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[Q] Stock or Not to Stock

I have unlocked my bootloader, rooted with Magisk and flashed AsopExtended Rom. Very happy with the performance of my A2017U as it is right now. My question to ya'll is, What would be the pros and cons of returning to complete stock (for OTA updates) or sticking with rooted and custom rom and not being able to receive OTA updates?

whats the question here? Its on you... what you prefer

Lol that depends of your needs - I stick to stock because of audio (mostly) and somehow bcz of camera (as far as I know you can install stock camera app).
That's question is a little bit irrevelant when you was stock and now you are testing custom rom.
So the answer is simply - replay to your question by yourself and with margin to your needs.

Had to test the waters with custom roms on this phone, but was just wanting to hear other peoples thoughts on the subject. I've always tinkered with customizing my phones and enjoy doing so. Would like to hear different points of view and then see if it would make me change my mind. Sometimes custom roms have little bugs that people can or can't live with, and in some cases stock is best for total functionality. Just curious of others opinions.....

amaury48 said:
Had to test the waters with custom roms on this phone, but was just wanting to hear other peoples thoughts on the subject. I've always tinkered with customizing my phones and enjoy doing so. Would like to hear different points of view and then see if it would make me change my mind. Sometimes custom roms have little bugs that people can or can't live with, and in some cases stock is best for total functionality. Just curious of others opinions.....
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IMHO custom ROMs are littered with bugs, but mostly overlookable. Take the phone bug or storage with SD card bug for example.
Stock works better in every regard (except substratum, damn you mifavor) and with MiFavor 5 this is even truer. But if you like your current ROM there's no reason to go back...

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IMHO custom ROMs are littered with bugs, but mostly overlookable. Take the phone bug or storage with SD card bug for example.
Stock works better in every regard (except substratum, damn you mifavor) and with MiFavor 5 this is even truer. But if you like your current ROM there's no reason to go back...
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Yeah, I finally went back to stock B25 via the DrakenFx method to retain root and custom recovery. I came across the phone bug on my custom rom and that helped me make my decision to go back to a stock rom.....

Yep, used custom ROMs from the first week of owning the phone until about a month ago when I went back to B25 with Magisk. Couldn't be happier.

I was about to make a similar thread myself but saw this one. I have been running custom roms since day one but have been considering returning to stock.
A brief summary of the benefits:
Reasons to go with stock:
Fully functional ZTE camera app with no bugs - This is perhaps more important than you might think, ZTE haven't enabled the Camera 2 API which means its very possible we are going to get the best quality and feature-set by sticking with the stock app. If ZTE haven't released their blobs there could very well be reasons to stick with the default camera app...not only that but I like it. You can install the mod, but there are aspects that will never work and some roms and kernels play more nicely with the mod than others.
Dolby Atmos app. Similar to the camera on stock this would just mean less messing about, you can of course get atmos mods in magisk but whether they work as well as the stock ZTE app I am not sure. The strange thing is I have never had the stock ZTE Axon atmos magisk mod to work on a custom rom, even though I have an Axon!
Reliability, no need to worry about force closes or apps not working, everything pretty much just works. So much less stress if you use your phone as a daily driver.
Ease of use, less features makes the phone easier to use. In some cases even when you are a tinkerer like me its sometimes good to be able to forget about continuously tweaking stuff and digging yourself in to a never ending upgrade cycle.
Oreo, it looks like if you stay stock we will see Oreo sooner than custom roms.
Reasons to go custom:
Substratum, oh boy would I miss this going back to stock. The ZTE theme engine is pants compared and I love the work that goes in to my current premium theme.
Battery life, perhaps with the aid of also a custom kernel there are some very nice roms and kernels being worked on which allow you to fully customise and save battery life.
Features, you can set the phone up exactly as you want too, every small detail can be customised. You can choose exactly which rom you like based on the features you use.
Performance, you can get more performance out of a custom rom with custom kernel and find a nicer balance between battery and performance, whichever suits you.
Fun, its fun to flash different roms and get the flashing bug. You learn a lot and get to join in with a fantastic community where people help each other.
Third option, run a debloated custom rom.
Seems to be more and more popular, as an ex Nexus 5 user I loved Cataclysm rom for this very reason. You keep all the features associated with stock with added performance benefits, fixes and less bloat. There is a downside if you plan on keeping atmos as some stock roms seem to strip it away, but it is a nice compromise between the options above. Usually these roms are more reliable as they are based on stock too. If you want a lean rom that just works, this may suit you!
Its such a hard choice and one I still havent decided on, if I have missed anything please let me know!
Background info and summary:
My first smartphone was a ZTE blade 2 and it was a beast for the money, this phone is tremendous too. My GF owns a pixel and apart from the camera this phone trumps it for value no question...for less than half the price.
I have to say though, I do miss the days of my Nexus 5 and the larger mod community, I realise these days have gone now with google devices but perhaps next time I will opt to go to Oneplus just so I can trust a bit more that there will be less caveats going custom as if there is one complaint I have with ZTE it is their unwillingness to release their source code for the little tiny things like the camera api and atmos.

Dodgexander said:
I was about to make a similar thread myself but saw this one. I have been running custom roms since day one but have been considering returning to stock.
A brief summary of the benefits:
Reasons to go with stock:
Fully functional ZTE camera app with no bugs - This is perhaps more important than you might think, ZTE haven't enabled the Camera 2 API which means its very possible we are going to get the best quality and feature-set by sticking with the stock app. If ZTE haven't released their blobs there could very well be reasons to stick with the default camera app...not only that but I like it. You can install the mod, but there are aspects that will never work and some roms and kernels play more nicely with the mod than others.
Dolby Atmos app. Similar to the camera on stock this would just mean less messing about, you can of course get atmos mods in magisk but whether they work as well as the stock ZTE app I am not sure. The strange thing is I have never had the stock ZTE Axon atmos magisk mod to work on a custom rom, even though I have an Axon!
Reliability, no need to worry about force closes or apps not working, everything pretty much just works. So much less stress if you use your phone as a daily driver.
Ease of use, less features makes the phone easier to use. In some cases even when you are a tinkerer like me its sometimes good to be able to forget about continuously tweaking stuff and digging yourself in to a never ending upgrade cycle.
Oreo, it looks like if you stay stock we will see Oreo sooner than custom roms.
Reasons to go custom:
Substratum, oh boy would I miss this going back to stock. The ZTE theme engine is pants compared and I love the work that goes in to my current premium theme.
Battery life, perhaps with the aid of also a custom kernel there are some very nice roms and kernels being worked on which allow you to fully customise and save battery life.
Features, you can set the phone up exactly as you want too, every small detail can be customised. You can choose exactly which rom you like based on the features you use.
Performance, you can get more performance out of a custom rom with custom kernel and find a nicer balance between battery and performance, whichever suits you.
Fun, its fun to flash different roms and get the flashing bug. You learn a lot and get to join in with a fantastic community where people help each other.
Third option, run a debloated custom rom.
Seems to be more and more popular, as an ex Nexus 5 user I loved Cataclysm rom for this very reason. You keep all the features associated with stock with added performance benefits, fixes and less bloat. There is a downside if you plan on keeping atmos as some stock roms seem to strip it away, but it is a nice compromise between the options above. Usually these roms are more reliable as they are based on stock too. If you want a lean rom that just works, this may suit you!
Its such a hard choice and one I still havent decided on, if I have missed anything please let me know!
Background info and summary:
My first smartphone was a ZTE blade 2 and it was a beast for the money, this phone is tremendous too. My GF owns a pixel and apart from the camera this phone trumps it for value no question...for less than half the price.
I have to say though, I do miss the days of my Nexus 5 and the larger mod community, I realise these days have gone now with google devices but perhaps next time I will opt to go to Oneplus just so I can trust a bit more that there will be less caveats going custom as if there is one complaint I have with ZTE it is their unwillingness to release their source code for the little tiny things like the camera api and atmos.
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Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?

Choose an username... said:
Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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Thanks I will give ADM a try first since RDX seems to exclusively for the A2017 and I own the A2017U.
Frankly when I saw substratum without OMS support before I wasn't impressed but it sounds like it's worth a look.
Performance wise I loved running AOKP. It runs so much faster than resurrection remix and faster than my brief time on stock also.
It's a pain sacrifices have to made somewhere, but I guess you can't argue for the money!

Dodgexander said:
Thanks I will give ADM a try first since RDX seems to exclusively for the A2017 and I own the A2017U.
Frankly when I saw substratum without OMS support before I wasn't impressed but it sounds like it's worth a look.
Performance wise I loved running AOKP. It runs so much faster than resurrection remix and faster than my brief time on stock also.
It's a pain sacrifices have to made somewhere, but I guess you can't argue for the money!
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I think you simply have to flash the univ bootstack and your modem file to install RDX, it just wasn't tested on other phones but the A2017. but yeah, just use ADM Team

If we don't get Oreo, I will root mine, debloat etc and unroot just to keep it stock but lean. Stock camera in Nougat is quite good IMO. Atmos is pants but I will leave it alone.

RobboW said:
If we don't get Oreo, I will root mine, debloat etc and unroot just to keep it stock but lean. Stock camera in Nougat is quite good IMO. Atmos is pants but I will leave it alone.
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what's the downside of having it rooted?

Some apps don't work and it has to be secure for work use.

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Some apps don't work and it has to be secure for work use.
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Magisk then...

Choose an username... said:
Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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Just installed adm rom and substratum but can't get any themes to work at all. Substratum appears to work and let's me install them but after a reboot they don't work.
I tested with the Google app, gmail and chrome amongst others. I am using swift black.
I guess it's just a bug with the adm Rom? Magisk is working fine I think.

Dodgexander said:
Just installed adm rom and substratum but can't get any themes to work at all. Substratum appears to work and let's me install them but after a reboot they don't work.
I tested with the Google app, gmail and chrome amongst others. I am using swift black.
I guess it's just a bug with the adm Rom? Magisk is working fine I think.
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It can't be because I had everything themed on ADM ROM too. Except system ui and that stuff since it can't be themed. no idea why that happens.

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It can't be because I had everything themed on ADM ROM too. Except system ui and that stuff since it can't be themed. no idea why that happens.
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Were you using the new release with version 5 of mifavor?
What about systemless host list in magisk enabled to get adaway to work?
Only two things I have changed. I am using A2017U with the b13 bootstack.
Haven't changed anything else so no idea why it isn't working.

Dodgexander said:
Were you using the new release with version 5 of mifavor?
What about systemless host list in magisk enabled to get adaway to work?
Only two things I have changed. I am using A2017U with the b13 bootstack.
Haven't changed anything else so no idea why it isn't working.
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i was using the old release with version 5 (ADM Team V3)

I would stick with stock unless you are an extreme power user. ZTE fixed 99% of the issues with MiFavor with 7.1.1 and custom ROMs are littered with SO MANY little bugs. MiFavor is extremely stable now. Audio and camera is also much worse on custom.
But hey whatever you prefer.

[Discussion] Zuk Z2 Plus - most stable / least buggy ROM for regular use

Fellow Z2 Plus users,
We have always seen discussion about best rom..with features x,y,z etc etc. Now when one says best, which is quite subjective depending upon user, mostly focus is around all the features/customizations of the world and not to mention best battery, best performance and what not.
Here I am flipping the question and seek feedback & suggestions from fellow Zuk Z2 users on the ROMs which they find :
1) Least buggy - given some bugs will be always there
2) Stable - suitable for daily use with no surprises
3) Battery Optimized for performance but with priority being battery
4) Suitable for Daily Regular Use - wallets, bank apps, sync, 4G / wifi, good photos
So while the suggested ROM might not have few missing features (like ViLTE) and might have only limited customizations, but it remains overall robust and stable enough to be used regularly for next few months.
I agree that regular updates are good to have but then with development moving to P soon, the current build of suggested ROM should be such that without updates it should work fine
Request if fellow users can suggest their preferred ROM(s) on above criteria with at least minimum details of ROM like name, version and the build.
If further details can be provided like what is missing (say ViLTE etc) it will be wonderful for others! Thanks in advance to all for their feedback.
Sorry if this is a repeat but think at this juncture when the transition is about to happen to Android P we should have a list of stable roms handy.
EDIT 16th July 2020 :
It is close to 2 years since thread was started and discussions are still ON thanks to loyal users. Also if I may say, part credit also goes to phone's good build quality that it is still worth using for many
When this thread was started, we were in initial days of developers transitioning from Oreo to Pie ROM and today, we already have loads of Q ROMs.
Having said that, general preference, if we need a stable balanced ROM is to continue on Pie ROMs versus Q ROMs - no surprises here !!

vuckovic_stefan said:
-Change it under Settings > Network & Internet > Private DNS
Adguard DNS:
dns.adguard.com
I had to use Activity launcher app for that meny because its hidden on miui 11 lol. If u also need that app, type in search network then find under settings - MORE. There u will find option.
Im glad u r happy with your device mate... I was considering Realme 6 Pro but I didnt like that 2 cameras in left corner. I like to see notifications there . So i decided to go with Xiaomi
Also here, it is the same, miui is heavy but apps stay in memory mostly, 6 gb LPDDR4X RAM, 64 GB UFS Storage 2.1. I couldnt find 128 GB model but i dont need it anyway, I would have buy it just because small difference in price. Cameras are real upgrade over Zuk, I also installed Gcam. Amoled is nice also.
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Thank you for the work around.. I tried the non root method in adaway but wasnt that good.. changing DNS works much better.. I even updated this in my router..
I also don't like hole punch.. water drop notch is ok..
Hope all cameras are able to use GCam..
Your trick for miui worked as well.. Thank you again for that.
Stay safe and keep modding

Feedbacks Summarized
Thanks to all for sharing feedbacks/experiences. I am summarizing below, with focus on Oreo ROMs!.
EDIT 16th July 2020 : in last 2 years, we have also seen good development in terms of Pie & Q ROMs. So now we have some recommendations on stable and good for daily use Pie ROMs too
OREO ROMs (update basis discussions till Nov'18)
Resurrection Remix RR 6.2.1 Oreo is considered good by most - received feedbacks from @seking @Thisisaarush @Z750z @NaXal
One open issue: No auto call record
It has loads of Customizations, the final build released updated with Oct'18 security patches.
MIUI 10 ROM seems to be a good choice too as per feedback from @sivaramareddy @sidS6
It is stable and has good battery life
AEX 5.7 Oreo seems quite good as per feedback from @Vishwanath01 @sivaramareddy @suvankar.smart
They have not shared much details but what I see is that v5.7 is recommended by all even when the latest is v5.8. This ROM not updated after Aug'18
Download from versions availablehere
Jaguar Oreo is recommended as per feedback from @sanjay.2704 @seking @mGforCe
There seems to be battery issue/lag after couple of weeks of use. But with the entirely rebased ROM released, there are lot of hopes. Finally VoLTE working too - was broken since June build.
Hopefully the battery issue is resolved after few builds of the Rebase ROM. Having said that - this ROM is worth watching for!! The best thing is that dev is updating atleast once a month. With issues being reported, he updated within few weeks too!!
Pls note that have considered only those comments which had some level of details. Also there were more recommendations but since supported by only 1 user not included in the summary.
PIE ROMs (update basis discussions till Jun'20)
[Official - k4.4 // Beta - k4.9] AOSiP Pie is considered good by many and am @mGforCe using for last few months.
One open issue: Think Miracast doesn't work. The final build released has Sep'19 security patches. Link here
[ROM][9.0][TREBLE] SuperiorOS is also recommended one and we have @vuckovic_stefan using in on and off (when not trying other ROMs )
The final official build released has Oct'19 security patches. Link here
There is also an unofficial build released with Apr'20 security patches. Link here, credits @vuckovic_stefan

Bootleggers and Cardinal lastest. I have no idea about Volte because we don't have it here.

AOSP Extended 5.7 latest

Aosip rom is a clear winner, It's the best in every sector.. !

For me, as of now... Latest AEX 5.7 seems pretty stable and Recently I have tried one ROM that totally amazed me.... MIUI 10 ROM. It's very stable, considerably less heat with great performance and great battery life (6.5 -7 hrs SOT with Normal to Medium usage which include Browsing, Streaming, Instant Messaging etc). Coming to Gaming especially PUBG is a lot less laggy when compared to other ROM's when played with HD settings.
So, apart from the latest AOSP Extended(AEX) 5.7, I would recommend to try the latest MIUI 10 ROM too...

Thanks for sharing feedback
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Bootleggers and Cardinal lastest. I have no idea about Volte because we don't have it here.
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Thanks for sharing feedback. So you mean below ROMs:
BootleggersROM 2.3 (8.1.0) dated 08-07-18
Cardinal-AOSP 5.7 (8.1.0) dated 14-07-18
Any issues/bug noted at all? This will help in collating feedback with known issues etc.
Vishwanath01 said:
AOSP Extended 5.7 latest
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Thanks for sharing feedback. Regarding AEX 5.7 (8.1.0) have you noted any bugs at all? Or everything working well.
sivaramareddy said:
For me, as of now... Latest AEX 5.7 seems pretty stable and Recently I have tried one ROM that totally amazed me.... MIUI 10 ROM. It's very stable, considerably less heat with great performance and great battery life (6.5 -7 hrs SOT with Normal to Medium usage which include Browsing, Streaming, Instant Messaging etc). Coming to Gaming especially PUBG is a lot less laggy when compared to other ROM's when played with HD settings.
So, apart from the latest AOSP Extended(AEX) 5.7, I would recommend to try the latest MIUI 10 ROM too...
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Thanks for sharing feedback. AEX 5.7 (8.1.0) noted. As discussed, any known issue here as per your experience?
MIUI 10 ROM - hmm, interesting. For my own Redmi Note 3 always moved out from MIUI to AOSP / LOS roms . Will be interesting to try. Again, for completeness, any issues/bugs noted/known here?
Between MIUI / AEX which will be one you choose?
himanshu.devsah said:
Aosip rom is a clear winner, It's the best in every sector.. !
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Thanks for sharing feedback. So you mean Android Open Source Illusion Project (8.1.0) - AOSIP right?
Any bugs/issues noted here? Or all perfectly working. It will be helpful to note of even 1-2 small issues to have right feedback.

Bump, request users to pls give feedback

Miui 10 by narshi shukla.. best overall in terms of stability and battery life

sidS6 said:
Miui 10 by narshi shukla.. best overall in terms of stability and battery life
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MIUI 10 ROM - hmm, interesting. For my Redmi Note 3 always moved out from MIUI to AOSP / LOS roms
Again, for completeness, any known issues/bugs with MIUI?

Reserruction Remix ,,,==> the best and most stable from all other roms ,,,???
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Reserruction Remix os, the best and most stable rom from all,,,,???

Having a blast with #oxicOs since Viper and dot died
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Hello,
Most of the ROMs here are pretty stable as daily driver. Some are little better with some aspect of usage, like for example, in general, non treble ROMs better with heavy games like PubG compare to Treble. Now that doesn't mean treble ROMs suck with PubG, its just marginally lower grfx details for smoother playing exp.
Ever since introduction of treble, for last few months, I have been only with treble, so I can only comment on Treble ROMs. I have tried PE, AEX, AiCP, RR (Treble), crDroid and let me tell you all are equally good. However, having said that, few lose their edge time to time with some random update and it happens with all. So as an user, you will find your self switching between few time to time.
All these ROMs easily offer 6 hours 30 mins or more SoT for daily use (except heavy gaming). Game on them and SoT will come down based on how hard you are playing. Usually for heavy gamer, SoT is around 4 hours or bit less. All these ROMs have everything function, from finger print to Bluetooth.
At present, I am with RR 6.1. Switched from AiCP since at this point, for few previously weekly, AiCP is having some performance issue. Not that its slow, but RR feels little better compare to AiCP. Who knows, may be with next weekly, AiCP may out perform anything else.
Biggest point is, thanks to all these hardworking devs, I am spoiled with choices. So many of them. All are equally good but with some many options, I am spoiled to write comparison even for these slightest issues.
So its really hard or would be unfair to name single ROM to sum up the answer !!
Thanks.

Z750z said:
Reserruction Remix ,,,==> the best and most stable from all other roms ,,,
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Thanks, any specific version which is most stable?
imarco.box said:
Having a blast with #oxicOs since Viper and dot died
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Thanks, any specific version which is stable?
@NaXal appreciate you taking out time to write a detailed reply.
NaXal said:
At present, I am with RR 6.1. Switched from AiCP since at this point, for few previously weekly, AiCP is having some performance issue. Not that its slow, but RR feels little better compare to AiCP. Who knows, may be with next weekly, AiCP may out perform anything else.
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Which build of RR? Can you elaborate what specific improvements do you see?
NaXal said:
Biggest point is, thanks to all these hardworking devs, I am spoiled with choices. So many of them. All are equally good but with some many options, I am spoiled to write comparison even for these slightest issues.
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Indeed, very true :good:

mGforCe said:
Which build of RR? Can you elaborate what specific improvements do you see?
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Consider me a typical dumbass phone user. I strive for a functional device which allows me fast performance and all features should work fine. I don't like poking with things unless they are broken as like your question, I am looking for stability and I am willing to sacrifice bit of performance edge for that.
Now regarding improvement, what to compare with is the biggest question. If you want to compare this with Stock Indian ZUI 2.5 (Indian), its a heaven and hell of a difference !! But if you talk about other contemporary ROMs, there isn't much to separate them. It would come down to your personal choice of flavor .
Consider this buying a litter class super bike or super car in India. Anything you buy would be light years ahead of what average Joe is riding but when you want to chose between similar option, it would ultimately come down to personal preference !!
Regarding my setup, I am with the latest Version of RR 6.1 Treble (without any extra mod or kernel) + Open GApps Nano. Running Apex Launcher v3.3.3 along with Pixel Icon Pack (from Play Store). I have mentioned my issues or liking in that respective thread !!
Thanks.

Latest toxycOs.... 3.0
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I am using Liquid Remix [8.1] [v9.1.4] [OFFICIAL] [08/10/2018][NON-TREBLE]
I listen to music and after installing viperfx magix module and modded you tube my requirement is met. Along with this I also use on application called "The Raging Beast KA" , see screenshot, which allows kernel level tweaking of sound ie increasing sound of left channel and right channel separately and it gives excellent sound. I also require volte as I use jio sim and net speed should be fast.
So the above are my requirements and everybody has their own requirements. All ROMs stable. But they differ on the following
1 heat. Some ROMs heat up
2 performance.
3 tweaks. Some ROMs contain more tweaks
4 volte. Some ROMs will not have volte
Installing ROMs are individual preferences and all ROMs are stable.
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Latest View ?
Guys,
Thanks for the feedback earlier. Bumping old thread to see if any update / revision in choices basis past 2-3 months?
Now that we have more or less final version of Oreo (though fortunately, some O ROMs are still getting security updates), the options are not likely to change further.
So far, have been using Jaguar Aug'18 build - worked quite well but in last few weeks seeing 10-12% battery drain overnight. Today am going to flash Oct'18 build to see if any changes.

CrDroiD is Best
i have used all oreo except RR..
I find CrDroid the best Rom of all times.
no issues at all.. be it SOT.. consistent 7-7.5 hours with moderate usage.. BT music play for 2-3 hours daily, phone calls for hour or so 1 hour of game play A8 & tekken.. all banking apps running including Tez..
Tons of customization. Built in adaway as well .. i dont think any feature is missing in this Rom. except 2.
1. Pocket detection - causes many failed FP.
2. auto call record - call record is present but u have to enable it in each call.
if some one with rom build knowledge can include this and update security patches then this would be a complete rom.
planning to try RR as dotos is giving very low SOT.. staying on that coz it has auto call record and pocket detect.

sanjay.2704 said:
i have used all oreo except RR..
I find CrDroid the best Rom of all times.
no issues at all.. be it SOT.. consistent 7-7.5 hours with moderate usage.. BT music play for 2-3 hours daily, phone calls for hour or so 1 hour of game play A8 & tekken.. all banking apps running including Tez..
Tons of customization. Built in adaway as well .. i dont think any feature is missing in this Rom. except 2.
1. Pocket detection - causes many failed FP.
2. auto call record - call record is present but u have to enable it in each call.
if some one with rom build knowledge can include this and update security patches then this would be a complete rom.
planning to try RR as dotos is giving very low SOT.. staying on that coz it has auto call record and pocket detect.
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Which version?

Difference between xiaomi.global and EU ? What other working OS is recommended ?

Hi,
I just go my 9T this morning and it's already a struggle to get it the way I want with the apps I want.
Can't restore from my google backup and I don't see the phone on play.google.com to install manually but quickly all the apps.
I really don't like at all MIUI (even with another launcher) so I'm looking into changing the OS since Xiaomi is nice enough to let us do it.
I live in Switzerland (EU) but the phone has a global version, what the difference ? If I switch to EU would I get a better experience ?
I had mostly google phone (nexus, pixel, pixel 2) and one LG (4g) what ROM would you recommend me ? Is there a ROM that is stable and has fingerprint/bluetooth/camera working too ?
Also how do I know if I added my device for unlock ? I don't see anything showing to me that I did, no timer, nothing.
Thanks for the help,
rXp

For now every ROM like Pixel exp, paranoid, lineage etc are not official and not yet fully developed.
But changing to Xiaomi.eu rom could give you a better experience, but that's different from user to user. You can check the forum topics and read them through.

Definitely you'll have smaller battery life (8h instead of 10). I'm currently on 3-4h SOT but it's caused by terrible deep sleep optimization on all Xiaomi roms. (i mean, roms tha't were developed by xiaomi team). I wouldn't be surpriced if AOSP has better battery life than xiaomi one.

So, if you change from global to EU ROM which is developed by a fan community you should see some improvements in battery life and/or performance all around? I mean, it cant be any "worse" (depending who you ask) from global ROM.

[Discussion] my experience with custom roms in 2 years with this device

I am just telling my experience, all the Dev's are best, they are the ones who let me explore more in around android and it's versions.
I used custom roms on k5 plus 3gb for 2 years i think.
It was like first few months i used the original rom and then i voided the warranty with custom roms as i saw more possibility and newer versions of android coming better than what i had. I kept exploring every part of the phone, and whatever softwares i could use and get more from this phone. Few roms lasted around 4-5 months. I love the nougat roms still, there is a Android Q rom already here, amazing. It was a good experience, until this last few months i started to have battery drain faster when i would use the hotspot feature or use bluetooth for headsets, and gps was like the most battery drainer. I kept changing roms and seeing what would give more bettery life while using, the sleep/screenoff state uses like no energy and then opposite happen if i use in full brightness outside and gps
Then
today i just tried to see the stock rom backup is working or not, it did, and now i realise that the most stable rom is the stock rom that comes from lenovo. The battery life is just way better than any other roms (+1hour than what you get in current Oreo and pie roms), the performance is back, Dolby Atmos is back and works, the inbuilt vr works.
The apps which were quite heavy lagged in animations in custom roms, stock does it smoothly, and i didn't need to get a small gapps package for performance this time, stock has like most gapps i think and it's smooth.
New stuff like play protect, assistant, well-being, etc are now available for this old lollipop rom as well, most of the features in the future versions are now available to use with simple downloads and a few majisk modules, without harming performance.
i am not sure how secure the rom/os it self is with old security patches. But yeah original rom got to be top 5 in best rom/os available for this device in terms of overall usability in daily life.
Tell me what your experience has been, i will use the stock lenovo again now for sometime. And might get back to custom".:laugh::good:

Fax Max said:
I am just telling my experience, all the Dev's are best, they are the ones who let me explore more in around android and it's versions.
I used custom roms on k5 plus 3gb for 2 years i think.
It was like first few months i used the original rom and then i voided the warranty with custom roms as i saw more possibility and newer versions of android coming better than what i had. I kept exploring every part of the phone, and whatever softwares i could use and get more from this phone. Few roms lasted around 4-5 months. I love the nougat roms still, there is a Android Q rom already here, amazing. It was a good experience, until this last few months i started to have battery drain faster when i would use the hotspot feature or use bluetooth for headsets, and gps was like the most battery drainer. I kept changing roms and seeing what would give more bettery life while using, the sleep/screenoff state uses like no energy and then opposite happen if i use in full brightness outside and gps
Then
today i just tried to see the stock rom backup is working or not, it did, and now i realise that the most stable rom is the stock rom that comes from lenovo. The battery life is just way better than any other roms (+1hour than what you get in current Oreo and pie roms), the performance is back, Dolby Atmos is back and works, the inbuilt vr works.
The apps which were quite heavy lagged in animations in custom roms, stock does it smoothly, and i didn't need to get a small gapps package for performance this time, stock has like most gapps i think and it's smooth.
New stuff like play protect, assistant, well-being, etc are now available for this old lollipop rom as well, most of the features in the future versions are now available to use with simple downloads and a few majisk modules, without harming performance.
i am not sure how secure the rom/os it self is with old security patches. But yeah original rom got to be top 5 in best rom/os available for this device in terms of overall usability in daily life.
Tell me what your experience has been, i will use the stock lenovo again now for sometime. And might get back to custom".:laugh::good:
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just to add you could try the latest stock ROM our device got wich is MM, and tell us your experience. I'm on it since a lot of time, and I won't move from it anymore.
don't you know the link?
here it is:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OGx6L4kTsoH1e_RxIRA_S6shIEiRBqT9/view?usp=drivesdk
it's a TWRP backup made by a Brazilian user and posted here on xda long time ago.
related thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/k5...fficial-lenovo-andoid-6-t3596733/post72044687
quickly instructions?
here we go:
go to TWRP and restore only /boot and /system partitions. that's it.
You could share with us how did you feel it compared with LP.
PS: everything is working flawlessly for me. a6020l37 (sd616 2gb RAM single SIM)

Okay I will check this out, also you don't need to quote long messages

Lenovo stock ROM wasn't that bad but after installing Android 10 (AOSP) Custom ROM on my Vive K5 Plus, it's feels a relief.
Yes there are some minor issues & bugs but over all satisfactory experience.
Personally I will always stick with this ROM over Lenovo stock 5.1
Thanks.

Fax Max said:
Okay I will check this out, also you don't need to quote long messages
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and you don't need to say what I need/don't need.
Yes, I extended a bit, but not that much as you unnecessary long OP, just to say stock ROM is more battery saver than any custom ROM.
BTW learn that this kind of experiences sharing shouldn't be posted in the guides section.

walterfuster said:
BTW learn that this kind of experiences sharing shouldn't be posted in the guides section.
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..... It's not just guides section it's also news and discussion

NaXal said:
Lenovo stock ROM wasn't that bad but after installing Android 10 (AOSP) Custom ROM on my Vive K5 Plus, it's feels a relief.
Thanks.
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Yep aosp 10 feels good.... I will use it when it gets a bit more updates

AOSP 10 has got another build. I guess the last possible build since Dev may be moving out of Vibe K5 Plus platform.
I have just upgraded to the new build & it's stable enough.
Yes although performance can't be called butter smooth but it's better than previous build & most of the phone features that I may need in daily usage are working fine.
Standby time is good but SoT is on lower side, but I can't blame the ROM, it's my battery which is very old & worn out by now.
Thanks. :fingers-crossed:

The best rom with extended battery life was AOSP extended. i used it for 2 years with Dolby atmos mode and it worked flawlessly. Stock rom eats up battery too fast.

Smoothest ROM? (Redmi Note 7)

the official MIUI 11 I'm using now, and too many trash system apps running in background makes the game I'm playing keep choppy and frozen (or lag?).
the main purpose of this phone for me is playing multiplayer games, so compared to functionally powerful, Light and Smooth is more what I care.
which ROM (and version) is most suitable for this usage? Thanks.

Test MIUI eu 11 Android 10

joke19 said:
Test MIUI eu 11 Android 10
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thanks for your kind advice, but seems miui eu is based on china official builds? and miui official build 11.0.1 Android 10 is already withdrawed by official because of too many bugs (source: read on china xiaomi forum). also those negative feedbacks about 11.0.1 Android 10 on miui eu forum...still thanks.

Tested a ton of ROMs (mostly from xiaomi.eu) and I keep going back to MIUI 11.2, version 20.1.21 BETA. Works way better than the "stable" ones, is smooth as fk, crisp menus no lag etc.

I went from xiaomi.eu (a10/miui12) to "pixel plus ui" rom and I don't regret it. I've got more storage available, way better battery backup without the stupid miui battery manager which limits apps by default (10h SoT and 2 days without charge), UI is smooth and so far I haven't found any bugs.
Normally, I don't like to flash custom roms because in time i've learned that they all have their flaws. But coming from an androidOne phone, I just can't stand MIUI anymore. It got HUGE with tons of customizations/features I don't need nor want. Flashing a custom rom got me an extra 10gb+! of free storage. That's why I tested a couple of roms and I'm sticking with "pixel plus ui".

hejbabi said:
Tested a ton of ROMs (mostly from xiaomi.eu) and I keep going back to MIUI 11.2, version 20.1.21 BETA. Works way better than the "stable" ones, is smooth as fk, crisp menus no lag etc.
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You mean OFFICIAL MIUI 11.2, version 20.1.21 BETA? how did you deal with those trash system apks? some of which i heard cannot be removed or bootlooping happens. how did you deal with those ads?