I realy must say that i was surprised by this phone.
I got i cheap but i was amazed by the speed and the great camera.
My work phone is an galaxy s7, and i realy think this one gives better images, maybe not in verry low light but in those cases the s7 has alot of noise.
The phone is slippery as hell so buy a case asp ;l
I have had about of phones, iPhone, sony, nexus Samsung... But fore me this is the best one yet.
Tho i hate not having a app drawer, but i use nova launcher anyways..
Cheers
It's worth buying indeed
Its a awsome device
its okay nothing stellar
jkccl9 said:
its okay nothing stellar
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You're right, but looking at it's price, it is worth it
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You're right, but looking at it's price, it is worth it
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I agree for the price and the specs. The Honor 8 is a steal!
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I agree for the price and the specs. The Honor 8 is a steal!
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And tbh, oneplus 3 is better at price/value because of 3rd party support (skins, ROMs, cases...)
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And tbh, oneplus 3 is better at price/value because of 3rd party support (skins, ROMs, cases...)
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Yeah, but the OnePlus 3 runs on a SnapDragon 820 SOC. I've noticed that even before the whole SnapDragon 810 overheating problem, that Snapdragon SOCs had a bad habit of overheating pretty easily. So I tend to avoid them when I can.
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And tbh, oneplus 3 is better at price/value because of 3rd party support (skins, ROMs, cases...)
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But the oneplus 3 is a bit bigger. If I bought the honor8, it's mainly for his size (not too big, can fit in my pocket), and his price, and specs, and camera...
The oneplus seems to be a really good deal too, but it's a bit bigger, and a bit more expensive...
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But the oneplus 3 is a bit bigger. If I bought the honor8, it's mainly for his size (not too big, can fit in my pocket), and his price, and specs, and camera...
The oneplus seems to be a really good deal too, but it's a bit bigger, and a bit more expensive...
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Yes the 1+3 is bigger, but it's the same price as tge honor 8, the 3t is the more expensive
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Yeah, but the OnePlus 3 runs on a SnapDragon 820 SOC. I've noticed that even before the whole SnapDragon 810 overheating problem, that Snapdragon SOCs had a bad habit of overheating pretty easily. So I tend to avoid them when I can.
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The 820 don't any overheating issues like the 810 did, and I prefer the oneplus 3 over honor 8 only when it comes to ROM support
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The 820 don't any overheating issues like the 810 did, and I prefer the oneplus 3 over honor 8 only when it comes to ROM support
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While the SD820 doesn't suffer from the serious overheating issue of the SD810. It still overheats pretty easily, especially if you are gaming.
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While the SD820 doesn't suffer from the serious overheating issue of the SD810. It still overheats pretty easily, especially if you are gaming.
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Yup, but not that hot when you can hold it like sd810 devices did
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Yup, but not that hot when you can hold it like sd810 devices did
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Depends on what your device is made off? If it has a glass and metal construction, then it will get uncomfortably hot!
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Depends on what your device is made off? If it has a glass and metal construction, then it will get uncomfortably hot!
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The s7 have SD820 and it doesn't get hot (as my friend told me), but if the software isn't optimized well it can get uncomfortably hot
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While the SD820 doesn't suffer from the serious overheating issue of the SD810. It still overheats pretty easily, especially if you are gaming.
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Speaking of gaming. While Honor 8's SoC has very good CPU performance for common tasks, according to anandtech benchmarks, the GPU performance, which is used in gaming, trails the competition. For example, the SoC has only four GPU cores, while the Exynos version of Galaxy S7 has 12 similar GPU cores. Having said, the Honor 8 is still a very good value.
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The s7 have SD820 and it doesn't get hot (as my friend told me), but if the software isn't optimized well it can get uncomfortably hot
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It depends on how the person uses their mobile devices. If they don't use it for allot of high intensive tasks, like 3D intensive gaming or recording 4K videos. Then it won't get uncomfortably hot. But I have heard complaints from SGS7 SD820 variant users, saying that it does get uncomfortably hot when used.
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Speaking of gaming. While Honor 8's SoC has very good CPU performance for common tasks, according to anandtech benchmarks, the GPU performance, which is used in gaming, trails the competition. For example, the SoC has only four GPU cores, while the Exynos version of Galaxy S7 has 12 similar GPU cores. Having said, the Honor 8 is still a very good value.
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That is to be expected as you have already stated the Honor 8's GPU has less GPU cores than that of the Exynos variant of the SGS7. However in real time usage, you won't notice the performance difference between the Honor 8 and the Exynos variant of the SGS7.
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Speaking of gaming. While Honor 8's SoC has very good CPU performance for common tasks, according to anandtech benchmarks, the GPU performance, which is used in gaming, trails the competition. For example, the SoC has only four GPU cores, while the Exynos version of Galaxy S7 has 12 similar GPU cores. Having said, the Honor 8 is still a very good value.
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The Gpu on honor 8 is unfortunately weak, even last gen snapdragon SoC have better GPUs
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The Gpu on honor 8 is unfortunately weak, even last gen snapdragon SoC have better GPUs
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this is the only reason I'm skeptical of buying Honor 8 atm.. I game a lot and I need a future-proof gpu for at least 2 years.. and after watching Real racing 3 gaming footage I can see the weakness of this Mali gpu..
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The Gpu on honor 8 is unfortunately weak, even last gen snapdragon SoC have better GPUs
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That is to be expected as the Mali-T880 MP4 GPU used in the Honor 8 only has 4 cores, while other devices have more GPU cores than the Honor 8. Despite that the Honor 8 does handle gaming pretty well.
I'm ok with the GPU's performance now
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this is the only reason I'm skeptical of buying Honor 8 atm.. I game a lot and I need a future-proof gpu for at least 2 years.. and after watching Real racing 3 gaming footage I can see the weakness of this Mali gpu..
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It can handle this gen games, but I doubt it will with next gen games
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I want a Exynos version of note 4, snapdragon 805 was kind of a disappointment.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unlocked-NE...1446740372?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item1c46ca3194
This is on eBay right now, should I get it?
Questions:
1, Will there be a English option?
2, Will the phone be any different from the USA version?
3, If Android L come out, can I update it directly from the phone, or I have to do it manually?
4, Would I get 4g on Simple Mobile?(Simple Mobile is basically like T-mobile, they use T-mobile tower)
5, Do you recommend buying a Korean version?
Why is snapdragon disappointing?
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Why is snapdragon disappointing?
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Was hoping for a 808 or 810.
Snapdragon 805 is disappointing? Really? Exynos is better?
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Snapdragon 805 is disappointing? Really? Exynos is better?
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Well, is octa-core and 64 bit.
Saw a benchmark test between those two, exynos score a little higher.
If you were me, and price don't better.
Would you get snapdragon or exynos?
Kenny243 said:
Well, is octa-core and 64 bit.
Saw a benchmark test between those two, exynos score a little higher.
If you were me, and price don't better.
Would you get snapdragon or exynos?
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It's really never octal-core or 64bit. It mostly runs in quad core "mode" and is never in 64bit. Yes, it's capable of 64bit, but think of it like installing the 32bit version of windows on a 64bit machine. It's useless. Benchmarks don't matter. The exynos version is optimized for benchmarks, so it scores high in them, but is actually slower in real world use. Get the snapdragon.
From the benchmarks I saw, some of the exynos tests come up slower than Note3, some are faster than snapdragon note4, but IMO the biggest advantage could be 64 bit mode on Exynos. On the other hand who knows how is this 64bit Android going to work and when? Also make sure that radio is compatible with frequncies used in your area, what good is the phone if you get stuck on edge or have trouble making calls because half of the frequencies are missing? When I bought galaxy s3 couple years ago, it supposed to have LTE, but later it came out it didn't, there might be some similar surprises with Note 4 in the future as well.
Humm
Do you know the most reliable website to buy a unlocked Galaxy Note 4?
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Was hoping for a 808 or 810.
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Such dumb replies. The S805 is great already.
Kitkat is not 64bit capable so its not using this feature now. Android L will be.
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It's really never octal-core or 64bit. It mostly runs in quad core "mode" and is never in 64bit. Yes, it's capable of 64bit, but think of it like installing the 32bit version of windows on a 64bit machine. It's useless. Benchmarks don't matter. The exynos version is optimized for benchmarks, so it scores high in them, but is actually slower in real world use. Get the snapdragon.
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Exynos version optimized for benchmarks ??? XDD
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Exynos version optimized for benchmarks ??? XDD
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Yes..it is. Notice how the benchmarks are always insanely high but the performance is slightly slower?
aooga said:
Yes..it is. Notice how the benchmarks are always insanely high but the performance is slightly slower?
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First of all, You shouldn't tell opinions as True Statements...
Have you ever had any phone to compare by yourself ???
Samsung sttoped "cheating" in benchmarks since the Note 3, and it was mostly done in the QUALCOMM VERSION.
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First of all, You shouldn't tell opinions as True Statements...
Have you ever had any phone to compare by yourself ???
Samsung sttoped "cheating" in benchmarks since the Note 3, and it was mostly done in the QUALCOMM VERSION.
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I never said they cheated anything. Its just optimized for benchmarks so people think its faster than it is (runs all 8 cores at one, but never does that in real use). I have used it BTW. I have a galaxy tab with an exynos processor that lags a lot pushing a 1440p display...same as the note 4. I tried a snapdragon one out in best buy and it didn't lag at all.
It is a true statement. That's like saying a Ferrari being faster than a civic is an opinion.
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I never said they cheated anything. Its just optimized for benchmarks so people think its faster than it is (runs all 8 cores at one, but never does that in real use). I have used it BTW. I have a galaxy tab with an exynos processor that lags a lot pushing a 1440p display...same as the note 4. I tried a snapdragon one out in best buy and it didn't lag at all.
It is a true statement. That's like saying a Ferrari being faster than a civic is an opinion.
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It is not, Samsung doesn't change at all their CPU from the "stock" ARM desings. So it is a pure Cortex AX. They don't this kind of things, Anandtech searched for that.
The Exynos 5420 has a weaker GPU compared to Snapdragon 800mso it normal. But don't say that the Note 4 lags as well becausw your tablet lags...
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It is not, Samsung doesn't change at all their CPU from the "stock" ARM desings. So it is a pure Cortex AX. They don't this kind of things, Anandtech searched for that.
The Exynos 5420 has a weaker GPU compared to Snapdragon 800mso it normal. But don't say that the Note 4 lags as well becausw your tablet lags...
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I said it would be slower, not lag. This is based on 3 generations of Samsung processors before. If they finally changed it to actually be competitive, good for them.
All of my other points are fully valid though.
aooga said:
I said it would be slower, not lag. This is based on 3 generations of Samsung processors before. If they finally changed it to actually be competitive, good for them.
All of my other points are fully valid though.
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Well I had good speriences with Exynos SOCs.
And my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 with a Snapdragon 800 lags either.
A thread where all benchmarks are posted. Especially when comparing exynos vs SD 820
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7_and_s7_edge_benchmarked_the_exynos_flavor-news-16794.php
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Seems way of if you ask me.. should kill the z5... There is deff something wrong here!
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Seems way of if you ask me.. should kill the z5... There is deff something wrong here!
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Z5 is rendering in 1080p so there's no surprise it comes ahead in onscreen benchmarks. The mali-gpu is also not the strongest. Pretty sure the 820 will perform better.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G5-shakes-hands-with-Snapdragon-820-to-shatter-AnTuTu-records-benchmark-test-scores_id78636
LG G5 seems to be scoring almost 20k higher than the exynos 8890-equipped S7. S820 looks to be the better SoC by far at this point.
https://youtu.be/qMJ2x6POZak
128k there.i guess its the exynos
Anyway not enough to surpass the iphone
http://www.antutu.com/en/view.shtml?id=8184
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https://youtu.be/qMJ2x6POZak
128k there.i guess its the exynos
Anyway not enough to surpass the iphone
http://www.antutu.com/en/view.shtml?id=8184
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Seriously ? Do you even know how ios and android operate ?
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To sum things up: the Snapdragon 820 sports a better GPU, the Exynos 8890 sports a better CPU and a better DAC (Qualcomm DACs just haven't got the best of reputations, while the Exynos usually sport a decent Wolfson DAC), Qualcomm SOCs however usually sport a better baseband/radio than the competition.
I would say, in daily usages, the performances should be negligible, the real impact between both should be battery life related, an early preview done on the Exynos 8890 version claims a 12hrs battery life at maximum brightness on the S7 (not the S7 Edge), I guess we will see how it goes when more reviews come in.
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To sum things up: the Snapdragon 820 sports a better GPU, the Exynos 8890 sports a better CPU and a better DAC (Qualcomm DACs just haven't got the best of reputations, while the Exynos usually sport a decent Wolfson DAC), Qualcomm SOCs however usually sport a better baseband/radio than the competition.
I would say, in daily usages, the performances should be negligible, the real impact between both should be battery life related, an early preview done on the Exynos 8890 version claims a 12hrs battery life at maximum brightness on the S7 (not the S7 Edge), I guess we will see how it goes when more reviews come in.
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No Wolfson this time. It seems Samsung is using an in-house DAC.
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/02/22...ony-imx260-camera-sensor-in-house-audio-chip/
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skivnit said:
Seriously ? Do you even know how ios and android operate ?
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Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
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Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
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No you dont get it. Android uses multi cores to the fullest thats why multi core performance is the thing to look at, i suggest u read a piece on the subject on Anandtech
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another benchmark between sd 820 and 8890:
www.anandtech.com/show/10075/early-exynos-8890-impressions
i hope the 4 core difference between the two doesn't mean worse performance on the sd 820 variant. Also if you in the EU you will -apparently- be getting the exynos variant :crying:
i also read somewhere that said that the sd 820 had 2x custom (kyro) a-72 cores and 2x custom (kyro) a-53 cores and not 4x cutom (kyro) a-72 cores, hope its not true.
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Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
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Quoted from the comments of the article at AnandTech linked above:
It seems perfectly competitive in the graphics benchmarks, and comparing JavaScript benchmarks across different hardware, OS, and browser configurations is useless. To say Apple's Safari team "aggressively optimizes" for Octane and Kraken would be an understatement. Plus we're talking about simple benchmarks that can barely make any use of a second processor core, so of course they make the A9's dual-core CPU design look good next to more parallel competitors. Run something like Geekbench MT or the 3DMark physics test and watch A9 lose out to even Exynos 7420 or SD 810.
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another benchmark between sd 820 and 8890:
www.anandtech.com/show/10075/early-exynos-8890-impressions
i hope the 4 core difference between the two doesn't mean worse performance on the sd 820 variant. Also if you in the EU you will -apparently- be getting the exynos variant :crying:
i also read somewhere that said that the sd 820 had 2x custom (kyro) a-72 cores and 2x custom (kyro) a-53 cores and not 4x cutom (kyro) a-72 cores, hope its not true.
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The s820 has two custom cores and two lower-clocked A53s. It really won't matter that it has two fewer larger cores, as more cores leads to more heat, and more heat to more throttling. Only in benchmarks will it be noticeable.
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The s820 has two custom cores and two lower-clocked A53s.
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Where did you find that the 2 lower clocked are indeed A53s? What I have read, SD820 has 2 high clocked 2.15GHz and 2 low clocked 1.59GHz "Kryo cores"? So those 2 downclocked Kryo cores should be A72 like power not A53?
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Where did you find that the 2 lower clocked are indeed A53s? What I have read, SD820 has 2 high clocked 2.15GHz and 2 low clocked 1.59GHz "Kryo cores"? So those 2 downclocked Kryo cores should be A72 like power not A53?
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Hmm not sure, but pretty sure they aren't the same cores as the faster ones, as that way they could just have clocked them higher, and have them downclock instead of having them at 1.59Ghz all the time.
GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
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GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
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Ouch i think for sd820 we have to wait a bit since its us and China only
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GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
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Says the test ran for 220 minutes. EDIT: Okey that was the results of the battery-test. But still where did you get 10 minutes from? If you look at the graphs you can clearly see that it dips only once to 1400 and that was at about the 1200 second mark (20 minutes).
http://www.talkandroid.com/286767-vivo-xplay-5-gets-benchmarked-on-antutu/#more-286767
Vivo Xplay 5 scored around 160k on Antutu and that is with the Snapdragon 820. Think Samsung should have stuck with Qualcomm for all regions this time around. Wish we could get the sd-version here in Europe as well.
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http://www.talkandroid.com/286767-vivo-xplay-5-gets-benchmarked-on-antutu/#more-286767
Vivo Xplay 5 scored around 160k on Antutu and that is with the Snapdragon 820. Think Samsung should have stuck with Qualcomm for all regions this time around. Wish we could get the sd-version here in Europe as well.
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Its probably fake as most of the score comes from GPU which is impossible and then theres 1080p vs qhd screen question
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Throttling looks much better compared to 7420.
They have made GPU wider and lower frequency, also better manufacturin process. Bound to get better compared to 7420.
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Its probably fake as most of the score comes from GPU which is impossible and then theres 1080p vs qhd screen question
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Yes, in latest version of Antutu it gives more priority to onscreen numbers and single core performance. That's why iPhones are at top of chain in Antutu
Hi,
as the title says, is it possible to buy the exynos version of galaxy s7 edge, but then change the CPU later to a snapdragon 820?
If it is possible to change the CPU / GPU where would i be able to find it as a sparepart?
Thanks in advance.
Eaglesix said:
Hi,
as the title says, is it possible to buy the exynos version of galaxy s7 edge, but then change the CPU later to a snapdragon 820?
If it is possible to change the CPU / GPU where would i be able to find it as a sparepart?
Thanks in advance.
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Not possible. You'd be better off just buying a Snapdragon variant but I have no idea why you would want to do that when the general consensus is the exynos version is slightly better.
what he said^^
Surely this is not a serious question. You intend to desolder the existing cpu?
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Not possible. You'd be better off just buying a Snapdragon variant but I have no idea why you would want to do that when the general consensus is the exynos version is slightly better.
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Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
Having some experience with PCB and electronics production, no it would not be possible to outright swap the cpu.
But maybe if you are good at tinkering you could buy a motherboard off of a broken device and swap that?
I do not have a lot of experience with electronics modification so i guess my only option is to buy the Snapdragon variant from another country.
In this context does anyone know of any verified phone sellers on the asian market (where the snapdragon variant currently is available) that has a webshop with international delivery?
Also if i buy the phone from asia will i be able to use it with a telephone subscription in Europe or is there some fundamental differences on the phone depending on where you buy it?
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Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
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Nope, the only thing sd820 is better than 8890 is GPU. In cpu 8890 kills the sd820 even on battery life.
johanbiff said:
Nope, the only thing sd820 is better than 8890 is GPU. In cpu 8890 kills the sd820 even on battery life.
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Um, the 820 CPU beats the 8890 in single core performance. And battery life with the 820... well, I'll let my screenshots speak for themselves.
g4Nk said:
Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
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Numbers aren't everything. People with the Snapdragon are having issues playing videos that are 1080p and above. Video stops playing but sound still happens on youtube. Same issue the LG V10 had and another phone.
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Um, the 820 CPU beats the 8890 in single core performance. And battery life with the 820... well, I'll let my screenshots speak for themselves.
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Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
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Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
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But it does. The only thing it slightly loses in is Integer performance. But it makes up for this in floating point superiority. Don't forget, the exynos in single threaded stuff runs at 2.6ghz, thats about 18% faster than the snapdragons 2.15ghz. If we Normalized the clocks, theres really no question which ones superior in single core performance. As for OPs question, no, unless you are a total bada** it would almost certainly not work. You would likely need to replace the whole board, not just the CPU as it's all one big interconnected system. Especially on the sd820, due to it using the symphony system manager to dynamically offload tasks to the DSP and other blocks to save power and improve performance. On top of all that you would also have weird issues with the kernel being for exynos version for instance and have to get that fixed.
Tldr. Plz don't...
IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
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IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
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The reason Samsung didn't use the 810 last year was because it was an inferior SOC. It had a lot of heat issues. Up to that point qcom had been great. Also we have no twrp or kernels yet on SD because Samsung has only released exynos source so far for some reason -_-
consider samsung had a year with the 14nm processor, I would love to get my hand on an exynos processor. I have a feeling Samsung pay extra attention to their own processor than a snapdragon 820. Things like updates may come quicker too.
As Sammies Chip making process has grown (Yes Apple... Im looking at oyu) , its made Sammie a helluva ton'a muneh!
Seriously though, Samsung have done a good job with the last 2 gens of processors. S6 and Note 5 and the S7 8890 are nuts!
As for the sourcecode, well when its created by Samsung etc its not so bad
Back to the OP. No you cannot change the processor. Besides if it goes wrong, Warranty is instantly void
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IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
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It does but there is a diffrence. When the exynos win it does it with almost 40% in single core which IS noticeable ..the sd820 only wins with up to 10% which is not ( talking about single core here). Hopefully anandtech will sink there teeth in to both socs soon and we will get a clear answer. As for boost clocks... the sd820 have a GPU boost which helps it in bursty situations but can't sustain it for long, that's the extra score in 3D for ya. But will see as time goes by..I have a feeling the exynos is the better overall
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Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
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I still had almost 20% battery left in those screenshots.
Either way, I don't think you can say the Exynos is superior. It's better at some things, sure, but the 820 also beats the Exynos in several areas. I have used both extensively and in real world usage, you can't tell a difference. Only benchmarks show the difference.
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It does but there is a diffrence. When the exynos win it does it with almost 40% in single core which IS noticeable ..the sd820 only wins with up to 10% which is not ( talking about single core here). Hopefully anandtech will sink there teeth in to both socs soon and we will get a clear answer. As for boost clocks... the sd820 have a GPU boost which helps it in bursty situations but can't sustain it for long, that's the extra score in 3D for ya. But will see as time goes by..I have a feeling the exynos is the better overall
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The best win the exynos pulls off in single core is in AES with a 57% win over the SD 820. In the same category the 820 wins sha2 with about a 40% win. And the exynos is clocked almost 20% higher... The exynos 7420 Mali GPU also had a burst clock. It ran at 650mhz unless all cores weren't loaded it would boost up to 720mhz for bursty workloads. In floating point the snapdragon pretty much wins everything despite being at a significant clock disadvantage. If we under clocked the exynos to 2.1ghz it wouldn't even be close IMO. In fact the Integer wins may be largely lost when clocks are normalized.
Qwhy don't people to a trans Atlantic phone exchange. I'm sticking with the exception exynos for the battery. Still waiting for a decent screen protector and battery case though.
Hello everyone
Im going to buy a Note 4 but Which one should I get?
Which one is better at; gaming, battery life and developer friendly? I really need to know becuase Im keeping it for at least one year.
And btw is there any news about android 7.0 for Note 4?
Thanks
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Enynos hands down
CR4SH_eR said:
Hello everyone
Im going to buy a Note 4 but Which one should I get?
Which one is better at; gaming, battery life and developer friendly? I really need to know becuase Im keeping it for at least one year.
And btw is there any news about android 7.0 for Note 4?
Thanks
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Enynos hands down
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Yeah, I'd recommend the Exynos variant too. As it much more stable than the Snapdragon variant.
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Yeah, I'd recommend the Exynos variant too. As it much more stable than the Snapdragon variant.
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Once Exynos,forever Exynos :laugh:
I see many test on yt,and snapdragon is **** boot time,bench result itc is better on exynos(even SOT can ez go up to 6h-7h)
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Once Exynos,forever Exynos :laugh:
I see many test on yt,and snapdragon is **** boot time,bench result itc is better on exynos(even SOT can ez go up to 6h-7h)
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It's not that the Snapdragon 805 doesn't perform as well as the Exynos 5433 SOC. They both are excellent performing SOCs. It's just that the Snapdragon 805 has a bad habit of overheating very easily, which is a common problem among Qualcomm's Snapdragon series of SOCs.
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Yeah, I'd recommend the Exynos variant too. As it much more stable than the Snapdragon variant.
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Once Exynos,forever Exynos :laugh:
I see many test on yt,and snapdragon is **** boot time,bench result itc is better on exynos(even SOT can ez go up to 6h-7h)
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It's not that the Snapdragon 805 doesn't perform as well as the Exynos 5433 SOC. They both are excellent performing SOCs. It's just that the Snapdragon 805 has a bad habit of overheating very easily, which is a common problem among Qualcomm's Snapdragon series of SOCs.
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OK thanks guys but is real that adreno is better than mali gpu in gaming? Does the exynos lag with heavy games? And what about rom support? Do u think the exynos will ever get a stable nougat with working fingerprint and irblaster?
go snapdragon if you gonna treat the phone as a glorified psp.. Go Exynos if you want cpu power with economy.. cant get it all...
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OK thanks guys but is real that adreno is better than mali gpu in gaming? Does the exynos lag with heavy games? And what about rom support? Do u think the exynos will ever get a stable nougat with working fingerprint and irblaster?
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I've been happily using the Snapdragon 805 variant since launch week and it runs just fine. Battery is great, I get around 6.5h SOT if I do try push it (usually going to bed by the time it hits 4h).
Both variants are great, and you should have a similar experience on both on Android 6.0.1.
via Galaxy Note 4 +128GB MicroSDXC
CR4SH_eR said:
OK thanks guys but is real that adreno is better than mali gpu in gaming? Does the exynos lag with heavy games? And what about rom support? Do u think the exynos will ever get a stable nougat with working fingerprint and irblaster?
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Exynos plays games like iPhone. See YouTube videos of Real Racing 3 & Nova 3 on N4 Exynos, N4 Spapdragon and then iPhone 6s.
That'll show you the difference right there.
My Exynos is super smooth and does not overheat ever + gets 7 hour screen on time
What more can you ask for?
CR4SH_eR said:
OK thanks guys but is real that adreno is better than mali gpu in gaming? Does the exynos lag with heavy games? And what about rom support? Do u think the exynos will ever get a stable nougat with working fingerprint and irblaster?
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The Mali T-760MP6 is a excellent GPU and will run any game you throw it's way like nothing. While the Adreno maybe slightly better. The Mali T-760 isn't a slouch in the gaming department either. I use my N910C for gaming all the time and I can literally play any game I want on it. Even République, which is quite a heavy 3D intensive game and my N910C runs it like it was nothing!
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Exynos plays games like iPhone. See YouTube videos of Real Racing 3 & Nova 3 on N4 Exynos, N4 Spapdragon and then iPhone 6s.
That'll show you the difference right there.
My Exynos is super smooth and does not overheat ever + gets 7 hour screen on time
What more can you ask for?
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The Mali T-760MP6 is a excellent GPU and will run any game you throw it's way like nothing. While the Adreno maybe slightly better. The Mali T-760 isn't a slouch in the gaming department either. I use my N910C for gaming all the time and I can literally play any game I want on it. Even République, which is quite a heavy 3D intensive game and my N910C runs it like it was nothing!
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Wow thats sound awesome! What about rom support for the exynos?
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Wow thats sound awesome! What about rom support for the exynos?
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ROM Support seems good.
Check out the Exynos Development Section
Snapdragon for gaming, media, and vr. Exynos for multitasking and background processing. From what I've read, both are fairly comparable but exynos may have better chance of seeing nougat update since it's more widely used internationally.
Actually, I have used both of them.
The Exynos wins, at least in terms of a battery life (+30 min of SoT compared to the SnapDragon) and earbuds sound quality. Moreover, it heats up less than the Snap.
the n910c seems to be better in every aspect
Guys I had the snapdragon variant and I just got the exynos model now... Huge difference! The exynos hands down wins! By far better...
Sent from my SM-N910C using XDA-Developers mobile app
Lol I have 2 phone right now i i say that exinos in way back after snapdragon. Snap is better in every way. More powerfull cpu, ram., all test win snapdragon
Actually if you care about performance, go with snapdragon, but if you use it as daily phone and you concern about battery life, heating problem then exynos. BTW, exynos on galaxy note 4 has 64 bit processor, which means, it is a newer version of processor!!
I wish this device had a better GPU. More likely a custom Mali T880 MP8 or MP12. This phone is what Huawei calls their flagship phone. Only GPU has let it down. Mali T880 MP4 can't just handle everything so smoothly in full HD.
they are slowly getting better
What we need is proper kernel sources so there can be a custom kernel built with GPU improvements, governors and overclock. I just wont count on that any time soon for this phone..
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What we need is proper kernel sources so there can be a custom kernel built with GPU improvements, governors and overclock. I just wont count on that any time soon for this phone..
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Overclocking just doesn't help much. All the GPU power is needed for gaming. Overclocking causes heating which throttles down CPU freqs. And over clocking really doesn't help much other than first 10-15 minutes.
My suggestion was just that they should have added more GPU clusters. This GPU is found in low budget devices.
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Overclocking just doesn't help much. All the GPU power is needed for gaming. Overclocking causes heating which throttles down CPU freqs. And over clocking really doesn't help much other than first 10-15 minutes.
My suggestion was just that they should have added more GPU clusters. This GPU is found in low budget devices.
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Sorry, but for real gaming get a PC and even there U could use a Emulator for Android games
i actually disagree with this. this mali quad cluster is on par, if not better than adreno 510 found in what is pretty much considered the best bang for the buck cpu out there, snap 650/2. not only is 650 a upper midrange/flasghsip material SoC, it performs generally quite well and runs everything. kirin beats it's gpu, or at least matches it, and wipes the floor with it when it comes to cpu power. sure, gpu is not 530 or mali mp12, but then again we paid a midrange price and got a flagship phone. it's a compromise. despite that, it still runs everything ok so its an acceptable gpu. not rly sure you'd see a huge difference between this gpu and mp12 on s7 since one on s7 has to push double the pixels, so real difference should be 50ish% tops. most gpu benches run the screen @ 1080P and sure, in that case it beats our cluster, but that's not s7's native resolution is it.
in the end, imo its worth it since the entire package simply performs great. i've had my share of phones, and this lil monster simply kills it, even without a custom rom. its just that well optimized.
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Sorry, but for real gaming get a PC and even there U could use a Emulator for Android games
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I have a PC and not all games work well with emulators. And it's completely a different experience. I can't put my pc in my pocket ?
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i actually disagree with this. this mali quad cluster is on par, if not better than adreno 510 found in what is pretty much considered the best bang for the buck cpu out there, snap 650/2. not only is 650 a upper midrange/flasghsip material SoC, it performs generally quite well and runs everything. kirin beats it's gpu, or at least matches it, and wipes the floor with it when it comes to cpu power. sure, gpu is not 530 or mali mp12, but then again we paid a midrange price and got a flagship phone. it's a compromise. despite that, it still runs everything ok so its an acceptable gpu. not rly sure you'd see a huge difference between this gpu and mp12 on s7 since one on s7 has to push double the pixels, so real difference should be 50ish% tops. most gpu benches run the screen @ 1080P and sure, in that case it beats our cluster, but that's not s7's native resolution is it.
in the end, imo its worth it since the entire package simply performs great. i've had my share of phones, and this lil monster simply kills it, even without a custom rom. its just that well optimized.
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This is not a flagship GPU. Chinese phone generally offer more at this price. LeEco Le2 has this same GPU and costs ~⅓ of this phone's price. Xiaomi MI5 has an adreno 530 and it costs lesser than this phone. I would say a custom MP8 MALI GPU could have taken this phone to a different class. And yeah benchmark scores doesn't make any sense to me. They have just show some score based on 2 mins of testing. We can't conclude real life use with benchmark scores
xiaomi / letv phones might offer better specs for price, in china or india. there are some major issues when buying those, especially for ppl in europe/US. chinese brands are hard to come by, and even if you buy them for cheap/order from china you're pretty much stuck with a phone and no warranty. shipping to china is usually not worth considering the price. if you actually find a retailer that will sell lets say mi5 and provide a 2yr warranty, phone tends to cost a lot more than honor, at least thats the case where I'm at (EU). not to mention you can get honor8 for cheap when signing a contract. good luck doing that with chinese brands.
this is not a rant about chinese brands (myb rant bout xiaomi cause their open source policy is crap), i still use my rn3p and its been mostly satisfying esp. with CM13. however its been less then a year and it already started behaving badly. quality & control simply isnt on par. it was cheap sure, but it dies fast too, and there is no way for me to repair it. it is what it is, a compromise. cheap and you risk it, lil more expensive, but at least you're safe.
oh and in regards to mi5, unless you buy that premium version, phone is actually quite disappointing. build quality is meh, performance might be decent, but miui8 performs worse than EMUI so day to day usage is kinda pain. wish they did smth with that crapware os they ship. debloating is first step
I agree to what you say, but I won't include Mali T880 MP4 to a flagship hardware.
well you could say it's not flagship compared to the likes of snap820/1 / exynos, but it's the best huawei has to offer. for 1080p its acceptable. people that dont game really wont be able to tell a difference, for rest it just works. if you really look at kirin SoC's, even the gpu in 960 isnt top of the line. sure it kinda manages to narrow the gap with mentioned SoC's, but new ones are around the corner and kirin will again be worse in gpu department. this is standard for huawei honestly. same goes for mtk tho, yet mtk is widely popular (sure cheap price is the main reason) despite pretty crappy gpu. goes to show most ppl dont really need that top of the line gpu on board.
if hauwei was smart, they could've simply avoided this issue by releasing complete source. well built custom rom would be smth that most enthusiast would prefer over maxed out gpu. guess this wont happen tho xD
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well you could say it's not flagship compared to the likes of snap820/1 / exynos, but it's the best huawei has to offer. for 1080p its acceptable. people that dont game really wont be able to tell a difference, for rest it just works. if you really look at kirin SoC's, even the gpu in 960 isnt top of the line. sure it kinda manages to narrow the gap with mentioned SoC's, but new ones are around the corner and kirin will again be worse in gpu department. this is standard for huawei honestly. same goes for mtk tho, yet mtk is widely popular (sure cheap price is the main reason) despite pretty crappy gpu. goes to show most ppl dont really need that top of the line gpu on board.
if hauwei was smart, they could've simply avoided this issue by releasing complete source. well built custom rom would be smth that most enthusiast would prefer over maxed out gpu. guess this wont happen tho xD
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Well Kirin 960 has a very good GPU. Far better than this one. But again it has only 8 clusters which is good as of now. The new smartphones which will be using Mali G71 will have 16 clusters I guess. Cause that GPU can be configured upto 32 clusters. And Mali G71 MP8 isn't bad at all. It's really powerful and it can keep most demanding games run smoothly more than a year or two. But Mali T880 MP4 can't, only vulkan can help a bit. And I heard vulkan is kinda outdated/broken here in Nougat update. That's a bad news.
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I wish this device had a better GPU. More likely a custom Mali T880 MP8 or MP12. This phone is what Huawei calls their flagship phone. Only GPU has let it down. Mali T880 MP4 can't just handle everything so smoothly in full HD.
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Let get this correct Huawei don't call this their flagship phone.
This is Honor flagship phone, which is a separate brand Huawei has been pushing for a few years now..
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Let get this correct Huawei don't call this their flagship phone.
This is Honor flagship phone, which is a separate brand Huawei has been pushing for a few years now..
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Okay. Whatever the brand is this is what they call their flagship phone. But it lacks some GPU power. I'm experiencing a very bad GPU performance on this phone. I've to enable ROG mode if I'm to play mc5 smoothly. And powering a HD display even my three year old tablet with Adreno 320 does a better job.
well, kirin 955 = 950 when it comes to gpu performance, so gpu debate stands for now ex flagship p9 which has pretty much same specs as honor8.
as far as performance goes 320 is deffo worse than mali880. in 99% cases adreno 510 is better than 320, so 880mp4 should be too. im guessing either bad optimizations from huawei or devs are the culprit.
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I have a PC and not all games work well with emulators. And it's completely a different experience. I can't put my pc in my pocket ?
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You can get a nividia shield cloned app and you can even Play gta5 on your Phone dont know whats your Problem. if you have LTE you can Stream every game to your Phone. By the way the real feeling of gaming is only on the PC
Sorry for being redundant, but this is not Huawei's flagship phone, it's a budget phone. If you want their flagship get the Mate 9. Or maybe the upcoming Honor V9. The 'Honor' brand to me is a (budget) offshoot similar to Oppo to OnePlus. It makes sense for them to use a word in their brand name that western people are actually able to pronounce.
If would help if EMUI5 has the 720p mode working, but currently it doesn't. I'm afraid to use Android ADB command to force it, because it most likely won't look correctly and sometimes soft brick phones that isn't running stock Android, which is a pain to setup the phone from scratch.
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You can nividia shield get a Clone app and you can even Play gta5 on your Phone dont know whats your Problem than if you have LTE you can Stream every game to your Phone. By the way the real feeling of gaming is only in the PC
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Nvidia shield isn't a phone ? I'd buy it if it's a phone.
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Nvidia shield isn't a phone ? I'd buy it if it's a phone.
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Yeah but you can get a App that simulates nividia shield on your phone sorry maybe i expressed myself wrong
So you can play on your phone like on shield
Oh it was weired english i edited the post sorry.
It was to early in the morning
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Yeah but you can get a App that simulates nividia shield on your phone sorry maybe i expressed myself wrong
So you can play on your phone like on shield
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There's something called liquid sky. But then I'll have sell my house paying the internet bills.