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Hello folks I've been searching for a nougat update for XT-1644, but unable to find over the xda if anyone of you havs upgraded your xt-1644 then kindly tell the procedure here, Thanks.
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You mean a method like this? https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/xt1644-stock-marshmallow-to-nougat-t3540022
If you download the 93-14 Nougat firmware, that's the latest version. Nougat OTAs currently only exist for the 93-11 firmware.
echo92 said:
You mean a method like this? https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/xt1644-stock-marshmallow-to-nougat-t3540022
If you download the 93-14 Nougat firmware, that's the latest version. Nougat OTAs currently only exist for the 93-11 firmware.
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Sorry didn't find that,
One more question i have unlocked my bootloader will it work? I mean will i be able to flash this 7.0?
waseemmayaa said:
Sorry didn't find that,
One more question i have unlocked my bootloader will it work? I mean will i be able to flash this 7.0?
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Yes, your bootloader status won't matter - as long as that's all you've done. As I understand it, the update via stock recovery only cares if the rest of your phone has been modified - if you've still got a stock bootloader, stock recovery and stock kernel (from MM, provided it's up to date), it should work and you should be eligible for future OTAs.
The only hurdle I could see happening is that the build of Marshmallow expected by the OTA and your phone's current OS build do not match, in which case it won't install. Thus, you may have to consult one of the fastboot Nougat 93-11 or 93-14 threads to install, which you'll have to do if your system is modified past the bootloader.
Here are a couple for your perusal:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-7-0-install-nougat-official-t3531612
echo92 said:
Yes, your bootloader status won't matter - as long as that's all you've done. As I understand it, the update via stock recovery only cares if the rest of your phone has been modified - if you've still got a stock bootloader, stock recovery and stock kernel (from MM, provided it's up to date), it should work and you should be eligible for future OTAs.
The only hurdle I could see happening is that the build of Marshmallow expected by the OTA and your phone's current OS build do not match, in which case it won't install. Thus, you may have to consult one of the fastboot Nougat 93-11 or 93-14 threads to install, which you'll have to do if your system is modified past the bootloader.
Here are a couple for your perusal:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-7-0-install-nougat-official-t3531612
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Thanks for the brief info, it means i have to flash it via fastboot and if that works fine then I'll be able to get OTA, but for your info, I've unlocked bootloader and installed Official TWRP but if i flash any of the firmware (given above) will i face bootloop kinda stuffs? I am scared if something goes wrong then i will even not able to restore nandroid backup. Hope you gotta help me.
Thanks.
waseemmayaa said:
Thanks for the brief info, it means i have to flash it via fastboot and if that works fine then I'll be able to get OTA, but for your info, I've unlocked bootloader and installed Official TWRP but if i flash any of the firmware (given above) will i face bootloop kinda stuffs? I am scared if something goes wrong then i will even not able to restore nandroid backup. Hope you gotta help me.
Thanks.
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I see you've received a response in the other thread regarding if XT1644 will accept the update; given you've flashed TWRP, if you wish to be very safe, I would suggest re-installing your Marshmallow ROM so you have a stock install before proceeding to Nougat. There's nothing stopping you from directly flashing Nougat, and the fastboot method for either Nougat build may correctly overwrite the relevant files, the only way is to try the procedure. Don't use the TWRP backup images of Nougat - they don't contain updates to your baseband modem and other core parts of your device - they are only meant to be used once your entire phone is updated to Nougat.
If you wish to restore back to stock MM before flashing Nougat, here's links to stock firmware for XT1644: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/xt1644-firmware-t3454980
But either way, read all the instructions first, ensure you've got all the firmware and tools you need installed/downloaded, your phone has at least 50 % battery and plenty of time, and you should be okay.
OK Please note (4-25-17) this message is a work in progress, as I slowly restore my system.
This is a listing and hopefully helpful listing of what I did (right and wrong)
in upgrading my Systemless-rooted (suuser) phone from 6.01 to 7.00 (nougat)
# 1. it did not work, and I went back to 6.01 successfully using the twrp recovery
I have previously used Bender's guid (here) to get the system-less root on 6.01.
essentailly, here's the best plan. Use the Minimal ADB and Fastboot package (MADB &F) (here)
(Explanation: the MADB&FB package will allow you do do LOTS of stuff related to updating your phone, with very little grief.)
it also includes the ability to automatically "push" a package over your usb connection if the ZIP file doesnt load right. **THIS will come in handy later!
Once MADB&F is installed, make note of your directory, and then make sure you start your dos window (for pc users) as an administrator!
BTW, if I HADN'T made the "TWRP backup" of my system, I'd be Sh*t out of luck right now...", because I screwed up the 7.0 upgrade.
the technical problem was that I had no data, no modem, no way of getting data/voice in/out.
SIMPLY using the TWRP restore fixed me!!!
(so far, we have MADB&FB, downloaded and bender's (chainfire) rootless guide.
Next you want to download the current firmware image for your phone. This will be a lifesaver, I promise!
3) Download a TWRP image (this will MAGICALLY load on your pc when you tell it you need help! Look HERE
(Athene is the Motorola Codename for the motoG4+)
3) copy the athene TWRP image into your madb&FB directory to make it easy to load
4) next, (you still haven't touched your phone yet, you realize: (skipping some basics here, you can search here on XDA to find more info)
a) plug your phone into your pc
b) make sure you are a developer
c) make sure your phone shows you are connected to your pc for file transfers, NOT for charging
5) in your MADB&FB directory, (aka a dos/(admin) window) type the following:
all commands at this point will take place in whatever directory you installed Minimal ADB & Fast boot (MADB&FB)
Connect your phone to your PC and open MADB&FB, check the connection with:
adb devices
return should include your "serial-no" and "device".
6) next, on pc, tell the system to reboot your phone to the bootloader!
Reboot into bootloader with:
adb reboot-bootloader
and check again with:
fastboot devices
7) Next you are going to download TWRP to your phone (not permanently, just for a bit!)
fastboot. flash recovery twrp-3.0.2-0-athene.img
Now you have TWRP (Team Windows RECOVERY PROJECT) loaded.
SO.. THIS is where you create a backup of your current stuff using the backup options.
NEXT:
take the suUser2.78 (stateless rooting), and once your backup is done, install it from TWRP
Then (I was) back to 6.01 rooted.
NEXT: 7.0 and then rooting... (will update tomorrow)
did a successful upgrade to 7.0,
then unsuccessfully tried to sideload supersu2.78, which bricked loader
then downgraded again to 6.01 (and rooted again, ok)
will continue tomorrow.
need working phone for now..
cheers to all, and to all, a happy spelunking!
You can't root factory Nougat as is, it is well encrypted.
You need to replace first the kernel with the ElementalX one, or you will end up with bootloops.
Only after that you can do SuperSU, but only with the latest beta.
A few pointers from your story:
1)As you've found out the hard way, you won't be able to update to Nougat if you have root and/or TWRP, because the update requires a stock system - stock recovery, system and no modifications (bootloader status doesn't matter). In other words, you'll need to unroot and restore your stock recovery - might be easier to reflash the stock system, probably the quickest way to flash a stock ROM (and update to Nougat) is to use the fastboot ROM. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369 Of course, this will remove root and TWRP, as well as potentially wipe your data, so back up accordingly. This should flash the NPJ25.93-14 build on your device, which appears to be the latest global build.
1a)Also, if you flash Nougat this way, your bootloader and GPT partitions will be updated, so if you wish to downgrade to Marshmallow at any point, when flashing do not flash these partitions from the Marshmallow ROM. Fastboot should stop you, but a brick may occur if these get flashed.
1b) You may find in the Guides section TWRP backups of Nougat builds, I don't recommend using these to update your system with. Granted, they have most of the Nougat system in a TWRP backup, but some crucial firmware (e.g. the baseband) is not included, and may cause you issues if your device is not formally flashed to Nougat.
2) As SoNic67 has already mentioned, the stock kernel security will cause your device to bootloop should you choose to try to root following the Marshmallow method. If you wish to use SuperSU, follow this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-root-moto-g4-plus-supersu-android-t3587918 You may wish to use a more up to date TWRP than the official 3.0.2 (I recommend shrep's TWRP 3.0.3 n4 here:https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...covery-twrp-3-0-2-r3-moto-g4-g4-plus-t3494337) Whatever you do, ensure you flash first the ElementalX kernel before you flash the SuperSU v2.79 SR3 beta (https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133), or apply the systemless fix with earlier SuperSU versions as directed in the aforementioned rooting with SuperSU guide. Else you'll be having bootloops or your device will not boot whatsoever. Here's my steps in successfully rooting Nougat: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71817346&postcount=225. Good luck either way.
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A few pointers from your story:
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1b) You may find in the Guides section TWRP backups of Nougat builds, I don't recommend using these to update your system with. Granted, they have most of the Nougat system in a TWRP backup, but some crucial firmware (e.g. the baseband) is not included, and may cause you issues if your device is not formally flashed to Nougat.
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After updating my US retail xt1644 to nougat, by restoring totally-stock marshmallow then taking the OTA, I wiped data and made a *complete* TWRP backup using @Shreps' unofficial 3.1 TWRP build (https://moto.shreps.fr/Moto G4 (athene)/recovery/twrp-3.1.0-athene_shreps.img).
This version of TWRP allows backup/restore of the full set of firmware partitions including baseband, DSP, etc.
In other words, I believe the TWRP backup folder in the following .zip file provides a one-stop path to the latest xt1644 USRET firmware by doing a restore from TWRP 3.1.0.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4XobQzgZVHyRTlmSDMtYkdZeUU/view?usp=drivesdk
My only uncertainly is if the ota process modified the partition table in a way that might make this backup image incompatible with the xt1644 still in the marshmallow state.
I've often wondered if I (or a more skilled enthusiast) couldn't build a TWRP-flashable .zip that would setup the partition table, update the baseband, etc. This is what I've grown used to from devs on other phones I've had, but perhaps there's something about the way moto does things that makes this problematic.
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bmeek said:
After updating my US retail xt1644 to nougat, by restoring totally-stock marshmallow then taking the OTA, I wiped data and made a *complete* TWRP backup using @Shrep's unofficial 3.1 TWRP build (https://moto.shreps.fr/Moto G4 (athene)/recovery/twrp-3.1.0-athene_shreps.img).
This version of TWRP allows backup/restore of the full set of firmware partitions including baseband, DSP, etc.
In other words, I believe the TWRP backup folder in the following .zip file provides a one-stop path to the latest xt1644 USRET firmware by doing a restore from TWRP 3.1.0.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4XobQzgZVHyRTlmSDMtYkdZeUU/view?usp=drivesdk
My only uncertainly is if the ota process modified the partition table in a way that might make this backup image incompatible with the xt1644 still in the marshmallow state.
I've often wondered if I (or a more skilled enthusiast) couldn't build a TWRP-flashable .zip that would setup the partition table, update the baseband, etc. This is what I've grown used to from devs on other phones I've had, but perhaps there's something about the way moto does things that makes this problematic.
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Nice one, hopefully that'll help more XT 1644 users I'm still not sure if TWRP can backup/flash the baseband by itself, but I don't have a XT 1644 to test. I imagine your backup will need a clean flash (wipe data/cache/Dalvik) to work?
The OTA process does update the partition table, but as far as I know, that should not prevent you from flashing back to Marshmallow/Nougat as you wish, so long as you did not try to downgrade the GPT/bootloader.
There was an effort to create TWRP flashables of the stock ROMs a little while ago (you can see the thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/development/fxz-athene-twrp-flashable-fastboots-t3562147) which if I understood it created flashable radios and ROMs from the firmware files we have. We can't touch the GPT/bootloader since, as I recall, you need a signed stock firmware to do so (and besides, downgrading GPT might be asking for a brick). I recall some users mention they were able to run Nougat TWRP flashes on the MM bootloader/GPT without issue.
There were issues with simply flashing the Nougat 93-14 radio baseband files for some US users, losing LTE in the process and appears the only resolution was to flash the stock ROM - I don't know what the cause was (perhaps no/incorrect CDMA support in the radio files?). Your TWRP flash is from a US based phone so may have better luck in that department, and will likely behave on your device since that OTA has updated all the firmware on your device that TWRP isn't able to touch. I still am not sure if we can use this TWRP backup to update on a MM device without issue, but only one way to find out...
If some of the more experienced people here could check my steps for returning to stock, I'd really appreciate it. I have some questions and also want to confirm that I correctly understand how to do some of the others. Thanks.
My XT-1575 is running 6.0 build number MPHS24-49-18-16. I would like to change ROMs (probably to Lineage OS 14.1) but be able to return to the same build at a later time. I do not want to update the Moto firmware to 7.0.
Steps:
1) Use the instructions in the thread: [GUIDE] [XT1575] Return to stock and relock bootloader by @acejavelin
2) Download the latest 6.0 factory image available (MPHS24.49-18-8) with the link in the thread and place it in the adb platform-tools directory
3) Open a command prompt in the platform-tools directory and issue the commands listed in the thread to flash the firmware. This will not lock the bootloader because this is an earlier build.
4) As shown in the thread, go to @annoyingduck's post (post #366) to get the OTA .zip to go from 18-8 to 18-16
5) This needs to be sideloaded.Is TWRP used for this? Will TWRP still be in recovery after running the commands in step 3? Do I need to flash TWRP to recovery? When I flash the OTA, will this replace TWRP with the stock recovery?
6) Is there an additional step(s) to lock the bootloader? The instructions say flashing an older build will fail at locking the bootloader. Instead, the OTA is flashed manually, but how does the bootloader get relocked?
7) Are there any additional steps to return to official status to pass safetynet and get OTAs?
xdafan15 said:
If some of the more experienced people here could check my steps for returning to stock, I'd really appreciate it. I have some questions and also want to confirm that I correctly understand how to do some of the others. Thanks.
My XT-1575 is running 6.0 build number MPHS24-49-18-16. I would like to change ROMs (probably to Lineage OS 14.1) but be able to return to the same build at a later time. I do not want to update the Moto firmware to 7.0.
Steps:
1) Use the instructions in the thread: [GUIDE] [XT1575] Return to stock and relock bootloader by @acejavelin
2) Download the latest 6.0 factory image available (MPHS24.49-18-8) with the link in the thread and place it in the adb platform-tools directory
3) Open a command prompt in the platform-tools directory and issue the commands listed in the thread to flash the firmware. This will not lock the bootloader because this is an earlier build.
4) As shown in the thread, go to @annoyingduck's post (post #366) to get the OTA .zip to go from 18-8 to 18-16
5) This needs to be sideloaded.Is TWRP used for this? Will TWRP still be in recovery after running the commands in step 3? Do I need to flash TWRP to recovery? When I flash the OTA, will this replace TWRP with the stock recovery?
6) Is there an additional step(s) to lock the bootloader? The instructions say flashing an older build will fail at locking the bootloader. Instead, the OTA is flashed manually, but how does the bootloader get relocked?
7) Are there any additional steps to return to official status to pass safetynet and get OTAs?
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All of these questions are answered in the threads you referenced...
1) Yup, that's fine.
2) Same, remember to extract it... Although I would recommend extracting it to a unique directory and add platform-tools to your path
3) Correct, sort of... You cannot use an older firmware to lock, but there are specific commands to attempt a lock and to just flash. When downgrading be aware gpt.bin (partition table) and bootloader.img may fail and that is normal.
4) Yup, good there
5) Sideload in this regard is accomplished through stock recovery, start stock recovery and select "Apply update from ADB" then execute "adb sideload update.zip"
6) Your only option at this time to lock the bootloader is to flash a Nougat firmware image... We do not have a Marshmallow 18-16 image and without one you cannot lock the bootloader, no matter how much you downgrade.
7) "Official" status is not required to pass SafetyNet API check on Marshmallow or Nougat, but you must have a purely stock /boot, /recovery, and /system partition. On Nougat you must also have a locked bootloader. The only way to get back to "Official" status is to flash an official firmware image and then take an official OTA successfully.
Thanks for your help, @acejavelin! Some further clarifying questions-
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3) Correct, sort of... You cannot use an older firmware to lock, but there are specific commands to attempt a lock and to just flash. When downgrading be aware gpt.bin (partition table) and bootloader.img may fail and that is normal.
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I assumed I would just copy and paste the commands you provided exactly as listed. Is that OK? Or do I need to substitute the commands you showed at the bottom:
fastboot oem fb_mode_set instead of fastboot oem lock begin
fastboot oem fb_mode_clear instead of fastboot oem lock
Or it doesn't matter?
acejavelin said:
6) Your only option at this time to lock the bootloader is to flash a Nougat firmware image... We do not have a Marshmallow 18-16 image and without one you cannot lock the bootloader, no matter how much you downgrade.
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And the way to do this is to flash NPH25.200-22 from adb fastboot as shown in your other thread, correct? Can I also take the Moto OTA from 18-16 (the one I am currently being offered)?
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7) "Official" status is not required to pass SafetyNet API check on Marshmallow or Nougat, but you must have a purely stock /boot, /recovery, and /system partition. On Nougat you must also have a locked bootloader. The only way to get back to "Official" status is to flash an official firmware image and then take an official OTA successfully.
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So you are saying that if I follow the instructions to return to 18-16 I will be able to recieve OTAs and will pass safetynet. Only downside is that my bootloader will remain unlocked?
By flashing the Nougat image, my bootloader can be locked (part of the sequence of commands)
but only by doing this plus accepting a future OTA will the status return to "official"?
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Thanks for your help, @acejavelin! Some further clarifying questions-
I assumed I would just copy and paste the commands you provided exactly as listed. Is that OK? Or do I need to substitute the commands you showed at the bottom:
fastboot oem fb_mode_set instead of fastboot oem lock begin
fastboot oem fb_mode_clear instead of fastboot oem lock
Or it doesn't matter?
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Using the 'oem lock' commands will fail, and it will get stuck in fb_mode that you have to clear. Better to just use the fb_mode commands up front.
xdafan15 said:
And the way to do this is to flash NPH25.200-22 from adb fastboot as shown in your other thread, correct? Can I also take the Moto OTA from 18-16 (the one I am currently being offered)?
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Guess I am confused... if you flash NPH25.200-22 you won't be offered 18-16 OTA, but will likely be offered the NPHS25-201.1 update. If you are on 18-8 and are pure stock you can accept the 18-16 update, and within 24 hours after that is successfully applied you should be offered the Nougat update(s).
xdafan15 said:
So you are saying that if I follow the instructions to return to 18-16 I will be able to recieve OTAs and will pass safetynet. Only downside is that my bootloader will remain unlocked?
By flashing the Nougat image, my bootloader can be locked (part of the sequence of commands)
but only by doing this plus accepting a future OTA will the status return to "official"?
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You can chose whether to lock the bootloader or not by flashing the Nougat image, the question is which do you want? Just flashing an image won't make your software status "official" in most cases. We have seen some cases where it does, but we don't know why and in most cases it will stay unofficial until you accept an OTA update, then somehow it miraculously becomes official. The key to remember here is once you accept an OTA that is a higher version than the stock images we have, you have no way to lock the bootloader, so if you want to lock your bootloader in your current state the only possible way is to flash the NPH25.200-22 image using the locking commands, because if you don't lock at this point and accept an OTA update you cannot relock the bootloader until (or if) we get a newer factory image.
One more thing to keep in mind, if you accept an OTA to Nougat or manually upgrade, and decide to downgrade to Marshmallow, it is possible, but once this is done do NOT accept any OTA updates back to Nougat, it will hard brick... and I mean perma-brick such that a mainboard replacement is necessary to fix it, which Moto won't do because you unlocked the bootloader, so basically the phone is trash.
@acejavelin, thanks again and sorry for asking so many questions. For those of us who only play around at this stuff, it is hard to keep this all in our heads. Especially since a wrong move can hard brick the phone as you mentioned.
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Guess I am confused... if you flash NPH25.200-22 you won't be offered 18-16 OTA, but will likely be offered the NPHS25-201.1 update. If you are on 18-8 and are pure stock you can accept the 18-16 update, and within 24 hours after that is successfully applied you should be offered the Nougat update(s).
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Interesting- You say if I return to stock 18-8, Moto will offer me the 18-16 OTA first, I won't be offered Nougat directly?
Since I would want to relock the bootloader, is there any reason not to just go directly from Lineage OS to NPH25.200-22?
The string of commands to issue (shown in the "return to stock" thread) is the same whether it is a MM or Nougat image that is being flashed, correct?
acejavelin said:
One more thing to keep in mind, if you accept an OTA to Nougat or manually upgrade, and decide to downgrade to Marshmallow, it is possible, but once this is done do NOT accept any OTA updates back to Nougat, it will hard brick... and I mean perma-brick....
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If I downgrade to MM and then flash the NPH25.200-22 image, at that point is it again OK to take an OTA to NPHS25-201.1 with causing problems?
Does it matter if the Nougat version I was originally on before downgrading was 200-22 vs 201.1?
Thanks again!
xdafan15 said:
@acejavelin, thanks again and sorry for asking so many questions. For those of us who only play around at this stuff, it is hard to keep this all in our heads. Especially since a wrong move can hard brick the phone as you mentioned.
Interesting- You say if I return to stock 18-8, Moto will offer me the 18-16 OTA first, I won't be offered Nougat directly?
Since I would want to relock the bootloader, is there any reason not to just go directly from Lineage OS to NPH25.200-22?
The string of commands to issue (shown in the "return to stock" thread) is the same whether it is a MM or Nougat image that is being flashed, correct?
If I downgrade to MM and then flash the NPH25.200-22 image, at that point is it again OK to take an OTA to NPHS25-201.1 with causing problems?
Does it matter if the Nougat version I was originally on before downgrading was 200-22 vs 201.1?
Thanks again!
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Yes
No
Yes, except watch the number of sparse chunks
Yes, as long as you flash the full image and not as an OTA.
No
I guess this conversation is going all over the place... are you wanting to return to stock and lock the bootloader or run a custom ROM? You can't really do both. If you want to return to stock, that depends on your current version, if you want to run custom there are less constraints. This is a 2 year old device, just pick one and go with it.
Thanks for your patience with me, @acejavelin.
My intent is to switch to Lineage OS now, but make sure I understand the correct steps to return to stock in the future if I want to. I wanted to confirm that info before everyone is gone from the Moto X Pure forum. I tend to keep my phones for a long time.
I think I've got it now, but I do want to ask 1 more clarifying question:
I asked "If I downgrade to MM and then flash the NPH25.200-22 image, at that point is it again OK to take an OTA to NPHS25-201.1 with causing problems?"
and you answered
"Yes, as long as you flash the full image and not as an OTA."
Do you mean
(A) as long as I flash the full 25.200-22 image and then take the OTA (which motorola will offer to me at that point to get to 25-201.1),
OR
(B) did you mean after flashing the image to get to 25.200-22, I cannot take the OTA to 25-201.1, but must wait until (if) someone posts the image file for 25-201.1 and flash that?
Sorry for asking so many questions. I really appreciate it
xdafan15 said:
Thanks for your patience with me, @acejavelin.
My intent is to switch to Lineage OS now, but make sure I understand the correct steps to return to stock in the future if I want to. I wanted to confirm that info before everyone is gone from the Moto X Pure forum. I tend to keep my phones for a long time.
I think I've got it now, but I do want to ask 1 more clarifying question:
I asked "If I downgrade to MM and then flash the NPH25.200-22 image, at that point is it again OK to take an OTA to NPHS25-201.1 with causing problems?"
and you answered
"Yes, as long as you flash the full image and not as an OTA."
Do you mean
(A) as long as I flash the full 25.200-22 image and then take the OTA (which motorola will offer to me at that point to get to 25-201.1),
OR
(B) did you mean after flashing the image to get to 25.200-22, I cannot take the OTA to 25-201.1, but must wait until (if) someone posts the image file for 25-201.1 and flash that?
Sorry for asking so many questions. I really appreciate it
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Honestly, the smart bet would be to flash the NPH25.200-22 image, then do NOT take any OTA. Then go ahead and flash TWRP and LineageOS. You can always go back to the full image without issues of "downgrading".
At this time the 25.200-22 image is the newest we have and downgrading can never be perfect. If there is no reason to take the OTA (like you are going to just flash Lineage anyway), then don't take it... At least you have an easy out.
The main reason for this is we don't have an image for 25-201.2 and we don't know when, or even if, we ever will. For example, we never did get an image of Marshmallow 18-16 and at this point I doubt we ever will.
Thanks for the excellent support, @acejavelin! That's why I love XDA.
@acejavelin I was on official (stock) 7.0, build NPH25.200-23. I installed unofficial LOS 14.1 (by Hashbang) because I have the N modem, and official LOS 14.1 only supports the M modem. I later decided to go back to stock. As we all know the NPH25.200-23 factory images have not yet been (or ever will be) released, so I followed your guide on how to revert to stock, except I flashed the available NPH25.200-22 partitions (the ones that flashed, anyway, minus the ones that gave Preflash Validation Error) without relocking the bootloader, and now I am back to NPH25.200-22. I also immediately received the notification for the -23 OTA but I did not install it. My question is this: Can I accept the -23 OTA or will I risk bricking? I never downgraded to M, I only had unofficial LOS 14.1 builds, and now the stock -22 build.
My battery is acting all weird, shutting down at about 70%, plugging it again and showing 50%. When I boot, if I unplug it will immediately shut down. Basically it's plugged in the whole time. I have no idea what's causing this, the fact that I flashed unofficial LOS, or because of a faulty battery since I had changed it before flashing LOS), or because of partitions mismatch. So I'm trying to narrow it down and pinpoint the cause. But it seems that every time I try something, it makes the battery worse.
The battery is probably reaching the end of it's life...
You can accept the -23 OTA, the risks are minimal if everything you told me is correct.
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The battery is probably reaching the end of it's life...
You can accept the -23 OTA, the risks are minimal if everything you told me is correct.
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Thanks for the reply. Are you sure that taking the OTA on mismatched partitions (bootloader and gpt from -22 and everything else from -23) would not brick? There have been cases like that in the past (https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/warning-hard-bricking-downgrading-t3116379) on the Moto X 2nd Gen because the updater script did not have the correct checks to prevent a brick. Maybe it was the case when downgrading to a previous full version i.e. from 5.1 to 4.4.4, or just on older phones/older versions. Do we know if the updater script from -22 to -23 has to correct checks to prevent a brick?
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Thanks for the reply. Are you sure that taking the OTA on mismatched partitions (bootloader and gpt from -22 and everything else from -23) would not brick? There have been cases like that in the past (https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/warning-hard-bricking-downgrading-t3116379) on the Moto X 2nd Gen because the updater script did not have the correct checks to prevent a brick. Maybe it was the case when downgrading to a previous full version i.e. from 5.1 to 4.4.4, or just on older phones/older versions. Do we know if the updater script from -22 to -23 has to correct checks to prevent a brick?
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Your not downgrading... Either it will work or the checks will fail. The chances of bricking are minimal.
The issue of the MM vs. N modems is part of the reason I started this thread. My understanding was that official Lineage OS 14.1 would only work properly if the phone was still running MM firmware because LOS 14.1 was not configured to handle the N modem as written above by @discovery94. It seems like the unofficial LOS 14 by @Hashbang173 has some problems, so it seemed safer to stay on MM. But @acejavelin's advice to me was to upgrade to N before switching ROMS which would seem to severely limit choices of ROMs
I guess the options are stay on MM and have a large selection of ROMS (including official LOS 14.1)
or upgrade to N and only select form Hashbang's LOS, RR by LuisG, and AOSP EX by Obsolete1,
or maybe upgrade to N, then extract the modem from MM stock firmware and flash it to avoid the modem mismatch problem.
Have I summed this up properly?
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Your not downgrading... Either it will work or the checks will fail. The chances of bricking are minimal.
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So the OTA was unsuccessful. The recovery first showed installing update, then displayed "Error", and then the phone rebooted and displayed an update not successful screen (Images attached). I guess the only way is to use the factory images, but I won't even get my hopes up for that.
I am not responsible for your bricked phone or pigeon poo on your toupe. Do at your own risk.
Many thanks to @SupahCookie for idea and motivation!
INTENTIONALLY DOES --NOT-- LOCK BOOTLOADER!!!
Get factory images here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...ock-images-t3736767/post75236696#post75236696
THIS GUIDE IS FOR FACTORY/STOCK ROMs - NOT YOUR AVERAGE CUSTOM ROM which may not have bootloaders!!! (thanks!!!!! @echo92 )
FIX:
IF YOU ARE ABLE TO GET TO FASTBOOT THIS SHOULD WORK.
IF YOU HAVE 8.x bootloaders AND ARE DOWNGRADING TO 7, use "Alternative to RSDlite" below.
1 boot to win - 7 or 10 works fine.
2 boot phone to fastboot, and connect phone to computer.
3 start RSDlite
pick a ROM. I believe I used a 7.1.1 rom
3Nov9-ADDISON_NPNS26.118-22-2-8_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
RSDlite installed it and fixed the problem.
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I was then able to use RSDlite to install @rafikowy 's signed 8.0 . - going up from 7 to 8.
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If you are on 8.x bootloaders and want to go to 7.x bootloaders, use this (RSDlite throws an error and stops):
ALTERNATIVE TO RSDlite:
1 I used 7zip to extract that 7.1.1 zip (or any ROM zip) into a folder x,
2 add all the adb and fastboot junk to folder x,
3 add the attached file (rename it to flash.bat) to folder x.
4 boot phone to fastboot and connect to computer.
5 click on flash.bat - it throws a lot of "slot" errors but works just fine.
6 reboot your phone if it hasn't already and go through the 7.x install stuffs.
7 you will not show an IMEI if you are coming from an 8.x bootloader. However, it IS there.
NOTE: you may need to add a line to the flash.bat if there are more/less sparsechunk's in your FACTORY/STOCK ROM...
THIS IS NOT FOR CUSTOM ROMs!!!!!!!
EDIT: 3-8-19: I just did this myself to go back very briefly to 7.1 - be sure you don't flash TWRP to it if your going to take OTAs - it will brick it. boot to TWRP if you need TWRP briefly: fastboot boot twrpimg.img
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If you can boot to fastboot screen, you can do anything.
Never OTA a ROM if you have modified recovery (TWRP, etc) or if magisk is present.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...p-flashing-t3813498/post77011495#post77011495
I changed the attached file to add pause and reboot and exit to make it slightly more automated.
I have successfully used this many times going back and forth. If you can boot to fastboot screen, you can save your phone and flash anything you want.
You may wish to advise users that if they downgrade to Nougat not to use Nougat OTA updates. The reason being that a downgraded stock Oreo device may still have the Oreo bootloader on it. Thus, attempting to use Nougat OTA updates may hard brick their device (as the bootloader is likely corrupted, meaning no fastboot).
Users could either use the Feb 2018 NPN26.118-22-2-17 firmware from your link https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETAIL/ as that was the last Nougat firmware (and thus no Nougat OTA updates) or avoid using OTA updates whilst downgraded.
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You may wish to advise users that if they downgrade to Nougat not to use Nougat OTA updates. The reason being that a downgraded stock Oreo device may still have the Oreo bootloader on it. Thus, attempting to use Nougat OTA updates may hard brick their device (as the bootloader is likely corrupted, meaning no fastboot).
Users could either use the Feb 2018 NPN26.118-22-2-17 firmware from your link https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETAIL/ as that was the last Nougat firmware (and thus no Nougat OTA updates) or avoid using OTA updates whilst downgraded.
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Interesting. I used the above GUIDE to go up and down a number of times on my phone (about 20 total) , installing and running on both 7 and 8, and then went down to a Nov 7.1.1 and let it ota all the way up to 8.0 and that is what I am using now. I found that when i used a factory zip, and the above procedure, it corrected the bootloaders to the appropriate version that i was flashing - either RSDlite or the more manual path which ignores the errors worked for me.
Using the above procedure , you get the correct bootloaders, which are in the zip.
Please correct me if i am wrong!
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Interesting. I used the above GUIDE to go up and down a number of times on my phone (about 20 total) , installing and running on both 7 and 8, and then went down to a Nov 7.1.1 and let it ota all the way up to 8.0 and that is what I am using now. I found that when i used a factory zip, and the above procedure, it corrected the bootloaders to the appropriate version that i was flashing - either RSDlite or the more manual path which ignores the errors worked for me.
Using the above procedure , you get the correct bootloaders, which are in the zip.
Please correct me if i am wrong!
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That's intriguing - we saw previously on Z Play that users downgrading their stock firmware (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/help/hard-brick-moto-z-play-patch-abril-t3782927 )and then using OTA updates hard bricked their device (hence the number of users asking for a blankflash, as fastboot no longer works). I don't know if these users hard bricked by downgrading their firmware too far and then flashed an OTA radically different to their previous firmware, or whether it's a risk that's taken by any downgrading of firmware.
When you used fastboot, did you see any 'security downgrade errors' when you flashed the bootloader, and is your bootloader version now C180, as you've flashed the Oreo OTA?
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That's intriguing - we saw previously on Z Play that users downgrading their stock firmware (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/help/hard-brick-moto-z-play-patch-abril-t3782927 )and then using OTA updates hard bricked their device (hence the number of users asking for a blankflash, as fastboot no longer works). I don't know if these users hard bricked by downgrading their firmware too far and then flashed an OTA radically different to their previous firmware, or whether it's a risk that's taken by any downgrading of firmware.
When you used fastboot, did you see any 'security downgrade errors' when you flashed the bootloader, and is your bootloader version now C180, as you've flashed the Oreo OTA?
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YES - that's why I wrote these 3 guides - before, it was quite possible to wind up with a bootloader mix - esp depending on the zip you use! - factory/stock only!!!
I added a line to the guide saying that it is only intended to be used for the factory/stock zips as these have (I believe) the bootloaders appropriate to the ROM.
Many thanks for pursuing this! - I wonder if we'll have to exclude certain ROMs that are in the factory lists?????
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That's intriguing - we saw previously on Z Play that users downgrading their stock firmware (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/help/hard-brick-moto-z-play-patch-abril-t3782927 )and then using OTA updates hard bricked their device
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If you have TWRP (or I assume any custom recovery) present when you try to ota, it can download just fine and then reboot to the update. I had TWRP and wound up in a situation where my phone would only boot to twrp no matter what I flashed or restored. I booted phone to fastboot, RSDlite'ed that 11-09-17 factory zip and all was well. In that particular case I did not fully install 7.x but immediately RSDlite'ed rafikowy's 8.0 signed stock and went on with my testing. Since then I always boot to TWRP rather than intalling it and do my thing. (thanks @jceballos )
When you used fastboot, did you see any 'security downgrade errors' when you flashed the bootloader, and is your bootloader version now C180, as you've flashed the Oreo OTA?
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Sorry - since it throws a million errors I never look at it if it works.
The particular build I am on at the moment - is BL: C1.82
This one started from that Nov '17 build and ota'ed all the way to 8.0 Apr.
I root and unroot as needed per rafikowy's method but using a boot to TWRP - never an install TWRP.
I'll put up a new guide ref ota and recovery and brick.
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If you have TWRP (or I assume any custom recovery) present when you try to ota, it can download just fine and then reboot to the update. I had TWRP and wound up in a situation where my phone would only boot to twrp no matter what I flashed or restored. I booted phone to fastboot, RSDlite'ed that 11-09-17 factory zip and all was well. In that particular case I did not fully install 7.x but immediately RSDlite'ed rafikowy's 8.0 signed stock and went on with my testing. Since then I always boot to TWRP rather than intalling it and do my thing. (thanks @jceballos )
Sorry - since it throws a million errors I never look at it if it works.
The particular build I am on at the moment - is BL: C1.82
This one started from that Nov '17 build and ota'ed all the way to 8.0 Apr.
I root and unroot as needed per rafikowy's method but using a boot to TWRP - never an install TWRP.
I'll put up a new guide ref ota and recovery and brick.
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1) If you have TWRP, then using an OTA will fail - as you've not got stock recovery (and likely other modifications, including possibly a system partition set to read-write status). As you noted, having TWRP seems to cause a bootloop when rebooting - I'm not sure if the OTA sets a boot flag to stay in recovery until the update is completed. For the G4/Plus, there's a possible solution by wiping the misc partition but I don't know if there's a similar partition for Z Play devices: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/help/troubleshooting-twrp-boot-loop-ota-t3714325
The only other solution I've seen is a clean flash of the stock ROM to get your device booting properly.
Booting to TWRP rather than flashing would mean your stock recovery is still present on your device. The only downside is if you need to make modifications, you'd need your computer to boot to TWRP.
2)BL C1.82 seems to be the bootloader provided by the Oreo April 2018 security patch update, so your device looks to be on the right bootloader. It's still curious that the Nov 2017 firmware worked whereas countless other 'factory' stock ROMs caused hard bricks when downgraded to and then OTA updates were installed.
As you mentioned, custom ROMs don't have bootloaders and thus don't care about your bootloader version usually (though I've seen some ROMs require a certain bootloader). However, stock ROMs and stock OTA updates do have bootloaders, which is why downgrading can be risky.
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1) If you have TWRP, then using an OTA will fail - as you've not got stock recovery (and likely other modifications, including possibly a system partition set to read-write status). As you noted, having TWRP seems to cause a bootloop when rebooting - I'm not sure if the OTA sets a boot flag to stay in recovery until the update is completed. For the G4/Plus, there's a possible solution by wiping the misc partition but I don't know if there's a similar partition for Z Play devices: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/help/troubleshooting-twrp-boot-loop-ota-t3714325
The only other solution I've seen is a clean flash of the stock ROM to get your device booting properly.
Booting to TWRP rather than flashing would mean your stock recovery is still present on your device. The only downside is if you need to make modifications, you'd need your computer to boot to TWRP.
2)BL C1.82 seems to be the bootloader provided by the Oreo April 2018 security patch update, so your device looks to be on the right bootloader. It's still curious that the Nov 2017 firmware worked whereas countless other 'factory' stock ROMs caused hard bricks when downgraded to and then OTA updates were installed.
As you mentioned, custom ROMs don't have bootloaders and thus don't care about your bootloader version usually (though I've seen some ROMs require a certain bootloader). However, stock ROMs and stock OTA updates do have bootloaders, which is why downgrading can be risky.
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Downgrading is a piece of cake if you don't use RSDlite - it throws an error and stops. Using the bat file it can happily throw all the errors it wants and all I care is at the end I have what I want.
It does indeed change the entire environment when you bat file the zip contents. You can bat file to get from 8 to 7 and then use RSDlite to flash a different 7 OR 8 zip file. There is no resulting difference in whether you RSDlite it or bat file it - the bat file simply comes from the .xml file that is within the zip. There is very little or no difference between that among addison factory/stock zips. Other zips are different (custom ROMs.)
Grab any factory/stock zip for addison and expand it and you will see modems, bootloaders, indeed absolutely everything you would find on that phone if you went to a store and bought it. SupahCookie simply added a couple lock command lines because it was intended for folks who somehow thought that if phone was locked they could take it back to the store and get their money back. Or some such. I found that ATT folk didn't care if you were on CM or whatever if you just needed to swap SIMs or whatever.
I DON'T want to lock the phone as it prevents me from modifying forever. Oh yeah that reminds me I was going to post the obligatory guide (again) about how to flash a white boot logo so you don't get that message - it's still there LOL but since the font is in white, you can't see it.
I have a Moto Z2 Play and used this to get out of a rather sticky situation.. My IEMI shows 0 now and I'm curious if there's a way to fix this? Also, You say you've done OTA updates? My phone is telling my I have some, is it safe to try?
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I have a Moto Z2 Play and used this to get out of a rather sticky situation.. My IEMI shows 0 now and I'm curious if there's a way to fix this? Also, You say you've done OTA updates? My phone is telling my I have some, is it safe to try?
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Thanks for feedback and great on success.
IMEI will show zero if using oreo, It will show again if using N. Remember that if you go from O to N you need to use the "Alternative to RSD" as RSD will simply throw an error and stop.
If you have TWRP and/or Magisk you must get rid of them before ota - if twrp present you will soft brick and have to do alternative again - flash a stock recovery. Simply uninstalling/flash magisk will probably not be enough - it will likely d/l but error part way through update. If you are sitting on rafikowy's stock oreo, and haven't modified it, you should be fine. I know Apr and June are out there. I flashed his stock 8.0 and took June fine. Z2 should be no different though of course I can't guarantee it
If you have success, let us know what you have done so others looking in will know. Thanks!
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Thanks for feedback and great on success.
IMEI will show zero if using oreo, It will show again if using N. Remember that if you go from O to N you need to use the "Alternative to RSD" as RSD will simply throw an error and stop.
If you have TWRP and/or Magisk you must get rid of them before ota - if twrp present you will soft brick and have to do alternative again - flash a stock recovery. Simply uninstalling/flash magisk will probably not be enough - it will likely d/l but error part way through update. If you are sitting on rafikowy's stock oreo, and haven't modified it, you should be fine. I know Apr and June are out there. I flashed his stock 8.0 and took June fine. Z2 should be no different though of course I can't guarantee it
If you have success, let us know what you have done so others looking in will know. Thanks!
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I actually flashed to this: ALBUS_C_7.1.1_NPS26.118-24_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip Which is a 7.1.1 variant and it is showing 0 when I check settings and when I dial *#06#. However upon connecting to the computer and running mfastboot getvar imei it returned a value. I only did the steps above which would mean I don't have TWRP or Magisk (when I fastboot and click recovery I get "no command")
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XT1710-01 Duel Sim Variant
I started your steps, only being able to access fastboot. The device would throw an error (I don't recall exactly but it ended up showing me them in the bootloader logs) whenever I tried to start it, or go to recovery. #DefinitelyThoughtItWasDead
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I actually flashed to this: ALBUS_C_7.1.1_NPS26.118-24_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip Which is a 7.1.1 variant and it is showing 0 when I check settings and when I dial *#06#. However upon connecting to the computer and running mfastboot getvar imei it returned a value. I only did the steps above which would mean I don't have TWRP or Magisk (when I fastboot and click recovery I get "no command")
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XT1710-01 Duel Sim Variant
I started your steps, only being able to access fastboot. The device would throw an error (I don't recall exactly but it ended up showing me them in the bootloader logs) whenever I tried to start it, or go to recovery. #DefinitelyThoughtItWasDead
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What rom was on phone when you got it and what have you done to it? Has it ever run 8.x?
original country of phone?
The bat file will always throw a lot of slot errors.
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/albus/official/RETUS/
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https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/albus/official/RETAIL/
might have some stock ROMs of interest...
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What rom was on phone when you got it and what have you done to it? Has it ever run 8.x?
original country of phone?
The bat file will always throw a lot of slot errors.
might have some stock ROMs of interest...
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It had 7.1.1 stock. I rooted it, and then flashed Resurrection Remix (which was yes 8.1 I believe) and the upgraded bootloader. I then found out my service wouldn't work with that.. so I attempted to flash back to stock which gave me a flurry of issues.. eventually getting to nothing but fastboot working. Flashed back to working with your guide to 7.1.1
If it helps in in fastboot it tells me BL: C0.CD
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It had 7.1.1 stock. I rooted it, and then flashed Resurrection Remix (which was yes 8.1 I believe) and the upgraded bootloader. I then found out my service wouldn't work with that.. so I attempted to flash back to stock which gave me a flurry of issues.. eventually getting to nothing but fastboot working. Flashed back to working with your guide to 7.1.1
If it helps in in fastboot it tells me BL: C0.CD
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Custom ROMs won't usually update the bootloader (even if they are newer) as stock ROMs typically only have the bootloader firmware.
You could look into flashing the stock Oreo albus 8.0 ROM https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-play/how-to/fastboot-rom-oreo-retail-via-fastboot-t3786153 or the 8.0 June 2018 firmware https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-play/how-to/fastboot-rom-albusretail8-0-0opss27-76-t3822195 but please check that firmware has been released for your device variant.
I don't know if updating your baseband to stock Oreo formally may fix your IMEI issue.
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It had 7.1.1 stock. I rooted it, and then flashed Resurrection Remix (which was yes 8.1 I believe) and the upgraded bootloader. I then found out my service wouldn't work with that.. so I attempted to flash back to stock which gave me a flurry of issues.. eventually getting to nothing but fastboot working. Flashed back to working with your guide to 7.1.1
If it helps in in fastboot it tells me BL: C0.CD
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"BL: C0.CD" even right after flashing that albus 7.1.1 using "alternative" above?
What happens if you flash one of the oreo roms from the links I gave you above?
Yeah, RR wouldn't change bootloaders... so you upgraded bootloaders independendently?- that could easily lead to a soft brick... -
I read RR on Z2 and it says nothing about bootloaders even though it says 8.1 based, so i wonder if it needs 7.x bootloaders? I did not read entire thread...
In a reverse, I would wonder if you put an 8 on there if you wouldn't see your IMEI. (On the Z if you flash 8 You won't see the IMEI until you return to 7.)(wondering if z2 is reversed)
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"BL: C0.CD" even right after flashing that albus 7.1.1 using "alternative" above?
What happens if you flash one of the oreo roms from the links I gave you above?
Yeah, RR wouldn't change bootloaders... so you upgraded bootloaders independendently?- that could easily lead to a soft brick... -
I read RR on Z2 and it says nothing about bootloaders even though it says 8.1 based, so i wonder if it needs 7.x bootloaders? I did not read entire thread...
In a reverse, I would wonder if you put an 8 on there if you wouldn't see your IMEI. (On the Z if you flash 8 You won't see the IMEI until you return to 7.)(wondering if z2 is reversed)
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Yes, right after flashing that is the BL that fastboot is showing me. I don't recall updating the bootloader so to speak, however RR did require an updated variant of twrp which I flashed 3.2.2 I believe to get (unsure if that would have changed the bootloader or not). I also tried flashing a stock Oreo (which you've stated stock Roms usually only have the bootloaders so maybe somewhere during this process I updated it?). I wish I had all the notes for what I did to give more precise information, but I'm in a position where I really need my phone so I kinda just panicked and started flashing things when my service wouldn't work.
I'm highly considering trying to run an OTA (though very afraid of bricking). - On a side note though, it wouldn't even tell me I had OTA's until I did the steps in the original post here (doing the different 7.1.1. and 8.0 flashes, it wouldn't ever tell me I had updates, and now it does).
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Looks like I'm able to enter stock recovery, which makes me believe everything is stock at the moment.
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Yes, right after flashing that is the BL that fastboot is showing me. I don't recall updating the bootloader so to speak, however RR did require an updated variant of twrp which I flashed 3.2.2 I believe to get (unsure if that would have changed the bootloader or not). I also tried flashing a stock Oreo (which you've stated stock Roms usually only have the bootloaders so maybe somewhere during this process I updated it?). I wish I had all the notes for what I did to give more precise information, but I'm in a position where I really need my phone so I kinda just panicked and started flashing things when my service wouldn't work.
I'm highly considering trying to run an OTA (though very afraid of bricking). - On a side note though, it wouldn't even tell me I had OTA's until I did the steps in the original post here (doing the different 7.1.1. and 8.0 flashes, it wouldn't ever tell me I had updates, and now it does).
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Looks like I'm able to enter stock recovery, which makes me believe everything is stock at the moment.
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If you flashed a stock O that would have changed bl to O, but doing the above with the stock 7.1.1 would have changed them back to N. No matter (other than academic) that you don't remember the path - flashing a stock anything reverts it to that point in time. However, IMEI may have been moved - don't know. It will likely show on EITHER 7.x or 8.x stock - just don't know which.
If you flash a stock 8.x from those links I gave you above, it should offer you ota, ASSUMING there are any at this point in time(Z has 2). Adding Magisk at any point seems to hose you for receiving any more ota's - don't understand why, even with magisk uninstall, so that would mean going back to the latest stock and losing what you have (which is why I try to take a TBPro and copy that backup to PC (because re-flashing 8.x stock will likely reset internal storage.).
yes, if you enter stock recovery, you are likely at stock, though you could reflash the latest 7 or 8 stock to be sure, depending on which you want to use as base. Since 8 is having security fixes released, I choose 8 and will likely have no more interest (no time!) in 7.
So, ran the OTA and it was fine running the update and staying on N. I also downloaded the OTA for Oreo, when trying to update the recovery error'd out. It looked like the error said "Error in modem unexpected results" or something similar.
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So, ran the OTA and it was fine running the update and staying on N. I also downloaded the OTA for Oreo, when trying to update the recovery error'd out. It looked like the error said "Error in modem unexpected results" or something similar.
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did it offer to let you d/l it again? you could try that.
However, there exist O stock zips in those links I gave you so you could just flash the latest...
Hi,
I have a Nexus 6P that has Android 7.1.2 (N2G47W) installed. I've just unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP then installed Magisk 16.0 for root.
I'd like to next downgrade from Nougat to Marshmallow. Are there any steps to do so? Can I just boot to TWRP, and immediately install the factory image from https://developers.google.com/android/images#angler?
Or are there any additional steps I need to take?
@goister You can't with TWRP download marshmallow from Google API site. Maybe do a good wipe in TWRP before hand of course back up anything important on comouter. Then follow the hiesenberg guide for returning to stock. Your in luck cause I've read with being on the latest Oreo can no longer return to marshmallow or nougat though I haven't verified myself. Best of luck mate.
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@goister You can't with TWRP download marshmallow from Google API site. Maybe do a good wipe in TWRP before hand of course back up anything important on comouter. Then follow the hiesenberg guide for returning to stock. Your in luck cause I've read with being on the latest Oreo can no longer return to marshmallow or nougat though I haven't verified myself. Best of luck mate.
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Hi,
Not sure I get your post. My Nexus 6P is stock except for an unlocked bootloader, TWRP and Magisk root. Are you saying follow the guide at https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928 specifically step 10. How To Flash The Factory Images (And Return To Stock)?
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Hi,
Not sure I get your post. My Nexus 6P is stock except for an unlocked bootloader, TWRP and Magisk root. Are you saying follow the guide at https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928 specifically step 10. How To Flash The Factory Images (And Return To Stock)?
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That's exactly what I'm saying unless you want to flash a marshmallow ROM. Then you can use TWRP but would still need 6.0 gapps and a computer to fastboot flash MM bootloader of that months build. MM vendor could be flashed by either fastboot or TWRP. Your best to download a MM build from Google site. Then unzip that folder and inside unzip again. You will get all the bootloader, vendor (radio optional) you will need for that months MM build. Then follow the guide from hiesenberg for returning to stock . Best to put all the images files and fastboot in the folder that is suggested in the guide . That way you can copy and paste the commands as written on the guide. There might be a flash all bat file you can use in the stock folder but not sure if MM had that I never used. If you have any more questions feel free to ask.
Yes I intend to flash the stock Marshmallow ROM from https://developers.google.com/android/images#angler specifically the latest one (MTC20L). My end goal is a rooted Nexus 6P with the MTC20L firmware. Wouldn't the stock Google build already have gapps? I don't intend to use a 3rd party ROM.
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Yes I intend to flash the stock Marshmallow ROM from https://developers.google.com/android/images#angler specifically the latest one (MTC20L). My end goal is a rooted Nexus 6P with the MTC20L firmware. Wouldn't the stock Google build already have gapps? I don't intend to use a 3rd party ROM.
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Yes that's right gapps not needed with stock. Wasn't sure on your level of experience so mentioned that with a ROM you would need gapps of that android version . If I where you I would back up my phone completey and wipe everything in TWRP including internal before hand. So many times files get left behind especially using different versions of android to avoid any issues. Be warned though wiping internal includes pictures, downloads, music, documents etc.
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Yes that's right gapps not needed with stock. Wasn't sure on your level of experience so mentioned that with a ROM you would need gapps of that android version . If I where you I would back up my phone completey and wipe everything in TWRP including internal before hand. So many times files get left behind especially using different versions of android to avoid any issues. Be warned though wiping internal includes pictures, downloads, music, documents etc.
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Thanks. I've no issues wiping the phone as this is pretty much a fresh phone. There's nothing to even back up. The only thing I've done so far beyond rooting, was to import a certificate into /system. I suppose a factory reset would delete this certificate and bring it back to stock (but rooted)? Or should I wipe with TWRP instead?
Looking at the zip file of the stock ROM, here's what I see
bootloader-angler-angler-03.54.img
flash-all.bat
flash-all.sh
flash-base.sh
image-angler-mtc20l
radio-angler-angler-03.61.img
After wiping with TWRP, would I be able to run flash-all?
Edit: I've just TWRP wiped everything, and rebooted. However, the device is stuck at the initial "Google" screen with the lock icon at the button. How long is it supposed to take to boot up after a full TWRP wipe?
OK I solved the problem. Apparently if you reboot after the flash, you need to disconnect the USB cable, else it will boot loop.