If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the Huawei Mate 10's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
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Coming from iPhone 7+, it's inferior. Does not support wide colour gamut DCI-P3.
I have 3 phones right now. An S7 edge as my daily driver. A P10 plus, and the mate 10 pro.
The P10 has a somewhat inferior display than the other two, but it can reach very high brightness and color saturation levels (but not so accurate colors...). The mate 10 pro produces dimmer image even at max brightness, and struggles to generate a well saturated image. At least it has a kind of better color accuracy than the p10 in my opinion. Sharpness is not a problem. Overall: It is good enough.
Sadly, I can't say it has any better display, or near as good as the s7. S7 edge still a strong performer when it comes to display quality. (brightness and colors)
Perfectly happy with the brightness on my Mate 10 because i haven't come across need to use max brightness in real usage and the auto brightness works fine (with minor instances of getting auto dimmed more than required). However need to note that a when viewing the display at angle it gets dimmer.
Nothing to complain about regards to visibility under sunlight as well. In my view what matters at the end is if the user has a problem with brightness with respect to the persons real life usage rather than comparison with others phones.
In terms of color saturation, one should know even before buying the Mate 10 that the IPS display don't compare with oled on saturation. I put my Mate 10 in vivid mode and im happy with it, even when using side by side by older generation oled screen P9 plus. I also had hands on side by side with the Mate 10 pro at the store and obviously Mate 10 pro oled is more saturated but i was not in any sense been blown away by it or wanting it. Likely that the QHD display + big screen of Mate 10 has spoilt me that im feeling the Mate 10 pro display to be washed out, yellowish and less immersive. But then it would be the same case that when using the Mate 10 pro as stand alone for some time you adapt and don't find those issues a problem anymore.
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when using the Mate 10 pro as stand alone for some time you adapt and don't find those issues a problem anymore.
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Yeah, you are right. I am mostly okay with the mate 10 pro. Overall I am very impressed with the quality of the product.
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Yeah, you are right. I am mostly okay with the mate 10 pro. Overall I am very impressed with the quality of the product.
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One little flaw to mention. I have some clouding. At moderate to low brightness level, grey color is the worst. (screen shot was taken by another phone, so in real life it isn't that bad)
The problem is less prominent at higher brightness levels.
Anyone else have the same issue?
Clouding...help
hello to all..meme probe on my mate 10 pro (FRANCE) .. clouding on background ..gris .. blue and other I do not know what to do
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Yeah, you are right. I am mostly okay with the mate 10 pro. Overall I am very impressed with the quality of the product.
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how do you go?,? .. if you only use the mate 10 pro for some time you forget these probemes ... it means that we have to forget that the mate 10 pro has serious worries and that we must not regret our purchase .... would you buy a new car with scratches on the bodywork ... too strong .... or I did not understand your answer
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lowphas said:
One little flaw to mention. I have some clouding. At moderate to low brightness level, grey color is the worst. (screen shot was taken by another phone, so in real life it isn't that bad)
The problem is less prominent at higher brightness levels.
Anyone else have the same issue?
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yes same problem on mate 10 pro FRANCE ... REGRETE ALMOST MY PURCHASE
kalsamia said:
hello to all..meme probe on my mate 10 pro (FRANCE) .. clouding on background ..gris .. blue and other I do not know what to do
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how do you go?,? .. if you only use the mate 10 pro for some time you forget these probemes ... it means that we have to forget that the mate 10 pro has serious worries and that we must not regret our purchase .... would you buy a new car with scratches on the bodywork ... too strong .... or I did not understand your answer
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yes same problem on mate 10 pro FRANCE ... REGRETE ALMOST MY PURCHASE
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The lack of really vivid colors, and the somewhat dimmer display is not that big problem. You can get used to it.
The clouding is a bigger issue, but it is almost invisible on medium to high brightness levels on my unit. It looks this bad only on low/the lowest brightness levels. (I rarely use it on min setting.) Samsung phones have better displays, I am sure, but I can live with this. (usually by manually set a bit higher brightness level) But it is my opinion.
I've got the same green tint on lower brightness (30% and lower)
Did any of you guys exchange it and got a better screen with no green tint on grey screens?
No issues at all with my Mate 10 Pro. I just love it! No clouding! Colors are real lifelike. Don't like Samsungs candy displays
I got my replacement device today and it also had that clouding issue! Really pisses me off because one of my main use cases on my mobile devices is reading pocket articles in dark mode. This is where I could see the yellow clouding very clearly. The replacement also had a defective fingerprint scanner (did not work at all not even during setup).
Now I'm waiting for my third device, if that one still has clouding (even if it is slightly) then I'm going to switch to the XL2. At least it doesn't have clouding.
This is meant to be huaweis high end device, such issues are nogos for me. Even my much cheaper but beloved Moto Z Play doesn't have this issue.
I don't understand why people are looking for flaws. I understand that you don't wanna pay so much money and then have any but imo it's something that's there but that I won't notice. What I don't notice is close to non existent to me.
I had a S8+ before and had it for a week still after I bought the Huawei mate 10 pro. Since I am curious I kept testing the screen by watching the same videos on max brightness etc.
Yes the Samsung is slightly better especially red and blue (funnily I think the greens are more vibrant on the Huawei) and it gets brighter but for me it wasn't a big surprise.
The phone gets a dark black and decent grey when in normal usage on normal brightness. I don't notice my screen being washed out unless I look for it (manually turn brightness down and open chrome).
I never tumbled across this in normal usage so I don't give a f.
If you only use it phone in the dark on low brightness... Well then you should maybe consider selling it.
Im also not searching for flaws that don't affect me. But the low brightness thing does affect me in a major way as Pocket in dark mode looks totally ****ed up. Huge yellowish tint.
And I'm using pocket daily. Also this kind of clouding is not acceptable, if much cheaper devices manage to provide better displays. It's a matter of quality control which Huawei can change in an instance if they want to.
If the third device has the same issue I'm going to sell it or exchange.
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I don't understand why people are looking for flaws. I understand that you don't wanna pay so much money and then have any but imo it's something that's there but that I won't notice. What I don't notice is close to non existent to me.
I had a S8+ before and had it for a week still after I bought the Huawei mate 10 pro. Since I am curious I kept testing the screen by watching the same videos on max brightness etc.
Yes the Samsung is slightly better especially red and blue (funnily I think the greens are more vibrant on the Huawei) and it gets brighter but for me it wasn't a big surprise.
The phone gets a dark black and decent grey when in normal usage on normal brightness. I don't notice my screen being washed out unless I look for it (manually turn brightness down and open chrome).
I never tumbled across this in normal usage so I don't give a f.
If you only use it phone in the dark on low brightness... Well then you should maybe consider selling it.
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just checked my mate 10 pro for this issues since im very alergic to this kind of issues...and must say that i have none of them.. I ran color display app and display is perfect in every brightnes and color..back when i had galaxy s7 i remember that it had those gray stripes(lines) when u put brightnes to low value but on high values it cant be seen anymore...so i think those clouding issues are real and device should be sent back to waranty...let me tell u something i had 4 different xperia flagships and all of them got a white dots or anomalies after one year of usage (bad display construction?) so i always claimed waranty for that....since i pay 700*eur for a top end device it has to work like one and as long it has waranty ill claim it as mutch as i can.dont be fooled by todays manufacturer cuz they dont care about us.
I contacted Huawei about this, the guy in the live chat was very helpful. He said he never heard of that problem before (I believe him) and offered me to send pictures of the screen to a support email address... Never heard from them again. Thanks
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I contacted Huawei about this, the guy in the live chat was very helpful. He said he never heard of that problem before (I believe him) and offered me to send pictures of the screen to a support email address... Never heard from them again. Thanks
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Why would you even do that if your device hasn't got the issue?
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Why would you even do that if your device hasn't got the issue?
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I have that issue, I just don't really care... But they told me I could get a replacement device. Having that confirmed I can wait for a year and ask for a replacement device. Fresh battery.
Hi! Is this on Mate 10 Pro? If that's the case, then I experience the same.
At minimum brightness and dark environment it is very noticeable. My problem though is on the upper part of the screen it is darker/reddish and on the lower part, it is lighter. I wonder if we can have this display changed in warranty.
Only issue I have noticed with the Mate 10 Pros is that they have a Redish timt to them specially near the top half of the screen I incrank the brightness always to Max then I don't see the Redish tint ..I have seen this on 4 different phones...I'm about done with my Mate 10 Pro us model crap updates.. Definitely not the smoothest running phone..Selling g mine now I just for to figure what to get next LOL..I'm kinda done with Hauwei for now...Plus I think the Stereo speakers sound like garbage an are not very loud..My old Mate nine wasnloud as hell.an sounded awesome...Now she is at the bottom of a Lake..lol
brightness is noticably higher on my samsung galaxy s7 edge to the Point where i was blinded at night when i moved from the mate 10 pro to the s7 edge, colors also seem better, i use a custom rom though and the colors on emui were awful Everything was so faded and washed out it's better with the new rom and a colder color temperature glowing is absolutely terrible though, i see a huge cloud of White around White Icons on black it ruins the image quality when i use a fully black ui.
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I've read reviews that claim:
- Not as bright as the Note 5
- Just as bright as the Note 5
- As dim as the Nexus 6 (last years)
- Dim, but bright when adaptive brightness turned off.
So, anyone know for sure? A cd/m2 measurement would be great. The brightness of the original Nexus 6 was a big disappointment.
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I've read reviews that claim:
- Not as bright as the Note 5
- Just as bright as the Note 5
- As dim as the Nexus 6 (last years)
- Dim, but bright when adaptive brightness turned off.
So, anyone know for sure? A cd/m2 measurement would be great. The brightness of the original Nexus 6 was a big disappointment.
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Friends on what you consider dim/bright to be.
Majority say no problem in bright sun, so it's "bright" enough.
There is an app for the Nexus 6 to blast the screen real bright when outdoors. I have not tried it, but I've read ppl like it. If the P is not bright enough I'm sure an app will be available for cranking the brightness up.
356 nits ....but im hoping it can be more based on many of the (almost as bright as note 5)
Nexus 6 was 270.....so much broghter than last year, but much dimmer than note 5.
By Much i mean 30% more than last year but 30% less than note 5.....
I think it should be fine. Nexus 5 is 400 but I have never turned it above 75% even outdoors. 356 would be at the high end but I have no worries about it.
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Brightness seems to be pretty sad unfortunately :-/
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Google-Nexus-6P-Review_id4110
Another thing we have to point out is its poor visibility outdoors when the sun is present – it washes out tremendously to the point that it’s unusable unless we shield it. Achieving a maximum luminance of 356 nits, it’s not as potent as the Nexus 5X mark of 487 nits, and nowhere close to the blinding 593 nits reached by the iPhone 6s Plus.
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I heard you turn off adaptive brightness mode and the phone gets brighter, like it said above.
Wait this is less brighter than the LG G3.......and the LG G4 is the one I have and it's the darkest most uncomfortable handset to use with minimal sun.... wtf??? *cancels order* I'm just gonna wait for nexus I/O 2017 this is horrible... but I doesn't make sense why every reviewer says it's the brightest screen they've seen thus far....smh
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You have to take into account that brightness isn't the only thing that matter for readability under very high ambient luminosity.
Screen reflectivity, contrast and color saturation are as important as brightness. And the LG G4 (like most of the LCD) is very reflective, not even close to an AMOLED in contrast and can't achieve the same saturation that what is possible with an AMOLED panel.
In fact, if you go read a GSMArena review, you will see that under direct sunlight, the G4 isfar less readable than a Motorola Nexus 6...
Reflectivity etc is important, I agree. But I am hoping that the nits readings are with the standard adaptive brightness etc on. The mid 300s isn't as great as I'd like, and is around the overall average.
Nevertheless, the UK winter is coming and sunlight readability becomes a moot point!
I agree that 350nits is average at best.
But the biggest problem, IMO, is that the display on the 6P seems to be not as close to the glass as the latest Samsung devices. This will lead to an higher reflectivity.
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Wait this is less brighter than the LG G3.......and the LG G4 is the one I have and it's the darkest most uncomfortable handset to use with minimal sun.... wtf??? *cancels order* I'm just gonna wait for nexus I/O 2017 this is horrible... but I doesn't make sense why every reviewer says it's the brightest screen they've seen thus far....smh
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Thats a big problem IMO. The brightness level is pitiful. Why Google?
Anyone trying to defend the brightness is out of touch. The tests from a few posts
above is conclusive. I held off ordering to see if there were any things that would come up
in initial reviews. Battery life seems also to be hit and miss.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Nexus-6P-battery-life-test-score-average-in-active-use_id74853
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Very poor brightness
Just got the 6P. Don't like the brightness at all. Am coming from the G3 and it's really sad. The Galaxy S6 is awesome. I always keep the phone at max brightness. Damn the battery, I say. I thought initially that perhaps the adaptive brightness setting was enabled. But it's not.
On paper it's brighter than the Nexus 6. But looking at them side by side, I don't see it even remotely brighter.
I hope that it's not really a limitation in the hardware and can be increased with a software mod.
i just walked outside in california sun at 1:00pm. i can read texts just fine. might have hard time looking at dark images because well black is...not lit... but i rather have little dimmer screen to preserve battery life and plus less prone to burn-ins.
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Just got the 6P. Don't like the brightness at all. Am coming from the G3 and it's really sad. The Galaxy S6 is awesome. I always keep the phone at max brightness. Damn the battery, I say. I thought initially that perhaps the adaptive brightness setting was enabled. But it's not.
On paper it's brighter than the Nexus 6. But looking at them side by side, I don't see it even remotely brighter.
I hope that it's not really a limitation in the hardware and can be increased with a software mod.
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Well. That's sad to hear :/ I guess I'll stick with my $250 500+ cd/m2 Idol 3.
The ASUS ZenFone 6 (2019) has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I'm really curious as to the screen quality. I realise its gonna be different from an AMOLED panel that I'm used to, but all the other specs are so appealing!!
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I'm really curious as to the screen quality. I realise its gonna be different from an AMOLED panel that I'm used to, but all the other specs are so appealing!!
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Asus zenfone 6 , Honor 20 pro , Oneplus 7 pro camera test side by side .
OnePlus 7 vs 7 Pro / Zenfone 6 / Pixel 3a XL / Mi 9 Battery Life DRAIN Test.
Between these two videos you should get a decent idea of the display compared to other led displays .
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I think the zenphone looks a shade darker than the other led display due to its ips
I can confirm that there is a noticeable difference to a AMOLED display (coming from the Lenovo P2) and a side by side comparison clearly shows a better contrast in the Lenovo. But I also have to say that I only noticed that after a couple of hours with the Asus when checking back on the Lenovo. The display of the Asus is good and also in the dark not too bright.
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I can confirm that there is a noticeable difference to a AMOLED display (coming from the Lenovo P2) and a side by side comparison clearly shows a better contrast in the Lenovo. But I also have to say that I only noticed that after a couple of hours with the Asus when checking back on the Lenovo. The display of the Asus is good and also in the dark not too bright.
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Off topic but damn I loved that phone, really sad when I cracked the screen.
hi, i am using zenfone 6(2019) with latest update installed. the videos on the social media (twitter, fb, instagram) plays pixelated and in poor quality.
how can i fix this?
i think it's the same problem mentioned in android issuetracker: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/124593215
I'm having same problem. Did you find fix to that? I fear that we need to wait for update. Twitch video quality is poor too. @megamefta
Apparently the max brightness the phone can go is application dependent, in Chrome it's 600 nits and in photos or its 550 or something. Can we expect a mod or anything to make it even that is 600 across everything in the future?
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Apparently the max brightness the phone can go is application dependent, in Chrome it's 600 nits and in photos or its 550 or something. Can we expect a mod or anything to make it even that is 600 across everything in the future?
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Double post.
Does anyone actually own this phone here?
How is the display in the real world . ALOT of folks on youtube are saying its pretty dark . I want to get it and understand its not oled but I dont want a dark display .
Yes sir, i own it. [emoji23] From left to right- P30 Pro, Zenfone 6, P20 Pro, i was outside under the tree, max brightness.
In general: for me the display is very good, just needs to be a bit more brighter.
PS: unfortunately this picture was shot by Galaxy A5 2015 [emoji16]
I'm coming from a OnePlus 3 and haven't compared to other recent phones, but I'm impressed with this display. It can get bright enough, at least for my usage, and even though blacks aren't as black as an AMOLED display, they're still black and not what you see on some cheap displays. Is a <Samsung-flagship> display better? Yeah, but the price is also higher than the ZF6.
The only setting I had to change was the colour mode. The two pre-defined options are "wide color gamut" (used by default) and "standard", which is more like sRGB. This is completely personal preference, for me "standard" looks more what I'd expect to see, not super vibrant colours that almost look fake. Anyway, it can be changed so it's not really a problem.
I didn't use the "always on" feature on my OP3 in order to save battery, but I can see users that liked that feature missing it on this phone.
Is the oled panel made by Samsung? K20 owners please type *#*#6484#*#* and show the display section screenshot. Also does it have hdr support and dc dimming?
Choosing display only tests the display by showing colors, no info on manufacturer. Any programs that will tell me if it supports HDR or DC dimming? I tried googling "HDR on mobile" and it only brought info like for example a youtube video named "Why HDR is useless on a mobile"
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Choosing display only tests the display by showing colors, no info on manufacturer. Any programs that will tell me if it supports HDR or DC dimming? I tried googling "HDR on mobile" and it only brought info like for example a youtube video named "Why HDR is useless on a mobile"
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Sorry, yes tapping the display section will take you to the color check, tap the Version Info(or something similar) which is usually at the top of the screen. Scroll down to get the ram and emmc and display version.
No useful information even when scrolled all the way down. Mainly serial/IMEI numbers.
I know earlier xiaomi phones had more info here, remember using it for my redmi note 3 pro to determine LCD panel.
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No useful information even when scrolled all the way down. Mainly serial/IMEI numbers.
I know earlier xiaomi phones had more info here, remember using it for my redmi note 3 pro to determine LCD panel.
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What's above the barcode
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What's above the barcode
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Only IMEI amd serial numbers for the phone.
I checked some of my other xiaomi phones; poco f1: only shows the same limited info as Mi 9T. Redmi note 5 PRO: Shows full info including display info (Tianma TD4310).
So it is clear that xiaomi doesn't want us to see this information anymore.
Kimovil.com says it's the same panel as the pro, but heard one youtuber saying it's not
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Only IMEI amd serial numbers for the phone.
I checked some of my other xiaomi phones; poco f1: only shows the same limited info as Mi 9T. Redmi note 5 PRO: Shows full info including display info (Tianma TD4310).
So it is clear that xiaomi doesn't want us to see this information anymore.
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How is the display quality? On par with the Samsung amoleds? Need quality over branding.
Where are you from and how much did you pay?
The display is great, I can't see any quality difference comparing this to my Samsung A70. The calibration is slightly different "out of the box" tho, Mi 9T has slightly cold/blueish tint whites while A70 has warm yellowish whites. The Mi 9T feels slightly oversaturated (colors are slightly too intense, but this also makes image look like they have better contrast). The A70 has a more "true to life" calibration. Both have impressive max brightness, outdoor use is no problem.
I ordered the phone the exact day it was put up for sale on aliexpress, from the seller fantacy which I've had good experience with earlier as well. And sure enough the phone arrived just over two weeks later here in Norway. Paid $374 for the 128Gb, I have seen it as low as $335 for the 128Gb or $295 for the 64Gb after coupons on aliexpress during the midsummer sale. Ordering early never gives you the best price
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The display is great, I can't see any quality difference comparing this to my Samsung A70. The calibration is slightly different "out of the box" tho, Mi 9T has slightly cold/blueish tint whites while A70 has warm yellowish whites. The Mi 9T feels slightly oversaturated (colors are slightly too intense, but this also makes image look like they have better contrast). The A70 has a more "true to life" calibration. Both have impressive max brightness, outdoor use is no problem.
I ordered the phone the exact day it was put up for sale on aliexpress, from the seller fantacy which I've had good experience with earlier as well. And sure enough the phone arrived just over two weeks later here in Norway. Paid $374 for the 128Gb, I have seen it as low as $335 for the 128Gb or $295 for the 64Gb after coupons on aliexpress during the midsummer sale. Ordering early never gives you the best price
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You got dc dimming update? And please give a small feedback about the overall build quality.. Does it feel cheap anyways? And also the in hand feel (8.8mm thicc:-\).. And any other noticeable thing about this phone you didn't like or something?
Ps. What about the standard display mode. Offers better true to life colors right?
As for DC dimming I have no idea. I know what it is, but not how to check if I have it. Not noticed any eyestrain during low brightness so far, but not sure if I am able to notice the difference. (Not all people notice the PWM flicker).
The inhand feel is good, but this is no light phone! The most perfect phone I've used lately is Mi 9 SE, 6" screen and 155 grams is perfect size.
It has the best in-screen fingerprint reader I've used. (A70 one is soooo crappy, slow and 50% failure rate).
Nothing to dislike so far, maybe except the price is slightly high compared to chinese Redmi k20 pro which can be had for $387 with 128Gb storage now with SD855, but K20 pro misses LTE band 20 which I need.
I also have my concerns about the popup camera, how will dust/dirt affect it over time? But this is a concern for any phone with popup camera.
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As for DC dimming I have no idea. I know what it is, but not how to check if I have it. Not noticed any eyestrain during low brightness so far, but not sure if I am able to notice the difference. (Not all people notice the PWM flicker).
The inhand feel is good, but this is no light phone! The most perfect phone I've used lately is Mi 9 SE, 6" screen and 155 grams is perfect size.
It has the best in-screen fingerprint reader I've used. (A70 one is soooo crappy, slow and 50% failure rate).
Nothing to dislike so far, maybe except the price is slightly high compared to chinese Redmi k20 pro which can be had for $387 with 128Gb storage now with SD855, but K20 pro misses LTE band 20 which I need.
I also have my concerns about the popup camera, how will dust/dirt affect it over time? But this is a concern for any phone with popup camera.
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Can you do a Androbench memory benchmark and share the results?
Sure.
Androbench results.
On par with other phones with sd7xx and UFS 2.1 storage.
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_9t-review-1950.php
Says it is HDR10 capable samsung amoled display.
I've tried 4 or 5 apps, none of them tell you the screen manufacturer.
I have 2 9T and both have a yellow tinge. Display are not good here. Both devices therefore go back.
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I've tried 4 or 5 apps, none of them tell you the screen manufacturer.
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Try AIDA.. Gsmarena says that Aida reports the display to be a sammy one.
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I have 2 9T and both have a yellow tinge. Display are not good here. Both devices therefore go back.
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What about the display calibration. Mi gives you full freedom to calibrate the display tint color
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What about the display calibration. Mi gives you full freedom to calibrate the display tint color
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It has nothing to do with it.
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Try AIDA.. Gsmarena says that Aida reports the display to be a sammy one.
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Don't know why the say that, but AIDA doesn't.
I’ll kick off by saying that I am genuinely not trolling and I really want to like the Samsung S10 plus, I have the ceramic one and it is the nicest in-hand phone and a joy to pick up, it also has a slightly wider screen that I prefer as the P30 Pro can feel slightly narrow and cramped in comparison and I appreciate the higher resolution even if I only really notice it on text if I look really hard.* OneUI is ok these days and it does have a lot of features that I like built in too and it has a headphone jack!
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it is almost my perfect phone however, the thing is that I actually have a bit of love/hate relationship with it and I have come to think that the P30 Pro is maybe just a better all round phone even if it too has it’s annoyances, **YMMV but for me and here is why:
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Bluetooth audio - The P30 pro fully supports higher quality Bluetooth audio, the S10 does not.* The S10 defaults to ‘Best Effort’ you can select the ‘Balanced’ 660 kbps setting but you have to do this via developer settings EVERY TIME as it resets back to best effort. The highest quality 990 kbps option whilst selectable is choppy and not useable at all though.* On the P30 Pro, the highest quality option is available, works well and the LDAC settings have actually been put into the normal settings too and stick.* Win win!
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Camera - The P30 pro camera is significantly better than the S10 and the S10 plus camera is IMO very very disappointing, probably my biggest issue with the phone.* The smudged detail is there all the time although in good light you do have to pixel peep to see it but in medium to lower light the P30 pro just wipes the floor with it, no contest.* Also in medium to low light blurry images are common if there is even the slightest movement in the scene, looking at the exif the S10 always chooses a lower shutter speed than for the same scene, I am assuming this is to try keep the ISO as low as possible.* I think the main hardware is un-changed from the S9 and it shows, Samsung is just not as capable as Google with the computational stuff.** The camera on the P30 pro is just great and has the added cherry on the cake of the 5x zoom too.* Maybe Samsung will up it’s game with the S11/S20 but for me there is no doubt they have fallen behind by skimping on the hardware.
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Battery – The P30 pro is just better. The S10 is ok but still has that signature Samsung standby drain, they just love draining power when sitting there doing nothing.
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Signal (Mobile & WiFi)* -* The P30 pro has the better radio(s) by a large margin.* The S10 is terrible on both mobile and wifi and*in a tough coverage area (my current house) The P30 pro will be on circa -100db and perfectly useable, the S10 -119db or worse and struggling.
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Ultimately the camera and audio quality are the biggies for me, but the radio issue is also a daily annoyance. *The P30 pro has it’s own issues, I wish it had a higher-res screen (although local dimming to avoid PWM is a bonus), EMUI is an acquired taste and one ui is slightly slicker but overall it is hard to argue that for my use at least it does the most important things better.
Interested in the thoughts of anybody else on here who has owned both.
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I’ll kick off by saying that I am genuinely not trolling and I really want to like the Samsung S10 plus, I have the ceramic one and it is the nicest in-hand phone and a joy to pick up, it also has a slightly wider screen that I prefer as the P30 Pro can feel slightly narrow and cramped in comparison and I appreciate the higher resolution even if I only really notice it on text if I look really hard.* OneUI is ok these days and it does have a lot of features that I like built in too and it has a headphone jack!
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it is almost my perfect phone however, the thing is that I actually have a bit of love/hate relationship with it and I have come to think that the P30 Pro is maybe just a better all round phone even if it too has it’s annoyances, **YMMV but for me and here is why:
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Bluetooth audio - The P30 pro fully supports higher quality Bluetooth audio, the S10 does not.* The S10 defaults to ‘Best Effort’ you can select the ‘Balanced’ 660 kbps setting but you have to do this via developer settings EVERY TIME as it resets back to best effort. The highest quality 990 kbps option whilst selectable is choppy and not useable at all though.* On the P30 Pro, the highest quality option is available, works well and the LDAC settings have actually been put into the normal settings too and stick.* Win win!
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Camera - The P30 pro camera is significantly better than the S10 and the S10 plus camera is IMO very very disappointing, probably my biggest issue with the phone.* The smudged detail is there all the time although in good light you do have to pixel peep to see it but in medium to lower light the P30 pro just wipes the floor with it, no contest.* Also in medium to low light blurry images are common if there is even the slightest movement in the scene, looking at the exif the S10 always chooses a lower shutter speed than for the same scene, I am assuming this is to try keep the ISO as low as possible.* I think the main hardware is un-changed from the S9 and it shows, Samsung is just not as capable as Google with the computational stuff.** The camera on the P30 pro is just great and has the added cherry on the cake of the 5x zoom too.* Maybe Samsung will up it’s game with the S11/S20 but for me there is no doubt they have fallen behind by skimping on the hardware.
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Battery – The P30 pro is just better. The S10 is ok but still has that signature Samsung standby drain, they just love draining power when sitting there doing nothing.
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Signal (Mobile & WiFi)* -* The P30 pro has the better radio(s) by a large margin.* The S10 is terrible on both mobile and wifi and*in a tough coverage area (my current house) The P30 pro will be on circa -100db and perfectly useable, the S10 -119db or worse and struggling.
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Ultimately the camera and audio quality are the biggies for me, but the radio issue is also a daily annoyance. *The P30 pro has it’s own issues, I wish it had a higher-res screen (although local dimming to avoid PWM is a bonus), EMUI is an acquired taste and one ui is slightly slicker but overall it is hard to argue that for my use at least it does the most important things better.
Interested in the thoughts of anybody else on here who has owned both.
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Certainly Huawei do have very good camera's and maybe a few features.
However there's big issues with updates.
After owning a Mate20Pro for a while, carrier updates were very very slow, it took my carrier 5 months to push out the second update. Sure there is a few ways to manually update without bootloader unlock or root, but these are tediously annoying processes, in most cases meaning a complete wipe of the phone.
And then you have the future of updates being released at all if the Huawei/Trump Ban keeps going.
So I guess its a matter of do you want updated or outdated firmware?
Do you want the availability of Google Apps in the future?
For me the I prefer the thought of having latest bug fixes and security updates maybe a few extra improvements.
With Huawei its a game of Russian Roulette.
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Certainly Huawei do have very good camera's and maybe a few features.
However there's big issues with updates.
After owning a Mate20Pro for a while, carrier updates were very very slow, it took my carrier 5 months to push out the second update. Sure there is a few ways to manually update without bootloader unlock or root, but these are tediously annoying processes, in most cases meaning a complete wipe of the phone.
And then you have the future of updates being released at all if the Huawei/Trump Ban keeps going.
So I guess its a matter of do you want updated or outdated firmware?
Do you want the availability of Google Apps in the future?
For me the I prefer the thought of having latest bug fixes and security updates maybe a few extra improvements.
With Huawei its a game of Russian Roulette.
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Totally agree, it's a guessing game with the latest Huawei devices. Their EMUI is improved but it's still buggy especially with regards to background apps. Additionally, even though there's plenty of concerns with what Google's doing with your data, those concerns are minor compared to Huawei. I don't want my data in China's hands. It's common knowledge the Chinese government is deeply involved with piracy and hacking worldwide and there are legitimate issues with Huawei's ability to keep it's/your data out of their reach. Yes, Huawei has stated on numerous occasions they never share data with the Chinese Government but I'm far from convinced.
The issue is only really with new models the P30 and previous have Google apps and get updates.
Honestly I prefer the S10 plus but where it matters (camera, radio and audio quality) the P30 is better.
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The issue is only really with new models the P30 and previous have Google apps and get updates.
Honestly I prefer the S10 plus but where it matters (camera, radio and audio quality) the P30 is better.
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For Now they do, until Huawei decide they can't be bothered. And theres also the problem with delayed updates.
Like Optus took 5 months after the release to push out the first update for the Mate 20Pro, i spoke with Optus and Huawei, both blamed each other for the delay, when really it was Huawei whom did not release the firmware to Optus.
Interesting you write this, as I upgraded to a S10+ but still use my mate pro 10 for camera work as it's better quality in my opinion, and the battery life on a 2 1/2 year phone is better than my S10+.
There are things that I am enjoying about this phone but it was certainly a shorter than expected honeymoon period with it
arsenal74 said:
I’ll kick off by saying that I am genuinely not trolling and I really want to like the Samsung S10 plus, I have the ceramic one and it is the nicest in-hand phone and a joy to pick up, it also has a slightly wider screen that I prefer as the P30 Pro can feel slightly narrow and cramped in comparison and I appreciate the higher resolution even if I only really notice it on text if I look really hard.* OneUI is ok these days and it does have a lot of features that I like built in too and it has a headphone jack!
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it is almost my perfect phone however, the thing is that I actually have a bit of love/hate relationship with it and I have come to think that the P30 Pro is maybe just a better all round phone even if it too has it’s annoyances, **YMMV but for me and here is why:
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Bluetooth audio - The P30 pro fully supports higher quality Bluetooth audio, the S10 does not.* The S10 defaults to ‘Best Effort’ you can select the ‘Balanced’ 660 kbps setting but you have to do this via developer settings EVERY TIME as it resets back to best effort. The highest quality 990 kbps option whilst selectable is choppy and not useable at all though.* On the P30 Pro, the highest quality option is available, works well and the LDAC settings have actually been put into the normal settings too and stick.* Win win!
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Camera - The P30 pro camera is significantly better than the S10 and the S10 plus camera is IMO very very disappointing, probably my biggest issue with the phone.* The smudged detail is there all the time although in good light you do have to pixel peep to see it but in medium to lower light the P30 pro just wipes the floor with it, no contest.* Also in medium to low light blurry images are common if there is even the slightest movement in the scene, looking at the exif the S10 always chooses a lower shutter speed than for the same scene, I am assuming this is to try keep the ISO as low as possible.* I think the main hardware is un-changed from the S9 and it shows, Samsung is just not as capable as Google with the computational stuff.** The camera on the P30 pro is just great and has the added cherry on the cake of the 5x zoom too.* Maybe Samsung will up it’s game with the S11/S20 but for me there is no doubt they have fallen behind by skimping on the hardware.
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Battery – The P30 pro is just better. The S10 is ok but still has that signature Samsung standby drain, they just love draining power when sitting there doing nothing.
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Signal (Mobile & WiFi)* -* The P30 pro has the better radio(s) by a large margin.* The S10 is terrible on both mobile and wifi and*in a tough coverage area (my current house) The P30 pro will be on circa -100db and perfectly useable, the S10 -119db or worse and struggling.
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Ultimately the camera and audio quality are the biggies for me, but the radio issue is also a daily annoyance. *The P30 pro has it’s own issues, I wish it had a higher-res screen (although local dimming to avoid PWM is a bonus), EMUI is an acquired taste and one ui is slightly slicker but overall it is hard to argue that for my use at least it does the most important things better.
Interested in the thoughts of anybody else on here who has owned both.
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I know this is quite old but i dont think i have idle drain on s10+ exynos but i read many had it in the past. It must have been fixed before august 2020 when i bought the phone.
Its quite funny about the camera because i am usually annoyed that s10+ actually doesnt wanna go below 1/50 and increases ISO instead. For example in metro i end up with a shot 1/50 ISO 640 where as it could have been idk 1/20 ISO 200. So they never come out blurry for me because phone prefers fast shutter speed(though a bit soft cuz high ISO). You kinda made me apperciate faster shutter more now . I guess it was updated after you got rid of your phone?
Battery is pretty good imo. Its really good unless im gaming(dead by daylight, very heavy). Then its about 3-3.5hours which is fine i suppose.
About the smudged images.. That was one of the things i was scared most when buying this phone. But after using it for months, (even in the first days) smudge didnt bother me as much as i thought it would. Photos always look amazing overall, white balance, exposure, HDR does a good job. And detail is good enough as well. But side by side im sure p30 would be slightly more detailed. (Though p30 is 10MP so maybe they would be equal?)
When i was shopping for s10+ the biggest contender was p30 for me, it was 1/3 cheaper and 3x optical zoom but what put me off was the colors that came out from the sensors.. In anandtechs review p30 series had serious white balance/color issues and i was really put off by that. And the reason they said was the red blue yellow sensor which gathers more light but has trouble with colors since yellow isnt a main color. Maybe it might have been fixed by now? But i couldnt take the risk of whether it could or would be fixed since it does look like hardware limitation.
About wifi, i do have some wifi related problems, sometimes i have to restart apps for wifi to work for them.
And s10+ uses high gamma at minimum brightness which causes black clipping. It can be fixed for youtube app but if you play a dark game like dead by daylight at min brightness, you will have a lot of trouble on s10+.
Tbh i should have bought mi10 for myself haha. s10+ is a good phone for sure but like you said every phone has its advantages and disadvantages. And i apparently didnt know what i really should have been paying attention to. I was really focused on camera but to be real all flagships have great camera, i obsessed over it for no reason. Mi10 has way better performance and it has a gamma slider and its manual brightness is much higher. (I did a hdr bug on s10+ which allows screen to go much brighter but works only on android 10 so i cant update if i want to keep using it.. also s10+ dims when gaming after it heats up but think mi10 doesnt? Which would make gaming in front of a bright window better but at least 700 nits whenever i want is really good)
Okay i did go off topic a bit sorry. Anyways have a great day xD
Recently famous tech review channel "Unbox Therapy" posted a first impressions unboxing video of the Note 20 and Note 20 Ultra.
While comparing the 2 devices he happened to noticed when comparing the 2 models that the display of the ULTRA was way LESS vivid and LESS bright than the STANDARD Note 20.
He confirmed both were set to 100% brightness, both had adaptive brightness OFF, both were set to Vivid Screen Mode, and both had the white point in the center.
You can view the video and see the difference yourself in the video here....
Time stamp 8:50 if you just want to jump right when he realizes the display difference between them, and starts to troubleshoot this strange difference.
I was planning on potentially preordering the Note 20 Ultra so this really bothered me since I prefer a Vivid display. It shows on video he checked every setting except "Adaptive Color Filter" and "Enhanced Video."
My Testing and Results
So I knew I had to go to the store to see for myself and I went to Best Buy today and they had both the Note 20 & Note 20 Ultra on display.
Bad news... SAME exact results that Lew from Unbox Therapy had. See the pictures of all settings and testing I did below.
In all pictures the Note 20 Ultra is on the Left, the Standard Note 20 on the Right.
Brightness at Max for both displays, and Adaptive Brightness disabled for both devices, and Blue Light Filter disabled for both devices, and both devices set to Vivid mode.
Display Settings
Adaptive Color was also disabled on both devices.
Adaptive Color Filter
Notice the Standard Note 20 on the right has a brighter white point.
White Balance Comparison
This is a 4K UHD wallpaper I downloaded onto both devices. It's the exact same image from the same website. Notice that the Standard Note 20 on the right has more Vivid looking colors with better contrast.
Color Comparison
CONCLUSION:
After spending literally 30+ minutes standing there playing around with both phones, it seems the brightness is pretty close to the same on both. But the Standard Note 20 did seem to have a slight edge on 100% brightness. However the main big difference is the Standard Note 20 has more Vivid colors and Higher Contrast.
I do not think this is because the Note 20 Ultra display is not able to produce colors and contrast as Vivid as the Regular Note 20. I believe it just has to do with the display calibration in the hard coded software of the Ultra that is causing the colors to be more Natural than Vivid.
I came to the conclusion it was a software issue when I was watching the same YouTube video on both displays (Video Enhancer was disabled for both devices), and when playing the video the Ultra suddenly kicked into a more Vivid mode making it look nearly identical to the Regular Note.
Then when closing out of the video and to the YouTube home page it went back to a more Natural color and less contrast mode. Of course that was strange since video enhancer was disabled for both devices.
So this proves the display is capable of being Vivid with High Contrast, but just something in software that Samsung needs to calibrate in the Ultra model. Or maybe worse... potentially this was intentional by Samsung to help preserve battery since it is a 120hz display?
So Samsung needs to.... 1.) Crank up the Vividness of the Vivid mode to at least be Equal to the Standard Note and 2.) Fix video enhancement from turning on during YouTube videos when it's disabled in settings.
So I'm holding off to make a decision on whether to preorder or not since there is still about 12 days left. Meanwhile I hope that they push out a early release software update to fix the Vivid color profile on the Ultra. This is technically preproduction software so it COULD change with a software update, but there's of course no guarantee Samsung will fix this.
So if you prefer a Vivid display that Samsung is typically known for, then it is up to us as consumers to bring this to the attention of Samsung and popular Tech Reviewers, because Samsung doesn't know to fix this color calibration in software unless we make noise to let them know we want a Vivid display.
What is everyone's thoughts on this? Would this be a deal breaker for you on a $1,300 phone if the Vivid Colors and Contrast is noticeably less when compared to your Note 10+ or your S10/S10+ or S20/S20+? or do you prefer a more natural less vivid display?
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Hopefully also @dylanraga does a detailed display test on the Note 20 Ultra just like the awesome job he did with the OnePlus 8 Pro right here. That way we can see the actual technical results to further our evidence to bring to Samsung's attention.
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Further Confirmation of This Issue....
I asked Hayato Huseman (videographer/reviewer at Android Central) if he could check his Note 20 Ultra device. He did not have a regular Note 20 to compare, but confirmed the Note 20 Ultra is LESS Vivid than the S20 Ultra.
So that means people upgrading from a previous Galaxy will potentially be upgrading to a Less Vivid display in the Note 20 Ultra.
Very interesting and disappointing results for me personally. So now Unbox Therapy, and now Hayato from Android Central, and my personal testing have all confirmed the Note 20 Ultra isn't as Vivid as standard Note or Galaxys. I'm hoping a software update gets pushed out to resolve this.
Here is the Tweet where Hayato confirms this comparison if anyone wants to check it out.
https://twitter.com/hayatohuseman/status/1292588939195318273?s=19
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New Update!!! Some Note 20 Ultras might have dimmer and less vibrant display than other Note 20 Ultras.
This entire post was originally dedicated to the Note 20 Ultra having a less bright and less vivid display than the standard Note 20, and even the Note 10 Plus, Note 9, Note 8, S20/S20+/S20 Ultra, and OnePlus 8 Pro.
However this issue just took a more crazy turn for the worse. Now it has been discovered that some Note 20 Ultra phones have dimmer less vibrant displays than other Note 20 Ultra phones. Thats right... 2 of the same phones with [different looking displays. This was discovered thanks to Zack at JerryRigEverything YouTube channel when he was testing the 2 different processors.
Check out his video here
At time stamp 4:05 he says... "You might have also noticed the screen color is a bit different with both phones. I'm pretty sure I have the brightness turned up all the way on each. But it makes you wonder if there are other components that don't match up between the variants as well."
I have also attached a picture on page 6 of a post to show the difference. My Note 20 Ultra is a US Snapdragon variant and my display looks like the display on the left (Zach's exynos). I also noticed today that adaptive brightness is NOT fully turning off. I thought a few times over the past couple weeks I saw my display suddenly get brighter or dimmer. But I figured it was just my imagination because I always keep the adaptive brightness off.
However I am able to consistently reproduce it. If I put the brightness at 100% with adaptive brightness Off, then open chrome, the phone immediately dims 1 second after. Then brightens back at the home screen. Try it on your phone. Maybe the out of wack adaptive brightness is a separate issue, or maybe this could be the culprit to these dimmer less vivid displays. So I wanted to mention it too.
I also was able to reproduce it in a different scenario by putting my phone inches away from a bright light in my bathroom while on 100% manual brightness, notice it get brighter without me touching anything, then take it away from the light quickly, then see it dim right in front of my face. Looks like its dropping a solid 20% brightness but the slider doesn't change position. Still shows 100%!
Please test those 2 scenarios on your phone let everyone know if it happens to you too. Also if someone happens to have 2 Note 20 Ultras or know someone who does, then please compare the displays and post 2 pictures. One showing the 2 displays on the google.com homepage in chrome and 1 showing the display section in settings.
Anyone who had a noticeably dimmer display than 1 of your previous Samsung phones made in the past 2 years, then please contact Samsung support and report this. I will be contacting them for the first time about this issue and pushing them for a resolution. Even if that means exchanging for another Note 20 Ultra.
I prefer a more natural looking display like my iPhone LOL.
However, I agree, if someone WANTS inaccurate oversaturated colors then it should be available to them.
That is why stereos have bass and treble controls.
Honestly not real worried about it. Unless you have both side by side shouldn't ever notice. Now if it doesn't look better then my note 10+ then we will have a problem
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At 60hz it's more easy to calibrate the screen colour than a 120hz since there is more variables. That's why Pixel 4 XL has problems at lower brightness at launch since it wasn't calibrated.
Did you disable enhanced video mode on both of them?
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Did you disable enhanced video mode on both of them?
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Yep! I mention that in my original post. Read in the conclusion section.
Also the picture of me comparing colors is not a video. That is a downloaded a wallpaper. So even if it was turned on, that setting should not affect pictures to my knowledge.
cpufrost said:
I prefer a more natural looking display like my iPhone LOL.
However, I agree, if someone WANTS inaccurate oversaturated colors then it should be available to them.
That is why stereos have bass and treble controls.
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Yes! Exactly!! Everyone has different preferences. The option should be there for those who want. Plus what's the point of having a vivid display option when it's not that vivid? That kind of defeats the purpose of the setting existing.
Plus Samsung says on their website that the Ultra is the most Vivid display on any Galaxy. Clearly that's not the case when comparing it to the standard Note 20. Since their website claims it's supposed to be the most vivid, that indicates the Ultra display is not supposed to be this way and something might be messed up in the software that is preventing it from being as vivid as they claim it should be, so they just need to roll out an update to fix it.
oneandroidnut said:
Honestly not real worried about it. Unless you have both side by side shouldn't ever notice. Now if it doesn't look better then my note 10+ then we will have a problem
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It's definitely not more vivid than my S10+ but I didn't take any pictures of that. It seems to be about the same Vividness as my S10+ which is strange.
Not sure about the Note 10+ but probably same results since it wasn't more Vivid than my S10+. I highly recommend going to compare it to your Note 10+ in person.
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At 60hz it's more easy to calibrate the screen colour than a 120hz since there is more variables. That's why Pixel 4 XL has problems at lower brightness at launch since it wasn't calibrated.
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Good point! I actually did briefly put the Note 20 Ultra into 60hz then compared again. I got the same results. Still not as Vivid as the Standard Note 20. I just didn't mention it in my original post because results were the same as using 120hz from what I could tell.
Could it be as simple as pre-release software, or unlikely?
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Could it be as simple as pre-release software, or unlikely?
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Yes, that could definitely be the problem. That it's a bug in their pre-production software that Samsung have not yet noticed.
If you read my conclusion section in my original post I talk about why my testing indicated it seemed to be a software calibration problem and not a problem with the physical display panel.
So that's good, it means they could push out an update to fix it later. Of course there is no guarantee. They will likely only do that if several consumers complain about this issue of the Ultra not being very Vivid in the Vivid display mode.
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Yes, that could definitely be the problem. That it's a bug in their pre-production software that Samsung have not yet noticed.
If you read my conclusion section in my original post I talk about why my testing indicated it seemed to be a software calibration problem and not a problem with the physical display panel.
So that's good, it means they could push out an update to fix it later. Of course there is no guarantee. They will likely only do that if several consumers complain about this issue of the Ultra not being very Vivid in the Vivid display mode.
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I did read your whole post, I just needed it dumbed down for myself.
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I did read your whole post, I just needed it dumbed down for myself.
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Lol! Okay fair enough! Although what I worry about the most is they are doing this limit on Vividness to save battery. In which case means they would not fix it.
The only reason I don't think that it's on purpose is because they claim on their website the Ultra display is the most Vivid Galaxy ever.
I assume it's the flat screen? Or maybe not the 2x? I don't know what that means on the ultra
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I asked Hayato Huseman (videographer/reviewer at Android Central) if he could check his Note 20 Ultra device. He did not have a regular Note 20 to compare, but confirmed the Note 20 Ultra is LESS Vivid than the S20 Ultra.
So that means people upgrading from an S20 or S10 will potentially be upgrading to a Less Vivid display in the Note 20 Ultra.
Very interesting and disappointing results for me personally. So now Unbox Therapy, and my in store comparison testing, and Hayato from Android Crntral have all confirmed the Note 20 Ultra isn't very Vivid. I'm hoping a software update gets pushed out to resolve this.
Here is the Tweet where Hayato confirms this comparison if anyone wants to check it out.
https://twitter.com/hayatohuseman/status/1292588939195318273?s=19
I saw that review from Unbox Therapy (He is really my favorite reviewer - funny but very informative)
Anyway - like virtually all of the Samsung Devices I have ordered pre-orders for (virtually every single major release since the S4 I think) I have gotten sort of used to these little faux pas on their major releases - the last phone, Galaxy 20 Ultra had the notorious problems with Auto Focus....and just about every other phone they launched had something that eventually was fixed - so anyway, I kind of expect something to happen each time a new samsung phone is released - while I am not super happy that this appears to be going to happen again with the new note, it seems like it should be relatively easy to fix with an update, once Samsung figures it out...and I do expect they will find and fix it pretty soon.
Thankfully, it doesn't appear to be as big as the battery issues of the Note 7 or the Auto Focus of the S20....Fingers Crossed it gets fixed soon after release...
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I assume it's the flat screen? Or maybe not the 2x? I don't know what that means on the ultra
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No, a flat screen would not make a display more Vivid if that is what you're wondering. There has been many curved Samsung displays that were Vivid.
I don't know what you mean by "the 2x" what are you referring to? Where did you see that?
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No, a flat screen would not make a display more Vivid if that is what you're wondering. There has been many curved Samsung displays that were Vivid.
I don't know what you mean by "the 2x" what are you referring to? Where did you see that?
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Straight from Samsung website. I thought maybe it meant twice the refresh but then it still says 120 hz so idk
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I saw that review from Unbox Therapy (He is really my favorite reviewer - funny but very informative)
Anyway - like virtually all of the Samsung Devices I have ordered pre-orders for (virtually every single major release since the S4 I think) I have gotten sort of used to these little faux pas on their major releases - the last phone, Galaxy 20 Ultra had the notorious problems with Auto Focus....and just about every other phone they launched had something that eventually was fixed - so anyway, I kind of expect something to happen each time a new samsung phone is released - while I am not super happy that this appears to be going to happen again with the new note, it seems like it should be relatively easy to fix with an update, once Samsung figures it out...and I do expect they will find and fix it pretty soon.
Thankfully, it doesn't appear to be as big as the battery issues of the Note 7 or the Auto Focus of the S20....Fingers Crossed it gets fixed soon after release...
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I love how optimistic you are! I hope you're right! Still gonna hold off on the preorder until reviews start to come out over the next few days. Then make my final decision.
Hopefully a reviewer with close connections to Samsung brings it to their attention, so then we can get confirmation they are aware of the issue and working to fix it. Then I will feel better about pre-ordering. I really hope it is fixed, because it seems like the perfect phone in every other way besides this.
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Straight from Samsung website. I thought maybe it meant twice the refresh but then it still says 120 hz so idk
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Ah Okay I see. I'm not really sure either. I searched that on Google and the display on the S20 Ultra was also called that. I think it's Samsung's way of saying like version 2 of their Dynamic AMOLED. But not sure either. Couldn't really find any explanation.