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When available for Note 3 from Verizon?
Never or spring 2015.. No one knows if or when we will get the update. Verizon is always so slow. The newer devices verizon dont even have the update. I personslly doubt we will ever see it.
Is there really a different marshmallow update for moto pure that's on t mobile ? That's why I bought an unlocked phone to start with. T mobile has always been bad about updates. Need answers please
No, update should be the same, only reason we haven't gotten it yet on T-Mobile is because T-Mobile hasn't approved/certified VoLTE/Band 12/etc for their network.
gamer765 said:
No, update should be the same, only reason we haven't gotten it yet on T-Mobile is because T-Mobile hasn't approved/certified VoLTE/Band 12/etc for their network.
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What's the implication of that for us here..would you install it by removing SIM & download over Wi-Fi or are you waiting for a more official rollout to T-mobile (or not installing it for other reasons people are complaining about like Wi-Fi+browser+call network issues)?
MM is running great for me. Sideloaded it when it was first posted as a soak test. That update was apparently for Verizon/Sprint users but look at the update being rolled out to AT&T users, its the same as the soak test. Either T-Mobile certifies the current update and we end up getting the same exact update as everyone else, or T-Mobile tells Motorola it doesn't meet their requirements and Motorola rolls out a new build with the specifications set by T-Mobile, which Verizon and all other carrier users will get also since the builds are not carrier specific and neither is the device.
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MM is running great for me. Sideloaded it when it was first posted as a soak test. That update was apparently for Verizon/Sprint users but look at the update being rolled out to AT&T users, its the same as the soak test. Either T-Mobile certifies the current update and we end up getting the same exact update as everyone else, or T-Mobile tells Motorola it doesn't meet their requirements and Motorola rolls out a new build with the specifications set by T-Mobile, which Verizon and all other carrier users will get also since the builds are not carrier specific and neither is the device.
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Hmm so you've been running MM for weeks on MXP on T-Mobile with no issues & worst case scenario everyone would get another update later that meets T-Mobile requirements so no reason not to install?
What about the people complaining about slow browser performance-Wi-Fi-call-network issues?
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...prod_answer_detail/a_id/109124/p/30,6720,9541
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/product_page/faqs/p/30,6720,9541/#/how_do_i
-Thnx for your feedback
My browser works fine. I rarely get any issues and if there is any, it's just slight lag on this website. WiFi and calling is fine for me. I do get band 12 when I'm at work in certain areas but I'm on band 4 99% of the time
gamer765 said:
My browser works fine. I rarely get any issues and if there is any, it's just slight lag on this website. WiFi and calling is fine for me. I do get band 12 when I'm at work in certain areas but I'm on band 4 99% of the time
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So you have no regrets.. good to read.
I mainly use Boat+floating+Chrome browsers but occasionally use others..any ideas why people are reporting browser issues & you experience a slight lag only on this website?
Why is T-Mobile taking so long to certify the update?
Still no t mobile update. Thinking about pulling sim and doing update. But if and when t mobile certifies it will it update again any thoughts ?
Anyone know why Samsung takes so long to update the unlocked version? Is it due to compatability with all carriers and need to push carrier updates to get approved then they can push update to unlocked?
I'd imagine one reason is that they sell far fewer units for the unlocked versions.
I believe it is for security reasons. Easier to push out updates with errors that you can't exploit because of it being locked. Then having to make sure updates for the unlocked versions are more secure
I doubt it has anything to do with carrier compatibility, because I know that Samsung is not certifying the unlocked S8 for ATT. That is why the unlocked one cannot get VoLTE on ATT. There are very few unlocked devices that ATT certified for their network (HTC A9 comes to mind) and get on VoLTE. Verizon is not too far from this.
So, if we scratch carrier certification (because Samsung is not doing it), who knows what kind of contractual barrier with carriers is preventing them from updating the unlocked S8 and S8+. I guess similar contractual barrier that is preventing Sony selling their unlocked models with enabled fingerprint readers.
Got it. Well it finally received its first update this morning.
BlackKnight23 said:
Got it. Well it finally received its first update this morning.
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I updated this couple days ago
paullu said:
I updated this couple days ago
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Unlocked US S8? Ive been checking and this morning was available for me.
BlackKnight23 said:
Unlocked US S8? Ive been checking and this morning was available for me.
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Unlock my s8 is like pine in my ass
Still waiting for T-Mobile to sim unlock.
T-Mobile customer service **** up! From may twenty something I started try call T-Mobile to unlock but still .........
paullu said:
Unlock my s8 is like pine in my ass
Still waiting for T-Mobile to sim unlock.
T-Mobile customer service **** up! From may twenty something I started try call T-Mobile to unlock but still .........
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Ok that's the difference. You have a T-Mobile version that got a similar update except from what I had read it is May security patch. I actually have a factory unlocked S8 that isn't from any carrier. It got the update with June security patch
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/06/12/unlocked-verizon-galaxy-s8-updates/
Has anyone with an unlocked S8 (US) received the Oreo ota yet?
Ive always had Verizon branded Galaxy / Android phones in the past so I am not as familiar with the unlocked ota process. Do unlocked Galaxy phones typically receive ota updates last?
I have a Tmo device on U1(unlocked) firmware and haven't received the update yet. It's somewhat annoying that both Vzw and Tmo got oreo before the unlocked.
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Unlocked variants are usually the last ones to get the updates
:laugh: just got it..MetroPCS unlocked S8.
aftab565 said:
[emoji23] just got it..MetroPCS unlocked S8.
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That is not the unlocked variant. If it is it has been flashed with SM-G950U firmware for MetroPCS. Your phone might be unlocked but the OP was asking about the SM-G950U1.
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adj998 said:
Unlocked variants are usually the last ones to get the updates
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Why is unlocked variant last to get updates? No carrier bloat to update, so technically it should be first.
bocondo said:
Why is unlocked variant last to get updates? No carrier bloat to update, so technically it should be first.
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Unfortunately that's just how it's is, hence why Verizon, T-Mobile and Sprint have the official Oreo update including the exynos variant. As for unlocked variants they'll eventually get it, but you'll probably get Oreo root faster than your official update. Or if you're impatient just grab an Oreo beta and work with that.
My Verizon s8+ that I use my tmobile sim got it yesterday. It changed the Verizon boot logo to tmobile. No more Verizon bloatware.
They said the U1 beta testers would be the first to get it too and that didn't happen.
Who ultimately pushes the ota for unlocked phones? Is it the manufacturer (Samsung) or the carrier that you're using the phone on?
If it is the carrier, then I suppose it makes sense that they would prioritize their locked variants first.
Waiting for Oreo OTA
Re: They said the U1 beta testers would be the first to get it too and that didn't happen.
Yes. It's taking a great deal of patience. Samsung seems to have appreciated our feedback as beta testers and then led us out to pasture and left is behind. I think I'm running a Jan 16 beta build and have been waiting...
What software version are you guys on? I am still on nougat 7.0. Are they going to push out 8.0 and skipping 7.1?
Androidsssssss said:
What software version are you guys on? I am still on nougat 7.0. Are they going to push out 8.0 and skipping 7.1?
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Here in the states, my SM-G950U updated to Oreo v8.0.0 from v7.0 yesterday afternoon (March 20). Samsung Experience v9.0, Build number is R16NW.G950USQU2CRB9.
Security patch level is 1 Feb, 2018.
bocondo said:
Why is unlocked variant last to get updates? No carrier bloat to update, so technically it should be first.
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I was told that the unlocked variant needs all US carriers to sign off on it before they can send it out.
I'm running beta Oreo for U1. Still no update. I wouldn't mind so much if the lockscreen didn't interfere with listening to music, the music gets slow, choppy, distorted sounds when the lock screen turns off my display. Can't listen to music in my car, it's so annoying. Wish they'd expedite the update like now. They basically jacked my radio with that bug. lol
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I was told that the unlocked variant needs all US carriers to sign off on it before they can send it out.
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no that's bull****. that defeats the entire purpose of getting an unlocked phone.
The unbranded and unlocked version must work with both GSM and CDMA networks. They also must work with the carriers features like, WiFi calling, call waiting, etc. If I understand this correctly, they will require some form of carriers' certifications. Therefore unlocked phones will face delays from both Samsung and the carriers. I made a mistake of not believing former owners and publications about slow updates when I bought my S8 from Samsung. I have since corrected my mistake and bought a Pixel 2. You'll have to adjust to a plain Jane Android but you must give up something to get the timely OS updates from Google.
I am now fully convinced that Samsung will never change and Samsung phone owners who are dissatisfied with the unlocked OS updates can buy phones other than Samsung. Sony seems to be serious with the US market with their new Xperia XZ2.Sony's OS is as close to plain Android and their updates are not bad. My 2-yr old Xperia X has been on Oreo 8.0 for awhile now. Essential can be a player too.
Do yourself a favor. Stay away from Samsung if your priority is timely OS update.
If they let Snapdragon Users unlock bootloaders this was not a problem. May they will let us do that or some one will find an exploit i mean, yo can unlock bootloader on china snapdragon s8. #IWillBuyMyGalaxyS10WithExynos
gingson said:
The unbranded and unlocked version must work with both GSM and CDMA networks. They also must work with the carriers features like, WiFi calling, call waiting, etc.
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Well I hope this is true for Oreo, but I doubt. The 7.0 the unbranded fw for at&t doesn't even allow VoLTE or WiFi calling out of the box.
Not sure about ATT but Oreo works on those features from T-Mobile. By the way I failed to mention that I am on Oreo Beta in my unlocked S8 which I used with Tmo.
I was just looking around and when I opened the frija tool, their was a new update for the XAA version. Its N986U1UES1ATID version. Thought I would post here for people to try it.
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I was just looking around and when I opened the frija tool, their was a new update for the XAA version. Its N986U1UES1ATID version. Thought I would post here for people to try it.
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Unlocked on Verizon network just pulled the update OTA after I read this post.
First thing I noticed is that we now have the October security patch.
size of update?
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size of update?
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on frija it was 5.5 gb
a1atif said:
size of update?
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Unlocked on Verizon.
gsingh22 said:
on frija it was 5.5 gb
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october patch around 230 MB. Just performed an OTA on my unlocked firmware with verizon csc.
Never through i would see the day where unlocked firmware updates get ahead of the carriers.
Still waiting on mine. I am unlocked on Tmobile. My last update was done manually though...so we will see.
Love these fast updates unlocked lolView attachment 5110297
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hayabusa1300cc said:
Love these fast updates unlocked lolView attachment 5110297
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Thats awesome, I just manually flashed this one. might have something to do with the fact that i am using T-Mobile Sim. What Carrier are you using?
warriorvibhu said:
Thats awesome, I just manually flashed this one. might have something to do with the fact that i am using T-Mobile Sim. What Carrier are you using?
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Sprint, they've been on it every time
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I got my unlocked phone on 10/1 from Samsung. Immediately, I got update for September patch. Now I checked it, it showing no updates available.
I am in US, Tmobile network.
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Sprint, they've been on it every time
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Ahh makes sense, when i checked Sprint CSC had an update available on Frija. Cool, so it is T-Mobile thats being slow.
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I got my unlocked phone on 10/1 from Samsung. Immediately, I got update for September patch. Now I checked it, it showing no updates available.
I am in US, Tmobile network.
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Use Frija to manually download and Odin to Manually flash your phone if its important for you else just wait for updates if you dont like to tinker.
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Use Frija to manually download and Odin to Manually flash your phone if its important for you else just wait for updates if you dont like to tinker.
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Yeah, i think i will wait. I think in couple of days every one will get it.
So crazy that Sprint drops right away but TMB has been dead last, considering they are merging to 1 company. You'd think they'd merge the updates departments considering it's literally duplicate work for many phones.
Heck, even Verizon and ATT have been beating TMB. On the s9+, s10+ and N10+, I would usually see TMB or Comcast beating everyone, with ATT typically being last.
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So crazy that Sprint drops right away but TMB has been dead last, considering they are merging to 1 company. You'd think they'd merge the updates departments considering it's literally duplicate work for many phones.
Heck, even Verizon and ATT have been beating TMB. On the s9+, s10+ and N10+, I would usually see TMB or Comcast beating everyone, with ATT typically being last.
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Also considering how the ROM is essentially exactly the same except for CSC features and how easily we all flash the updates they should actually work on the update teams consolidation. TMB sucks these days and the way devices get updated in US it sucks that one loses the advantage of unlocked device the moment they put in a carrier sim.
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Also considering how the ROM is essentially exactly the same except for CSC features and how easily we all flash the updates they should actually work on the update teams consolidation. TMB sucks these days and the way devices get updated in US it sucks that one loses the advantage of unlocked device the moment they put in a carrier sim.
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It's just odd that I bought a U1 directly through Samsung but I'm waiting on the ota. I had thought Samsung released directly for u1......
todd3835 said:
It's just odd that I bought a U1 directly through Samsung but I'm waiting on the ota. I had thought Samsung released directly for u1......
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Same though I didn't buy from Samsung, I did buy it unlocked. Once you put in your sim then you are dependent on the Carrier to release an update even if you are on an unlocked phone. The best way to go about is to doodled using Frija or the Ota and Non Ota update thread and then flashing using Odin.
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Same though I didn't buy from Samsung, I did buy it unlocked. Once you put in your sim then you are dependent on the Carrier to release an update even if you are on an unlocked phone. The best way to go about is to doodled using Frija or the Ota and Non Ota update thread and then flashing using Odin.
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I always assumed it was Samsung who did that for their unlocked phones instead of the carriers.
it' up to carriers on unlocked phone.
i have unlocked ultra20 Ultra on Visible, NEVER gotten any ota.
instead of odin and flashing your phone with cable.
you can just insert a expired ATT simcard or expired Mint simcard and do a manual check for update and it will show up