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The Z3 is a nice device, I enjoy the screen, thinness and weight, but the latter two definitely come at the expense of battery life.
Of course the faster CPU also plays a part. I'm just getting 3 hours of on screen time with my usage out of it. On the Z2 I got 4 hours.
I don't even know what these people do who get an insane 10 hours of screen on time out of theirs. Probably different kind of use, but still...
Once again I need to look having an external battery with me.
Disappointed.
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The Z3 is a nice device, I enjoy the screen, thinness and weight, but the latter two definitely come at the expense of battery life.
Of course the faster CPU also plays a part. I'm just getting 3 hours of on screen time with my usage out of it. On the Z2 I got 4 hours.
I don't even know what these people do who get an insane 10 hours of screen on time out of theirs. Probably different kind of use, but still...
Once again I need to look having an external battery with me.
Disappointed.
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Post your battery stats page. Seems odd to me. I have 2.5 hours of on screen time with 10 hours on battery at 78% at the moment.
I noticed that too since I switch from Z2. Its difficult to see from the power management tool indicating how many screen time ect.. the battery life just don't seems to be better then z2, and results and very random.. sometimes better then z2, sometimes worst then z2. Perheps firmware upgrade will help..
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I have rolled through 3 Z3s due to defects on my 4th, all had great battery life up to 8.5 hours SOT, lowest is about 5 hrs SOT, before calibration. Give it a few charging cycles, or do a full charge and full discharge then recharge and use. You should then be fine. If that does not work maybe you got some errant apps or lots of them continously syncing. Also go to backup and reset menu and disable data logging.
been averaging a day and a half with over 8 hrs SOT with mine. mix of wifi/lte
I don't know how you guys do it. I always get around 3 hours SOT, no matter what. I wish there was a way to check wakelocks without root.
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I think it has something to do with the apps you use.
Facebook, facebook messenger, snapchat, swiftkey and Nova Launcher gave me from 4+ estimated days (in stamina mode) to 1 day and 1 hours.
If I don't play games, I get between 6 and 8 hours SOT at the moment.
Check that google play services aren't burning through battery.
Should never get 2 or 3 or even 4 hours SOT unless you're playing games.
I use screen brightness on about 80% as well.
I'll be posting my power usage screenshots soon.
Off to the top off my head, screen was about 50% of power (with automatic brightness, and the slider set on the 1st third), the most power hungry app took about 25%, with the rest taken up by various other processes and apps.
WiFi off.
Facebook used to be a battery killer, I don't use it, but check on that.
Z3 has an incredible battery life
there's something wrong in the op
For my baterry stay perfectly (often 20% for system 20% standby and 50% screen)
Even if it's Facebook that eats 25% of power that still wouldn't account for the overall bad battery life.
Nope mate, sorry - my battery life is out of this world. It's not the Z3, it's your device - get it tested, re-flashed or inspected if the problem persists.
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Facebook used to be a battery killer, I don't use it, but check on that.
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Remove facebook or use an app killer
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Remove facebook or use an app killer
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Oh no I already removed, I do not have any battery issues, I was just giving a tip to OP.
Right, so here are my power usage screen shots.
I don't think these can be called ok in any kind of scenario.
I would like to add that with my Z2 I didn't ever get up to the 6 or 7 hours other people were getting out of it, but with my kind of use I got 4 to 4.5 hours, which is considerably more than I'm getting right now.
I supposed it's kinda obvious, with a faster CPU and a smaller battery. What else could have happened. It just annoys me that Sony tries to tell us that battery life is BETTER than on the Z2. It is not.
Well, reviews uphold/confirm Sony's claims so its probably not the phone itself per say. I get 7-8.5 Hrs SOT easily. Disable autosync when un-needed and location services as well. Then see.
Just as everyone suspected, it's malwarebook causing abysmal battery life. Remove it and watch your phone get tons more battery.
Considering that you're one of the very few, if not only, getting poor battery.....I have no idea what else it could be. The phone get's better battery because of using the 801 SOC instead of the 800, which sips battery like fine wine, leading to the increase in life over the z2.
Malware.... Yeah, whatevs.
Fact remains that with the same usage as before my Z3 performs worse than my Z2, so there.
Hi,
I recently bought the Moto X Pure Edition. Overall I am very pleased with it however there is one thing that constantly bugs me. The battery life is absolutely terrible. I'd seen no mention of this before I bought the device but having bought it, I'm realizing how terrible it is. I only get around 2-2.5 hours of screen on time. This is even worse than the moto g 2014 I owned before which i could easily get 3 hours with. Are other people having similar experiences and are there any potential solutions?
Also, can you guys suggest some custom ROMs for me with great battery life and very stable? Thanks!
Try TruPureXMM, it has the best battery life among other roms, AFAIK. Well, that's because it is based on stock. Try it out for yourself.
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Am on stock and battery life is terrible. Can hardly end with 3h max with a full charge. And am one of those that stops most of the moto actions, low brightness, no wi-fi all time etc but still its worst battery life I've seen on a mobile. I think it has to do with the big screen it has!
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Try TruPureXMM, it has the best battery life among other roms, AFAIK. Well, that's because it is based on stock. Try it out for yourself.
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What changes does it have from stock?
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What changes does it have from stock?
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It is debloated (forgot the others lol). Check the thread to see all the information you need.
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check out frankenkernel. I get 5Hrs of SoT
I have a brand-new XT 1572 (on stock) and would not call its battery life terrible. I'm getting 5 hours continuous SoT on WiFi (not sure people are using the term "SoT" consistently - if the phone is on for 24 hours, I'd expect to get less than 5 hours SoT; same when I'm on a 4G connection, particularly a bad one). Not great, but acceptable (and not unexpected in light of XT 157x reviews).
I have a shortcut to Settings - battery on my home screen which I check frequently (while I'm in the process of getting familiar with the phone), I have OS Monitor on my home screen, and I occasionally check "running services" under "Developer Options". I use Nova Launcher which makes it very easy to force-stop an app just by long-tapping it, hitting "App info" and then stopping it.
All of this has caused me to uninstall a few power-hogging apps which I probably did not need in the first place; I also find I need to occasionally force-stop apps such as Neutron.
In an average day, from 6am-10pm of mixed WiFi/LTE usage I get about 3 hours total screen on time, and the majority of the time I have good-excellect signal strength... If I have average to poor signal strength, 2-2.5 hours SOT is normal. On WiFi with continuous usage I get 4+ hours. This is normal.
Sorry, but the battery life of this phone, especially if used in bright light or outdoors, is just not good. The display is gorgeous, but it is an unbelievable battery hog.
I have tried many ROMs and all have worse batter then stock... TruPureXMM is debloated stock but the battery life isn't much different because it's the screen that takes 80-90% of the power, no rom can change that.
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In an average day, from 6am-10pm of mixed WiFi/LTE usage I get about 3 hours total screen on time, and the majority of the time I have good-excellect signal strength... If I have average to poor signal strength, 2-2.5 hours SOT is normal. On WiFi with continuous usage I get 4+ hours. This is normal.
Sorry, but the battery life of this phone, especially if used in bright light or outdoors, is just not good. The display is gorgeous, but it is an unbelievable battery hog.
I have tried many ROMs and all have worse batter then stock... TruPureXMM is debloated stock but the battery life isn't much different because it's the screen that takes 80-90% of the power, no rom can change that.
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I don't disagree with you - I call it "acceptable", you call it "just not good". I'd stop (far) short of calling it "terrible, terrible" though - and let's face it, this is why the device sells at the price point it does - which, to me, right now, is (a) close to the limit of what I'm prepared to pay for a smartphone and (b) great value for money. I'd rather be close to a charger or battery pack (in fact, I ordered a slim battery pack when I ordered the phone) with this phone at all times than owning a different phone (in this price range) with better battery life but other challenges/compromises I need to take. This devices's predecessor (for me) was the LG G3 - same thing, except that this device actually works.
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I have tried many ROMs and all have worse batter then stock... TruPureXMM is debloated stock but the battery life isn't much different because it's the screen that takes 80-90% of the power, no rom can change that.
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I completely agree with the above. Thats main reason I havent used a custom Rom yet and still waiting for Stock 7 realease (hopefully we see it within the next 2 months) before trying a custom rom yet.
But i wanted to ask a question about the screen taking all that ℅ in the battery drain:
I remember i read somewhere in another thread an option that changes the screen resolution to FHD 1080 instead of QHD. You think that really makes the screen battery drain lighter or it doesnt matter !?
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I don't disagree with you - I call it "acceptable", you call it "just not good". I'd stop (far) short of calling it "terrible, terrible" though - and let's face it, this is why the device sells at the price point it does - which, to me, right now, is (a) close to the limit of what I'm prepared to pay for a smartphone and (b) great value for money. I'd rather be close to a charger or battery pack (in fact, I ordered a slim battery pack when I ordered the phone) with this phone at all times than owning a different phone (in this price range) with better battery life but other challenges/compromises I need to take. This devices's predecessor (for me) was the LG G3 - same thing, except that this device actually works.
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My prior phones were an LG G2 and an LG G4 and I was thinking that my 6 month old 2015 MXPE had good battery life. I'm not sure I have ever had a phone that lasted all day. I need to stop buying sub par phones I guess. My Pixel XL (once it gets here) will hopefully fix that.
This is from stock 6.0 - May 2016 Patches - using it on Verizon network
From GSam Battery Monitor, since August 15, 2016:
Averages Per Complete Charge -
Battery Life: 1d 5.3h (8h 29m Active)
Screen On: 3h 56m (5h 11m Max)
I pretty much just charge my phone for 45 - 50 minutes a day at work and do not leave it on the charger any longer than it has to be.
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I completely agree with the above. Thats main reason I havent used a custom Rom yet and still waiting for Stock 7 realease (hopefully we see it within the next 2 months) before trying a custom rom yet.
But i wanted to ask a question about the screen taking all that ℅ in the battery drain:
I remember i read somewhere in another thread an option that changes the screen resolution to FHD 1080 instead of QHD. You think that really makes the screen battery drain lighter or it doesnt matter !?
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If you read thread I believe that only worked on Lollipop... People who did it on Marshmallow claimed it made no difference.
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If you read thread I believe that only worked on Lollipop... People who did it on Marshmallow claimed it made no difference.
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Yea, I was trying that method on Marshmallow. No positive changes on battery life, but got negative impact on Moto Display, it was to ugly for me to use.
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I don't disagree with you - I call it "acceptable", you call it "just not good". I'd stop (far) short of calling it "terrible, terrible" though - and let's face it, this is why the device sells at the price point it does - which, to me, right now, is (a) close to the limit of what I'm prepared to pay for a smartphone and (b) great value for money. I'd rather be close to a charger or battery pack (in fact, I ordered a slim battery pack when I ordered the phone) with this phone at all times than owning a different phone (in this price range) with better battery life but other challenges/compromises I need to take. This devices's predecessor (for me) was the LG G3 - same thing, except that this device actually works.
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Eh, to each there own... My previous phone was a Moto G 2015, it easily got 5 hours SOT in a day with battery to spare, so to me the battery life on the X is poor, but not terrible... I also carry mini power stick for charging on the go, and a QC adapter.
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In an average day, from 6am-10pm of mixed WiFi/LTE usage I get about 3 hours total screen on time, and the majority of the time I have good-excellect signal strength... If I have average to poor signal strength, 2-2.5 hours SOT is normal. On WiFi with continuous usage I get 4+ hours. This is normal.
Sorry, but the battery life of this phone, especially if used in bright light or outdoors, is just not good. The display is gorgeous, but it is an unbelievable battery hog.
I have tried many ROMs and all have worse batter then stock... TruPureXMM is debloated stock but the battery life isn't much different because it's the screen that takes 80-90% of the power, no rom can change that.
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How about frankenclark with ghostpepper?
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How about frankenclark with ghostpepper?
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What about it? Kernels, roms, etc, can't do anything about how much power the display uses, it's like trying to make a 100w light bulb use 40 watts... they can only effect other things like SOC, syncing, etc.
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What about it? Kernels, roms, etc, can't do anything about how much power the display uses, it's like trying to make a 100w light bulb use 40 watts... they can only effect other things like SOC, syncing, etc.
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I agree here. A 5.7" screen will require more power just to light up. As far as changing resolution, you are still powering a 5.7" display. You might notice some slight difference in battery (and maybe fps) when playing games, but it is really related to going a little easier on the chips.
I'm still on true pure, not even the most recent build, and I could always get a day and a half of battery use, or at least a full day with moderate use.
Hey folks, just wanted to chime in on this. I had the phone since it's release and got around 5 to 6 hours of SoT with WiFi, GPS enabled (but not while using maps lol) and brightness set to about 50%. Battery life has gotten worse with each update and now I am waiting for Android 7 and I will reset my phone after it's installed.
Btw I disable any build in app that I don't use and uninstall apps that use to much battery in the background.
Am on Telsa 03/02 Build. And the battery life is as good as Stock. 3hrs SOT on LTE with Data ON the whole time and 4hrs SOT on WiFi. All the while keeping GPS ON High Accuracy and Ambient display.
No Greenify or any other battery booster.
The performance is better than Stock and all the features working near perfectly. It's a good choice, you get to use Nougat without really compromising the battery much.
Here is the post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...ms-validus-t3561477/post71196401#post71196401
Also I have recently changed the resolution to 1080p. It doesn't increase battery life much but definitely boosts the performance.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...ing-screen-t3190234/post71194289#post71194289
All I can say is, despite the battery life being poor, you have TurboPower charger which definitely saves the day. The phone charges from 10% to 100% within half n hour.
Hello,
I am an LG fan (mainly due to the always-on display and the reliable tap to wake/sleep functions which I find tremendously useful) and since the G7 was launched (too big of a phone and too small battery for my needs) I decided that the G6 may actually fit my needs better due to being smaller and having a bigger battery (and the perfectly flat screen of the G6 which allows me to use an invisible tempered glass protector).
But I'm worried about battery life, especially stand-by. I need a phone that lasts 2 days with like 2-3h of SOT (I don't use the phone much but I really need it to have low standby drain). From what I read until now, the standby drain is a bit of a hit and miss with the G6...
I was wondering if the new Oreo release brings any improvements in standby drain ? Does anyone have experience with it ?
Thanks !
Idle battery drain mainly depends on the apps you use and whether they sleep ok or misbehave. I can use my G6 for 2 days...
call me pessimistic, but i never had better battery life after my phone was updated to the next release of software. It could be partially because battery life was depleted after long period of waiting for updates. I can say that with Samsung S8 and Sony and HTC10, it was definitely a case. I do not expect miracle with G6 either.
will be happy if someone can show me otherwise
Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.
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Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.
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You may have some bad apps. I never loose more than 3-5% over night with wifi on.
i have G600L from Korea, and i can assure that Oreo has not had any improvements on standby drain. Well the good thing is that it doesn't get any worse.
That has been my experience with other phones as well. Even if some new battery saving technique is built into the new OS, it is more than compensated for by the bloat of the new OS and updated apps, which have more services running in the background.
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call me pessimistic, but i never had better battery life after my phone was updated to the next release of software. It could be partially because battery life was depleted after long period of waiting for updates. I can say that with Samsung S8 and Sony and HTC10, it was definitely a case. I do not expect miracle with G6 either.
will be happy if someone can show me otherwise
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Idle battery drain mainly depends on the apps you use and whether they sleep ok or misbehave. I can use my G6 for 2 days...
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On average, people in this forum have been reporting idle battery drain of 2-3% per hour. However there is quite a bit of variation both day to day in the same device and between devices. You have been one of the lucky ones, most likely having nothing to do with what apps or settings you do or don't use. 2 seperate threads have been devoted to dealing with the problem, but nothing consistently helps. Most likely either a hardware issue, like the radio cycling hi or low power, or something in Nougat that LG might or might not fix (according to the post above they did not...)
Regarding "misbehaving" apps-- basically almost every useful app has that potential, since so much functionality of the smartphone revolves around the ability to multitask or run in the background. So if you want to leave the phone with only stock apps, install nothing, and block all syncing, reminders or notifications, I'm sure you can modestly reduce the idle drain, but so what? It negates the whole point of the smartphone... I remember I could get a whole week out of my Nokia 3150 candybar phone
I'd be interested to learn which apps you have and what settings you changed.
I loose about 3% over night with WiFi, BT and location = high precision. I have and use many apps (>120) but most of them are productivity tools, VPN, etc. I use only ad free and many paid apps e.g. Maildroid pro for email. Maybe ad free is one of the reasons as I'll have less background activity. On the other hand my Voip client (Grandstream Wave) is always on and I still have no idle issue...
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i have G600L from Korea, and i can assure that Oreo has not had any improvements on standby drain. Well the good thing is that it doesn't get any worse.
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Did you have problems with battery drain on Nougat? How much did you loose over night with Nougat, how much now with Oreo?
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Did you have problems with battery drain on Nougat? How much did you loose over night with Nougat, how much now with Oreo?
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I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone
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I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone
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1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
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I loose about 3% over night with WiFi, BT and location = high precision. I have and use many apps (>120) but most of them are productivity tools, VPN, etc. I use only ad free and many paid apps e.g. Maildroid pro for email. Maybe ad free is one of the reasons as I'll have less background activity. On the other hand my Voip client (Grandstream Wave) is always on and I still have no idle issue...
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Interesting that there are such huge differences between users. I do have a few ad supported apps, maybe that explains part of the difference.
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I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone
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I loose around 5% with wifi on and have pretty good signal on wifi and mobile data. I listen to music for 30 minutes before sleeping with external bluetooth speakers. But BT is disabling automatically after that.
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1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
1% whole night
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Hello everyone! how do you reach certain levels of autonomy? I have a few apps on my smartphone and yet I dream of your values, how do you do it? do you have any special settings? have you run any particular command in ADB? I noticed that my phone is particularly slow on startup and once turned on (with 0 apps open) it has a use of RAM. more than 50%, is it normal?
thank you
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jshames said:
1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
1% whole night
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Wow, that's a huge difference from 2-3% an hour....
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screen saver is the issue
setting-->display-->screen saver. Turn that off if you are still in andriod 7.0.
I did that after saw someone's post, and my one year old LG G6 back to normal battery condition. Now I can get 20% remain by 10PM at night, after start using it since 6AM, with regular web browering, gaming and video viewing.
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Wow, that's a huge difference from 2-3% an hour....
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When I leave mine at 100% charge before going to bed at night, it's still at 100% the morning after. So, a 1% change the whole night is not bad (nor extra-ordinary).
I have my wifi and bluetooth always on. But I don't have the screen at "always on" setting. My email sync settings are on "smart" mode. Other installed apps which may run in the background are News app, GroupMe, My Data Manager, and NetGuard.
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setting-->display-->screen saver. Turn that off if you are still in andriod 7.0.
I did that after saw someone's post, and my one year old LG G6 back to normal battery condition. Now I can get 20% remain by 10PM at night, after start using it since 6AM, with regular web browering, gaming and video viewing.
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That's strange. That setting is supposed to apply only when the phone is plugged in
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Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.
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10 months old H870DS, HKG firmware, no battery degradation because with nougat I charged it at 1.5 to 2 days. 2 SIM cards standby, 4G networks, active use of the phone and I was getting around 3h SOT with a 20-24h standby. Now after Oreo I'm getting max 2.5, under 3h SOT with the same 24h standby. I did a factory reset after upgrading via LG Bridge, and did a upgrade with LG UP and kdz V20a - no change at all. I suppose that the system is draining more battery than it should under use.View attachment 4526726
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When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Samsung Galaxy A71's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Phone lost 24% overnight. Culprit seems to be Facebook services, which in turn triggered Google services (for GPS location). I've disabled all the FB crap now and I'll see how it goes today...
Update 19/02 - I'm using Swipe Pro for Facebook and since then the battery seems to have settled. Getting really good battery life now with not too much standby drain.
The 730G is dreadful on my Xiaomi Mi Note 10 - which has an even bigger, ~5200mAh battery. It performs much worse than my OnePlus 7 Pro with 4000mAh. IMO the chipset (730/730G) is NOT power efficient.
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The 730G is dreadful on my Xiaomi Mi Note 10 - which has an even bigger, ~5200mAh battery. It performs much worse than my OnePlus 7 Pro with 4000mAh. IMO the chipset (730/730G) is NOT power efficient.
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Likely a device specific problem. Notebookcheck test power consumption in idle, sd 730/g phones are within the same range of comparable mid range SOCs. A71 in particular consumes pretty much the same as Pixel 3a for example (Snapdragon 670), more under load but it's quite a bit more powerful as well, consumes less than Galaxy A51 (Exynos 9611), way less than Huawei P30 lite (Kirin 710) and quite a bit less than Oneplus 7 pro as well for that matter. It uses the same modem as sd 710 and 712 so that's not a problem either.
I have 2-4% standby battery drain. But I checked all apps for background battery usage, I don't use facebook app. The only background apps I use are email, sense flip clock and I use greenify on top of that.
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I have about 15% battery drain in flight mode during the night. I feel this is a CATASTROPHY! What is causing this??? Is there a FREE app that can find what app is doing this? If I check in the settings, it says all apps has drained 0% during the night..
Hey, am thinking of buying an A71 and was wondering if you still have battery issues please?
I have wifi off and Bluetooth for watch, No FB . I get 1 or 2% loss mainly messenger lite , and my games I don't shut down .. with wifi on an average day its about 40% loss . that with wifi always on , games being played, youtube etc ... Since taking of FB I have noticed a huge difference, as before I was loosing 10/20 % at night and 70% in the day ... now I charge once every 2 days, which is not bad ...
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Phone lost 24% overnight. Culprit seems to be Facebook services, which in turn triggered Google services (for GPS location). I've disabled all the FB crap now and I'll see how it goes today...
Update 19/02 - I'm using Swipe Pro for Facebook and since then the battery seems to have settled. Getting really good battery life now with not too much standby drain.
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if U use Facebook Messenger , just remove it and test your phone again
if its not gonna helpful , just check what app drain your battery in setting
Same problem. Just got mine and lost 25% overnight. AOD is not even on. I disabled Facebook the instant I took it out of the box so it isn't that. Must be another app but not sure which. All the same apps I was using on my previous device and had no issues like this.
My battery life is horrible on my A71, I come home from work with 10%, on my P20 Pro which has a smaller battery is 65-70%. I have already used package disabler to disable the crap and its still happening. Going to be returning this phone.
Standby Drain on A71 Samsung
I have the phone for 1 week now and the battery I can say is performing very poor. Just got it to 100% then after 1 minute suddenly went to 99% and after 5 mins suddenly went to 98% just on standby mode. Can anyone please explain me why this is happening?
My device is always optimized (no background processes running). Every app (even the useful ones) I have put to sleep, which means I'm sacrificing on not getting the notifications when the internet is connected as those those apps are put to sleep but I did it just to put my battery on right track. Still no significant benefit.
Standby drain is the biggest issue I'm facing. Early 2% drops from 100% for no reason at all. At night time, I see at least 3% drop in 4 to 5 hours standby with wifi off and zero brightness and dark mode on and always-on display disabled, battery saving mode on and no app running in the background.
I'm having 1% battery drop every 10 mins for just reading comments on XDA developer or GSMArena with brightness to 0%, no extra app working in background, have put all the apps to sleep when not in use, no multimedia use, always-on display disabled, dark mode on, battery saving mode on. So, when I'm using Chrome, I'm only using Chrome. When I'm watching Youtube videos on app with 20% brightness and 60% volume, I'm having 1% drop every 7 to 8 mins. I see variability between each % drop. Like for example, sometimes it drops 1% at 4 mins interval and after that it will take 8 mins to drop a percent.
I have never been so confused in terms of battery life before. Someone from Samsung should at least come forward and explain to us what is going on.
From the reviews, the new updates doesn't have much to offer in terms of battery life. I haven't gotten the update yet.
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I have the phone for 1 week now and the battery I can say is performing very poor. Just got it to 100% then after 1 minute suddenly went to 99% and after 5 mins suddenly went to 98% just on standby mode. Can anyone please explain me why this is happening?
My device is always optimized (no background processes running). Every app (even the useful ones) I have put to sleep, which means I'm sacrificing on not getting the notifications when the internet is connected as those those apps are put to sleep but I did it just to put my battery on right track. Still no significant benefit.
Standby drain is the biggest issue I'm facing. Early 2% drops from 100% for no reason at all. At night time, I see at least 3% drop in 4 to 5 hours standby with wifi off and zero brightness and dark mode on and always-on display disabled, battery saving mode on and no app running in the background.
I'm having 1% battery drop every 10 mins for just reading comments on XDA developer or GSMArena with brightness to 0%, no extra app working in background, have put all the apps to sleep when not in use, no multimedia use, always-on display disabled, dark mode on, battery saving mode on. So, when I'm using Chrome, I'm only using Chrome. When I'm watching Youtube videos on app with 20% brightness and 60% volume, I'm having 1% drop every 7 to 8 mins. I see variability between each % drop. Like for example, sometimes it drops 1% at 4 mins interval and after that it will take 8 mins to drop a percent.
I have never been so confused in terms of battery life before. Someone from Samsung should at least come forward and explain to us what is going on.
From the reviews, the new updates doesn't have much to offer in terms of battery life. I haven't gotten the update yet.
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Had the same issue and no matter what I did couldn’t fix it. I turned this off turned that off, lowered this, reduced that. In the end I gave up and returned it. Shouldn’t be that much of an effort but then it always seems to be with Samsung. Huawei for example it’s just ready to go and works flawlessly out of the box. For a phone that had 4500mah battery it performs nothing like it. I bought the new iPhone SE, it’s battery is tiny 1800mah or something and it lasts longer than the A71.
47% overnight, with no use. It's my second A71. The first, the battery seemed normal. But I did not observe this detail carefully. I changed it the first time due to the infamous discoloration defect of the screen on a gray background with low brightness. Now the second, in addition to the same discoloration defect of the screen, the battery does not last! I went to sleep, the battery at 47%. Wifi off. Mobile data off. GPS off. Bluetooth turned off. Vibration off. Always on Display off. NFC Off. Sim card removed. Only Whatsapp running in the background. All other apps have been configured to be suspended in the background. Approximately 8 hours later, without any use, the battery has zeroed. I have a Samsung Galaxy A7 2017, which has 3 years of use and a 3600MAh battery worn by hundreds of charge cycles, and yet its battery is WELL better than the Galaxy A71, which has 4500MAh and a few days of use. If a new cell phone discharges at this rate, imagine after about 2 years of use. You will need to recharge every hour. Turning the adaptive battery on or off for me made no difference. During normal use, it discharges quickly, but the problem is much more evident at night, when the device is not in use. It seems to drain as much energy in idle mode as in normal use.
The quality of Samsung's products is dropping every day. 3 years ago, you could buy an intermediary made of metal and glass. Protection IP68, OIS and Gorilla Glass 4. Today, the devices that cost almost the same as the high end, are all made of plastic. Without IP68. Gorilla Glass 3 (obsolete technology from 2013), without OIS, and batteries that although bigger, last less. Quality decreases and price increases. It is unfortunate.
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The 730G is dreadful on my Xiaomi Mi Note 10 - which has an even bigger, ~5200mAh battery. It performs much worse than my OnePlus 7 Pro with 4000mAh. IMO the chipset (730/730G) is NOT power efficient.
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I have the 730G 8GB ram variant on my A71 (This is the standard in the PH) and my phone lasts for 2 days with social media and youtube usage. OST is between 6-7 hours so no issues with the chip itself, the phone software is probably not optimized properly with the Mi Note 10.
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I have the 730G 8GB ram variant on my A71 (This is the standard in the PH) and my phone lasts for 2 days with social media and youtube usage. OST is between 6-7 hours so no issues with the chip itself, the phone software is probably not optimized properly with the Mi Note 10.
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So what's happening to the other people in this thread? Is it a case of just too many bad apples (bad/broken devices) or... ?
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So what's happening to the other people in this thread? Is it a case of just too many bad apples (bad/broken devices) or... ?
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I think we need to put things into context first. None of them talked about what apps they had running, what settings they used, etc. Also, the other dude talked about the Huawei when that phone is known to aggressively kill apps very quickly in the background to save battery as a default. You can also do that with Sammy's but you need to activate it first.
As for my phone, it's set on its default out of the box-setting which is optimized if that at all matters.
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So what's happening to the other people in this thread? Is it a case of just too many bad apples (bad/broken devices) or... ?
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I think we also need to look at which carriers are having issues. I have an open line international variant and I've had none of the issues in this thread.
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iro_ori said:
Hey, am thinking of buying an A71 and was wondering if you still have battery issues please?
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If you can find an open line (not tied to any carrier) international variant, it doesn't have any issues.
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Phone lost 24% overnight. Culprit seems to be Facebook services, which in turn triggered Google services (for GPS location). I've disabled all the FB crap now and I'll see how it goes today...
Update 19/02 - I'm using Swipe Pro for Facebook and since then the battery seems to have settled. Getting really good battery life now with not too much standby drain.
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Mine was a bit power hungry at first 6 months ago
Now that i shut off and tried to kill all processes but active ones my battery is AMAZING!
So to compare I read your post last night at around 11 ish to midnight topped off the phone to 94%, and it dropped to 93% just before i went to sleep
killed all the processes with built in battery device care and also greenify.
woke up today at 8:30am and the batter was at 90% and dropped to 89% after a min of use.
So 3-4% over eight or nine hours.... I"m pretty happy with that.
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Samsung Galaxy M51 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Getting 17hrs of screen on time minimum on full charge for youtube 3hrs , clash of clans 2hrs and 45-50 mins of calls per day....last 3 days with my usage
Plus Whatsapp of 1 hrs approx per day
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Getting 17hrs of screen on time minimum on full charge for youtube 3hrs , clash of clans 2hrs and 45-50 mins of calls per day....last 3 days with my usage
Plus Whatsapp of 1 hrs approx per day
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SS or it didn't happen
I've had this phone 2 days and so far I've had 6 hours 31 minutes of screen time and I have 58 percent battery left. This is mostly YouTube, Web browsing, an hour of downloading apps from play store and a bit of emulation (ppsspp) am extremely impressed with the battery life on this phone.
Battery lasts more than 2 days at Medium Power Saving mode with moderate apps usage(no gaming but with youtube, magic fluid live wallpaper, whatsapp, browsing) and SOT approx 13+ hours in these two days. At the end of second day battery remains at 30-35%.
Has anybody here compared to the Moto G8 Power? Is the battery life even better?
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Has anybody here compared to the Moto G8 Power? Is the battery life even better?
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Exactly how do you think a cheap SD 665 11nm chip with a 5,000mAh battery will do against a higher tier SD 730g 8nm chip with a 7,000mAh battery?
Hmmmmm ?
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Exactly how do you think a cheap SD 665 11nm chip with a 5,000mAh battery will do against a higher tier SD 730g 8nm chip with a 7,000mAh battery?
Hmmmmm ?
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Could have answered like a normal person.
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Could have answered like a normal person.
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I did... Exactly how do you think they will compare?
@Devilmonkey27 No need for snark...
It was a genuine question, try to provide a genuine answer. Please reply properly or don't reply at all.
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@Devilmonkey27 No need for snark...
It was a genuine question, try to provide a genuine answer. Please reply properly or don't reply at all.
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So exactly how do you think a phone with half the specs will do?
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So exactly how do you think a phone with half the specs will do?
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You're missing the point. My post has nothing to do with that...
I'm simply asking, that if you have anything to add to a thread, please do so in a constructive manner without snark or attitude. It would have been very easy for you to convey your message without being rude or condescending.
If you've got more to discuss on this particular matter, please contact me through a private message (to keep the thread on topic).
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Exactly how do you think a cheap SD 665 11nm chip with a 5,000mAh battery will do against a higher tier SD 730g 8nm chip with a 7,000mAh battery?
Hmmmmm ?
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To come back on it, I have it since today and so far it's looking like the G8 Power has better or equal batterylife, standby drain is somehow bad on the M51, I checked all apps. Still I'll let the software settle and get through more cycles and check Gsam Battery Monitor in a couple of days again.
I honestly blame Samsung's other apps that aren't used and aren't able to be disabled or uninstalled.
Hi guys. I wanted to let you know my findings and provide some test results of galaxy m51 battery life. Firstly, I will outline what was my priority for that test. I wanted to check how long the phone can last mainly on google maps navigation with additional apps in the background. Also this test is a bit static so to speak but had no chance travelling for so many hours. That said I believe SOT was tested correctly for my planned usage. I guess in a real case scenario, I would need to do some more browsing and perhaps occasional screen switch offs during a break like filling up the fuel or stop to rest on a bicycle.
How I performed my test.
1. I did some initial installations, downloaded my apps and logged in to social apps such as FB, Spotify so they can work in the background, send notifications etc.
2. Once I completed the setup, I charged the very new phone to 100%. AccuBatter reported capacity was 6800mAh designed capacity not 7000mAh and estimated capacity 6700mAh.
3. CPU-Z reported Snapdragon 730 so I regret it is not 730G and honestly I do not know how to check with online stores as the packaging does not help with this. Also, I plan to test POCO F2 PRO 8gb ram/256gb version the same way and see how it goes since I get better hardware, but I like SD card slot on galaxy m51. Very useful when resetting the phone.
4. Set google maps navigation, lunched another app which uses GPS and LTE for maps showing speed cameras, road works or dangers which I use alongside with google maps. I also start shuffle play on Spotify to imitate streaming the music in my car or on the bike.
5. WiFi, LTE, GPS, Bluetooth, sync was enabled, blue light filter enabled.
6. Between 15-20 apps were in the background.
7. I unplugged the device from the mains.
8. Initial 15% discharge was with a WiFi connection with my router. Then switched of my router for overnight, left wifi enabled on Samsung but it had to continue downloading data over LTE such as Spotify music streaming. I also changed google map setting to day light only to avoid night backlight.
9. I went to bed? and in the morning there was still a lot of juice.
10. Around 20% discharge I took about 100 pictures most of them in burst mode to simulate a trip where you simply stop and take some snaps.
11. I stopped the test at 1% discharge and noticed no heating problem. The phone was cool during the test.
The overall SOT measured until 1% discharge was a staggering 17h 50m? Below you will find AccuBattery screenshots. At remaining 15% I had still over 2 h 42 m of use left.
This phone reminded me of good, old days of my Samsung galaxy s3 with a Zerolemon 7000mAh?
Now with my galaxy s7 deteriorating battery (current capacity just over 2300mAh) this is a great thing. For Galaxy s7 I also own a KiwiBird powerbank case of 5400mAh right from the beginning wich did its job when away from the mains, travelling etc.
I guess for a more accurate SOT, I would need to add some phone calls and browsing but even with I deduct 2h, it is still nearly 16 h of use. Like for me excellent. I also do not plan gaming.
On the downside of this phone it seems like my galaxy s7 takes a bit better picture, but it just might be my perception of selfies taken. Back camera is also just ok on a cloudy day. Ok but that is an offtopic.
I got my M51 yesterday and I am not fully sure yet about battery lifetime. I have charged it to 100% and about 8 hours and 2.5 hours secreen time later I am at about 90%.
Coming from my Moto Z Play I am not sure yet if I stay with the galaxy. The Mot Z Play with Incipio OffGrid Wireless Power Pack mod is about the same size and weight. Though provides less capacity (3300mAh phone + 2200mAh power mod) but battery lifetime still was bout 3-4 days usually.
The M51 is also getting considerably warmer during use.
I noticed also the Samsung battery saver with medium settings can reduce the CPU clock to max out at 70% which is handy. Not sure if there is any undervolting, underclocking tools as I think I would be perfectly fine with less performance - actually I was able to reach insane battery life on my old Galaxy P1000 with TricksterMod and custom undervolting back in the days.
I still believe better lifetime with the M51 would be possible bz reducing CPU clock and also with better screen brightness control. I noticed many times already that the M51 screen was too bright for me and having to reduce the slider to "minimum" position or very close to it. Also I noticed that the screen brightness slider is not linear at all. So on the last notch on the left side the screen really starts to dim properly while to the right there isn't much change. Also I like still to use automatic screen brightness adjustments but found the automatic adjustment often moves the brightness too high.
Also a possibility to limit the used screen area (e.g. display black bar on bottom/top) would save energy on the AMOLED screen while still providing more than enough screen space.
EDIT: One-Handed mode sort of provides this feature, but not exactly what I was looking for (like cinema-bars on top and bottom and no prominent "one-handed-mode" title.
I will continue to use the M51 for a couple of charges and decide if I am going to trade it again. The phone itself is performing well, supporting VoLTE WiFi calling but seems to lack carrier aggregation for no apparent reason. I strongly dislike the slippery, fingerprint-attracting, cheap-looking plastic backside of it.
I also hate that everywhere you tap it tries to sign up to a Samsung account. Also replaced the launcher with Nova launcher.
Below is the answer to almost all above useless posts
Battery life tests - GSMArena.com
Why I say useless ?
Simply. SOT will be completely different when you read ebooks compared when you watch movies or browse Internet.
Gsmarena does standarised comparison
I am fan of long life battery phones. I used "king" Lenovo P2 for over 2 years. M51 is better.
I'm at the fourth cycle of charge.. and got 15 hrs so far.. have done a heavy idb debloating
maby it will increase over more charging cycles?
i m getting about 20h sot normal usage
facebook lite, browser , youtube , aliexpress and playing alphalt extreme 30 min
wifi and dark mode on
brightness between 10-40 %
data off
location off
this phone have a very good battery