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Where to pre-order 820?

I want to pre-order the new S7 Edge but im from europe and I want the SD820 chip. Mostly because of it's easier to mod so developers will give more love to that.
Does anyone know where I can do this?

Makes no sense at all. If a phone ever cried out for non-stock to be avoided, it's this. You will lose all Samsung features like Edge and the camera features and quality will be s**t in comparison. If you're bothered about running AOSP or CM this isn't the phone for you regardless of what chip set it has in it.

Beefheart said:
Makes no sense at all. If a phone ever cried out for non-stock to be avoided, it's this. You will lose all Samsung features like Edge and the camera features and quality will be s**t in comparison. If you're bothered about running AOSP or CM this isn't the phone for you regardless of what chip set it has in it.
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Not completely true. To be fair he just said modding. Not flashing Stock (AOSP) ROMs, Kernels, etc...
An "clean" TW ROM is always welcomed and usually the best of both worlds.

Except clean stock doesn't require an open source chip set. It's just as easy to debloat stock on Exynos as it is on Snapdragon.

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Except clean stock doesn't require an open source chip set. It's just as easy to debloat stock on Exynos as it is on Snapdragon.
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Eh... Got me there.

Beefheart said:
Makes no sense at all. If a phone ever cried out for non-stock to be avoided, it's this. You will lose all Samsung features like Edge and the camera features and quality will be s**t in comparison. If you're bothered about running AOSP or CM this isn't the phone for you regardless of what chip set it has in it.
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I agree with you - for me I wouldn't spend a ton of money on a phone only to lose many of the special features - but at the end of the day, it's his call what he does with his phone - and if he prefers running a clean AOSP rom or even just modded touch wiz, it;s his call - regardless - it probably won't be easy for him to find an unlocked snapdragon model - at least not early on - maybe after it's been out for a while...

I believe the Verizon version would be the best one to get to support most of the spectrum around the world, but Verizon will lock that bootloader. I bought the T-Mobile version outright and will probably get mine unlocked a couple days after I get it(paid outright and meet requirements)
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If anyone has an answer to the OP's question I am curious also

After the 810 I dont want a snapdragon ever again. Glad my country is getting the 8890.

At echoe they already said they will develop for thz exynos variant cuz most part of their theam is from europe so thats asewome! [emoji3]
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@Beefheart Just to clarify:
With regards to the S7 Edge, its best to leave it untouched with regards to custom roms & kernels otherwise "Edge" features will be lost ?

SlyUK said:
@Beefheart Just to clarify:
With regards to the S7 Edge, its best to leave it untouched with regards to custom roms & kernels otherwise "Edge" features will be lost ?
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Yes. The edge features, as far as I'm aware, require Samsung libraries, which are closed source and can't be used outside of stock Touchwiz roms. It's for the same reason S-Pen features in non-stock roms on the Note series of devices can't be used and require third party software (SPenCommand for example).

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Yes. The edge features, as far as I'm aware, require Samsung libraries, which are closed source and can't be used outside of stock Touchwiz roms. It's for the same reason S-Pen features in non-stock roms on the Note series of devices can't be used and require third party software (SPenCommand for example).
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Would that be the case also with a custom rom that was based on the Stock rom but was "debloated" ?

mocsab said:
I agree with you - for me I wouldn't spend a ton of money on a phone only to lose many of the special features - but at the end of the day, it's his call what he does with his phone - and if he prefers running a clean AOSP rom or even just modded touch wiz, it;s his call - regardless - it probably won't be easy for him to find an unlocked snapdragon model - at least not early on - maybe after it's been out for a while...
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Of course it's his money and his choice, he can buy an S7 Edge and use it as a paperweight if he wishes to. But this is a forum for discussion, and I'm simply pointing out that, in my opinion with 6 years experience of using and modifying Android devices, it wouldn't make any sense to buy an S7 Edge if he wants to use non-stock roms. It defeats the object of paying the premium on a device like this in the first place.
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Would that be the case also with a custom rom that was based on the Stock rom but was "debloated" ?
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Just to clarify, for me a "custom rom" means non-stock. Perhaps not entirely accurate but that is how I've always viewed the phrase. But to answer your question, no. That would be a debloated and minimised stock rom, and any desired features of Samsung vanilla stock could be included as the required libraries are still intact.

Beefheart said:
Of course it's his money and his choice, he can buy an S7 Edge and use it as a paperweight if he wishes to. But this is a forum for discussion, and I'm simply pointing out that, in my opinion with 6 years experience of using and modifying Android devices, it wouldn't make any sense to buy an S7 Edge if he wants to use non-stock roms. It defeats the object of paying the premium on a device like this in the first place.
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Of course you are right, but he is not alone - there are lots of people who do what he plans to do no matter what we think ..and despite the many advantages and tools that are built into one of these phones, a high end phone with the kind of quality that is built into an S7 or Note 5 or whatever - is still an amazing phone when it uses a different system - AOSP or whatever - so I don't fault yuo for making your point - but it is likely that in his and many other cases it falls on deaf ears

Beefheart said:
Of course it's his money and his choice, he can buy an S7 Edge and use it as a paperweight if he wishes to. But this is a forum for discussion, and I'm simply pointing out that, in my opinion with 6 years experience of using and modifying Android devices, it wouldn't make any sense to buy an S7 Edge if he wants to use non-stock roms. It defeats the object of paying the premium on a device like this in the first place.
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Just to clarify, for me a "custom rom" means non-stock. Perhaps not entirely accurate but that is how I've always viewed the phrase. But to answer your question, no. That would be a debloated and minimised stock rom, and any desired features of Samsung vanilla stock could be included as the required libraries are still intact.
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I wasn't quite sure of the terminology to use for a slimmed down, debloated rom based on the official stock rom, so used the word custom to be on the safe side. Thanks for answering that, gives reassurance.

SlyUK said:
I wasn't quite sure of the terminology to use for a slimmed down, debloated rom based on the official stock rom, so used the word custom to be on the safe side. Thanks for answering that, gives reassurance.
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It's worth noting that, to install such a rom, the knox flag would have to be tripped. On Samsung Marshmallow, the only way to avoid tripping knox when installing a new build is to use Odin, which can only be used to install vanilla stock. And to use tools like FlashFire to install a build, you need to be rooted, a process which in itself trips the knox flag so you may as well install TWRP or CWM and install via a zip in recovery.

im also one of a guy waiting for S7edge with S820 from outside of US so i felt the pain and confusion of the way Sammy doing. As one of a guy responded in Reddit chat is to start ordering UNLOCKED SIM Samsung S7 from ebay would be the easiest and fastest option...
Below is the one that I am watching closely. As it said Pre-order, I am a bit afraid of the RISK of ordering a phone that cost >1000$ without seeing actual unlocked & S820 phone as they mention.
[EDIT: can't put links due to lower posts count] googled this eBay item number:281944393668
Here is some other options
to Confirm: you might have to wait for unlocked version from Samsung to released in US since all the US carriers will delay the unlocked version so that mostly can able to attract customer by offering them insensitive to stay in their network.
to Confirm: As far as I knew, US is the ONLY country which S7 variant will come with S820. The rest will ONLY get Exynos version in it with Dual SIMs supported.
to Confirm: As far as I found online is that there is no unique model number which will be the UNLOCKED version of S7 is surfaced in Internet. All the model numbers of US variant are for tied with each US Carriers. So it is possible that US will never get unlocked version of S7 with S820.
to Confirm: some people said they can ask their US carrier to unlock their locked S7 after a period of time using.

ted_O_o said:
im also one of a guy waiting for S7edge with S820 from outside of US so i felt the pain and confusion of the way Sammy doing. As one of a guy responded in Reddit chat is to start ordering UNLOCKED SIM Samsung S7 from ebay would be the easiest and fastest option...
Below is the one that I am watching closely. As it said Pre-order, I am a bit afraid of the RISK of ordering a phone that cost >1000$ without seeing actual unlocked & S820 phone as they mention.
[EDIT: can't put links due to lower posts count] googled this eBay item number:281944393668
Here is some other options
to Confirm: you might have to wait for unlocked version from Samsung to released in US since all the US carriers will delay the unlocked version so that mostly can able to attract customer by offering them insensitive to stay in their network.
to Confirm: As far as I knew, US is the ONLY country which S7 variant will come with S820. The rest will ONLY get Exynos version in it with Dual SIMs supported.
to Confirm: As far as I found online is that there is no unique model number which will be the UNLOCKED version of S7 is surfaced in Internet. All the model numbers of US variant are for tied with each US Carriers. So it is possible that US will never get unlocked version of S7 with S820.
to Confirm: some people said they can ask their US carrier to unlock their locked S7 after a period of time using.
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You are referring to this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-UNLOCKE...393668?hash=item41a53207c4:g:NhIAAOSwFNZWzWSU

No was not really thinking about a new rom if disabling touchwiz is possible. I had my mind more into rooting and xposed.

OP3T in most recent versions (4.1.3 and beta5) is 3 levels of security patches behind

OP3T still is on the March 1st security patch (2017-03-01), and is missing the fixes corresponding to 2017-03-05 patch (8 critical items of which at least 6 should be applicable to OP3T) and both 2017-04-01 and 2017-04-05 security patch levels (at least 1 huge critical item plus a lot of slightly smaller ones).
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2017-03-01
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2017-04-01

And?

That's nice, why tell us? Report it to OnePlus?...or use a custom rom where all the latest security updates are in place.

I don't really care because i think the phone is awesome, the price was awesome and the constant updates is absolutely amazing. But it is a bit bizarre i get 2 updates a month on the beta yet they can't for some reason include the latest security patches. Like why do something so well then slightly ruin it?

djsubterrain said:
That's nice, why tell us? Report it to OnePlus?...or use a custom rom where all the latest security updates are in place.
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People should flash custom ROMs to get security updates? That's the most idiotic thing i've read today. Well done.

DirkGently said:
People should flash custom ROMs to get security updates? That's the most idiotic thing i've read today. Well done.
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Yeah, obviously, much more sensible to direct a complaint about the stock rom to people who have nothing to do with OnePlus and can do nothing to solve it.

EuEra said:
I don't really care because i think the phone is awesome, the price was awesome and the constant updates is absolutely amazing. But it is a bit bizarre i get 2 updates a month on the beta yet they can't for some reason include the latest security patches. Like why do something so well then slightly ruin it?
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Security updates bring along bugs. That's why security patches aren't included in updates so often.
And do you really think someone is exploiting your data through these exploits.
Most exploits don't even concern anything remotely dangerous to data.
Even apps on playstore tend to theft data more then any exploit did till date.

DirkGently said:
People should flash custom ROMs to get security updates? That's the most idiotic thing i've read today. Well done.
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thats true. what was wrong with that?

DirkGently said:
People should flash custom ROMs to get security updates? That's the most idiotic thing i've read today. Well done.
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Okay. I'll fix the official roms for you. Happy now?

Just use a custom ROM OOS sucks anyways.

se7ensde said:
Just use a custom ROM OOS sucks anyways.
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Oxygen OS is the best ROM/OS I've ever used,
And was the main reason for me to choose a OP3T over others phones.
Sadly,nowadays custum roms brings more harm than good.

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Just use a custom ROM OOS sucks anyways.
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Best stock ROM out there, honestly. Closest to AOSP as you're going to find.

Aosp is boring. And as soon as oneplus 5 releases you can say bye bye to oos updates for the 3 and 3t. Better start getting used to custom ROMs if you want any future for your device. And oneplus has already stopped updating security patches. Custom ROM devs are much better with keeping up with everything. OOS doesn't even have 7.1.2 yet and I always see OOS users complaining about not having this or that feature or how they can get it. Which most custom roms have all of the features that everyone wants right of the bat. And if you really want a good aosp experience there are plenty of OOS based roms with lots of extra goodies out there. Like aosp extended or freedomos plus lots of others. OOS is basically just base bones with features that aren't even that useful and if you try to say that you can switch to dark mode and change accents then I say substratum. Which almost every ROM out there supports oms now. The way I see it is people who stick to stock are afraid of changing and tinkering with their device or just don't know how to. Bottom line is OOS is terrible best rom for this phone is resurrection remix hands down.
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Midomad said:
Oxygen OS is the best ROM/OS I've ever used,
And was the main reason for me to choose a OP3T over others phones.
Custum roms brings more harm than good.
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custom ROM brings no harm. I always use custom roms and have no problems. You just don't know what your doing.

se7ensde said:
. You just don't know what your doing.
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i used custom roms before the day you got you're first android phone and joined XDA.
Android gained maturity since marshmallow,
OOS has all the details missing from Stock android(wich is the best)

So you would like to believe. I know what I'm doing and have been modding since way before marshmallow. Your the type to complain to everyone here at xda when something goes wrong. I just fix out on my own. OOS sucks and that's that of you can't use a custom rom without problems then that's your not knowing what your doing.

Midomad said:
i used custom roms before the day you got you're first android phone and joined XDA.
Android gained maturity since marshmallow,
OOS has all the details missing from Stock android(wich is the best)
Customs roms are s**t,good luck with what your doing.
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I'd usually agree with you about custom Roms but RR is mature and truly is excellent and as good as if not better than OOS and is on April security with 7.1.2.

No doubt the custom ROMs are probably solid. But stock 7.1.1 oos (+beta) is the best stock ROM I have ever used. Fast, smooth, very close to asop with some nice tweaks. It matches the hardware nicely. It really should have up to date security patches. Maybe mention it to the couple of OnePlus guys on the forums, like @Funk Wizard @innocentwoolf
I'm guessing those guys are linked to OP, just from what I have seen, not for sure. Sorry if I'm mistaken guys.

As Android is further refined, there are fewer and fewer reasons to use a custom ROM for most users,custom ROMs will always be relevant to entry-level/midrange smartphone users, or those who still use older devices, that aren't receiving official updates from OEMs anymore.

Come on guys, the dude was escalating / highlighting something which is valid. but yeah, it should be escalated to OnePlus instead. Anyway, lets not be toxic to one another

override182 said:
Come on guys, the dude was escalating / highlighting something which is valid. but yeah, it should be escalated to OnePlus instead. Anyway, lets not be toxic to one another
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Already done via user feedback app [emoji111]

Mate 9 to get Oreo soon

https://www.phonearena.com/news/Huawei-Mate-9-to-receive-Android-8.0-Oreo-update-soon_id98317

Cool. Maybe we will see an update by the end of the year though I expect it to come after Xmas.

Yes, and which version will get it first? Chinese, European, or US? Anyone want to hazard a guess?

Typically, the Chinese get it first, then India, middle east, Mars, Pluto, Alpha Centuri, THEN the Usa MIGHT get it.
Personally, it really doesn't matter to me. Marshmellow was stable on my Mate8, as was Nougat. Nougat is stable
on my Mate9. Other than security patches, it really doesn't matter...to me.

The new features are not that important. Only thing that's be really great to have is the filling API so you can use password managers easily.

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Only thing that's be really great to have is the filling API so you can use password managers easily.
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Agreed.
Sent from my MHA-L29 using XDA Labs

I'm really excited about Oreo's tunable doze. Well, assuming Huawei release enough sources to let us take any advantage of it. Standby time on this phone is not great. I have maxed out LTE signal, I live across the street from my cell tower and it still loses 5 to 8% overnight. Greenify was no help, nothing's running, no abnormal wakelocks etc. It's just bad apparently. I can only imagine how bad it is for anybody that has less than perfect signal where they live.

Strange I lose 1 to 2 percent overnight

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Strange I lose 1 to 2 percent overnight
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benjmiester said:
I'm really excited about Oreo's tunable doze. Well, assuming Huawei release enough sources to let us take any advantage of it. Standby time on this phone is not great. I have maxed out LTE signal, I live across the street from my cell tower and it still loses 5 to 8% overnight. Greenify was no help, nothing's running, no abnormal wakelocks etc. It's just bad apparently. I can only imagine how bad it is for anybody that has less than perfect signal where they live.
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A little off topic but battery usage on the Mate 9 is odd for me. Here is what I noticed:
If I unplug my phone then dont use it all overnight, my phone goes into deep sleep for 97% of the time as reported by BBS. This results in a battery drain of about 0.2-0.3%/hour.
Even if I just turn on my phone for 1 sec to see the time, and do not use it at all for the next few hours, my phone never gets back to as high a deep sleep figure. Wake time with screen off dramatically increases and my battery drain goes to about 1-1.5% per hour.
If I use GPS, battery drain is really really bad.
All that being said, I am hopeful Oreo and EMUI 5.X or 6.X improves on battery life.

I use appops ... To turn off lots of apks like messenger , fb , I deny lots of the permissions and I still get 3 days easily on battery life
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I have seen a lot of reports of bugs with Oreo - for google and nexus devices, so I hope that Huawei's implementation of Oreo is a version that has those bugs - fixed.

US version will be getting oreo
p51d007 said:
Typically, the Chinese get it first, then India, middle east, Mars, Pluto, Alpha Centuri, THEN the Usa MIGHT get it.
Personally, it really doesn't matter to me. Marshmellow was stable on my Mate8, as was Nougat. Nougat is stable
on my Mate9. Other than security patches, it really doesn't matter...to me.
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The US version of the phone will be getting oreo, no "might" to it supposed to be sometime in December, they already had a beta for the US version (long closed) and that build is available on ff (MHA-L29 8.0.0.321 (C567)). I installed it and so far it's just as stable as nougat, not any substantial changes except for the kernel jump to 4.4 from 4.2 and the October 5 security update. Huawei Oreo update includes project treble which will make further updates easier and hopefully more timely.
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I have seen a lot of reports of bugs with Oreo - for google and nexus devices, so I hope that Huawei's implementation of Oreo is a version that has those bugs - fixed.
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I haven't seen any real bugs so far, most of the "bugs" reported with Google and Nexus devices had more to do with that particular devices HAL than the Android framework itself, if tried pretty much all the features so far and haven't noticed any issues, especially this that have been reported by Google pixel and Nexus users. IMHO since Huawei manufactures their own silicon and writes their own HAL code they are probably a little better equipped than companies (lg and htc) that just are relying on closed binaries and documentation from SoC suppliers.

lol tought it was a new thread

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The US version of the phone will be getting oreo, no "might" to it supposed to be sometime in December, they already had a beta for the US version (long closed) and that build is available on ff (MHA-L29 8.0.0.321 (C567)). I installed it and so far it's just as stable as nougat, not any substantial changes except for the kernel jump to 4.4 from 4.2 and the October 5 security update. Huawei Oreo update includes project treble which will make further updates easier and hopefully more timely.
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I haven't seen any real bugs so far, most of the "bugs" reported with Google and Nexus devices had more to do with that particular devices HAL than the Android framework itself, if tried pretty much all the features so far and haven't noticed any issues, especially this that have been reported by Google pixel and Nexus users. IMHO since Huawei manufactures their own silicon and writes their own HAL code they are probably a little better equipped than companies (lg and htc) that just are relying on closed binaries and documentation from SoC suppliers.
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Same here...the "321" is as stable for me, as 7 was.

p51d007 said:
Same here...the "321" is as stable for me, as 7 was.
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Are root and xposed working in Oreo? And are there any custom rom for Oreo now? Thanks!

lemonade747 said:
Are root and xposed working in Oreo? And are there any custom rom for Oreo now? Thanks!
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I haven't rooted in years. Last phone I rooted was a Galaxy Note. After the Mate2, 8,9 I've never had the need to root.

No custom Oreo ROMs
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Are root and xposed working in Oreo? And are there any custom rom for Oreo now? Thanks!
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As far as I know there isn't a root yet for the Oreo ROM, no Xposed either. The mate 9 is on the list to get lineage 15 which is Oreo, but there is really no telling how long it will take to get a usable ROM from them.

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As far as I know there isn't a root yet for the Oreo ROM, no Xposed either. The mate 9 is on the list to get lineage 15 which is Oreo, but there is really no telling how long it will take to get a usable ROM from them.
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There is for for Mate 9 Oreo.

p51d007 said:
I haven't rooted in years. Last phone I rooted was a Galaxy Note. After the Mate2, 8,9 I've never had the need to root.
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what about the ads in apps and everywhere else?

Use dns66 - works perfect for me

Utterly Confused About the S10+ Firmware Updates

I have the AT&T branded version of the S10+ , meaning I bought it from AT&T. So if you are on another carrier or have the unlocked version, this post might be of no use to you!
I have had the phone a little over a month. Since I have had it, it has gone thru several firmware updates that are confusing the hell out of me. Here's my trek log:
Phone came with firmware SD3.
About a week later it updated itself to SD7.
Some weeks later SD9 came around (I think).
I noticed the security level patch was being updated to a semi current month and that is it aside somewhere I read something about night mode on the camera (which I have) and also found a new QR scanner icon.
After that, it updates to firmware SR7 or S something 7 (I forgot the middle letter).
I was on this firmware until yesterday when it updated to SG8. I was on SG8 about 5 minutes before it said another update was available. What gives!?!? So many updates! AHHHHHH!
I read that the Sxx update (I forgot the middle letter and end number this time) just fixes some bug about the lock screen. I wasn't even experiencing said bug! Why do I need the update!?!?
So this morning after connecting to my wifi last night my phone yet again updated itself, (even though I kept telling it to remind me later) this time to SGB.
I am freaking confused Mr. Bigglesworth!
Can someone help and enlighten me here? I come from the S3 and S4 days of the galaxy line, back then only serious updates (like the patch for stage fright) and OS updates rolled out. These new seemingly random and nonessential updates are very new to me.

I'm not on AT&T and people with Samsung phones almost invariably complain about not receiving updates so your complaint is novel.
SGB is the latest Samsung build--unlocked S10+ phones got it this week (after several months with no updates) and Verizon got that update last week.
Your many intermediate updates might be coming from AT&T and be updating or fixing the carrier specific stuff they added to your phone.

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so the interesting part of the firmware's are the last 6 letters on my phone those are U3ASG8.
the u3a part is the version of the bootloader you are on (this is not downgradable), so I am on the 3rd version of the bootloader.
the last 6 letters in my case SG8
-S is for the year, so in 2020 it will become T
-G is for the month (A for January, B for February and so on)
-8is the build number (they test internally find any problems then increase the version...)
if you want to find what the updates improved check
http://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-G975F/LUX/doc.html
just change SM-G975F to your model and change LUX to your region. This is everything they say in the changelog for the update on the phone too. If it repeats the same stuff as last month that most of the time means that it was just a security update.

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I'm not on AT&T and people with Samsung phones almost invariably complain about not receiving updates so your complaint is novel.
SGB is the latest Samsung build--unlocked S10+ phones got it this week (after several months with no updates) and Verizon got that update last week.
Your many intermediate updates might be coming from AT&T and be updating or fixing the carrier specific stuff they added to your phone.
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Hey that makes sense! Thanks!
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so the interesting part of the firmware's are the last 6 letters on my phone those are U3ASG8.
the u3a part is the version of the bootloader you are on (this is not downgradable), so I am on the 3rd version of the bootloader.
the last 6 letters in my case SG8
-S is for the year, so in 2020 it will become T
-G is for the month (A for January, B for February and so on)
-8is the build number (they test internally find any problems then increase the version...)
if you want to find what the updates improved check
http://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-G975F/LUX/doc.html
just change SM-G975F to your model and change LUX to your region. This is everything they say in the changelog for the update on the phone too. If it repeats the same stuff as last month that most of the time means that it was just a security update.
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You know I did read somewhere that the firmware letters and numbers meant the bootloader, month, year, and build number. I didn't know I could check a site to see what the updates did/do, thanks for the post but I tried changing the lux to US and 975F to 975U but it came back with a 404 error.

Android 10 Release

Anyone seen this update yet?
https://www.gizchina.com/2020/03/13/motorola-moto-z4-gets-android-10-update-its-last-major-update/

Unfortunately, not - even although I have retail version.
I hope somebody who is getting it will backup the downloaded OTA image and will share it here.

I haven't gotten it either & I'm on Retail Z4 USA

Retail Z4 here, haven't seen the update yet

i have unlocked phone from best buy, i do not have update yet. wanting to play around with phone, made some roms for my old phones, bought this phone with intent on doing the same, hoping after this rolls out that all our dev fun can begin i bet there will be some twrp work after 10 rolls out

I suppose it will last approx. 2 weeks till definite roll-out. Why? I was the first one who got the December uprade patch (which completely messed up all my system). Nobody else said he had it - only me. Everybody was waiting, till finally, approx. 2 weeks later, everybody got it.
I think, this time, it's the same. Moto selects a few devices for pre-testing an upgrade before fully rolling it out. Obviously, by coincidence, because this time, I'm not among the lucky ones.
These are only some ideas from my part as I can not imagine that this time, it's fake news again, because this time there already exists a concrete software version number.

My phone is from Best Buy Unlocked as well. Still stuck at PPFS29-105-75-4.

No yet!

Finaly! I got the update

Yeeeaaahhh, it's there!!!
//Edit: @airecomprimido, you were first - took too long to upload my screenshot ?

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Just got prompted to install Android 10 but I don't have Wi-Fi so I will have to wait till Starbucks reopens.

here is mine

Installed...

I have reestarted the phone like 4 times, and takes to much time! The reestart is very slow, please try to comment the improves and issues of this updare

I really like it. Full dark theme, accent colour settings, status bar icons, more and better navigation modes, ... Great! And I have the impression that it's much more smooth than Pie.

Try to reestart and battery my friend!

I don't care about restart time because I don't reboot my device quite often. But battery life is one of the most important things ever. Will keep an eye on that - have to observe that for some days.

downloading now hope that means some twrp soon

I got the update, but it won't install with my magisk setup- does anyone have the full download archive? Wish Moto had a download site for firmware