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Hello Developers, fellow users. I am Sam and I'd like to point out something that has been happening everywhere for years but it gets ignored.
I've been using Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 since when it was released in India and I was a XDA member even before that! Previously I had a Samsung Galaxy flagship phone.
Guys, all we've been doing is chasing our tails. Let me tell you why I say this. It starts with using MiUi and getting bored, then eventually Stock Android/AOSP ROMs are made (Of course because of the hard work the developers put in). We use them, they work really good, and their bugs are fewer.
However, as soon as there's a "Newer Version" of Android released, everthing else is left in the dust and forgotten!
Here's what I want to ask anyone and everyone who would answer it......
Why do we chase something that isn't even released for our device? What's the rush?
It started with Marshmallow release.
There were good lollipop ROMs and Marshmallow did not come out for our device, but nevertheless, the process started. Okay, but by the time when some good Marshmallow ROMs were being made, Nougat gets released and all hell breaks loose, "AGAIN"!!! Once more, the process started. And again on the verge of having some good Nougat ROMs, "Oreo is released"? Please see the pattern here!!
Now, we know that Nougat might never be made available, officially, for kenzo.
My point is we haven't had a bug free ROM with good signals, ever!
Not in any version of Android!!
I urge the developers to consider, even partnering up, for making a good and bug free "Marshmallow ROM", Nougat Rom before moving on to OREO
@Demon_sss @TheStrix @xyxx @GreekDragon @PhenomX1998 @psndna88 @abhishek987 @TheDarkStrix @Umang96 @jhenrique09 @AmolAmrit @wight554 @dadi11 @poad42 @O_dinochka @minz1 @Ashish94 @ValoXis @flar2 @rocknegi @srisurya95 @Sudeep Duhoon @EsromG5
@scrubjay55
I make no demands guys, but more people than just me will be obliged if this becomes something real!
Mr.Diligent said:
Why do we chase something that isn't even released for our device? What's the rush?
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Cuz, this is XDA, dude!
Bored of MIUI is the basis for discussion? I'm in support of all devs I'm happy the way they progressed starting from Marshmallow & now we have stable Nougat where as Xiaomi is abandoning older devices.
Regarding the network strength there's not a huge difference between MIUI & Custom roms imo.
You have two choices try taking this to the next level of Xiaomi executives or never buy MI devices.
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using Tapatalk
Umm, Oh...Kay....!!
VaibhavKumar07 said:
Bored of MIUI is the basis for discussion? I'm in support of all devs I'm happy the way they progressed starting from Marshmallow & now we have stable Nougat where as Xiaomi is abandoning older devices.
Regarding the network strength there's not a huge difference between MIUI & Custom roms imo.
You have two choices try taking this to the next level of Xiaomi executives or never buy MI devices.
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using Tapatalk
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1. The basis of this discussion is, actually, the love for stock Android. Not only we get bored of MiUi but also by using TouchWiz, Flyme etc. Okay!!
2. No we don't have stable ROMs yet, not really!!
3. It's strategy to abandon older devices that Xiaomi also follows, nothing odd about it!
So, in short,
I thank thou for your UNvaluable inputs here!!
I think AOSIP by shrisurya is almost complete nougat ROM with best signals and stability.RR,nitrogen,los are pretty strong ones too,so no problem in focusing on developing Oreo ones.just a rookie's thought.
Mr.Diligent said:
1. The basis of this discussion is, actually, the love for stock Android. Not only we get bored of MiUi but also by using TouchWiz, Flyme etc. Okay!!
2. No we don't have stable ROMs yet, not really!!
3. It's strategy to abandon older devices that Xiaomi also follows, nothing odd about it!
So, in short,
I thank thou for your UNvaluable inputs here!!
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I would rather ignore you at this point but let me answer :
> If you love stock android that's k but bored of MIUI? Do you have a life or just keep staring at your phone lmao, if you give valid reasons like performance, battery life etc that's acceptable.
> We don't have stable roms yet? all Nougat roms are stable for usage in real life i.e. Network, Battery life, No lags or FCs , Theme support, Security patches etc
> Are you talking about strategy with me? Kid, in this case a device that has millions of users and had success there's a lot more to expect in terms of software updates. Abandoning a device with such popularity just after a year is a terrible decision.
Mr.Diligent said:
2. No we don't have stable ROMs yet, not really!!
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Nougat ROMs are already plenty stable. Never experienced any bugs with the ROM I'm using for about 2 months now. Signal quality is the same with MIUI on mine. Using Desolation ROM by the way.
I think the 'Geek' in you is sleeping, you just need to wake him up and you will get the answer to your question.
This is positive post, No offence offered to anyone guys!!
Blueshark17 said:
I think AOSIP by shrisurya is almost complete nougat ROM with best signals and stability.RR,nitrogen,los are pretty strong ones too,so no problem in focusing on developing Oreo ones. Just a rookie's thought.
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Yeah 5.9 build of AoSIP is good for signals not much else though! None of the rest, i.e. including the newer version of the AoSIP, are even comparable with Global Stock Rom for kenzo!
bloodytolits said:
Nougat ROMs are already plenty stable. Never experienced any bugs with the ROM I'm using for about 2 months now. Signal quality is the same with MIUI on mine. Using Desolation ROM by the way.
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Okay, regarding the signal quality, no, it most unequivocally, isn't even as good as that of An MiUi Rom!
VaibhavKumar07 said:
I would rather ignore you at this point but let me answer :
> If you love stock android that's k but bored of MIUI? Do you have a life or just keep staring at your phone lmao, if you give valid reasons like performance, battery life etc that's acceptable.
> We don't have stable roms yet? all Nougat roms are stable for usage in real life i.e. Network, Battery life, No lags or FCs , Theme support, Security patches etc
> Are you talking about strategy with me? Kid, in this case a device that has millions of users and had success there's a lot more to expect in terms of software updates. Abandoning a device with such popularity just after a year is a terrible decision.
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You're aware that people have their own choices right, also most of us are here because, even if we don't hate/get bored of Miui, We at least don't like/prefer MiUi as much, which includes you too!
1. Also battery is the most....
You know what, I know you can't help me man!
I'm not interested in this stupid quarrel!
So, it's now an EOC with you Vaibhav!
Mr.Diligent said:
Yeah 5.9 build of AoSIP is good for signals not much else though! None of the rest, i.e. including the newer version of the AoSIP, are even comparable with Global Stock Rom for kenzo!
Okay, regarding the signal quality, no, it most unequivocally, isn't even as good as that of An MiUi Rom!
You're aware that people have their own choices right, also most of us are here because, even if we don't hate/get bored of Miui, We at least don't like/prefer MiUi as much, which includes you too!
1. Also battery is the most....
You know what, I know you can't help me man!
I'm not interested in this stupid quarrel!
So, it's now an EOC with you Vaibhav!
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Thread reported , you're just here to grab attention & get some likes.
On my Ignore list already.
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using Tapatalk
Off you go.....
VaibhavKumar07 said:
Thread reported, I'm just here to grab attention & get some likes.
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using Tapatalk
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Wait, wait, wait.... Do you do this more often?
Something tells me that you always say:
"Thread reported"!
Is this what you do? Do you ruin others' threads by engaging in pointless back to back comments?
Well I reported you as well!
Admin before removing my genuine thread, kindly check this guy out!
Mr.Diligent said:
Wait, wait, wait.... Do you do this more often?
Something tells me that you always say:
"Thread reported"!
Is this what you do? Do you ruin others' threads by engaging in pointless back to back comments?
Well I reported you as well!
Admin before removing my genuine thread, kindly check this guy out!
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To be fair, your thread is actually pointless/stupid. It's just ranting. You claim there are no stable Nougat, yet there are a lot here that says otherwise. Your definition of stable is suspect here. Probably, stable = perfect.
It's easy to check if signal strength really is better in MIUI. Flash MIUI, put your phone down somewhere then take note of the signal strength(dbm and asu not the signal bar) with several second intervals for several minutes(until you're satisfied) then do the same for the other ROM you want. Mine showed no difference. The only thing better with MIUI was camera quality.
I am using Nitrogen OS nougat for quite some time now, and I must say it's totally stable, never faced any problem till now. And I have even compared the dBm and asu with miui roms, and there's no difference practically, and there's no call drops or poor call quality issues also. You can definitely give it try, I don't know what else you mean by stable.
bloodytolits said:
To be fair, your thread is actually pointless/stupid. It's just ranting. You claim there are no stable Nougat, yet there are a lot here that says otherwise. Your definition of stable is suspect here. Probably, stable = perfect.
It's easy to check if signal strength really is better in MIUI. Flash MIUI, put your phone down somewhere then take note of the signal strength(dbm and asu not the signal bar) with several second intervals for several minutes(until you're satisfied) then do the same for the other ROM you want. Mine showed no difference. The only thing better with MIUI was camera quality.
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Try this mate with HDR+ on Gcam > MIUI cam https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/themes/google-camera-hdr-60fps-t3656675
Mr.Diligent said:
Hello Developers, fellow users. I am Sam and I'd like to point out something that has been happening everywhere for years but it gets ignored.
I've been using Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 since when it was released in India and I was a XDA member even before that! Previously I had a Samsung Galaxy flagship phone.
Guys, all we've been doing is chasing our tails. Let me tell you why I say this. It starts with using MiUi and getting bored, then eventually Stock Android/AOSP ROMs are made (Of course because of the hard work the developers put in). We use them, they work really good, and their bugs are fewer.
However, as soon as there's a "Newer Version" of Android released, everthing else is left in the dust and forgotten!
Here's what I want to ask anyone and everyone who would answer it......
Why do we chase something that isn't even released for our device? What's the rush?
It started with Marshmallow release.
There were good lollipop ROMs and Marshmallow did not come out for our device, but nevertheless, the process started. Okay, but by the time when some good Marshmallow ROMs were being made, Nougat gets released and all hell breaks loose, "AGAIN"!!! Once more, the process started. And again on the verge of having some good Nougat ROMs, "Oreo is released"? Please see the pattern here!!
Now, we know that Nougat might never be made available, officially, for kenzo.
My point is we haven't had a bug free ROM with good signals, ever!
Not in any version of Android!!
I urge the developers to consider, even partnering up, for making a good and bug free "Marshmallow ROM", Nougat Rom before moving on to OREO
@Demon_sss @TheStrix @xyxx @GreekDragon @PhenomX1998 @psndna88 @abhishek987 @TheDarkStrix @Umang96 @jhenrique09 @AmolAmrit @wight554 @dadi11 @poad42 @O_dinochka @minz1 @Ashish94 @ValoXis @flar2 @rocknegi @srisurya95 @Sudeep Duhoon @EsromG5
@scrubjay55
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Mr.Diligent said:
I make no demands guys, but more people than just me will be obliged if this becomes something real!
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But you are being demanding. You said yourself, you have been a member here for a long time. So why not do it yourself? Contribute instead of expecting others to do it for you. After all, that IS what this site is for. Developers.
Thread closed.
Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
As italian, i'm totally afree with you...i just want the MIUI features and the 20 LTE band.
timeless241285 said:
Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
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But still, why do you need Miui so badly when you have stock Android ? Because of special features like dt2w and so ? That will come here also when custom kernel arrive.
NITRO_100 said:
But still, why do you need Miui so badly when you have stock Android ? Because of special features like dt2w and so ? That will come here also when custom kernel arrive.
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MIUI has an optimisation than stock Android hasn't. RAM cleaner on the Recent tabs, Security Center, Built-in call recording, sound recorder, dual space (that for dual SIM it's very important) and many others and features..
I guess when kernel source is available developer will be able to port miui regardless of band and any other limitations..
jack_21 said:
MIUI has an optimisation than stock Android hasn't. RAM cleaner on the Recent tabs, Security Center, Built-in call recording, sound recorder, dual space (that for dual SIM it's very important) and many others and features..
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Miui has very aggressive optimization that I hated, because many apps had misbehaved, I always turn that off. Ram cleaner is nonsense but you have it in stock android too. The options in security center, call recording, sound recorder can be achieved by 3rd party apps. Dual space is like 2nd account.
Don't get me wrong, I generally like miui but there isn't any option that I miss, and multitasking is way better in stock android, apps doesn't get killed after 10 minutes.
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
IamSubhodeep said:
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
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Stop asking for miui on an Android stock phone. Go for the mi5x instead , i know it lacks the B20 but life is hard.:good:
jlmcr87 said:
Stop asking for miui on an Android stock phone. Go for the mi5x instead , i know it lacks the B20 but life is hard.:good:
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We don't come on the XDA for philosophy classes. :|
I really hope that we'll be able to run MIUI on this device.
I already own a Mi A1.
IamSubhodeep said:
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
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I guess that was meant for me (next time pls quote me). Well I have my opinion an I feel free to share it, as you share yours which I appreciate.
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android. It's just the cosmetics that bothers you. You knew that this phone is pure android, you knew that it has 2 partitions and you should have researched if there is miui rom/port available before you purchased it. Or better, you should purchased it when miui rom/port eventually will be available. And there are good phones from Xiaomi (global ones) even cheaper than this with Miui 9.
Btw, I believe someone (maybe you) will port miui after xiaomi release kernel source, but then we would be allready on Oreo.
NITRO_100 said:
I guess that was meant for me (next time pls quote me). Well I have my opinion an I feel free to share it, as you share yours which I appreciate.
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android. It's just the cosmetics that bothers you. You knew that this phone is pure android, you knew that it has 2 partitions and you should have researched if there is miui rom/port available before you purchased it. Or better, you should purchased it when miui rom/port eventually will be available. And there are good phones from Xiaomi (global ones) even cheaper than this with Miui 9.
Btw, I believe someone (maybe you) will port miui after xiaomi release kernel source, but then we would be allready on Oreo.
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It was not meant for you specifically. I have seen people bashing the MIUI users with the same comment on multiple forums.
And about porting, I know nothing about it. Waiting for you people to do that. I'll be grateful.
NITRO_100 said:
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android.
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Ok, then show me how can I achieve built in XiaomiAccount, Mi Cloud/Gallery, Mi App store, Xiaomi Notes, etc...
I don't care about the bells and whistles if these services working good!
And that fine grained permission management would be good, not that simple dull one from stock android.
Upo_hu said:
Ok, then show me how can I achieve built in XiaomiAccount, Mi Cloud/Gallery, Mi App store, Xiaomi Notes, etc...
I don't care about the bells and whistles if these services working good!
And that fine grained permission management would be good, not that simple dull one from stock android.
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And how is all that different then Google account, drive, photos, play store, keep which all are working great if not better then miui (especially the web versions) ? As I said, there is nothing in miui that can't be replaced. And what do you mean by dull permission management ?
And there are 2 ways of how you can achieve that: wait till xiaomi release kernel source and try to port miui rom, or get a global version (if you are in Europe) of some other Xiaomi device.
timeless241285 said:
Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
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Although I am not sure but I think that using Qualcomm Flash Tools you should be able to install Mi 5X ROM with Mi 5X partition table and get it up and running, but if these devices aren't that similar inside then you can end up with a hard brick. After flashing using QFIL you might have to flash Mi A1 modem for A1 band support...
PS: Don't do this and backup EFS and other critical partitions if you decide to do it anyway
But if we flash (on one of the a/b partition so you can set active the other in case you have make disaster) only the system and boot partition from Mi 5x fastboot official room, it may be enough?
Of course you will have to wipe data...
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And there are 2 ways of how you can achieve that: wait till xiaomi release kernel source and try to port miui rom, or get a global version (if you are in Europe) of some other Xiaomi device.
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+1
The reason why I bought this phone is because I didn't want to throw 800e on Pixel, and I wanted a cheap phone with a pure android.This thing is a real successor of the Nexus line.
There are so many global versions of xiaomi devices outhere, that there is no need for this phone if all you want is a miui.But you can always try to port it. That's the beauty of development.
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Frankly, I don't know what is wrong for asking. Usually so called real technical people will tell people off if you want this why don't you buy that kind of argument. I see that the one that asks this question has nothing wrong. Everyone of us having such experience when we buy something from the market, we realise that there is a gap in functionality or even down the aesthetic feels, gestures or even some of the commands arrangement that looks stupid....etc, therefore, we asked for something we felt that has done very well, and wish that it could be done in this. If we always have to put up with what is in the box, we don't give the chance for the company to improve, and you ultimately don't help to improve the products.
After reading information from different forums, sometimes I felt sorry for those people who scoffed at people. Maybe you are protecting the brands, or protecting somethings that you feel so much attached to and disregard other people.
May I suggest that if you could not offer a better solutions, or if you think that this is not worth to do it. Just keep quiet and let other people try to answer. Or if you would like to encourage it, such as this example, a simple words like "I like the idea too!" will probably help. Words such as "No way there will be MIUI on Stock Android Phone...etc." If you believe so much about no way, would you willing to bet your neck on your chopping board? With enough incentives, someone will come out with a solution.
Sorry if I sound harsh, but this is how innovation and revolution comes about.
There is nothing wrong with asking. But there is everything wrong with asking the same question every day, in every section and always starting a new topic. You got the answer already, "currently not possible, if you want MIUI, but a device with MIUI". One would expect, that guys wanting MIUI will be satisfied, but no. They'll just create a new topic and ask the same question over and over again. If someone ports MIUI to A1, I'm pretty sure that there will be a proper topic and announcment for that.
Btw. words like "I want it too" can maybe help you to find similarly frustrated people, but that's it. Xiaomi won't read it. Google will not read it. Developers don't care, if they'll do it, it won't be because you want it (donation might be motivating though). Just look at Xposed for Nougat or Oreo topics, hundreds of useless posts like "waiting for an update..".
I would understand negative reactions if this thread would request Xiaomi to replace Android Stock with MIUI on all Mi A1 models for good! But it's addressed to developers on this forum and you'll loose nothing if someone will work on it. Why would you comment against it if you don't like or need MIUI on your phone?... This is beyond my understanding, but sadly the internet is full of this kind of thinking.
Dual app is a feature you can not have it in Stock as fully operational as in MIUI. Some apps (like FB Messenger) will not get push notifications on Stock for cloned apps.
You can use Second Space with one account and you don't have a replacement for this feature for now.
Permission Management is far more complex than even any Xposed module.
China build have Automated Task which again, no module could replace it, as for example: you can schedule to disable just vibrations and nothing else on a specific time of the day.
Notifications synced online.
Calculator with any kind of functions.
Call Recording.
One Hand Mode accessed by swiping from Home button to the left or right. You don't have to loose other functions using different shortcuts. (Double tap is just not efficient).
You have Wallpaper Carousel for your Lockscreen.
You can combine multiple themes to create your best appearance. Stock will never be as beautiful as MIUI can be, but that implies you have some taste for design and art.
All of this are BUILT IN and no root needed or any additional work!
I'm sure I have missed some other details, but when you love MIUI, you just need it, without any explanations. And a lot of Xiaomi phones doesn't have band 20 (800 Mhz) within this price range and specs.
Or maybe you just like to have them both available for your phone with Stock as official. Why's that wrong? ...
Absolutely agree! And additionally, all my data syced to mi cloud, just 1 click to restore. And it is unusable on android one. I too would buy a Mi 5x with B20 or A1 with miui!
Hey there,
Most of you have noticed there is no to very low development for our devices.
For what is worth, there is development, and it is awesome.
We have a very nice device and with great kernel I can assure you that you will be amazed by the performances and battery life for this device.
*I'm currently testing a custom kernel (Hex), and even if it's still a bit of a pain to flash it (twrp need to be installed on one partition and kernel on the other "side") so you need a PC to get it flashed.
So. Please be a bit patient and it will be awesomely rewarded
I wrote this post to all fearing no dev. For the mia2, there is, and damn it's DDucking awesome
Have a nice day!
Regards,
H.
Thanks :good::good:
Wow! It's good to know this,
I would like to see the growing number on the development for this device to the point like other popular device such as my old Redmi Note 4 (its running awesome when installed LOS Oreo). The thing is this A/B partition on MiA2 seems to be complicated and have a high risk if you do wrong from my perspective. With that reason I still keep my phone as it is for now, looking forward for more development and tweaks tho
mark.dx said:
I would like to see the growing number on the development for this device to the point like other popular device such as my old Redmi Note 4 (its running awesome when installed LOS Oreo). The thing is this A/B partition on MiA2 seems to be complicated and have a high risk if you do wrong from my perspective. With that reason I still keep my phone as it is for now, looking forward for more development and tweaks tho
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Yes, me too, even just try to unlock and just enable camera2api without root can turn in a briked device. So i will wait for an oficial TWRP that don´t transform my A2 in to a brick. like this user:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77825415&postcount=13
ki69 said:
Yes, me to even just try to unlock and just enable camera2api without root can tur in a briked device. So i will wait for an oficial TWRP that don´t transform my A2 in to a brick. like this user:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77825415&postcount=13
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Mmh, it's definitely way too early to use any tool. God knows what the tool will do (it's just an automated batch based on ADB/fastboot aka. Platform tools) ?
Again, it's currently a pain to flash anything but at least, it's now 100% stable (if manually flashed with correct ADB (last) version.
?
Just a question of time that everything goes to the "noob-world" <- no offense we, just another way to say "bulletproof secure"
I got mine converted to Mi 6X (wayne) and I have only A partition slot. A/B it's ****. I also earned some internal storage space (around 4 Gigs) by doing this. I flashed back AEX and all is good! There is also a fixed vendor coming up which will allow to run every GSI image out-of-the-box without any bugs, thanks to Manish!
If you want guys, I can make a step by step guide on how to root and use magisk, substraum and gcam
It is very easy in my opinion, can be done in 5 minutes
I think that could be actually great. It took me some times to harvest all Infos and find a way which was making some sense. No rant on devs. But a clear way step by step would be great. At least to answer the 2000 message I get on "how-to do it" ????
For substratum not needs always root....Andromeda + substratum works very fine on stock devices(Andromeda cost is very small)
A2 certainly needs an official twrp,first than all....perhaps it will come soon, the device is still new...
mark.dx said:
The thing is this A/B partition on MiA2 seems to be complicated and have a high risk if you do wrong from my perspective.
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It was an issue in the past, but now that there's wide support for the Google Pixel (which even has official LOS) things just got a lot easier. A/B is a non-issue for the end-user, the developer does need to check how things are done in the Pixel (which takes valuable time), but shouldn't be a deal breaker as everything is already public.
IMHO the real issue is the fact the Mi A2 wasn't really that popular to begin with (among the kind of enthusiasts that would only ever run a custom ROM, that is). When it launched, those enthusiasts preferred the whyred (which already had great support, namely official LOS). Shortly after, Poco happened.
I honestly think this device will be like most others, custom ROMs will either come straight from GSI (when vendor is fixed) or only after the Android One support ends (aka. when we'll be pressed to do something).
It's not too bad at all, it's just slightly disappointing because (1) Xiaomi timed their product releases poorly, not giving enough information to make an informed purchase; and (2) we kinda of expected a little more from Android One than to be grounded to stock or (now) a GSI.
At the end of the day it is up to us (everyone in this community) to do something about it (ie. start working on the device instead of expecting someone else to pick that job). Harsh words, but true nonetheless.
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It was an issue in the past, but now that there's wide support for the Google Pixel (which even has official LOS) things just got a lot easier. A/B is a non-issue for the end-user, the developer does need to check how things are done in the Pixel (which takes valuable time), but shouldn't be a deal breaker as everything is already public.
IMHO the real issue is the fact the Mi A2 wasn't really that popular to begin with (among the kind of enthusiasts that would only ever run a custom ROM, that is). When it launched, those enthusiasts preferred the whyred (which already had great support, namely official LOS). Shortly after, Poco happened.
I honestly think this device will be like most others, custom ROMs will either come straight from GSI (when vendor is fixed) or only after the Android One support ends (aka. when we'll be pressed to do something).
It's not too bad at all, it's just slightly disappointing because (1) Xiaomi timed their product releases poorly, not giving enough information to make an informed purchase; and (2) we kinda of expected a little more from Android One than to be grounded to stock or (now) a GSI.
At the end of the day it is up to us (everyone in this community) to do something about it (ie. start working on the device instead of expecting someone else to pick that job). Harsh words, but true nonetheless.
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This should be stickied somewhere, this is exactly what happened and what needs to be done. True words
by any chance will this work with mi 6x?
mugentech said:
by any chance will this work with mi 6x?
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Some have tried, it doesn't unfortunately ?
Aww. Was hoping it would work on 6x since it's faster atm
Ähm.. mia2 + Hex Kernel is soooo faster than mi6xx ? and 6-7h of SOT on wifi (5-6h on 4g)
Again, a bit of patience, it will be all good. It is already for motivated flashers
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Ähm.. mia2 + Hex Kernel is soooo faster than mi6xx and 6-7h of SOT on wifi (5-6h on 4g)
Again, a bit of patience, it will be all good. It is already for motivated flashers
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with this statement, will not buy 6x and wait for A2
saves me trouble of flashing PE on 6x
:fingers-crossed:
dodjob said:
Ähm.. mia2 + Hex Kernel is soooo faster than mi6xx and 6-7h of SOT on wifi (5-6h on 4g)
Again, a bit of patience, it will be all good. It is already for motivated flashers
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Is the Hex kernel being done in collaboration with the X-team?
Their extreme kernel for the Mi A1 is crazy good.
Can you point me to the kernel file? I would like to test and report
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It was an issue in the past, but now that there's wide support for the Google Pixel (which even has official LOS) things just got a lot easier. A/B is a non-issue for the end-user, the developer does need to check how things are done in the Pixel (which takes valuable time), but shouldn't be a deal breaker as everything is already public.
IMHO the real issue is the fact the Mi A2 wasn't really that popular to begin with (among the kind of enthusiasts that would only ever run a custom ROM, that is). When it launched, those enthusiasts preferred the whyred (which already had great support, namely official LOS). Shortly after, Poco happened.
I honestly think this device will be like most others, custom ROMs will either come straight from GSI (when vendor is fixed) or only after the Android One support ends (aka. when we'll be pressed to do something).
It's not too bad at all, it's just slightly disappointing because (1) Xiaomi timed their product releases poorly, not giving enough information to make an informed purchase; and (2) we kinda of expected a little more from Android One than to be grounded to stock or (now) a GSI.
At the end of the day it is up to us (everyone in this community) to do something about it (ie. start working on the device instead of expecting someone else to pick that job). Harsh words, but true nonetheless.
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I agree with what you said. Its just unfortunate that this device got a lot of bugs despite its being an Android One phone. I'm sitting here just waiting for October update or Android Pie update so I can use my device without worries.
This is not as question, but as discussion about our phone official support. And yes Mi A1 won't get Android Q:crying: According to Google answer Pixel/Android One phone receive at least 18 month for OS upgrade support. And as today (March 2019) it's already passed. It's about OS upgrades. Now about security updates. According to Google in past the Android One should have at least 3 years security updates support. But on October 2018 Google gave an official mandate about taking 2 years of security updates for popular Android phones (later in December 2018 Google change rules for Android One as well to 2 years). But since Xiaomi doesn't really care about Mi A1, it shows that the end of support is near (maybe 1 or 2 months).
Links:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/724ij3/android_one_update_period_18_vs_24_months_and_who/
https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/18019356/android-security-update-mandate-google-contract
https://www.indiatoday.in/technolog...e-is-deleted-from-its-site-1418261-2018-12-27
Time to move to a custom ROM
At least, means it will get no less than 18 months new OS releases.
On the other side, i think it will sure get the new ''whatever-iteration-may-have'' Q version of android because there will be no major difference in OS and will be easy enough for developers to adapt.
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At least, means it will get no less than 18 months new OS releases.
On the other side, i think it will sure get the new ''whatever-iteration-may-have'' Q version of android because there will be no major difference in OS and will be easy enough for developers to adapt.
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Not sure for it. 18 months has passed just now. I don't have any hopes for xiaomi to make new update, just because they already showed how much quality they put in upgrate of phone (Android pie for exp.) Making android Q doesn't makes them any profit. And in their interest to get customers buy new devices.
Skoll91 said:
Time to move to a custom ROM
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Yep. It is. There are already new march security update out. Customs get it almost instantly. While official there's no any guarantee to even get any further updates at all.
I'm already on LOS. 9.0 push me to LOS 15.1 and I'm sure I will never come back to stock.
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I'm already on LOS. 9.0 push me to LOS 15.1 and I'm sure I will never come back to stock.
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I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?
Does anyone have a solid official confirmation from Xiaomi that they won't be continuing to support the Mi A1 in terms of major OS updates? I'm thinking about moving to a custom ROM but I want to ensure that there won't be any major official updates coming anymore.
caolan said:
I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?
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you miss a lot, but not need per se a custom rom, is enough root + all the goodies will come with root and customization.
force doze, custom kernel, magisk modules, google camera and so on.
caolan said:
I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?
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To others, there is a lot. But to me, there is only 1 thing: stock doesn't support Ex-fat sd cards, and the only kernel that offer true Ex-fat support is custom roms only. On stock 8.1 I can live with a Magisk module that support Exfat but 9.0 is the main reason I jumped ship.
The unofficial los 16 by flex is an amazing rom don't let the unofficial bit put you off, it's the perfect daily driver, more customisation than stock but not ott like some roms
I am happy to have gotten 2 major updates, previously at this price point we would have been lucky to get 1, so android 1 program has increased value with updates. I was hoping to get 3 years of security updates, so disappointed Google has changed the requirement, but perhaps Xiaomi will honour the expectations when the device was released.
Even at 2 years I would still have bought the phone, but annoyed if it's changed after purchase.
I currently use Stock unrooted Rom, the first phone I haven't at least rooted, but I am sure the community will keep the phone going for another couple of years at least.
I bough this phone on Nov 2017 (if note mistaken) and I'm quite satisfy with the update from Nougat to Pie. But if you buy the phone later than that you probably feel not enough update (because you only receive Oreo to Pie update) but I believe you have received price drop compare to the initial release.
I prefer stable rather than updated OS. This device is already more than 1 year and new android OS will optimize new hardware, smartphone hardware obsolete very fast compare to PC or other device. There's no other choice if you want to optimize your phone to the latest android OS except buying new phone. I like to stay to the stock rom (with Magisk of course) till the end just to get full experience of Android One. I'm not gonna denied that Android One is a bit mess up either from manufacture side and Google itself. I will probably buy Android One device again in the future (few years from now) and see how much Android One will improve.
Feriol said:
... I currently use Stock unrooted Rom, the first phone I haven't at least rooted, but I am sure the community will keep the phone going for another couple of years at least. ...
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Same here, first ever un-touched stock. I'm still satisfied with this mid-low budget phone and that the OS is (pretty) free from "customization".
It is (was) a good bang for the buck when bought in Nov. -17 and still does it's job.
Features like GCam and similar were never promised or supported so that wasn't an issue for me nor a reason to root...
If we could get Lineage OS for Redmi 7a and a good working GCAM then this phone for 6400(INR)/90$ is absolute amazing for an average person as daily driver.
As long as you're not a hardcore gamer. This is good enough for You.
Is there any dev working on it?
keenofhiphop said:
Hello,
waiting for my model currently
As to the question about when there will be custom roms - the phone was announced only months ago and we will need to wait until it spreads in usage to someone able to develop and maintain custom roms for it. Or some developer not in possession of the device does it, but these projects - in my experience - often lack quality and support.
However the device is globally available (afaik) and extremely attractive with its low price tag while overall good specs, so it's gotta be only a matter of (imo short) time until the userbase has grown so much that some people will put together something...
And yes, I also like to see some roms on it for data security reasons - surely not the only one .
P.S.: watch this if you want to know why it is so cheap
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Can only repeat.
I strolled through a russian forum a while back, they seemed to have a few things up like TWRP, but no sight of a ROM.
Unfortunately I don't know where the chinese forums are at but may take a look at chinese official mi forum later.
keenofhiphop said:
Can only repeat.
I strolled through a russian forum a while back, they seemed to have a few things up like TWRP, but no sight of a ROM.
Unfortunately I don't know where the chinese forums are at but may take a look at chinese official mi forum later.
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Thank YOU!