ESim on verizon - Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers

Has anyone been able to use an ESim with Verizon? I can't seem to get it working, I called Verizon twice, was told it will work once (but they couldn't get it to) was told it won't work the next time, and pixel support said it might work in a couple months. Just wondering if anyone else has had any luck or more definitive answers. Thanks

maximus4 said:
Has anyone been able to use an ESim with Verizon? I can't seem to get it working, I called Verizon twice, was told it will work once (but they couldn't get it to) was told it won't work the next time, and pixel support said it might work in a couple months. Just wondering if anyone else has had any luck or more definitive answers. Thanks
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eSim does not work on Verizon unless you have an iPhone. Do the Verizon branded P4s even have an eSim available for any carrier activation? Up until now they didn't. Verizon disables eSim on their phones up to and including the 3a.

Yes the Verizon P4 esim is available and not deactivated. I have not tried it yet but was planning on going into a store to see. ?

bono81310 said:
Yes the Verizon P4 esim is available and not deactivated. I have not tried it yet but was planning on going into a store to see. ?
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I'd be really curious to know what you found out.

I have an unlocked P4 and was a no go. It's more on VZW end until they allow it now. Bummer?

Edit.. hmm @bono81310 Anyway good try.. Verizon doesn't care and they won't do a thing about it. Apple demanded it or they couldn't sell their phones. Yeah I know it's frustrating.

Well I solved my issue this morning by porting my Verizon over to fi. It's funny that they will sell the phone even though they don't fully support it, but I've been burned by them in the past via the locked down phones they sell.

maximus4 said:
Well I solved my issue this morning by porting my Verizon over to fi. It's funny that they will sell the phone even though they don't fully support it, but I've been burned by them in the past via the locked down phones they sell.
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Can't blame you for that. I have Fi too and it's a pretty good service. I need it for my business line. Where did you buy the device, just curious?

bobby janow said:
Can't blame you for that. I have Fi too and it's a pretty good service. I need it for my business line. Where did you buy the device, just curious?
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I got it from Google, got my pixel 2 from Verizon when I was in a bind and learned it was locked down the hard way....

So if I purchased an unlocked p4, can I use fi esim and vz sim together?

larod213 said:
So if I purchased an unlocked p4, can I use fi esim and vz sim together?
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Yes.

I'm currently not In a "supported" country.
"Tap the + icon next to Mobile network."
The plus icon is not present.
Is this something the carrier has to support?
My carrier supports Apple iPhone esims.
Constructively speaking would I have to approach my carrier to get this to work?
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I bought a Verizon bad esn Pixel 3 XL off ebay and i was able to use it overseas (outside usa) on GSM network without problems.
If I buy a Verizon Pixel 4 with bad esn, will it be same or it will be locked to Verizon?
If no, anyone know how much unlock will cost?

stanley08 said:
I bought a Verizon bad esn Pixel 3 XL off ebay and i was able to use it overseas (outside usa) on GSM network without problems.
If I buy a Verizon Pixel 4 with bad esn, will it be same or it will be locked to Verizon?
If no, anyone know how much unlock will cost?
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What are you talking about? Are you serious?

bobby janow said:
What are you talking about? Are you serious?
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Are you trolling me or what?
Sorry if I'm off topic but I'm looking for answers

stanley08 said:
Are you trolling me or what?
Sorry if I'm off topic but I'm looking for answers
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I don't troll. Answers to what? If you have a bad esn? Stop playing games.

Can't post the URL, I guess ?.... But last month, Verizon AT&T and GSMA agreed to end the eSim restrictions to avoid a class action lawsuit..
https://www.phonearena.com/news/DOJ...to-collusion-by-Verizon-ATT-and-GSMA_id120753
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Will this agreement force Verizon to unlock the eSim feature on our phones?

I tested T-Mobile network using network pass. Esim worked fine, however since that I've had issues with my phone dropping service unless I'm sitting still in the center of town. Prolly unrelated but who knows yet.

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[Q] Unlock code for SPH-L720

Hello guys, is there any way I could unlock my Galaxy S IV to use internationally, other than calling to sprint getting the unlock code, because Ive already tried that and the phone has to be active at least 90 days...Please let me know if there are any other ways. I tried to search the forum first but could not find my answer. Thanks...
ajigago1 said:
Hello guys, is there any way I could unlock my Galaxy S IV to use internationally, other than calling to sprint getting the unlock code, because Ive already tried that and the phone has to be active at least 90 days...Please let me know if there are any other ways. I tried to search the forum first but could not find my answer. Thanks...
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So I'm just like you ..I bought a Galaxy S 4 from Amazon U.S. via Sprint ..I am of the population of Dubai in the Middle East ..I had never visited America ..The device does not accept any slice is Sprint slice ..I hope to resolve this issue for those who know
How many of these threads are we going to keep seeing.
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GiantJay said:
How many of these threads are we going to keep seeing.
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If you really think about this question alot, I would say that no one has really given them a definitive answer. Now that I have helped you out with your question probably you can help these people with an answer to their woes.
Nautilusus said:
If you really think about this question alot, I would say that no one has really given them a definitive answer. Now that I have helped you out with your question probably you can help these people with an answer to their woes.
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It really has. Just people are tired of saying NO. So the questions either get danced around of ignored. If people want to use a phone internationally, they should have gotten a GSM phone. There is a reason why CDMA phones are cheaper, especially Sprint. They only work here without any hassle. And that's never going to change. End of story.
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It really has. Just people are tired of saying NO. So the questions either get danced around of ignored. If people want to use a phone internationally, they should have gotten a GSM phone. There is a reason why CDMA phones are cheaper, especially Sprint. They only work here without any hassle. And that's never going to change. End of story.
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Then Sprint must stop advertising them as international devices. End of story
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It really has. Just people are tired of saying NO. So the questions either get danced around of ignored. If people want to use a phone internationally, they should have gotten a GSM phone. There is a reason why CDMA phones are cheaper, especially Sprint. They only work here without any hassle. And that's never going to change. End of story.
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Still......... that answer is inaccurate and condescending. Forums here are to help , just as you took the time to post........ could it have been more positive than negative? Anyway to answer the OP................ SPH-l720 is indeed a CDMA device which has a UICC/ SIM port. This port, when using the phone in CDMA mode Sprint's UICC (sim card) activates the LTE side of things. However if you can get Sprint to release the UICC card and unlock the port for GSM use, then guess what? You have a GSM abled phone that can switch back to CDMA, which in my opinion makes the SPH-L720 and the SCH-i545 trully a World phone or viable international mobile. So that takes care of that bit, the phone IS capable of GSM.
What if I am already out of the country??? You can still get it activated via Sprint international...... but this is not why you are on XDA looking for a solution. The reason why you are here is for some reason Sprint will not activate the GSM function or even calling them will not make a difference and you are looking for a software solution. Well as of the date of this post, 7/5/2013, there is none. Not to say that it will not happen but there are very few with unlocked versions of this phone to supply data needed. Usually when people get their phone's unlocked there is no need to add to the online database anymore. So have faith and patience, and I hope this helps someone and in turn someone can help me.
obender said:
Then Sprint must stop advertising them as international devices. End of story
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I have to strongly disagree with you on that because:
You most definitely can use the phone internationally, albeit while paying Sprint's outrageous international roaming rates (though of course they are not the only ones who overcharge for this functionality, all carriers charge an arm and a leg for international roaming).
Sprint will unlock the phone for contracted subscribers who wish to use the phone internationally but want to avoid paying Sprint's roaming rates.
Beyond these two items, I don't see what obligation Sprint has as far as international capability on the device towards folks who are not their subscribers. I personally don't think they have any. If those folks want GSM capability, then they shouldn't buy a Sprint branded unit.
As for the other "how many of these threads are we going to have" issue... Well, I second that sentiment! What bothers me is that people are too lazy to do a search, instead opening a new thread on this question. I almost wish any time a mod sees a question like this, answer with "answered over and over before, please do a search" and lock the thread.
myphone12345 said:
I have to strongly disagree with you on that because:
You most definitely can use the phone internationally, albeit while paying Sprint's outrageous international roaming rates (though of course they are not the only ones who overcharge for this functionality, all carriers charge an arm and a leg for international roaming).
Sprint will unlock the phone for contracted subscribers who wish to use the phone internationally but want to avoid paying Sprint's roaming rates.
Beyond these two items, I don't see what obligation Sprint has as far as international capability on the device towards folks who are not their subscribers. I personally don't think they have any. If those folks want GSM capability, then they shouldn't buy a Sprint branded unit.
As for the other "how many of these threads are we going to have" issue... Well, I second that sentiment! What bothers me is that people are too lazy to do a search, instead opening a new thread on this question. I almost wish any time a mod sees a question like this, answer with "answered over and over before, please do a search" and lock the thread.
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Entrance to the rabbit hole https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNHFeC8nuAhGoBP3neJLt7JHD1gKeQ
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Then Sprint must stop advertising them as international devices. End of story
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Nope. Sorry. When you sell subsidized phones and people take advantage of that and skip out on the contract, you have to cover your ass, hence the 90 day wait to establish a good pattern. I got mine unlocked in 30 days, but I've been a 20 line customer for 15+ years.
If you tried to get an intl phone on the cheap, then shame on you for not doing enough research. I would bet Verizon S4 a more expensive because they do come unlocked because of some fcc reg on the bandwidth their frequencies.
If your goal was to just use it internationally only, then you should very sucked it up and bought a gsm only phone. The Dubai guy never having stepped foot in the US should have purchased more wisely.
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I called Sprint to get my phone unlocked and they did it the next day. I've been a customer for almost 2 years. I bought my phone off contract though.
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GiantJay said:
I called Sprint to get my phone unlocked and they did it the next day. I've been a customer for almost 2 years. I bought my phone off contract though.
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well as you did a dump from your phone
MELVINUA said:
well as you did a dump from your phone
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What?
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tell us more as you sprint unblocked phone
enter code or other metods????
if the injected code. as you did * # #
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tell us more as you sprint unblocked phone
enter code or other metods????
if the injected code. as you did * # #
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call sprint and have them unlock your phone. its the only way.
Download - modem_FLASHABLE_MDK.zip [MD5=167fcdd5bd57e4dc78946a63c8c69d46]
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GiantJay said:
I called Sprint to get my phone unlocked and they did it the next day. I've been a customer for almost 2 years. I bought my phone off contract though.
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Can you please do nandroid backup ?and modem backup? i will try to flash it .
fantsay777 said:
Can you please do nandroid backup ?and modem backup? i will try to flash it .
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It would be good
lafester said:
call sprint and have them unlock your phone. its the only way.
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Yep. I'm a Sprint customer and I Live in the USA. I called them and they did it for me. They said press the UICC Unlock button now and it will be done. That's it. I am baffled as to why people bought a Licked CDMA Sprint phone for international GSM use permanently just because it has GSM capabilities. They just don't understand USA carriers I guess. Lol.
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GiantJay said:
Yep. I'm a Sprint customer and I Live in the USA. I called them and they did it for me. They said press the UICC Unlock button now and it will be done. That's it. I am baffled as to why people bought a Licked CDMA Sprint phone for international GSM use permanently just because it has GSM capabilities. They just don't understand USA carriers I guess. Lol.
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my phone searching gsm network in my country but phone write invalid sim.
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GiantJay said:
Yep. I'm a Sprint customer and I Live in the USA. I called them and they did it for me. They said press the UICC Unlock button now and it will be done. That's it. I am baffled as to why people bought a Licked CDMA Sprint phone for international GSM use permanently just because it has GSM capabilities. They just don't understand USA carriers I guess. Lol.
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We need copies of your phone to take the necessary files to unlock. help me and everyone here. Make a backup of your phone

[All CDMA Carriers] Before Buying a Nexus 6, Consider Where You Buy It

Just wanted to post a public service here for y'all.
If you're buying a Nexus 6 and plan to activate it on Verizon, Sprint, or US Cellular, you should either buy it from your carrier of choice or from Google Play. Unless Google pulled off a miracle (unlikely), all the CDMA carriers will only have IMEI numbers whitelisted for devices sold from Google Play and devices sold by that carrier.
In other words, if you're planning to skip Google Play and instead buy one from T-Mobile at full price, then walk over to a Verizon store and activate it, it's not going to happen.
Further, if you're buying a Nexus 6 and expect to be able to activate it on any of the 5 supported carriers at the drop of a hat, buy it from Google Play and don't even consider buying it from a carrier.
If you want a more in-depth explanation, I made a video on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cCT_ifWGLs
UPDATE
Now that people are getting their Nexus 6s, we've got some more concrete information. Keep in mind that every Nexus 6 sold in the US supports CDMA. The problem is, unless you buy it from specific places, the carriers' systems won't allow activation.
VERIZON:
Verizon is not officially allowing any Nexus 6 on its network yet, however, that's only through official channels.
If you have an already-active line, you can take your SIM card (cut it down to nano size if necessary), put it into any Nexus 6 (no matter where you bought it), and you're good to go. If you need a new line of service, you'll have to activate using an IMEI number of a display device that takes a nano SIM (I'd recommend an HTC One M8 or a DROID Turbo), then once you get your SIM card, put it in your Nexus 6 and you'll be golden. And no, this is not stealing IMEI numbers. The minute that SIM goes into your Nexus 6, the display model's IMEI number is freed up. There's nothing morally questionable about this method at all.
SPRINT:
Sprint will currently allow devices sold from Google Play, Motorola, Sprint, and AT&T. We aren't sure about devices purchased from T-Mobile, or US Cellular. Since Sprint whitelists devices at network level, your MEID must be in the system in order for your device to actually handshake with the network. The Verizon trick of using an already-activated SIM card won't work for Sprint.
US CELLULAR:
USCC will activate devices that they sell, as well as ones purchased from Google Play. I attempted to activate my AT&T-purchased phone on USCC and the MEID (IMEI minus the last digit) was not in their system, therefore it could not be activated. Since USCC, like Sprint, whitelists devices at a network level, the Verizon trick of using an already-activated SIM card will not work. There is presently no word on whether or not USCC will activate phones purchased from Motorola, but I'd bet the answer is no, at least for now.
Great explanation. Thanks. I'll definitely be buying mine from the Play Store for use on Verizon.
So your implying that one cannot buy a T-Mobile Nexus and then use it on ATT? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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chipstien said:
So your implying that one cannot buy a T-Mobile Nexus and then use it on ATT? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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You fail at understanding "CDMA".
chipstien said:
So your implying that one cannot buy a T-Mobile Nexus and then use it on ATT? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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So you're implying that ATT is now a CDMA network? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
Given that they don't know where you bought the device..... and the fact that you can buy a device from Google, that's designed and advertised to work on all carriers..... and the fact that there is only one sku for all NA variants.... and they aren't making you choose a carrier when you order one..... This myth is busted. If I buy one from TMobile and take it to Verizon I can simply say I bought it from Google..... In which case they have to honor it because Google is selling it as compatible with all carriers.... Do you see? There isn't a "verizon" N6. If there was you would have to provide your carrier of choice at checkout. Otherwise the idea that they are comparing IMEIs is bunk.
lets say this is all true and u cant do that......what if i get from motorola site?
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Given that they don't know where you bought the device..... and the fact that you can buy a device from Google, that's designed and advertised to work on all carriers..... and the fact that there is only one sku for all NA variants.... and they aren't making you choose a carrier when you order one..... This myth is busted. If I buy one from TMobile and take it to Verizon I can simply say I bought it from Google..... In which case they have to honor it because Google is selling it as compatible with all carriers.... Do you see? There isn't a "verizon" N6. If there was you would have to provide your carrier of choice at checkout. Otherwise the idea that they are comparing IMEIs is bunk.
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seems it was the case for the N5. https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/150262
So it is very likely the same case would happen to the N6.
I planned on buying from the play store anyways.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
Honestly, anything at this point is purely speculation. I don't think you can confidently say that buying from t-mobile means your phone won't work on sprint or vzw...
I just hope vzw hasn't done something really dumb and only recognize IMEI numbers sold through THEM (not even google).
oldblue910 said:
Further, if you're buying a Nexus 6 and expect to be able to activate it on any of the 5 supported carriers at the drop of a hat, buy it from Google Play and don't even consider buying it from a carrier.
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elkay said:
You fail at understanding "CDMA".
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f1ip said:
So you're implying that ATT is now a CDMA network? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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Quite the contrary, I understand CDMA well enough to not consider it if it was the last technology left still in use. (Ex Red subscriber). I totally agree that CDMA providers will need to whitelist the imei#. But by the OP's quote that I highlighted he said "any of the 5 supported carriers". Last I checked, 2 of the 5 supported carriers were GSM. (AT&T and T-Mobile in case you didn't know). I specifically was saying that I call BS that a T-Mobile phone would have any issues what-so-ever starting up and working on a AT&T network. So either you'll are misunderstanding me or I am more tired than I thought and have misread the OP in which case my bad...
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Typo? No longer carrying it?
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6102470
halon17 said:
Typo? No longer carrying it?
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6102470
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I would hope typo....Still showing verizon on here.....https://www.google.com/nexus/6/
funkyboy1281 said:
I would hope typo....Still showing verizon on here.....https://www.google.com/nexus/6/
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Yep. I noticed that. Moto site still has cdma supported also. There better be some clarification later today. I belive VZ also told Kellex at droidlife they were going to offer the NexSix?
halon17 said:
Yep. I noticed that. Moto site still has cdma supported also. There better be some clarification later today. I belive VZ also told Kellex at droidlife they were going to offer the NexSix?
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Yea they sure did. I'll definitely be holding off now until I'm 100% sure it's a go on Verizon.
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I would hope typo....Still showing verizon on here.....https://www.google.com/nexus/6/
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I'm wondering if the Play Store units are only compatible with TMo and ATT. Look at the way the carriers are listed on that image. TMo and ATT are above the line with the Play Store link. The CDMA carriers are below the line on their own. That can't be an accident.
Alright guys, time out.
Every Nexus 6 sold in the US, no matter where it's purchased from, will technically work on all 5 carriers. The issue is, the CDMA carriers won't have IMEI numbers white listed for stock sold from other carriers. Based on the IMEI number of your phone, I can tell what color it is, how much storage it has, and where it was sold.
You can activate any Nexus 6 purchased anywhere on AT&T or T-Mobile because they're GSM and don't care where it's from.
You cannot buy a device from anywhere and activate it on Verizon, Sprint, or US Cellular, though. You can lie and tell then you bought it from Play but it won't matter. If you purchased your phone anywhere other than Play or the CDMA carrier you're trying to activate with, they won't have your phone's IMEI in their database, thus no activation.
As for devices purchased from Motorola, I'm not going to speculate because I have no history to go on, but I would imagine that those would be OK as well.
T-Mobile and AT&T will take any Nexus 6 sold anywhere.
Verizon will take a Nexus 6 sold from Play or Verizon.
Sprint will take a Nexus 6 sold from Play or Sprint.
US Cellular will take a Nexus 6 sold from Play or US Cellular.
It doesn't matter that your Nexus 6 that you bought at T-Mobile works fine on al the CDMA carriers (and it will). The CDMA carriers will not activate it purely because the phone won't have a whitelisted IMEI number due to the fact that it wasn't purchased from that carrier or Play. It's no more or less complicated than that.
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neyenlives said:
Given that they don't know where you bought the device..... and the fact that you can buy a device from Google, that's designed and advertised to work on all carriers..... and the fact that there is only one sku for all NA variants.... and they aren't making you choose a carrier when you order one..... This myth is busted. If I buy one from TMobile and take it to Verizon I can simply say I bought it from Google..... In which case they have to honor it because Google is selling it as compatible with all carriers.... Do you see? There isn't a "verizon" N6. If there was you would have to provide your carrier of choice at checkout. Otherwise the idea that they are comparing IMEIs is bunk.
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That sounds logical, except its not how the cdma carriers work. The iphone 4s (and now the 6 and 6 plus in the US, though sprint has a different model, but verizon uses the same model as att/tmobile) was the same model for cdma and gsm, but it wouldn't work on cdma networks unless originally purchased from a cdma network. Basically they whitelisted imei numbers to only activate iphones that were orignally purchased on cdma networks even though the model was capable of both gsm/cdma.
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That sounds logical, except its not how the cdma carriers work. The iphone 4s (and now the 6 and 6 plus in the US, though sprint has a different model, but verizon uses the same model as att/tmobile) was the same model for cdma and gsm, but it wouldn't work on cdma networks unless originally purchased from a cdma network. Basically they whitelisted imei numbers to only activate iphones that were orignally purchased on cdma networks even though the model was capable of both gsm/cdma.
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I think what a lot of people don't understand is that you can tell by a phones IMEI number where it was purchased, it's color, the storage, and model number. So you're exactly right. The CDMA carriers only whitelist the devices that they sell, and they enforce that via the IMEI number.
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Honestly, anything at this point is purely speculation. I don't think you can confidently say that buying from t-mobile means your phone won't work on sprint or vzw...
I just hope vzw hasn't done something really dumb and only recognize IMEI numbers sold through THEM (not even google).
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The only time I have ever heard of Verizon allowing a non-Verizon or non-Play Store sold device on their network is by someone having an insider connection and white-listing it. I think it's pretty safe to say that if you buy a device from T-mobile, it will not work on Verizon, unless Verizon changes the policy that is has had in place for years.
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So your implying that one cannot buy a T-Mobile Nexus and then use it on ATT? I would have to say BS in this particular scenario IMO.
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An N6 bought from T-Mobile will work on AT&T and vice-versa. The OP was specifically referring to CDMA carriers.
EDIT: Ninja'd by oldblue910

T-Mobile Nexus 6 works on all carriers CONFIRMED

Hey guys,
I just purchased a nexus 6 from t-mobile and popped in a sim from att, sprint, and Verizon. I can confirm all 3 worked flawlessly with no problems.
At the device start up, i did skip the part where it tried to activate on the network the sim was from.
If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.
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If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.
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Are you seeing the issue of voice + data not working at the same time? When I'm on a call on Verizon, Wi-Fi works, but mobile data shuts off... is this just Verizon, or is this a "feature"?
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Are you seeing the issue of voice + data not working at the same time? When I'm on a call on Verizon, Wi-Fi works, but mobile data shuts off... is this just Verizon, or is this a "feature"?
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That is not activated on Verizon...
But what I do want to know is if Verizon will whitelist the imei numbers . because I am soooo ready to pull the trigger to buy at a tmobile store. Did you have to activate the tmobile first? That's what the rep is telling me here
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Are you seeing the issue of voice + data not working at the same time? When I'm on a call on Verizon, Wi-Fi works, but mobile data shuts off... is this just Verizon, or is this a "feature"?
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Unless something has changed with CDMA technology, the Verizon phones shouldn't be able to use data while on an active call. I know they are working to get that working with some new LTE standard but I haven't heard anything about it being here yet.
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That is not activated on Verizon...
But what I do want to know is if Verizon will whitelist the imei numbers . because I am soooo ready to pull the trigger to buy at a tmobile store. Did you have to activate the tmobile first? That's what the rep is telling me here
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I'm considering switching to TMo anyway, so I picked up 30 days of pre-paid with the phone for 45$. I plan to try both carriers on my commute, see how signal is on both carriers on the train ride, downtown at work, etc. before making up my mind, and this device makes it as easy as swapping the SIM out!
The issue I had, was I didn't have a nano-SIM. Verizon rep at the store told me there was nothing they could do... I told them if he got me a nano-SIM, that customer support could active it... He gave me a SIM and let me use their phone to call Support to activate it. The support person did a "SIM swap" for my existing device, even though my Note3 obviously doesn't use a nano-SIM.. but that's all it took to activate the nano-SIM, and it works perfectly.
I may be misunderstanding your question... I believe the confusion is that you don't actually activate the phone... you activate the SIM IN the device. You should be able to take the phone out of the box, and drop in an already activated SIM and all will work fine...
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Unless something has changed with CDMA technology, the Verizon phones shouldn't be able to use data while on an active call. I know they are working to get that working with some new LTE standard but I haven't heard anything about it being here yet.
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Thank you for confirming, that's exactly what I needed to know! I'm sure I can live without needing mobile data while on a call...
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I'm considering switching to TMo anyway, so I picked up 30 days of pre-paid with the phone for 45$. I plan to try both carriers on my commute, see how signal is on both carriers on the train ride, downtown at work, etc. before making up my mind, and this device makes it as easy as swapping the SIM out!
The issue I had, was I didn't have a nano-SIM. Verizon rep at the store told me there was nothing they could do... I told them if he got me a nano-SIM, that customer support could active it... He gave me a SIM and let me use their phone to call Support to activate it. The support person did a "SIM swap" for my existing device, even though my Note3 obviously doesn't use a nano-SIM.. but that's all it took to activate the nano-SIM, and it works perfectly.
I may be misunderstanding your question... I believe the confusion is that you don't actually activate the phone... you activate the SIM IN the device. You should be able to take the phone out of the box, and drop in an already activated SIM and all will work fine...
Thank you for confirming, that's exactly what I needed to know! I'm sure I can live without needing mobile data while on a call...
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I know it works. My question is. Would Verizon block the imei or device I.d.s later down the road to where it doesn't work and only the imei that's been sold on Google play works.
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I know it works. My question is. Would Verizon block the imei or device I.d.s later down the road to where it doesn't work and only the imei that's been sold on Google play works.
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Good luck getting your answer. If the device suddenly stops working on Big Red, I'll post here (as soon as I've completed my switch to another carrier).
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Good luck getting your answer. If the device suddenly stops working on Big Red, I'll post here (as soon as I've completed my switch to another carrier).
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Lol. Yea that's what I was worried about. I didn't want to buy it then down the road oh yea this I.d. doesn't work anymore.
I did not register my device on T-Mobile at all. Just popped the other sims in.
What I'm told is that carriers only care about imei when activating for the first time. If you just put your own sim in there they just can't see the device type which really doesn't matter unless you're looking to call them for support.
T mobile store gave me **** about buying the phone out right. I had to get a friend to add me as an authorized user on his account to buy the phone OUTRIGHT. So stupid...
Also, at T-Mobile the phone out right was 649 where everyone else is like 50 or 40 bucks more which was also sweet.
I also did not get bloat Ware on the phone from the carriers.
The devices CDMA identifier (MEID??) needs to be in the carriers whitelist so if the OP didn't place a voice call over either the Sprint or Verizon networks itnis not "safe" to to say it works on all carriers.
This is supposed to be one model for all of the US with 4 SKUs for the variations, and it should work but there is still the question of whether the CDMA carrier. Allows the phone on their network.
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I can confirm I've activated my nexus bought directly from moto on both sprint and T-Mobile. Both voice and data worked with each carrier. Sprint takes a little more when than just putting the Sim in. They need to activate the MEID in their system. You can't just put an active Sim from another phone in and have it work.
Interesting..
Other users have reported the exact opposite.
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Interesting..
Other users have reported the exact opposite.
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If you referring to activating one on sprint, I was one of those users. Since Monday haven't been able to activate it until this morning.
seezar said:
If you referring to activating one on sprint, I was one of those users. Since Monday haven't been able to activate it until this morning.
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Yep, talking about Sprint. IIRC, there were multiple threads on here saying you can only activate on CDMA carriers if you buy from them or Google Play.
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Yep, talking about Sprint. IIRC, there were multiple threads on here saying you can only activate on CDMA carriers if you buy from them or Google Play.
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What about activating on Verizon?
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Buying from T-Mo living in a non-T-Mo area
Yes. I must be one of the only people on here in the U.S. not living in a T-Mo area.
I just ordered from T-Mo (64GB MB). After much conversation and clarification, I've learned that one can buy a Nexus 6 from them outright, which requires also buying a $10 SIM activation kit. Since I do not live in a T-Mo area, I will have to call and cancel my 'yet-to-be-activated' plan, which also required a $50 deposit. By utilizing T-Mo's "buyer's remorse", I will be able to keep the phone, since I bought it outright, but will be refunded my $50 deposit for the service, without ever having to activate it on T-Mo's network. From there, I will pop in my AT&T SIM card, and be on my way! The only thing I'll be out is the $10 SIM activation kit.
Also, the rep's did acknowledge that the Nexus 6 is one of the few phones they have that are already unlocked.
Please do critique this if you foresee any problems I'll have popping in my AT&T SIM and using my existing service with them.
EDIT: Yargh. T-Mo had zero 64GB phones, and have since called me back to tell me they are on back order. But hey... at least I have an order in now. Beats what I've accomplished so far on the Play store all to hell.
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What about activating on Verizon?
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As far as I'm aware, Verizon comes under the same category. You should only be able to activate on Verizon if you buy the phone from Google Play or from Verizon.
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As far as I'm aware, Verizon comes under the same category. You should only be able to activate on Verizon if you buy the phone from Google Play or from Verizon.
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That is what I have read. I am hoping by the 12/2 when I get my phone from Motorola I will have more options regarding Verizon.
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What about activating on Verizon?
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I bought my device from T-Mobile, removed the T-Mobile sim it came with, put my Verizon sim card in, and it worked no problem. This happened with my phone on ATT as well. The guy next to me did the SAME EXACT THING on Sprint.
I am not BSing you guys in the least. I have no problem helping out in anyway I can. I'll even give you the number and the guy at the T Mobile store who watched us do it lol.
seh6183 said:
Unless something has changed with CDMA technology, the Verizon phones shouldn't be able to use data while on an active call. I know they are working to get that working with some new LTE standard but I haven't heard anything about it being here yet.
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This is incorrect, it has been working for 3 years now. Data while on a phone call has been working since LTE came out. It worked on my Note 2, Note 3, and currently works on my Galaxy S5. Also works on my families HTC M7 and M8.
However, it no longer works on the Droid Turbo, and now I believe the N6.
But the original assumption was incorrect, data + voice has been working for years. They did something now that it is not working on new devices coming out.

What carriers will this be compatible with?

I cannot find any carrier info on either this phone or the OnePlus One. Also, is this going to be some insider invite only thing?
Thanks.
I'm almost sure that the OP2 will work on all carriers like the one
and as for the "invite only thing" - yes, you will be able to buy it only with an invite (source)
I think they're unlocked for any carrier. Until last week I saw you could buy the oneplus one without an invite only on tuesdays. And now it says no invite needed, but that's just because the 2 is going out soon. I dont know think it will be the same for the 2 at least for a few months..
Like the OPO and Nexuses, the 1+2 will work on any carrier. If anything it will have even more support for worldwide LTE.
I'd be willing to bet it won't be in CDMA carriers.

			
				
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I'd be willing to bet it won't be in CDMA carriers.
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Was the OPOne able to be on Verizon or Sprint?
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Was the OPOne able to be on Verizon or Sprint?
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No. The SD 801 is compatible with CDMA though, so I don't know why it never was, at least for Sprint. Verizon will never allow any dev friendly phones.
Don't think you will be able to have this on VZW or Sprint, they don't like to have phones that they themselves are not selling you. You'd have to get the ESN added, and they don't do that.
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I cannot find any carrier info on either this phone or the OnePlus One. Also, is this going to be some insider invite only thing?
Thanks.
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Maybe OnePlus 2 will be unlocked as OnePlus One.
The OP2 will be unlocked as it is not sold with a particular carrier. Don't expect CDMA though, that requires a different chipset (and a small company like OnePlus are going to make a few variations as possible).
Hopefully it will have the 800MHz band that the OP1 so severely lacked - it is one of the more common and the only widespread LTE band in the UK
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No. The SD 801 is compatible with CDMA though, so I don't know why it never was, at least for Sprint. Verizon will never allow any dev friendly phones.
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Not true. The Nexus 5X works great on Verizon. I think the 6P might also. I do not have that phone.
I'm looking to get the 1+2 I live n the US I have At&t does it fully support the At&t band's ?
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1+5 on sprint?

Is anyone going to try and see how the new phone works on sprint? I'm thinking about it.
I saw it has all the bands compatible. Curious if anyone is going to try this.
i have sprint, and want it... waiting for the 128gb to be available again...
edit: chatted with oneplus about sprint compatibility, got this answer : As for that concern, we still don't have official information though you may just wait for further updates from OnePlus or you can refer to our Official website.
idk about 600 for a phone that might work, stuck with about a year left on a 2 year contract...
still waiting to get the sprint chat to show on the site lol.
k4m4kz1 said:
i have sprint, and want it... waiting for the 128gb to be available again...
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So your going to give it a shot also?
realbananA said:
So your going to give it a shot also?
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see my edit above lol
My concern would be that by all bands, they are talking about GSM. Verizon and Sprint use CDMA. I would hold off if I was on either of those carriers.
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I saw it has all the bands compatible. Curious if anyone is going to try this.
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This isn't quite correct. Verizon uses primarily Band 0 CDMA which the OnePlus 5 (And 3/3T) have included. They all lack Band 1 CDMA which is what Sprint primarily uses and Verizon uses in some major markets. Sprint also uses Band 10 CDMA. For Verizon, you can simply pop the SIM in and get service, but Sprint activation is always tied to the device and not the SIM. Sprint only allows approved devices on their network which is the biggest obstacle.
So your service would not be optimal for 1X/3G even if it were activated on Sprint. You'd most likely get no signal at all. The device does support all the LTE Bands, but while there's CDMA Support the OP5 doesn't have any of the CDMA Bands that Sprint utilizes. If you were ever able to get the device manually added in the system or Sprint approved the device on the network, then it would be essentially an LTE-Only device. Note that this might be handy or interesting in a Dual SIM set-up but probably not very optimal for an ordinary Sprint user.
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My concern would be that by all bands, they are talking about GSM. Verizon and Sprint use CDMA. I would hold off if I was on either of those carriers.
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It does work on Verizon as did the 3/3T. Verizon uses Band 0 in most of the country, but they do use Band 1 in some major cities, so it's not optimal. The OP3/3T/5 supports Band 2/4 but not Band 13 which is the primary LTE Band for Verizon. People have gotten 1X/3G/LTE working on Verizon, but it's not optimal due to the band support. There also may have been issues switching between CDMA and LTE but haven't checked recently for updates. If going for Dual SIM then it may work well for some people's needs.
According to this site the phone is fully compatible with Sprint then Verizon, I saw some post where people put Verizon sims and they're not able to get LTE but according to this site it should with Sprint.
Now like the comment above, Sprint will have to approve the phone in their system since they have to activate the phone, yeah it sucks but it's how evil Sprint works, Sometimes they have to add the IMEI number of the phone to put it in their system to activate.
Try and see what they said. When Google released phones that were compatible with Sprint, they did activate the phone you bought through google so this can be the same
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According to this site the phone is fully compatible with Sprint then Verizon, I saw some post where people put Verizon sims and they're not able to get LTE but according to this site it should with Sprint.
Now like the comment above, Sprint will have to approve the phone in their system since they have to activate the phone, yeah it sucks but it's how evil Sprint works, Sometimes they have to add the IMEI number of the phone to put it in their system to activate.
Try and see what they said. When Google released phones that were compatible with Sprint, they did activate the phone you bought through google so this can be the same
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It has zero support for CDMA (1X/3G) on Sprint since Sprint uses Band 1 and Band 10 CDMA. It would be unlikely that Sprint would whitelist the OP5 or manually add them to the database, especially considering they never added the ZTE Axon 7 which had full support for Sprint. Would certainly be pretty awesome if they did so and would benefit anyone intending to use the OP5 as an LTE-Only device.
I got the OP5 today and poped my sim in and got LTE and the carrier ID on the sim carrier information. But i have to wait and see if i can get them to add the device into the system. Which i will be on the phone with them all day I'm sure. But I'm going to give it a shot at the least. So far the phone seems awesome.
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I got the OP5 today and poped my sim in and got LTE and the carrier ID on the sim carrier information. But i have to wait and see if i can get them to add the device into the system. Which i will be on the phone with them all day I'm sure. But I'm going to give it a shot at the least. So far the phone seems awesome.
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We're rooting for ya! Get it... ROOTing...
gmac24 said:
I got the OP5 today and poped my sim in and got LTE and the carrier ID on the sim carrier information. But i have to wait and see if i can get them to add the device into the system. Which i will be on the phone with them all day I'm sure. But I'm going to give it a shot at the least. So far the phone seems awesome.
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Any luck in getting it activated?
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Any luck in getting it activated?
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So far no. But today brings a new day. lol not giving up just yet. The guys I have talked to last night with Sprint tech support, told me to go into the store and get a new sim and that should fix my problem. They are saying that because I'm coming from a IPhone a new sim card is required. I will update tonight when I get done.
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So far no. But today brings a new day. lol not giving up just yet. The guys I have talked to last night with Sprint tech support, told me to go into the store and get a new sim and that should fix my problem. They are saying that because I'm coming from a IPhone a new sim card is required. I will update tonight when I get done.
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Pls do I need a new phone
gmac24 said:
So far no. But today brings a new day. lol not giving up just yet. The guys I have talked to last night with Sprint tech support, told me to go into the store and get a new sim and that should fix my problem. They are saying that because I'm coming from a IPhone a new sim card is required. I will update tonight when I get done.
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Any luck with new sprint sim card? I was not able to activate OnePlus 5 on Sprint Service. Here is comments from Sprint customer care:-
Laine P. : I totally understand how much you wanted to activate your phone. However, to activate it here in our network, I would suggest to contact back oneplus company to let the device be activated so that it will be loaded here in our system.
When I contact OnePlus they said "We are not supporting Sprint and Verizon"
I will be watching this very closely.
Harjinder.Sidhu said:
Any luck with new sprint sim card? I was not able to activate OnePlus 5 on Sprint Service. Here is comments from Sprint customer care:-
Laine P. : I totally understand how much you wanted to activate your phone. However, to activate it here in our network, I would suggest to contact back oneplus company to let the device be activated so that it will be loaded here in our system.
When I contact OnePlus they said "We are not supporting Sprint and Verizon"
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Well I will have my final answer today. I go back into the store and get my sim card and pop it in and see what happens if this doesn't work. Bye OP5 :crying:
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Well I will have my final answer today. I go back into the store and get my sim card and pop it in and see what happens if this doesn't work. Bye OP5 :crying:
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I'm guessing it didn't work?
realbananA said:
I'm guessing it didn't work?
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No it didn't. :crying: I spent several days and driving to different stores and getting different stories from sprint tech support, but I expected that.
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No it didn't. :crying: I spent several days and driving to different stores and getting different stories from sprint tech support, but I expected that.
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Disappointing to hear. Thanks for giving it a try and letting us know and sharing the info

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