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How bright is it?

I've read reviews that claim:
- Not as bright as the Note 5
- Just as bright as the Note 5
- As dim as the Nexus 6 (last years)
- Dim, but bright when adaptive brightness turned off.
So, anyone know for sure? A cd/m2 measurement would be great. The brightness of the original Nexus 6 was a big disappointment.

hatcyl said:
I've read reviews that claim:
- Not as bright as the Note 5
- Just as bright as the Note 5
- As dim as the Nexus 6 (last years)
- Dim, but bright when adaptive brightness turned off.
So, anyone know for sure? A cd/m2 measurement would be great. The brightness of the original Nexus 6 was a big disappointment.
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Friends on what you consider dim/bright to be.
Majority say no problem in bright sun, so it's "bright" enough.

There is an app for the Nexus 6 to blast the screen real bright when outdoors. I have not tried it, but I've read ppl like it. If the P is not bright enough I'm sure an app will be available for cranking the brightness up.

356 nits ....but im hoping it can be more based on many of the (almost as bright as note 5)
Nexus 6 was 270.....so much broghter than last year, but much dimmer than note 5.
By Much i mean 30% more than last year but 30% less than note 5.....

I think it should be fine. Nexus 5 is 400 but I have never turned it above 75% even outdoors. 356 would be at the high end but I have no worries about it.
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Brightness seems to be pretty sad unfortunately :-/
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Google-Nexus-6P-Review_id4110
Another thing we have to point out is its poor visibility outdoors when the sun is present – it washes out tremendously to the point that it’s unusable unless we shield it. Achieving a maximum luminance of 356 nits, it’s not as potent as the Nexus 5X mark of 487 nits, and nowhere close to the blinding 593 nits reached by the iPhone 6s Plus.
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I heard you turn off adaptive brightness mode and the phone gets brighter, like it said above.

Wait this is less brighter than the LG G3.......and the LG G4 is the one I have and it's the darkest most uncomfortable handset to use with minimal sun.... wtf??? *cancels order* I'm just gonna wait for nexus I/O 2017 this is horrible... but I doesn't make sense why every reviewer says it's the brightest screen they've seen thus far....smh
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You have to take into account that brightness isn't the only thing that matter for readability under very high ambient luminosity.
Screen reflectivity, contrast and color saturation are as important as brightness. And the LG G4 (like most of the LCD) is very reflective, not even close to an AMOLED in contrast and can't achieve the same saturation that what is possible with an AMOLED panel.
In fact, if you go read a GSMArena review, you will see that under direct sunlight, the G4 isfar less readable than a Motorola Nexus 6...

Reflectivity etc is important, I agree. But I am hoping that the nits readings are with the standard adaptive brightness etc on. The mid 300s isn't as great as I'd like, and is around the overall average.
Nevertheless, the UK winter is coming and sunlight readability becomes a moot point!

I agree that 350nits is average at best.
But the biggest problem, IMO, is that the display on the 6P seems to be not as close to the glass as the latest Samsung devices. This will lead to an higher reflectivity.

Brightness
RidinNerdy said:
Wait this is less brighter than the LG G3.......and the LG G4 is the one I have and it's the darkest most uncomfortable handset to use with minimal sun.... wtf??? *cancels order* I'm just gonna wait for nexus I/O 2017 this is horrible... but I doesn't make sense why every reviewer says it's the brightest screen they've seen thus far....smh
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Thats a big problem IMO. The brightness level is pitiful. Why Google?
Anyone trying to defend the brightness is out of touch. The tests from a few posts
above is conclusive. I held off ordering to see if there were any things that would come up
in initial reviews. Battery life seems also to be hit and miss.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Nexus-6P-battery-life-test-score-average-in-active-use_id74853
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Very poor brightness
Just got the 6P. Don't like the brightness at all. Am coming from the G3 and it's really sad. The Galaxy S6 is awesome. I always keep the phone at max brightness. Damn the battery, I say. I thought initially that perhaps the adaptive brightness setting was enabled. But it's not.
On paper it's brighter than the Nexus 6. But looking at them side by side, I don't see it even remotely brighter.
I hope that it's not really a limitation in the hardware and can be increased with a software mod.

i just walked outside in california sun at 1:00pm. i can read texts just fine. might have hard time looking at dark images because well black is...not lit... but i rather have little dimmer screen to preserve battery life and plus less prone to burn-ins.

os2baba said:
Just got the 6P. Don't like the brightness at all. Am coming from the G3 and it's really sad. The Galaxy S6 is awesome. I always keep the phone at max brightness. Damn the battery, I say. I thought initially that perhaps the adaptive brightness setting was enabled. But it's not.
On paper it's brighter than the Nexus 6. But looking at them side by side, I don't see it even remotely brighter.
I hope that it's not really a limitation in the hardware and can be increased with a software mod.
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Well. That's sad to hear :/ I guess I'll stick with my $250 500+ cd/m2 Idol 3.

Color saturation & accuracy

If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the Huawei Mate 10's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Coming from iPhone 7+, it's inferior. Does not support wide colour gamut DCI-P3.

I have 3 phones right now. An S7 edge as my daily driver. A P10 plus, and the mate 10 pro.
The P10 has a somewhat inferior display than the other two, but it can reach very high brightness and color saturation levels (but not so accurate colors...). The mate 10 pro produces dimmer image even at max brightness, and struggles to generate a well saturated image. At least it has a kind of better color accuracy than the p10 in my opinion. Sharpness is not a problem. Overall: It is good enough.
Sadly, I can't say it has any better display, or near as good as the s7. S7 edge still a strong performer when it comes to display quality. (brightness and colors)

Perfectly happy with the brightness on my Mate 10 because i haven't come across need to use max brightness in real usage and the auto brightness works fine (with minor instances of getting auto dimmed more than required). However need to note that a when viewing the display at angle it gets dimmer.
Nothing to complain about regards to visibility under sunlight as well. In my view what matters at the end is if the user has a problem with brightness with respect to the persons real life usage rather than comparison with others phones.
In terms of color saturation, one should know even before buying the Mate 10 that the IPS display don't compare with oled on saturation. I put my Mate 10 in vivid mode and im happy with it, even when using side by side by older generation oled screen P9 plus. I also had hands on side by side with the Mate 10 pro at the store and obviously Mate 10 pro oled is more saturated but i was not in any sense been blown away by it or wanting it. Likely that the QHD display + big screen of Mate 10 has spoilt me that im feeling the Mate 10 pro display to be washed out, yellowish and less immersive. But then it would be the same case that when using the Mate 10 pro as stand alone for some time you adapt and don't find those issues a problem anymore.

warea said:
when using the Mate 10 pro as stand alone for some time you adapt and don't find those issues a problem anymore.
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Yeah, you are right. I am mostly okay with the mate 10 pro. Overall I am very impressed with the quality of the product.

lowphas said:
Yeah, you are right. I am mostly okay with the mate 10 pro. Overall I am very impressed with the quality of the product.
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One little flaw to mention. I have some clouding. At moderate to low brightness level, grey color is the worst. (screen shot was taken by another phone, so in real life it isn't that bad)
The problem is less prominent at higher brightness levels.
Anyone else have the same issue?

Clouding...help
hello to all..meme probe on my mate 10 pro (FRANCE) .. clouding on background ..gris .. blue and other I do not know what to do
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lowphas said:
Yeah, you are right. I am mostly okay with the mate 10 pro. Overall I am very impressed with the quality of the product.
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how do you go?,? .. if you only use the mate 10 pro for some time you forget these probemes ... it means that we have to forget that the mate 10 pro has serious worries and that we must not regret our purchase .... would you buy a new car with scratches on the bodywork ... too strong .... or I did not understand your answer
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lowphas said:
One little flaw to mention. I have some clouding. At moderate to low brightness level, grey color is the worst. (screen shot was taken by another phone, so in real life it isn't that bad)
The problem is less prominent at higher brightness levels.
Anyone else have the same issue?
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yes same problem on mate 10 pro FRANCE ... REGRETE ALMOST MY PURCHASE

kalsamia said:
hello to all..meme probe on my mate 10 pro (FRANCE) .. clouding on background ..gris .. blue and other I do not know what to do
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343/5000
how do you go?,? .. if you only use the mate 10 pro for some time you forget these probemes ... it means that we have to forget that the mate 10 pro has serious worries and that we must not regret our purchase .... would you buy a new car with scratches on the bodywork ... too strong .... or I did not understand your answer
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yes same problem on mate 10 pro FRANCE ... REGRETE ALMOST MY PURCHASE
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The lack of really vivid colors, and the somewhat dimmer display is not that big problem. You can get used to it.
The clouding is a bigger issue, but it is almost invisible on medium to high brightness levels on my unit. It looks this bad only on low/the lowest brightness levels. (I rarely use it on min setting.) Samsung phones have better displays, I am sure, but I can live with this. (usually by manually set a bit higher brightness level) But it is my opinion.

I've got the same green tint on lower brightness (30% and lower)
Did any of you guys exchange it and got a better screen with no green tint on grey screens?

No issues at all with my Mate 10 Pro. I just love it! No clouding! Colors are real lifelike. Don't like Samsungs candy displays

I got my replacement device today and it also had that clouding issue! Really pisses me off because one of my main use cases on my mobile devices is reading pocket articles in dark mode. This is where I could see the yellow clouding very clearly. The replacement also had a defective fingerprint scanner (did not work at all not even during setup).
Now I'm waiting for my third device, if that one still has clouding (even if it is slightly) then I'm going to switch to the XL2. At least it doesn't have clouding.
This is meant to be huaweis high end device, such issues are nogos for me. Even my much cheaper but beloved Moto Z Play doesn't have this issue.

I don't understand why people are looking for flaws. I understand that you don't wanna pay so much money and then have any but imo it's something that's there but that I won't notice. What I don't notice is close to non existent to me.
I had a S8+ before and had it for a week still after I bought the Huawei mate 10 pro. Since I am curious I kept testing the screen by watching the same videos on max brightness etc.
Yes the Samsung is slightly better especially red and blue (funnily I think the greens are more vibrant on the Huawei) and it gets brighter but for me it wasn't a big surprise.
The phone gets a dark black and decent grey when in normal usage on normal brightness. I don't notice my screen being washed out unless I look for it (manually turn brightness down and open chrome).
I never tumbled across this in normal usage so I don't give a f.
If you only use it phone in the dark on low brightness... Well then you should maybe consider selling it.

Im also not searching for flaws that don't affect me. But the low brightness thing does affect me in a major way as Pocket in dark mode looks totally ****ed up. Huge yellowish tint.
And I'm using pocket daily. Also this kind of clouding is not acceptable, if much cheaper devices manage to provide better displays. It's a matter of quality control which Huawei can change in an instance if they want to.
If the third device has the same issue I'm going to sell it or exchange.
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I don't understand why people are looking for flaws. I understand that you don't wanna pay so much money and then have any but imo it's something that's there but that I won't notice. What I don't notice is close to non existent to me.
I had a S8+ before and had it for a week still after I bought the Huawei mate 10 pro. Since I am curious I kept testing the screen by watching the same videos on max brightness etc.
Yes the Samsung is slightly better especially red and blue (funnily I think the greens are more vibrant on the Huawei) and it gets brighter but for me it wasn't a big surprise.
The phone gets a dark black and decent grey when in normal usage on normal brightness. I don't notice my screen being washed out unless I look for it (manually turn brightness down and open chrome).
I never tumbled across this in normal usage so I don't give a f.
If you only use it phone in the dark on low brightness... Well then you should maybe consider selling it.
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just checked my mate 10 pro for this issues since im very alergic to this kind of issues...and must say that i have none of them.. I ran color display app and display is perfect in every brightnes and color..back when i had galaxy s7 i remember that it had those gray stripes(lines) when u put brightnes to low value but on high values it cant be seen anymore...so i think those clouding issues are real and device should be sent back to waranty...let me tell u something i had 4 different xperia flagships and all of them got a white dots or anomalies after one year of usage (bad display construction?) so i always claimed waranty for that....since i pay 700*eur for a top end device it has to work like one and as long it has waranty ill claim it as mutch as i can.dont be fooled by todays manufacturer cuz they dont care about us.

I contacted Huawei about this, the guy in the live chat was very helpful. He said he never heard of that problem before (I believe him) and offered me to send pictures of the screen to a support email address... Never heard from them again. Thanks

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I contacted Huawei about this, the guy in the live chat was very helpful. He said he never heard of that problem before (I believe him) and offered me to send pictures of the screen to a support email address... Never heard from them again. Thanks
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Why would you even do that if your device hasn't got the issue?

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
Why would you even do that if your device hasn't got the issue?
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I have that issue, I just don't really care... But they told me I could get a replacement device. Having that confirmed I can wait for a year and ask for a replacement device. Fresh battery.

Hi! Is this on Mate 10 Pro? If that's the case, then I experience the same.
At minimum brightness and dark environment it is very noticeable. My problem though is on the upper part of the screen it is darker/reddish and on the lower part, it is lighter. I wonder if we can have this display changed in warranty.

Only issue I have noticed with the Mate 10 Pros is that they have a Redish timt to them specially near the top half of the screen I incrank the brightness always to Max then I don't see the Redish tint ..I have seen this on 4 different phones...I'm about done with my Mate 10 Pro us model crap updates.. Definitely not the smoothest running phone..Selling g mine now I just for to figure what to get next LOL..I'm kinda done with Hauwei for now...Plus I think the Stereo speakers sound like garbage an are not very loud..My old Mate nine wasnloud as hell.an sounded awesome...Now she is at the bottom of a Lake..lol

brightness is noticably higher on my samsung galaxy s7 edge to the Point where i was blinded at night when i moved from the mate 10 pro to the s7 edge, colors also seem better, i use a custom rom though and the colors on emui were awful Everything was so faded and washed out it's better with the new rom and a colder color temperature glowing is absolutely terrible though, i see a huge cloud of White around White Icons on black it ruins the image quality when i use a fully black ui.

Color saturation & accuracy

If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the Xiaomi Poco F1's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

if you came from a phone with 100% ntsc or an amoled you will be disapointed, the reds and greens are about 50% off in terms of accuracy the only accurate color are the blues.
the phone has 84% ntsc color accuracy only
i couldn't demo this phone before i bought it, i could have got a mi 8 for the same price with a samsung oled panel

You can tell this is where corners were cut. The color accuracy is mediocre, it leaves a bit to be desired. Reds are somewhat washed out, greens could be more refined, and whites have a blue-ish tone.

pingufanpoy said:
if you came from a phone with 100% ntsc or an amoled you will be disapointed, the reds and greens are about 50% off in terms of accuracy the only accurate color are the blues.
the phone has 84% ntsc color accuracy only
i couldn't demo this phone before i bought it, i could have got a mi 8 for the same price with a samsung oled panel
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Only if display matters more to you...

I used my old Motorola Moto G 1st gen to calibrate the screen but the Poco screen don't even come close to the Moto G screen. I think the Moto G 1st gen has one of the best IPS screen in terms of color accuracy even for todays standard.

hTC Produced some of the super-fine LCDs with their SuperLCD
here the below link might help you why it was better, until LTPS showed up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_LCD

My present color caliberation on Pixel Experience pie plus.
Enjoy.

On pixel experience keeping Blue at 97% while 100% Red and Green in colour calibration gives great colour viewing.

gaurav210190 said:
On pixel experience keeping Blue at 97% while 100% Red and Green in colour calibration gives great colour viewing.
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I wouldn't call it great, this tries to achieve an impossible task on a below average screen / display.
It somewhat tries to blnket the issue and fails miserably.

rajeshkoshti said:
My present color caliberation on Pixel Experience pie plus.
Enjoy.
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What's that app?

Valdamjong said:
What's that app?
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Not an app. Its an in-built feature available in most of the custom roms, its called "Live Display".
I am currently on Evo X even they have this feature.

Outdoor visibility (max brightness)

Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Huawei Mate 20's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I compared the Mate 20 Pro and Mate 20 screen, both in the same place and same time, with the screen of my LG G7 in the 3 minutes supermax brightness mode. Both huawei phones had the flash of my LG G7 directly pointed in the ambient/light sensor. I disagree with all the reviews I've seen. Everyone will the you the Mate 20 Pro has a "better" screen, but I doubt anyone has really compared them side by side outdoor. IMHO if you look for sunlight visibility, the Mate 20 and its RGBW screen is the one to get. The Mate 20 Pro screen was less bright than my G7, although it was beautiful and the color was very stable from every angle thanks to the AMOLED screen. The Mate 20 was indeed brighter than my LG G7 (remember I was in the in the 3 minutes 1000+ NITS mode), so I guess that must be one of the brightest screen ever made to date. I'm writing to inform anyone and to ask owners of the mate 20 to test the max brightness of their phones. Does it shut off after 3 minutes as my LG or is it usable for few hours outside? That's a very important factor to me, and I couldn't test the phones as much as I would as my time was limited. Thanks to anyone sharing their comments.

Clarity/resolution

The ASUS ZenFone 6 (2019) has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I'm really curious as to the screen quality. I realise its gonna be different from an AMOLED panel that I'm used to, but all the other specs are so appealing!!

cd993 said:
I'm really curious as to the screen quality. I realise its gonna be different from an AMOLED panel that I'm used to, but all the other specs are so appealing!!
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Asus zenfone 6 , Honor 20 pro , Oneplus 7 pro camera test side by side .
OnePlus 7 vs 7 Pro / Zenfone 6 / Pixel 3a XL / Mi 9 Battery Life DRAIN Test.
Between these two videos you should get a decent idea of the display compared to other led displays .
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I think the zenphone looks a shade darker than the other led display due to its ips

I can confirm that there is a noticeable difference to a AMOLED display (coming from the Lenovo P2) and a side by side comparison clearly shows a better contrast in the Lenovo. But I also have to say that I only noticed that after a couple of hours with the Asus when checking back on the Lenovo. The display of the Asus is good and also in the dark not too bright.

abprie said:
I can confirm that there is a noticeable difference to a AMOLED display (coming from the Lenovo P2) and a side by side comparison clearly shows a better contrast in the Lenovo. But I also have to say that I only noticed that after a couple of hours with the Asus when checking back on the Lenovo. The display of the Asus is good and also in the dark not too bright.
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Off topic but damn I loved that phone, really sad when I cracked the screen.

hi, i am using zenfone 6(2019) with latest update installed. the videos on the social media (twitter, fb, instagram) plays pixelated and in poor quality.
how can i fix this?
i think it's the same problem mentioned in android issuetracker: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/124593215

I'm having same problem. Did you find fix to that? I fear that we need to wait for update. Twitch video quality is poor too. @megamefta

Apparently the max brightness the phone can go is application dependent, in Chrome it's 600 nits and in photos or its 550 or something. Can we expect a mod or anything to make it even that is 600 across everything in the future?

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Apparently the max brightness the phone can go is application dependent, in Chrome it's 600 nits and in photos or its 550 or something. Can we expect a mod or anything to make it even that is 600 across everything in the future?
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Double post.

Does anyone actually own this phone here?
How is the display in the real world . ALOT of folks on youtube are saying its pretty dark . I want to get it and understand its not oled but I dont want a dark display .

Yes sir, i own it. [emoji23] From left to right- P30 Pro, Zenfone 6, P20 Pro, i was outside under the tree, max brightness.
In general: for me the display is very good, just needs to be a bit more brighter.
PS: unfortunately this picture was shot by Galaxy A5 2015 [emoji16]

I'm coming from a OnePlus 3 and haven't compared to other recent phones, but I'm impressed with this display. It can get bright enough, at least for my usage, and even though blacks aren't as black as an AMOLED display, they're still black and not what you see on some cheap displays. Is a <Samsung-flagship> display better? Yeah, but the price is also higher than the ZF6.
The only setting I had to change was the colour mode. The two pre-defined options are "wide color gamut" (used by default) and "standard", which is more like sRGB. This is completely personal preference, for me "standard" looks more what I'd expect to see, not super vibrant colours that almost look fake. Anyway, it can be changed so it's not really a problem.
I didn't use the "always on" feature on my OP3 in order to save battery, but I can see users that liked that feature missing it on this phone.