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Hey guys
I tried to 'clone' my Galaxy S7 edge to a Galaxy S7, the on board copy tool after startup did only copy a few, I miss basic things (wallpaper settings, app logins and more)
What is the best way to copy all the data from one Android to another?
Thanks for your help
Oli
Try Smart Switch. I used it to restore everything from my s5 into my s7 edge. The only way I could get it to work right was to create the backup into my sdcard on my s5 and then put it into my s7 edge to restore with Smart Switch. You won't be able to restore 3rd party app data with it though. That means app logins will not be backed up. Everything Google and samsung related will restore just fine.
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+1 for Smart Switch but it is not a full "clone" program. You need to transfer 3rd party app data such as games, whatsapp history etc manually.
duceyaj said:
Try Smart Switch. I used it to restore everything from my s5 into my s7 edge. The only way I could get it to work right was to create the backup into my sdcard on my s5 and then put it into my s7 edge to restore with Smart Switch. You won't be able to restore 3rd party app data with it though. That means app logins will not be backed up. Everything Google and samsung related will restore just fine.
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The main question here is why would you go from S7 Edge to S7?
Probably for the smaller screen. S7 Edge seems just to big for some people.
Officially Smart Switch.
If your Rooted and SD Card, Titanium backup.
You can backup, Account, Messages, Wallpaper, Settings, Ringtones, Applications, Applications saved Data.
You name it, this can back it up, Install it on both Devices, Backup the S7 Edge to SD Card
Take out the SD Card, Put it in your S7.
Search for the Backup folder in Titanium settings, and restore.
If you are not rooted there is similar apps to titanium that i work without root method.
This will at least allow some additional data and applications to be copied over that would otherwise be ignored
To answer the most important question first : Yes, smaller screen and I dont like the edge hardware design, I constantly touch the screen..
Thanks for your ideas! But that sounds a bit unpleasant compared to what I am used from iOS.. There is no possibility to move all the data from one phone to another..? I mean, properly
The Apps are not the most important things, I would have liked to have the same App's on my screen again, same Mail accounts, settings..
oli_28 said:
To answer the most important question first : Yes, smaller screen and I dont like the edge hardware design, I constantly touch the screen..
Thanks for your ideas! But that sounds a bit unpleasant compared to what I am used from iOS.. There is no possibility to move all the data from one phone to another..? I mean, properly
The Apps are not the most important things, I would have liked to have the same App's on my screen again, same Mail accounts, settings..
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There are applications on the store that will get everything you want.
most apps take Priorty information, Contacts, messages Images etc etc
Titanium backup will do EVERYTHING you possibility want.
You only get the full features if Rooted.
If you are not, there are applications like MyBackup pro i used to use before Rooting.
I know there has been many other applications over the year that have done this.
But as others have stated, what happened with Smart Switch, Samsung App should do all this.
I can backup my entire device
(System Apps, User Apps)
Wallpapers, Ringtones, Accounts Added, Messages Rules ,Blocked numbers.
All your settings
This app does more than what you are able to do to transferring content between Iphone to iphone.
Its not that complicated neither, i can backup my entire system in 5 minutes.
Happy to help or guide you through it if you want.
Thanks Dave, would you try Smart Switch or MyBackup pro first? I'll try this that weekend in that case
I am not rooted yet, but I want to since I always had jailbroken my iOS devices.. But I decided to do one by one
oli_28 said:
Thanks Dave, would you try Smart Switch or MyBackup pro first? I'll try this that weekend in that case
I am not rooted yet, but I want to since I always had jailbroken my iOS devices.. But I decided to do one by one
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Try Smart Switch first
(This is Samsung Official Application, They Prided them-self in this release, its a all in one suit to move your content from one device to another - Specific for the job you want)
If Smart Switch Fails, Try MyBackup Pro:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackup&hl=en_GB
Pro version is paid for.
Just curious if people use Smart Switch (or similar programs/apps) to transfer all the old data/contacts/music/apps to the new phone or start fresh, re-download apps one by one, etc? When I switch to a new device, I'm usually (maybe unreasonably) fearful that some stray bit of old or unused data or file will transfer over that will affect the performance of the new device, thinking I'm making it 'dirty'. I also use it as an opportunity to purge apps I don't use enough to warrant keeping them. Over time I always collect apps I use maybe one time and I leave them there, no reason why. Time to clean house!
Coming from S7E, when I go into Best Buy to pick up the S8+ I'm sure they'll ask if I want them to OTG the data over... No thanks, I want my baby clean.
With smart switch you can chose what you want to copy. Yo
I might have to check out this smart switch. I usually back up everything with Titanium then restore on the new device. The problem is that often causes problems if you restore the data that goes with the apps (last time I did that it screwed up notifications for things like whatsapp and emails), I think it was due to going from kitkat to marshmallow on my S5 and the difference in permissions handling between them probably screwed it up when restoring data. Of course not restoring the data means I lose all my save games, old messages in whatsapp, call logs, saved wifi networks etc etc so it would be nice to restore these things without screwing up anything on the new device. I wonder if Smart Switch (never heard of it before) could do it better than trying to restore from Titanium?
I guess not, just installed Smart Switch on my S5 and it won't even run. Tap to open it, it flashes up on the screen then vanishes.
I'm going to try smart switch, loading it now on my Nexus 6.
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I used smart switch on my last couple of upgrades I usually backup to PC on the morning the new phones due to arrival.
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Well I still can't get smart switch to even load on my S5. Same thing constantly, tap the icon to load it, a smart switch screen flashes up then vanishes. No error messages and it stil shows in the recents menu, selecting it from there does the same thing, smart switch comes up, then vanishes again.
No idea why, I am using phoenix rom for my S5 which I think has bits of S7E firmware in it but that shouldnt cause an issue, the phone itself couldnt be running any better and its still a samsung android phone so smart switch should at least run, instead of vanishing without any kind of error message to give me a bluddy clue as to what i need to do to make it work.
Are there any good alternatives to smart switch? googling it just brings up the usual bunch of junk you get in these types of searches that i dont trust at all.
When I use smart switch it always gives me a rouge run away app that kills my batter and I end up factory resetting to correct it so what I started doing was sms backup and restore to restore my call logs, txt and sms messages including pictures and allowing Google to restore my apps ( no data) and go from there. Yeah I know I have to reset up my apps but I don't care at least I start from a somewhat clean slate and have everything I need . That's just my experience and opinion.
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If we're coming from a non-Samsung device, is there another tool we could use to do the same thing? As the bootloader will be locked, I can't rely on TiBackup or anything which I've always used in the past.
sanjsrik said:
If we're coming from a non-Samsung device, is there another tool we could use to do the same thing? As the bootloader will be locked, I can't rely on TiBackup or anything which I've always used in the past.
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Helium backup and mybackup.
I like to tranfer everything because i have so much.
But funny thing is tho when i first got my s7 edge the smart switch didnt work, everything didnt tranfer.
Went to the note 7. Then went to a new note 7 (recall) still didnt tranfer my apps. Back to the s7 i went fresh and it now backs up correctly. So ill try the smart switch again.
Then box up ky s7e and ship it back
sanjsrik said:
If we're coming from a non-Samsung device, is there another tool we could use to do the same thing? As the bootloader will be locked, I can't rely on TiBackup or anything which I've always used in the past.
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Smart switch works on multiple devices on Android and iOS. I'm going to give it a go first.
I always just start from scratch. Had too many problems in the past with apps misbehaving. I'd rather just devote a few hours to reloading manually than devote days to figuring out wtf is going wrong.
Starting from scratch. Had some issues with my pixel XL when I transferred my data
Nothing works 100% right when you transfer. It's just a fact. I've gone from S6 to S7, S7 to Note, Note back to S7, and other Android to Android transfers. Inevitably some app or setting screws something up. It might be minor, it might cause reboots. Not worth the risk. SmartSwitch is very slick, but it still can cause grief.
This is what I'd suggest based on past experiences.
1) Use an unencrypted SD card to copy photos, music, ringtones, and anything else media related between phones. There is no downside to this. You can save new pics to the SD card on the new phone while keeping all your old pics and it will just work. (Make sure and back stuff up. Phone or SD card, you never know when things will die.) You're coming from an S7, so you have that SD card option. If other users don't have an SD slot, copy the files to your computer and then to the new phone.
2) Make a list of all the apps that are relevant to you. There is likely a lot of baggage on your current phone you just left there. That app you downloaded once for one purpose that you never deleted. The app that is specific for the phone you're coming from and has no use on the new one. The picture editing app you downloaded but then started using something else. Bottom line, only bring along the baggage that you use. Adding back unnecessary stuff can just slow down a phone.
3) Set up your shiny new S8. Get it on your network. Get your Google account signed in. Go through ALL the system preferences. Turn off garbage settings you won't ever use (Edge sports for instance...). Set the timeout and security settings you will use.
4) Look over the apps that are on the phone already. Disable the ones you don't need/want. You can keep it basic and just do it in the app list settings or you can go a bit deeper and use an app from the Play Store to disable apps or go all old school and use pm on the phone's shell to do it. (pm -hide com.vznavigator.Generic for example) Once you've done that, your phone will be as pure as it can be without putting a custom ROM on it. Update the apps now or later.
5) Log into your Google account on a desktop browser and go to the Play Store. Use that list of apps you made before to bring them all up in the browser. Hit install there and choose your shiny new S8 as the destination. (This is just quicker than going into the Play Store on your phone and searching for each of them.) They'll download in the background on your phone as you choose them.
6) The crappy part. Set up the apps again. They're all installed fresh and clean so you'll need to launch them and put in passwords, accounts, settings, etc. It's painful, but it is the only way to guarantee that no gremlins on the phone came along with transfers.
7) Pop in that SD card you had with all your pics, music, ringtones, etc. on it.
8) Finish set up. Set your camera to use the SD card, choose the SD card as the storage location for offline YouTube and Netflix videos, etc.
9) Enjoy your new phone.
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sebastianraven said:
Smart switch works on multiple devices on Android and iOS. I'm going to give it a go first.
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Don't do it. It seems so nice and slick, but it's caused grief every single time I've used it. Subtle glitches sometimes, force quits other times.
Averix said:
6) The crappy part. Set up the apps again. They're all installed fresh and clean so you'll need to launch them and put in passwords, accounts, settings, etc. It's painful
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Thanks for the comprehensive list, good stuff there. To combat #6, I use a password manager (LastPass) which will autologin to my apps with a fingerprint. Saves a lot of typing, and I'll give the FPS a good workout and get used to the placement in the meanwhile.
i just use google account too download previous google store apps and populate the contacts. then get my 3rd party apk installed, that i keep on my sd card. things like unlimited skip pandora, etc.
I am coming from iOS, not sure how much it can be transferred... I guest only photo and contact, without apps...
Will missed some apps that I bought... need to buy it again on Google Store.
sanjsrik said:
If we're coming from a non-Samsung device, is there another tool we could use to do the same thing? As the bootloader will be locked, I can't rely on TiBackup or anything which I've always used in the past.
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cloneIT
i like to start from scratch
skyhew said:
I am coming from iOS, not sure how much it can be transferred... I guest only photo and contact, without apps...
Will missed some apps that I bought... need to buy it again on Google Store.
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I wouldn't even transfer photos. Just download Google Photos on iOS and upload them and then download them on the new device.
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So since I cant use TB right now. I am trying to use Helium to restore from my Galaxy S6 to my S8.
I already did smart switch to get the core around, but of course as expected it didnt do all my apps since some arent on play store. So now am trying to restore from my Helium backup, but many times it gets stuck on a restore for an app.
So just wondering, how else is everyone getting around all this? Thanks.
try again.
force stop the app on both devices and try again(make sure you do a sync, they're easier and more stable than backup-restore)
the backup process can be a bit unstable, some apps took several tries for me.
also good to know, running apps can't be transferred.
so kill any app you plan on transferring.
and smart switch does sideloaded and discontinued apps too if you use a cable to do the transfer.
Mysticales said:
So since I cant use TB right now. I am trying to use Helium to restore from my Galaxy S6 to my S8.
I already did smart switch to get the core around, but of course as expected it didnt do all my apps since some arent on play store. So now am trying to restore from my Helium backup, but many times it gets stuck on a restore for an app.
So just wondering, how else is everyone getting around all this? Thanks.
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Had the same problem. The next day, I tried restoring one at a time and it worked. Then, I was able to restore the rest as a batch. I can't explain it.
thedicemaster said:
try again.
force stop the app on both devices and try again(make sure you do a sync, they're easier and more stable than backup-restore)
the backup process can be a bit unstable, some apps took several tries for me.
also good to know, running apps can't be transferred.
so kill any app you plan on transferring.
and smart switch does sideloaded and discontinued apps too if you use a cable to do the transfer.
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Smart Switch doesnt do the app data tho. So even with side loading, Id still be missing the data.
Now as for the sync. Are you doing to internal storage or google drive?
I did try restoring some apps one by one, and "says" complete, but never is. Doesnt even show it installed. So rather odd.
Just know right now. I am lil annoyed without root for a simple process to backup apps and data and restoring. Reminds me of when I do a clean windows install.... 3 days worth of setting up again vs 1 click of Titanium Backup restore. >.<
i used sync.
sync sends the backup straight to your new phone, and can only be triggered from your new phone.
you select your old phone from the restore screen, choose an app, and it will make a backup and sends it to your new phone, which then immediately installs it.
I can't get Helium to work on my S8+ at all. It says it restores apps and data, but the app is never installed. Tried one app at a time, everything. Helium worked fine going from my Note 4 to Note 7, then to my replacement Note 7, then from my Note 7 to my S7E. But from my S7E to my S8+ - it does not work. PITA and there are several apps I REALLY needed to migrate data.
did you try installing the app through the play store or smart switch first?
I didn't have any real issues, but I did go through smart switch first.
Anyone figure out the solution???? Please post
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i used sync.
sync sends the backup straight to your new phone, and can only be triggered from your new phone.
you select your old phone from the restore screen, choose an app, and it will make a backup and sends it to your new phone, which then immediately installs it.
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Would be nice if I knew how "sync" mode worked. All I get from the restore/sync list under my devices is "An error occured while retrieving your device list"
I can't get Helium to recognize that the S8 is in PTP mode. Even when it is, Helium states that the phone is in MTP mode. Anyone else experiencing this problem with Helium and their Galaxy S8 Plus?
Same issue with helium, it restores everything but then the apps simply aren't there.
I've tried everything to make Helium work - still says apps installed, but they never do. Surely there has to be an answer to this riddle.
Same here. No luck on data / settings being restored
Anyone have any updates or other solutions we can use? Helium devs never responded back to me.. so I feel like I just wasted 5$ on them.
Maybe time to give a one star rating for them on the playstore until they address the issue.
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i used sync.
sync sends the backup straight to your new phone, and can only be triggered from your new phone.
you select your old phone from the restore screen, choose an app, and it will make a backup and sends it to your new phone, which then immediately installs it.
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Is sync part of Smart Switch or Helium? Forgive me if question is obvious but since thread is about Helium, just wanted to make sure you are referring to a feature of SmartSwitch
Thanks
it's a feature in helium.
i don't know exactly how the devices find each other, but in my restore screen i can see my old phone as a source and if i select it i can choose from almost any app currently installed on my old phone and have it start a backup on the old phone that immediately restores on my S8.
it is far more reliable than backup to cloud for me.
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it's a feature in helium.
i don't know exactly how the devices find each other, but in my restore screen i can see my old phone as a source and if i select it i can choose from almost any app currently installed on my old phone and have it start a backup on the old phone that immediately restores on my S8.
it is far more reliable than backup to cloud for me.
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Sync doesn't work for me. I have an error,
An error occurred while retrieving your device list. Getting this on both the new SO and the source phone.
Any secrets to getting the device to list? I am running the latest version of Helium.
Sync doesn't work with the S8. I do believe it was an option when I went from my Note 4 to my Note 7, then from my first Note 7 to my second Note 7, and also available from my second Note 7 to my S7E back in early February. But there is something not allowing sync between devices on Helium and the S8/S8+. So synicing isn't an option when the phones are not being "seen" as being available to sync. As others have said, there is an error message saying phones aren't available or something similar.
thedicemaster said:
it's a feature in helium.
i don't know exactly how the devices find each other, but in my restore screen i can see my old phone as a source and if i select it i can choose from almost any app currently installed on my old phone and have it start a backup on the old phone that immediately restores on my S8.
it is far more reliable than backup to cloud for me.
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CrozB said:
Sync doesn't work for me. I have an error,
An error occurred while retrieving your device list. Getting this on both the new SO and the source phone.
Any secrets to getting the device to list? I am running the latest version of Helium.
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Also do you have to have premium version ?
Hi all,
I currently have a OnePlus 5, purchased when it was first announced. It's still doing sterling service, but is now getting to be 3 years old. I was in the market for a new phone as the OP5's GPS is not that reliable (at least, not on my phone) and I wanted something different. I was looking at the OP 7T from last year. Seemed OK.
However, I watched the intro from OnePlus yesterday and was struck by three points:
1. It has the latest of everything. Therefore, it should have fewer hardware bugs (e.g. GPS)
2. It has 5G - which I can get on my current Vodafone contract
3. It will get support from OnePlus for longer.
What finally swayed my decision was the offer, for the same list price, of a box set with the new headphones and a case included - oh, and delivery by tomorrow.
So, I bit the bullet and ordered one - I went for the top model 8 (12Gb/25Gb) as I want the storage but I don't believe the extra £200 for the top model 8 Pro is worth it.
I'll report back here when it arrives.
Alan
It arrived today in an enourmous box. What I ordered was one of the early 'pop up' offers which, for the list price, gives me two extra bumper cases (cyan and black) as well as a clear one plus the new OnePlus Z headphones. It came with 51% battery charge and, when set up, immediately did an OS upgrade to the latest.
The unboxing pictures are below.
Congratulations.
I though that stock would only be shipped late April? Where did you order it from?
Wonder if they do International shipping too ?
Majed aka Soul Guy said:
Congratulations.
I though that stock would only be shipped late April? Where did you order it from?
Wonder if they do International shipping too
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I ordered it from OnePlus themselves in the UK, from their web site. There was something on there about early orders get a 'pop up' box - which I managed to get.
As to shipping overseas, sorry - you'll have to ask them. Go to www.oneplus.com/uk and see what you can get.
Alan
I also did a "OnePlus Switch" to move my apps and data across from my old phone. It all went very smoothly.
I only have two issues
Minor one - I lost all my old conversations from WhatsApp.
Not so minor one (but not OnePlus's fault). I have an app which connects to a camera at my fathers house so I can see when he is sitting down and that he is OK. I've forgotten the password so I have to keep my old phone, just for that app!
Alan
alan sh said:
I also did a "OnePlus Switch" to move my apps and data across from my old phone. It all went very smoothly.
I only have two issues
Minor one - I lost all my old conversations from WhatsApp.
Not so minor one (but not OnePlus's fault). I have an app which connects to a camera at my fathers house so I can see when he is sitting down and that he is OK. I've forgotten the password so I have to keep my old phone, just for that app!
Alan
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Thanks.
Regarding whatsApp, if you log back in from your old device and do a backup for WhatsApp, then delete WhatsApp from your new phone and re-dowload it again, during the setup of WhatsApp, you'll get the option to restore.
I do it all the time and you can even choose if you wanna backup just chats or include photos or videos (or both) as well.
Works like a charm so long as you have cloud space.
Regarding you second issue with the camera app, can't you just select *forgot password "?
For future reference, I highly recommend using one of the password saving apps.
Hope the Whatsapp solution works for you.
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Majed aka Soul Guy said:
Thanks.
Regarding whatsApp, if you log back in from your old device and do a backup for WhatsApp, then delete WhatsApp from your new phone and re-dowload it again, during the setup of WhatsApp, you'll get the option to restore.
I do it all the time and you can even choose if you wanna backup just chats or include photos or videos (or both) as well.
Works like a charm so long as you have cloud space.
Regarding you second issue with the camera app, can't you just select *forgot password "?
For future reference, I highly recommend using one of the password saving apps.
Hope the Whatsapp solution works for you.
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Thanks - I'll give it (whatsapp backup) a go.
No, unfortunately there is no way to say you've forgotten the password. It's a cheap chinese monitoring camera and the app doesn't have that option.
Alan
The box have adapter for audio jack?
alan sh said:
I also did a "OnePlus Switch" to move my apps and data across from my old phone. It all went very smoothly.
I only have two issues
Minor one - I lost all my old conversations from WhatsApp.
Not so minor one (but not OnePlus's fault). I have an app which connects to a camera at my fathers house so I can see when he is sitting down and that he is OK. I've forgotten the password so I have to keep my old phone, just for that app!
Alan
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To restore WhatsApp data you need to copy the msgstore file which will be in WhatsApp > Databases folder.
Clear all WhatsApp app data from new device or reinstall the WhatsApp.
Then Copy the latest msgstore file (after backup) from old phone and then paste the file to the exact same location in your new OnePlus.
Now during the setup it will fetch the data.
That's all, Enjoy!
nosfaratu said:
The box have adapter for audio jack?
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No.
Alan
ashubais said:
To restore WhatsApp data you need to copy the msgstore file which will be in WhatsApp > Databases folder.
Clear all WhatsApp app data from new device or reinstall the WhatsApp.
Then Copy the latest msgstore file (after backup) from old phone and then paste the file to the exact same location in your new OnePlus.
Now during the setup it will fetch the data.
That's all, Enjoy!
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Thanks.
On the new device there is no database directory. Can I just add it without re-installing (which I don't want to do)
Alan
alan sh said:
Thanks.
On the new device there is no database directory. Can I just add it without re-installing (which I don't want to do)
Alan
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Yes, or setup Google drive WhatsApp backup on your old device. And do restore on new device
Thanks. I'll try that
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Yes, or setup Google drive WhatsApp backup on your old device. And do restore on new device
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I did that - closed off and restarted WhastsApp (without a reinstall) and it did NOT see the old data.
Alan
alan sh said:
I did that - closed off and restarted WhastsApp (without a reinstall) and it did NOT see the old data.
Alan
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If Database folder is not there then you can manually create database folde and add the msgstore file in it.
It will not detect chat until you clear WhatsApp data or reinstall WhatsApp.
ashubais said:
If Database folder is not there then you can manually create database folde and add the msgstore file in it.
It will not detect chat until you clear WhatsApp data or reinstall WhatsApp.
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Thanks but I've gone too far now to start again.
I've saved the pictures and videos from the old phone now and wiped it.
Cheers
ALan
How do you like the new headphones? Do they stay in your ears?
Can anyone confirm if OnePlus 8 UA for Verizon will be the 12gb 256 version? Sorry if wrong thread
Congratulations you got yourself a punchhole. I'll have to pass this time. Bought the red magic 5g. Yes i rather have the worst software before i have a hole in my screen.
My OnePlus 8 arrived today for me is it a upgrade when you come from normal 7 like me. The scrolling smoothness on 90hz is really nice and way better compare to the normal 7. The curved screen is not that bad as I thought. The punch hole camera is needing to get used.But all in all to me is a nice phone which runs pretty fast and smooth. So will see whether I can like the punch hole or not, if not I sent the phone back :good:
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I really like the hardware profile of this phone. I am not a fan of all the Samsung apps and services. I know that defeats the purpose of buying a note 20 ultra, but at the same time. I don't think there will be an android phone released this year that will actually compete with this power house of a device. While I am currently in the iPhone camp, I am looking to switch back to android. I have yet to find a phone that makes that permanent and I always just go back to iPhone. I am asking this because that was the main reason I never kept the note 10+, had so many issues with their services and apps that after a few days I said **** it and just switched back.
I know there are some things that can be done via adb to remove and disable certain things on previous samsung devices. The question is how much of samsungs bloat can you actually disable and remove from this phone?
swagglepuff said:
I really like the hardware profile of this phone. I am not a fan of all the Samsung apps and services. I know that defeats the purpose of buying a note 20 ultra, but at the same time. I don't think there will be an android phone released this year that will actually compete with this power house of a device. While I am currently in the iPhone camp, I am looking to switch back to android. I have yet to find a phone that makes that permanent and I always just go back to iPhone. I am asking this because that was the main reason I never kept the note 10+, had so many issues with their services and apps that after a few days I said **** it and just switched back.
I know there are some things that can be done via adb to remove and disable certain things on previous samsung devices. The question is how much of samsungs bloat can you actually disable and remove from this phone?
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You can disable or uninstall anything you want with adb but once uninstalled you may be up a creek without a paddle. I am proficient with adb but I us Package Disabler Pro from the Play Store. If you disable something important just go back and re-enable it.
I've been using adb since the T-Mobile G1, back then you had to use adb commands just to get a screen shot. Package disabler pro has 3 tabs - bloat, system apps and apps you've installed.
If you read about how to uninstall chinese apps from chinese phones, you will xome across a post which explains how to debloat from adb. Try it if you want to debloat
PD MDM package blocker, buy direct from their website for like $3.99, not it's on Playstore. Uses little battery or resources as it runs at boot in the background.
You can block or unblock apks as you wish and set a widget to turn off/on selected ones.
Playstore is one I do this with as it's always busy in the background. You can block carrier software updates so unwanted firmware isn't jammed down your throat.
I have about 60 blocked apks.
It will block all bloatware and many system apks however not all of Knox and Samsung Pay.
You can kill wittle Bixby, amen. However the cam needs Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision framework to function properly.
Rarely does malfunction but if it does you will need to disable it as system administrator as it will run in Safe Mode too. You can save your blocked list for future reloads or refreshes too.
Without this app my unrooted Samsungs be a complete mess... it's my favorite apk. It gets loaded first.
blackhawk said:
PD MDM package blocker, buy direct from their website for like $3.99, not it's on Playstore. Uses little battery or resources as it runs at boot in the background.
You can block or unblock apks as you wish and set a widget to turn off/on selected ones.
Playstore is one I do this with as it's always busy in the background. You can block carrier software updates so unwanted firmware isn't jammed down your throat.
I have about 60 blocked apks.
It will block all bloatware and many system apks however not all of Knox and Samsung Pay.
You can kill wittle Bixby, amen. However the cam needs Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision framework to function properly.
Rarely does malfunction but if it does you will need to disable it as system administrator as it will run in Safe Mode too. You can save your blocked list for future reloads or refreshes too.
Without this app my unrooted Samsungs be a complete mess... it's my favorite apk. It gets loaded first.
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That picture you attached brings me hope!! I ran into a lot of issues when I tried the note 10 will all the different crap it has you set up. Had to factory reset in less than 24 hours of having the phone to fix issues with Samsung services mainly Bixby and smart control services. I honestly like the simple ass turn on iPhone use iPhone setup. I miss having the little things around like changing my icons. I miss tasker the most, that program is stupidly powerful and had some really useful profiles setup.
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That picture you attached brings me hope!! I ran into a lot of issues when I tried the note 10 will all the different crap it has you set up. Had to factory reset in less than 24 hours of having the phone to fix issues with Samsung services mainly Bixby and smart control services. I honestly like the simple ass turn on iPhone use iPhone setup. I miss having the little things around like changing my icons. I miss tasker the most, that program is stupidly powerful and had some really useful profiles setup.
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Samsung has the most customizable non-rooted phones there are. Apple doesn't come close.
It comes at price though as there's a lot to learn.
You need to play with it, a lot.
The Good Lock apps especially One Hand Operation+, custom themes and hundreds of free icon packs are some of the Samsung Android perks.
The 10+ is my first phone to have the memory I need; 1 tb.... hell yeah.
The bad part is unlike Apple there can be conflicts caused by the many different software's and hardware's.
A reload is ok; the next load is always better.
I'm on my 3rd... my SD card is the data/backup drive now. So I won't need to upload near as much the next reload.
I backup all my apks for the next reload to save time and in case they go playstore extinct.
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That picture you attached brings me hope!! I ran into a lot of issues when I tried the note 10 will all the different crap it has you set up. Had to factory reset in less than 24 hours of having the phone to fix issues with Samsung services mainly Bixby and smart control services. I honestly like the simple ass turn on iPhone use iPhone setup. I miss having the little things around like changing my icons. I miss tasker the most, that program is stupidly powerful and had some really useful profiles setup.
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If you like to tinker, you can also use substratum to theme your Samsung now. You need substratum lite and synergy to make it work. Been using it since the Note 8, the current instructions are toward the end of the thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/substratum/official-starting-substratum-andromeda-t3798316
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my SD card is the data/backup drive now. So I won't need to upload near as much the next reload.
I backup all my apks for the next reload to save time and in case they go playstore extinct.
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What do you use to backup abs does it Also retain the data? Looking for something similar while also saving the app/data
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Ziocomposite said:
What do you use to backup abs does it Also retain the data? Looking for something similar while also saving the app/data
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Apk Export: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ort&pcampaignid=APPU_1_A_9MX9iMKsnesAWR5Z_YDA
Remember to save a backup copy to your SD card and/or computer in case the OS crashes and burns. It's rare but it can happen especially if your loading new 3rd party apps.
It allows you to backup system apps/updates too.
Occasionally you want the 2nd update to a system app but the 3rd one is buggy and the factory loaded version is inferior to the 2nd update; no problem if you saved the 2nd or whatever version!
Unfortunately if the app doesn't allow you to export the settings data your boned. Apps like Poweramp fortunately do, it take a lot of work to configure it, lol I keep a couple backups.
Also explore Demo Mode. You can stop animations completely to get even more speed as well as other system tweaks. Get Samsung's Sound Assistant to dail in the volume settings.
As for 3rd launchers be warned, those reloads I talked of were caused by a 3rd party launcher.
Put the phone in a boot loop.... twice.
I've tried a couple launchers but none ran as good as the native Samsung one. It's fast, reliable and isn't a power hog.
You're going to have a lot of fun... I'm still learning new things about my 10+ and Pie.
The 20 U is a very capable Android
This is what my stock 10+ looks like.
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Apk Export: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ort&pcampaignid=APPU_1_A_9MX9iMKsnesAWR5Z_YDA
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Much appreciated. Will download and give it a try.
Have been using Action Launcher since Note 8 and works so far with gestures on the N20U!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.actionlauncher.playstore
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Much appreciated. Will download and give it a try.
Have been using Action Launcher since Note 8 and works so far with gestures on the N20U!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.actionlauncher.playstore
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It's a great app. No ads.
It allows batch processing too.
All too often a new owner and/or update kills a once great app, so...