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Could some of you guys post a recording of your mic from the transformer. Like music or something. I just can't believe the horible mic quality
That's because it's not made for Drake to use in the studio. You can't really expect anything decent for a tablet at $400.00. You're looking at the wrong market, it's made for voice recognition and it works superb in combination with Google's Voice-related API's. Have you tried Voice Actions with this thing? It works near perfectly even with a ****ty voice.
It could use a boost though, the girlfriend has trouble hearing me when chatting. Ive thought about a plug in directional mic for that.
Just bought a $2 plug in mic for iphone that people said improved its capture of voice from a conference room. Hopefully it works because its about the size of a piece of candy, would be easy to carry for chatting.
The mic is, hardware-wise, the sole lemon for me on the Transformer. It's close to useless, because it is so insensitive.
Using Skype on the Transformer, I literally have to have the tablet within about a foot of me, and turned sideways so the mic points directly at me (and I can't see the screen). And it's not the specific tab -- I've got both 16GB and 32GB units, and the mic performance is equally terrible on both.
I'm hoping it turns out to be a firmware issue and the gain can be adjusted, either by Asus or a third party, because as-is it's simply not useful, and I can't really take advantage of basic OS features like voice search because of that. (And yes, Tubular, I've tried it. With my clearest possible voice, I have so far only been able to manage one successful search in total. 99% of the time it searches for completely the wrong thing, or nothing at all.)
knoxploration said:
The mic is, hardware-wise, the sole lemon for me on the Transformer. It's close to useless, because it is so insensitive.
Using Skype on the Transformer, I literally have to have the tablet within about a foot of me, and turned sideways so the mic points directly at me (and I can't see the screen). And it's not the specific tab -- I've got both 16GB and 32GB units, and the mic performance is equally terrible on both.
I'm hoping it turns out to be a firmware issue and the gain can be adjusted, either by Asus or a third party, because as-is it's simply not useful, and I can't really take advantage of basic OS features like voice search because of that. (And yes, Tubular, I've tried it. With my clearest possible voice, I have so far only been able to manage one successful search in total. 99% of the time it searches for completely the wrong thing, or nothing at all.)
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Sounds like a defect: the mic is bad, but not that bad. Can you RMA it?
Or just up the gain in Skype. Anyhow, people have been telling me I sound like I'm in a vaccum when I talk on Ventrilo, but it is to be expected of a mic on a tablet.
knoxploration said:
The mic is, hardware-wise, the sole lemon for me on the Transformer. It's close to useless, because it is so insensitive.
Using Skype on the Transformer, I literally have to have the tablet within about a foot of me, and turned sideways so the mic points directly at me (and I can't see the screen). And it's not the specific tab -- I've got both 16GB and 32GB units, and the mic performance is equally terrible on both.
I'm hoping it turns out to be a firmware issue and the gain can be adjusted, either by Asus or a third party, because as-is it's simply not useful, and I can't really take advantage of basic OS features like voice search because of that. (And yes, Tubular, I've tried it. With my clearest possible voice, I have so far only been able to manage one successful search in total. 99% of the time it searches for completely the wrong thing, or nothing at all.)
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You have a defective unit. The microphone in the Transformer is similar to that on low-end netbooks, etc. It's made to work for voice chatting and for voice search. It will not record high end audio... However, plug in mics work, iirc.
I'm getting my Asus Transformer today. Given some of the manufacturing defect concerns, I've been starting a list of things to checkout when I get mine. I guess it's worth while to check to see that the mic works, at least OK enough for voice commands.
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That's because it's not made for Drake to use in the studio. You can't really expect anything decent for a tablet at $400.00. You're looking at the wrong market, it's made for voice recognition and it works superb in combination with Google's Voice-related API's. Have you tried Voice Actions with this thing? It works near perfectly even with a ****ty voice.
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Yep, it shines where my cappy fails! Nice voice recognition.
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quarky42 said:
Sounds like a defect: the mic is bad, but not that bad. Can you RMA it?
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dorino1 said:
You have a defective unit. The microphone in the Transformer is similar to that on low-end netbooks, etc. It's made to work for voice chatting and for voice search. It will not record high end audio... However, plug in mics work, iirc.
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Thanks for the replies, but note that I have *two* Transformers (one early-production 16GB, one almost brand new 32GB) and both are identical in terms of recording levels.
With no case or anything to block the mic, Skype is usable so long as the microphone faces towards me and is within 1-2 feet, but if I turn the tablet so the screen faces towards me, the person I'm Skyping can no longer hear me properly.
Voice search is probably further complicated by my accent (somewhere between British, American, and Australian, and I use pronunciations from all three accents near-interchangeably). It is, in a word, useless. Well, perhaps worse than useless. But that's likely half down to the weak mic, and half down to my accent.
But I really don't think the mic in both of my units is faulty, tbh -- the audio is too similar in both, and they're not from the same production run.
Alright. I'm confused, though. Is it harder to hear in portrait (long end on top/bottom) or landscape? (short end on top/bottom)
Anyway, if you want better quality, attach a headset.
agree..the mic on the TF is ****...til I root, install chems kernel mod, install voodoo control, and volumn plus...now it just ok.. not good.
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Alright. I'm confused, though. Is it harder to hear in portrait (long end on top/bottom) or landscape? (short end on top/bottom)
Anyway, if you want better quality, attach a headset.
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It's not portrait versus landscape, but rather, screen facing me, or screen facing to my left.
Imagine the TF sitting in front of you on a small table with dock attached, in netbook mode. Now imagine you've turned the whole thing 90 degrees so that the person sitting on the side of the table to your left can use it. That's the position I have to place the netbook in so that the mic can pick me up reasonably...
If I sit in front of the screen, the person I'm calling can barely hear me just two feet from my tablet (and as my long-suffering wife will tell you, I'm not a quiet speaker!) ;-) It's not specific to the person I'm calling -- I've tried doing a loopback test in Skype and even with the volume turned up all the way, I can hardly hear myself when sitting in front of the tab's screen.
Unfortunately I don't have the correct type of headset to test the mic jack. All my headsets either have separate mic / headphone cables, or a smaller size of jack.
Okay, I'm really pretty positive you have a bad unit, then. My mic at least works with the screen facing me!
Anyway, a coupler for dual 3.5mm headsets costs like 2 dollars
Thanks, guess I'll add it to my list of things to do -- call Asus and see if I need to get both tabs serviced...
That's immediately after I get my Creative speakers serviced. (Crackle on left channel.) And my Logitech mouse. (Left button double-clicks with a single click). And my Corsair power supply (started making a continuous ticking noise like a bearing's going).
*sigh* ;-)
has anyone tried using a bluetooth headset ? ive got a Nokia BH-109 paired with my TF, but no ones on skype for me to test it
dorino1 said:
You have a defective unit. The microphone in the Transformer is similar to that on low-end netbooks, etc. It's made to work for voice chatting and for voice search. It will not record high end audio... However, plug in mics work, iirc.
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Why then would you include the ability to record hi-def video,with absolutely horrendously bad audio recording...I can't believe this Mic is not defective...RMAing back to Amazon for a new unit.
Chas
knoxploration is right. my tf mic is terrible. there's nothing wrong with it...just really hard to hear for people on the other end. I do the same thing and turn the tab to the side so i'm facing the mic. person on the other end hears me better but then they can't see me. i guess it's time to use one of those usb ports for a 3rd party mic. anyone tested any?
Hello guys,what do you think about this nice watch?
It have dual function...bluetoth shincronize with smartphones and a simcard phone function!
Here is all the details,and is like an upgrade of simple U8
http://emergencyplus-tw.com/wordpress/?p=1033
I buyt from ebay with 62usd,and I wait to come now!
Maybe will have more firmwares and details in future!
alesul said:
Hello guys,what do you think about this nice watch?
It have dual function...bluetoth shincronize with smartphones and a simcard phone function!
Here is all the details,and is like an upgrade of simple U8
http://emergencyplus-tw.com/wordpress/?p=1033
I buyt from ebay with 62usd,and I wait to come now!
Maybe will have more firmwares and details in future!
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Keep us updated alesul
Also a walk through video is available on youtube (in Chinese):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ldpTp1kZyQ
From what information I gather through the video, the watch does not run Android, instead run a custom OS (java based most likely). The battery size is 350mah, and the watch take an optional micro-sim.
The video also claim the watch is water resistant, but not water proof. Additional the sync software work mostly only with Android, iOS have very limited sync functionality.
Hi
Hey can u plz give the review.. I am thinking of buying a smartwatch within $70-80.. so considering U8 or U8 Pro.. there is another one though which I liked but can't find any review at all.. So how is this U8 Pro? & another thing.. do u know if in the given range there is any watch with a 3.5mm port or not?
@NeelDroid - there's the SmartQ Z watch which but its $99, however using Bitcoin you can get it for $79. Features:
3.5mm port
3 different custom ROMs
Firmaware updates
Play Store but only certain apps work
Water resistant
Refer to the thread pls.
On a different note there's the Chinese Pebble copy for around $58. Please refer to its thread.
@simple1i
This 79$ is with shipping or without, if w/o what will be cost to poland (if its possible)?
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ch3mn3y said:
@simple1i
This 79$ is with shipping or without, if w/o what will be cost to poland (if its possible)?
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$79 with shipping registered worldwide :highfive: - it does not have a speaker, just a 3.5mm port.
Contact user adro (no paypal, bitcoin only) http://smartqwatch.com/forum/discussion/5336/selling-smartq-z-watch-z-watch-lite-69usd
Note: there are two models, the lite model for $69 no with no Wifi and less RAM ...i think and the other one with Wifi. Come with a few colours.
Also a newer model (Z2 or P1 or H1, not sure what its called) is supposed to be coming out in June, unconfirmed cost is around $169, no 3,5mm port, but with speakers.
Heh. Who need speaker in watch? Vibrations are usefull, but speaker?
So.now i need the money for bitcoins, thanks!
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Heh. Who need speaker in watch? Vibrations are usefull, but speaker?
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MIC/Speaker is a very useful feature. Voice to text/text to voice, voice search, voice commands and the like. This can all be done without digging that 5.4" massive phone out of your pocket every time or in cases where your hands are full or the phone is out of reach. Speaker without a MIC is silly though.
i just sold my u8 to get the u8 pro... found like 3 new videos of it on youtube and it seems good for the money.. hopefully i'll get it soon..
so what are the differences between U8 and U8 pro?
hardware looks different, or are there real changes?
software is newer but not that much different?
same BTNotifier app?
JarlSX said:
so what are the differences between U8 and U8 pro?
hardware looks different, or are there real changes?
software is newer but not that much different?
same BTNotifier app?
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Well there is a micro sim card slot which allows it to be a stand alone phone if needed.
This is all for an android phone ad that is what I am using with btnotify as downloaded from the details on the instruction sheet that came with the phone.
The phone arrived set to Chinese so to set it to English find the settings icon (looks like a gear wheel)
Tap the second option down.
Tap the second option down again.
Select the first option which is English.
I have one of these and it works pretty well even just as a phone.
Unfortunately the instruction sheet is a bit limited and you need to work a few things out.
Using btnotification on an android phone it will push full notification with some of the contents not just the fact you have a message to the watch.
You can start your smart phone camera and see the picture it is seeing then make it capture it on the smart phone using the smart watch as a remote control.
You can use the music app on the smart watch to operate your music played app on the smart phone to play music held on your phone. On mine I can skip tracks but NOT alter the volume coming through the smart phone speakers or smart phone earphones.
Of you allow the music to play through the smart watch speaker or earphone then the volume control on the smart watch works locally.
This may depend on the app you have on the phone and what functionality the phone has.
There are 4 clock faces and the digital one is very good.
The screen is bright and has good viewing angles. It comes on with a button press and goes off on a second button press or after about 5 seconds of inactivity. This is good for the battery life and not as much as much of a pain as it might at first appear.. No more so than pressing a button for a back light at night. There is only one button so you can't get it wrong.
Slightly annoyingly the standard micro USB plugs are longer at about 8mm because the USB slot is sunk to protect it from damage and water I suppose. The earphones are also micro USB in fact the same slot a there is only one. A 3.5 mm jack would have been better for me ad I don't like the earphones supplied very much. A bit of rooting around on the net can yield some 8mm cables but as yet I have not found a 8mm micro USB to 3.5 mm jack plug adaptor.
If anyone can work out how the speed dial works I would love to know how.
You can get the local sim to call numbers by entering their position on the sim followed by #. Not really the same thing but easier than scrolling through the local address book. Note their position on the sim is as they were added to the sim not alphabetical.
I might add to this as I find out a bit more.
I do have the observation that while names come up for incoming calls to the smart watch if they come from the smart phone it displays the phone number. Maybe this is just my fault.
Both the lost phone and loss of blue tooth connection (phone out of range) work.
I will be interested to see any other comments or instructions from anyone else.
Well only one day in and I find an undocumented feature. If you move your arm forward like you want to know the time the screen comes on. So one handed operation is no problem. Obviously someone used an accelerometer feed to switch on the display or my watch has a loose connection but I think it is very clever, just wish I had a manual that documented all the features.
Note you may have to try it a few times to get it to work but it will.
Upro
my2234 said:
Well there is a micro sim card slot which allows it to be a stand alone phone if needed.
This is all for an android phone ad that is what I am using with btnotify as downloaded from the details on the instruction sheet that came with the phone.
The phone arrived set to Chinese so to set it to English find the settings icon (looks like a gear wheel)
Tap the second option down.
Tap the second option down again.
Select the first option which is English.
I have one of these and it works pretty well even just as a phone.
Unfortunately the instruction sheet is a bit limited and you need to work a few things out.
Using btnotification on an android phone it will push full notification with some of the contents not just the fact you have a message to the watch.
You can start your smart phone camera and see the picture it is seeing then make it capture it on the smart phone using the smart watch as a remote control.
You can use the music app on the smart watch to operate your music played app on the smart phone to play music held on your phone. On mine I can skip tracks but NOT alter the volume coming through the smart phone speakers or smart phone earphones.
Of you allow the music to play through the smart watch speaker or earphone then the volume control on the smart watch works locally.
This may depend on the app you have on the phone and what functionality the phone has.
There are 4 clock faces and the digital one is very good.
The screen is bright and has good viewing angles. It comes on with a button press and goes off on a second button press or after about 5 seconds of inactivity. This is good for the battery life and not as much as much of a pain as it might at first appear.. No more so than pressing a button for a back light at night. There is only one button so you can't get it wrong.
Slightly annoyingly the standard micro USB plugs are longer at about 8mm because the USB slot is sunk to protect it from damage and water I suppose. The earphones are also micro USB in fact the same slot a there is only one. A 3.5 mm jack would have been better for me ad I don't like the earphones supplied very much. A bit of rooting around on the net can yield some 8mm cables but as yet I have not found a 8mm micro USB to 3.5 mm jack plug adaptor.
If anyone can work out how the speed dial works I would love to know how.
You can get the local sim to call numbers by entering their position on the sim followed by #. Not really the same thing but easier than scrolling through the local address book. Note their position on the sim is as they were added to the sim not alphabetical.
I might add to this as I find out a bit more.
I do have the observation that while names come up for incoming calls to the smart watch if they come from the smart phone it displays the phone number. Maybe this is just my fault.
Both the lost phone and loss of blue tooth connection (phone out of range) work.
I will be interested to see any other comments or instructions from anyone else.
Well only one day in and I find an undocumented feature. If you move your arm forward like you want to know the time the screen comes on. So one handed operation is no problem. Obviously someone used an accelerometer feed to switch on the display or my watch has a loose connection but I think it is very clever, just wish I had a manual that documented all the features.
Note you may have to try it a few times to get it to work but it will.
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Thanks on advise on clock "moving hand forward" I discovered you just shake your hand and it comes on.(This was bugging me the phone goes off now its ok)
Just rec my UPro. Works very well so far. Hope it last for some time.
Able to rec and make calls
Able to take pics.
Able to rec sms. Sending tedious though.
Able to insert another sim card.
Can see callers on in coming phone and names and messages in sms.
Q- Is there any Whatsapp. i cant find it.
tks
RMnaf said:
Thanks on advise on clock "moving hand forward" I discovered you just shake your hand and it comes on.(This was bugging me the phone goes off now its ok)
Just rec my UPro. Works very well so far. Hope it last for some time.
Able to rec and make calls
Able to take pics.
Able to rec sms. Sending tedious though.
Able to insert another sim card.
Can see callers on in coming phone and names and messages in sms.
Q- Is there any Whatsapp. i cant find it.
tks
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So moving your arm up turns on the screen? Is this a standard function or does like the pedometer have to be on?
is the watch strap replaceable? i dont really like buckle straps and would prefer a deployment clasp. im gonna be ordering this tomorrow so i would just like to know so that i could get the strap at the same time. I intend to make a video on this watch since there arent many. im actually excited for this watch, my hopes arent high but from what i can tell it's a pretty decent smart watch for what it costs.
my2234 said:
Well there is a micro sim card slot which allows it to be a stand alone phone if needed.
Slightly annoyingly the standard micro USB plugs are longer at about 8mm because the USB slot is sunk to protect it from damage and water I suppose. The earphones are also micro USB in fact the same slot a there is only one. A 3.5 mm jack would have been better for me ad I don't like the earphones supplied very much. A bit of rooting around on the net can yield some 8mm cables but as yet I have not found a 8mm micro USB to 3.5 mm jack plug adaptor.
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aliexpress.com/item/New-Micro-USB-to-3-5mm-RCA-Jack-Headphone-Earphone-Audio-Adapter-Socket-Convertor-Cable-Free/1457486610.html
i guess if the usb connector is not long enough on this one could remove the plastic case and stick some hot glue on it to make it longer.
so i got the impression though that you cannot store music on u8 pro itself, right?
also i`m kind of assuming that you would not be able to use u8 pro with bluetooth headset
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i guess if the usb connector is not long enough on this one could remove the plastic case and stick some hot glue on it to make it longer.
so i got the impression though that you cannot store music on u8 pro itself, right?
also i`m kind of assuming that you would not be able to use u8 pro with bluetooth headset
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headset of headphones? you should be able to use a headset but it might get a bit complicated. like if you answered on the phone and wanted to switch to the headset, it might switch to the watch instead of the headset but thats the only problem that might come up. because this watch is its own phone, it allows you answer the phone with the audio coming out of the phone and if you answer on the watch the sound will come out of the watch, the headset shouldnt get in the way... but thats based off my understanding of how the watch and bluetooth works, ill update when i get the watch haha
update: i said up there that answering on the phone would make the audio come out of the phone while answering on the watch will make the audio come out of the watch. well earlier today i asked on youtube whether or not this is true and the guy said that it is false. audio will always come out of the watch. BUT in the elegance u8 thread, someone said that the the audio will only come out of the watch if you answer on the watch, so im not sure. can anyone else confirm whether this is true or false?
Upro
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So moving your arm up turns on the screen? Is this a standard function or does like the pedometer have to be on?
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Shake yr arms better, it will slowly come on . No need pedometer.
mahnameisjaime1 said:
is the watch strap replaceable? i dont really like buckle straps and would prefer a deployment clasp. im gonna be ordering this tomorrow so i would just like to know so that i could get the strap at the same time. I intend to make a video on this watch since there arent many. im actually excited for this watch, my hopes arent high but from what i can tell it's a pretty decent smart watch for what it costs.
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I think the strap is a standard 24mm wide or just slightly less than 1 inch.
It looks pretty standard with except that the pin holding it is not a spring loaded type but
in fact looks as if it is some sort of screw with a hexaganol head
of the type you would put a very small Allen key in.
Changing it looks as though it should be pretty easy if you have two such Allen keys.
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aliexpress.com/item/New-Micro-USB-to-3-5mm-RCA-Jack-Headphone-Earphone-Audio-Adapter-Socket-Convertor-Cable-Free/1457486610.html
i guess if the usb connector is not long enough on this one could remove the plastic case and stick some hot glue on it to make it longer.
so i got the impression though that you cannot store music on u8 pro itself, right?
also i`m kind of assuming that you would not be able to use u8 pro with bluetooth headset
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Not quite as easy as that because the metal outer case has to be 8mm all the way back from the tip to the shoulder on the plastic.
I read somewhere about someone stripping back the standard plastic plug and finding just the wires underneath.
There is a web site I found selling the longer tip variety of micro USB plug so if it arrives I will test it and maybe I can post a link.
You are correct I think as so far the only music I have played was on my smart phone.
The Bluetooth headphones might not be a problem as you can probable pair them with your smart phone
if the watch won't recognise them , which I suspect it wont.
The odd thing even then the volume control on the watch, in my case won't communicate with the volume control in my music app.
It will make the tracks skip and pause, pity about the volume control.
It is a dedicated piece of firmware as opposed to Android so it boots up very quickly but there are limitations unless the manufacturer posts updates to the firmware.
The battery life is quite good so far, for me a day of light use at least. Charging is pretty quick. It will of course charge off a lap top or aux battery using its 8mm micro USB cable.
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so what are the differences between U8 and U8 pro?
hardware looks different, or are there real changes?
software is newer but not that much different?
same BTNotifier app?
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does this clock has an altimeter like the non pro version of this watch?
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does this clock has an altimeter like the non pro version of this watch?
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No
Smartphone Android 4.4 MTK6572 Dual Core 1.5Inch GPS 2.0MP Camera Bluetooth 4.0
Features:
Powerful Watch Phone Landed Now!
Pragmatic and decent appearance design.
Concise and comfortable interface and fluent screen touch experience.
Condense all Android intelligent phone functions into a tiny watch, eliminate the inconvenience of carry around.
Dual Core
Android: Android OS v4.4
Built in GPS. Built-in GPS, supprt A-GPS, google map or other map
Data service: WAP2.0 GPRS,EDGE,HSPA+
Band 2G: networks GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz. Band 3G: WCDMA 2100/850/1900 MHz
Wifi: 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth Version: 4.0
Single SIM Card Single Standby
Memory card: Support 32G
Data transfer: USB/Bluetooth
Mobile internet: WAP/WiFi
Message: SMS/MMS
Input: Handwrite/Keypad
Single Camera: 2.0MP
Browser: WAP 2.0
CPU: MTK6572. CPU Frequency: 1.2GHz
Vedio file support: mp4, 3GP, rmvb, flv, etc.
Audio file support: mp3, acc, amr, ogg, m4a, mid, wma, flac, ape, aac, wav, etc.
Image file support: jpeg, png, jif, bmp, etc.
RAM: 512MB. ROM: 4GB
Battery Capacity: 700mAh
Standby Time About 2~3 days
LCD Size: 1.54 inch, 240×240 pixel OGS capacitive screen
Net Weight: 68g (Including battery)
Dimension: 60×43×16.88mm
MultiLanguages: English, Bahasa Indonesia, Deutsch(German), Espanol(Spanish), French, Italiano, Nederlands, Portuguese, Turkish, Russian, Arabic, Thai, Simplified/Traditional Chinese
FM RADIO
Package Included:
1x ZGPAX S82 Android Smart Watch Phone
1×Battery
1×Charger
1×USB cable
1×User manual
http://www.zgpax.com/mobile.php?a=show&m=product&id=41&chid=44&g=mobile
Will 3G data work in the USA with this S82 Watch?
This is the first time ever I have seen this on a watch:
Band 2G: networks GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz. Band 3G: WCDMA 2100/850/1900 MHz
That's straight from the specs. Other forums have indicated at&t operates the WCDMA connectivity on 1900 MHz. If that's true, will this watch support the higher data rate in the USA with at&t as the carrier? Has anyone tested this out to REALLY verify it?
Thanks.
Hmmmm this seems nice
I was going to get the S8 but this seems better.
Any one got one yet?
STK2008 said:
Hmmmm this seems nice
I was going to get the S8 but this seems better.
Any one got one yet?
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Hey I have Both I literally just got the S82 today and I like the look of the S8 better!!!
The functionality is also easier on the S8, but don't take my word for it because i have only had it for one day!!!
I think that the S82 is better for extra memory, removable battery, and the screen resolution looks better. Nothing else really stands out to me!!!
Sorry, English is not spoken Google Translate
I got it on 30 June.
I assess its more like a toy than a complete replacement. And, oh yes, I have it in my hands and lying on the table, constantly wearing on his arm until he tried.
*Now, about the shortcomings.
*According to the manufacturer's website battery capacity of 700 mAh. In my copy of 500 mAh. On eBay, there are two types of battery: Model 463232 - 500 mAh and Model 452547 700 mAh. In my case, 500 mAh. I saw information about other models of batteries for other models zgpax there some sort of confusion: on one battery write 700 mAh, and the description thereto - 500 mAh . So I do not know whether to trust these figures.
*On the manufacturer's website said the three sub-screen buttons. But realistically, only one button - the "return". I researched and found out that some programs will replace the missing "Menu" button if you can hold the left edge of the screen to the right. But what to replace the central button "Home" do not know. As it is often required to go to the menu Settings, or running programs long press "Home" and then come back. Have to press "Return" to close the program, change anything in settings, and then re-run the program (if the program is full screen and can not see the top of the bar to quickly setting). Without these keys very uncomfortable. Maybe something I do not know, this is my first watch and learn on their own.
*Hours of course small, just can not say. I have a habit of more smartphones to turn off all wireless, you do not need at the moment and close the program. In these hours, I installed the program iBattery, which in sleep mode disables the wireless and dampens background processes. After switching on again% battery charge varies little, even if, for example, it took half a day. But at the same time you will not run programs that have something to work online. The program has a setting that can be turned off in sleep mode.
*More about the battery life. The battery is discharged relatively evenly (if one can say so), but when it was less than 40%, then quickly, before our eyes discharged. The truth is when I used about two days sometimes including watches. But keep in mind that the number of% charge can be deceptive and the battery is discharged very quickly (just drop into the abyss).
*Another unpleasant surprise was the background noise when recording microphone. Maybe it's just me, I do not know. But when the recorded video with the sound recorder and recorded, it appeared on the record very noticeable background. I do not know how it connects the microphone to the motherboard, do not understand, but it is very unpleasant. Call off the clock I did not try, not tested.
*Level wi-fi signal is weaker than the big smartphone at the same distance. But it works. Just worked bluetoth headset for external headphones - check the music, I did not try to call, do not use.
*GPS works. It just seems that the signal strength is weakened if the watch is worn on the arm. Remove the watch seems to be better. Quickly picked up by satellites if the program updated AGPS. Without this long.
*The standard keyboard is very small. You can try MessagEase keyboard, but get used to it and adjust.
*The font size in Settings better expose the fine.
*If the program is some kind of advertising, in contrast to a large smartphone, where a small advertising bar at the bottom, then the clock it can take almost half of the screen. Even if you run without wireless networks, then this place will be empty.
*Built launcher scrolls like that tight. Sometimes you have to move a little in the opposite direction, and then to the right - then scrolls.
*He tried to pick up, but it is not found launcher without advertising, to have more icons on one screen, and not to open the folder. I use the built.
*The camera shoots course is not very good. Yet it is fair 2 megaPixel. I've seen pictures on the internet made similar clocks supposedly 5 megaPixel, but there was just awful interpolation, feeling that took the sensor ~ 0,3 megaPixel and greatly interpolated to 5. So that the camera in my watch but not much, but still the better. It's funny that in the program Open Camera video settings have much higher resolution of the real, but the video still will remove 864 * 480. In this program the default quality jpeg 90%, 100%, I found, though subjectively the difference is not obvious.The camera is in such hours not to create photographic masterpieces , and if with nothing for normal shooting, and it is necessary to capture all costs (eg price tags in the store .
*Incidentally, the level sensors do not work properly in hours. It seemed to me that the navigation program where the compass shows when you hold not horizontally, but vertically. Also, if in the Open Camera to include stability augmentation, the picture will be cut off and inclined. A program interface is inverted 180 degrees, tilt and if by yourself, then become normal. This indicates improper calibration of the sensors. Perhaps there are programs where possible to set up, I do not know.
*What else to add? The exterior design is closer to the classic clock. The camera on the right side a bit like winding mechanical watches. Buttons on the left side - less likelihood press chamber as in the other clock, where all with one hand. Hours unprotected battery is built into the rear cover and remove easily without loosening the screws. Access to the SIM card and the card slot light. Stuck Card Transcend 32Gb UHS-I TS32GUSDU1 - works .
*By the way, when buying was no information on the headphones. Came parcel included microUSB appeared headphones. The firmware has a FM-station. Connected to test - runs.
*On the screen at the plant was glued film, glossy, uneven, it is necessary to tear off the top layer №2. But under the film had a lot of bubbles and dust particles. I tried to clean up and re-stick, it became better, but 2-3 motes remained
*Figured screen size ~ 38 * 41 mm. Of similar size saw glass sony smartwatch, but there are size 39,2 * 39,2 mm. So it goes a little wider. I do not know whether the glass is carefully grind, to come in width.
There is only one plus for the S82, the better battery:
According to the manufacturer's website battery capacity of 700 mAh. In my copy of 500 mAh.
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Very bad, like all available chinese watch phones. My EC309 has a 560 mAh battery, on the website 600 mAh.
When can we get a good one? I would pay 500 €, but only crap is available.
smartwatchticks said:
This is the first time ever I have seen this on a watch:
Band 2G: networks GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz. Band 3G: WCDMA 2100/850/1900 MHz
That's straight from the specs. Other forums have indicated at&t operates the WCDMA connectivity on 1900 MHz. If that's true, will this watch support the higher data rate in the USA with at&t as the carrier? Has anyone tested this out to REALLY verify it?
Thanks.
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Just got the watch. I can confirm that it works 3G on AT&T network. The only pluses for this watch vs. the S8 is that U.S. customers will be able to access 3G on both AT&T and T mobile, and can easily swap memory cards. The battery is 500mah, not 700mah as advertised by the manufacturer and several websites. The watch is very thick and clunky. The position of the camera is difficult to take photos while wearing the watch. There is no home button, just a back button. Touchscreen response is poor at times. Speaker volume is quite loud.
FM radio works with included microusb headphones. Battery is attached to back cover. The battery/cover unit can be easily removed to access the SIM card slot and TF card slot. If you install a launcher like nova launcher, the notifications panel at the top disappears. Google Playstore works. Bluetooth pairing to keyboard and headset works fine. About 1.2 GB memory for apps, like the S8. If you don't live in the U.S. and don't need a lot of storage memory, stick with the S8.
I've put the S82 aside for now and have gone back to my Aplus GV18. I may be returning the S82 as I am in a dispute with the seller about falsely advertising a 700mah battery.
Examples photo Open Camera
kravmama1 said:
Just got the watch. I can confirm that it works 3G on AT&T network. The only pluses for this watch vs. the S8 is that U.S. customers will be able to access 3G on both AT&T and T mobile, and can easily swap memory cards. The battery is 500mah, not 700mah as advertised by the manufacturer and several websites. The watch is very thick and clunky. The position of the camera is difficult to take photos while wearing the watch. There is no home button, just a back button. Touchscreen response is poor at times. Speaker volume is quite loud.
FM radio works with included microusb headphones. Battery is attached to back cover. The battery/cover unit can be easily removed to access the SIM card slot and TF card slot. If you install a launcher like nova launcher, the notifications panel at the top disappears. Google Playstore works. Bluetooth pairing to keyboard and headset works fine. About 1.2 GB memory for apps, like the S8. If you don't live in the U.S. and don't need a lot of storage memory, stick with the S8.
I've put the S82 aside for now and have gone back to my Aplus GV18. I may be returning the S82 as I am in a dispute with the seller about falsely advertising a 700mah battery.
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Good review!!
XG3002 said:
Examples photo Open Camera
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Photos from working watch?
Attached some outdoor and indoor photos from my watch camera. No alteration.
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Attached some outdoor and indoor photos from my watch camera. No alteration.
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do you has pictures from watch?
Attached are photos of the watch. I have tested GPS. Works fine outdoors. Difficulties finding position indoors. Battery goes from 40% to 14% quickly. This is my first day of heavy use. I think that it is because the battery is not calibrated yet. Should improve over the next few days. Heavy use and screen on time today of 4-5 hours. Includes downloading some apps, using GPS, taking photos, watching a little YouTube and playing with various settings, wallpapers, etc. Gets a little warm but not hot. Do not notice warmth when on wrist, only when holding in hand. Touch screen response getting a little better with continued use. Still frustrated with the watch, but getting better as I find apps to get around its shortcomings.
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Photos from working watch?
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Yes, it's a photo with working watch.
Photo of nature - individual blades of grass,twigs of trees , leaves are noticeably better compression quality jpeg.
I set the program Open Camera because more options in comparison with the firmware.
In my copy of the image on the clock in the corners of the photo looks blurry and darker.
It did not work to upload a video of 20 MB.
Tell me please, what quality audio recording?
In my copy of the recording sound is very strong background noise.
And you checked the phone call - as an interlocutor hears you?
XG3002 said:
Tell me please, what quality audio recording?
In my copy of the recording sound is very strong background noise.
And you checked the phone call - as an interlocutor hears you?
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Call quality: If cell signal is poor, then difficult to make calls because voice drops on both sides. The cellular antenna on the S82 is weaker than my $25 GV18. So tested at place with good cell signal. Speaker volume is loud for music play, but is not as loud for phone calls. Would be difficult to hear in noisy room. Using watch microphone, there is some voice distortion, but can still understand. When paired with bluetooth headset the volume is loud - easy to hear other party, also other party can hear my voice clearly. For making phone calls, best to use bluetooth headset. Also, need to make sure you use carrier with strong signal in your area or you won't be able to make calls.
Using voice recorder with both the watch microphone and bluetooth headset, I did hear some background noise, but not strong. There was no background noise during phone calls.
I had to download a messaging app from Play Store in order to text. The phone messaging app did not work out of the box.
One plus of the S82 is the rubber cover over the microusb port that prevents things from getting in. I understand that the S8 microusb port is open. There is a screen protector pre-installed. Good screen visibility in sunlight. The screen on uses up most battery, so turn screen to lowest setting when indorrs to save battery. note that the speaker hole is on the watchband itself as are the antennas.
Will update in future post with some apps that may be useful to make watch more usable. There is now a YouTube video of the watch from an owner. I am new to this forum so am unable to post a direct link. Just search ZGPAX S82 on YouTube. It is posted by Morry.
I'm am sure the device could be made better after root, but I am not knowledgeable enough to be comfortable with trying to root it.
https://youtu.be/xQjm4midRHI
Will this work through bluetooth to a phone, or is it stand alone only.
Thanks
You can use a program like SWApp Link for companion functions.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2740033
rooting s82
Anybody know how to root the zgpax s82 also known as Alps H18.
Thanks in advance.
Hey everyone, a few weeks ago I had posted asking for experiences on the audio out feature on the 2nd gen Amazon game controller. I got some answers and I went ahead with my purchase since I was able to get $20 knocked off the retail price. This is my review of watching movies on Kodi while connecting my headphones to the game controller.
Connection
This connects via WiFi Direct. As soon as I inserted my headphone wire into the jack, a small notification appeared on the tv saying that the audio was being sent to the game controller. Once I removed it, sound played from my speakers.
Audio Quality
I felt that the audio quality was decent. Initially, I ran into the issue where the audio was extremely distorted (like the sound was deep and disgusting), but I disconnected the audio cable, restarted the movie, and played at some random part to ensure to the audio quality was good. I then reinserted the cable to the jack and listened. The audio was good. So I restarted the movie and watched. At times, I did feel like the audio wasn't very rich, but it was decent enough for me. Oh and the most important part -- you know how we had to adjust the audio offset in Kodi when we played via bluetooth? Yep, not an issue with the controller. Audio synced perfectly. :good:
Volume
I faced the biggest issue with volume. Kodi doesn't have a volume control option (since all it does is play around with the amplification), and there was nothing on google that I found that helped. Out of desperation, I thought about giving up and just watching something on Sling.tv (an app I downloaded from the app store), and while in the process, I changed the volume. Curious, I went back into Kodi to see if the volume was reduced (since originally the volume was extremely loud), and it was. I went back and forth (thank you FireStarter!) and adjusted the volume to my liking. I didn't have to change the volume throughout the rest of the movie. As a side note, the right stick adjusts the volume in Kodi (since a little popup on the top right appears with a volume bar) -- yeah, that does nothing.
Issues I faced
There was only one issue that sort of fixed itself. When I watch movies on my bed at night, I have a tower fan oscillating about a few feet from the side of the bed. This happened to my bluetooth receiver as well, but there were these noticeable gaps / drops in audio. Sort of like a hiccup. Anyway, I turned off the tower fan and the audio didn't drop. I turned it back on and the audio didn't drop again. It was a weird experience.
It's only been one day, one movie. So I can't say how long the battery will last. Since this will be used primarily for audio, maybe an occasional game or two, I'll keep track of when the battery need replacing.
Overall Thoughts
Strictly speaking, is $50 worth it to listen to audio while on the bed? It depends. Bluetooth is significantly cheaper and it is rechargeable, so you aren't spending a lot of money on AA batteries. I was facing issues with audio while listening using a BT receiver. Audio offsetting wasn't a big deal since I figured out my magical number (+0.375 sec), but the audio gaps really took away from an excellent experience. At retail price, I probably wouldn't go for it. But having received a $20 discount ($10 in GC, $10 in discover promotion), I'm going to keep it.
That's all. HTH.
I just got mine yesterday.
Thoughts.
*very* similar to the xbox360 pad, but quite slippy. Def needs more grip, gonna buy some rubber sticky grips for it from Amazon lol.
The L2/R2 buttons are too much at right angles IMO.
They should be angled in a bit more to fit better.
A bit front heavy
All buttons and thumb sticks feel good.
Sound for me was good through my Bose earbuds.
4/5. just needs wayyy more games.
I have the opportunity to really put the video and audio recording abilities of this phone to the test tonight at a couple of music venues. I've got to admit that the audio settings of the manual video camera and the HD audio recorder confuse me a bit. I understand that this phone has a raised level at which it'll clip (130db) but I don't even really know how to go about making sure I'm not clipping audio. (Video, sure, but not audio.) Any advice, instruction and/or input is appreciated with audio stuff. I want to give this thing a fair shake.
Second question... I know where two of the three mics are, one top and one bottom, but I've not yet seen anyone point out where the third one is, ideas?
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I have the opportunity to really put the video and audio recording abilities of this phone to the test tonight at a couple of music venues. I've got to admit that the audio settings of the manual video camera and the HD audio recorder confuse me a bit. I understand that this phone has a raised level at which it'll clip (130db) but I don't even really know how to go about making sure I'm not clipping audio. (Video, sure, but not audio.) Any advice, instruction and/or input is appreciated with audio stuff. I want to give this thing a fair shake.
Second question... I know where two of the three mics are, one top and one bottom, but I've not yet seen anyone point out where the third one is, ideas?
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If I'm not mistaken the 3rd Microphone is internal, I recall seeing this on one of many youtube reviews I watched..
A weird place to keep a mic.
Ok, didn't get any input so I went in flying blind last night. For audio settings, I went into the HD audio recorder and looked at its concert settings and used those. I think I still need to figure out the settings better but I can actually hear more separation to the parts of the band than I could when I was there. (It was loud and just about a wall of noise!) So I have two links attached below. One was recorded just with the main lens. The other one I switched between the two. As you will see, there's a couple of things to point out, all which were obvious and to be expected. 1) My hands are shaky, especially standing there holding a phone up at various points of the set and through entire songs. 2) The wide angle lens obviously doesn't do as well being f2.4 at 8mp vs f1.8 and 16mp for the main but it did allow me to take in the whole band despite standing up front. 3) I'm not sure if the stabilization was active or not. I think it might have been and there's just only so much one should expect from it. Any way, the settings I used for the visual portion were FHD, bit rate high (24), ISO 3200 at 1/60 with video set to 30fps. (Oh! And I need to add a note, the refocusing is my fault for touching the screen during recording.)
https://youtu.be/ZobXudjVghM
https://youtu.be/zb_ncY5lbB0