This is not as question, but as discussion about our phone official support. And yes Mi A1 won't get Android Q:crying: According to Google answer Pixel/Android One phone receive at least 18 month for OS upgrade support. And as today (March 2019) it's already passed. It's about OS upgrades. Now about security updates. According to Google in past the Android One should have at least 3 years security updates support. But on October 2018 Google gave an official mandate about taking 2 years of security updates for popular Android phones (later in December 2018 Google change rules for Android One as well to 2 years). But since Xiaomi doesn't really care about Mi A1, it shows that the end of support is near (maybe 1 or 2 months).
Links:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/724ij3/android_one_update_period_18_vs_24_months_and_who/
https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/18019356/android-security-update-mandate-google-contract
https://www.indiatoday.in/technolog...e-is-deleted-from-its-site-1418261-2018-12-27
Time to move to a custom ROM
At least, means it will get no less than 18 months new OS releases.
On the other side, i think it will sure get the new ''whatever-iteration-may-have'' Q version of android because there will be no major difference in OS and will be easy enough for developers to adapt.
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At least, means it will get no less than 18 months new OS releases.
On the other side, i think it will sure get the new ''whatever-iteration-may-have'' Q version of android because there will be no major difference in OS and will be easy enough for developers to adapt.
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Not sure for it. 18 months has passed just now. I don't have any hopes for xiaomi to make new update, just because they already showed how much quality they put in upgrate of phone (Android pie for exp.) Making android Q doesn't makes them any profit. And in their interest to get customers buy new devices.
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Yep. It is. There are already new march security update out. Customs get it almost instantly. While official there's no any guarantee to even get any further updates at all.
I'm already on LOS. 9.0 push me to LOS 15.1 and I'm sure I will never come back to stock.
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I'm already on LOS. 9.0 push me to LOS 15.1 and I'm sure I will never come back to stock.
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I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?
Does anyone have a solid official confirmation from Xiaomi that they won't be continuing to support the Mi A1 in terms of major OS updates? I'm thinking about moving to a custom ROM but I want to ensure that there won't be any major official updates coming anymore.
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I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?
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you miss a lot, but not need per se a custom rom, is enough root + all the goodies will come with root and customization.
force doze, custom kernel, magisk modules, google camera and so on.
caolan said:
I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?
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To others, there is a lot. But to me, there is only 1 thing: stock doesn't support Ex-fat sd cards, and the only kernel that offer true Ex-fat support is custom roms only. On stock 8.1 I can live with a Magisk module that support Exfat but 9.0 is the main reason I jumped ship.
The unofficial los 16 by flex is an amazing rom don't let the unofficial bit put you off, it's the perfect daily driver, more customisation than stock but not ott like some roms
I am happy to have gotten 2 major updates, previously at this price point we would have been lucky to get 1, so android 1 program has increased value with updates. I was hoping to get 3 years of security updates, so disappointed Google has changed the requirement, but perhaps Xiaomi will honour the expectations when the device was released.
Even at 2 years I would still have bought the phone, but annoyed if it's changed after purchase.
I currently use Stock unrooted Rom, the first phone I haven't at least rooted, but I am sure the community will keep the phone going for another couple of years at least.
I bough this phone on Nov 2017 (if note mistaken) and I'm quite satisfy with the update from Nougat to Pie. But if you buy the phone later than that you probably feel not enough update (because you only receive Oreo to Pie update) but I believe you have received price drop compare to the initial release.
I prefer stable rather than updated OS. This device is already more than 1 year and new android OS will optimize new hardware, smartphone hardware obsolete very fast compare to PC or other device. There's no other choice if you want to optimize your phone to the latest android OS except buying new phone. I like to stay to the stock rom (with Magisk of course) till the end just to get full experience of Android One. I'm not gonna denied that Android One is a bit mess up either from manufacture side and Google itself. I will probably buy Android One device again in the future (few years from now) and see how much Android One will improve.
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... I currently use Stock unrooted Rom, the first phone I haven't at least rooted, but I am sure the community will keep the phone going for another couple of years at least. ...
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Same here, first ever un-touched stock. I'm still satisfied with this mid-low budget phone and that the OS is (pretty) free from "customization".
It is (was) a good bang for the buck when bought in Nov. -17 and still does it's job.
Features like GCam and similar were never promised or supported so that wasn't an issue for me nor a reason to root...
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I am about to get a Axon 7 within a week and I am curious to know which rom(s) are useful for everyday usage aka daily driver rom.
There are tons and I am all confused about the matter.
The custom ROM support for this device isn't great, but it does have all the popular ones like ResurrectionRemix, LineageOS, AICP and AospExtended. My favourite at the moment is DARK ROM which is basically LOS 14.1 with some additional modifications; like the UI sounds from the Google Pixel, OMS theming support and unlocking after boot without PIN number. Once LOS 15 (8.0 Oreo) is released I will switch to that and use it as my daily-driver until the other custom ROM's also upgrade to Oreo.
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The custom ROM support for this device isn't great, but it does have all the popular ones like ResurrectionRemix, LineageOS, AICP and AospExtended. My favourite at the moment is DARK ROM which is basically LOS 14.1 with some additional modifications; like the UI sounds from the Google Pixel, OMS theming support and unlocking after boot without PIN number. Once LOS 15 (8.0 Oreo) is released I will switch to that and use it as my daily-driver until the other custom ROM's also upgrade to Oreo.
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Thank you for the reply.
It's a bit of shame that the support isn't there since this phone is really amazing.
Out of all roms you mentioned which one is the most stable and less "bloated" one?
I have no problem with stock but there is some issues that I am wondering if custom roms have fixed, like dropped calls(think it's software that messes with signal, never happened before) and random low volume.
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Thank you for the reply.
It's a bit of shame that the support isn't there since this phone is really amazing.
Out of all roms you mentioned which one is the most stable and less "bloated" one?
I have no problem with stock but there is some issues that I am wondering if custom roms have fixed, like dropped calls(think it's software that messes with signal, never happened before) and random low volume.
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Yeah, it's unfortunate that there isn't better support for this phone. I didn't realise when I bought it about a month ago that the situation was like this. Even my ZUK Z2 had a better community behind it which surprises me.
The most stable and least bloated ROM is definitely LineageOS, as that's the closest you can get to stock Android in the form of custom ROM's with just a few additional mods. DARK ROM as I mentioned before is just LineageOS with some extra enhancements. Both are stable but if you're after an officially-supported ROM with proper OTA updates, then LineageOS is the best option. I would recommend flashing Magisk v14.0 afterwards if you're interested in root support.
Over the last few months, ROM teams began feature locking and doing final Nougat builds to start work on Oreo. This period always leaves us dry for a time being. I've seen dry spells like this since KitKat. I anticipate a wave of ROMs in the coming months. Until then, there is a fine selection of ROMs to choose from. I do agree that the selection is a bit sparse compared to other phones. There is just enough to satisfy a flashaholics urge to tinker.
Let's hope the coming surge is better than the last.
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Yeah, it's unfortunate that there isn't better support for this phone. I didn't realise when I bought it about a month ago that the situation was like this. Even my ZUK Z2 had a better community behind it which surprises me.
The most stable and least bloated ROM is definitely LineageOS, as that's the closest you can get to stock Android in the form of custom ROM's with just a few additional mods. DARK ROM as I mentioned before is just LineageOS with some extra enhancements. Both are stable but if you're after an officially-supported ROM with proper OTA updates, then LineageOS is the best option. I would recommend flashing Magisk v14.0 afterwards if you're interested in root support.
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I guess I will be using LineageOS, I am just too excited with this phone don't want to spoil myself and brick.
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Over the last few months, ROM teams began feature locking and doing final Nougat builds to start work on Oreo. This period always leaves us dry for a time being. I've seen dry spells like this since KitKat. I anticipate a wave of ROMs in the coming months. Until then, there is a fine selection of ROMs to choose from. I do agree that the selection is a bit sparse compared to other phones. There is just enough to satisfy a flashaholics urge to tinker.
Let's hope the coming surge is better than the last.
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I am not a flashaholic but I know that most fixes are always done in custom roms or they optimize battery stuff, user experience and the ability to have custom kernel and schedulers are always welcome.
Cablespider said:
Over the last few months, ROM teams began feature locking and doing final Nougat builds to start work on Oreo. This period always leaves us dry for a time being. I've seen dry spells like this since KitKat. I anticipate a wave of ROMs in the coming months.
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Good point. I keep forgetting the fact that most of the ROM teams are working on their final builds of Nougat and beginning progress with Oreo. At the moment it does feel like there is a slight lack of development, but like you said there is still a decent selection to choose from. (Lineage, AEX, AICP, RR, etc.) I did expect LineageOS 15 to have arrived already after seeing the screenshots and estimate of 1-3 days in the development thread, but that was of course 3 weeks ago and unfortunately it ended up getting delayed quite substantially. (I'm sure our patience will be rewarded though, if it means a more stable first release!)
The next few months should be exciting and i'm definitely looking forward to it, but for the moment it is a difficult time for us 'flashaholics' awaiting the initial builds of Oreo. I should probably indulge myself in another hobby rather than obsessing about when Android 8.0 will arrive on the Axon 7.
You're not alone. I look forward to testing and whatnot. I hope this phone can taking a beating like my beloved LG G3 did. RIP little buddy.
What guide should I look at to install custom rom?
I got a ZTE Axon7 A2017G
Also just noticed with stock rom playing games really drains the battery fast, REALLY fast. Every 3rd min is a 1%.
Another funny thing I noticed is that with stock rom if I press a folder and then exit the folder and then press again, the whole launcher crashes and restarts.
Oh and I noticed that the wifi connection isn't stable.
I don't get that behaviour with my A2017G. What ROM is it on ? Mine is Nougat B04 (AU).
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i don't get that behaviour with my a2017g. What rom is it on ? Mine is nougat b04 (au).
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zte a2017gv1.2.0b02
Also I am curious to know. How do I gain back fastboot?(FIXED THIS)
So I am curious about roms/kernels.
I want to try a rom/kernel but I have been seeing there are a few roms that have something called "callbug" where the speakers make noise when a call is going on and when answering the mics are muted or call will be interrupted, no idea tbh.
So I would like to avoid a rom with such bug.
The Note 8.0 is an old device, but it is irreplaceable to me (excluding $1200+ tablets/laptops). I updated it to AOSP KitKat last year, but it was unusable.
Wouldn't Android 8.1 and Go make it feel like new again? Go was made for even less powerful devices than it.
Just had a random thought I had.
This would be awesome.
The note is a really good niche device, but I think there's finally a good replacement in the form of an iPad Pro + Apple Pencil for about $500.
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The Note 8.0 is an old device, but it is irreplaceable to me (excluding $1200+ tablets/laptops). I updated it to AOSP KitKat last year, but it was unusable.
Wouldn't Android 8.1 and Go make it feel like new again? Go was made for even less powerful devices than it.
Just had a random thought I had.
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Major downgrade in my opinion. Tried custom firmwares, and found stock is best. Just customised my stock to be better for user experience, and am happy with things working 100% as if out of the box.
yes i hope so...Android oreo go is awesome...new OS with minimum requirement...i think for now it's still hard to develop...
Any luck with a build?
Guess that's a no
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Woot woot
Our guy @Travisholt92 has made a few posts regarding his intent to get Pie for the K20 Plus, with a possibility of skipping porting Pie altogether to get a working ROM on Android 10. But as far as I know he needs to wait for some official releases on similar devices in order to build something that'll work on the K20. Plus some set backs have caused delays needing some equipment to build and test the ROM, esp with 10 requiring Treble compatibility. So, couple that with waning activity on here and people switching to other phones, we may never see P or Q on this K.
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Our guy @Travisholt92 has made a few posts regarding his intent to get Pie for the K20 Plus, with a possibility of skipping porting Pie altogether to get a working ROM on Android 10. But as far as I know he needs to wait for some official releases on similar devices in order to build something that'll work on the K20. Plus some set backs have caused delays needing some equipment to build and test the ROM, esp with 10 requiring Treble compatibility. So, couple that with waning activity on here and people switching to other phones, we may never see P or Q on this K.
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Once I order a back camera and H flex ribbon for the rear speaker. I can start working on this device again. Lately I've been working on the Stylo 3 plus which is in the same product family
Project update?
Is there any updates on the project? I hope we see most features working..
Last rom upgrade had a lot of missing features
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Is there any updates on the project? I hope we see most features working..
Last rom upgrade had a lot of missing features
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I wouldn't hold my breath for a Pie ROM for the K20. I'm pretty sure Travisholt92, the last remaining developer on these 'rums, has either moved on to another device or is working on porting Android 10, or both.
I'm in a position where I could trade in my Oneplus 6T for a 9T.I like the 9T for it's cameras,bigger battery, fingerprint and feel it would be a useful trade for me, but.
Oneplus is so good with OTAs and open betas
I would probably miss that if I moved
What's Xiaomi like for updates ?
Specifically ,are there any Beta programs
Read somewhere they've stopped global betas
So then you only have something like quarterly updates,
Is that correct ?
I'd flash the eu Version (has no bloatware) and they push weekly updates
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I'm in a position where I could trade in my Oneplus 6T for a 9T.I like the 9T for it's cameras,bigger battery, fingerprint and feel it would be a useful trade for me, but.
Oneplus is so good with OTAs and open betas
I would probably miss that if I moved
What's Xiaomi like for updates ?
Specifically ,are there any Beta programs
Read somewhere they've stopped global betas
So then you only have something like quarterly updates,
Is that correct ?
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China beta updates every week and xiaomi.eu debloats It and adds language support, so of you're confortable with modding (you don't lose your warranty of you unlock the bootloader) and want a taste of MIUI, you can use Xiaomi.eu beta ROM (most certainly First build Will come out tomorrow morning)
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China beta updates every week and xiaomi.eu debloats It and adds language support, so of you're confortable with modding (you don't lose your warranty of you unlock the bootloader) and want a taste of MIUI, you can use Xiaomi.eu beta ROM (most certainly First build Will come out tomorrow morning)
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Seems like the best option alrite,been hearing good things about them,little bit more effort though but worth considering.
manus31 said:
Seems like the best option alrite,been hearing good things about them,little bit more effort though but worth considering.
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Yes, unfortunely this Is the worst thing about Xiaomi, software, that's One of the reasons why It Is so cheap, luckily enough there are plenty of devs willing ti build custom ROMs and patch GSI images for Xiaomi devices
there is no xeu beta rom for k20/mi9t. only stable.
and there is for k20pro/mi9t pro. i am also little disappointed , but even if xiaomi wil stop global beta program, why there are beta roms for others for example mi9se, as i metion already k20pro, why no for me 9t/k20
I'm about 2 years into my ownership of Moto G7, and have yet to root or install any custom ROM, so I'm running the latest OTA update of Android 10. In recent weeks, I'm really starting to notice a big slow down. So looking for quick and honest advice: will it be worth the time and effort to root and flash a custom ROM? Will that noticeably improve my performance and make me happy continuing to use this phone for a while? What's the best custom ROM for this phone right now? Thanks!
Probably should have stopped OTA updates on the last good version. Updates kill phones.
If the OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission... let it be! I'm still running on Pie on my 10+, no updates for over 1.5 years... and zero issues.
Security simply isn't an issue with Androids most times even with outdated firmware unless you do something stupid.
My current OS load is over a year old...
Try a factory reset if you haven't done one since a major firmware update. That may resolve the issues.
...or find whatever is slowing u down. or I can recommend Lineage OS 18...constantly updated and polished...lots of users hence good support!
I'd say yes, but have a backup phone. Maybe have a plan to buy a new one if this fails. It has been two years since I rooted my black/blue one and I haven't regretted it. Some of my apps require it.
I just got another one like it only in white that's badly broken. I have tried to root it but I'm tired and pain meds are making my mind unclear. I did unlock the bootloader without any trouble. Mainly I wanted it so I could change its battery without damaging it, then decide if I want to change the battery in the black one or take it to a shop.
If I can bring the project phone up to speed I'll run it with my secondary line.
In short, though, yes. Be sure to back it up first, as this will delete all user data. The G7 64 ROM / 4 RAM is a very capable phone even as old as it is.
Finally mustered the courage and did it. So far, so good. Glad I did. Thanks for the advice!