Related
I have seen many tablet polls asking about the right size of the tablet that the people want.
The results are that the 10" tablet is the favorite size for most people, but I wonder.....
Do that people have tasted both the 7" and the 10" tablet before making a choice?
I have brought this subject because I'm thinking that the manufacturers think that what the people want is 10" , when actually, they could have better with a 7" or 8" tablet.
come to think about it, reading on a 10" display is not cool, besides you need to hold it with two hands because of the weight.
The gaming experience is much better on a 7" tablet.
The GPS Navigator is much much better on a 7".
We cannot deny that browsing webpages on 10" is much better, but I'm not only browsing on my tablet.
I Suggest to read this article, it's called "The iPad likes to stay at home" Guess why?
http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/inspect-a-gadget/2010/10/the-ipad-likes-to-stay-at-home.html
what do you think??
"Do that people have tasted both the 7" and the 10" tablet before making a choice?"
I bought an iPad after seeing them used prominently at a recent conference. Less than 24 hours later, I returned it.
However, I looked at the Galaxy Tab and fell in love. Can't imagine the 10" screen over the 7". For me, it's just a much more ergonomic choice. But some people like Chevy's; others like Fords. Or Honda's and Toyota's if you prefer.
Same here. The Tab is way cool!! It is taking a little bit to get used to a 7" screen phone tho...... LOL Although today I took my Streak 5 with me instead and really missed the Tab. Now if I could only find a good horizontal case with belt loops for the Tab, life would be very good.....
Later
My wife bought an iPad 4 months ago and has been using it daily since she bought it. I bought a T-mobile Galaxy Tab 3 weeks ago and have unlocked it, flashed several different roms and modems and installed a sim card from one of T-mobile's competitors.
The iPad is a nice piece of hardware in its own right, but the Galaxy Tab is a far more mobile device than the iPad and has voice capabilities.
My wife now wants the same setup that I have with the Tab because it fits into her purse (not the iPad) and it has the voice capabilities.
I like both devices, but I prefer the Tab over the iPad for the simple reason that it has much better mobility.
As far as I'm concerned 7 inches is just about perfect for a tablet/phone device and until something much better comes along...I'm staying with the Galaxy Tab.
I don't use my galaxy for phone capabilities because my sprint is not activated, I use it adhoc-ed with my X10 for wifi-only.
After seeing some other tablets, the Acer Iconia A100 is a 7" with honeycomb and tegra 2, looks like what I'm looking for.
Although I might choose the LG Optimus pad in favor of their 8.9" , but I still need to decide if I'm really going to keep my tablet on my home for leisure time because of its size
The Tab fits in my pocket, a 10" wouldn't
there is no competition
I went to best buy today and was playing with the ipad, and it's way too big. I was browsing the internet and found it difficult to reach the inner letters of the keyboard, like g and h in both portrait and landscape mode. It is nice hardware for sure, but I think the 7" is a lot better for mobility and practicality.
ellokomen said:
I don't use my galaxy for phone capabilities because my sprint is not activated, I use it adhoc-ed with my X10 for wifi-only.
After seeing some other tablets, the Acer Iconia A100 is a 7" with honeycomb and tegra 2, looks like what I'm looking for.
Although I might choose the LG Optimus pad in favor of their 8.9" , but I still need to decide if I'm really going to keep my tablet on my home for leisure time because of its size
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thing is, the Acer Iconia looks plain ugly, both in form factor and in finishing
The screen res is not up to par with the tab too
I chose the Tab due to its size and it is easier to handle and use compared to the 10 inch tablets.
Most people that I know tend to prefer 7 inch tablets after handling it, though some are still swayed by the cool factor of the ipad.
It would be interesting too see what happens if we all had 4", 7", 10" and 12" galaxy tabs laying around at home. Which would you take with you when you go shopping, to the gym, to work or to the toilet?
schmolch said:
It would be interesting too see what happens if we all had 4", 7", 10" and 12" galaxy tabs laying around at home. Which would you take with you when you go shopping, to the gym, to work or to the toilet?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a Desire HD (so, 4.3") and a Tab. I tend to take both whenever I go out, with a few exceptions (like the pub!), and I find that I tend to just use the Desire HD as a phone, and the Tab for everything else.
Any larger than 7", and it would likely stay at home as it wouldn't fit in jacket pocket.
I may end up getting a 10" tablet at some point, but if I do it will have a semi-permanent home on a coffee table, and would be WiFi only.
Regards,
Dave
My tab goes everywhere, my girlfriends ipad lives in the draw.
10inch tablets are for people who think bigger is better and have no clue.
When iPad was announced I was really into it. It looked great, had a big screen and as an iPhone owner, I had a good experience with Apple. That all went away the first time I saw it in person and spent some time using it.
The experience was far from perfect. That thing was big. I hated the fact that the OS was same as in iPhone. My first reaction was "wtf, so much wasted space around those icons". Soon I realized that the typing was very awkward, the finger travel distances were driving me crazy and my interest in iPad was simply gone in those 30 minutes I spent with it.
Then I got the Galaxy Tab and well... The rest is history
Personally, I think that poll simply shows that people do think that bigger is better - it was exactly how I felt, before actually using a 10" product.
I personally prefer 7 inches for mobility. I wish they would make them a little wider though.. maybe 1024x800?.. I would really like a 7 inch tablet that is a little wider than the current ones available (would probably end up being 8 inches because of extra width)
openallnight said:
I personally prefer 7 inches for mobility. I wish they would make them a little wider though.. maybe 1024x800?.. I would really like a 7 inch tablet that is a little wider than the current ones available (would probably end up being 8 inches because of extra width)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They'd need to get rid of the bezel in order to make the screen wider, as I personally think the width of the Tab is about as large as your can comfortably fit in a pocket.
Regards,
Dave
Yeah, I agree, but bezel seems to be necesarry to be able to hold the device with the thumb on the top. Personally, I feel it would be great to have edge-to-edge screen that would automagically black out the left-right edges depending on the orientation, so you would be able to hold it without activating anything.
Of course, the bezels could be disabled when watching videos, or surfing the net with 2 hands etc.
Bugman1 said:
My wife bought an iPad 4 months ago and has been using it daily since she bought it. I bought a T-mobile Galaxy Tab 3 weeks ago and have unlocked it, flashed several different roms and modems and installed a sim card from one of T-mobile's competitors.
The iPad is a nice piece of hardware in its own right, but the Galaxy Tab is a far more mobile device than the iPad and has voice capabilities.
My wife now wants the same setup that I have with the Tab because it fits into her purse (not the iPad) and it has the voice capabilities.
I like both devices, but I prefer the Tab over the iPad for the simple reason that it has much better mobility.
As far as I'm concerned 7 inches is just about perfect for a tablet/phone device and until something much better comes along...I'm staying with the Galaxy Tab.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree. I have the iPad and love it, but it doesn't fit in my "regular" purses and I tend to carry medium to large purses. I really want a device that can go with me anywhere. Plus, as an Evo user I am used to being able to customize my devices and install roms and am not able to do so on the iPad.
"Which would you take with you when you go shopping, to the gym, to work or to the toilet?"
I ripped my P90X DVD's and put them on the TAB for working out at the gym. Previously, I used a portable DVD player but I never managed to keep the darn thing charged so it was a mess, what with power cords, remote, DVD's and of course the player itself.
one extra point for the 7" screen is the extra hand that you have.
msg for iPad troll:
yeah, you may have an iPad, but I have an extra hand that do more stuffs than your big tablet alone
Today I saw a 8.9" netbook, and that size caught my sight on it, I think I'm gonna score some LG Optimus 3D tablet with 8.9" when it hits the market.
I have:
Nexus one (3.7 inch): Great size for a phone, 4 inchs would be my limit for a phone, but I don't find 3.7 inchs on a phone limiting.
Galaxy tab (7inch): I LOVE this size of this thing, I can slip it into any bag I have, I have a small messenger bag and from the looks, its hard to tell a tab would fit in it (it does with plenty of space to spare!). Makes me less of a target to thieves too.
I was planning on a 10 inch tablet initially too, but after looking at my 12.1 inch laptop, it didn't seem much more portable (ok, its lighter and thinner). Then again, if a manufacturer manages to have a large screen in small physical estate (very thin bezel), that might be a good thing.
Honestly, I think the Tab hits the sweet spot in portability and usability. If they manage to make the bezel thinner and keep the same size, its pretty much the size of those small books
Toshiba M750 (12.1 inch): It's ok for a laptop, not too heavy, not light (at all), but as a tablet, it's pretty heavy and thick.
Only thing I like about it now is the digitizer.
On the box, there is an "SSN" number. Supposedly, if you have an SSN that starts with C70k (or better yet, C80k), it will not be defective. However, all of the tablets I've had (4) have started with C60k, which is the very first production run. They were all defective .
So if you have a nexus 7 tablet, and kept the box, please check it out so we can try to find which production run has perfect Nexus 7's!
I'm not sure if posting your entire SSN is a security issue, so I would advise you to just post the first 4 letters and numbers.
I have a C70K but it hasn't been opened yet. The one that has is a C60K I bought two weeks prior to receiving the C70K. My C60K has very slight screen lift on the middle left-side, but is good otherwise. Just waiting for my plastic case opener to come in so I can fix the screen lift.
There are perfect C60's (like mine), and defective C80's. This has been discussed ad nauseum.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
C60K and I only have a very very little of screen lift on the top left...its almost unnoticeable.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Mine is a C60K. Only issue is minor screen lift on the left side, not enough to be a issue for me.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
1st on was a C60K, it had very apparent screen lift and a squishiness on the left side. New one is a C70k, so far so good...
I have a C60 and it is perfect. No screen lift, perfect display... it's perfect.
Sent from the back of a police car
All of mine have been from Gamestop:
1st C6 - would turn off at 20% "show low low battery logo" even after calibrating bad battery? Perfect screen, exchanged
2nd C7 - bad left side screen separation/lift, exchanged
3rd C7 - dust under the screen, 2 spots , exchanged
4th C7 - minor left side screen seperation/lift, just started doing the death at 20% exactly like the first C6 I had for no reason today, exchanged
5th C8 - minor left side screen seperation/lift , missing two screws under battery cover (left side of screen) , returned for gift card
C60K has minor screen lift and faulty speakers, but otherwise good.
C70K has uneven white pixels. Left side of display is clearly brighter than the grey/orangish right side. Seems perfect otherwise.
Both are getting returned.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
yanksrock1000 said:
On the box, there is an "SSN" number. Supposedly, if you have an SSN that starts with C70k (or better yet, C80k), it will not be defective.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have no idea where you're getting that. There's absolutely no evidence to support the notion that any serial number prefix is more or less problematic than any other. Also, I'm not aware of anyone actually receiving a C80 unit yet.
As a refresher, ASUS uses a certain code to date their products. C = 2012, 7 = July, so a C70 prefix merely means a unit was built in July. A C80 prefix means it was built in August. That's it. Even the assumption that devices that are made later will be better built is suspect, because that presumes that fixes have actually been implement in manufacturing.
However, before a fix can be implemented in manufacturing, it has to be designed, then tested, and then new parts produced, and then test manufacturing runs performed, and changes made to the manufacturing process. I'm probably missing some steps as well.
Once the new build is approved, it could go into production at any time, including during the month. So, a C80, or C90, or whatever, that's produced before the new build goes into production, will be the same as C60, or C70, or whatever units. C80, or C90, or whatever units that are produced AFTER the new build goes into production won't have the problem.
This whole "if you have a CX0 unit you won't have problems" meme needs to just die already.
First was a C60K. It was "perfect", but I returned it because I thought the washed out colors and video playback issues were defects.
Second was a C60K. It had raised glass on the left side (couldn't push it down, something forced it up). I returned it.
Third is a C70K (and what I'm still using). It has lifted glass on the left side. I was able to push it down, clamped it over night and it stayed down a week. Now it's lifting again. I may return it eventually, but waiting a bit longer to make sure the manufacturing issues are mostly resolved.
Fourth Nexus 7 was a C60K I picked up from Staples. It was "perfect", I was thinking about getting a refund on my third Nexus 7 16GB and switching to this 8GB model. But ended up changing my mind, so returned it.
---------- Post added at 04:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:45 PM ----------
wynand32 said:
However, before a fix can be implemented in manufacturing, it has to be designed, then tested, and then new parts produced, and then test manufacturing runs performed, and changes made to the manufacturing process. I'm probably missing some steps as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That sounds like you are talking about a hardware revision. The hardware for the most part seems okay. The problem is the the manufacturing process seems to not be perfect and quite a few defects are slipping through. The hardware doesn't need to be redesigned, their process needs to be fine tuned.
And to me it's reasonable to believe that the manufacturing process could have gone through some refinements between the C60K batch and the C70K batch and more in the C80K batch. A perfect C80K is no better than a perfect C60K, but hopefully the chances of getting a defect are going down as they fix whatever was going on in the process that caused these defects.
Have a C70k unit, everything was perfect (I think) but recently noticed that my speakers have blown (very distorted sound). Waiting for my replacemrntunit before I send this back.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
c70k 16 Gb reporting in as perfect!
Waiting for C90K production runs hopefully with the newer Hydis color corrected 1280x800 IPS Displays or SHARP 1280x800 IPS Displays. Really cant get past the Pastel greens, and slightly purple blue colors. And thats on a good display some people are living with Yellow tint screens or blue tints. Its the one main thing of a tablet, GET THE DISPLAY RIGHT.
c50k
mine is a c50k and it is in good shape.
rster53682 said:
mine is a c50k and it is in good shape.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
White Google IO model or just pulling our legs?
Ravynmagi said:
White Google IO model or just pulling our legs?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it is a black production model,and not pulling legs
My C60 is perfect. No screen lift, no dead pixels, good sound, etc. etc. etc.
All we have us anecdotes...nothing to base anything on. This board is not a good sample.
c60 so far so good
C60K here. The Nexus7 that I have is perfect. No problems or defects at all.
I got mine Shield Tablet on Saturday, at the Gamestop in PalmBay, FL (Closest Place that had them in stock). They had 2 remaining in stock after I got mine. They did not have the cover or controller.
Mine is replacing a Nexus 7 (2013). The lack of an SD Card slot in the Nexus was really bugging me.
The Shield tablet's front-facing ported speakers are also very noticeably better.
I also find it amazing how much easier it is to see the screen (I wear reading glasses), despite the fact that there is not that much difference in size. I need to see if the DPI set lower in build.prop.
The only thing I miss is Near-Field, and that is more appropriate to have on a phone, so it is no big omission, but I guess it means no more tap-to-pay for me until I get a new phone.
The Nexus 7 was definitely a "Settle-for" when I bought it, because I could not find anything that met my requirements, but the Shield does meet all of them:
-- Standard USB charging
-- 8 inch tablet with a worthy resolution
-- Front facing stereo speakers
-- Standard ports and slots
(There was a Chinese Tablet that met the specs: The FNF iFive X2, it was also cheaper, but I was a little worried about the firmware, and firmware updates on a tablet like that.)
I also got 20% off on the Nexus 7, so I went for it at the time.
To be clear, IMHO, the Shield Tablet would not be worth $115 more than the Nexus 7 ($229 - 20% = $185 vs $299) (if you can get one at that price), but at the same time, I think it is worth $70 more --- It's that close.
Ironically, the Nexus 7 will now be used for Gaming, and the Shield is my "Work Tablet".
More details comparing the 2 if anyone is interested.
Small world. I bought mine at the same place on Saturday also. I went in Friday night and they had 3. I wanted to see it in person but they didn't have a display up. I decided to sleep on it as I'm replacing my aging Nexus 10 and was concerned about the size. Saturday I decided to go for it so I actually called GS to hold one for me. By the time I got there, the other two were gone and I got the last one. So far I'm very pleased with it. Just waiting on a controller to round out. Performance of this thing is unbelievable! Getting used to its size and almost makes my N10 feel bulky in comparison. Good purchase!
Wow! Yeah, it is a small planet.
I was in Best Buy on Friday night, and the salesman said that they were not going to get them until October. He said that 8 people a day were asking for them.
That's when I called GS, and... we both know the story. If one was on hold for you, and another must have sold shortly after I got mine, I guess it was lucky that I got there fairly early.
Picked mine up at the microcenter in minneapolis while on vacation. LOVE that tablet. Only gripe is that x-com doesn't work on it. Crashes as soon as you try to start a game.
After 2 years and 1 month my Pixel C got the split screen and black screen issue and seems to have died. I spent an hour on Google chat seeing if they could resolve the issue but they wiped their hands and said get a local repairer to fix it. The problem is no local repairer's are able to fix it as Google don't make it anymore, so they don't have the parts! I need a new tablet. I don't want to go down the Apple route if possible. Does anyone have a recommendations for cheap, powerful rootable tablets 10 inch in size? I was thinking about the Huawei Mediapad M5, but after Google's announcement yesterday I am not so sure. Any idea's?
At this point, Samsung is basically the last bastion of powerful Android tablets. I don't think they have unlockable bootloaders but I'm not 100% on that. The tab s4 has a SD 835 and the s5e has a SD 670. Both have similar cpu performance to the tegra X1, though the GPU will be worse on both. That said, they both can be had for around 400-600$ depending on spec. Tablet size I believe is the same, but the screen is bigger and oled. More RAM and more storage by default. I wish there were more options, because I too was looking at the mediapad m5 until the other day. Now I'm looking at either one of these Samsung tablets, or just picking up a used pixel c. Hope that helps a little.
If you don't want a Samsung tablet (I can't stand Samsung) then you might be better off just buying a used Pixel C off of eBay. They are going for between $150 and $200. I think you are going to have trouble finding a better deal than that.
There are some interesting tablets out of China using iPad and Microsoft Surface screens. They are cheap and you need to be careful about finding one that has a community of supporters. TechTablets maintains a list of recommended tablets that have been reviewed. You have to understand that you are not getting something of the quality of a Pixel C or iPad. That being said, you get a ton of bang for your buck. Especially if there are community-based ROMs available for them. https://techtablets.com/recommended-chinese-tablets-brands/
You also might want to check out the Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Plus if you want something that is getting active development on XDA developers. It uses a 16:10 screen which is kind of a balls aspect ratio for a tablet in my opinion but it has decent guts and can be had for $285-$300 on AliExpress. I just got its 8" little brother, the Mi Pad 4. The MIUI OS that it comes with is not horrible but it's a lot better once you install an AOSP ROM on it like Havoc OS.
Thanks for your input. I have decided to get the Huawei tablet, so we'll see what happens. Oddly since Google told me to do one and I was unable to get it fixed by only local suppliers I found a video on youtube showing the problem and a possible (maybe temporary) fix.
It involved lifting the top of the screen from the back and adjusting the display ribbon cable. I tried it, but couldn't do it and cracked the screen in the process (hairline).
The day after Google emailed and said they were assessing my chat with them and asked if there was any liquid damage to the tablet and to send them 4 pictures of each side of the tablet (front, back and both sides).
Why do you think they want to do that, and if they were going to give me a refurbished tablet do you think they still will if I explain my story with a link to the youtube video? Cheers for any replies in advance.
mightywhites29111971 said:
Thanks for your input. I have decided to get the Huawei tablet, so we'll see what happens. Oddly since Google told me to do one and I was unable to get it fixed by only local suppliers I found a video on youtube showing the problem and a possible (maybe temporary) fix.
It involved lifting the top of the screen from the back and adjusting the display ribbon cable. I tried it, but couldn't do it and cracked the screen in the process (hairline).
The day after Google emailed and said they were assessing my chat with them and asked if there was any liquid damage to the tablet and to send them 4 pictures of each side of the tablet (front, back and both sides).
Why do you think they want to do that, and if they were going to give me a refurbished tablet do you think they still will if I explain my story with a link to the youtube video? Cheers for any replies in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am curious, did you ever hear back from Google?
12paq said:
I am curious, did you ever hear back from Google?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did. I sent them the pictures of my device and explained to them how I got the crack, which I got when trying to follow this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb3By2Z-Zt4
They said as it has physical damage they would not do anything. Even though I explained the damage was done trying to fix the device as they or no-one else would. They didn't even offer to look at it, as the problem is the ribbon cable for the screen, and me trying to open the device up will not have affected what was the issue in the first place. Google's customer service is abysmal. Apple would not treat its customers this way IMO.
Odd. Sorry that went ****ty for you.
A year ago I tried to fix my Pixel C's stuck power button and cracked the screen badly. I told Google what happened and they sent me a new Pixel C. I didn't purchase a protection plan and it was more than a year old... I don't get it. ?
I'm selling my Pixel C 32Gb in like new condition with adapter & cover through Amazon EU Fulfillment. It is bootloader unlocked and comes with latest Pixel Experience installed. Shipping & payment will be done through Amazon so if interested, send me PM for the link.
12paq said:
Odd. Sorry that went ****ty for you.
A year ago I tried to fix my Pixel C's stuck power button and cracked the screen badly. I told Google what happened and they sent me a new Pixel C. I didn't purchase a protection plan and it was more than a year old... I don't get it. ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Neither do I. Not even a cursory offer to look at it and then say it was my fault. It's like they're saying 'we dont' make tablets any more so if you have any problems then tough ****'. I now have the Huawei Mediapad M5 and as nice a tablet as it is it's not quite the same
I am keeping an eye out for a new tablet but I am pretty picky about it so I might have to wait. I essentially would like the Pixel C again* but faster and with more Android appropriate hardware (think GPS, haptic feedback, better touch screen, cameras that don't entirely suck in every way possible). Either same size with larger screen (smaller bezels) or a bit larger overall would be good too. The new Samsung tablet with the SD855 is something I'll look at. The rumored Nvidia tablet also will merit a look. But for now I will save my money.
*This to me means a decent keyboard accessory, mostly stock/Google Android, open bootloader, and higher quality components.
I've been debating what to upgrade to for awhile now. Then I noticed on eBay there was a seller who is unloading a batch of near new Pixel C 32gb. I sniped an auction at the end and got one for $122.00 US. The tablet is almost new and running fine. For the price, I am going to stay with the Pixel C for a bit longer.
If this is an option for you guys check out eBay. It prolonging the inevitable, but the price is right.
I also hope that mine will run forever. I have it now for about three and a half years and it's still going strong. If mine goes down, I think about getting another one before I try any Samsung tablet. I can't stand anz of the current models, to be honest.
What about Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Plus? It has Snapdragon 660 and I saw a price of $225.
I accidentally stepped on my Fire HD 8 and broke the screen. All I can see now is just random color lights and cracks. I bought it two years ago. It is very likely HD 8 2020 (10th generation). I think the only thing I can do is replace the LCD screen. But I need to go to the setting to confirm what generation it is in order to buy the LCD replacement. Of course, I can send it to a professional repair shop. But that will probably cost me the price of a used HD 8 (or perhaps a new HD 8). Just wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions for me.