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[Q] GS4 Multi Window don't work.

At&t GS4 32GB version.
Multi Window not working.
It is checked (lit up green) in the setting (notifications area).
DID a long press of the back button.
Rebooted.
Tried everything, it don't work.
Could root have broken it?
Titanium Backup Broke it?
All I did was root my device to be able to use Titanium backup to restore all ym data from my GS3.
That data was...
My call log, SMS / MMS History.
A few Games and the data from them.
Wifi Settings
Call History.
That was it.
Andorid 4.2.2 that came with the phone.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

Restoring that type of system data can cause many odd issues. This why it is never advised to restore any system data at all. Only user apps
W.T Nexus 4

Is there a better way to restore call logs, MMS/SMS messages, contacts and all the WIFI hotspots (passwords) I have saved?
That stuff is pretty important to me. I use the phone for business so to have every SMS message is super important. My call logs are important an d obviously my contacts are important. The few games I play on a regular basis are important too (but there are only 3 of them).
Can something like restoring that kind of data KILL multi window?

Contacts are backed up with your google account so those are not a worry. There are a few sms backup programs out there that when restored work properly but non that do mms that I remember. Your games are fine as that is user data and nothing system related. The call logs can be backed up with some 3rd party apps as well. As for the Wi-Fi spots I don't know of any that backup those. Yes it could cause these issues as each device and OS version can handle how these are stored very differently.
W.T Nexus 4

zelendel said:
Contacts are backed up with your google account so those are not a worry. There are a few sms backup programs out there that when restored work properly but non that do mms that I remember. Your games are fine as that is user data and nothing system related. The call logs can be backed up with some 3rd party apps as well. As for the Wi-Fi spots I don't know of any that backup those. Yes it could cause these issues as each device and OS version can handle how these are stored very differently.
W.T Nexus 4
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Possible solution to getting multi window working?

Your not gonna like the sound of this but most likely a factory reset and start from scratch. Make sure it is working and then go from there.
W.T Nexus 4

zelendel said:
Your not gonna like the sound of this but most likely a factory reset and start from scratch. Make sure it is working and then go from there.
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It's an option..(which I want to avoid)
Anyone one else want to weigh in?

Turn off multi window then turn back on. Then holdback button. If that doesn't work reboot phoneqnd try again

Comp1demon said:
It's an option..(which I want to avoid)
Anyone one else want to weigh in?
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First of all, as far as I can remember all Call history, SMS/MMS and Wifi Settings, can be passed to the S4 via Kies, if I'm wrong, then just use the Samsung Smart Switcher, you can get this from the Samsung Apps, or at least in my case, inside the S4 box there were some instructions and a URL to go to do this. http://www.samsungsmartswitch.com
Second, once you get any annoying error on your phone, you don't have to many options to fix it, other than going the factory route, but for your information, if you use ODIN and the OEM Factory Rom that is on this site, you will install everything back to factory, but doing this won't affect any of your settings or Apps, it will just refresh all rest to factory all your system Apps, SO, just do this first (you can even do it on Kies, just use the Firmware Upgrade and Initialization option) and then Check for the Early Month Update, update your phone, then do the Smart Switch thing and you will be almost completely covered.
Just leave your re-root for the end, just in case. Good Luck.

erasat said:
First of all, as far as I can remember all Call history, SMS/MMS and Wifi Settings, can be passed to the S4 via Kies, if I'm wrong, then just use the Samsung Smart Switcher, you can get this from the Samsung Apps, or at least in my case, inside the S4 box there were some instructions and a URL to go to do this. http://www.samsungsmartswitch.com
Second, once you get any annoying error on your phone, you don't have to many options to fix it, other than going the factory route, but for your information, if you use ODIN and the OEM Factory Rom that is on this site, you will install everything back to factory, but doing this won't affect any of your settings or Apps, it will just refresh all rest to factory all your system Apps, SO, just do this first (you can even do it on Kies, just use the Firmware Upgrade and Initialization option) and then Check for the Early Month Update, update your phone, then do the Smart Switch thing and you will be almost completely covered.
Just leave your re-root for the end, just in case. Good Luck.
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Well I guess it came to that.....
Kies is a really cool app - I had no clue it was better than titanium backup.
No need to root I guess.
Kies would not restore official rom IT kept locking up after download.
I ended up using ODIN.
Took Two times then a DATA WIPE.
Then Kies to restore everything but my Multi Window is working.
Thanks...
But now I am wondering if a data wipe was really all I needed instead of redoing the ROM?

Comp1demon said:
Well I guess it came to that.....
Kies is a really cool app - I had no clue it was better than titanium backup.
No need to root I guess.
Kies would not restore official rom IT kept locking up after download.
I ended up using ODIN.
Took Two times then a DATA WIPE.
Then Kies to restore everything but my Multi Window is working.
Thanks...
But now I am wondering if a data wipe was really all I needed instead of redoing the ROM?
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Glad that at least is working and you have your data restored on your S4. but just FYI, I use Titanium Backup PRO in all my devices, is great for backup all your apps, and then you can restore all of them with even the data, BUT when you are moving from a device to another, or even with teh same device, when you change Roms, it's not recommended to restore all data and system apps, next time just do the restore your apps option. I have successfully restored all System and Apps before, when only when I had a good backup of all o fit, and then screwed something up, so I just reinstalled same Rom or do a factory reset, then do the full restore, it can definitely save you a lot of work and time.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore
I've been using this app forever give it a shot before doing a factory reset

zelendel said:
Contacts are backed up with your google account so those are not a worry. There are a few sms backup programs out there that when restored work properly but non that do mms that I remember. Your games are fine as that is user data and nothing system related. The call logs can be backed up with some 3rd party apps as well. As for the Wi-Fi spots I don't know of any that backup those. Yes it could cause these issues as each device and OS version can handle how these are stored very differently.
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Just FYI, Google Account also backs up WiFi information (SSID + Passwords). I found this out surprisingly when I upgraded from an HTC EVO 3D to the GS 4. When I added my Google Account, it proceeded to restore my home screen wallpaper, my apps, my contacts, and my Wifi info.

Smart Switch or Start from Scratch?

Just curious if people use Smart Switch (or similar programs/apps) to transfer all the old data/contacts/music/apps to the new phone or start fresh, re-download apps one by one, etc? When I switch to a new device, I'm usually (maybe unreasonably) fearful that some stray bit of old or unused data or file will transfer over that will affect the performance of the new device, thinking I'm making it 'dirty'. I also use it as an opportunity to purge apps I don't use enough to warrant keeping them. Over time I always collect apps I use maybe one time and I leave them there, no reason why. Time to clean house!
Coming from S7E, when I go into Best Buy to pick up the S8+ I'm sure they'll ask if I want them to OTG the data over... No thanks, I want my baby clean.

With smart switch you can chose what you want to copy. Yo

I might have to check out this smart switch. I usually back up everything with Titanium then restore on the new device. The problem is that often causes problems if you restore the data that goes with the apps (last time I did that it screwed up notifications for things like whatsapp and emails), I think it was due to going from kitkat to marshmallow on my S5 and the difference in permissions handling between them probably screwed it up when restoring data. Of course not restoring the data means I lose all my save games, old messages in whatsapp, call logs, saved wifi networks etc etc so it would be nice to restore these things without screwing up anything on the new device. I wonder if Smart Switch (never heard of it before) could do it better than trying to restore from Titanium?
I guess not, just installed Smart Switch on my S5 and it won't even run. Tap to open it, it flashes up on the screen then vanishes.

I'm going to try smart switch, loading it now on my Nexus 6.
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I used smart switch on my last couple of upgrades I usually backup to PC on the morning the new phones due to arrival.
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Well I still can't get smart switch to even load on my S5. Same thing constantly, tap the icon to load it, a smart switch screen flashes up then vanishes. No error messages and it stil shows in the recents menu, selecting it from there does the same thing, smart switch comes up, then vanishes again.
No idea why, I am using phoenix rom for my S5 which I think has bits of S7E firmware in it but that shouldnt cause an issue, the phone itself couldnt be running any better and its still a samsung android phone so smart switch should at least run, instead of vanishing without any kind of error message to give me a bluddy clue as to what i need to do to make it work.
Are there any good alternatives to smart switch? googling it just brings up the usual bunch of junk you get in these types of searches that i dont trust at all.

When I use smart switch it always gives me a rouge run away app that kills my batter and I end up factory resetting to correct it so what I started doing was sms backup and restore to restore my call logs, txt and sms messages including pictures and allowing Google to restore my apps ( no data) and go from there. Yeah I know I have to reset up my apps but I don't care at least I start from a somewhat clean slate and have everything I need . That's just my experience and opinion.
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If we're coming from a non-Samsung device, is there another tool we could use to do the same thing? As the bootloader will be locked, I can't rely on TiBackup or anything which I've always used in the past.

sanjsrik said:
If we're coming from a non-Samsung device, is there another tool we could use to do the same thing? As the bootloader will be locked, I can't rely on TiBackup or anything which I've always used in the past.
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Helium backup and mybackup.

I like to tranfer everything because i have so much.
But funny thing is tho when i first got my s7 edge the smart switch didnt work, everything didnt tranfer.
Went to the note 7. Then went to a new note 7 (recall) still didnt tranfer my apps. Back to the s7 i went fresh and it now backs up correctly. So ill try the smart switch again.
Then box up ky s7e and ship it back

sanjsrik said:
If we're coming from a non-Samsung device, is there another tool we could use to do the same thing? As the bootloader will be locked, I can't rely on TiBackup or anything which I've always used in the past.
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Smart switch works on multiple devices on Android and iOS. I'm going to give it a go first.

I always just start from scratch. Had too many problems in the past with apps misbehaving. I'd rather just devote a few hours to reloading manually than devote days to figuring out wtf is going wrong.

Starting from scratch. Had some issues with my pixel XL when I transferred my data

Nothing works 100% right when you transfer. It's just a fact. I've gone from S6 to S7, S7 to Note, Note back to S7, and other Android to Android transfers. Inevitably some app or setting screws something up. It might be minor, it might cause reboots. Not worth the risk. SmartSwitch is very slick, but it still can cause grief.
This is what I'd suggest based on past experiences.
1) Use an unencrypted SD card to copy photos, music, ringtones, and anything else media related between phones. There is no downside to this. You can save new pics to the SD card on the new phone while keeping all your old pics and it will just work. (Make sure and back stuff up. Phone or SD card, you never know when things will die.) You're coming from an S7, so you have that SD card option. If other users don't have an SD slot, copy the files to your computer and then to the new phone.
2) Make a list of all the apps that are relevant to you. There is likely a lot of baggage on your current phone you just left there. That app you downloaded once for one purpose that you never deleted. The app that is specific for the phone you're coming from and has no use on the new one. The picture editing app you downloaded but then started using something else. Bottom line, only bring along the baggage that you use. Adding back unnecessary stuff can just slow down a phone.
3) Set up your shiny new S8. Get it on your network. Get your Google account signed in. Go through ALL the system preferences. Turn off garbage settings you won't ever use (Edge sports for instance...). Set the timeout and security settings you will use.
4) Look over the apps that are on the phone already. Disable the ones you don't need/want. You can keep it basic and just do it in the app list settings or you can go a bit deeper and use an app from the Play Store to disable apps or go all old school and use pm on the phone's shell to do it. (pm -hide com.vznavigator.Generic for example) Once you've done that, your phone will be as pure as it can be without putting a custom ROM on it. Update the apps now or later.
5) Log into your Google account on a desktop browser and go to the Play Store. Use that list of apps you made before to bring them all up in the browser. Hit install there and choose your shiny new S8 as the destination. (This is just quicker than going into the Play Store on your phone and searching for each of them.) They'll download in the background on your phone as you choose them.
6) The crappy part. Set up the apps again. They're all installed fresh and clean so you'll need to launch them and put in passwords, accounts, settings, etc. It's painful, but it is the only way to guarantee that no gremlins on the phone came along with transfers.
7) Pop in that SD card you had with all your pics, music, ringtones, etc. on it.
8) Finish set up. Set your camera to use the SD card, choose the SD card as the storage location for offline YouTube and Netflix videos, etc.
9) Enjoy your new phone.
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sebastianraven said:
Smart switch works on multiple devices on Android and iOS. I'm going to give it a go first.
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Don't do it. It seems so nice and slick, but it's caused grief every single time I've used it. Subtle glitches sometimes, force quits other times.

Averix said:
6) The crappy part. Set up the apps again. They're all installed fresh and clean so you'll need to launch them and put in passwords, accounts, settings, etc. It's painful
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Thanks for the comprehensive list, good stuff there. To combat #6, I use a password manager (LastPass) which will autologin to my apps with a fingerprint. Saves a lot of typing, and I'll give the FPS a good workout and get used to the placement in the meanwhile.

i just use google account too download previous google store apps and populate the contacts. then get my 3rd party apk installed, that i keep on my sd card. things like unlimited skip pandora, etc.

I am coming from iOS, not sure how much it can be transferred... I guest only photo and contact, without apps...
Will missed some apps that I bought... need to buy it again on Google Store.

sanjsrik said:
If we're coming from a non-Samsung device, is there another tool we could use to do the same thing? As the bootloader will be locked, I can't rely on TiBackup or anything which I've always used in the past.
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cloneIT

i like to start from scratch

skyhew said:
I am coming from iOS, not sure how much it can be transferred... I guest only photo and contact, without apps...
Will missed some apps that I bought... need to buy it again on Google Store.
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I wouldn't even transfer photos. Just download Google Photos on iOS and upload them and then download them on the new device.
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Best Way to Back Up All Data and Apps Nexus 6P

I about to redo my phone completely and I still own Titanium Backup Pro, is that still the best way to backup everything or can I simply backups my files (photos, videos, PDF's etc...) and use Google's basic restore apps when I reboot my phone from stock?
I know TB is great but last time I used it, I felt there were some bugs and it couldnt restore some apps which was disturbing. Then in the end, I have no idea what is actually did and did not restore, a real PITA.
It also took forever and felt like it got stuck in some parts.
Are there any downsides to using Google apps restore feature? Not sure if that will also maintain all my game/app data.
I also read some good things about TunesGo Android Backup.

Dathaeus said:
I about to redo my phone completely and I still own Titanium Backup Pro, is that still the best way to backup everything or can I simply backups my files (photos, videos, PDF's etc...) and use Google's basic restore apps when I reboot my phone from stock?
I know TB is great but last time I used it, I felt there were some bugs and it couldnt restore some apps which was disturbing. Then in the end, I have no idea what is actually did and did not restore, a real PITA.
It also took forever and felt like it got stuck in some parts.
Are there any downsides to using Google apps restore feature? Not sure if that will also maintain all my game/app data.
I also read some good things about TunesGo Android Backup.
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The Google apps restore has improved significantly since MM. I do keep TWRP Nandroid backups offline, but have not used them in ages. I use Google apps restore for all of my Play Store and System apps, and TiBu for the "non market" stuff... maybe ~30 apps? I zip the TiBu folder into a single file (Solid Explorer) and move it offline. When upgrading from 6-7 or 7-8, I just completely wipe the phone, flash a full image, let Google Play restore from the cloud. Then extract and use TiBu zip to restore the remaining apps. Icing is a Nova launcher backup to restore all the shortcuts and widgets, and my setup is 99% there in under one hour from a complete blank slate. I've also been experimenting with FlashFire to make ADB backups offline. Very slick backup tool, in addition to it's primary use of flashing monthly security updates. I have not yet restored a FF backup via ADB yet... I just keep one recent backup as a precaution. As for your other thread on rooting- I only see the upside. I don't see any downside. Android Pay not working irritates many, but I will never use that so not a concern. Why buy a Nexus if you're not going to unlock and root?

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The Google apps restore has improved significantly since MM. I do keep TWRP Nandroid backups offline, but have not used them in ages. I use Google apps restore for all of my Play Store and System apps, and TiBu for the "non market" stuff... maybe ~30 apps? I zip the TiBu folder into a single file (Solid Explorer) and move it offline. When upgrading from 6-7 or 7-8, I just completely wipe the phone, flash a full image, let Google Play restore from the cloud. Then extract and use TiBu zip to restore the remaining apps. Icing is a Nova launcher backup to restore all the shortcuts and widgets, and my setup is 99% there in under one hour from a complete blank slate. I've also been experimenting with FlashFire to make ADB backups offline. Very slick backup tool, in addition to it's primary use of flashing monthly security updates. I have not yet restored a FF backup via ADB yet... I just keep one recent backup as a precaution. As for your other thread on rooting- I only see the upside. I don't see any downside. Android Pay not working irritates many, but I will never use that so not a concern. Why buy a Nexus if you're not going to unlock and root?
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Awesome reply, exactly what I was looking for thanks!
So u gave a lot of info and I just want to summarize what I should do to redo my phone as cleanly and quickly as possible, but first can you tell me how you personally differentiate the non-market stuff for TiB? Meaning I have like 200 total apps, so just trying to plan a process here.

Dathaeus said:
Awesome reply, exactly what I was looking for thanks! So u gave a lot of info and I just want to summarize what I should do to redo my phone as cleanly and quickly as possible, but first can you tell me how you personally differentiate the non-market stuff for TiB? Meaning I have like 200 total apps, so just trying to plan a process here.
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Lots of tutorials out there on how to properly wipe and install a fresh stock image onto a blank phone. Probably the best example can be found on the Google webpage where you download the full image. I use Google restore for all system apps plus the apps I have paid for at the Google Play Store. I use TiBu only for those apps from elsewhere that are not backed up or restored by Google restore. It's made easy by TiBu because after Google restore is 100% complete restoring everything it possibly can, I fire up TiBu and use the "Restore Missing Apps" option.

Can't wait to see the day where all the apps (Gapps too) stop asking things you already seen or chosen when you do a factory reset or change your phone.
Android Backup and Restore has improved a lot, but still has a long road to go. Probably in the future, you just change the Phone and everything, not just some things, are restored. All the little checkbox you ticked in each of the apps. (With "Settings" app, this is happening a bit at the moment, some settings are restored).
Examples: "Dark theme enabled in Tapatalk" / "Use" or "Background activity disabled for Facebook Messenger lite".

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Can't wait to see the day where all the apps (Gapps too) stop asking things you already seen or chosen when you do a factory reset or change your phone.
Android Backup and Restore has improved a lot, but still has a long road to go. Probably in the future, you just change the Phone and everything, not just some things, are restored. All the little checkbox you ticked in each of the apps. (With "Settings" app, this is happening a bit at the moment, some settings are restored).
Examples: "Dark theme enabled in Tapatalk" / "Use" or "Background activity disabled for Facebook Messenger lite".
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You mean like with a full Nandroid backup? :laugh:

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You mean like with a full Nandroid backup? [emoji23]
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No that's different... that's a copy of everything in the phone. I'm talking about Android backup and restore.
So you don't need to start configuring alarms, app and everything after you upgrade your phone.
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Lots of tutorials out there on how to properly wipe and install a fresh stock image onto a blank phone. Probably the best example can be found on the Google webpage where you download the full image. I use Google restore for all system apps plus the apps I have paid for at the Google Play Store. I use TiBu only for those apps from elsewhere that are not backed up or restored by Google restore. It's made easy by TiBu because after Google restore is 100% complete restoring everything it possibly can, I fire up TiBu and use the "Restore Missing Apps" option.
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Ahhhhhhhh perfect, I didnt see that "Restore Missing Apps" last time I did this but that was a looooooooooong time ago... I was just nervous about using TiB again bec last time it kept freezing and it was an exhaustive process and basically I just gave up, pissed me off on a paid app.

thesebastian said:
Can't wait to see the day where all the apps (Gapps too) stop asking things you already seen or chosen when you do a factory reset or change your phone.
Android Backup and Restore has improved a lot, but still has a long road to go. Probably in the future, you just change the Phone and everything, not just some things, are restored. All the little checkbox you ticked in each of the apps. (With "Settings" app, this is happening a bit at the moment, some settings are restored).
Examples: "Dark theme enabled in Tapatalk" / "Use" or "Background activity disabled for Facebook Messenger lite".
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Ya seems like every app saves differently so thats why I laugh when people are like, whats the big deal, just redo your phone and only takes an hour.... um no. Maybe if you dont do much and use your phone to check email, calls, and texts and a couple of games but for me its an exhaustive process bec even after you think you restored, there are always some things in the subsequent weeks u find that wasnt restored, missing, or settings are all screwed up. Not a life breaker, but ya, someday maybe they will universally code settings the same way so a backup program can do something like what imaging does in Windows, although Android has many more roms and providers to deal with so u may need some additional steps anyways.

Yes it's a lot of work. For me is never an hour. It's like 3 hours after the android welcome assistant and then several days till I open app by app and setup the settings for each one of them.
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thesebastian said:
Yes it's a lot of work. For me is never an hour. It's like 3 hours after the android welcome assistant and then several days till I open app by app and setup the settings for each one of them.
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Yea that sounds much more realistic... some people try to oversimplify and think they are doing it in an hour but not.... or they just cant tell time.

I still use TiBi pro for backing app all of my apps. It's just quicker in my opinion. Immediately after flashing new images or roms, I just go into batch actions of TiBu and restore all missing apps with data. Takes about ten minutes and all my apps and data are restored.

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Yea that sounds much more realistic... some people try to oversimplify and think they are doing it in an hour but not.... or they just cant tell time.
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And I have to add that recently I'm just not rooting anymore...
Currently I have the 6P with open bootloader but just because by bank doesn't support android pay and I don't want to go through this android restore slow process.
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Pain-N-Panic said:
I still use TiBi pro for backing app all of my apps. It's just quicker in my opinion. Immediately after flashing new images or roms, I just go into batch actions of TiBu and restore all missing apps with data. Takes about ten minutes and all my apps and data are restored.
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You never had it freeze or not restore something properly? That is the one I am most worried about, its a highly frustrating process when an "automated restore" just doesnt finish the job after waiting over an hour, which is what happened last time I used it for my Galaxy S4, tried 3 times too, so I ditched it and used Google restore and dealt with all the settings after manually.

Dathaeus said:
You never had it freeze or not restore something properly? That is the one I am most worried about, its a highly frustrating process when an "automated restore" just doesnt finish the job after waiting over an hour, which is what happened last time I used it for my Galaxy S4, tried 3 times too, so I ditched it and used Google restore and dealt with all the settings after manually.
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No sir. I've been running TiBu pro on my Nexus 6p since launch. I've flashed almost every factory image/security update after completing a full wipe before each flash, thus removing all of my apps and data along with it. TiBu pulled through every time. I also make sure to do a batch "redo" of all my backups prior to wiping/flashing the device so this way all my apps data are up to date when I restore them. I'd be lost with TiBu!

Does TitaniumBackup actually work at all?

For almost as long as I've been using Android devices (going back to my old Nexus One), I've been reading rave review about TitaniumBackup. I've given it a shot on a few occassions, and I've never been able to get it do anything useful, largely because I was never willing to invest the time to understand the user interface.
I'm now faced with the task of upgrading my daughter's Nexus 10 from the last stock OS release to LineageOS, while preserving her apps, data, settings, etc. I thought that my biggest obstacle would be the locked bootloader (and the automatic data wipe when unlocking it). Fortunately, I was able to root the device with KingoRoot and install TWRP. At this point, I figures that I should be able to use TitaniumBackup to migrate her apps, assuming that I was willing to fight through the UI issues.
Boy was I wrong!
I've now spent the better part of a week trying to get this working. After (sort of) figuring out how to use USB storage, determining that the "create update.zip" function doesn't work at all, and finally, FINALLY, managing to actually restore an app, I find that it hasn't copied any of my daughter's data; all apps behave as if they're newly installed.
What at waste of time and money!

I'm sorry to hear about your experience.
I was a regular user of titanium Backup during the days I spent with changing roms regularly.
I've never used the update.zip feature myself, so I can't say anything about it, however I've never had issues with the app.
The essential workflow is to make a backup and then a restore when on a new rom, both the backup and restore may be done on individual apps or as a batch job for multiple apps.
When you r restored the app, did you select "app only" or "app +data"?
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When you r restored the app, did you select "app only" or "app +data"?
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App+data
The issue seems to be that it simply doesn't understand restricted profiles, which is pretty darn sad in 2017.

ipilcher said:
App+data
The issue seems to be that it simply doesn't understand restricted profiles, which is pretty darn sad in 2017.
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I assume with profile you refer to the mulitiple accounts feature built in android.
I have to say, I have never need to use multiple accounts on my devices, and as such am unfamiliar with them.

Oreo battery sucks...reset? And how...?

My wife and I both have experienced sluggishness and really bad battery life since upgrading to Oreo. Outside of the basics like Facebook, I'm not sure we use anything alike (for example I use NovaLauncher, she uses the samsung default, I use the Samsung text app while she uses verizon messaging and so on). But yet we both have the same issues. So, I'm not going to try chasing apps. I've cleared the cache partition on mine with no change.
So, unless anyone has any other suggestions, I think we need to head toward a factory reset.
The big question though...how do I do this and get all my data and apps and text messages, etc back on the phone?

I think that may help. I did a completely clean install through Odin and have experienced none of those issues really. To me, battery feels about the same
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You can backup things with Smartswitch which does contacts, messages, images. You should also be able to backup things to the Verizon and Samsung cloud as well.
App settings depends on if the apps use Google Cloud to backup or not. You just have to make sure you've enable that setting in your settings. Go to Settings->Accounts->Backup and restore and ensure the "Back up my data" option is turned on and notice which Google account you're backup up to.
You can select the Google Account option there and look to see what active backups you have enabled and when each app was backed up.
Once you've verified all that, then you can do the factory reset. Come back to the "Backup and Restore" section after you do and make sure "Automatic restore" is turned on. Any apps it could save the settings for will be restored. But be warned: not ALL apps will backup successfully to the Google Cloud so your mileage may vary.
I didn't have to do anything with my phone. I took the update (making sure things were backed up before doing so just in case), and things have been running smooth since. One app was acting a bit flaky but they updated it and it appears to be working correctly now.

iBolski said:
You can backup things with Smartswitch which does contacts, messages, images. You should also be able to backup things to the Verizon and Samsung cloud as well.
App settings depends on if the apps use Google Cloud to backup or not. You just have to make sure you've enable that setting in your settings. Go to Settings->Accounts->Backup and restore and ensure the "Back up my data" option is turned on and notice which Google account you're backup up to.
You can select the Google Account option there and look to see what active backups you have enabled and when each app was backed up.
Once you've verified all that, then you can do the factory reset. Come back to the "Backup and Restore" section after you do and make sure "Automatic restore" is turned on. Any apps it could save the settings for will be restored. But be warned: not ALL apps will backup successfully to the Google Cloud so your mileage may vary.
I didn't have to do anything with my phone. I took the update (making sure things were backed up before doing so just in case), and things have been running smooth since. One app was acting a bit flaky but they updated it and it appears to be working correctly now.
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Will any of those store wifi passwords?

doncaruana said:
Will any of those store wifi passwords?
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Your wifi passwords generally get backed up to Google if you select the proper options for what you want backed up.
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doncaruana said:
Will any of those store wifi passwords?
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I believe SmartSwitch does.

Just want to put it out there that I had AWFUL battery life initially, Google Music and others using waaaay more battery than normal after the in place upgrade and unbearably sluggish (Settings' search would take 30 seconds of spinning wheel at times) . Once I wiped things are finally butter smooth again Now if we can just get Google to fix Maps' bloat..

I'm also not liking the oreo update. I had just done a factory reset 2 weeks before the update came out (talk about bad timing) so i tried not doing it again. The worst has been android Auto. Is is now unusable slow (on chevy headunit). It used to work great, but i think the combination of new versions and oreo have made it to the point i don't even want to used it. Battery hasn't been good either. I guess it's another reset for me.

you can downgrade without issues since the binary stays the same...