Exynos990 GPU is not even half as powerful as SD865 after 20 mins of sustained load - Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News

Exynos990 GPU heats up and throttles so hard that it's not even half as powerful as SD865 after 20 mins of sustained load
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5fmAcEkfSw

lch920619x said:
Exynos990 GPU heats up and throttles so hard that it's not even half as powerful as SD865 after 20 mins of sustained load
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The middle cores in the Exynos are running at high frequencies almost all the time and that will generate a lot of heat, especially in heavy apps. Compared to the SD, CPU frequencies in all cores were lower. Are you running the Exynos at high performance mode?
ARM Mali G77 is a new GPU, it will require more optimizations and software updates.. it is not a bad GPU.

lch920619x said:
Exynos990 GPU heats up and throttles so hard that it's not even half as powerful as SD865 after 20 mins of sustained load
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Did you import the SD version?

I wonder if it's in high performance mode, Apparently Sammy messed it up on exynos variants, and the power consumption + heat generation is tremendous.
Andrei from Anandtech will probably have an insight as he does every year in his detailed review of both Socs.

mohammed510 said:
The middle cores in the Exynos are running at high frequencies almost all the time and that will generate a lot of heat, especially in heavy apps. Compared to the SD, CPU frequencies in all cores were lower. Are you running the Exynos at high performance mode?
ARM Mali G77 is a new GPU, it will require more optimizations and software updates.. it is not a bad GPU.
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I show at the beginning of the video both are in optimized mode

Aezhyr said:
Did you import the SD version?
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Yes

Sora94 said:
I wonder if it's in high performance mode, Apparently Sammy messed it up on exynos variants, and the power consumption + heat generation is tremendous.
Andrei from Anandtech will probably have an insight as he does every year in his detailed review of both Socs.
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Both are in optimized mode

lch920619x said:
Yes
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What version is it?
And is the bootloader unlockable?

Aezhyr said:
What version is it?
And is the bootloader unlockable?
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Korea version, sm-G986n, not sure about bootloader, haven't rooted my device for a long time

lch920619x said:
Korea version, sm-G986n, not sure about bootloader, haven't rooted my device for a long time
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Where did you buy it from? Wonda Mobile?

Aezhyr said:
Where did you buy it from? Wonda Mobile?
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Nope I'm from Singapore my friend brought it in for me from China. It's complicated

lch920619x said:
Nope I'm from Singapore my friend brought it in for me from China. It's complicated
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If you are in singapore why would you buy it from korea? no waranty means basically its a brick.

djyeo1 said:
If you are in singapore why would you buy it from korea? no waranty means basically its a brick.
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Because exynos 990 is basically a brick even with warranty

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Exynos vs Snapdragon benchmarks

A thread where all benchmarks are posted. Especially when comparing exynos vs SD 820
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7_and_s7_edge_benchmarked_the_exynos_flavor-news-16794.php
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Seems way of if you ask me.. should kill the z5... There is deff something wrong here!
johanbiff said:
Seems way of if you ask me.. should kill the z5... There is deff something wrong here!
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Z5 is rendering in 1080p so there's no surprise it comes ahead in onscreen benchmarks. The mali-gpu is also not the strongest. Pretty sure the 820 will perform better.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G5-shakes-hands-with-Snapdragon-820-to-shatter-AnTuTu-records-benchmark-test-scores_id78636
LG G5 seems to be scoring almost 20k higher than the exynos 8890-equipped S7. S820 looks to be the better SoC by far at this point.
https://youtu.be/qMJ2x6POZak
128k there.i guess its the exynos
Anyway not enough to surpass the iphone
http://www.antutu.com/en/view.shtml?id=8184
s3ns3lol said:
https://youtu.be/qMJ2x6POZak
128k there.i guess its the exynos
Anyway not enough to surpass the iphone
http://www.antutu.com/en/view.shtml?id=8184
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Seriously ? Do you even know how ios and android operate ?
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To sum things up: the Snapdragon 820 sports a better GPU, the Exynos 8890 sports a better CPU and a better DAC (Qualcomm DACs just haven't got the best of reputations, while the Exynos usually sport a decent Wolfson DAC), Qualcomm SOCs however usually sport a better baseband/radio than the competition.
I would say, in daily usages, the performances should be negligible, the real impact between both should be battery life related, an early preview done on the Exynos 8890 version claims a 12hrs battery life at maximum brightness on the S7 (not the S7 Edge), I guess we will see how it goes when more reviews come in.
mathieulh said:
To sum things up: the Snapdragon 820 sports a better GPU, the Exynos 8890 sports a better CPU and a better DAC (Qualcomm DACs just haven't got the best of reputations, while the Exynos usually sport a decent Wolfson DAC), Qualcomm SOCs however usually sport a better baseband/radio than the competition.
I would say, in daily usages, the performances should be negligible, the real impact between both should be battery life related, an early preview done on the Exynos 8890 version claims a 12hrs battery life at maximum brightness on the S7 (not the S7 Edge), I guess we will see how it goes when more reviews come in.
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No Wolfson this time. It seems Samsung is using an in-house DAC.
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/02/22...ony-imx260-camera-sensor-in-house-audio-chip/
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skivnit said:
Seriously ? Do you even know how ios and android operate ?
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Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
s3ns3lol said:
Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
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No you dont get it. Android uses multi cores to the fullest thats why multi core performance is the thing to look at, i suggest u read a piece on the subject on Anandtech
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another benchmark between sd 820 and 8890:
www.anandtech.com/show/10075/early-exynos-8890-impressions
i hope the 4 core difference between the two doesn't mean worse performance on the sd 820 variant. Also if you in the EU you will -apparently- be getting the exynos variant :crying:
i also read somewhere that said that the sd 820 had 2x custom (kyro) a-72 cores and 2x custom (kyro) a-53 cores and not 4x cutom (kyro) a-72 cores, hope its not true.
s3ns3lol said:
Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
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Quoted from the comments of the article at AnandTech linked above:
It seems perfectly competitive in the graphics benchmarks, and comparing JavaScript benchmarks across different hardware, OS, and browser configurations is useless. To say Apple's Safari team "aggressively optimizes" for Octane and Kraken would be an understatement. Plus we're talking about simple benchmarks that can barely make any use of a second processor core, so of course they make the A9's dual-core CPU design look good next to more parallel competitors. Run something like Geekbench MT or the 3DMark physics test and watch A9 lose out to even Exynos 7420 or SD 810.
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overlordofdoom1 said:
another benchmark between sd 820 and 8890:
www.anandtech.com/show/10075/early-exynos-8890-impressions
i hope the 4 core difference between the two doesn't mean worse performance on the sd 820 variant. Also if you in the EU you will -apparently- be getting the exynos variant :crying:
i also read somewhere that said that the sd 820 had 2x custom (kyro) a-72 cores and 2x custom (kyro) a-53 cores and not 4x cutom (kyro) a-72 cores, hope its not true.
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The s820 has two custom cores and two lower-clocked A53s. It really won't matter that it has two fewer larger cores, as more cores leads to more heat, and more heat to more throttling. Only in benchmarks will it be noticeable.
Toss3 said:
The s820 has two custom cores and two lower-clocked A53s.
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Where did you find that the 2 lower clocked are indeed A53s? What I have read, SD820 has 2 high clocked 2.15GHz and 2 low clocked 1.59GHz "Kryo cores"? So those 2 downclocked Kryo cores should be A72 like power not A53?
SAVVAS. said:
Where did you find that the 2 lower clocked are indeed A53s? What I have read, SD820 has 2 high clocked 2.15GHz and 2 low clocked 1.59GHz "Kryo cores"? So those 2 downclocked Kryo cores should be A72 like power not A53?
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Hmm not sure, but pretty sure they aren't the same cores as the faster ones, as that way they could just have clocked them higher, and have them downclock instead of having them at 1.59Ghz all the time.
GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
TANKRED_ENDURES said:
GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
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Ouch i think for sd820 we have to wait a bit since its us and China only
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TANKRED_ENDURES said:
GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
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Says the test ran for 220 minutes. EDIT: Okey that was the results of the battery-test. But still where did you get 10 minutes from? If you look at the graphs you can clearly see that it dips only once to 1400 and that was at about the 1200 second mark (20 minutes).
http://www.talkandroid.com/286767-vivo-xplay-5-gets-benchmarked-on-antutu/#more-286767
Vivo Xplay 5 scored around 160k on Antutu and that is with the Snapdragon 820. Think Samsung should have stuck with Qualcomm for all regions this time around. Wish we could get the sd-version here in Europe as well.
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http://www.talkandroid.com/286767-vivo-xplay-5-gets-benchmarked-on-antutu/#more-286767
Vivo Xplay 5 scored around 160k on Antutu and that is with the Snapdragon 820. Think Samsung should have stuck with Qualcomm for all regions this time around. Wish we could get the sd-version here in Europe as well.
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Its probably fake as most of the score comes from GPU which is impossible and then theres 1080p vs qhd screen question
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Throttling looks much better compared to 7420.
They have made GPU wider and lower frequency, also better manufacturin process. Bound to get better compared to 7420.
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Its probably fake as most of the score comes from GPU which is impossible and then theres 1080p vs qhd screen question
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Yes, in latest version of Antutu it gives more priority to onscreen numbers and single core performance. That's why iPhones are at top of chain in Antutu

Replacing Exynos with Snapdragon 820 - is it possible?

Hi,
as the title says, is it possible to buy the exynos version of galaxy s7 edge, but then change the CPU later to a snapdragon 820?
If it is possible to change the CPU / GPU where would i be able to find it as a sparepart?
Thanks in advance.
Eaglesix said:
Hi,
as the title says, is it possible to buy the exynos version of galaxy s7 edge, but then change the CPU later to a snapdragon 820?
If it is possible to change the CPU / GPU where would i be able to find it as a sparepart?
Thanks in advance.
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Not possible. You'd be better off just buying a Snapdragon variant but I have no idea why you would want to do that when the general consensus is the exynos version is slightly better.
what he said^^
Surely this is not a serious question. You intend to desolder the existing cpu?
sc2ascend said:
Not possible. You'd be better off just buying a Snapdragon variant but I have no idea why you would want to do that when the general consensus is the exynos version is slightly better.
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Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
Having some experience with PCB and electronics production, no it would not be possible to outright swap the cpu.
But maybe if you are good at tinkering you could buy a motherboard off of a broken device and swap that?
I do not have a lot of experience with electronics modification so i guess my only option is to buy the Snapdragon variant from another country.
In this context does anyone know of any verified phone sellers on the asian market (where the snapdragon variant currently is available) that has a webshop with international delivery?
Also if i buy the phone from asia will i be able to use it with a telephone subscription in Europe or is there some fundamental differences on the phone depending on where you buy it?
g4Nk said:
Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
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Nope, the only thing sd820 is better than 8890 is GPU. In cpu 8890 kills the sd820 even on battery life.
johanbiff said:
Nope, the only thing sd820 is better than 8890 is GPU. In cpu 8890 kills the sd820 even on battery life.
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Um, the 820 CPU beats the 8890 in single core performance. And battery life with the 820... well, I'll let my screenshots speak for themselves.
g4Nk said:
Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
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Numbers aren't everything. People with the Snapdragon are having issues playing videos that are 1080p and above. Video stops playing but sound still happens on youtube. Same issue the LG V10 had and another phone.
gtg465x said:
Um, the 820 CPU beats the 8890 in single core performance. And battery life with the 820... well, I'll let my screenshots speak for themselves.
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Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
johanbiff said:
Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
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But it does. The only thing it slightly loses in is Integer performance. But it makes up for this in floating point superiority. Don't forget, the exynos in single threaded stuff runs at 2.6ghz, thats about 18% faster than the snapdragons 2.15ghz. If we Normalized the clocks, theres really no question which ones superior in single core performance. As for OPs question, no, unless you are a total bada** it would almost certainly not work. You would likely need to replace the whole board, not just the CPU as it's all one big interconnected system. Especially on the sd820, due to it using the symphony system manager to dynamically offload tasks to the DSP and other blocks to save power and improve performance. On top of all that you would also have weird issues with the kernel being for exynos version for instance and have to get that fixed.
Tldr. Plz don't...
IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
fkofilee said:
IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
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The reason Samsung didn't use the 810 last year was because it was an inferior SOC. It had a lot of heat issues. Up to that point qcom had been great. Also we have no twrp or kernels yet on SD because Samsung has only released exynos source so far for some reason -_-
consider samsung had a year with the 14nm processor, I would love to get my hand on an exynos processor. I have a feeling Samsung pay extra attention to their own processor than a snapdragon 820. Things like updates may come quicker too.
As Sammies Chip making process has grown (Yes Apple... Im looking at oyu) , its made Sammie a helluva ton'a muneh!
Seriously though, Samsung have done a good job with the last 2 gens of processors. S6 and Note 5 and the S7 8890 are nuts!
As for the sourcecode, well when its created by Samsung etc its not so bad
Back to the OP. No you cannot change the processor. Besides if it goes wrong, Warranty is instantly void
fkofilee said:
IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
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It does but there is a diffrence. When the exynos win it does it with almost 40% in single core which IS noticeable ..the sd820 only wins with up to 10% which is not ( talking about single core here). Hopefully anandtech will sink there teeth in to both socs soon and we will get a clear answer. As for boost clocks... the sd820 have a GPU boost which helps it in bursty situations but can't sustain it for long, that's the extra score in 3D for ya. But will see as time goes by..I have a feeling the exynos is the better overall
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Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
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I still had almost 20% battery left in those screenshots.
Either way, I don't think you can say the Exynos is superior. It's better at some things, sure, but the 820 also beats the Exynos in several areas. I have used both extensively and in real world usage, you can't tell a difference. Only benchmarks show the difference.
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It does but there is a diffrence. When the exynos win it does it with almost 40% in single core which IS noticeable ..the sd820 only wins with up to 10% which is not ( talking about single core here). Hopefully anandtech will sink there teeth in to both socs soon and we will get a clear answer. As for boost clocks... the sd820 have a GPU boost which helps it in bursty situations but can't sustain it for long, that's the extra score in 3D for ya. But will see as time goes by..I have a feeling the exynos is the better overall
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The best win the exynos pulls off in single core is in AES with a 57% win over the SD 820. In the same category the 820 wins sha2 with about a 40% win. And the exynos is clocked almost 20% higher... The exynos 7420 Mali GPU also had a burst clock. It ran at 650mhz unless all cores weren't loaded it would boost up to 720mhz for bursty workloads. In floating point the snapdragon pretty much wins everything despite being at a significant clock disadvantage. If we under clocked the exynos to 2.1ghz it wouldn't even be close IMO. In fact the Integer wins may be largely lost when clocks are normalized.
Qwhy don't people to a trans Atlantic phone exchange. I'm sticking with the exception exynos for the battery. Still waiting for a decent screen protector and battery case though.

Snapdragon vs Exynos | Which one should I get?

Hello everyone
Im going to buy a Note 4 but Which one should I get?
Which one is better at; gaming, battery life and developer friendly? I really need to know becuase Im keeping it for at least one year.
And btw is there any news about android 7.0 for Note 4?
Thanks
Just noted the rules. Pls delete this thread or move it to q&a
Enynos hands down
CR4SH_eR said:
Hello everyone
Im going to buy a Note 4 but Which one should I get?
Which one is better at; gaming, battery life and developer friendly? I really need to know becuase Im keeping it for at least one year.
And btw is there any news about android 7.0 for Note 4?
Thanks
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tiguy99 said:
Enynos hands down
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Yeah, I'd recommend the Exynos variant too. As it much more stable than the Snapdragon variant.
DarkGuyver said:
Yeah, I'd recommend the Exynos variant too. As it much more stable than the Snapdragon variant.
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Once Exynos,forever Exynos :laugh:
I see many test on yt,and snapdragon is **** boot time,bench result itc is better on exynos(even SOT can ez go up to 6h-7h)
Jovan1997 said:
Once Exynos,forever Exynos :laugh:
I see many test on yt,and snapdragon is **** boot time,bench result itc is better on exynos(even SOT can ez go up to 6h-7h)
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It's not that the Snapdragon 805 doesn't perform as well as the Exynos 5433 SOC. They both are excellent performing SOCs. It's just that the Snapdragon 805 has a bad habit of overheating very easily, which is a common problem among Qualcomm's Snapdragon series of SOCs.
tiguy99 said:
Enynos hands down
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DarkGuyver said:
Yeah, I'd recommend the Exynos variant too. As it much more stable than the Snapdragon variant.
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Jovan1997 said:
Once Exynos,forever Exynos :laugh:
I see many test on yt,and snapdragon is **** boot time,bench result itc is better on exynos(even SOT can ez go up to 6h-7h)
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It's not that the Snapdragon 805 doesn't perform as well as the Exynos 5433 SOC. They both are excellent performing SOCs. It's just that the Snapdragon 805 has a bad habit of overheating very easily, which is a common problem among Qualcomm's Snapdragon series of SOCs.
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OK thanks guys but is real that adreno is better than mali gpu in gaming? Does the exynos lag with heavy games? And what about rom support? Do u think the exynos will ever get a stable nougat with working fingerprint and irblaster?
go snapdragon if you gonna treat the phone as a glorified psp.. Go Exynos if you want cpu power with economy.. cant get it all...
CR4SH_eR said:
OK thanks guys but is real that adreno is better than mali gpu in gaming? Does the exynos lag with heavy games? And what about rom support? Do u think the exynos will ever get a stable nougat with working fingerprint and irblaster?
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I've been happily using the Snapdragon 805 variant since launch week and it runs just fine. Battery is great, I get around 6.5h SOT if I do try push it (usually going to bed by the time it hits 4h).
Both variants are great, and you should have a similar experience on both on Android 6.0.1.
via Galaxy Note 4 +128GB MicroSDXC
CR4SH_eR said:
OK thanks guys but is real that adreno is better than mali gpu in gaming? Does the exynos lag with heavy games? And what about rom support? Do u think the exynos will ever get a stable nougat with working fingerprint and irblaster?
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Exynos plays games like iPhone. See YouTube videos of Real Racing 3 & Nova 3 on N4 Exynos, N4 Spapdragon and then iPhone 6s.
That'll show you the difference right there.
My Exynos is super smooth and does not overheat ever + gets 7 hour screen on time
What more can you ask for?
CR4SH_eR said:
OK thanks guys but is real that adreno is better than mali gpu in gaming? Does the exynos lag with heavy games? And what about rom support? Do u think the exynos will ever get a stable nougat with working fingerprint and irblaster?
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The Mali T-760MP6 is a excellent GPU and will run any game you throw it's way like nothing. While the Adreno maybe slightly better. The Mali T-760 isn't a slouch in the gaming department either. I use my N910C for gaming all the time and I can literally play any game I want on it. Even République, which is quite a heavy 3D intensive game and my N910C runs it like it was nothing!
tiguy99 said:
Exynos plays games like iPhone. See YouTube videos of Real Racing 3 & Nova 3 on N4 Exynos, N4 Spapdragon and then iPhone 6s.
That'll show you the difference right there.
My Exynos is super smooth and does not overheat ever + gets 7 hour screen on time
What more can you ask for?
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DarkGuyver said:
The Mali T-760MP6 is a excellent GPU and will run any game you throw it's way like nothing. While the Adreno maybe slightly better. The Mali T-760 isn't a slouch in the gaming department either. I use my N910C for gaming all the time and I can literally play any game I want on it. Even République, which is quite a heavy 3D intensive game and my N910C runs it like it was nothing!
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Wow thats sound awesome! What about rom support for the exynos?
CR4SH_eR said:
Wow thats sound awesome! What about rom support for the exynos?
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ROM Support seems good.
Check out the Exynos Development Section
Snapdragon for gaming, media, and vr. Exynos for multitasking and background processing. From what I've read, both are fairly comparable but exynos may have better chance of seeing nougat update since it's more widely used internationally.
Actually, I have used both of them.
The Exynos wins, at least in terms of a battery life (+30 min of SoT compared to the SnapDragon) and earbuds sound quality. Moreover, it heats up less than the Snap.
the n910c seems to be better in every aspect
Guys I had the snapdragon variant and I just got the exynos model now... Huge difference! The exynos hands down wins! By far better...
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Lol I have 2 phone right now i i say that exinos in way back after snapdragon. Snap is better in every way. More powerfull cpu, ram., all test win snapdragon
Actually if you care about performance, go with snapdragon, but if you use it as daily phone and you concern about battery life, heating problem then exynos. BTW, exynos on galaxy note 4 has 64 bit processor, which means, it is a newer version of processor!!

just buy it

I realy must say that i was surprised by this phone.
I got i cheap but i was amazed by the speed and the great camera.
My work phone is an galaxy s7, and i realy think this one gives better images, maybe not in verry low light but in those cases the s7 has alot of noise.
The phone is slippery as hell so buy a case asp ;l
I have had about of phones, iPhone, sony, nexus Samsung... But fore me this is the best one yet.
Tho i hate not having a app drawer, but i use nova launcher anyways..
Cheers
It's worth buying indeed
Its a awsome device
its okay nothing stellar
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its okay nothing stellar
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You're right, but looking at it's price, it is worth it
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You're right, but looking at it's price, it is worth it
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I agree for the price and the specs. The Honor 8 is a steal!
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I agree for the price and the specs. The Honor 8 is a steal!
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And tbh, oneplus 3 is better at price/value because of 3rd party support (skins, ROMs, cases...)
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And tbh, oneplus 3 is better at price/value because of 3rd party support (skins, ROMs, cases...)
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Yeah, but the OnePlus 3 runs on a SnapDragon 820 SOC. I've noticed that even before the whole SnapDragon 810 overheating problem, that Snapdragon SOCs had a bad habit of overheating pretty easily. So I tend to avoid them when I can.
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And tbh, oneplus 3 is better at price/value because of 3rd party support (skins, ROMs, cases...)
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But the oneplus 3 is a bit bigger. If I bought the honor8, it's mainly for his size (not too big, can fit in my pocket), and his price, and specs, and camera...
The oneplus seems to be a really good deal too, but it's a bit bigger, and a bit more expensive...
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But the oneplus 3 is a bit bigger. If I bought the honor8, it's mainly for his size (not too big, can fit in my pocket), and his price, and specs, and camera...
The oneplus seems to be a really good deal too, but it's a bit bigger, and a bit more expensive...
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Yes the 1+3 is bigger, but it's the same price as tge honor 8, the 3t is the more expensive
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Yeah, but the OnePlus 3 runs on a SnapDragon 820 SOC. I've noticed that even before the whole SnapDragon 810 overheating problem, that Snapdragon SOCs had a bad habit of overheating pretty easily. So I tend to avoid them when I can.
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The 820 don't any overheating issues like the 810 did, and I prefer the oneplus 3 over honor 8 only when it comes to ROM support
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The 820 don't any overheating issues like the 810 did, and I prefer the oneplus 3 over honor 8 only when it comes to ROM support
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While the SD820 doesn't suffer from the serious overheating issue of the SD810. It still overheats pretty easily, especially if you are gaming.
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While the SD820 doesn't suffer from the serious overheating issue of the SD810. It still overheats pretty easily, especially if you are gaming.
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Yup, but not that hot when you can hold it like sd810 devices did
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Yup, but not that hot when you can hold it like sd810 devices did
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Depends on what your device is made off? If it has a glass and metal construction, then it will get uncomfortably hot!
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Depends on what your device is made off? If it has a glass and metal construction, then it will get uncomfortably hot!
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The s7 have SD820 and it doesn't get hot (as my friend told me), but if the software isn't optimized well it can get uncomfortably hot
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While the SD820 doesn't suffer from the serious overheating issue of the SD810. It still overheats pretty easily, especially if you are gaming.
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Speaking of gaming. While Honor 8's SoC has very good CPU performance for common tasks, according to anandtech benchmarks, the GPU performance, which is used in gaming, trails the competition. For example, the SoC has only four GPU cores, while the Exynos version of Galaxy S7 has 12 similar GPU cores. Having said, the Honor 8 is still a very good value.
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The s7 have SD820 and it doesn't get hot (as my friend told me), but if the software isn't optimized well it can get uncomfortably hot
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It depends on how the person uses their mobile devices. If they don't use it for allot of high intensive tasks, like 3D intensive gaming or recording 4K videos. Then it won't get uncomfortably hot. But I have heard complaints from SGS7 SD820 variant users, saying that it does get uncomfortably hot when used.
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Speaking of gaming. While Honor 8's SoC has very good CPU performance for common tasks, according to anandtech benchmarks, the GPU performance, which is used in gaming, trails the competition. For example, the SoC has only four GPU cores, while the Exynos version of Galaxy S7 has 12 similar GPU cores. Having said, the Honor 8 is still a very good value.
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That is to be expected as you have already stated the Honor 8's GPU has less GPU cores than that of the Exynos variant of the SGS7. However in real time usage, you won't notice the performance difference between the Honor 8 and the Exynos variant of the SGS7.
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Speaking of gaming. While Honor 8's SoC has very good CPU performance for common tasks, according to anandtech benchmarks, the GPU performance, which is used in gaming, trails the competition. For example, the SoC has only four GPU cores, while the Exynos version of Galaxy S7 has 12 similar GPU cores. Having said, the Honor 8 is still a very good value.
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The Gpu on honor 8 is unfortunately weak, even last gen snapdragon SoC have better GPUs
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The Gpu on honor 8 is unfortunately weak, even last gen snapdragon SoC have better GPUs
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this is the only reason I'm skeptical of buying Honor 8 atm.. I game a lot and I need a future-proof gpu for at least 2 years.. and after watching Real racing 3 gaming footage I can see the weakness of this Mali gpu..
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The Gpu on honor 8 is unfortunately weak, even last gen snapdragon SoC have better GPUs
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That is to be expected as the Mali-T880 MP4 GPU used in the Honor 8 only has 4 cores, while other devices have more GPU cores than the Honor 8. Despite that the Honor 8 does handle gaming pretty well.
I'm ok with the GPU's performance now
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this is the only reason I'm skeptical of buying Honor 8 atm.. I game a lot and I need a future-proof gpu for at least 2 years.. and after watching Real racing 3 gaming footage I can see the weakness of this Mali gpu..
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It can handle this gen games, but I doubt it will with next gen games

New to Honor 8

Hello guys,
I just bought Honor 8 yesterday. I'm not that much satisfied with the Mali T880 MP4 GPU on this device. The Antutu score is just 19k+. Is this the lack of GPU optimisation? This GPU is quite powerful I guess.
real life experience > any score
trainpunk said:
real life experience > any score
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It's not able to handle Modern Combat 5 in optimal settings.
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It's not able to handle Modern Combat 5 in optimal settings.
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works fine here whether i have smart power plan on or perfomance no stutter or lag
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works fine here whether i have smart power plan on or perfomance no stutter or lag
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I use smart power plan. But game is full of when there are 3-4 persons on screen
How to improve sound output on honor 8???
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What's the difference between FRD- L02/04/09?
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What's the difference between FRD- L02/04/09?
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If I recall the FRD-L09 has a single sim for North America, the FRD-L04 has a dual sim with the option of running a micro-SD in the 2nd sim slot and FRD-L02 is a single sim for India.
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What's the difference between FRD- L02/04/09?
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FRD-L04 is the US version
FRD-L09 is the european version
FRD-L02 is the indian version
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FRD-L04 is the US version
FRD-L09 is the european version
FRD-L02 is the indian version
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Ah ok thanks. So basically all specs inside are the same I guess.
Alok Bajaj said:
Ah ok thanks. So basically all specs inside are the same I guess.
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Yes, difference only in modems (LTE bands)
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Yes, difference only in modems (LTE bands)
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Okay cool. Do you guys get charger that has quick charge? Mine is output: 5v 2Amps.
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Okay cool. Do you guys get charger that has quick charge? Mine is output: 5v 2Amps.
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Yup, same as you
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It's not able to handle Modern Combat 5 in optimal settings.
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I played Modern Combat 5, it's working very well. The only game that have a bit of lag it's Gangester Vegas on max graphics. Btw, it's well known that this gpu isn't that good at gaming.
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I played Modern Combat 5, it's working very well. The only game that have a bit of lag it's Gangester Vegas on max graphics. Btw, it's well known that this gpu isn't that good at gaming.
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You're right, adreno GPU is way much powerful.
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You're right, adreno GPU is way much powerful.
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Yes,but in my oppinion the Kirin 950 is a killer, faster than Snap 820/821 and even than Kirin 955/960. So for me it's good enough,im not going to do gaming on a phone
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Yes,but in my oppinion the Kirin 950 is a killer, faster than Snap 820/821 and even than Kirin 955/960. So for me it's good enough,im not going to do gaming on a phone
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Yes you're right. Modern Combat loads faster than in my friend's phone which is one plus 3. The GPU got left behind tho.
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Yes,but in my oppinion the Kirin 950 is a killer, faster than Snap 820/821 and even than Kirin 955/960. So for me it's good enough,im not going to do gaming on a phone
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That's right, the only thing that I don't understand is how on earth a 1 year old SoC is faster than current gen SoC from the same company?!
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That's right, the only thing that I don't understand is how on earth a 1 year old SoC is faster than current gen SoC from the same company?!
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I dont know the answer to this question but what i know is that no one can make faster SoC, this phone is already on RedBull,all the smartphones in this days are on steroids. They are opening apps in no time, so it's impossible to make something faster. Only if they make a phone who open the apps before you press on them )
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I dont know the answer to this question but what i know is that no one can make faster SoC, this phone is already on RedBull,all the smartphones in this days are on steroids. They are opening apps in no time, so it's impossible to make something faster. Only if they make a phone who open the apps before you press on them )
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Yup, you have a good point

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