What phone will you be getting instead of Pixel 4 - Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers

After seeing those terrible specs no finger print reader and 2800 mah battery, it's time to leave Pixel
What phone will you be getting instead?

Pixel 4, oh so orange.

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Pixel 4, oh so orange.
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Pixel 4, euro edition
To me it's just, Pixel 4 or Pixel 5/6. I don't have any other replacement for my Pixel 2.
Though I'm starting to consider moving into a custom rom. I'm a bit tired of Google adding so many services to Android. I don't want that much AI in my life. I love 50% of the features they have (like At Glance, Google Feed), but I don't use the other 50%.
In every Android version if they saved like 5% battery life, they added new services that consume 6% of it. So they never truly improved in that area. But now they will have to, because they need to maintain Pixel 4 working fine for at least 3 years.

IPhone 11 pro.. After 8 years of Android...

The Pixel 4 is awesome. My battery last all day. The Radar is pretty sick ! I feel like many of the reviews are extremely bias. Squeeze works extremely well. All around its a dope phone. I feel like Google did extremely well and the poor reviews are mostly nonsense. To speak to the small battery it doesn't really matter. I feel like Google is trying to actually solve battery problems as opportunity to grow and not just slapping big battery's in a phone. It's also half smart to release Solo on a device to the XDA community. Let's be real here most of the software innovations in Android happened right here with Cyanogen XDA and a hand full of Devs that the blathering reviewers look at as features that did not exist let alone main stream before XDA before Android. Face unlock works in the dark, in the ****ing dark.

To late already got a pixel 4 and love it.

s7icky.com said:
To late already got a pixel 4 and love it.
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Same, Pixel 4 Oh So Orange

I'm waiting till Black Friday to see about giving my wife my Pixel 3a XL and getting a new phone. It will likely be a Pixel 4 XL (if the sales are just stupid crazy) or a Pixel 3 XL. If neither of those are compelling enough, she'll likely just get a Pixel 3a and I'll keep the 3a XL.
So I'll definitely be getting another Pixel phone, it's just depends on which one offers the best deal.

I have a PIxel 4 and it is GREAT. Is there any purpose to this thread?

i got the pixel 4 for free but if it cant fix the battery life for me im going to be using my pixel 3xl for sure and give this to a family member or something. i usually always have the XL line but my 2xl is still running good and the battery is still better than the 4.

I got an 11 Pro instead of the Pixel. After a week of random problems I had enough so it's between 4 and 4XL for me. None of the reviews mention how the Pro's wide angle is a gimmick except maybe for video.

hello,
i have pixel 4 from 5 days, prev pixel 2, my wife has pixel 3.
Unfortunately, battery it's worse than pixel3, give me aprox 3,5 SOT, Total 12h live, motion radar off, 90hz off, dark theme on....

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Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel 3 XL, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel 3 XL is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Well it is a Google Pixel so of course there is gonna be some love ?
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I've owned the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 6P, both of which were great devices. What's so special about the 3XL? There's nothing in it that isn't found in phones that are way cheaper. For those of you shouting about vanilla android, there is no vanilla android any more. Even Google now includes features that aren't found in any other version of android. But the thing that annoys me the most about pixel phones is Google's price policy. Why oh why are these phones 30% more expensive in Europe?
i just watched unbox therapy's video of the pixel 3 xl. to be honest i like it. yes the notch is bigger than others but it doesnt seem to bother me. maybe i'm too used to it from my iphone x. i wish the area on the sides of the notch would hold more information, but that is where xda comes in. i'm sure some developers can put more info there with their roms. the camera looks amazing. the screen quality finally looks up to par with samsung even though it's still an LG screen. you can tell they have matured their oled screens fast. the build quality looks really good. that soft gorilla glass on the back that doesnt attract finger prints looks like a nice touch. i'm going to objectively give this device a try instead of blindly following the masses of haters. but based of the videos i've watched already i think this device will end up being a great one.
Why do people keep asking why we pay more for phones in Europe? In Europe we pay VAT which adds about 20% to the cost of just about everything. It may not account for all the price difference but it accounts for the majority of it.
Overall Phones are good with price range. Nothing to hate about it. Phone has lot more than other phones with that price range. I had good experience with Pixel 2 XL. Phones are worthy to buy.
People hate about notch trend but I say its only way to cover screen on front. About some trends you will used to it. its not making problem in functionality.
I have Pixel 2 XL why I should by Pixel 3 XL ?
Plus about this phones is Snapdragon 845 , Titan M security module and Wireless Charging in Hardware. + ( Notch some people not like it )
about notch google will provide option to disable notch like one plus 6.
Pixel Cameras are always awesome then others with that price.
I believe Pixel users are 95% genuine users who uses almost every feature that company provide.
Not like iPhone users wasting lots of parent's money to show off just a logo.
Apple call their eco system it is like handcuffs to buy their won stuff and 30% features not work if you don't have other apple products.
[ Pixels = You will get maximum benefit of Artificial Intelligence. This is what I mean. ]
Got my 3 XL yesterday. I'm coming from a 2 XL so I expected a slight upgrade, but I'm finding a lot of things I love that I didn't expect.
- Tap to wake is WAY faster than on the 2. Having both side by side, the 3 wakes up a full second before the 2.
- The screen on the 3 looks sooo good. Crisper even. I never had any complaints about my 2 XL's screen, but I can tell the 3 XL is definitely better
- Speakers are noticeably better. Not sure about how loud they get, but the sound is richer on the 3 than the 2. The 2 is tinnier.
- Wide Angle Selfie camera is pretty cool
- Low light photos are noticeably better. This I didn't expect to notice as much, but a side by side comparison of the same photo with the two phones shows a noticeable improvement. The 2's photo looks duller than the 3. They might look the same after some post processing, but the 3's photo looks great without any touchups.
- Not phone related, but the Google Fabric case covers more of the bottom of the phone than the 2's did.
The only thing I have NOT liked is that with the notch, the number of notification icons in the status bar has been reduced to three, meaning 2 and a dot if you have more. If I reduce the display size to the lowest one, I can get three and a dot. The 2 XL has 4 and a dot. Hopefully we can figure out a way to turn off the clock. I never use it and I'd gladly give it up in exchange for more icons.
After I got the phone I realize it is so much better than expected. And the software polish and hard ware polish is next level
Very nice but some complaints
Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.
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Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.
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My 2017 CRV also had trouble the first time I tried to use Android Auto. No map showed up, it gave me an ETA and the first turn arrow, but the only thing that updated was the ETA which was WAY off. When I got to my destination, I restarted the phone and the car, and on my way home, it worked as it normally does.
Happy out here. Got my 3xl 128gb on Verizon pre paid yesterday. Using on SIM in Ireland. Love pretty much everything about the phone. Kinda wish it had face unlocking but otherwise very happy. Everything just works and no bloat.
OK, so this may be biased, but I'm 100% in love with this phone. This is my first pixel phone, and I'm coming from a mid/budget phone, so that may make all the difference, but from the looks, the feels, the screen, the new gestures, the smoothness, the speakers, the call quality, the battery life, to whatever else this phone is, and can do, I love it. I've never had such a great experience from day one on any other phone, and I've been on Android since I got a Nexus One on day one. To me this phone is perfect. There is not one thing I can think of to complain about (OK I do have one. Have the phone either a bit thicker, or find another way to make the camera bump on the back flush).
Coming from a Oneplus 3T here. I am going through an RMA right now for the speaker issue, just to put that out there. With that aside, I love the phone otherwise. My only concern going in was the battery to be honest. The battery was larger than my 3T but still smaller than last year. It is a great phone. A great improvement over my 3T, which was still one of the best phones I've had.
Love the phone. Totally seamless Google experience
Overall impression so far.
Got the phone on Friday, October 19, 2018.
1. Good build quality (better than 2 XL); feels rigid & premium in hand. The frosted glass back is really smooth & good to touch. Better that my ex's skin.
2. Battery life is pretty good too. Same or better than 2 XL. First cycle (WiFi only): from 96%; SOT: 5 hr 10 min in 1 day 10 hrs with 16% to go. It will ofc get better with more cycles & as it learns more. Also, the battery is smaller than that of 2 XL & powers a bigger & better screen & louder speakers.
3. Cameras. Need not say anything.
4. Screen: it is a Samsung panel on the 3 XL, performs like one. Really good. No black clipping for me except maybe on mobile data when speeds are low. That is more like a buffering and pixel issue but no black clipping. Could happen on any phone.
5. I really like the included USB-C Pixel buds; took me 10 minutes to get the right fit & learn to use them (fit them); follow the animations in the first time setup. They are really good. Good bass too.
6. Charging time using charger included in box: from 16% to 100%: around 1 hour 40 minutes. WiFi on. AOD on.
7. Notch: got used to it already & not noticeable anymore. I don't play games on the phone at all.
8. The speakers: a minor issue of imbalanced audio(bottom grill is louder) but no buzzing for me & no muffled sound either. Fixable via software update.
9. RAM management: it is bad rn; fixable by software update as the cause has already looks to be the kernel `lowmemoryKiller` as per some sources when you google.
I see 0 hardware based issues with the phone (apart from notch which is bad design & not an issue for me at least). Other issues will be addressed via an update. I see better performance in the future already. Even the pixel 2 xl got better with updates (at least for me).
Buying the Pixel stand soon.
TL;DR: Love it. Keeping it.
Like the phone...my only issues are with the display brightness and sometimes ram management. My conspiracy is that google dimmed the screen in order to avoid a crappy battery. 100% on this is like 65% on my iphone. Other than that, I love the speakers! Not sure if it's worth the $900
Love it but highly intrigued by the 6T coming next week
I remember when in the Nexus days, everyone said that all vanilla Android needed was a great camera and it'd be perfect. Google listened and produced pixel line with best camera, 3 generations in a row now. Now all anyone can do is nitpick the hardware. I think Google has achieved what most enthusiasts were after.
overall i like it, price should drop $300+ - Pixel 3 XL crosshatch 128 black G013C
What: Google Pixel 3 XL crosshatch 128 black G013C
good/great:
camera
camera software
free storage of pictures and video
nice to have included earbuds
screen is decent and not overwarm like apple's off white warm screen tones. proper whitebalance, maybe slightly blue, but a very good screen.
fast - fast booting, fast behavior
not so good / annoying:
4 gb ram @ $1000 price point?
128 vs 256/512 ssd at $1000 price point?
no sd card slot - give it a rest google.
included earbuds done noise cancel. why in the world would they do that?
i cant see where 300-400 dollars went for a phone that costs $1000 + $129 in preferred care
insultingly overpriced wireless earbuds
insultingly overpriced wireless dock
insultingly overpriced accessories in general by screwgle.
drm on Qi / fake Qi charging - 10 watts in the drm mode isnt even enough let alone be enough in the drm-allowed mode. 5W is just pathetic.
included wired charger isnt as good as previous pixel chargers. should include the big dual port charger from the pixel c
ifixit score is terrible (4 of 10). right to repair legislation is going to be needed - an industry wide problem - sad to see in a $1000 phone
audio jack missing - why do this?
faceunlock - i do have an iphone X from work (they gave it for free) - i do enjoy that feature.
bad:
- notch is just stupid. its stupid on the X, XS and on 3XL. stop the god damned notches. i just shut the notch off in developer options so its just a waste of pixels but its just poor design.
- pie having that idiotic gesture system and its forced (no developer or hidden option to go back). just copy the iphone's gesture system and be done with this moronic one
overall im happy because $1000 for me isnt breaking the bank but there are plenty of people where $1000 is a bit on the high side and this phone just doesnt deliver that value. its a nice phone and im happy with it - best android has to offer and camera is the most important feature - but google is a jerk, sundar pichai is a greedy jerk and a bad CEO. when i think of sundar pichai i think of a jerk who is also a spineless milquetoast. when i think of Steve Jobs i think of a jerk who was obsessed with aesthetics, beauty, ease of use, wanting to be best of breed, form and function, etc. google needs a better CEO. sundar pichai is a greedy jerk who needs to work at this harder than he does or let someone good take his place
mikeofny said:
Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.
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Hey Im coming from the OG pixel xl as well. I currently have the 6t but don't actually find it much of an upgrade from my pixel. Ive got 15 days to return it so Im looking to buy the 3xl instead. Would you say that the upgrade from the OG xl to the 3xl is worth it?? Thanks!

Who's upgrading to Pixel 3 or 3XL?

Hey guys,
I was wondering if upgrading worth it. Also my girlfriend wants to buy a pixel and we were waiting on the 3 to see the changes, however for what I've seen I don't think worth the upgrade or buying the pixel 3, pixel 2 still performs perfectly.
My question is, all those feature pixel 3 will have since it's software wise we will have it also in our pixel 2 right ? That smart call, top shot and night mode ?
Also that notch... Ewks...
Anyone have any opinion why I should upgrade to pixel 3 and give this 2xl to my girlfriend or should I just keep it and buy her a pixel 2 instead and keep the money ?
Cheers
I assume the features are all coming to 2/2XL as well. And the notch is a huge deal breaker for me...
I'll skip all notch phones and wait for notch free flagship... maybe in 3 years??? :"P
Depends on disposable income. You got the bucks get the 3. Give your gal the 2 she'll love it.
That's what I'm doing with the Mrs. If you're strapped for cash keep yours and get her a Pixel 2. Can't go wrong either way.
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jerryhou85 said:
I assume the features are all coming to 2/2XL as well. And the notch is a huge deal breaker for me...
I'll skip all notch phones and wait for notch free flagship... maybe in 3 years??? :"P
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Nope.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-minor-features/
read down to this:
Pixel Visual Core Changes
Next, a Product Manager confirmed to us that the Pixel Visual Core has indeed been updated. Until the device’s kernel source code is released, we won’t know exactly what new functions have been added to the HAL. However, we’re told that the Pixel Visual Core is now actually used by the Google Camera app for Google Lens suggestions, HDR+, Top Shot, Motion Auto Focus, and Photobooth. That’s most likely why the older Pixels will get support for Night Sight and Playground but won’t get support for Top Shot, Motion Auto Focus, or Photobooth – they don’t have the newer Pixel Visual Core.
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Nope.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-3-google-pixel-3-xl-minor-features/
read down to this:
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Ah... I hate all these manufacturers who release minor features and call it an upgrade...?
Anyone know if the pixel 3 USB port is still incapable of video out?
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No Pixel 3 XL minor spec's for me. Be staying with the Pixel 2 XL which has plenty of updates left in it!
I grabbed the 3. It's essentially a more ergonomic Pixel 2 XL with a better screen, better front camera(s), wireless charging, IP68, better speakers, and another year of support.
OG Pixel to Pixel 2 XL was worth it to me but the Pixel 2 XL to Pixel 3 XL not so much
Staying with 2 XL
I'm really tempted to get the 3XL because it's BOGO at verizion but I'm resisting the temptation . I like the better screen and sound but the 2XL is still a good phone and don't really see a big jump in performance. Plus "some" of the new features will come to the 2XL so I think I'll hold off until next year when it's more of a upgrade.
I'm not buying another pixel if they stick to such a huge notch. "Designed by Google" - yeah, no ****. It'll be exact same phone in terms of looks as I'll hide that notch anyway. So a little better screen, speakers, camera ... Wireless charging I don't use anyway, never use it for deep water diving anyway ... Useless.
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I'm not buying another pixel if they stick to such a huge notch. "Designed by Google" - yeah, no ****. It'll be exact same phone in terms of looks as I'll hide that notch anyway. So a little better screen, speakers, camera ... Wireless charging I don't use anyway, never use it for deep water diving anyway ... Useless.
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Useless to you. It's all subjective. Try out the OnePlus 6T.
I ordered the 3 XL cuz I just at like changing phones every year. But I also have a 2 xl and snapped out of zombie mode and cancelled my order. The 2 camera is still amazing. This phone is fast as hell. I like root even if it's not too needed these days. It just didn't seem like an upgrade worth $1000 for.
Oh yeah....and I HATE gesture navigation.
I don't really see the 'upgrades' with the Pixel 3. All the features announced are pretty much coming the the Pixel 2 and the notch is a real disadvantage, so why bother?
Sticking with my Pixel 2XL for couple of years, still functions flawlessly. Let's see what the Pixel 4 holds...
What "should" have been the Pixel 3xl... will be the Oneplus 6T!
I will not upgrade, I don't see the updates as worth the money. And in general I feel that the pixel phones are overpriced compared to the competition...
I ordered the 3 xl. Since I've been paying more than needed on my payments for my 2 xl, the 3 xl with the stand will be pretty much the same payment. Got it for the better cameras as I use mine a lot, also the wireless charging, and the better screen. I checked one out in a Verizon store, and the notch does NOT look as bad in person either. Though, if any devs make it so you can partially hide it instead of fully, I'll be all over that.
Probably will upgrade but truth is the pixel 3 is a very weak effort by Google. I should probably just call it a lazy attempt. I know some tech YouTubers have been saying that the effort is in the software but at least apple actually did a proper upgrade to their internals and software, not a half baked one .
I'll use it for a week and see how I feel about it.
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...at least apple actually did a proper upgrade to their internals and software, not a half baked one.
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I see the Pixel 3 an "s" year for the Pixel but better than what Apple's done. Things the Pixel 3 has that the Pixel 2 doesn't have or won't get:
Better processor, screen, speakers, wireless charging, wide angle lens for the front, photobooth, top shot, super res zoom, motion auto focus, lens suggestions for Google Lens, and Titan M security chip.
That's a bigger difference than the iPhone X and the iPhone XS.
That being said, I don't think any phone is worth getting for a yearly update. Getting the latest and greatest on a yearly basis just makes everything incremental and less significant of an upgrade. And going from one 2018 to another 2018 is just a lateral move which is even a bigger waste.
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Have you seen the XS? It's amazing. Feels better, looks better, runs better. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. Battery life optimized to where you will drool. I'm not going there but..
Edit.. it's getting close. I'm not rooting these days there are no roms to speak of the. Wear OS is sketchy vs I watch or whatever they call it. Talk me down. I shouldn't have gone into the store and compared. The notch in the iPhone actually looks good. WTF? That being said I'll probably get the pixel 3 on BF. Probably..

Oneplus 6t from pixel 2 xl

Hi I'm looking to change my pixel 2 xl cause of performance issues alot of lag and delay
I was thinking of Mate Pro 20 but I changed my mind after reading honest review on XDA-Developers
Is it better choice to get one plus 6t instead
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I got a 2xl and waiting for my 6t, which will be delivered tomorrow. Considered the pixel 3 but it's just a rerocked 2
I'm coming from a pixel 2xl. I was looking for something new because i started to feel apps were closing out too fast and reloading too often.
I started adding more apps. Mostly security camera and home automation apps. I wanted to see if having more RAM would help. I didn't even have any interest in the pixel 3 since they didn't upgrade the RAM
So far I've been pleased. Apps stay open longer but it seems it takes awhile for the phone to know which apps you use the most.
Battery life has been noticeably better but not by much
In screen fingerprint scanner isn't as fast as the pixel but the face unlock on the op6t is blazing.
I miss AOD and I'm surprised how often i use the squeeze for Google Assistant.
OnePlus gestures blows away both of Android navigation options. I'm happy to have the extra screen space.
Surprised how well the OnePlus screen compares to the pixel. There are more color options to adjust for your liking and the OnePlus seems to get a tad brighter. The pixel looks sharper on higher res content but barely and only if you stare.
OnePlus camera is okay. I'm not a huge picture person so the OnePlus is passable for me.
Pixel feels lighter and is easier to hold. Less fingerprints because of the material on the back of the pixel.
Right now I've factory reset the pixel to see if i can recover the performance. I bet it will be smooth again.
Hope this helps
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I have Pixel 2 as well and will be getting OP 6T in couple of days... 6T seems to be a upgrade almost all cases except Camera.. well we have Gcam port for that
Coming from the pixel 2xl. The 3xls notch is disgusting compared with the price of the 3xl brining not a whole lot of new things make the 3xl a definite pass. It's unfortunate that this was the fastest phone I've ever had but in a year I've reset it 4 times due to extreme lagging and slowdown recently. Battery life dropped by almost half as well. The only redeeming quality is the camera but I am willing to give that up for the time being.
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Coming from the pixel 2xl. The 3xls notch is disgusting compared with the price of the 3xl brining not a whole lot of new things make the 3xl a definite pass. It's unfortunate that this was the fastest phone I've ever had but in a year I've reset it 4 times due to extreme lagging and slowdown recently. Battery life dropped by almost half as well. The only redeeming quality is the camera but I am willing to give that up for the time being.
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I am waiting for someone to try the GCam port on 6T... If that turns out good, there is no reason to buy 3 XL
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I am waiting for someone to try the GCam port on 6T... If that turns out good, there is no reason to buy 3 XL
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I think there is one already and I wonder if somebody can add night sight from pixel 3 to 6T? That would be incredible!
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I think there is one already and I wonder if somebody can add night sight from pixel 3 to 6T? That would be incredible!
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as far as I know there is a port for oneplus 6,not sure if it works for 6t?
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as far as I know there is a port for oneplus 6,not sure if it works for 6t?
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check the apps section i swore i saw one for the 6t here
oneandroidnut said:
check the apps section i swore i saw one for the 6t here
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Yes. It's just a repost of the one from the 6 subforum.
Functionality is the same on the 6. Same things work, and same things don't work.
We can only use the 6.1 mods. Older 5.x versions won't connect to the camera on our phones.

Keep your Pixel 2 XL and don't upgrade to the Pixel 3 XL

I upgraded my pixel 2 xl to a pixel 3 xl a few months back, hoping that the best camera on the market will get even better, but it seems that the pixel 3 doesn't bring any major improvements. Everything is almost identical, at least in daylight:
https://youtu.be/2yQmhsPBEmE
With the P3's lackluster 4GB of RAM, I definitely won't be upgrading to it. I'll keep my Pixel 2 XL for now and see what the OnePlus 7 has to offer.
Every time Google has a P3XL deal, I consider buying one. And each time, I talk myself into waiting for P4/XL. The P3XL simply isn't enough of an upgrade to justify getting rid of my P2XL.
going to be doing the same, staying with 2XL. waiting for 4XL.
sublimaze said:
Every time Google has a P3XL deal, I consider buying one. And each time, I talk myself into waiting for P4/XL. The P3XL simply isn't enough of an upgrade to justify getting rid of my P2XL.
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Not to mention...that Gawd awful notch! ?
Badger50 said:
Not to mention...that Gawd awful notch!
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Yeah that huge notch is the main turnoff.
I need to keep seeing these posts, to avoid my itchy trigger finger. My wife has to upgrade her S8+ because she's terrible with her phones. She upgrades every year. I always use it as an excuse to upgrade too....don't wanna be left out, ya know??
Regardless. My Pixel 2xl is a wonderful phone. Absolutely no reason to move on. I always use Swappa. I haven't used an " upgrade" in 4 years.... Verizon can suck it.
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I need to keep seeing these posts, to avoid my itchy trigger finger. My wife has to upgrade her S8+ because she's terrible with her phones. She upgrades every year. I always use it as an excuse to upgrade too....don't wanna be left out, ya know??
Regardless. My Pixel 2xl is a wonderful phone. Absolutely no reason to move on. I always use Swappa. I haven't used an " upgrade" in 4 years.... Verizon can suck it.
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Your best value is always last year's top model.
sublimaze said:
Every time Google has a P3XL deal, I consider buying one. And each time, I talk myself into waiting for P4/XL. The P3XL simply isn't enough of an upgrade to justify getting rid of my P2XL.
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I won't consider another Pixel phone until they bump up the Ram to at least 6GB. The notch on the P3XL doesn't bother me as much as its horrible memory management.
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I need dual speakers...that works on Verizon. That's why I snagged the Pixel 2XL..... Had the Moto X Pure prior which had stereo too. It's just a feature I really really enjoy in a phone. I'd like to play with a Razer 2....I know that has stereo speakers...
In my opinion the Nexus era was way better. The upgrades between generations were mostly worth the price. Even if not all of the new features were great, Nexus Devices were way more affordable. You could switch to a newer released model without paying almost 1K every time. Seems to me the Pixel Devices just can't keep up with that. I mean yeah, Camera for example got way better but I'm not seeing to much more that got noticeably better.
Anyways, the Pixel 2 is still a good phone I love to use every day. I will keep it and see what the Pixel 4 has in store. But Google should come up with something better than last year. Besides, imho it's enough to switch phones every 2 years (or more) if not something groundbreaking gets announced.
cornel.atomei said:
I upgraded my pixel 2 xl to a pixel 3 xl a few months back, hoping that the best camera on the market will get even better, but it seems that the pixel 3 doesn't bring any major improvements. Everything is almost identical, at least in daylight:
https://youtu.be/2yQmhsPBEmE
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Problem is that phones have become a commodity meanwhile, so upgrades oftenly don't make sense anymore. It's like in the PC world, where most notebooks are used until they wear out.
When I bought the original Samsung Galaxy Tab, it seemed to be too slow. With the Asus TF700, it was better, but still too slow and with barely acceptable battery runtime. The Sony Xperia Z2 tablet fixed both, this was the first device which was "good enough" with its Snapdragon 801. Still using it to this day.
The same goes for phones - upgrading from an SGS2 to an SGS4 was like day and night: Such a fast SoC (albeit still a bit too slow), such a gorgeous screen and the incredible speed of LTE!
The Pixel 2 XL also immediately got me: Such a well put together software, superb camera and finally a really good battery runtime. But when I compared rendering a web site on my old LG G5 and the new Pixel 2 XL, there was barely a difference. The reason why the Pixel performs so much better is in the software, not the hardware.
So now I have a phone with a good screen that is fast enough, a camera which is good enough even in low light and a battery runtime which never causes me trouble.
So why the hell should I upgrade now? I could be wrong and the Pixel 4 could bring something radically new or better which makes me upgrade immediately, but I really doubt it. I expect it to be a minor upgrade to the Pixel 3, like the 3 was to the 2.
Hence I plan to simply use my Pixel 2 XL until it breaks down. Why waste money for an upgrade I hardly notice?
sublimaze said:
Your best value is always last year's top model.
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This is what I usually do. I can't pay $1k for a phone regardless of how much I use it. I'd rather buy last years flagship phone at about 50-60% of that cost. So, I'll wait another year with my 2XL and see what happens.
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Anyways, the Pixel 2 is still a good phone I love to use every day. I will keep it and see what the Pixel 4 has in store. But Google should come up with something better than last year. Besides, imho it's enough to switch phones every 2 years (or more) if not something groundbreaking gets announced.
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Agreed. Since having my P2XL, this is the first year I haven't had a burning desire to upgrade to the "latest & greatest". I will wait and see what P4/XL offers. I prefer a larger display and battery, but if P4XL still has a hideous notch then I'll get a regular P4 or just keep my P2XL until it dies.
As a Note 9 user, I still enjoy using my Pixel 2 XL a lot and I swap my Note 9 with it from time to time, as my daily driver. That phone holds up very well, it's still super fast, the camera is still premium by today's standards, It does less things than my Note 9, and it doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it's rock-solid and reliable, and in the end of the day that's what really matters.
If I was to get a new Pixel today, I'd absolutely pick the Pixel 2 XL over the Pixel 3 XL. The features/performance/price ratio is just way better.
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I upgraded my pixel 2 xl to a pixel 3 xl a few months back, hoping that the best camera on the market will get even better, but it seems that the pixel 3 doesn't bring any major improvements. Everything is almost identical, at least in daylight:
https://youtu.be/2yQmhsPBEmE
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I've been testing pixel 2 xl Vs Xiaomi Mi9 cameras. And guess which one I chose.
alojo said:
I've been testing pixel 2 xl Vs Xiaomi Mi9 cameras. And guess which one I chose.
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The iPhone! :laugh::silly::laugh::good:
cornel.atomei said:
I upgraded my pixel 2 xl to a pixel 3 xl a few months back, hoping that the best camera on the market will get even better, but it seems that the pixel 3 doesn't bring any major improvements. Everything is almost identical, at least in daylight:
https://youtu.be/2yQmhsPBEmE
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Yes, I looked at the specs and bought the model that was almost 2 years old, no difference, sort of like comparing the Apple X to the XS, no difference. AFAIK, the 3 loses the laser focus that the 2 had.
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Badger50 said:
Not to mention...that Gawd awful notch!
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Agreed, if I wanted an iPhone, I would get one.
Is it worth to buy the Pixel 2 XL now? I could buy the 128GB version for 399€. Updates are guaranteed until October 2020. It's next year so it might be possible it's getting Android R, doesn't it? I am using Sony Xperia Z5 since it's release. What do you think?
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Is it worth to buy the Pixel 2 XL now? I could buy the 128GB version for 399€. Updates are guaranteed until October 2020. It's next year so it might be possible it's getting Android R, doesn't it? I am using Sony Xperia Z5 since it's release. What do you think?
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I still dig my phone 2XL. I would not buy a Verizon version at any price but an unlocked Google version is still fun for sure.

Anyone upgrading to pixel 4?

Just curious what people's thoughts were
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I got one yesterday after the live event and put it in my cart then I realized I can't justify $946 for a phone that has a few better features than my GP2XL. I love my Pixel2xl and spending that much money for essentially a better camera, graphics, and processor (none of which are THAT important to me) doesn't make sense to me. So I cleared my cart and bought a new case for my GP2XL instead for $11 on Amazon. Like Pixel 3, the Pixel 4 just doesn't wow me enough to spend that kind of money. I am not a astrophotographer so that doesn't matter to me.
I will eventually but waiting for a better deal than just 100 off. I was disappointed by the value of trade ins but I'll probably hold onto my pixel 2 until the photo upload promo expires.
Things I'm looking forward to on the pixel 4.
1) snappier performance with hopefully better memory management
2) the faster Google Assistant with continued conversation like feature. I'm a heavy voice command user and cutting down on the amount of times I say the launch phrase will be welcomed.
3) wireless charging. I think it's time for me to get it back now that my family is all on wireless charging. The pads can be used for multiple devices now.
4) better display. I've gotten used to the pixel 2 display but always long for more when I look at Samsung or apple OLED displays.
5) soli seems a bit gimmicky but if it allows me to change songs in my car without having to touch it, then that will be huge for me. Easier than me having to buy a new car or a new head unit.
Things I worry about
1) that face id better be damn good. Smart Lock is starting to get wonky. My watch doesn't keep my phone unlocked at all times like it's supposed to. Keeps saying locked manually.
2) original photo upload. It's something I think won't miss until it's gone. Sharing albums with friends and not having it compressed takes the sting out of not having something like iMessage which doesn't compress photos. Now i have to figure out a different way to share the full quality pictures with them
3) battery life.... ALWAYS BATTERY LIFE!
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Just curious what people's thoughts were
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Nope I bought 2 refurbished 2xls so I'm set for the Long haul. I despise glass backs.
I was going to order last night but I'm honestly just not that impressed with the specs. Think I'll keep my XL2 for another year and just save some money.
Yup
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I couldn't bring myself to buy the Pixel 3 but I bought two pixel 4XL's yesterday. I debated hard about doing it because there really isn't anything wrong with my 2XL and it does everything I need it to do. I'm the person that upgrades every year and in the end I just couldn't go past two years without a new phone. I might kick myself later but what can you do....lol
Nope, no upgrade for me,i had it in my cart and cleared it the moment i realized it doesn't have a fingerprint scanner, I'm ready to upgrade but not to a phone without fingerprint scanner
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I too, was going to get it as I figured hell, it's a pixel 4xl and will be perfect to work with especially here in these forums. I even had it ordered for a full day, but alas, today I cancelled it as it simply is too much for not good enough specs. I do believe in two days I'm going to order the one plus 7t. (Just my thoughts)
Yep. Do I need it? Nope! Am I looking forward to trying something sorta-kinda new....you betchya! I don't buy much stuff ever, but every 2 years, I treat myself to a new device :good:
I think i also keep my pixel for another year.its still a solid phone with good bat life and an awesome cam.
I just received a complete new pixel from Google cause of warranty issues .and this after almost 2 year's haha.
This time i will stay a bit on pie because 10 ****ed my phone up somehow before.
Yes, Pixel 4 XL. Way better camera, best display on the market, onboard AI no need for data connection, live transcribe, motion sense, fastest face unlock, faster CPU, 6GB RAM and afree chrome book. Let's be honest most of these features cannot be backported to the Pixel 2, maybe some camera tweaks. The transcribe required the new AI chip and service so unlikely. And my Pixel is starting to show it's age, likes to stutter a little now and again.
Many people moaned the Pixel 2 only had 4GB RAM, so there's a reason for them to upgrade.
Can't see why upgrade honestly, I only got the phone a year ago, and it's performing pretty well.
But pixel 5 will be a day one buy that's for sure.
Damn I'm glad I'm not the only one with a p2xl, thought I was slacking on my new tech. I really just love this phone! XD
Same boat as Badger50. I ordered one with delivery of next week. If it doesn't wow me, I'll return it and probably get the OP7T. If the 7T doesn't do it for me, then P2xl lives on.
Pre-ordered it immediately when the Google Store was refreshed. I thought about doing the trade-in and even ordered the box for it but I think I'll try my luck with Swappa instead. I'm sure I'll get more than Google's $143 offer with all the cases and accessories I have.
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I'm still undecided on whether I'm going to get one or not. I'm still using my pixel 2XL, and it performs just as well as the day I bought it 2 years ago, no joke. I skipped the 3XL--no explanation necessary. I was thinking I might wait and see what the 4A looks like when that comes out, but I'll probably cave in and get the 4XL eventually. However, I'm not pre-ordering it or even thinking about actually buying it until I see that root is available for it. I pre-ordered the pixel 2XL and it royally sucked to go without root for the first few weeks.
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Can't see why upgrade honestly, I only got the phone a year ago, and it's performing pretty well.
But pixel 5 will be a day one buy that's for sure.
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Exactly what I was hoping with the P4 when the P3 sucked. What do I do when the P5 sucks next year. I'm starting to consider an iPhone.
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biggiestuff said:
1) that face id better be damn good. Smart Lock is starting to get wonky. My watch doesn't keep my phone unlocked at all times like it's supposed to. Keeps saying locked manually.
2) original photo upload. It's something I think won't miss until it's gone. Sharing albums with friends and not having it compressed takes the sting out of not having something like iMessage which doesn't compress photos. Now i have to figure out a different way to share the full quality pictures with them
3) battery life.... ALWAYS BATTERY LIFE!
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1. It's looking very fast and even though right now it's able to unlock with eyes closed (not a big deal for me) I'm sure they're working on adding an eyes open option. It was in the leaks.
2. High quality is plenty for average people but One Drive is super affordable. 100GB for $20/year isn't a lot at all.
3. Really curious how good/bad it'll be. I used to get as much as 7-8 hours SOT my first 6-8 months with my Pixel 2 XL.
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I'll wait until black Friday to see if there are any deals

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