(double post) Differences between AMZ and GFI firmware? - LG V35 Questions & Answers

USA and GFI seem to be the same firmware (same md5 checksum for the ones I've tried) but what's the difference between the one from Amazon and GFI? I assumed the one from Amazon was just an unlocked version of the phone, not that it came from Amazon and with customizations and stuff but maybe it does? Would like to know.
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New FireTV arrived today - Still rootable!

I missed out on buying from Staples for $74 the other day (they were out of stock when I went to order), so I bit the bullet and ordered from Amazon directly, while the price is still $84. It arrived today, shipped out of Tennessee.
Being the optimist, I took the precautions to block software updates, and I'm thrilled to say that the FireTV I received has 5.1.1.0.1_user_510055620 installed on it.
So, if you think you've missed the boat on getting a rootable FireTV, as of yesterday, Amazon was still shipping units with the old firmware, so you might still be in luck.
Pardon me, I've got a FireTV to root... :victory:
Taige said:
I missed out on buying from Staples for $74 the other day (they were out of stock when I went to order), so I bit the bullet and ordered from Amazon directly, while the price is still $84. It arrived today, shipped out of Tennessee.
Being the optimist, I took the precautions to block software updates, and I'm thrilled to say that the FireTV I received has 5.1.1.0.1_user_510055620 installed on it.
So, if you think you've missed the boat on getting a rootable FireTV, as of yesterday, Amazon was still shipping units with the old firmware, so you might still be in luck.
Pardon me, I've got a FireTV to root... :victory:
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the one i got a month ago from amazon was on the old fw and the one i got today was as well. it will be that way until sell em all and start manufacturing new ones maybe idk
CLran619 said:
the one i got a month ago from amazon was on the old fw and the one i got today was as well. it will be that way until sell em all and start manufacturing new ones maybe idk
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Unfortunately as the whole support for german language and region was introduced in the new so far "unrootable" firmware i guess german customers won't be that lucky...
I'm getting my FTV from Amazon's $84 deal tomorrow, so hopefully it's still the rootable variety. I'm setting up OpenDNS with the assumption that it is, or that some smart person figures out how to root the version that I get...
Hey guys the new one I got today is also x. 620
I've looked thorough the guides but I am not sure what the next steps to root are. Would anyone want to tell me quickly what steps I need to do to root this baby?
In one of the guides it mentions that from this firmware I should let it update... I'm sure you can understand why that step makes me nervous.
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I don't suggest you let it update... Have you followed the guide to block OTA updates? Do that first, if you haven't already.
I started at the level you are on. I just rooted it following the guide here:
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-root-the-amazon-fire-tv/
After you are done with that, install ClockWork Recovery by following this guide:
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-install-clockworkmod-custom-recovery-on-the-amazon-fire-tv/
After that, you can update to a pre-rooted image, by following this guide:
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-install-a-custom-rom-image-on-the-amazon-fire-tv/
That's the path I followed, and it worked out great.
Consider trying adbFire.
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Root Amazon Fire TV
Extensive log produced after each run
Install ClockworkMod
Mount USB drives and sticks
Samba file sharing for /usb & /sdcard
Upgrade/Downgrade AFTV firmware
Install/Uninstall Apps
Busybox included
World-wide Llama functionality for XBMC
Checks online for program updates
Backup/Restore XBMC (and forks) data
File Management on Fire TV
Mount AFTV filesystem R/W
and more ...
Taige said:
I missed out on buying from Staples for $74 the other day (they were out of stock when I went to order), so I bit the bullet and ordered from Amazon directly, while the price is still $84. It arrived today, shipped out of Tennessee.
Being the optimist, I took the precautions to block software updates, and I'm thrilled to say that the FireTV I received has 5.1.1.0.1_user_510055620 installed on it.
So, if you think you've missed the boat on getting a rootable FireTV, as of yesterday, Amazon was still shipping units with the old firmware, so you might still be in luck.
Pardon me, I've got a FireTV to root... :victory:
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I think its a cr***shoot. to be honest. I was able to pick up two units with that exact firmware, both routable, then got a third and it must have had a newer firmware on it because with the two addresses blocked it did not allow root. These boxes came from the same staples store by the way, so it just depends on stock available. You got lucky.
Thanks for the replies guys. I was using the initial setup guide and there is a step where it asks you to look at the update that it was trying to install on first boot. I read that piece wrong and thought it said if I was on the 6xxx update I should let it update when in fact it was showing an example of where someone on the 6xxx was being pushed the last rootable update.
Anyway long story short, I downloaded all of the apks to root, rooted and installed Xbox and xposed. Is there any real reason to install a custom recovery at the moment?
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I used adbfire very nice tool. Thanks much.
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nineismine said:
Is there any real reason to install a custom recovery at the moment?
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If you want to install any of the newer updates.
nineismine said:
Thanks for the replies guys. I was using the initial setup guide and there is a step where it asks you to look at the update that it was trying to install on first boot. I read that piece wrong and thought it said if I was on the 6xxx update I should let it update when in fact it was showing an example of where someone on the 6xxx was being pushed the last rootable update.
Anyway long story short, I downloaded all of the apks to root, rooted and installed Xbox and xposed. Is there any real reason to install a custom recovery at the moment?
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I used adbfire very nice tool. Thanks much.
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So you can back up your system also. I ended up messing one of mine up before I had a chance to install a recovery trying to get Link2SD to work properly. I learned the hard way that if you factory reset it doesn't matter if you have updates disabled and both update links blocked in your router it will still update to the newest version. Now one of my Fire TV's is unrootable and its on the newest software. Lesson learned on that. The other one is running a rooted version of the newest software thanks to rbox's awesome recovery program.

Availability of International Firmware (Maybe flashing over Chinese firmware)

So I've noticed that there are some international firmware available online:
http://aria-file.com/?cd=Huawei/M/Mate 8 - NXT
Unfortunately, seems to be all Iranian sites, and they all want money for the downloads.
Anyone see these files out in the wild somewhere? I'd like to try flashing the international firmware over my Chinese firmware.
hm not sure but it looks like im able to download the roms without having to pay. will try again from my laptop (on mobile now) and report back...
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jbmc83 said:
hm not sure but it looks like im able to download the roms without having to pay. will try again from my laptop (on mobile now) and report back...
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Thanks! I can't even seem to make an account. Whenever I do, I try to login and it's called inactive.
nope, false alarm unfortunately, cant access the site either, even with a registered account....bummer!
im sure, additional sources will pop up in due time though
I managed to pay for it and get the latest firmware for both international models. I also successfully converted my Chinese model to an international model, in terms of software. I will write more in a separate post after figuring this out a little more.
duraaraa said:
I managed to pay for it and get the latest firmware for both international models. I also successfully converted my Chinese model to an international model, in terms of software. I will write more in a separate post after figuring this out a little more.
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If you have managed to pay for it could u post it here on the forums for everyone to use maybe via google drive link?
um, he already did exactly that...?
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Someone tested which Firmware is better the chinese B137 or international B133?
well with B133 theres definitely less hassle configuring the google apps and services also got the world record in geekbench for released mobile devices with other AL10 phones with international firmware getting consistently higher scores than stock al10 and stock l29 phones
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RETUS stock firmware?

Does anyone have the stock fw for retus devices? (I unwisely neglected to back it up before modifying /system. Thought I had. Oops.) Thanks.
Kufat said:
Does anyone have the stock fw for retus devices? (I unwisely neglected to back it up before modifying /system. Thought I had. Oops.) Thanks.
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go here bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e06UeBE1T3A
hit thumbs up if i helped you
Thanks. I did see that, and the other thread, but I thought it was a different region's FW.
Is /system the same across regions and just /oem different? What makes a retus phone different from a retin/reteu one; where does that setting live?
I recovered my RETUS XT1687 with the rom that was labeled -35 (as I remember mine came with -35, it's an Amazon non subsidized model)
there are definitely differences between RETIN/RETEU and RETUS mainly the replacement of NFC with a compass but I have seen no issues with the rom I used(ie: TMUS wifi calling works, VoLTE works, camera works, etc)...I wonder if there's scripts that install the proper blobs?
bakedpatato said:
I recovered my RETUS XT1687 with the rom that was labeled -35 (as I remember mine came with -35, it's an Amazon non subsidized model)
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Interesting. Is your "software channel" still showing up as retus?
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Interesting. Is your "software channel" still showing up as retus?
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Yep
Did you use POTTER_NPN25.137-35 or POTTER_AMZ_NPN25.137-35 ?? (AMZ is presumably the Amazon in-store app version?)
bakedpatato said:
I recovered my RETUS XT1687 with the rom that was labeled -35 (as I remember mine came with -35, it's an Amazon non subsidized model)
there are definitely differences between RETIN/RETEU and RETUS mainly the replacement of NFC with a compass but I have seen no issues with the rom I used(ie: TMUS wifi calling works, VoLTE works, camera works, etc)...I wonder if there's scripts that install the proper blobs?
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GoodOlDan said:
Did you use POTTER_NPN25.137-35 or POTTER_AMZ_NPN25.137-35 ?? (AMZ is presumably the Amazon in-store app version?)
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I don't think I've seen a AMZ image but i used the former...I dunno what would happen if I installed the AMZ one on my phone as mine isn't an AMZ model
Moto Firmware
I did the same thing with my moto g6 xt1925-6 variant. I couldn't get factory firmware from Motorola but I did come across this site hosting a bunch of factory images. Hope it helps.
mirrors. lolinet. com/firmware/moto/
Sorry it's first post and it won't let me post the URL in one piece.
AlexUlrich99 said:
I did the same thing with my moto g6 xt1925-6 variant. I couldn't get factory firmware from Motorola but I did come across this site hosting a bunch of factory images. Hope it helps.
mirrors. lolinet. com/firmware/moto/
Sorry it's first post and it won't let me post the URL in one piece.
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https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/
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amazon firmware

Hello everybody. I just wanted to know if someone has an official firmware for the amazon channel NPNS25.137-93-8. Because I can not find it myself. Required to lock bootloader
marsian4uk said:
Hello everybody. I just wanted to know if someone has an official firmware for the amazon channel NPNS25.137-93-8. Because I can not find it myself. Required to lock bootloader
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As the Amazon firmware was unlockable until a few days ago there is no special firmware uploaded.
But I'm not sure that you can't flash the standard firmware or maybe the builds are identical. Unfortunately there is no NPNS25.137-93-8 firmware uploaded atm but there is a NPNS25.137-93-10 build (april security patch):https://drive.google.com/open?id=16Bfp3nVfvKMURAeKagOaOImX-lvJrYBF
As I said, I'm not sure if the firmwares are similar so if you flash it you do it at your own risk.
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hi
Wolfcity said:
As the Amazon firmware was unlockable until a few days ago there is no special firmware uploaded.
But I'm not sure that you can't flash the standard firmware or maybe the builds are identical. Unfortunately there is no NPNS25.137-93-8 firmware uploaded atm but there is a NPNS25.137-93-10 build (april security patch):
As I said, I'm not sure if the firmwares are similar so if you flash it you do it at your own risk.
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browsing the files. The difference is only OEM partition. What is it for?
marsian4uk said:
browsing the files. The difference is only OEM partition. What is it for?
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It's a kind of manufacturer storage:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/cr...on-general/observation-oem-partition-t3189677
All changes the manufacturer does are stored in OEM.
So if you flash a standard firmware the device may change to a standard retail device too.
But this is a bit over my knowledge about firmwares, maybe some of the pro's could have a look into it.
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Wolfcity said:
It's a kind of manufacturer storage:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/cr...on-general/observation-oem-partition-t3189677
All changes the manufacturer does are stored in OEM.
So if you flash a standard firmware the device may change to a standard retail device too.
But this is a bit over my knowledge about firmwares, maybe some of the pro's could have a look into it.
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so, if I will be able to flash OEM partition, i can get OTA on reteu?
marsian4uk said:
so, if I will be able to flash OEM partition, i can get OTA on reteu?
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If you flash the complete NPNS25.137-93-10 firmware via fastboot (as there is no 93-8 available and downgrading could hardbrick your device) it should work like this. It's the same hardware after all.
But there is always a risk in crossflashing (if this is crossflashing at all), maybe Amazon has built in some kind of security feature.
But as far as I understand the whole thing the Amazon version is just a normal Moto G5+ with some changes made in the oem partition.
If you flash the 93-10 firmware all traces should be overwritten and you should be in the standard reteu channel and be able to receive OTA for it.
But remember, you do everything at your own risk.
Maybe you can contact someone who owns a Amazon build too, here is a thread about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/help/resolved-root-moto-g5-plus-amazon-t3652932
Edit: After unlocking your device it is wiped.
Did you recognise the difference of the oem partition before or after the wipe?
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Wolfcity said:
If you flash the complete NPNS25.137-93-10 firmware via fastboot (as there is no 93-8 available and downgrading could hardbrick your device) it should work like this. It's the same hardware after all.
But there is always a risk in crossflashing (if this is crossflashing at all), maybe Amazon has built in some kind of security feature.
But as far as I understand the whole thing the Amazon version is just a normal Moto G5+ with some changes made in the oem partition.
If you flash the 93-10 firmware all traces should be overwritten and you should be in the standard reteu channel and be able to receive OTA for it.
But remember, you do everything at your own risk.
Maybe you can contact someone who owns a Amazon build too, here is a thread about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/help/resolved-root-moto-g5-plus-amazon-t3652932
Edit: After unlocking your device it is wiped.
Did you recognise the difference of the oem partition before or after the wipe?
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OEM is changing the size of various software versions of the same update channel. Can this be helpful?
marsian4uk said:
OEM is changing the size of various software versions of the same update channel. Can this be helpful?
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I think that depends OTA updates. For example: Some users flashed a 92-x firmware on their european/us (reteu,retus)device. This firmware is made for India and South America (retin,retbra).
Their devices are still working completely but they don't get any OTA anymore. The devices still say reteu but the OTA server is looking for a 93-x firmware which is not present. I think these users can return to their software channel by flashing a 93-x firmware.
As you are going to flash a 93-x on a device running a 93-x firmware you should be good to go.
The only uncertainty is if Amazon has done anything that signs your device as "Amazon prime" even after flashing a whole new firmware.
The result would be no OTA. But I don't think so, even if that may be technically possible.
We all won't be sure until someone with a Amazon device tries it.
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Wolfcity said:
I think that depends OTA updates. For example: Some users flashed a 92-x firmware on their european/us (reteu,retus)device. This firmware is made for India and South America (retin,retbra).
Their devices are still working completely but they don't get any OTA anymore. The devices still say reteu but the OTA server is looking for a 93-x firmware which is not present. I think these users can return to their software channel by flashing a 93-x firmware.
As you are going to flash a 93-x on a device running a 93-x firmware you should be good to go.
The only uncertainty is if Amazon has done anything that signs your device as "Amazon prime" even after flashing a whole new firmware.
The result would be no OTA. But I don't think so, even if that may be technically possible.
We all won't be sure until someone with a Amazon device tries it.
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do you think theres some chance we could bootloader unlock if this were successful?
krzee said:
do you think theres some chance we could bootloader unlock if this were successful?
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The only way to find it out is to try it.
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Differences between AMZ and GFI firmware?

USA and GFI seem to be the same firmware (same md5 checksum for the ones I've tried) but what's the difference between the one from Amazon and GFI? I assumed the one from Amazon was just an unlocked version of the phone, not that it came from Amazon and with customizations and stuff but maybe it does? Would like to know.
rpgdev said:
USA and GFI seem to be the same firmware (same md5 checksum for the ones I've tried) but what's the difference between the one from Amazon and GFI? I assumed the one from Amazon was just an unlocked version of the phone, not that it came from Amazon and with customizations and stuff but maybe it does? Would like to know.
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No difference right now, but best to stick with the NAO version. No difference there, either, but at least it promises it's the North American Open Market variant.
On V30 all the way through Nougat and Oreo there were no differences between the various US998 variant KDZ, but now with Pie there is a difference with US998 Pie US998 KDZ. So it can happen.
NAO firmware is the safest.
ChazzMatt said:
No difference right now
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But the Amazon firmware, unlike GFI and USA, is a couple hundred MB bigger in size so what accounts for that difference?
Can I flash the US unlocked on AT&T model?
citizendela said:
Can I flash the US unlocked on AT&T model?
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Yep. You sure can.
Ok great. How do I go about it? What's the process/method?
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Shawnashley said:
Yep. You sure can.
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Okay great. How do I go about it? What's the process/method?
Will I be able to get updates?

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