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Oxygen OS review by some dude

Hello everyone.
The much awaited OS that no one really waited for is finally here. If you don't know what I'm talking about then let me clue you in. OxygenOS is known for being developed by Oneplus... Isn't that it?... Ohh yeah its also known for being closed source, featureless, 'not wait worthy', over hyped, bugged and not being great.
It will seem sooo good when you compare it with the ROMs by other OEMs (or maybe when you ask some noobs) but when you are used to the wonderful development by the Oneplus community its just like any other non-advertised ROM that no one uses .
Beware : Some people may tell you to appreciate the effort and to accept it for what it is but how can you do that when your daily driver is a build by the Blisspop Team or Teamsek or Mahdi (just to name a few). They may also tell you to install other mods and Xposed for customizing the ROM but isn't that settling?
Oneplus' logo is Never Settle but OxygenOS didn't even get me startled. The only glamorous things about the OS were the hyped PA developers team and making people wait so that they want it more and also how can you forget the full Gapps package that people call bloat.
The OS is pretty normal and should had been released a long time ago and of course they apologized for that and happily gave away 5 phones thus again winning sympathy points. (Yay for Oneplus).
I don't intend to criticize Oneplus. I love their product and hence gave my money to them . I also have confidence in their future products. What I and lot of other folks hate is over hyping things that aren't that great and then making people believe that it is.
And yes obviously i will keep OxygenOS as one of those ROMs in MultiROM which i will nevver use.
Thanks for reading and do voice your opinion.
Something magical happened on 4/4/15. One of the best ROMs i.e. OxygenOS was released on that day. The following features make it the bomb :-
1) Clean and simple UI and also lightweight at 715 MB
2) Gives the pleasure of owning a stock Nexus device and making people forget why they bought the Oneplus One
3) Gives some people the ability to develop it even though its not open source
4) Full Gapps package pre-included so that nobody has to go through the trouble of flashing the Mini Gapps package.
5) Was stress tested and OTAed for 4-5 months and thus is very stable and gives great performance and also OTA
6)And the best thing is that these 6 features are enough to make it the best.
Do you love OxygenOS? Then share your good experiences below.

It pretty sums it up what a lot of peoples(and i) think!Great writing overall!

dragoi90 said:
It pretty sums it up what a lot of peoples(and i) think!Great writing overall!
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I was just really surprised to see all the good reviews that OxygenOS got.

A lot of noobies out there my friend! [emoji14]

some people like a stock Google experience without all the tweaks CM did. You're basically saying all Nexus and Google Experience devices suck because they have the same OxygenOS feel too. To each their own.
I will say that I do miss some features that CM11S had but I do like the ability to change my phone with tweaks how I want it too.
btw, not a noob.

Actually. I've used pretty much all the other ones including Bliss and Temasek. I settled on Temasek as it was the most stable, best battery life and great performance. I have been using it for about three months now. I will say that Oxygen so far has exceeded my expectation and has been great. I will stick to it for now and see how it functions as a daily driver. However, so far I'm impressed.

Oxygen could be a great base for developers like clean Nexus. Would be awesome.

Meuuks13 said:
And yes obviously i will keep OxygenOS as one of those ROMs in MultiROM which i will nevver use.
Thanks for reading and do voice your opinion.
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The install on this ROM is very quick. It's a light ROM, and I like that. It is quick with page to page changes and app loading. It is not a power-house ROM. If I want to have niceties on a ROM, I will install what I wish. This ROM feels more fluid than the stock KK ROMs. I plan on testing it out, as all of the functions are working for me just fine. It is not a feature laden ROM, never the less, it may fit for some.
OP, given the clear dislike you have for the company's lack of timely follow through with releases and the hype... I get that portion of your post and I agree. What I don't understand is why "keep OxygenOS as one of those ROMs in MultiROM which i will nevver use"? It sounds more like poetic expression than sensical. Free yourself, Never Settle.

Thunderbolt said:
Oxygen could be a great base for developers like clean Nexus. Would be awesome.
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Too bad it's not open source. Which also means I'll never use it, by the way.

Thunderbolt said:
Oxygen could be a great base for developers like clean Nexus. Would be awesome.
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OxygenOS is not open sourced.

I'm only going to say this once. Either keep to the topic at hand, or don't say anything at all. We can do without the flaming & name calling. The next instance I catch of either in this thread will call for an infraction to the offending party/parties, and I will close this thread.
Magnum_Enforcer
FSM

Its stable that is good enough for me....
But when its about companys own os then there must be like touchwiz sense miui then u will stand in competition between general public which dont know about boot loader recovery root.
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Just like any other OEM they dony open sourced their own work. Oxy is more like Nexus type.

DrearierJester1 said:
Just like any other OEM they dony open sourced their own work. Oxy is more like Nexus type.
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Except that the Nexus stock roms are practically open source (or at least a large part of them are) plus a few closed source add-ons, just like CM11S.

caronaakk said:
Its stable that is good enough for me....
But when its about companys own os then there must be like touchwiz sense miui then u will stand in competition between general public which dont know about boot loader recovery root.
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Its not stable, there are about 7 bugs.

gondsman said:
Except that the Nexus stock roms are practically open source (or at least a large part of them are) plus a few closed source add-ons, just like CM11S.
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Right at the point.

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Its not stable, there are about 7 bugs.
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Bugs don't make a ROM unstable. It's unstable when there are problems like random reboots and FCs caused by the ROM itself, not user setup or installed apps. OxygenOS is in fact stable.

CafeKampuchia said:
Bugs don't make a ROM unstable. It's unstable when there are problems like random reboots and FCs caused by the ROM itself, not user setup or installed apps. OxygenOS is in fact stable.
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Bugs don't make a ROM unstable? Last time i checked random reboots and FCs were caused by bugs.

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Bugs don't make a ROM unstable? Last time i checked random reboots and FCs are caused by bugs.
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Is that what you were talking about in the OP? If so, then it's not clear. What is clear is that OxygenOS runs fast, smooth and stable for most people, but it has minor bugs that don't cause instability, and it's feature list is short.

CafeKampuchia said:
Is that what you were talking about in the OP? If so, then it's not clear. What is clear is that OxygenOS runs fast, smooth and stable for most people, but it has minor bugs that don't cause instability, and it's feature list is short.
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In other words its just an ordinary ROM which was hyped for greatness There are a lot of simple ROMs like this and adding one more doesn't help

Question

I am about to get a Axon 7 within a week and I am curious to know which rom(s) are useful for everyday usage aka daily driver rom.
There are tons and I am all confused about the matter.

The custom ROM support for this device isn't great, but it does have all the popular ones like ResurrectionRemix, LineageOS, AICP and AospExtended. My favourite at the moment is DARK ROM which is basically LOS 14.1 with some additional modifications; like the UI sounds from the Google Pixel, OMS theming support and unlocking after boot without PIN number. Once LOS 15 (8.0 Oreo) is released I will switch to that and use it as my daily-driver until the other custom ROM's also upgrade to Oreo.

P650SE said:
The custom ROM support for this device isn't great, but it does have all the popular ones like ResurrectionRemix, LineageOS, AICP and AospExtended. My favourite at the moment is DARK ROM which is basically LOS 14.1 with some additional modifications; like the UI sounds from the Google Pixel, OMS theming support and unlocking after boot without PIN number. Once LOS 15 (8.0 Oreo) is released I will switch to that and use it as my daily-driver until the other custom ROM's also upgrade to Oreo.
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Thank you for the reply.
It's a bit of shame that the support isn't there since this phone is really amazing.
Out of all roms you mentioned which one is the most stable and less "bloated" one?
I have no problem with stock but there is some issues that I am wondering if custom roms have fixed, like dropped calls(think it's software that messes with signal, never happened before) and random low volume.

cirnocirno said:
Thank you for the reply.
It's a bit of shame that the support isn't there since this phone is really amazing.
Out of all roms you mentioned which one is the most stable and less "bloated" one?
I have no problem with stock but there is some issues that I am wondering if custom roms have fixed, like dropped calls(think it's software that messes with signal, never happened before) and random low volume.
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Yeah, it's unfortunate that there isn't better support for this phone. I didn't realise when I bought it about a month ago that the situation was like this. Even my ZUK Z2 had a better community behind it which surprises me.
The most stable and least bloated ROM is definitely LineageOS, as that's the closest you can get to stock Android in the form of custom ROM's with just a few additional mods. DARK ROM as I mentioned before is just LineageOS with some extra enhancements. Both are stable but if you're after an officially-supported ROM with proper OTA updates, then LineageOS is the best option. I would recommend flashing Magisk v14.0 afterwards if you're interested in root support.

Over the last few months, ROM teams began feature locking and doing final Nougat builds to start work on Oreo. This period always leaves us dry for a time being. I've seen dry spells like this since KitKat. I anticipate a wave of ROMs in the coming months. Until then, there is a fine selection of ROMs to choose from. I do agree that the selection is a bit sparse compared to other phones. There is just enough to satisfy a flashaholics urge to tinker.
Let's hope the coming surge is better than the last.

P650SE said:
Yeah, it's unfortunate that there isn't better support for this phone. I didn't realise when I bought it about a month ago that the situation was like this. Even my ZUK Z2 had a better community behind it which surprises me.
The most stable and least bloated ROM is definitely LineageOS, as that's the closest you can get to stock Android in the form of custom ROM's with just a few additional mods. DARK ROM as I mentioned before is just LineageOS with some extra enhancements. Both are stable but if you're after an officially-supported ROM with proper OTA updates, then LineageOS is the best option. I would recommend flashing Magisk v14.0 afterwards if you're interested in root support.
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I guess I will be using LineageOS, I am just too excited with this phone don't want to spoil myself and brick.
Cablespider said:
Over the last few months, ROM teams began feature locking and doing final Nougat builds to start work on Oreo. This period always leaves us dry for a time being. I've seen dry spells like this since KitKat. I anticipate a wave of ROMs in the coming months. Until then, there is a fine selection of ROMs to choose from. I do agree that the selection is a bit sparse compared to other phones. There is just enough to satisfy a flashaholics urge to tinker.
Let's hope the coming surge is better than the last.
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I am not a flashaholic but I know that most fixes are always done in custom roms or they optimize battery stuff, user experience and the ability to have custom kernel and schedulers are always welcome.

Cablespider said:
Over the last few months, ROM teams began feature locking and doing final Nougat builds to start work on Oreo. This period always leaves us dry for a time being. I've seen dry spells like this since KitKat. I anticipate a wave of ROMs in the coming months.
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Good point. I keep forgetting the fact that most of the ROM teams are working on their final builds of Nougat and beginning progress with Oreo. At the moment it does feel like there is a slight lack of development, but like you said there is still a decent selection to choose from. (Lineage, AEX, AICP, RR, etc.) I did expect LineageOS 15 to have arrived already after seeing the screenshots and estimate of 1-3 days in the development thread, but that was of course 3 weeks ago and unfortunately it ended up getting delayed quite substantially. (I'm sure our patience will be rewarded though, if it means a more stable first release!)
The next few months should be exciting and i'm definitely looking forward to it, but for the moment it is a difficult time for us 'flashaholics' awaiting the initial builds of Oreo. I should probably indulge myself in another hobby rather than obsessing about when Android 8.0 will arrive on the Axon 7.

You're not alone. I look forward to testing and whatnot. I hope this phone can taking a beating like my beloved LG G3 did. RIP little buddy.

What guide should I look at to install custom rom?
I got a ZTE Axon7 A2017G

Also just noticed with stock rom playing games really drains the battery fast, REALLY fast. Every 3rd min is a 1%.
Another funny thing I noticed is that with stock rom if I press a folder and then exit the folder and then press again, the whole launcher crashes and restarts.
Oh and I noticed that the wifi connection isn't stable.

I don't get that behaviour with my A2017G. What ROM is it on ? Mine is Nougat B04 (AU).

robbow said:
i don't get that behaviour with my a2017g. What rom is it on ? Mine is nougat b04 (au).
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zte a2017gv1.2.0b02

Also I am curious to know. How do I gain back fastboot?(FIXED THIS)
So I am curious about roms/kernels.
I want to try a rom/kernel but I have been seeing there are a few roms that have something called "callbug" where the speakers make noise when a call is going on and when answering the mics are muted or call will be interrupted, no idea tbh.
So I would like to avoid a rom with such bug.

Jack of all Trades, and Master of NONE??

Hello Developers, fellow users. I am Sam and I'd like to point out something that has been happening everywhere for years but it gets ignored.
I've been using Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 since when it was released in India and I was a XDA member even before that! Previously I had a Samsung Galaxy flagship phone.
Guys, all we've been doing is chasing our tails. Let me tell you why I say this. It starts with using MiUi and getting bored, then eventually Stock Android/AOSP ROMs are made (Of course because of the hard work the developers put in). We use them, they work really good, and their bugs are fewer.
However, as soon as there's a "Newer Version" of Android released, everthing else is left in the dust and forgotten!
Here's what I want to ask anyone and everyone who would answer it......
Why do we chase something that isn't even released for our device? What's the rush?
It started with Marshmallow release.
There were good lollipop ROMs and Marshmallow did not come out for our device, but nevertheless, the process started. Okay, but by the time when some good Marshmallow ROMs were being made, Nougat gets released and all hell breaks loose, "AGAIN"!!! Once more, the process started. And again on the verge of having some good Nougat ROMs, "Oreo is released"? Please see the pattern here!!
Now, we know that Nougat might never be made available, officially, for kenzo.
My point is we haven't had a bug free ROM with good signals, ever!
Not in any version of Android!!
I urge the developers to consider, even partnering up, for making a good and bug free "Marshmallow ROM", Nougat Rom before moving on to OREO
@Demon_sss @TheStrix @xyxx @GreekDragon @PhenomX1998 @psndna88 @abhishek987 @TheDarkStrix @Umang96 @jhenrique09 @AmolAmrit @wight554 @dadi11 @poad42 @O_dinochka @minz1 @Ashish94 @ValoXis @flar2 @rocknegi @srisurya95 @Sudeep Duhoon @EsromG5
@scrubjay55
I make no demands guys, but more people than just me will be obliged if this becomes something real!

Mr.Diligent said:
Why do we chase something that isn't even released for our device? What's the rush?
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Cuz, this is XDA, dude!

Bored of MIUI is the basis for discussion? I'm in support of all devs I'm happy the way they progressed starting from Marshmallow & now we have stable Nougat where as Xiaomi is abandoning older devices.
Regarding the network strength there's not a huge difference between MIUI & Custom roms imo.
You have two choices try taking this to the next level of Xiaomi executives or never buy MI devices.
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Umm, Oh...Kay....!!
VaibhavKumar07 said:
Bored of MIUI is the basis for discussion? I'm in support of all devs I'm happy the way they progressed starting from Marshmallow & now we have stable Nougat where as Xiaomi is abandoning older devices.
Regarding the network strength there's not a huge difference between MIUI & Custom roms imo.
You have two choices try taking this to the next level of Xiaomi executives or never buy MI devices.
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1. The basis of this discussion is, actually, the love for stock Android. Not only we get bored of MiUi but also by using TouchWiz, Flyme etc. Okay!!
2. No we don't have stable ROMs yet, not really!!
3. It's strategy to abandon older devices that Xiaomi also follows, nothing odd about it!
So, in short,
I thank thou for your UNvaluable inputs here!!

I think AOSIP by shrisurya is almost complete nougat ROM with best signals and stability.RR,nitrogen,los are pretty strong ones too,so no problem in focusing on developing Oreo ones.just a rookie's thought.

Mr.Diligent said:
1. The basis of this discussion is, actually, the love for stock Android. Not only we get bored of MiUi but also by using TouchWiz, Flyme etc. Okay!!
2. No we don't have stable ROMs yet, not really!!
3. It's strategy to abandon older devices that Xiaomi also follows, nothing odd about it!
So, in short,
I thank thou for your UNvaluable inputs here!!
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I would rather ignore you at this point but let me answer :
> If you love stock android that's k but bored of MIUI? Do you have a life or just keep staring at your phone lmao, if you give valid reasons like performance, battery life etc that's acceptable.
> We don't have stable roms yet? all Nougat roms are stable for usage in real life i.e. Network, Battery life, No lags or FCs , Theme support, Security patches etc
> Are you talking about strategy with me? Kid, in this case a device that has millions of users and had success there's a lot more to expect in terms of software updates. Abandoning a device with such popularity just after a year is a terrible decision.

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2. No we don't have stable ROMs yet, not really!!
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Nougat ROMs are already plenty stable. Never experienced any bugs with the ROM I'm using for about 2 months now. Signal quality is the same with MIUI on mine. Using Desolation ROM by the way.

I think the 'Geek' in you is sleeping, you just need to wake him up and you will get the answer to your question.

This is positive post, No offence offered to anyone guys!!
Blueshark17 said:
I think AOSIP by shrisurya is almost complete nougat ROM with best signals and stability.RR,nitrogen,los are pretty strong ones too,so no problem in focusing on developing Oreo ones. Just a rookie's thought.
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Yeah 5.9 build of AoSIP is good for signals not much else though! None of the rest, i.e. including the newer version of the AoSIP, are even comparable with Global Stock Rom for kenzo!
bloodytolits said:
Nougat ROMs are already plenty stable. Never experienced any bugs with the ROM I'm using for about 2 months now. Signal quality is the same with MIUI on mine. Using Desolation ROM by the way.
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Okay, regarding the signal quality, no, it most unequivocally, isn't even as good as that of An MiUi Rom!
VaibhavKumar07 said:
I would rather ignore you at this point but let me answer :
> If you love stock android that's k but bored of MIUI? Do you have a life or just keep staring at your phone lmao, if you give valid reasons like performance, battery life etc that's acceptable.
> We don't have stable roms yet? all Nougat roms are stable for usage in real life i.e. Network, Battery life, No lags or FCs , Theme support, Security patches etc
> Are you talking about strategy with me? Kid, in this case a device that has millions of users and had success there's a lot more to expect in terms of software updates. Abandoning a device with such popularity just after a year is a terrible decision.
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You're aware that people have their own choices right, also most of us are here because, even if we don't hate/get bored of Miui, We at least don't like/prefer MiUi as much, which includes you too!
1. Also battery is the most....
You know what, I know you can't help me man!
I'm not interested in this stupid quarrel!
So, it's now an EOC with you Vaibhav!

Mr.Diligent said:
Yeah 5.9 build of AoSIP is good for signals not much else though! None of the rest, i.e. including the newer version of the AoSIP, are even comparable with Global Stock Rom for kenzo!
Okay, regarding the signal quality, no, it most unequivocally, isn't even as good as that of An MiUi Rom!
You're aware that people have their own choices right, also most of us are here because, even if we don't hate/get bored of Miui, We at least don't like/prefer MiUi as much, which includes you too!
1. Also battery is the most....
You know what, I know you can't help me man!
I'm not interested in this stupid quarrel!
So, it's now an EOC with you Vaibhav!
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Thread reported , you're just here to grab attention & get some likes.
On my Ignore list already.
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Off you go.....
VaibhavKumar07 said:
Thread reported, I'm just here to grab attention & get some likes.
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Wait, wait, wait.... Do you do this more often?
Something tells me that you always say:
"Thread reported"!
Is this what you do? Do you ruin others' threads by engaging in pointless back to back comments?
Well I reported you as well!
Admin before removing my genuine thread, kindly check this guy out!

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Wait, wait, wait.... Do you do this more often?
Something tells me that you always say:
"Thread reported"!
Is this what you do? Do you ruin others' threads by engaging in pointless back to back comments?
Well I reported you as well!
Admin before removing my genuine thread, kindly check this guy out!
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To be fair, your thread is actually pointless/stupid. It's just ranting. You claim there are no stable Nougat, yet there are a lot here that says otherwise. Your definition of stable is suspect here. Probably, stable = perfect.
It's easy to check if signal strength really is better in MIUI. Flash MIUI, put your phone down somewhere then take note of the signal strength(dbm and asu not the signal bar) with several second intervals for several minutes(until you're satisfied) then do the same for the other ROM you want. Mine showed no difference. The only thing better with MIUI was camera quality.

I am using Nitrogen OS nougat for quite some time now, and I must say it's totally stable, never faced any problem till now. And I have even compared the dBm and asu with miui roms, and there's no difference practically, and there's no call drops or poor call quality issues also. You can definitely give it try, I don't know what else you mean by stable.

bloodytolits said:
To be fair, your thread is actually pointless/stupid. It's just ranting. You claim there are no stable Nougat, yet there are a lot here that says otherwise. Your definition of stable is suspect here. Probably, stable = perfect.
It's easy to check if signal strength really is better in MIUI. Flash MIUI, put your phone down somewhere then take note of the signal strength(dbm and asu not the signal bar) with several second intervals for several minutes(until you're satisfied) then do the same for the other ROM you want. Mine showed no difference. The only thing better with MIUI was camera quality.
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Try this mate with HDR+ on Gcam > MIUI cam https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/themes/google-camera-hdr-60fps-t3656675

Mr.Diligent said:
Hello Developers, fellow users. I am Sam and I'd like to point out something that has been happening everywhere for years but it gets ignored.
I've been using Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 since when it was released in India and I was a XDA member even before that! Previously I had a Samsung Galaxy flagship phone.
Guys, all we've been doing is chasing our tails. Let me tell you why I say this. It starts with using MiUi and getting bored, then eventually Stock Android/AOSP ROMs are made (Of course because of the hard work the developers put in). We use them, they work really good, and their bugs are fewer.
However, as soon as there's a "Newer Version" of Android released, everthing else is left in the dust and forgotten!
Here's what I want to ask anyone and everyone who would answer it......
Why do we chase something that isn't even released for our device? What's the rush?
It started with Marshmallow release.
There were good lollipop ROMs and Marshmallow did not come out for our device, but nevertheless, the process started. Okay, but by the time when some good Marshmallow ROMs were being made, Nougat gets released and all hell breaks loose, "AGAIN"!!! Once more, the process started. And again on the verge of having some good Nougat ROMs, "Oreo is released"? Please see the pattern here!!
Now, we know that Nougat might never be made available, officially, for kenzo.
My point is we haven't had a bug free ROM with good signals, ever!
Not in any version of Android!!
I urge the developers to consider, even partnering up, for making a good and bug free "Marshmallow ROM", Nougat Rom before moving on to OREO
@Demon_sss @TheStrix @xyxx @GreekDragon @PhenomX1998 @psndna88 @abhishek987 @TheDarkStrix @Umang96 @jhenrique09 @AmolAmrit @wight554 @dadi11 @poad42 @O_dinochka @minz1 @Ashish94 @ValoXis @flar2 @rocknegi @srisurya95 @Sudeep Duhoon @EsromG5
@scrubjay55
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Mr.Diligent said:
I make no demands guys, but more people than just me will be obliged if this becomes something real!
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But you are being demanding. You said yourself, you have been a member here for a long time. So why not do it yourself? Contribute instead of expecting others to do it for you. After all, that IS what this site is for. Developers.
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Very Less DEVS

If i knew that this phone pixel xl has a very few ROMs and MODs i wouldn't really buy it, i prefer oneplus phones... it's just disappointing

driss.sadok said:
If i knew that this phone pixel xl has a very few ROMs and MODs i wouldn't really buy it, i prefer oneplus phones... it's just disappointing
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7.x seems like it was a real challenge for developers with the a/b partitions etc. Hoping the 8 treble improvements will help that situation out. The Sony theming engine already has helped me via substratum.
Still I'm thinking the stock room hasn't given me any reason to move. In general the deviations from AOSP I like.
But yes, sure isn't a Nexus 5.

I think it's down to the price. I see no reason to buy this to Dev on over any other device Pixel just isn't value for money and nowhere near as popular as some of the other devices out there

People griping about "Very Less DEVS" certainly won't improve the situation. Thread reported to mods. If you want to complain, at least use the right forum.

I'd rather have "very less" stable quality software rather than the trash I see in some of the custom roms.

Android has matured a significant amount since the EZroot days of the Droid 1 days to the point where the OS already comes from factory with the customization that people used custom ROMs for.
That, plus the frequency of monthly updates and the need for the rom developer to keep up with the monthy updates PLUS incorporating new ways to circumvent the safetynet check has made modifying less sought after.
I'm pretty sure the majority of people people that rooted and ran ROMs were for the purpose of increasing functionality and not solely for the purpose of saying "I modified my phone".
Placebo init.d scripts and build.prop days flooded the "developer" community for some time until people caught up with it. If a company could incorporate ways to increase speed and battery life without losing functionality, wouldn't you think they would do it so they can have an edge against their competition?
So I ask, what are you looking for in a custom rom that isn't available right now?

ChongoDroid said:
I'd rather have "very less" stable quality software rather than the trash I see in some of the custom roms.
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Have to agree. I am running rooted stock and have all the mods I need with great battery life. I get the need for some people wanting to run custom roms for missing options from the stock rom, but with custom roms also comes with bugs.

Yea when I originally purchased this last year I figured the dev community would be huge. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the awesome ROMs we have just thought it would be a bigger scene. Seeing as how the phone is very expensive and if you want an unlocked bootloader you have to buy it through Google it makes sense (yes some Verizon models could be unlocked before updating). In general I still love the phone and it's by far better than anything I've had before. I don't upgrade phones often because I always wait for very good deals (Pixel for $140 new) so I'll likely have this for years.

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People griping about "Very Less DEVS" certainly won't improve the situation. Thread reported to mods. If you want to complain, at least use the right forum.
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THANK U but i think this forum is the discussion too, so it's the right place to complain.. i wasn't complaining only for mods, roms too ... i think u get my point

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7.x seems like it was a real challenge for developers with the a/b partitions etc. Hoping the 8 treble improvements will help that situation out. The Sony theming engine already has helped me via substratum.
Still I'm thinking the stock room hasn't given me any reason to move. In general the deviations from AOSP I like.
But yes, sure isn't a Nexus 5.
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i have substratum and i am always on swiftblack, i'm getting bored so can u please link the sony one ? hahahaha i think our phone is only limited in stock system.

richii0207 said:
Android has matured a significant amount since the EZroot days of the Droid 1 days to the point where the OS already comes from factory with the customization that people used custom ROMs for.
That, plus the frequency of monthly updates and the need for the rom developer to keep up with the monthy updates PLUS incorporating new ways to circumvent the safetynet check has made modifying less sought after.
I'm pretty sure the majority of people people that rooted and ran ROMs were for the purpose of increasing functionality and not solely for the purpose of saying "I modified my phone".
Placebo init.d scripts and build.prop days flooded the "developer" community for some time until people caught up with it. If a company could incorporate ways to increase speed and battery life without losing functionality, wouldn't you think they would do it so they can have an edge against their competition?
So I ask, what are you looking for in a custom rom that isn't available right now?
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well i agree with u, and concerning your question i would say that if we can have a different room rather than the stock i would be happy, i used to have, nexus5, N6, N5x, N6P, 1+1 and 1+3.. i always look for something really different than the stock android, like miui or flyme os.. or at least a rom with plenty of features. i am just get bored to have always the same stock system as there is no other cutom oreo rom. i'm not a professional and i never tried to coock some here but i always change and flash my phone and even my family and friends phones . pixel xl is amazing especially with software updates and google things, even the camera app is the best so far and we recently have this new option of "AR STICKERS"... but i am bored that this phone doesn't really make me work on it.
i hope u get the message

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Yea when I originally purchased this last year I figured the dev community would be huge. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the awesome ROMs we have just thought it would be a bigger scene. Seeing as how the phone is very expensive and if you want an unlocked bootloader you have to buy it through Google it makes sense (yes some Verizon models could be unlocked before updating). In general I still love the phone and it's by far better than anything I've had before. I don't upgrade phones often because I always wait for very good deals (Pixel for $140 new) so I'll likely have this for years.
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what u said is exactly what i meant by making this post, and honestly this phone is the best so far, i just expected more devs on it as it's a huge phone especially a google phone.

To the OP,
It's been pretty clear for some time that there aren't many rooms for the Pixel XL: are you sure that you really could not have known this before you got one?
I'm not that bothered that there isn't much development: less is more, there's less necessity than a few years ago and the pace of updates and safetynet make this a more intensive task (as mentioned by others). I have root and only use this for very specific features like adblocking.
I've had 3 OnePlus phones (2, 3 & 5) and each generation of Nexus/Pixel (bar two: GNex and N6... I had the Pixel 2 but returned it as faulty). A number of the roms/mods for 1+ are attempts to replicate Nexus/Pixel features, with the rest fairly pointless shortcuts and 'features' of little value (and often already accessible through an app). Substratum does most all you need for theming, and xposed (apparently almost ready for Oreo as the biggest jump was to Nougat) takes care of much of the other stuff.

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well i agree with u, and concerning your question i would say that if we can have a different room rather than the stock i would be happy, i used to have, nexus5, N6, N5x, N6P, 1+1 and 1+3.. i always look for something really different than the stock android, like miui or flyme os.. or at least a rom with plenty of features. i am just get bored to have always the same stock system as there is no other cutom oreo rom. i'm not a professional and i never tried to coock some here but i always change and flash my phone and even my family and friends phones . pixel xl is amazing especially with software updates and google things, even the camera app is the best so far and we recently have this new option of "AR STICKERS"... but i am bored that this phone doesn't really make me work on it.
i hope u get the message
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I think you may have bought the wrong phone if u expected that you were going to need to be replacing the ROM... IMHO, none of the custom ROMs are going to be better optimisized, and its just a fact that none will be utilisizing the latest new android features, being as they are always months behind Google's releases....
custom roms tend to be far better suited for older phones, EOL devices, etc...
you can still get a ton of customizations on the stock ROM, but it comes down to custom kernels, launchers and root apps that can modify the ROM, etc....
I'm curious, what are the compelling features that u need out of rom that u can't get on stock?

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THANK U but i think this forum is the discussion too, so it's the right place to complain.. i wasn't complaining only for mods, roms too ... i think u get my point
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The mods must agree with me, not you. Enjoy complaining in the correct forum.

kboya said:
To the OP,
It's been pretty clear for some time that there aren't many rooms for the Pixel XL: are you sure that you really could not have known this before you got one?
I'm not that bothered that there isn't much development: less is more, there's less necessity than a few years ago and the pace of updates and safetynet make this a more intensive task (as mentioned by others). I have root and only use this for very specific features like adblocking.
I've had 3 OnePlus phones (2, 3 & 5) and each generation of Nexus/Pixel (bar two: GNex and N6... I had the Pixel 2 but returned it as faulty). A number of the roms/mods for 1+ are attempts to replicate Nexus/Pixel features, with the rest fairly pointless shortcuts and 'features' of little value (and often already accessible through an app). Substratum does most all you need for theming, and xposed (apparently almost ready for Oreo as the biggest jump was to Nougat) takes care of much of the other stuff.
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I miss Xposed. So. Freaking. Much.
But not enough to to go back to nougat lol

Last Xposed report was almost ready for Oreo.. a few weeks back

Thank u guys, i know my subject is annoying, but i think i am just addicted to changing all time, and to this forum too lol. but if really Xposed comes to nougat, that would help my sickness

I have had no urge to install a custom ROM or even a kernel since I got the Pixel XL (right after release). Besides my being annoyed by Google putting the search bar on the bottom of the home launcher page and making it non-deletable or even movable, I have been totally happy with bootloader unlocked and rooted stock. My only development frustration is the moving target that the TWRP devs seem to be chasing and the SuperSU transition. I am liking Magisk so far, but I had got used to Chainfire's apps and have a hard time accepting this change LOL.

2nd hand Pixel XL's will swell the user base
liam_davenport said:
I think it's down to the price. I see no reason to buy this to Dev on over any other device Pixel just isn't value for money and nowhere near as popular as some of the other devices out there
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Cheaper 2nd hand XL's will make this phone more popular - I just got mine for £340 and am very pleased with it. (I should be as my previous phone was a Nexus 4 which I loved and nurtured for over 4 years!)
Having said that I'm on 8.1 stock unlocked but not yet rooted.
I'm waiting to see what Project Treble will bring.

Carbon Rom coming soon for Taimen?

https://github.com/CarbonROM/android_device_google_taimen/tree/cr-6.1
Looks like some work on the carbon roms github for taimen!?

Oh please let there be roms. Stock is so boring

Not soon enough from my standpoint...

This is not meant towards the amazing developers here, I am very grateful for thier hard work. But is there an issue with this particular phone ?
Im in shock after 2 plus months of this phone being out there is not one single ROM out yet. A next generation Nexus type phone should be chock-full of ROMs and kernels by now. I'm really at a loss for words.
I've owned 6 of the 8 Nexus / Pixel phones over the years, starting with the Nexus-One. And typically within one month there's several good ROM's out already.

Zorachus said:
I'm still in shock after 2 plus months of this phone being out there is not one single ROM out yet. A next generation Nexus type phone should be chock-full of ROMs and kernels by now. I'm really at a loss for words.
I've owned 6 of the 8 Nexus / Pixel phones over the years, starting with the Nexus-One. And typically within one month there's several good ROM's out already.
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We've only just got stable twrp ...calm down
The pixels are more complicated. Don't like it. Get a OnePlus

Be nice to see some roms. Thanks.

Isn't Project Treble supposed to help make ROM'ing faster and easier ?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/25/googles-project-treble-start-custom-rom-revolution/

Zorachus said:
Isn't Project Treble supposed to help make ROM'ing faster and easier ?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/25/googles-project-treble-start-custom-rom-revolution/
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ys but that doesn't change the fact that Oreo changed A LOT about the system that the devs have to go through...
It's not because of the phone that we don't have ROMs, it's because Oreoooooooooooo

Roms are going to take time because of the new Android security add-ons. Just look how different encryption is. The last I heard about twrp is that it may not work after each update

Ericarthurc said:
https://github.com/CarbonROM/android_device_google_taimen/tree/cr-6.1
Looks like some work on the carbon roms github for taimen!?
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To actually answer your question, yes it is coming. Dev's are hard at work on it and I know some people who have been working to build it. Long story short, Oreo sucks nuts for developers. The system is vastly different from years past and many things have to be rewritten from scratch.
Be patient people. Rom's are on the way. These guys do this in their free time for fun.

Alright so I guess I'll update people. Yeah Carbon is working on it, one of theirs devs and I have been the only two I know of working on it besides lineage, so I think we're all still in the process of getting it stable before adding stuff.
We had to fight through a lot of hurdles to get to where we're at, I haven't really seen many rom teams trying to bring up the taimen because of odd device tree, the a/b requirement, and the oddness of the proprietary blobs. But yeah I'd say you're at least a good 3 weeks away from any team dropping any roms.
I have no idea when carbon will be out BTW.
I don't even rom, I just need a rom for the other dev stuff I'm doing lol, so hopefully some fellow devs will get involved.

Thanks for the update. So it seems true that Oreo is much more difficult to develop for ? As well as the Pixel phone's having the a/b partions.
Why didn't Google just leave the Pixel phones like the Nexus and OnePlus phones ? I guess for security reasons ?
And how bout Project Treble ? Does that help down the road ? Once a AOSP ROM is out does Treble make it easier or faster to update it or add stuff quicker?

I'm working on slim ?

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I'm working on slim ?
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Hahaha nice I just fixed a huge issue I was having with lte. I'm trying to convince beans to get pure stable, I already have a base going.
You using the payload.bin method?

Surge1223 said:
Hahaha nice I just fixed a huge issue I was having with lte. I'm trying to convince beans to get pure stable, I already have a base going.
You using the payload.bin method?
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Did Beans retire?

I saw ROM on the main page of the google pixel 2 xl and got so excited!!!!

Surge1223 said:
Alright so I guess I'll update people. Yeah Carbon is working on it, one of theirs devs and I have been the only two I know of working on it besides lineage, so I think we're all still in the process of getting it stable before adding stuff.
We had to fight through a lot of hurdles to get to where we're at, I haven't really seen many rom teams trying to bring up the taimen because of odd device tree, the a/b requirement, and the oddness of the proprietary blobs. But yeah I'd say you're at least a good 3 weeks away from any team dropping any roms.
I have no idea when carbon will be out BTW.
I don't even rom, I just need a rom for the other dev stuff I'm doing lol, so hopefully some fellow devs will get involved.
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Any plans to publish your work? I desperately want to do some low-level modem diags.

So the Pixel XL oreo rom started showing up, so we hope to see ours soon too

LLStarks said:
Any plans to publish your work? I desperately want to do some low-level modem diags.
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Most of my stuff is on git, subs Gerrit or pure git. So it's already out there but as far as rom wise, im part of team pure so it would be in pure nexus. I think the base is solid right now, I just started helping add mods yesterday, specifically OMS related like fonts etc.
As far as modem debugging I'm assuming you're saying that since I'm on a userdebug build, yeah I don't know if I'll post that up or not but it's pretty simple to build.
Just a note for folks out there building, lineage blobs aren't complete, and don't make otapackage, make dist because you need those images signed brillo payload style
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lucky_strike33 said:
Did Beans retire?
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Not as of yet.

Surge1223 said:
Most of my stuff is on git, subs Gerrit or pure git. So it's already out there but as far as rom wise, im part of team pure so it would be in pure nexus. I think the base is solid right now, I just started helping add mods yesterday, specifically OMS related like fonts etc.
As far as modem debugging I'm assuming you're saying that since I'm on a userdebug build, yeah I don't know if I'll post that up or not but it's pretty simple to build.
Just a note for folks out there building, lineage blobs aren't complete, and don't make otapackage, make dist because you need those images signed brillo payload style
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Not as of yet.
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Pure Nexus OMS for Taimen?!?!
My happy cells are in overload!
Used to run PN when I had the Bullhead
God speed to the PN team!