neat but the software is a mess. With the kernel sources not being released by Huawei there is no chance for me to use Lineage as a daily driver. Therefore it's my first and my last Huawei device.
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Totally agree with you...nicely said.

As I see it: Huawei won't do jack sh*t about this issues. They released a phone that is, let's say, working excellent (on MM), it looks beautiful, has famous dual camera setup etc. People here have some complaints but it's not gonna make much difference I'm afraid. After seeing the device in person and a few good reviews they will buy it, so did I. Let's be honest, regular consumers just don't care about updates, source codes and all that stuff. I know my girlfriend doesn't have any clue what Nougat is...
Unfortunately, all members of XDA community are a minority and maybe some of us will never buy Huawei phone again, but there are plenty people out there that will.
So, sales go up, money accumulates no matter what we say. I get it, why would they make the effort to make a few people happy.....who gives a damn.
Lack of care for consumers is annoying but at least we have a large variety of devices to choose from so...next year make your choice wisely

mejgs said:
Lucky you but, no it's not bugged. I tested every update, official OTA, Firmware Finder etc....they all have bugs, b360 and b380. If you're trying to say that only small percentage of units is working well then the situation is even worse. That means 8 out of 10 devices is broken out od the box. Considering I was getting up to 8hrs SOT on marshmallow compared with max 4-5 on nougat I think these updates are crap, and yes, I tested all of them including "one week usage", factory resets after updating etc... Now i see people have problems with gyro sensors also...that doesn't surprise me...
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So,i am very lucky
I have buy 3 honor and all works well both with mm and nougat.
I am very happy and lucky

Thinking of upgrading from a Sprint Galaxy Note 4. Camera quality comparisons?

I've had my Galaxy Note 4 for four years now, and it's time for an upgrade. The only two phones I've been eyeing are the Pixel 3 XL and the Oneplus 6T. There are some other good phones out there, but the others I've looked at are unrootable. I love the camera on my GN4, and was wondering if anyone here has previously owned a GN4 and can give me a picture/video comparison with the Oneplus 6T? I've seen the reviews between the Oneplus 6T and Pixel 3, and the Pixel 3 wins easily. Sad thing about the Pixel 3 is that it's so expensive and has smaller battery, but I do love the camera results! I just have no frame of reference to compare my aging phone with the newer ones.
Thanks!

MrSickle said:
I've had my Galaxy Note 4 for four years now, and it's time for an upgrade. The only two phones I've been eyeing are the Pixel 3 XL and the Oneplus 6T. There are some other good phones out there, but the others I've looked at are unrootable. I love the camera on my GN4, and was wondering if anyone here has previously owned a GN4 and can give me a picture/video comparison with the Oneplus 6T? I've seen the reviews between the Oneplus 6T and Pixel 3, and the Pixel 3 wins easily. Sad thing about the Pixel 3 is that it's so expensive and has smaller battery, but I do love the camera results! I just have no frame of reference to compare my aging phone with the newer ones.
Thanks!
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Honestly,if you're pleased w/all things in general with the Note 4,you're giving up a lot of features not found on newer devices.
I definitely recommend keeping the Note 4 before switching to another phone (unless you have a trade-in allowance).
If you're not going to miss an SD Card Slot/3.5 mm audio jack/I-R Blaster/LED Notifications/No Notch, then,you have the gains of more RAM & a newer phone w/better battery life/overall performance.
The OP6T is a nice phone,but,honestly,I think an OP5 or OP5T is a better choice,the former if you prefer the navigation similar to that of the Note4.
(might wanna Google search a camera comparison of the Note 4 to either/both)
Full disclosure:
This advice is coming from a serial phone switcher in recovery/remission ........................ :laugh:

KOLIOSIS said:
Honestly,if you're pleased w/all things in general with the Note 4,you're giving up a lot of features not found on newer devices.
I definitely recommend keeping the Note 4 before switching to another phone (unless you have a trade-in allowance).
If you're not going to miss an SD Card Slot/3.5 mm audio jack/I-R Blaster/LED Notifications/No Notch, then,you have the gains of more RAM & a newer phone w/better battery life/overall performance.
The OP6T is a nice phone,but,honestly,I think an OP5 or OP5T is a better choice,the former if you prefer the navigation similar to that of the Note4.
(might wanna Google search a camera comparison of the Note 4 to either/both)
Full disclosure:
This advice is coming from a serial phone switcher in recovery/remission ........................ :laugh:
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not even a comparison... get it

Logix said:
not even a comparison... get it
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I do have an OP6T, perhaps you wanted to quote the OP?
Comparing phones is subjective at best,just hitting on the features he'd be leaving behind in "upgrading" to either phone.
To some,those features are antiquated,others no so much.
Given the OP has held on to the phone for as long as he has gives me reason to believe the latter....
Too bad the prevailing trend seems to be getting less for more $$$, it's definitely a trade-off.

I've definitely compared what I would be giving up to what I would be gaining. My Sprint GN4 has been unlocked to work with domestic GSM (I have Cricket wireless now) and I have no LTE, and probably missing a few of the used frequencies (although I have never really checked). I love the screen and the camera on the GN4, but I'm stuck on Marshmallow and no security updates. I've tried Lineage OS both Nougat and Oreo, and both have so many bugs, it's not worth the headache. Not to mention it's getting harder to find batteries for it. Most I find now are "new" but end up being used. The GN4 never really did have that great of battery life, so that's one of the things that makes me want to switch to something else. Not that I'm a heavy user, but when you start using the video and taking lots of pics on the GN4, the battery tends to drain quickly. And I was hoping I would get Android Auto to work without having to plug and unplug it several times for it to connect (It's done it on Marshmallow and Lineage OS). It's almost as if it's not loading the applications fast enough for the handshake with the head unit.
I would miss my SD Card slot, that's why I was looking at the 256GB Oneplus 6T model.
KOLIOSIS said:
Honestly,if you're pleased w/all things in general with the Note 4,you're giving up a lot of features not found on newer devices.
I definitely recommend keeping the Note 4 before switching to another phone (unless you have a trade-in allowance).
If you're not going to miss an SD Card Slot/3.5 mm audio jack/I-R Blaster/LED Notifications/No Notch, then,you have the gains of more RAM & a newer phone w/better battery life/overall performance.
The OP6T is a nice phone,but,honestly,I think an OP5 or OP5T is a better choice,the former if you prefer the navigation similar to that of the Note4.
(might wanna Google search a camera comparison of the Note 4 to either/both)
Full disclosure:
This advice is coming from a serial phone switcher in recovery/remission ........................ :laugh:
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MrSickle said:
I've definitely compared what I would be giving up to what I would be gaining. My Sprint GN4 has been unlocked to work with domestic GSM (I have Cricket wireless now) and I have no LTE, and probably missing a few of the used frequencies (although I have never really checked).
I would miss my SD Card slot, that's why I was looking at the 256GB Oneplus 6T model.
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You're definitely in the right place for root/ROMs,OnePlus phones get a good variety of development.
One other feature I failed to address (the elephant in the room, LOL) :
Is the S-Pen something you're using a lot of on the Note4?
If not, then this is the place to be.
Guessing you're aware of the current state of things with the newer US Notes & the pros & cons of importing either version (Snapdragon or Exynos).
If nothing else, most T-Mobile US stores have working demos of the OP6T to test drive, see if it's for you. ?
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I was in your same situation. I had GN4 for 4 years and now i bought the OP6t. Honestly i didn't use the camera of smartphone so much and i cant tell you the difference right now but i will do a comparison tomorrow and post the results here
But regarding all other things, the OP6t is the winner. Better display, great battery life, fingerprint sensor is fast enough (never used on note 4 because it was unconfortable for me), there is also the face unlock and it is very fast; you will not see the lockscreen most of times.
The phone is very very fast and well optimized, no lag and didn't heat neither after an heavy usage.
Feel free to ask anything for the comparision
P.s. sorry for my bad english

The pixel 3 if you care about taking pics, rest of the hardware and value go for the 6t.

I think in the 4 years I've had the Note 4, I may have used the S-Pen maybe 10 times. It can be handy sometimes, but not really a show stopper for me.
I had looked at the International versions of the Samsung devices (GN9, GS9+) and sadly, I would be missing some frequency bands on those devices too
KOLIOSIS said:
You're definitely in the right place for root/ROMs,OnePlus phones get a good variety of development.
One other feature I failed to address (the elephant in the room, LOL) :
Is the S-Pen something you're using a lot of on the Note4?
If not, then this is the place to be.
Guessing you're aware of the current state of things with the newer US Notes & the pros & cons of importing either version (Snapdragon or Exynos).
If nothing else, most T-Mobile US stores have working demos of the OP6T to test drive, see if it's for you.
Sent from my SM-N960U using XDA Labs
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A good camera is important for me. Although I'm not a professional photographer, it has been one of my hobbies for a while. I've managed to capture some really good shots with my Note 4, hence my particular interest in the OP6T as a cheaper alternative to the Pixel 3 XL. I managed to get a look at a Pixel 3 XL in person today and the notch was like a slap in the face. Although, I do know it can be masked out. I don't have any T-mobile stores around that I know of, so I can't check out the OP6T in person. I'm starting to feel like Sheldon on "The Big Bang Theory" where he tries to decide between an Xbox One and PS4
Zekol said:
I was in your same situation. I had GN4 for 4 years and now i bought the OP6t. Honestly i didn't use the camera of smartphone so much and i cant tell you the difference right now but i will do a comparison tomorrow and post the results here
But regarding all other things, the OP6t is the winner. Better display, great battery life, fingerprint sensor is fast enough (never used on note 4 because it was unconfortable for me), there is also the face unlock and it is very fast; you will not see the lockscreen most of times.
The phone is very very fast and well optimized, no lag and didn't heat neither after an heavy usage.
Feel free to ask anything for the comparision
P.s. sorry for my bad english
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There are some pics of both
Note 4:
https://ibb.co/hvEMh0
https://ibb.co/emM4kL
https://ibb.co/dLD0QL
https://ibb.co/byczKf
https://ibb.co/bVjqQL
https://ibb.co/iqz75L
https://ibb.co/iwidC0
https://ibb.co/mQ4ks0
https://ibb.co/fO69Kf
https://ibb.co/hXzbX0
https://ibb.co/hOZRX0
https://ibb.co/hVbUkL
https://ibb.co/gSGjKf
https://ibb.co/jFNukL
https://ibb.co/j0R4kL
https://ibb.co/cOgn5L
https://ibb.co/nnffQL
https://ibb.co/kOBtef
https://ibb.co/nhpzkL
https://ibb.co/cMU4Kf
https://ibb.co/hOmvQL
https://ibb.co/fMnwX0
https://ibb.co/f1kfQL
OnePlus 6T:
https://ibb.co/mtgJef
https://ibb.co/gGPzkL
https://ibb.co/h2Qdef
https://ibb.co/cO5N5L
https://ibb.co/jwhukL
https://ibb.co/jGSGzf
https://ibb.co/jZNGzf
https://ibb.co/bOLmzf
https://ibb.co/ffPJC0
https://ibb.co/dUjqQL
https://ibb.co/cmG9Kf
https://ibb.co/nyTZkL
https://ibb.co/iKBgX0
https://ibb.co/dT44Kf
https://ibb.co/ipo3C0
https://ibb.co/jZmjKf
https://ibb.co/kKD3C0
https://ibb.co/dYDs5L
https://ibb.co/nwkBzf
https://ibb.co/cbn25L
https://ibb.co/i9nAQL
https://ibb.co/js4PkL
https://ibb.co/dXL8C0
As i said, i didn't use the camera of smartphone so much so probably these shots sucks :silly:
I used the auto mode on both as Note 4 doesn't have the pro mode and also i don't know how to use it on OnePlus 6T.
Well, there is also a port of the google camera for OP6t, I have to try it too, maybe i could take some better shots with it.
Hope this evening i can take some shots with low light and even try the night mode, i will update here if i can

Zekol, I can't thank you enough for those pics! Those were exactly the type of comparisons I needed! The camera's are very close in quality, except the OP6T tends to over sharpen the images just a bit, which may be able to be changed in the app or by use of another camera app. If you do happen to take some night shots, just take a few, no need to work yourself to death
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There are some pics of both
Note 4:
https://ibb.co/hvEMh0
https://ibb.co/emM4kL
https://ibb.co/dLD0QL
https://ibb.co/byczKf
https://ibb.co/bVjqQL
https://ibb.co/iqz75L
https://ibb.co/iwidC0
https://ibb.co/mQ4ks0
https://ibb.co/fO69Kf
https://ibb.co/hXzbX0
https://ibb.co/hOZRX0
https://ibb.co/hVbUkL
https://ibb.co/gSGjKf
https://ibb.co/jFNukL
https://ibb.co/j0R4kL
https://ibb.co/cOgn5L
https://ibb.co/nnffQL
https://ibb.co/kOBtef
https://ibb.co/nhpzkL
https://ibb.co/cMU4Kf
https://ibb.co/hOmvQL
https://ibb.co/fMnwX0
https://ibb.co/f1kfQL
OnePlus 6T:
https://ibb.co/mtgJef
https://ibb.co/gGPzkL
https://ibb.co/h2Qdef
https://ibb.co/cO5N5L
https://ibb.co/jwhukL
https://ibb.co/jGSGzf
https://ibb.co/jZNGzf
https://ibb.co/bOLmzf
https://ibb.co/ffPJC0
https://ibb.co/dUjqQL
https://ibb.co/cmG9Kf
https://ibb.co/nyTZkL
https://ibb.co/iKBgX0
https://ibb.co/dT44Kf
https://ibb.co/ipo3C0
https://ibb.co/jZmjKf
https://ibb.co/kKD3C0
https://ibb.co/dYDs5L
https://ibb.co/nwkBzf
https://ibb.co/cbn25L
https://ibb.co/i9nAQL
https://ibb.co/js4PkL
https://ibb.co/dXL8C0
As i said, i didn't use the camera of smartphone so much so probably these shots sucks :silly:
I used the auto mode on both as Note 4 doesn't have the pro mode and also i don't know how to use it on OnePlus 6T.
Well, there is also a port of the google camera for OP6t, I have to try it too, maybe i could take some better shots with it.
Hope this evening i can take some shots with low light and even try the night mode, i will update here if i can
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My Friend, you are driving a Model A, it's cool to look back on but this is a modern Corvette, AKA, a performance value able to whoop phones costing twice as much even if it is missing a few Gucci features. I type that having sent the Pixel 3 XL back and buying this phone instead.
The Note 4 was a little before Samsung really started getting good with their cameras, I'm not saying it was bad, I had one and in the day it was great but they got quite a bit more serious a couple iterations later and it shows; their stuff is top notch now. The 6T on the other hand is not top notch now, it's a second tier camera and you can really see this at night where the 6T camera is a fair bit more noise. In the day it's not bad at all though outside of pushing too much contrast outdoors in HDR; the picture will almost invariably turn out with a bright sunny sky looking darker than the reality. Overall though I doubt you will find the camera a downgrade. Portrait mode is actually useful for more than portraits, for example it can make a picture of something like a statue at a museum pop out of the background and it's a nice effect for such photos.
Performance wise this phone is going to be a whole new world of slick, no rom can make up for vastly more computing power elsewhere and you're going to feel it every time you pick up the phone and manipulate the GUI. You're also going to appreciate the little things that OnePlus has injected into the mostly stockish experience. You'll find that OnePlus tends to be an enjoyable ownership experience stock, they are the type of phone that grows on you. Dont want stock you can run dead reliable stockish roms, alternatively, greatly altered AOSP runs which may or may not be , ahem, dead reliable. But that's all part of the fun.
One thing you're going to notice is that the aspect ratio is comparatively sucktacular. The tall thin thing is great for girls but I would much rather have the older aspect ratios. It's annoying as hell when you're surfing the internet in landscape and the website header scrolls down as you scroll down because it can block as much as half the screen and with these thinner aspect ratios that doesn't leave much wihch sometimes making surfing a pain. I'd totally jump on a browser which blocked that behavior, also a phone that went back to the older aspect ratio but I'm digressing. You may not be pleased with the change, all I'm saying.
Minutia... Duel sim is an interesting capability allowing you to ditch a separate work phone, buy data from one carrier, voice and text from another, etc. I think more people would take advantage of it if they gave it a try. You'll be shedding your unholy attachment to chargers and day by day the anxiety you feel when getting too far from a power source is going to go diminish. How much you miss the S-pen will depend on how much you used it. You indicate that was seldom so it shouldln't be a problem. While you may be stepping away from many features I think like most you probably only used a small percentage of Samsung bloat and you're not actually giving up something you never used anyways. The feature thing is not so big as some make out.
All in all I think you're being silly. I don't mean that in a bad way, I mean you've clearly become much attached to what is an ancient device in cell phone terms and your attachment is clouding your judgement. New phones are substantially better in almost every way, I would be surprised if you aren't very impressed with whatever new device you decide to buy.

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I've definitely compared what I would be giving up to what I would be gaining. My Sprint GN4 has been unlocked to work with domestic GSM (I have Cricket wireless now) and I have no LTE, and probably missing a few of the used frequencies (although I have never really checked). I love the screen and the camera on the GN4, but I'm stuck on Marshmallow and no security updates. I've tried Lineage OS both Nougat and Oreo, and both have so many bugs, it's not worth the headache. Not to mention it's getting harder to find batteries for it. Most I find now are "new" but end up being used. The GN4 never really did have that great of battery life, so that's one of the things that makes me want to switch to something else. Not that I'm a heavy user, but when you start using the video and taking lots of pics on the GN4, the battery tends to drain quickly. And I was hoping I would get Android Auto to work without having to plug and unplug it several times for it to connect (It's done it on Marshmallow and Lineage OS). It's almost as if it's not loading the applications fast enough for the handshake with the head unit.
I would miss my SD Card slot, that's why I was looking at the 256GB Oneplus 6T model.
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I loved my Note5 but having passed on the $500 trade in on the T-Mo Note 9 promo (still too expensive), I figured the $300 back on it for the 6T was too good to pass up. But I had many of the same concerns as you - I absolutely loved the screen on the Note5 and the picture taking quality, along with things like the headphone jack and wireless charging. But I bit the bullet because no more security updates for the Note5, no band 71, and I did notice that *maybe* Google apps were running a bit slower than they used to (figured maybe they were starting to be optimized for newer processors). But the phone was still buttery smooth otherwise.
I'm glad I did it though. It just seems so much faster, and that's saying something because I felt my Note5 was generally pretty fast.
The battery life is freaking phenomenal. That's the only reason I haven't missed the wireless charging. The screen is as good as my Note5, but the auto-brightness is not as "perfect" as it was on the Note. I read there is a tweak coming for that, but it hasn't hit the T-Mo version yet.
@krabman has it so so right with the aspect ratio. Sucktacular is a perfect way of stating it. It makes one-handed use very difficult because of how tall it is. But you get used to that part of it. Landscape is definitely less effective.
As for the pictures, I think it's kind of hit or miss. The low light is definitely better, and bright daylight is great, but I'm not convinced photos in moderate lighting is as good. I would still bite on the phone though. The prices they're getting for Samsung flagships these days are ridiculous. If you have other questions, let me know. Cheers.

Hi, I have the same dilemma and read the post, did you upgrade to op6t and have a better experience with it?

Should I switch?

Hello guys, I'll keep everything short.
I own Pocophone F1 , Should I switch to essential? What are cons and pros of Essential phone? It's on latest pie right now and fingerprint option is missing from settings, Can it be fixed? Is Camera "That" bad? Is battery better than Poco?
Thank you, please don't ignore this post if you have experience

Mrleonsio said:
Hello guys, I'll keep everything short.
I own Pocophone F1 , Should I switch to essential? What are cons and pros of Essential phone? It's on latest pie right now and fingerprint option is missing from settings, Can it be fixed? Is Camera "That" bad? Is battery better than Poco?
Thank you, please don't ignore this post if you have experience
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I have no experience with the Pocophone, but I will say that I have been very pleased with this phone. The only thing I don't like is the sensitivity of adaptive brightness.
A few things about the PH-1 that I like:
1. It was developed by the guy that created the Android operating system, and it's a fairly pure Android experience, with the exception of the camera.
2. It gets security patches monthly, and whenever a new version of the Android operating system is released, the PH-1 usually gets that update the same day.
3. The camera is fine, it's just the stock camera app that's the problem, and even then, the stock app isn't terrible. Plus, there's a nice Google Camera app ported for this phone.
4. Battery life is pretty darn good. As long as I don't forget to turn off the hotspot, AccuBattery estimates almost 24 hours of use for me. Whenever I leave the hotspot on unintentionally, it will drop to around 18 hours.
5. Fingerprint option is not missing for me, and it's always worked fine. I wonder if anyone who's had a problem has a rooted phone. I've left the phone locked and on the stock OS, and it's been great.
6. You can't beat the price. I bought mine for $375 from Best Buy. It's no longer available through them, but you can easily find it in the ~$400 range.

Depends on what you want. The PH-1 has the look and feel of a premium phone with near stock software and timely updates. Battery life is great for 3040 mAh. Might not be as impressive as the 4000 mAh Pocophone. The screen is quite good if you get one without light bleed. The camera isn't great but it's now solid/ good after several updates.
The modular system was a nice idea, however Essential hasn't really done much with it. 360 camera never worked that well and the headphone jack / enhanced DAC accessory is just too little too late.
If you really want the PH-1 you should search about reception issues on your carrier. I had poor reception issues on my original PH-1 and several replacement devices.
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the budget PIxel 3 is going to be announced soon, why not wait for that?

When the price tag was 250-300 it was an obvious choice but since the price has risen to 400-500 dollars i would be less able to suggest it was the best option but for "power users" id say its still the best option. Ultimate customization, no bloat, no bull**** stock apps, 2 adb line bootloader unlock, all stock files and flashes provided by manufacture, great/fast hardware with tons of cool features in a pretty robust chassis. My wife even likes it stock, enough to switch from a life long love of apple.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Redmi Note 9, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Redmi Note 9 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I was given this RN9 yesterday as a present (replacing a Pocophone F1 which broke). Got to say, I love this phone!
It's terrific! Took a bit of meddling to set it up the way I like (switching the stock launcher for CPL and stripping out a load of miui cruft) but the hardware is really lovely. Hoping to get a decent Gcam port, but the stock camera takes really nice photos, going by the handful of snaps I've taken today
NFC reader works perfectly (I'd read somewhere that it didn't actually have one, despite the specs claiming it does - mine, an international M2003J15SG, definitely does have NFC)
If anything, I prefer it to my old F1 - I haven't noticed any performance difference, seems lighter, several features the F1 missed (incl NFC), no notch
And incredible value - just under €180 for the 4/128gb version (or free if it's a birthday present ?)
Face unlock is as quick as the F1's ir unlock
Not seen a single ad in the UI either!
It's great ?
Charging doesn't seem the quickest, but it's an enormous battery to fill I guess

Great phone! Excellent all round ?

Damn this phone has some impressive battery life!! I have a 1+7 pro and this phone gives me way more sot with even more heavy use

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Damn this phone has some impressive battery life!! I have a 1+7 pro and this phone gives me way more sot with even more heavy use
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Saying that, I played PUBG last evening with game turbo on and the battery really suffered. Played it just now without game turbo - still very playable but much more easy on the charge level

RN9 sure is a bang for your buck type of phone which makes you appreciate the extra features it boasts for it's price. Just don't expect flagship type of performance. It's still servicable for your daily needs.

It's good so far , I just switched from my broken Mi Mix 3 . the phone make me rock with his perfect battery and nice performance for such as under 180$ phone. yeah it's lovely

Coming from the Mi A1 so the speed upgrade is very much noticeable. Camera big big upgrade. Screen lovely. However I am disappointed that the reseller sold as Global but it's not, hardware wise. Got the -SS version without NFC running global ROM. That while NFC was one of the main reasons I opted for Note9 not Redmi 9
Also the lack of location based unlocking is annoying.
That said I use the phone mainly for browsing, messaging etc so I'll learn to live with it
Recommended with the strong advice to double check with reseller which exact version you're getting...

Edit: The following problem seems to be remedied in MIUI 12.0.7 update which is great but still, it has taken more than half a year since release that this dreadful problem finally get addressed. Still appreciated that they care about such cheap device.
(This was on a 3/64 GB model)
Overall, I think this phone has a very good value for it's price (stellar battery life, nice display, good SoC, good haptic feedback, multiple nice features), but the only gripe (a big one) I have is the performance issues. For usual tasks, it's okay for a mid-end chip, but sometimes it would just freeze up for so long (more than a minute for sure) that I would have to force restart which I find very irritating. (imagine chatting with your friend and you swap apps to take a screenshot to send to your friend, only for your phone to freeze up waiting for you to restart or wait for more than a minute while your friend is confused as to why you are away for so long) (or just during an online game session and your phone just became unusable while your opponent just wrecks you who helplessly can't do anything)
I have observed that the freezing problem usually occurs when the remaining RAM is low which is almost every time I'm running multiple apps. I would have to try to manually close any apps that I don't need anymore to avoid this problem. This would also mean that playing games will be likely to cause a freeze (which is also really happening).
This problem has been happening since I brought the phone on August with MIUI 11, but MIUI 12 also doesn't fix the issue.
While I don't know if the same thing will happen if I were to go with a higher RAM model, I think this kind of problem should not be happening in the first place (even my old phone from 6 years ago, a Galaxy Note 4 that also has 3GB of RAM, that was broken still doesn't have this issue). If they knew that there would be a freezing problem with a lower RAM model, they shouldn't just have it on sell in the first place. Although I suspect that this is a problem with the software, not hardware which can be fixed in the future (I hope).
Overall, I felt somewhat disappointed

coming from lg v20 very old phone
very smooth i love the battery life i don't care about charging speed as long as the battery lasts for a long time
i recommend getting note 9s or note 9 pro if you can! it is very noticeable for gamers snapdragon is always better and 9 pro for better camera
if you want to root you have to wait for 7 days or 3 depends (sometimes 3 months rare lol) to only unlock phone
a lot of bloatware it is xiaomi after all so i suggest debloater or just sell your data

OnePlus 8T+5G (KB2007) daily driver review

can a mod please move this to real life reviews I could not post this there all I did was hit the button in the XDA app and it would never post, thanks in advance
Let me start off by saying I'm coming from a rooted OnePlus 7 pro that I had for over a year. And I switched to the 8T+5G as a daily driver almost a week ago. Here are my thoughts...
Display- 5 out 5 amazing
Let me start by reviewing the display, this was my most hyped feature the 120 HZ display coming from the 90 that I already liked I was excited for the 120. First thing out of the box I compared my 7 pro to the 18 just by swiping around playing with the home screen and I saw an immediate difference I loved it! I also use a tool, jOnePlus Tools, app to force 120 all the time. I am not a heavy phone gamer but the little bit of games I do play I love seeing high refresh rates because it just makes everything so creamy smooth. I'm loving the flat screen I hate curved screens.
Connectivity- 3.5 out of 5 meh not bad not amazing difference
I don't live in a major city but I when I have been in the city I didn't notice a huge boost of speeds but checking with speed tests at various locations I've seen roughly 50 to 350 megabits down and a consistent 20ish up.
Hardware- 4 out of 5 pretty sweet
I really like using my phone as a connected android auto for my vehicles head unit and I have a bluetooth connected cobra radar detector so my phone screen is on for radar detector plus phone running AA screen with music and maps running. Now on my rooted 7Pro, this would heat my device and drain it while it was plugged in like it was going out of style, so much so I built a makeshift cooler using one of my air vents and cover for my dash mount to keep it out of the sun. Using this same setup I don't even need my air conditioning running and the 8T stays decently cooled, not cold but definitely not hot without my ac running in my car. I also love the 12gb ram, on my 7pro I usually ran with about 2gb to spare on idle and I never quite liked that it was so little. This is coming from the pc gamer that put 32gb of ram in his pc back in 2016 thinking it might not be enough....
Battery- 3 out of 5 pretty disappointed it doesn't last all day
Let me start by saying that I think this could be a lot better if I had this rooted and was able to properly debloat it. But as of now that's not an option and my review stands. With or without heavy use it does drain fairly fast during the day for me. I only have a couple of apps that are not battery optimized (basically the same setup I had on my 7Pro but without rooted apps and it did last all day with heavy use) I also suspect that forcing 120hz all day makes a difference as well but only time will tell. I also make a point to never fast charge my devices because I want the batteries to last as long as possible so minimal heat
Overall a 3.875 (f*** it call it a 4 out of 5)
So far it's been a good successor to my 7pro.
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Is it really "that" much better than say 7t pro 5g that can be picked up for 1/2 as much right now? I'm still on 6T right now, but was looking to upgrade. Still not quite sold on 8T, given how its cam is not exactly getting good reviews. thanks for this review.

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Is it really "that" much better than say 7t pro 5g that can be picked up for 1/2 as much right now? I'm still on 6T right now, but was looking to upgrade. Still not quite sold on 8T, given how its cam is not exactly getting good reviews. thanks for this review.
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I'm surprised the sensors are the same as 7! However, people on the camera thread are saying GCam helps a lot. Oh, plus they are going to improve the camera on each ROM update of course.

RussianBear said:
Is it really "that" much better than say 7t pro 5g that can be picked up for 1/2 as much right now? I'm still on 6T right now, but was looking to upgrade. Still not quite sold on 8T, given how its cam is not exactly getting good reviews. thanks for this review.
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Coming from the 7pro, I definitely think it's worth the upgrade. The ONLY thing I could say the 7 pro was better was the screen resolution BUT I'm still happy with it on the 8t especially with the 120hz
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I had the 7 Pro...great phone...never had an issue. I now have the 8T...great phone...no problems so far! I think the fingerprint reader on the 7 Pro was a "little" bit more accurate. I have to be more cognizant of placing my thumb dead center on the reader to get an unlock on the first try. It seemed that the 7 Pro was more forgiving on the placement. Signal bars on the shade appear lower...but the reality is not how many bars are showing but the actual signal strength itself which can be viewed in the settings. When looking in the settings they are both the same. I have not had any lost signals or disconnects so far. I liked the pop-up selfie on the 7 Pro because the screen was clean with no punch holes. However, I HATE curved screens...and I hope I never have to buy one ever again...FLAT all the way! I am not one to hold the phone 3 inches away from my face so I do not care, or see, any difference at all between the two when doing normal tasks. 120 refresh rate does make the phone "seem" smoother, but in most real world use running the 8T at 60 is perfectly acceptable. A few years ago the description "buttery smooth" was used extensively on phones that "only" ran at 60...so to me it's more of a gimmick than something necessary to a good phone. I am not thrilled with punch hole selfies...I rarely take any pictures at all and even fewer selfies...but I use a dark wallpaper so you don't really see it anyway. I wish it was centered instead of on the side but that's more of an OCD thing. Does the 8T work better in day-to-day functionality than the 7 Pro? NO it does not! They are both fast, smooth, competent phones that can take pictures, make phone calls, and communicate using email, and texting. So, for me, the deciding factor was the flat screen VS the curved screen. As I mentioned already I hate curved screens as I think they serve no functional purpose on any phone other than to weaken the shatter resistance of an already fragile glass screen.

Thanks. I've researched the 7t pro 5g and development is definitely lacking (no twrp support even). Though I don't customize much these days, having a custom recovery has always been a must. Thanks for your thoughts, guys.

Is Oneplus8T and Oneplus8T+5G has the same codename kebab? As the only difference between them is the IP68 and memory option...
Before purchasing one i just want to make this clear...

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Is Oneplus8T and Oneplus8T+5G has the same codename kebab? As the only difference between them is the IP68 and memory option...
Before purchasing one i just want to make this clear...
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From what I can tell it's the same device. One is just sold by t-mobile the other isn't

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From what I can tell it's the same device. One is just sold by t-mobile the other isn't
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It is weird on gsmarena says the KB2007 T-Mobile version has got IP68 certificate and the rest of 8T does not.

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It is weird on gsmarena says the KB2007 T-Mobile version has got IP68 certificate and the rest of 8T does not.
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They all have the same rubber gaskets covering the ports and sim card tray. They are identical with internal hardware components. Only difference is that OnePlus didn't want to pay the extra money out for IP68 certificate with the non T-Mobile versions. Meaning that T-Mobile wanted this certificate to get customers to buy the device from them. A marketing gimmick both OnePlus and T-Mobile saw profitable potential in.