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[ROM Reviews/GUIDE] A newbies guide to Nougat ROMs for the Z2 Plus

Alright, so after ROM-hopping for quite a bit over the past three months, I've got a fairly good idea about the various ROMs for our device, unofficial or otherwise. With Oreo coming out soon, and most Nougat ROMs getting their final builds, I thought this might be a good time to give my impressions. While old-timers might not get much use out of this, I'm hoping this will help out anyone that's recently bought a Z2, or is new to XDA.
INTRODUCTION
So, you got a Z2 and are looking to try a new custom ROM to get away from the horror show that is ZUI. Well, I've got good and bad news for ya.
The good- well, if you're a "normal" user that uses his phone to call, text, browse and game for a bit, most ROMs are gonna please you. Most of them are "stable" at this point, meaning you'll get very few crashes/random restarts unless you go full ham installing esoteric Xposed modules. But if you're new to XDA, you're probably unaware of Xposed anyway.
The bad- Most of them will also have some minor issues, and the only way to know if a ROM is perfect for you is to try it. Everyone has their own use cases/expectations from a ROM and thus will have a different experience than you.
My usage: I do not use Google Apps, except for Maps. Most of the apps I use are free/open source, except a few unavoidable one's like banking apps and WhatsApp. That being said, I've tried most(all?) of these ROMs with both Gapps and no Gapps to get a fair impression. Played a few games too, to test the phone in demanding situtations.
I have divided this guide into categories, roughly based on a users requirements. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Usually, if a ROM has insane performance, battery life tends to suffer. The key, as with all things in life, is finding the right balance. When a category has numerical ratings, I will be using a relative scale out of 10. A 10 does not mean that a ROM is perfect in an area, only that it was the best one that I came across.
With that lengthy, but neccessary introduction out of the way, here's the guide:
CATEGORY A: I want my phone to fly, battery life be damned!
I feel that 3 ROMs fit the bill here:
1. VIperOS by @jneto3000
2. Citrus CAF by @DD3Boh
3. Pure Fusion OS by @devabhi
While Viper has been the smoothest by a tiny margin, all these ROMs have amazing performance, and ran anything I threw at them without a hitch. I never had any UI lags while scrolling in apps. That being said, each does have a drawback. With Viper, I've always had a bit of a delay in the fingerprint scanner, PureFusion has been (slightly) unstable for me, and Citrus CAF hasn't recieved the latest KRACK patches, which makes it a no-go from a security POV.
Overall Ratings:
ROM RATING
Viper 10
Citrus CAF 9.5
PureFusion 9.5
Jaguar 9
LineageOS 8.8
crDroid 8.3
AquariOS 8
CarbonROM 7.8
NOTE: Just because I said, "Battery life be damned", doesn't mean all these ROMs have atrocious battery life. In fact, I got ~6.5 hrs SOT with Citrus CAF + Gapps, which is pretty good.
CATEGORY B: I want a good mix of performance, stability and battery life.
I'm guessing most of you belong to this category. Well you're in luck, because most ROMs for Z2 also belong to this category. You can have your pick amongst:
1. LineageOS by @varotone. Was personally my favorite ROM, extremely stable, lightning fast fingerprint, good performance (lagged a bit in games, but butter smooth for other apps) and good battery life. Unfortunately, it hasn't, and will probably never recieve patches for the KRACK vulnerability, so the more security conscious amongst you might want to avoid it. EDIT: Turns out, we did a get a new build, with the same great performance+battery life, but it does have a slow fingerprint unlock, when the phone has been asleep for a while.
2. Jaguar by @optimumpro. Similar to Lineage, it had frame drops with Games, but was rather smooth otherwise. I used this before Lineage, but my screen-on-time reduced drastically after a couple of weeks . On the flipside, many users have, and continue to report good battery life with it, so take my words with a grain of salt. r17 really improves the GPS performance.
3. crDroid by @Subhrajyoti Sen. Insane battery life. I got ~8.5 hrs of SOT (without Gapps) on my second charge cycle. Began to lag a bit so I switched to Viper, although the latest unofficial build has rectified the performance issues. Haven't tried it myself though.
4. AquariOS by @kenny3fcb. Nothing much to say, just a stable ROM with a good battery life. Hasn't been updated for quite sometime though, so no KRACK or Blueborne vulnerability patches.
CATEGORY C: I want security and longevity
Security conscious? Want frequent updates?
The answer, lads- is Jaguar by @optimumpro, and honestly- it's not even close. I think the only way to find the best ROM for yourself is to find a dev whose priorities/use cases align with yours. And if security is your priority- then @optimumpro is your man.
Damn, I sound like a sales guy.
On a serious note though, while I have little idea what Jaguar's security features like- "hardened bionic" do from a technical standpoint, I can tell you that it's usually the first ROM to incorporate security patches and tweaks, from Google or other sources. The dev takes out the time to respond to most queries, and he's said that the ROM will be maintained and updated till Oreo gets completely stabilized.
It has come to my attention that the dev apparently does not release the source code for Jaguar, so I can no longer recommend Jaguar as a privacy-focused ROM.
CATEGORY D: I want a great battery life
1. crDroid by @Subhrajyoti Sen. The last official build gave me the best overall battery life I've had yet.
2. CarbonROM by @ankit99. Pretty good idle consumption. My battery dropped just 1% overnight. Unfortunately not very stable, and hasn't been updated in a while.
Other noteworthy ROMs
1. AEX by @davidevinavil. While I personally didn't a have a great experience with v4.6 of this ROM, a lot of people have. And the dev has always been active, answering most queries. It's worth trying out the 22nd July build, which is pretty good, but doesn't have any recent security patches.
2.. AEX Unofficial by @Star_king12. While ROM has been discontinued, the dev was very helpful with user queries. Also, the 13th September build gave me some of the best battery life I've had on the Z2. I think he's working on a new ROM, so keep an eye out!
I haven't tried every ROM for the Z2, and I'm sure there are few good ones I've missed. Feel free to point to out any in the comments.
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I'm personally using the last ViperOS build for now, and will continue to do so, if the fingerprint issue doesn't bother me too much. If it does, I might give the latest PureFusion or (unofficial) crDroid builds a try. But by and large, I'm happy with Viper.
I hope this helps some of you.

Nice guide bro! Good work !

I think best nougat rom is viper os I have tried it.It has very good mixture of everything butterysmooth performance I have also played asphalt 8 in it and it doesn't lag

I also used to use Viper OS in My HTC senation XE.. that was the best rom. And full of feature..

what about resurrection remix ? can anyone suggest the best build of RR nougat released till yet?

abhay009 said:
I think best nougat rom is viper os I have tried it.It has very good mixture of everything butterysmooth performance I have also played asphalt 8 in it and it doesn't lag
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What about GPS? Is GPS working, i heard Viper OS has problems with it

vuckovic_stefan said:
What about GPS? Is GPS working, i heard Viper OS has problems with it
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I have no problem GPS is working fine and this have phenomenal battery life this is the best I ever used and it is very stable I think u should try to clean flash again

what about aex roms i think they are also good roms

Heating issue and battery are not that much good on aex roms

abhay009 said:
I have no problem GPS is working fine and this have phenomenal battery life this is the best I ever used and it is very stable I think u should try to clean flash again
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Thanks, tomorow i will get Zuk Z2, i will try first Indian MM and if im not satisfied i will go with Viper.
Nougat stock has some anoying bugs, late notifications, double notifications, wifi hotspot problem etc...

vuckovic_stefan said:
Thanks, tomorow i will get Zuk Z2, i will try first Indian MM and if im not satisfied i will go with Viper.
Nougat stock has some anoying bugs, late notifications, double notifications, wifi hotspot problem etc...
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To temper your expectations, I gotta tell you that some people, including me, do have a problem with the GPS on Viper. It does work, but only when you've locked on via WiFi/mobile data, otherwise it takes an eternity to lock on with GPS only. Also, Viper's fingerprint scanner takes a slightly long time to unlock if the phone's been asleep. But it's still a pretty great ROM.

@n'wah Mention the most bug free stable ROM please !
Best ROM in terms of SOT , performance and stability. I know you might read OP but I just need to know.
Cause some ROMs have been updated so

ashwath230 said:
@n'wah Mention the most bug free stable ROM please !
Best ROM in terms of SOT , performance and stability. I know you might read OP but I just need to know.
Cause some ROMs have been updated so
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I'd say go with the last LineageOS build. I would have never left that ROM if it had recieved KRACK patches.
If you NEED to have the security patch, then I'd say go with the last (official) crDroid build. I didn't find any noteworthy bugs while the phone was on, however there's a rather scary bug with offline charging- the display gets flipped and and the phone refuses to turn on unless you press the power button for a long time. Performance is slightly worse than Lineage though.
Viper is also a good choice if you can live with the slow fingerprint recognition time when the phone is asleep and the GPS issue mentioned above. It's what I'm currently using. Best performance, okay battery life.
Also, if you can wait a couple of days, @miju12 is gonna release a new ROM - DotOS. Maybe he's managed to iron out the bugs that are in other ROMs.
Hope this helps.

n'wah said:
I'd say go with the last LineageOS build. I would have never left that ROM if it had recieved KRACK patches.
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Why the Lineage ROM never became Official? Does it support VoLTE?
Is there a way to install KRACK patch manually over any ROM? I wan't to try Lineage as I am using it on Moto G and it is bug free on it. Also, I believe it does not have the latest camera blobs right? We have to flash it?

saurav_k said:
Why the Lineage ROM never became Official? Does it support VoLTE?
Is there a way to install KRACK patch manually over any ROM? I wan't to try Lineage as I am using it on Moto G and it is bug free on it. Also, I believe it does not have the latest camera blobs right? We have to flash it?
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IIRC to become official, the ROM should pass certain quality tests, be mostly bug-free, sensors should work properly etc. By the time the dev ironed out the bugs, he had to step away from development due to personal reasons. I don't think it has the latest camera blobs, volte should work though.
And it doesn't seem that you can flash a security patch manually, if you find out it is possible, please let us know! I feel a lot of users would return to Citrus CAF and Lineage if they had the security patches.

n'wah said:
IIRC to become official, the ROM should pass certain quality tests, be mostly bug-free, sensors should work properly etc. By the time the dev ironed out the bugs, he had to step away from development due to personal reasons. I don't think it has the latest camera blobs, volte should work though.
And it doesn't seem that you can flash a security patch manually, if you find out it is possible, please let us know! I feel a lot of users would return to Citrus CAF and Lineage if they had the security patches.
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And new ROMS come as official even before masses get to use them (see the DOT OS rom thread). Already official :laugh: no quality control.

vuckovic_stefan said:
Thanks, tomorow i will get Zuk Z2, i will try first Indian MM and if im not satisfied i will go with Viper.
Nougat stock has some anoying bugs, late notifications, double notifications, wifi hotspot problem etc...
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Did you get Your device. And did you get the Nougat update notification or something like that.

saurav_k said:
And new ROMS come as official even before masses get to use them (see the DOT OS rom thread). Already official :laugh: no quality control.
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If you wish to pay me, I will maintain quality control.

miju12 said:
If you wish to pay me, I will maintain quality control.
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Your reply makes no sense in the current context. n'wah replied that "to become official, the ROM should pass certain quality tests" and to which I said a new ROM which is not even used by anyone yet is already official. Where does the question of paying or not paying comes here? I think you took it in the wrong sense.
I am still not clear about how this Official status gets decided? Lineage, AOSGP-X are out for long time but Unofficial and here is a new ROM which had issues with the first build and it is already official !!
I like many other users appreciate your and other developer's work and I am also excited about the new ROM you are coming up with. The discussion here was about the Official / Unofficial status.

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Your reply makes no sense in the current context. n'wah replied that "to become official, the ROM should pass certain quality tests" and to which I said a new ROM which is not even used by anyone yet is already official. Where does the question of paying or not paying comes here? I think you took it in the wrong sense.
I am still not clear about how this Official status gets decided? Lineage, AOSGP-X are out for long time but Unofficial and here is a new ROM which had issues with the first build and it is already official !!
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Seriously do you think I have done a random build and publish it? Usually I test my builds myself before publishing but this time I was low on data and the previous build was working good so I didn't test and published which was my mistake and I agree for it. I can't speak for other Roms.

Oreo on RedmiNote3 - why back to Nougat!?

I used Oreo-ROMs now for a few weeks - everyone I tested for at least three days or more. But EVERY Oreo-ROM doesn't work for me like Nougat did before. Latest Oreo-ROM I used was LOS15.1 Nightlies. Battery was ok but 2-3 less SOT then N...GPS was ok...but so many bugs everywhere. Launcher often didnt let me into menue by longpress on screen, Quickpic wasn't running well, Mixplorer didn't let me cut'n'paste from internal memory to sdcard, contacts are gone a few times, SElinux is unsafe... and so on. It feels Nougat wasn't buggy at early state as Oreo is today. So many buggy Oreo-ROMs and Nougat lives in forgotten background..why?!?
Today I'am back to latest LOS14.1 and what should I say - perfect, smooth, all apps running like they should!

when android 7 apper, android 6 is best. wait to fix

as like nogut this is gonna take a while . remember how long it took for nogut to get fp & camera fc fixed.

Probably Oreo will never be as stable as Nougat.

I'm on LokManSiu's LOS 15.1 + Agni Kernel + Magisk since 3 weeks.
I found only two bugs : bluetooth calls and SDcard with exfat are KO.
My SOT is 30min better than with Nougat. Play Store is certified and SafetyNet is OK. No FC. No problem with apps.

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Probably Oreo will never be as stable as Nougat.
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Maybe :silly:

Several of bugs that you mentioned are los bugs. It actually frustrated me that lineage 15.1 is full of bugs and way too behind compared to others. P previews are already started and yet they are still dealing with the nonsense bugs which has already been solved in other roms.
I miss CM even more now.

scrubjay55 said:
Several of bugs that you mentioned are los bugs. It actually frustrated me that lineage 15.1 is full of bugs and way too behind compared to others. P previews are already started and yet they are still dealing with the nonsense bugs which has already been solved in other roms.
I miss CM even more now.
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We all miss Good Old Cm.

preyan said:
We all miss Good Old Cm.
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Why? LOS14.1 works perfect on my Kate. Battery is very good, all sensors are working, all features are working, speed is good...no showstoppers like BT-call in Oreo at all.

Lecterr said:
Why? LOS14.1 works perfect on my Kate. Battery is very good, all sensors are working, all features are working, speed is good...no showstoppers like BT-call in Oreo at all.
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Nostalgia is a weird thing my friend. CM has served us all for many years. Few years back CM was all we had to work with. Even though LOS replaced CM, it still lives in our hearts... and in many of our old devices too.
#Old&OutdatedStillGold

Yeah ,soon android p is going to launch and the devs will work to get a p based custom ROM

All oreo roms still use Nougat or older blobs and just overriding, so need to use a lot of shims and cause more bugs, most of bugs fixed already but still have completablity issue, so why oreo is not stable as Nougat

Marvin424242 said:
I'm on LokManSiu's LOS 15.1 + Agni Kernel + Magisk since 3 weeks.
I found only two bugs : bluetooth calls and SDcard with exfat are KO.
My SOT is 30min better than with Nougat. Play Store is certified and SafetyNet is OK. No FC. No problem with apps.
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I've been using LokManSiu'e LOS 15.1+ his kernel + magisk since 2 months or more i guess. Bluetooth calls and random reboots sometimes are the only bug i found works perfectly other than that.

This thred is about orea or nougat bt let me highlight another point.. Stock or miui.... I've been using stock for past 1 year.. I rooted my RN3 jus a month after i got it... I ws on RR nougat earlier then NOS oreo, AOSIP and many other ones on oreo.. To be frank after all those additional features i found stock roms to lack the basic functions.. Call quality dropped.. Proximity sensor was unstable so accidentally muted calls.. Gps fix took time.. Battery drained faster..cudnt reject calls from my smart watch.. After all this i thought about trying one of the ported miui 9 roms.. Trust me im much more happier.. I need my fone to be reliable evn if its less in features.

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This thred is about orea or nougat bt let me highlight another point.. Stock or miui.... I've been using stock for past 1 year.. I rooted my RN3 jus a month after i got it... I ws on RR nougat earlier then NOS oreo, AOSIP and many other ones on oreo.. To be frank after all those additional features i found stock roms to lack the basic functions.. Call quality dropped.. Proximity sensor was unstable so accidentally muted calls.. Gps fix took time.. Battery drained faster..cudnt reject calls from my smart watch.. After all this i thought about trying one of the ported miui 9 roms.. Trust me im much more happier.. I need my fone to be reliable evn if its less in features.
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Dnt ryt like... ths..

BlueJeans said:
Dnt ryt like... ths..
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What?

I tried to go back to MIUI (Epic on 7) and then MM Stock but I already miss too many features in Nougat, particularly PiP with vanced, then Gcam on MM, and I quite like the new pixel launcher. + split screen works well on AEX (with most apps) even if there is a huge battery loss I'd rather charge my phone more given my usage.

I'm using Oreo for months on my Kate. RR+Agni kernel, Magisk, Dolby does the job and with the right setup its rock stable, I have basically no problems at all.
LOS 15 has no official support for RM3 that's why it's so buggy. You should give others a try before judge after some weeks of using one that wasn't the best on Nougat either.
Anyway: anyone uses built in launchers of any ROM if that isn't Nova?

We are left behind with MM blobs which supported very well for N roms and thats the reason we have pretty stable N roms. IMHO official LOS 14.1 is the best custom rom till date for me(not a fan of much customization)... Battery backup is amazing with stock kernel and with magisk modules it satisfies all my needs. The only choice we have now is to wait for mi max N sources as its the only device we have a common chipset. Also xiaomi has launched 2 more devices and developers are now moving to the new devices we would expect a very less support soon for us. Stay strong brothers. If we had 625 chipset, we would have got stable awesome oreo builds by this time. Lucky rn4 nd mi A1 device users, they will surely have support till Android P...

It's good to know that someone has brought this up. Everyone is running for the latest and the greatest but forgetting the things we're leaving behind with Nougat. I've been on RR, AEX, NOS but it was all unreliable after a point. I decided to give LOS a try and there it was. Less features but good enough to keep me here. I miss ViperOS though. It was rock stable and with tons of features. The only thing I miss on LOS is Substratum support. All my themes that I bought has gone waste lol. Wish there was still support for Nougat based ROMs like LOS. Only if there was Substratum support...
Can anyone suggest me a few?

For you, what was the smoothest + most stable out of Android 7,8 and 9 roms for x722?

Hello all. I'm only concerned about finding a stable, fast and smooth rom (without major bugs) running android 7 or above for the x722, as it is my only device. Currently using Paranoid Android (PA, my very first custom rom installation) found here https://forum.xda-developers.com/le...aranoid-android-7-3-1-x722-elite-zl0-t3706478 and it is smooth as silk but battery consumption is too high when in standby and the rom has sadly been abandoned. Therefore looking for an alternative.
I'm simply afraid (based on what i read in threads) that the newer android 8 and android 9 roms may have lag after a few weeks and that the android 7 roms may have been discontinued with pending bugs (i read threads here and on zl0 rom threads in the larger pro 3 forum, based on their last post dates and unresolved questions for fellow x722 users) so i would be really really really grateful for any information/knowledge based on your experiences. Mention your Gcam version/name if you use it please, and what phone firmware you are on (mine came with 20s).
Just to sum up: I don't mind whether it is an android 7, 8 or 9 rom, i just want it to be stable, smooth, fast and free of major/crippling bugs (stable for everyday use). I don't want an eui based rom as eui does not have the 'reply within a notification feature' and grouped notifications found in vanilla android 7+. That feature allows me to view messages from multiple senders in whatsapp without opening the app and then reply to any of them which is super convenient! Also eui roms wouldn't support any Gcam as it is Android 6 based.
Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge and experiences
Ps: reason i initially came looking for a custom rom was because my vendor 20s rom was awful at ram management, was ugly, lacked the wonderful notification reply features seen in Android 7 and above. And finally started lagging when typing in my keyboard app (Gboard)! PA was a revelation in how smooth & fast this phone could be

WARNING: I have a X727 zl1, not a X722 Zl0, check out if your phone version its compatible
For me, the most stable rom are Oreo's Rom.
I am using right now DotOS 2.4. non major issues.
Magisk 18.1
Dolby completely functional
Good battery
Beautiful UI
Gcam work perfectly
Lot of setting
BT/Wifi/Signal 4G-LTE work fine
Like you, I seek for battery and stability and I've had tried almost any Rom out there, Nougat, Oreo, Pie and MIUI
Nougat fault: Mic and Audio Issues and almost any Rom. Just last Omni was good but had kernel issue, Randomly shutdown few times at day.
Oreo: Very good mostly. Bootleggers its almost perfect, but had Bluetooth issue (cut sound when screen goes off)
But its very good option. Best for me, cDroid, DotOs, Bootleggers. Don't flash custom kernel on DotOS, won't boot and you must to flash Rom over.
Pie: I had a lot issue on Pie. Battery Drain mostly. Some Rom had issue to get Dolby Funtional and some Magisk Module disappeared after reboot. For example in AICP I cant get funtional Dolby and Gcam at same time. If Dolby work, Gcam get infinite focus, after reboot, Gcam work fine but Dolby disappeared... crazy stuff... Also, (I dont know if that was fixed) screen cast is no possible on Pie Roms.
MIUI: its a little messy and need some tweaks to get good working. Had warming issue and Gcam had issue to work. Also is not multilingual (I speak spanish).
Good luck...

kukuteku said:
WARNING: I have a X727 zl1, not a X722 Zl0, check out if your phone version its compatible
For me, the most stable rom are Oreo's Rom.
I am using right now DotOS 2.4. non major issues.
Magisk 18.1
Dolby completely functional
Good battery
Beautiful UI
Gcam work perfectly
Lot of setting
BT/Wifi/Signal 4G-LTE work fine
Like you, I seek for battery and stability and I've had tried almost any Rom out there, Nougat, Oreo, Pie and MIUI
Nougat fault: Mic and Audio Issues and almost any Rom. Just last Omni was good but had kernel issue, Randomly shutdown few times at day.
Oreo: Very good mostly. Bootleggers its almost perfect, but had Bluetooth issue (cut sound when screen goes off)
But its very good option. Best for me, cDroid, DotOs, Bootleggers. Don't flash custom kernel on DotOS, won't boot and you must to flash Rom over.
Pie: I had a lot issue on Pie. Battery Drain mostly. Some Rom had issue to get Dolby Funtional and some Magisk Module disappeared after reboot. For example in AICP I cant get funtional Dolby and Gcam at same time. If Dolby work, Gcam get infinite focus, after reboot, Gcam work fine but Dolby disappeared... crazy stuff... Also, (I dont know if that was fixed) screen cast is no possible on Pie Roms.
MIUI: its a little messy and need some tweaks to get good working. Had warming issue and Gcam had issue to work. Also is not multilingual (I speak spanish).
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Thank you so much for giving such a detailed response! ^_^ I'll look into compatibility with my x722 (zl0) but it is good to know the various issues on the different ROMs, and now i know which oreo ROMs to check compatibility with mine. Thank you again for sharing your experience, it'll help others on zl1 who stumble upon this thread too
It'd be nice if this became a discussion thread where people continue to share their experiences

Sharing info I found on various threads for others reference
16th April 2019;
Aicp 14 (android 9 pie) on x722: SoT is low around 4.5 hrs, and Bluetooth connection issues https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79342870&postcount=1066

kukuteku said:
Pie: I had a lot issue on Pie. Battery Drain mostly. Some Rom had issue to get Dolby Funtional and some Magisk Module disappeared after reboot. For example in AICP I cant get funtional Dolby and Gcam at same time. If Dolby work, Gcam get infinite focus, after reboot, Gcam work fine but Dolby disappeared... crazy stuff... Also, (I dont know if that was fixed) screen cast is no possible on Pie Roms.
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I don't have any of those problems on latest AICP 14 build.
Dolby digital+ and some different GCam ports working without problem and battery draining is not bad really (about 6hrs. SOT with 4G and relatively light usage).
Also screen cast (Miracast) is working alright.

AICP Pie rom is the best, I'm using it for a year now.

rudolph323 said:
AICP Pie rom is the best, I'm using it for a year now.
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How is your battery consumption on it? Got any performance lag an year later compared to when it was flashed?
Thanks

AOSIP Pie is the best ROM I used, very fast, I have 7/8 hours of sot without greenify or any mod for battery, fingerprint is very fast too, great performance

[POLL] BEST Rom you are using

Hi,
I just want to know, according to you what is the best Rom you experience on Redmi Note 7 ? (basing on user experience, number of bugs, features, battery drain, responsivity ...)
It is just a personnal opinion and does not reflect the quality of rom for which the developers do a very good job

Tried Pixel Experience, Bootloggers, and AOSP extended and from those three AoSP is the best so far, best battery life, performance and fewest bugs.

Xiaomi.eu the best imo

Global stock excellent for me
Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 7 mediante Tapatalk

I'm interested in MicroG/NoGApps [do not have the device (yet)]. Usually I prefer LOS, so if official LOS exists the MicroG builds from download.lineage.microg.org - because of hal1/3 issue on lavender official LOS does not look nearby. So best MicroG ROM options to avoid deodex services.jar seem to be [OFFICIAL][9.0]AospExtended v6.6 or Havoc-OS-2.6-[9.0]-[Official] or [9.0][OFFICIAL]crDroid v5.6[Lavender]?
Regarding Problems with video recording & WhatsApp video call and proximity sensor all those ROMs are the same?

Xiaomi.eu it's been a good ROM, can hit around 8~9 hours of SOT, I've readed sometimes up to 10hours

I wish you separated miui into 1.) stock and 2.) xiaomi eu.
which I can't try yet as I'm still waiting to have my bootloader unlocked.

Conclusion: Don't be a tester for underdeveloped ROM, stay safe and stable with stock ROM.

kennyk09 said:
Conclusion: Don't be a tester for underdeveloped ROM, stay safe and stable with stock ROM.
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Are you serious? No one is holding a gun against your head and telling you to install roms. Those people spend hours and hours working so we can have multiple choices (not everyone likes miui) and they dont get a cent for their job. At least someone can do is install rom and give their feedback. These days roms are not making too much difference when it comes to overall performance cause phones have way better hardware and specs. But not so long ago when phones had 512mb of ram and you get them with fully bloated stock roms the only way of having a normal phone was to root and install a custom rom. So no need to trash talk if you dont like it dont use it. I personally havent tried single rom so far (tho i got my note 7 few weeks ago). I settled for xiaomi eu cause its stable with everything working and i dont have time to flash roms at the moment. But i will always be fan of pure android and OP if you like pure android and a bit smoother experience go for custom roms also battery will sure be better there. I heard evira kernel is good also you could try pixel experience (less customization) , aex or havoc for more customization.

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Are you serious? No one is holding a gun against your head and telling you to install roms. Those people spend hours and hours working so we can have multiple choices (not everyone likes miui) and they dont get a cent for their job. At least someone can do is install rom and give their feedback. These days roms are not making too much difference when it comes to overall performance cause phones have way better hardware and specs. But not so long ago when phones had 512mb of ram and you get them with fully bloated stock roms the only way of having a normal phone was to root and install a custom rom. So no need to trash talk if you dont like it dont use it. I personally havent tried single rom so far (tho i got my note 7 few weeks ago). I settled for xiaomi eu cause its stable with everything working and i dont have time to flash roms at the moment. But i will always be fan of pure android and OP if you like pure android and a bit smoother experience go for custom roms also battery will sure be better there. I heard evira kernel is good also you could try pixel experience (less customization) , aex or havoc for more customization.
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Now AOSP is not really good as you expect. Its smooth but battery is not really better than stock and not all feature is working some hiccup occurs in 3rd party apps

Immortal0907 said:
Are you serious? No one is holding a gun against your head and telling you to install roms. Those people spend hours and hours working so we can have multiple choices (not everyone likes miui) and they dont get a cent for their job. At least someone can do is install rom and give their feedback. These days roms are not making too much difference when it comes to overall performance cause phones have way better hardware and specs. But not so long ago when phones had 512mb of ram and you get them with fully bloated stock roms the only way of having a normal phone was to root and install a custom rom. So no need to trash talk if you dont like it dont use it. I personally havent tried single rom so far (tho i got my note 7 few weeks ago). I settled for xiaomi eu cause its stable with everything working and i dont have time to flash roms at the moment. But i will always be fan of pure android and OP if you like pure android and a bit smoother experience go for custom roms also battery will sure be better there. I heard evira kernel is good also you could try pixel experience (less customization) , aex or havoc for more customization.
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Learn the difference between trash talk and stating facts.
You don't even use custom ROM.
Sure, I also want everybody else to use custom ROMs so they get developed more quickly?

I am surprised that lineageOs has not more vote on this topic. It was a very popular Rom on other devices but I think there is other good competitors on RN7. I will have a look on AospExtended some day as it seems very adopted.
I previously switched to custom rom 'cause I had some issues with MIUI. I don't know if it is always the case but MIUI work smooth with default launcher but when using alternative laucher (for example Nova), I had issues with notifications counter. It seems that MIUI kill apps severly in order to have a good battery life. For me, notification badges was killed also fitness app like Samsung Health or google fit. It was not the case with Mi Fit.
Even if I set the correct property in the app control, it seems that xiaomi apps always have always been managed better like if they have some heigher privilege.

I'm very happy in Stock Global MIUI 10 stable.
Rooted.
Evira Kernel.
FDE.AI Magisk Module.
Underclocked.
Debloated.
Happy about it.
I enjoy visual appearance very much and MIUI is just beautiful to my eyes.

To me:
- Xiaomi.eu is the best if you can't live without the MIUI stuff. It has almost all the best MIUI can offer, removes most privacy issues from stock, and adds more useful features.
- For custom ROMs:
+ I love AOSPExtended since it has just enough customizations to play with. I have it on my RN7 (lavender) and RN4X (mido) and it works perfectly on both. I love the way my 2 phones look and work almost the same.
+ ResurrectionRemix has a crazy amount of customization options. I used to have it on my RN4X. I've never had it on my RN7 but it's a very popular ROM out there.
+ LineageOS is great if you enjoy minimalism. I have it on my ancient phones to keep them light and clean.
You can try different ROMs to see which one fits your needs or you can stay on stock MIUI. You have the choice. Just pay respect to developers as they devote their time and effort to create and improve ROMs.
Cheers! :fingers-crossed:

Syberia.. Just because its battery life.
Agreed to the person before me, always respect the DEV.. Nowdays people tend to ask too much and have lil patience.

So far am going with miui eu global official.Have tried global worldwide official and chinese official and find the eu global the best.Also tried the eu custom rom revolution x aosp extended bootleggers havoc and pixel experience and found aosp extended to be least buggy for me.When it comes to sound and camera especially adding gcam the official miui eu is better but try the roms for yourself and decide.

Is there any noticeable difference between global version number and eu version number?? Or the 10.6.0 and 10.3.3 are the same thing with small differences??

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Is there any noticeable difference between global version number and eu version number?? Or the 10.6.0 and 10.3.3 are the same thing with small differences??
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The eu 10.3.3 is a custom rom based on the chinese rom with all the chinese apps debloated.I found it a bit buggy with apps like what's app.You also have the eeu global 10.5.0 which I find the best after trying worldwide global chinese miui and eu custom rom.Eeu global has less adds and is more debloated than worldwide global.Best to try them and decide which suits.

after trying many roms, stock eu is best...some apps not work on custom roms, so stock with evira pure 1.4 kernel is best ?

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The eu 10.3.3 is a custom rom based on the chinese rom with all the chinese apps debloated.I found it a bit buggy with apps like what's app.You also have the eeu global 10.5.0 which I find the best after trying worldwide global chinese miui and eu custom rom.Eeu global has less adds and is more debloated than worldwide global.Best to try them and decide which suits.
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I'm a bit lost... what the difference between THIS and THIS ?? stable Vs weekly ?? one is for daily use, the second for "tests" builds ?
And what is the EEU version you're talking about ?? i just see the EU version... error typing maybe ?

Suggestions for stable custom rom (help)

I would like to bring Xiaomi Redmi 3s Prime 32/3 to life. It's still on stock MIUI 7 (V7.5.9.0.) Why? Because that ROM was really good and there was no need for update because everything was working OK. But now more and more apps requires a newer version of Android, so I need custom rom.
Anything stable from Android 8 and above will be OK.
I thought try with PixelExperience, but unfortunately they have just 11 version, no archive for older versions. At least I couldn't find it. So if that version is no good, can't try older one.
But I see there is PixelReloaded with 9 and 10 version still available.
Then there is ArrowOS, it's great thing that they still have all versions available for download, 9, 10 and 11.
I saw thread from @Atam2001 his experience with ROMs. Where he mentioned Nitrogen-OS-10 was great for him, and Superior OS was suggests as well as good ROM.
I do not looking nothing fancy, just something that is fluid and reliable.
Which rom and version you were very happy?

In case of 3GB variant you can go with FLOS 18.1 or Havoc 4.x or AEX A11 by Sairam. In my 2GB variant A11 unlike A10 is just too memory hungry for a reasonable multitasking experience. Havoc 3.11 based on A10 was really good. Fluid and bug free. I have been running FLOS 18.1 in land for several months without any issue.
If you need the best multitasking experience Pie ROMs with low RAM mod is the best and reasonably upto date option. In my 2GB device I had almost always 1GB RAM free. However other than Nichcream's LOS 16 build based on 4.9 kernel from late 2019 all the others are based on the stock 3.18 kernel and usually have quite a few bugs. I had tried many Pie ROMs based on 3.18 but was never satisfied until Q ROMs arrived with 4.9 kernel.

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In case of 3GB variant you can go with FLOS 18.1 or Havoc 4.x or AEX A11 by Sairam. In my 2GB variant A11 unlike A10 is just too memory hungry for a reasonable multitasking experience. Havoc 3.11 based on A10 was really good. Fluid and bug free. I have been running FLOS 18.1 in land for several months without any issue.
If you need the best multitasking experience Pie ROMs with low RAM mod is the best and reasonably upto date option. In my 2GB device I had almost always 1GB RAM free. However other than Nichcream's LOS 16 build based on 4.9 kernel from late 2019 all the others are based on the stock 3.18 kernel and usually have quite a few bugs. I had tried many Pie ROMs based on 3.18 but was never satisfied until Q ROMs arrived with 4.9 kernel.
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@amn1987 Thank you so much for reply
My idea was to start first with the lower android version. Because more people were working on development at the time.
So I tried with SuperiorOS Android 9 (20190824-0147).
The first problem was, system launcher was not working, I always get an error message. So, new launcher fixed the problem.
After two weeks of use everything was fine. Good battery life, wifi/mobile data OK, GPS, banking applications working, google cam OK.
Then sometimes it starts to reset himself. Or I couldn't turn it on. And date and time would be wrong. It doesn’t happen often but it's a sign to try something else.
Thanks for the details I will try something from your suggestion.

Forgot to mention that idle drain was mind bogglingly good in Q ROMs with 4.9 kernel, 0.1-0.15%/h almost always. In R ROMs, idle drain is a little higher at close to 0.3%/h. Does go as low as 0.1%/h but infrequently. 2G only, Sync off, Wifi/GPS off, BT on always but not paired constantly. Using NikGApps which has GMS Doze enabled.

To report back...
After SuperiorOS Android 9, I tried Havoc 3.11 based on Android 10. And it's much better. There is no random restarting, or problem with date/time like I had on SuperiorOS. Here everything working great! And all bank apps working with no problem, even there is no message that you using custom rom. Sairam did amazing job. There is a lot useful features, like app lock, double tap and so on...
After use MIUI based on Android 6, this is like a new phone.
Happy with HavocOS

Recently a new build of LOS 16 with 4.9 kernel was released by the dev "Cafebabe" on TG who nowadays seems to spearhead the development for land albeit most builds are seemingly unified builds also targeting riva, santoni etc. For my 2GB variant it could be the best option although Havoc 3.11 was very good as well.

I am honestly disappointed with how the battery works on custom roms.
I use camera recording (like a car video recorder) and on MIUI (stock) I can record 4 hours with minutes because that's what the battery allows.
But on most current custom roms, I don't even hit 3h, 2.5h on average. In addition, you can see the battery % drops faster and at 40% it can turn off as if it were 0%. And after a few minutes, it can be turned on and there is 20% or more of the battery. And I thought the battery was ending its life. But I flash the stock rom and it works like hassle ...

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I am honestly disappointed with how the battery works on custom roms.
I use camera recording (like a car video recorder) and on MIUI (stock) I can record 4 hours with minutes because that's what the battery allows.
But on most current custom roms, I don't even hit 3h, 2.5h on average. In addition, you can see the battery % drops faster and at 40% it can turn off as if it were 0%. And after a few minutes, it can be turned on and there is 20% or more of the battery. And I thought the battery was ending its life. But I flash the stock rom and it works like hassle ...
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Have you tried Q/R ROMs based on 4.9 kernel? In particular the ones by Sairam like Fork LOS, Havoc etc. While I haven't tested video recording but otherwise battery backup is excellent. Just about a month ago 10+ hours during offline video playback. Battery goes down to low single-digits w/o any issue. BTW you could enable bypass charging to take the stress off of the battery and prolong it's longevity.

You know, the most important thing here is the use that uses a lot of batteries.
And here only the MIUI custom roms (miuiEU, Android 7.1.2, Android 9, although the battery in 9 also lose a little faster) are comparable.
A long time ago - nichcream roms somehow worked fine with the battery.
Anyway, I thought most of the new ones were good until I started using the camera intensively.
I have used his custom roms and others too, and I don't know what's wrong...
Everywhere the battery is melting (when i use the camera) in the eyes except the MIUI based roms.

Well video recording is pretty resource intensive. No wonder it drains the battery. I might check it out if a relatively cooler day is in the offing.