I have my friend who has redmi note 5 Pro and his device is performing better than my device which is the redmi note 7 and even the heating issues are more in redmi note 7 when compared to redmi note 5 Pro. I get like 5hrs sot on a full charge for casual use. I'm on miui 10.3.6.0 global stable. Better gaming performance would be my priority right now. A help would be much appreciated
5 hours sot on gaming?
az09512 said:
5 hours sot on gaming?
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On casual use. While gaming it gives 3 hours and 40 mins
both phones have 4000mah battery and similar FHD+ screen.
the difference is: RN5 has SD636 and RN7 has SD660.
both are fabricated in 14nm but SD660 is more powerful, with better GPU and higher clock speed. that's why RN7 consume more power compared to RN5.
Unless you under-clocked the CPU and GPU, there's no logical way for RN7 to have better battery life compared to RN5; under the same circumstances.
but if we're talking about gaming, yes. RN7 has better graphic performance compared to RN5.
vexa said:
both phones have 4000mah battery and similar FHD+ screen.
the difference is: RN5 has SD636 and RN7 has SD660.
both are fabricated in 14nm but SD660 is more powerful, with better GPU and higher clock speed. that's why RN7 consume more power compared to RN5.
Unless you under-clocked the CPU and GPU, there's no logical way for RN7 to have better battery life compared to RN5; under the same circumstances.
but if we're talking about gaming, yes. RN7 has better graphic performance compared to RN5.
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Not really true. 660 is designed to be more battery efficient than the older 636. Check the performance comparison provided by Snapdragon.
Because the 660 is clocked at a higher speed and has a faster gpu. I have both phones and you get about 10% to 20% better performance with the 660 but you lose about the same on battery life.
For example the RN5 gets from 8 to 10 hours and the RN7 gets 6 to 8, depending on the games or features you are using of course. Maybe the 710 or 712 have similar performance to the 660 while having the battery life of the 636.
my neighbor has rn7 i have rn5 in free fire mine loads faster than his. i got to say that i use custom kernel and i have franko kernel manager and set profile for free fire to all cores at 1113mhz. and performance is same heat is the same.
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Not really true. 660 is designed to be more battery efficient than the older 636. Check the performance comparison provided by Snapdragon.
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No, it isn't, SD636 is an underclocked SD660 with a weaker GPU. The SD636 came after SD660, not the other way around like you said.
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Kulbhushan69 said:
I have my friend who has redmi note 5 Pro and his device is performing better than my device which is the redmi note 7 and even the heating issues are more in redmi note 7 when compared to redmi note 5 Pro. I get like 5hrs sot on a full charge for casual use. I'm on miui 10.3.6.0 global stable. Better gaming performance would be my priority right now. A help would be much appreciated
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The "performance" you mention is only battery related or actual gameplay related too?
If it is the later pay attention to some graphic changes from one device to another, Android games usually tend to add more visual effects according to the SoC being used, which in turn makes the game heavier.
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Just wondering how much an OC kernel actually helps with normal activities in non-gaming situations (such as browsing, java loading, etc). Besides benchmarks, does anyone TRULY notice a difference going from say 1.3 to 1.7?
I see the Tegra 3+ is out in the One X+ and wondering if we can OC to match?
I can say that some apps and games will load up faster and seem to run a little better but since this tablet already handles that so well it's hard for me to really pinpoint when something is going faster than normal.
I run mine at 1.5. Seems pretty snappy to me. Then again...it seemed pretty fast from the get go. I came from a cheap 7" Coby.
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I'm running Franco's kernel which runs the GPU at 484 MHz (OC from the stock 416MHz). The CPU is not overclockable with this kernel, which at first I wasn't happy with, as I usually OC my Nexus 7 at about 1.5GHz, dependent upon my mood . However, I haven't noticed a single difference in the real world. This kernel still hits 4800 points in Quadrant and 11`500 points in Antutu! Probably due to the slight GPU over clock xD.
CPU overclocking = impressive benchmarking, but little real world improvement and battery drain. Plus decreased life span on CPU.
GPU over clocking = much better gaming performance, big real world difference in gaming and little/no battery drain. More importantly though, NOVA 3 becomes 100 lag free!
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I'm running Franco's kernel which runs the GPU at 484 MHz (OC from the stock 416MHz). The CPU is not overclockable with this kernel, which at first I wasn't happy with, as I usually OC my Nexus 7 at about 1.5GHz, dependent upon my mood . However, I haven't noticed a single difference in the real world. This kernel still hits 4800 points in Quadrant and 11`500 points in Antutu! Probably due to the slight GPU over clock xD.
CPU overclocking = impressive benchmarking, but little real world improvement and battery drain. Plus decreased life span on CPU.
GPU over clocking = much better gaming performance, big real world difference in gaming and little/no battery drain. More importantly though, NOVA 3 becomes 100 lag free!
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Thank you very much for answering that is exactly the kind of response I wanted.
Hello Everyone! I couldn't find any threads dedicated to the Zenfone Max and hence, I am sharing my review here. I had the Zenfone Max for about 15-20 days for review and for under $200, This phone offers some decent specifications like Snapdragon 410 CPU, 2GB RAM and a monstrous 5000 mAh battery. The Battery life is just outstanding on this phone and I easily get more than 7 hours of screen on time and 2 days worth of battery life out of this phone. The performance of the phone although, is quite disappointing and Asus could have made a lighter version of Zen UI for the phone. I have made a full video review of the Zenfone Max so please have a look at it and I hope my video helps out the potential Zenfone Max buyers.
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GPS sucks ?
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Wow, I was surprised, but Asus Zenfone Max supports Ant+!!! Confirmed with IpSensorsMan and Ant+ cadence sensor.
Just bought Note 7 yesterday. Got an update. Current Rom version is Miui 10 (10.2.8.0) Stable. My phone's battery is draining a lot.
My previous device was Redmi Note 5 Ai and on that device I got a great battery backup. Like 1 hour+ SOT consume only 10% charge but on RN7 I got only 30-35 min SOT on 10% charge.
And draining percentage is also high, regular social media and other task takes around 400-500 mA continuously but on RN5 it was only 300-350 mA
Is is rom issue or something else?
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Just bought Note 7 yesterday. Got an update. Current Rom version is Miui 10 (10.2.8.0) Stable. My phone's battery is draining a lot.
My previous device was Redmi Note 5 Ai and on that device I got a great battery backup. Like 1 hour+ SOT consume only 10% charge but on RN7 I got only 30-35 min SOT on 10% charge.
And draining percentage is also high, regular social media and other task takes around 400-500 mA continuously but on RN5 it was only 300-350 mA
Is is rom issue or something else?
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RN5 and RN7 has same size battery. But RN7 uses more powerful and power hungry soc, AND has bigger display to light. So dont you think its only logical to get such results?
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RN5 and RN7 has same size battery. But RN7 uses more powerful and power hungry soc, AND has bigger display to light. So dont you think its only logical to get such results?
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Wait, i thought the more powerful a chipset is, the more it's optimized to be less battery hungry? Wow, thank goodness I never fell for those flagships with 3000mAh.
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Wait, i thought the more powerful a chipset is, the more it's optimized to be less battery hungry? Wow, thank goodness I never fell for those flagships with 3000mAh.
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With smartphone socs its all about semiconductor size. While its true that newer architecture 7nm snapdragon 855 will be more power EFFICIENT than 10nm snapdragon 845, it doesnt necessarily mean its gonna use less power, because its also faster, running at highers clocks and in result using more power. If 855 only had to reach 845 performance level, then yes, it would use less power. In this case, RN5 uses sd636, while RN7 uses sd660, which is basically same soc. Same architecture, same design, only difference being sd660 is a bit faster because its clock frequency is bigger. To put it simply sd660 is overclocked sd636. So logically it uses more power, because higher frequency requires higher voltage, and higher voltage means more energy used.
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With smartphone socs its all about semiconductor size. While its true that newer architecture 7nm snapdragon 855 will be more power EFFICIENT than 10nm snapdragon 845, it doesnt necessarily mean its gonna use less power, because its also faster, running at highers clocks and in result using more power. If 855 only had to reach 845 performance level, then yes, it would use less power. In this case, RN5 uses sd636, while RN7 uses sd660, which is basically same soc. Same architecture, same design, only difference being sd660 is a bit faster because its clock frequency is bigger. To put it simply sd660 is overclocked sd636. So logically it uses more power, because higher frequency requires higher voltage, and higher voltage means more energy used.
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Wow thanks for this.
Hey guys. Just wanted to share some tweaks with which you guys can get amazing battery life on your redmi note 3. I used this setup for 3 full charge cycles, and averaged about 10Hrs SOT with a 1 year old battery, when I was getting about 5-6 hrs of SOT only on normal pie/10 roms. Do give this setup a try if you want the absolute best battery, and don't mind about performance degradation a bit... The device now behaves like it's got a 5000Mah battery now. If you guys manage a better setup than this, then do share your setup down below. And please hit the thanks button if this helped you. Cheers:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:.
SETUP:
Havoc OS latest 8.1
Latest agni kernel 13.0
Spectrum profile to battery
In any kernel manager (I use fk kernel manager):
.Big cores disabled
.Little cores max clock at 1382Mhz. Min clock to 400Mhz.
.Undervolt to lowest stable value (It's different for everyone, so try out a stable value for you).
.GPU max freq to 432MHz. Min to 133Mhz.
.Adreno Idler to on.
**Guys who have the 2gb kenzo, try the mcaosp 8.0 ROM instead of havoc. It has better
RAM management for you guys.**
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Hey guys. Just wanted to share some tweaks with which you guys can get amazing battery life on your redmi note 3. I used this setup for 3 full charge cycles, and averaged about 10Hrs SOT with a 1 year old battery, when I was getting about 5-6 hrs of SOT only on normal pie/10 roms. Do give this setup a try if you want the absolute best battery, and don't mind about performance degradation a bit... The device now behaves like it's got a 5000Mah battery now. If you guys manage a better setup than this, then do share your setup down below. And please hit the thanks button if this helped you. Cheers:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:.
SETUP:
Havoc OS latest 8.1
Latest agni kernel 13.0
Spectrum profile to battery
In any kernel manager (I use fk kernel manager):
.Big cores disabled
.Little cores max clock at 1382Mhz. Min clock to 400Mhz.
.Undervolt to lowest stable value (It's different for everyone, so try out a stable value for you).
.GPU max freq to 432MHz. Min to 133Mhz.
.Adreno Idler to on.
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Lol why u disabling cores. If u fantasize about 5000mah battery then buy redmi 8. Most of the kenzo users gone to android 10.
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Lol why u disabling cores. If u fantasize about 5000mah battery then buy redmi 8. Most of the kenzo users gone to android 10.
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You don't like it don't use it. Don't criticize him for giving his opinion. You're talking as if he's forced you to disable your phones cores.
By the way, I'll try out the setup. Thanks for posting it for all kenzo users.
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@shivaay1234, Good tutorial - thank you! Could you please share your undervolting preferences?
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@shivaay1234, Good tutorial - thank you! Could you please share your undervolting preferences?
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Glad you liked it mate. I'll tell you my undervolting values, but it's different for everyone, so, do experiment.
400 and 695 mhz with 710mv
806mhz 745mv
1017mhz 825mv
1190mhz 880mv
1305mhz 915mv
1382mhz 935mv
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Glad you liked it mate. I'll tell you my undervolting values, but it's different for everyone, so, do experiment.
400 and 695 mhz with 710mv
806mhz 745mv
1017mhz 825mv
1190mhz 880mv
1305mhz 915mv
1382mhz 935mv
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Thanks a lot mate. You're setup is giving me close to 12hrs of sot, which is insane. I still can't believe it. Thanks man.
i will try, i dont care about android 10
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i will try, i dont care about android 10
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Lol. Same here mate.
shivaay1234 said:
Hey guys. Just wanted to share some tweaks with which you guys can get amazing battery life on your redmi note 3. I used this setup for 3 full charge cycles, and averaged about 10Hrs SOT with a 1 year old battery, when I was getting about 5-6 hrs of SOT only on normal pie/10 roms. Do give this setup a try if you want the absolute best battery, and don't mind about performance degradation a bit... The device now behaves like it's got a 5000Mah battery now. If you guys manage a better setup than this, then do share your setup down below. And please hit the thanks button if this helped you. Cheers:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:.
SETUP:
Havoc OS latest 8.1
Latest agni kernel 13.0
Spectrum profile to battery
In any kernel manager (I use fk kernel manager):
.Big cores disabled
.Little cores max clock at 1382Mhz. Min clock to 400Mhz.
.Undervolt to lowest stable value (It's different for everyone, so try out a stable value for you).
.GPU max freq to 432MHz. Min to 133Mhz.
.Adreno Idler to on.
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Where I should get that spectrum profile?
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Where I should get that spectrum profile?
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It's an app in the play store. Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.frap129.spectrum&hl=en
If anyone wondering, you can use Kernel Aduitor to disable cores and undervolting, it's free and it is quite comprehensive.
@shivaay1234 are you the guy who made that rapid os rom?
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@shivaay1234 are you the guy who made that rapid os rom?
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Yup.
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Yup.
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Oh cool. Bro, but why did you stop development of rapid os? I liked that ROM so much...
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Oh cool. Bro, but why did you stop development of rapid os? I liked that ROM so much...
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When Q sources become stable, I will release the Q version of the ROM.
I used to disable the big cores as well on a per-app basis. For light usage like listening to music or reading ebooks, downloading stuff in the background etc it used to yield tangible improvements in battery life. Also while charging to keep battery temp. in check. Now I have Tasker automate it all.
Funnily enough in Redmi Note 3 with only the little cores active device didn't feel much slower but in my Poco F1 whose little cores are much faster (higher IPC, 25% higher clock speeds) it would feel a little laggy with big cores disabled.
Its better to undervolt only the higher frequencies and leave alone/reduce only a little the lower ones as they are much closer to the threshold voltage and more likely to cause a forced reboot if undervolted too much.
@amn1987 Thanks for bumping this thread dude, i really needed to improve my SOT. Hopefully this will help.
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@amn1987 Thanks for bumping this thread dude, i really needed to improve my SOT. Hopefully this will help.
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Bear in mind the performance degradation can be quite noticeable. Instead of completely disabling the big cores maybe experiment with clocking them lower at 1-1.2GHz where they are most efficient in terms of perf./W IIRC. At these low clocks they will still completely outperform the little cores due to nearly 80% higher performance per clock.
SHADOW Kernel by @energyspear17
Already have QUAD core and battery mode.
You can also UV while flashing
Which would result in better battery backup.
Anyways different peoples different choices.
Good works?
Looks like some POCO F2 Pro got thermal throttling.
It need to look like this: https://www.chinamobilemag.de/test/poco-f2-pro.html#hardware-performance (last picture - 15 min. test)
On some reviews I saw throttling after 7-8 min. so maybe you check your device and in case of throttling you replace your F2 Pro.
Summer but not too hot starting of with not cold but slightly warm phone.
Under all core synthetic load lower tier cores started throttling at 14min and the highest clock core still at full capacity.
Honestly anything over 5min mark on synthetic load is impressive without active cooling.
I don't see many things that would utilize so many threads with continuous load. I wonder if adding GPU load to the mix wouldn't have changed things. Then again it's not a gearvr kind of a thing with 60hz fullhd + screen do I wouldn't expect it to throttle under real world load.
And I must say both during use and fast charging poco f2 pro feels less hot than 9t pro did. Charges longer at high current before temp rises enough to slow down charging.