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I am able to flash stock firmware with fastboot, however recovery.img and boot.img always fail with "(bootloader) image signed with key bad key"... doesnt matter if its 139.48-49-64 or the nougat soak test. I have xt1625 US retail, i made sure im using the correct non-amazon US firmware...
It boots up and runs properly, and i can install twrp... however, im unable to install the OTA updates without stock recovery, so im stuck on NPJ25.93-11 instead of 14
anybody have any similar issue?
That error with the boot.img and recovery.img, if I recall, usually shows up - provided after the warning the log says they were flashed okay, then you shouldn't have any problems, as you've experienced.
Yup, you cannot install any OTA updates from Motorola once you've modified your system - you need to be on stock recovery and system. Unlocking your bootloader is okay, but modifying your recovery, kernel, or any other part of your system may stop the OTA from installing. Your possible options are to re-flash the 93-11 update and download the 93-14 OTA if it's available in your region, or fastboot one of the 93-14 ROMs in the Guides section (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369)
ourangashane said:
I am able to flash stock firmware with fastboot, however recovery.img and boot.img always fail with "(bootloader) image signed with key bad key"... doesnt matter if its 139.48-49-64 or the nougat soak test. I have xt1625 US retail, i made sure im using the correct non-amazon US firmware...
It boots up and runs properly, and i can install twrp... however, im unable to install the OTA updates without stock recovery, so im stuck on NPJ25.93-11 instead of 14
anybody have any similar issue?
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When and how did you get the Nougat update for the XT1625? I am on stock and have not received it, nor have I seen any update from Motorola available for it.
pastorbob62 said:
When and how did you get the Nougat update for the XT1625? I am on stock and have not received it, nor have I seen any update from Motorola available for it.
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Likely fastboot'ed one of the Nougat images in the Guides section; I've not seen any mentions of OTA updates in the US either - Canada and Brazil appear to have received it thus far, hopefully the US isn't far behind!
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Likely fastboot'ed one of the Nougat images in the Guides section; I've not seen any mentions of OTA updates in the US either - Canada and Brazil appear to have received it thus far, hopefully the US isn't far behind!
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That would be my guess as well. I don't get why some are so impatient to get Nougat that they risk flashing firmware not intended for their devices. Then they wonder why they are having issues. Oh well!
pastorbob62 said:
When and how did you get the Nougat update for the XT1625? I am on stock and have not received it, nor have I seen any update from Motorola available for it.
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No, no update yet.... i just flashed the indian version from the forum..
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That error with the boot.img and recovery.img, if I recall, usually shows up - provided after the warning the log says they were flashed okay, then you shouldn't have any problems, as you've experienced.
Yup, you cannot install any OTA updates from Motorola once you've modified your system - you need to be on stock recovery and system. Unlocking your bootloader is okay, but modifying your recovery, kernel, or any other part of your system may stop the OTA from installing. Your possible options are to re-flash the 93-11 update and download the 93-14 OTA if it's available in your region, or fastboot one of the 93-14 ROMs in the Guides section (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369)
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Had i just used my eyes lol... Id been looking for a fastboot 93-14, i must have been way too tired lol.. thank you
If some of the more experienced people here could check my steps for returning to stock, I'd really appreciate it. I have some questions and also want to confirm that I correctly understand how to do some of the others. Thanks.
My XT-1575 is running 6.0 build number MPHS24-49-18-16. I would like to change ROMs (probably to Lineage OS 14.1) but be able to return to the same build at a later time. I do not want to update the Moto firmware to 7.0.
Steps:
1) Use the instructions in the thread: [GUIDE] [XT1575] Return to stock and relock bootloader by @acejavelin
2) Download the latest 6.0 factory image available (MPHS24.49-18-8) with the link in the thread and place it in the adb platform-tools directory
3) Open a command prompt in the platform-tools directory and issue the commands listed in the thread to flash the firmware. This will not lock the bootloader because this is an earlier build.
4) As shown in the thread, go to @annoyingduck's post (post #366) to get the OTA .zip to go from 18-8 to 18-16
5) This needs to be sideloaded.Is TWRP used for this? Will TWRP still be in recovery after running the commands in step 3? Do I need to flash TWRP to recovery? When I flash the OTA, will this replace TWRP with the stock recovery?
6) Is there an additional step(s) to lock the bootloader? The instructions say flashing an older build will fail at locking the bootloader. Instead, the OTA is flashed manually, but how does the bootloader get relocked?
7) Are there any additional steps to return to official status to pass safetynet and get OTAs?
xdafan15 said:
If some of the more experienced people here could check my steps for returning to stock, I'd really appreciate it. I have some questions and also want to confirm that I correctly understand how to do some of the others. Thanks.
My XT-1575 is running 6.0 build number MPHS24-49-18-16. I would like to change ROMs (probably to Lineage OS 14.1) but be able to return to the same build at a later time. I do not want to update the Moto firmware to 7.0.
Steps:
1) Use the instructions in the thread: [GUIDE] [XT1575] Return to stock and relock bootloader by @acejavelin
2) Download the latest 6.0 factory image available (MPHS24.49-18-8) with the link in the thread and place it in the adb platform-tools directory
3) Open a command prompt in the platform-tools directory and issue the commands listed in the thread to flash the firmware. This will not lock the bootloader because this is an earlier build.
4) As shown in the thread, go to @annoyingduck's post (post #366) to get the OTA .zip to go from 18-8 to 18-16
5) This needs to be sideloaded.Is TWRP used for this? Will TWRP still be in recovery after running the commands in step 3? Do I need to flash TWRP to recovery? When I flash the OTA, will this replace TWRP with the stock recovery?
6) Is there an additional step(s) to lock the bootloader? The instructions say flashing an older build will fail at locking the bootloader. Instead, the OTA is flashed manually, but how does the bootloader get relocked?
7) Are there any additional steps to return to official status to pass safetynet and get OTAs?
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All of these questions are answered in the threads you referenced...
1) Yup, that's fine.
2) Same, remember to extract it... Although I would recommend extracting it to a unique directory and add platform-tools to your path
3) Correct, sort of... You cannot use an older firmware to lock, but there are specific commands to attempt a lock and to just flash. When downgrading be aware gpt.bin (partition table) and bootloader.img may fail and that is normal.
4) Yup, good there
5) Sideload in this regard is accomplished through stock recovery, start stock recovery and select "Apply update from ADB" then execute "adb sideload update.zip"
6) Your only option at this time to lock the bootloader is to flash a Nougat firmware image... We do not have a Marshmallow 18-16 image and without one you cannot lock the bootloader, no matter how much you downgrade.
7) "Official" status is not required to pass SafetyNet API check on Marshmallow or Nougat, but you must have a purely stock /boot, /recovery, and /system partition. On Nougat you must also have a locked bootloader. The only way to get back to "Official" status is to flash an official firmware image and then take an official OTA successfully.
Thanks for your help, @acejavelin! Some further clarifying questions-
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3) Correct, sort of... You cannot use an older firmware to lock, but there are specific commands to attempt a lock and to just flash. When downgrading be aware gpt.bin (partition table) and bootloader.img may fail and that is normal.
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I assumed I would just copy and paste the commands you provided exactly as listed. Is that OK? Or do I need to substitute the commands you showed at the bottom:
fastboot oem fb_mode_set instead of fastboot oem lock begin
fastboot oem fb_mode_clear instead of fastboot oem lock
Or it doesn't matter?
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6) Your only option at this time to lock the bootloader is to flash a Nougat firmware image... We do not have a Marshmallow 18-16 image and without one you cannot lock the bootloader, no matter how much you downgrade.
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And the way to do this is to flash NPH25.200-22 from adb fastboot as shown in your other thread, correct? Can I also take the Moto OTA from 18-16 (the one I am currently being offered)?
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7) "Official" status is not required to pass SafetyNet API check on Marshmallow or Nougat, but you must have a purely stock /boot, /recovery, and /system partition. On Nougat you must also have a locked bootloader. The only way to get back to "Official" status is to flash an official firmware image and then take an official OTA successfully.
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So you are saying that if I follow the instructions to return to 18-16 I will be able to recieve OTAs and will pass safetynet. Only downside is that my bootloader will remain unlocked?
By flashing the Nougat image, my bootloader can be locked (part of the sequence of commands)
but only by doing this plus accepting a future OTA will the status return to "official"?
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Thanks for your help, @acejavelin! Some further clarifying questions-
I assumed I would just copy and paste the commands you provided exactly as listed. Is that OK? Or do I need to substitute the commands you showed at the bottom:
fastboot oem fb_mode_set instead of fastboot oem lock begin
fastboot oem fb_mode_clear instead of fastboot oem lock
Or it doesn't matter?
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Using the 'oem lock' commands will fail, and it will get stuck in fb_mode that you have to clear. Better to just use the fb_mode commands up front.
xdafan15 said:
And the way to do this is to flash NPH25.200-22 from adb fastboot as shown in your other thread, correct? Can I also take the Moto OTA from 18-16 (the one I am currently being offered)?
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Guess I am confused... if you flash NPH25.200-22 you won't be offered 18-16 OTA, but will likely be offered the NPHS25-201.1 update. If you are on 18-8 and are pure stock you can accept the 18-16 update, and within 24 hours after that is successfully applied you should be offered the Nougat update(s).
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So you are saying that if I follow the instructions to return to 18-16 I will be able to recieve OTAs and will pass safetynet. Only downside is that my bootloader will remain unlocked?
By flashing the Nougat image, my bootloader can be locked (part of the sequence of commands)
but only by doing this plus accepting a future OTA will the status return to "official"?
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You can chose whether to lock the bootloader or not by flashing the Nougat image, the question is which do you want? Just flashing an image won't make your software status "official" in most cases. We have seen some cases where it does, but we don't know why and in most cases it will stay unofficial until you accept an OTA update, then somehow it miraculously becomes official. The key to remember here is once you accept an OTA that is a higher version than the stock images we have, you have no way to lock the bootloader, so if you want to lock your bootloader in your current state the only possible way is to flash the NPH25.200-22 image using the locking commands, because if you don't lock at this point and accept an OTA update you cannot relock the bootloader until (or if) we get a newer factory image.
One more thing to keep in mind, if you accept an OTA to Nougat or manually upgrade, and decide to downgrade to Marshmallow, it is possible, but once this is done do NOT accept any OTA updates back to Nougat, it will hard brick... and I mean perma-brick such that a mainboard replacement is necessary to fix it, which Moto won't do because you unlocked the bootloader, so basically the phone is trash.
@acejavelin, thanks again and sorry for asking so many questions. For those of us who only play around at this stuff, it is hard to keep this all in our heads. Especially since a wrong move can hard brick the phone as you mentioned.
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Guess I am confused... if you flash NPH25.200-22 you won't be offered 18-16 OTA, but will likely be offered the NPHS25-201.1 update. If you are on 18-8 and are pure stock you can accept the 18-16 update, and within 24 hours after that is successfully applied you should be offered the Nougat update(s).
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Interesting- You say if I return to stock 18-8, Moto will offer me the 18-16 OTA first, I won't be offered Nougat directly?
Since I would want to relock the bootloader, is there any reason not to just go directly from Lineage OS to NPH25.200-22?
The string of commands to issue (shown in the "return to stock" thread) is the same whether it is a MM or Nougat image that is being flashed, correct?
acejavelin said:
One more thing to keep in mind, if you accept an OTA to Nougat or manually upgrade, and decide to downgrade to Marshmallow, it is possible, but once this is done do NOT accept any OTA updates back to Nougat, it will hard brick... and I mean perma-brick....
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If I downgrade to MM and then flash the NPH25.200-22 image, at that point is it again OK to take an OTA to NPHS25-201.1 with causing problems?
Does it matter if the Nougat version I was originally on before downgrading was 200-22 vs 201.1?
Thanks again!
xdafan15 said:
@acejavelin, thanks again and sorry for asking so many questions. For those of us who only play around at this stuff, it is hard to keep this all in our heads. Especially since a wrong move can hard brick the phone as you mentioned.
Interesting- You say if I return to stock 18-8, Moto will offer me the 18-16 OTA first, I won't be offered Nougat directly?
Since I would want to relock the bootloader, is there any reason not to just go directly from Lineage OS to NPH25.200-22?
The string of commands to issue (shown in the "return to stock" thread) is the same whether it is a MM or Nougat image that is being flashed, correct?
If I downgrade to MM and then flash the NPH25.200-22 image, at that point is it again OK to take an OTA to NPHS25-201.1 with causing problems?
Does it matter if the Nougat version I was originally on before downgrading was 200-22 vs 201.1?
Thanks again!
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Yes
No
Yes, except watch the number of sparse chunks
Yes, as long as you flash the full image and not as an OTA.
No
I guess this conversation is going all over the place... are you wanting to return to stock and lock the bootloader or run a custom ROM? You can't really do both. If you want to return to stock, that depends on your current version, if you want to run custom there are less constraints. This is a 2 year old device, just pick one and go with it.
Thanks for your patience with me, @acejavelin.
My intent is to switch to Lineage OS now, but make sure I understand the correct steps to return to stock in the future if I want to. I wanted to confirm that info before everyone is gone from the Moto X Pure forum. I tend to keep my phones for a long time.
I think I've got it now, but I do want to ask 1 more clarifying question:
I asked "If I downgrade to MM and then flash the NPH25.200-22 image, at that point is it again OK to take an OTA to NPHS25-201.1 with causing problems?"
and you answered
"Yes, as long as you flash the full image and not as an OTA."
Do you mean
(A) as long as I flash the full 25.200-22 image and then take the OTA (which motorola will offer to me at that point to get to 25-201.1),
OR
(B) did you mean after flashing the image to get to 25.200-22, I cannot take the OTA to 25-201.1, but must wait until (if) someone posts the image file for 25-201.1 and flash that?
Sorry for asking so many questions. I really appreciate it
xdafan15 said:
Thanks for your patience with me, @acejavelin.
My intent is to switch to Lineage OS now, but make sure I understand the correct steps to return to stock in the future if I want to. I wanted to confirm that info before everyone is gone from the Moto X Pure forum. I tend to keep my phones for a long time.
I think I've got it now, but I do want to ask 1 more clarifying question:
I asked "If I downgrade to MM and then flash the NPH25.200-22 image, at that point is it again OK to take an OTA to NPHS25-201.1 with causing problems?"
and you answered
"Yes, as long as you flash the full image and not as an OTA."
Do you mean
(A) as long as I flash the full 25.200-22 image and then take the OTA (which motorola will offer to me at that point to get to 25-201.1),
OR
(B) did you mean after flashing the image to get to 25.200-22, I cannot take the OTA to 25-201.1, but must wait until (if) someone posts the image file for 25-201.1 and flash that?
Sorry for asking so many questions. I really appreciate it
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Honestly, the smart bet would be to flash the NPH25.200-22 image, then do NOT take any OTA. Then go ahead and flash TWRP and LineageOS. You can always go back to the full image without issues of "downgrading".
At this time the 25.200-22 image is the newest we have and downgrading can never be perfect. If there is no reason to take the OTA (like you are going to just flash Lineage anyway), then don't take it... At least you have an easy out.
The main reason for this is we don't have an image for 25-201.2 and we don't know when, or even if, we ever will. For example, we never did get an image of Marshmallow 18-16 and at this point I doubt we ever will.
Thanks for the excellent support, @acejavelin! That's why I love XDA.
@acejavelin I was on official (stock) 7.0, build NPH25.200-23. I installed unofficial LOS 14.1 (by Hashbang) because I have the N modem, and official LOS 14.1 only supports the M modem. I later decided to go back to stock. As we all know the NPH25.200-23 factory images have not yet been (or ever will be) released, so I followed your guide on how to revert to stock, except I flashed the available NPH25.200-22 partitions (the ones that flashed, anyway, minus the ones that gave Preflash Validation Error) without relocking the bootloader, and now I am back to NPH25.200-22. I also immediately received the notification for the -23 OTA but I did not install it. My question is this: Can I accept the -23 OTA or will I risk bricking? I never downgraded to M, I only had unofficial LOS 14.1 builds, and now the stock -22 build.
My battery is acting all weird, shutting down at about 70%, plugging it again and showing 50%. When I boot, if I unplug it will immediately shut down. Basically it's plugged in the whole time. I have no idea what's causing this, the fact that I flashed unofficial LOS, or because of a faulty battery since I had changed it before flashing LOS), or because of partitions mismatch. So I'm trying to narrow it down and pinpoint the cause. But it seems that every time I try something, it makes the battery worse.
The battery is probably reaching the end of it's life...
You can accept the -23 OTA, the risks are minimal if everything you told me is correct.
acejavelin said:
The battery is probably reaching the end of it's life...
You can accept the -23 OTA, the risks are minimal if everything you told me is correct.
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Thanks for the reply. Are you sure that taking the OTA on mismatched partitions (bootloader and gpt from -22 and everything else from -23) would not brick? There have been cases like that in the past (https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/warning-hard-bricking-downgrading-t3116379) on the Moto X 2nd Gen because the updater script did not have the correct checks to prevent a brick. Maybe it was the case when downgrading to a previous full version i.e. from 5.1 to 4.4.4, or just on older phones/older versions. Do we know if the updater script from -22 to -23 has to correct checks to prevent a brick?
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Thanks for the reply. Are you sure that taking the OTA on mismatched partitions (bootloader and gpt from -22 and everything else from -23) would not brick? There have been cases like that in the past (https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/warning-hard-bricking-downgrading-t3116379) on the Moto X 2nd Gen because the updater script did not have the correct checks to prevent a brick. Maybe it was the case when downgrading to a previous full version i.e. from 5.1 to 4.4.4, or just on older phones/older versions. Do we know if the updater script from -22 to -23 has to correct checks to prevent a brick?
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Your not downgrading... Either it will work or the checks will fail. The chances of bricking are minimal.
The issue of the MM vs. N modems is part of the reason I started this thread. My understanding was that official Lineage OS 14.1 would only work properly if the phone was still running MM firmware because LOS 14.1 was not configured to handle the N modem as written above by @discovery94. It seems like the unofficial LOS 14 by @Hashbang173 has some problems, so it seemed safer to stay on MM. But @acejavelin's advice to me was to upgrade to N before switching ROMS which would seem to severely limit choices of ROMs
I guess the options are stay on MM and have a large selection of ROMS (including official LOS 14.1)
or upgrade to N and only select form Hashbang's LOS, RR by LuisG, and AOSP EX by Obsolete1,
or maybe upgrade to N, then extract the modem from MM stock firmware and flash it to avoid the modem mismatch problem.
Have I summed this up properly?
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Your not downgrading... Either it will work or the checks will fail. The chances of bricking are minimal.
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So the OTA was unsuccessful. The recovery first showed installing update, then displayed "Error", and then the phone rebooted and displayed an update not successful screen (Images attached). I guess the only way is to use the factory images, but I won't even get my hopes up for that.
Will i recive OTA update if i unlock the bootloader?
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Will i recive OTA update if i unlock the bootloader?
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Yes. Just unlocking the bootloader still allows everything to work normally, though you can't install otas if you mounted or modified /system and /oem partitions, or have twrp recovery.
Otherwise your phone should still function as if it weren't unlocked.
In addition to the above reply - if you do modify your system and want to flash back to stock firmware, please check if you can download the correct firmware for your device. I see from your history you have a retEU device, so the latest series of firmwares would be the NPNS25.137-93 series (with NPNS25.137-93-10 being the April 2018 security patch). I'd suggest checking to see if there is a stock ROM matching your current build before you unlock the bootloader (either at https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/ or https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5 Plus/Stock/ or https://androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=171014 ) though it seems the latest firmware that's been leaked is NPNS25.137-93-4 (the Jan 2018 security patch build). Just as a headsup, firmware.center has a cryptominer that could keep your CPU at 100 % if you have their page open.
If you download and flash the NPNS25.137-92-10 firmware, which is the April 2018 security patch for Brazil/India devices, you may be able to re-lock your bootloader and get back to full stock, but you may not be able to receive OTA updates (as the NPNS25.137-92 series of updates do not appear to be deployed to the retEU channel), so be careful which firmware you flash.
You can still unlock your bootloader without having the latest firmware to hand, but until the firmware matching your stock firmware before you unlocked or newer is available, you may not be able to re-lock your device. You may be able to flash older stock firmware for EU devices, but please do not use OTA updates if you flash older stock firmware, else you may hard brick your device.
Good luck whichever way you decide.
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Yes. Just unlocking the bootloader still allows everything to work normally, though you can't install otas if you mounted or modified /system and /oem partitions, or have twrp recovery.
Otherwise, your phone should still function as if it weren't unlocked.
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Yes the Same thing Happened
I had TWRP recovery and I installed the Security Patch
my Phone Stuck at TWRP
but it has One solution
First, take the data backup of all in twrp at your sd card
now install any custom Rom
Reboot your device and check the rom is working or not
do reboot and go back to your Twrp and Restore the backup
I tested it and It worked perfectly
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In addition to the above reply - if you do modify your system and want to flash back to stock firmware, please check if you can download the correct firmware for your device. I see from your history you have a retEU device, so the latest series of firmwares would be the NPNS25.137-93 series (with NPNS25.137-93-10 being the April 2018 security patch). I'd suggest checking to see if there is a stock ROM matching your current build before you unlock the bootloader (either at https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/ or https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5 Plus/Stock/ or https://androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=171014 ) though it seems the latest firmware that's been leaked is NPNS25.137-93-4 (the Jan 2018 security patch build). Just as a headsup, firmware.center has a cryptominer that could keep your CPU at 100 % if you have their page open.
If you download and flash the NPNS25.137-92-10 firmware, which is the April 2018 security patch for Brazil/India devices, you may be able to re-lock your bootloader and get back to full stock, but you may not be able to receive OTA updates (as the NPNS25.137-92 series of updates do not appear to be deployed to the retEU channel), so be careful which firmware you flash.
You can still unlock your bootloader without having the latest firmware to hand, but until the firmware matching your stock firmware before you unlocked or newer is available, you may not be able to re-lock your device. You may be able to flash older stock firmware for EU devices, but please do not use OTA updates if you flash older stock firmware, else you may hard brick your device.
Good luck whichever way you decide.
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I would unlock the bootloader just to try to fix the camera (then edit the system files), not for flash twrp / custom rom
Androidtroll said:
I would unlock the bootloader just to try to fix the camera (then edit the system files), not for flash twrp / custom rom
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Just unlocking the BL wouldn't be enough to edit system files. You'll need root privileges to do so and for that you will have to flash/boot TWRP to install a root app like magisk.
So all the useful information @echo92 posted above is significant for you.
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Is there a way to take TWRP off or disable to still grab the security patches? Or is clean install/backup (like Rutambh mentioned) the only option? The reason I ask I needed TWRP to install camera mod, so it would be nice to still get those OTA's. I tried to just fastboot boot TWRP but it would just hang at it's logo. Flash was only option.
Frawgg said:
Is there a way to take TWRP off or disable to still grab the security patches? Or is clean install/backup (like Rutambh mentioned) the only option? The reason I ask I needed TWRP to install camera mod, so it would be nice to still get those OTA's. I tried to just fastboot boot TWRP but it would just hang at it's logo. Flash was only option.
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If anything in /system or /oem is tampered like installing a camera mod (or just mounting system r/w) the only way to receive future OTA updates is flashing your current ROM incl. stock recovery via fastboot.
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I am not responsible for your bricked phone or pigeon poo on your toupe. Do at your own risk.
Many thanks to @SupahCookie for idea and motivation!
INTENTIONALLY DOES --NOT-- LOCK BOOTLOADER!!!
Get factory images here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...ock-images-t3736767/post75236696#post75236696
THIS GUIDE IS FOR FACTORY/STOCK ROMs - NOT YOUR AVERAGE CUSTOM ROM which may not have bootloaders!!! (thanks!!!!! @echo92 )
FIX:
IF YOU ARE ABLE TO GET TO FASTBOOT THIS SHOULD WORK.
IF YOU HAVE 8.x bootloaders AND ARE DOWNGRADING TO 7, use "Alternative to RSDlite" below.
1 boot to win - 7 or 10 works fine.
2 boot phone to fastboot, and connect phone to computer.
3 start RSDlite
pick a ROM. I believe I used a 7.1.1 rom
3Nov9-ADDISON_NPNS26.118-22-2-8_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
RSDlite installed it and fixed the problem.
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I was then able to use RSDlite to install @rafikowy 's signed 8.0 . - going up from 7 to 8.
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If you are on 8.x bootloaders and want to go to 7.x bootloaders, use this (RSDlite throws an error and stops):
ALTERNATIVE TO RSDlite:
1 I used 7zip to extract that 7.1.1 zip (or any ROM zip) into a folder x,
2 add all the adb and fastboot junk to folder x,
3 add the attached file (rename it to flash.bat) to folder x.
4 boot phone to fastboot and connect to computer.
5 click on flash.bat - it throws a lot of "slot" errors but works just fine.
6 reboot your phone if it hasn't already and go through the 7.x install stuffs.
7 you will not show an IMEI if you are coming from an 8.x bootloader. However, it IS there.
NOTE: you may need to add a line to the flash.bat if there are more/less sparsechunk's in your FACTORY/STOCK ROM...
THIS IS NOT FOR CUSTOM ROMs!!!!!!!
EDIT: 3-8-19: I just did this myself to go back very briefly to 7.1 - be sure you don't flash TWRP to it if your going to take OTAs - it will brick it. boot to TWRP if you need TWRP briefly: fastboot boot twrpimg.img
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If you can boot to fastboot screen, you can do anything.
Never OTA a ROM if you have modified recovery (TWRP, etc) or if magisk is present.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...p-flashing-t3813498/post77011495#post77011495
I changed the attached file to add pause and reboot and exit to make it slightly more automated.
I have successfully used this many times going back and forth. If you can boot to fastboot screen, you can save your phone and flash anything you want.
You may wish to advise users that if they downgrade to Nougat not to use Nougat OTA updates. The reason being that a downgraded stock Oreo device may still have the Oreo bootloader on it. Thus, attempting to use Nougat OTA updates may hard brick their device (as the bootloader is likely corrupted, meaning no fastboot).
Users could either use the Feb 2018 NPN26.118-22-2-17 firmware from your link https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETAIL/ as that was the last Nougat firmware (and thus no Nougat OTA updates) or avoid using OTA updates whilst downgraded.
echo92 said:
You may wish to advise users that if they downgrade to Nougat not to use Nougat OTA updates. The reason being that a downgraded stock Oreo device may still have the Oreo bootloader on it. Thus, attempting to use Nougat OTA updates may hard brick their device (as the bootloader is likely corrupted, meaning no fastboot).
Users could either use the Feb 2018 NPN26.118-22-2-17 firmware from your link https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/addison/official/RETAIL/ as that was the last Nougat firmware (and thus no Nougat OTA updates) or avoid using OTA updates whilst downgraded.
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Interesting. I used the above GUIDE to go up and down a number of times on my phone (about 20 total) , installing and running on both 7 and 8, and then went down to a Nov 7.1.1 and let it ota all the way up to 8.0 and that is what I am using now. I found that when i used a factory zip, and the above procedure, it corrected the bootloaders to the appropriate version that i was flashing - either RSDlite or the more manual path which ignores the errors worked for me.
Using the above procedure , you get the correct bootloaders, which are in the zip.
Please correct me if i am wrong!
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Interesting. I used the above GUIDE to go up and down a number of times on my phone (about 20 total) , installing and running on both 7 and 8, and then went down to a Nov 7.1.1 and let it ota all the way up to 8.0 and that is what I am using now. I found that when i used a factory zip, and the above procedure, it corrected the bootloaders to the appropriate version that i was flashing - either RSDlite or the more manual path which ignores the errors worked for me.
Using the above procedure , you get the correct bootloaders, which are in the zip.
Please correct me if i am wrong!
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That's intriguing - we saw previously on Z Play that users downgrading their stock firmware (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/help/hard-brick-moto-z-play-patch-abril-t3782927 )and then using OTA updates hard bricked their device (hence the number of users asking for a blankflash, as fastboot no longer works). I don't know if these users hard bricked by downgrading their firmware too far and then flashed an OTA radically different to their previous firmware, or whether it's a risk that's taken by any downgrading of firmware.
When you used fastboot, did you see any 'security downgrade errors' when you flashed the bootloader, and is your bootloader version now C180, as you've flashed the Oreo OTA?
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That's intriguing - we saw previously on Z Play that users downgrading their stock firmware (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/help/hard-brick-moto-z-play-patch-abril-t3782927 )and then using OTA updates hard bricked their device (hence the number of users asking for a blankflash, as fastboot no longer works). I don't know if these users hard bricked by downgrading their firmware too far and then flashed an OTA radically different to their previous firmware, or whether it's a risk that's taken by any downgrading of firmware.
When you used fastboot, did you see any 'security downgrade errors' when you flashed the bootloader, and is your bootloader version now C180, as you've flashed the Oreo OTA?
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YES - that's why I wrote these 3 guides - before, it was quite possible to wind up with a bootloader mix - esp depending on the zip you use! - factory/stock only!!!
I added a line to the guide saying that it is only intended to be used for the factory/stock zips as these have (I believe) the bootloaders appropriate to the ROM.
Many thanks for pursuing this! - I wonder if we'll have to exclude certain ROMs that are in the factory lists?????
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That's intriguing - we saw previously on Z Play that users downgrading their stock firmware (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/help/hard-brick-moto-z-play-patch-abril-t3782927 )and then using OTA updates hard bricked their device
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If you have TWRP (or I assume any custom recovery) present when you try to ota, it can download just fine and then reboot to the update. I had TWRP and wound up in a situation where my phone would only boot to twrp no matter what I flashed or restored. I booted phone to fastboot, RSDlite'ed that 11-09-17 factory zip and all was well. In that particular case I did not fully install 7.x but immediately RSDlite'ed rafikowy's 8.0 signed stock and went on with my testing. Since then I always boot to TWRP rather than intalling it and do my thing. (thanks @jceballos )
When you used fastboot, did you see any 'security downgrade errors' when you flashed the bootloader, and is your bootloader version now C180, as you've flashed the Oreo OTA?
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Sorry - since it throws a million errors I never look at it if it works.
The particular build I am on at the moment - is BL: C1.82
This one started from that Nov '17 build and ota'ed all the way to 8.0 Apr.
I root and unroot as needed per rafikowy's method but using a boot to TWRP - never an install TWRP.
I'll put up a new guide ref ota and recovery and brick.
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If you have TWRP (or I assume any custom recovery) present when you try to ota, it can download just fine and then reboot to the update. I had TWRP and wound up in a situation where my phone would only boot to twrp no matter what I flashed or restored. I booted phone to fastboot, RSDlite'ed that 11-09-17 factory zip and all was well. In that particular case I did not fully install 7.x but immediately RSDlite'ed rafikowy's 8.0 signed stock and went on with my testing. Since then I always boot to TWRP rather than intalling it and do my thing. (thanks @jceballos )
Sorry - since it throws a million errors I never look at it if it works.
The particular build I am on at the moment - is BL: C1.82
This one started from that Nov '17 build and ota'ed all the way to 8.0 Apr.
I root and unroot as needed per rafikowy's method but using a boot to TWRP - never an install TWRP.
I'll put up a new guide ref ota and recovery and brick.
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1) If you have TWRP, then using an OTA will fail - as you've not got stock recovery (and likely other modifications, including possibly a system partition set to read-write status). As you noted, having TWRP seems to cause a bootloop when rebooting - I'm not sure if the OTA sets a boot flag to stay in recovery until the update is completed. For the G4/Plus, there's a possible solution by wiping the misc partition but I don't know if there's a similar partition for Z Play devices: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/help/troubleshooting-twrp-boot-loop-ota-t3714325
The only other solution I've seen is a clean flash of the stock ROM to get your device booting properly.
Booting to TWRP rather than flashing would mean your stock recovery is still present on your device. The only downside is if you need to make modifications, you'd need your computer to boot to TWRP.
2)BL C1.82 seems to be the bootloader provided by the Oreo April 2018 security patch update, so your device looks to be on the right bootloader. It's still curious that the Nov 2017 firmware worked whereas countless other 'factory' stock ROMs caused hard bricks when downgraded to and then OTA updates were installed.
As you mentioned, custom ROMs don't have bootloaders and thus don't care about your bootloader version usually (though I've seen some ROMs require a certain bootloader). However, stock ROMs and stock OTA updates do have bootloaders, which is why downgrading can be risky.
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1) If you have TWRP, then using an OTA will fail - as you've not got stock recovery (and likely other modifications, including possibly a system partition set to read-write status). As you noted, having TWRP seems to cause a bootloop when rebooting - I'm not sure if the OTA sets a boot flag to stay in recovery until the update is completed. For the G4/Plus, there's a possible solution by wiping the misc partition but I don't know if there's a similar partition for Z Play devices: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/help/troubleshooting-twrp-boot-loop-ota-t3714325
The only other solution I've seen is a clean flash of the stock ROM to get your device booting properly.
Booting to TWRP rather than flashing would mean your stock recovery is still present on your device. The only downside is if you need to make modifications, you'd need your computer to boot to TWRP.
2)BL C1.82 seems to be the bootloader provided by the Oreo April 2018 security patch update, so your device looks to be on the right bootloader. It's still curious that the Nov 2017 firmware worked whereas countless other 'factory' stock ROMs caused hard bricks when downgraded to and then OTA updates were installed.
As you mentioned, custom ROMs don't have bootloaders and thus don't care about your bootloader version usually (though I've seen some ROMs require a certain bootloader). However, stock ROMs and stock OTA updates do have bootloaders, which is why downgrading can be risky.
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Downgrading is a piece of cake if you don't use RSDlite - it throws an error and stops. Using the bat file it can happily throw all the errors it wants and all I care is at the end I have what I want.
It does indeed change the entire environment when you bat file the zip contents. You can bat file to get from 8 to 7 and then use RSDlite to flash a different 7 OR 8 zip file. There is no resulting difference in whether you RSDlite it or bat file it - the bat file simply comes from the .xml file that is within the zip. There is very little or no difference between that among addison factory/stock zips. Other zips are different (custom ROMs.)
Grab any factory/stock zip for addison and expand it and you will see modems, bootloaders, indeed absolutely everything you would find on that phone if you went to a store and bought it. SupahCookie simply added a couple lock command lines because it was intended for folks who somehow thought that if phone was locked they could take it back to the store and get their money back. Or some such. I found that ATT folk didn't care if you were on CM or whatever if you just needed to swap SIMs or whatever.
I DON'T want to lock the phone as it prevents me from modifying forever. Oh yeah that reminds me I was going to post the obligatory guide (again) about how to flash a white boot logo so you don't get that message - it's still there LOL but since the font is in white, you can't see it.
I have a Moto Z2 Play and used this to get out of a rather sticky situation.. My IEMI shows 0 now and I'm curious if there's a way to fix this? Also, You say you've done OTA updates? My phone is telling my I have some, is it safe to try?
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I have a Moto Z2 Play and used this to get out of a rather sticky situation.. My IEMI shows 0 now and I'm curious if there's a way to fix this? Also, You say you've done OTA updates? My phone is telling my I have some, is it safe to try?
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Thanks for feedback and great on success.
IMEI will show zero if using oreo, It will show again if using N. Remember that if you go from O to N you need to use the "Alternative to RSD" as RSD will simply throw an error and stop.
If you have TWRP and/or Magisk you must get rid of them before ota - if twrp present you will soft brick and have to do alternative again - flash a stock recovery. Simply uninstalling/flash magisk will probably not be enough - it will likely d/l but error part way through update. If you are sitting on rafikowy's stock oreo, and haven't modified it, you should be fine. I know Apr and June are out there. I flashed his stock 8.0 and took June fine. Z2 should be no different though of course I can't guarantee it
If you have success, let us know what you have done so others looking in will know. Thanks!
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Thanks for feedback and great on success.
IMEI will show zero if using oreo, It will show again if using N. Remember that if you go from O to N you need to use the "Alternative to RSD" as RSD will simply throw an error and stop.
If you have TWRP and/or Magisk you must get rid of them before ota - if twrp present you will soft brick and have to do alternative again - flash a stock recovery. Simply uninstalling/flash magisk will probably not be enough - it will likely d/l but error part way through update. If you are sitting on rafikowy's stock oreo, and haven't modified it, you should be fine. I know Apr and June are out there. I flashed his stock 8.0 and took June fine. Z2 should be no different though of course I can't guarantee it
If you have success, let us know what you have done so others looking in will know. Thanks!
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I actually flashed to this: ALBUS_C_7.1.1_NPS26.118-24_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip Which is a 7.1.1 variant and it is showing 0 when I check settings and when I dial *#06#. However upon connecting to the computer and running mfastboot getvar imei it returned a value. I only did the steps above which would mean I don't have TWRP or Magisk (when I fastboot and click recovery I get "no command")
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XT1710-01 Duel Sim Variant
I started your steps, only being able to access fastboot. The device would throw an error (I don't recall exactly but it ended up showing me them in the bootloader logs) whenever I tried to start it, or go to recovery. #DefinitelyThoughtItWasDead
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I actually flashed to this: ALBUS_C_7.1.1_NPS26.118-24_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip Which is a 7.1.1 variant and it is showing 0 when I check settings and when I dial *#06#. However upon connecting to the computer and running mfastboot getvar imei it returned a value. I only did the steps above which would mean I don't have TWRP or Magisk (when I fastboot and click recovery I get "no command")
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XT1710-01 Duel Sim Variant
I started your steps, only being able to access fastboot. The device would throw an error (I don't recall exactly but it ended up showing me them in the bootloader logs) whenever I tried to start it, or go to recovery. #DefinitelyThoughtItWasDead
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What rom was on phone when you got it and what have you done to it? Has it ever run 8.x?
original country of phone?
The bat file will always throw a lot of slot errors.
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/albus/official/RETUS/
or
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/albus/official/RETAIL/
might have some stock ROMs of interest...
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What rom was on phone when you got it and what have you done to it? Has it ever run 8.x?
original country of phone?
The bat file will always throw a lot of slot errors.
might have some stock ROMs of interest...
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It had 7.1.1 stock. I rooted it, and then flashed Resurrection Remix (which was yes 8.1 I believe) and the upgraded bootloader. I then found out my service wouldn't work with that.. so I attempted to flash back to stock which gave me a flurry of issues.. eventually getting to nothing but fastboot working. Flashed back to working with your guide to 7.1.1
If it helps in in fastboot it tells me BL: C0.CD
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It had 7.1.1 stock. I rooted it, and then flashed Resurrection Remix (which was yes 8.1 I believe) and the upgraded bootloader. I then found out my service wouldn't work with that.. so I attempted to flash back to stock which gave me a flurry of issues.. eventually getting to nothing but fastboot working. Flashed back to working with your guide to 7.1.1
If it helps in in fastboot it tells me BL: C0.CD
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Custom ROMs won't usually update the bootloader (even if they are newer) as stock ROMs typically only have the bootloader firmware.
You could look into flashing the stock Oreo albus 8.0 ROM https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-play/how-to/fastboot-rom-oreo-retail-via-fastboot-t3786153 or the 8.0 June 2018 firmware https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-play/how-to/fastboot-rom-albusretail8-0-0opss27-76-t3822195 but please check that firmware has been released for your device variant.
I don't know if updating your baseband to stock Oreo formally may fix your IMEI issue.
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It had 7.1.1 stock. I rooted it, and then flashed Resurrection Remix (which was yes 8.1 I believe) and the upgraded bootloader. I then found out my service wouldn't work with that.. so I attempted to flash back to stock which gave me a flurry of issues.. eventually getting to nothing but fastboot working. Flashed back to working with your guide to 7.1.1
If it helps in in fastboot it tells me BL: C0.CD
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"BL: C0.CD" even right after flashing that albus 7.1.1 using "alternative" above?
What happens if you flash one of the oreo roms from the links I gave you above?
Yeah, RR wouldn't change bootloaders... so you upgraded bootloaders independendently?- that could easily lead to a soft brick... -
I read RR on Z2 and it says nothing about bootloaders even though it says 8.1 based, so i wonder if it needs 7.x bootloaders? I did not read entire thread...
In a reverse, I would wonder if you put an 8 on there if you wouldn't see your IMEI. (On the Z if you flash 8 You won't see the IMEI until you return to 7.)(wondering if z2 is reversed)
KrisM22 said:
"BL: C0.CD" even right after flashing that albus 7.1.1 using "alternative" above?
What happens if you flash one of the oreo roms from the links I gave you above?
Yeah, RR wouldn't change bootloaders... so you upgraded bootloaders independendently?- that could easily lead to a soft brick... -
I read RR on Z2 and it says nothing about bootloaders even though it says 8.1 based, so i wonder if it needs 7.x bootloaders? I did not read entire thread...
In a reverse, I would wonder if you put an 8 on there if you wouldn't see your IMEI. (On the Z if you flash 8 You won't see the IMEI until you return to 7.)(wondering if z2 is reversed)
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Yes, right after flashing that is the BL that fastboot is showing me. I don't recall updating the bootloader so to speak, however RR did require an updated variant of twrp which I flashed 3.2.2 I believe to get (unsure if that would have changed the bootloader or not). I also tried flashing a stock Oreo (which you've stated stock Roms usually only have the bootloaders so maybe somewhere during this process I updated it?). I wish I had all the notes for what I did to give more precise information, but I'm in a position where I really need my phone so I kinda just panicked and started flashing things when my service wouldn't work.
I'm highly considering trying to run an OTA (though very afraid of bricking). - On a side note though, it wouldn't even tell me I had OTA's until I did the steps in the original post here (doing the different 7.1.1. and 8.0 flashes, it wouldn't ever tell me I had updates, and now it does).
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Looks like I'm able to enter stock recovery, which makes me believe everything is stock at the moment.
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Yes, right after flashing that is the BL that fastboot is showing me. I don't recall updating the bootloader so to speak, however RR did require an updated variant of twrp which I flashed 3.2.2 I believe to get (unsure if that would have changed the bootloader or not). I also tried flashing a stock Oreo (which you've stated stock Roms usually only have the bootloaders so maybe somewhere during this process I updated it?). I wish I had all the notes for what I did to give more precise information, but I'm in a position where I really need my phone so I kinda just panicked and started flashing things when my service wouldn't work.
I'm highly considering trying to run an OTA (though very afraid of bricking). - On a side note though, it wouldn't even tell me I had OTA's until I did the steps in the original post here (doing the different 7.1.1. and 8.0 flashes, it wouldn't ever tell me I had updates, and now it does).
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Looks like I'm able to enter stock recovery, which makes me believe everything is stock at the moment.
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If you flashed a stock O that would have changed bl to O, but doing the above with the stock 7.1.1 would have changed them back to N. No matter (other than academic) that you don't remember the path - flashing a stock anything reverts it to that point in time. However, IMEI may have been moved - don't know. It will likely show on EITHER 7.x or 8.x stock - just don't know which.
If you flash a stock 8.x from those links I gave you above, it should offer you ota, ASSUMING there are any at this point in time(Z has 2). Adding Magisk at any point seems to hose you for receiving any more ota's - don't understand why, even with magisk uninstall, so that would mean going back to the latest stock and losing what you have (which is why I try to take a TBPro and copy that backup to PC (because re-flashing 8.x stock will likely reset internal storage.).
yes, if you enter stock recovery, you are likely at stock, though you could reflash the latest 7 or 8 stock to be sure, depending on which you want to use as base. Since 8 is having security fixes released, I choose 8 and will likely have no more interest (no time!) in 7.
So, ran the OTA and it was fine running the update and staying on N. I also downloaded the OTA for Oreo, when trying to update the recovery error'd out. It looked like the error said "Error in modem unexpected results" or something similar.
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So, ran the OTA and it was fine running the update and staying on N. I also downloaded the OTA for Oreo, when trying to update the recovery error'd out. It looked like the error said "Error in modem unexpected results" or something similar.
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did it offer to let you d/l it again? you could try that.
However, there exist O stock zips in those links I gave you so you could just flash the latest...
I've just captured the Official OPP28.85-16 OTA for retail cedric and I'm posting it here. I'm on retbr channel but this will work on any retail device. If you're on another updated channel, I don't know what would happen if you installed this.
Notice that to install this YOU MUST be on NPPS25.137-93-2-5 to install these, since OTA's are not full firmwares like fastboot files, but instead they're patchings tailored to be applied upon a specific firmare - NPPS25.137-93-2-5 in this case.
Another particular detail is that the OTA file (gotten directly from my credric) lists the Blur Version as Blur_Version.25.361.10.cedric.retail.en.US, but curiously, the fastboot version for the same firmware ( which you can download here) lists it as Blur_Version.28.41.15.cedric.retail.en.US
Someone also reported in another thread that they just sideloaded this upon the Second Soak test. I wouldn't doubt it since this is what should happen to regular soak testers, but if you do it, DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK
I also won't post instructions on how to install this since they're already available here
Download
Gdrive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/149hrGFpuWUgAvJr02McYNwJVaqSvllYO/view?usp=sharing
That's it.
changelog?
Has anyone already tried it?
Since this is a (Delta) OTA Update that expects NPPS25.137-93-2-5 (Blur_Version.25.361.10) it should be correctly named "block_delta-ota-Blur_Version.25.361.10-28.41.15.cedric.retail.en.US" in my view.
Someone also reported in another thread that they just sideloaded this upon the Second Soak test.
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I'm on the 2nd soak test update OPP28.85-13.
Just tried to flash the update from SD card and ADB sideload.
Update failed due to wrong version.
E3002: Package expects build thumbprint of 8.1.0/OPP28.85-16/0400:user/release-keys or 7.0/NPPS25.137-93-2-5/10:user/release-keys; this device has 8.1.0/OPP28.85-13/789a:user/release-keys.
JoeDoe0 said:
Since this is a (Delta) OTA Update that expects NPPS25.137-93-2-5 (Blur_Version.25.361.10) it should be correctly named "block_delta-ota-Blur_Version.25.361.10-28.41.15.cedric.retail.en.US" in my view.
I'm on the 2nd soak test update OPP28.85-13.
Just tried to flash the update from SD card and ADB sideload.
Update failed due to wrong version.
E3002: Package expects build thumbprint of 8.1.0/OPP28.85-16/0400:user/release-keys or 7.0/NPPS25.137-93-2-5/10:user/release-keys; this device has 8.1.0/OPP28.85-13/789a:user/release-keys.
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seems like it can be updated. from. soak test then, but I never heard nor did I find anything about OPP25. 85-16 build. maybe there was a third soak test and we don't know about it
Works perfect
Hi,
i used the above Image in Germany and i am now on Oreo 8.1
Everything works perfect. First i had a little bit trouble due to an old Version of ADB Tools, but after Update ADB to current Version the Update to Oreo took something around 30min.
Build 28.85-16
Oreo 8.1
Software Channel reteu
Patch Level 01.08.2018
bori321 said:
Hi,
i used the above Image in Germany and i am now on Oreo 8.1
Everything works perfect. First i had a little bit trouble due to an old Version of ADB Tools, but after Update ADB to current Version the Update to Oreo took something around 30min.
Build 28.85-16
Oreo 8.1
Software Channel reteu
Patch Level 01.08.2018
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On which version you were before update?
Firmware
Hi,
before update to Oreo i flashed NPPS25.137-93-2-5 Firmware and after that the Image from this thread.
Worked perfect.
Alex
I tried to post a Screenshot but it was not possible because i am a new member...
Update failed due to wrong version.
E3002: Package expects build thumbprint of 8.1.0/OPP28.85-16/0400:user/release-keys or 7.0/NPPS25.137-93-2-5/10:user/release-keys; this device has 8.1.0/OPP28.85-13/789a:user/release-keys.
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freeZbies said:
seems like it can be updated. from. soak test then, but I never heard nor did I find anything about OPP25. 85-16 build. maybe there was a third soak test and we don't know about it
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Update fails from OPP28.85-13 since it expects either OPP28.85-16 which is the latest Oreo build (that I want to update to) or the latest Nougat NPPS25.137-93-2-5.
There is no OPP25. 85-16 build! I think you misread the error message.
BTW I updated from OPP28.85-13 to -16 using the full fastboot version and it worked out perfectly.
JoeDoe0 said:
Update fails from OPP28.85-13 since it expects either OPP28.85-16 which is the latest Oreo build (that I want to update to) or the latest Nougat NPPS25.137-93-2-5.
There is no OPP25. 85-16 build! I think you misread the error message.
BTW I updated from OPP28.85-13 to -16 using the full fastboot version and it worked out perfectly.
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yeah, I actually misread it, now I see it.
Anyways, flashing it from fastboot doesn't prove anything. but seems like Cedric can be upgraded from the soak test to final version using this ota. Idk because I used fastboot myself too, since I had already modified my system partition.
AsusZenFone3Deluxe said:
changelog?
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seriously?
stop joking, Motorola doesn't release changelogs.
but I'll try:
updated from nougat to oreo?
duhhh
how is speaker quality in this build ?
because there is some issues in previous oreo builds
Speaker
Hi,
i would say that for my ears the speaker sounds better than it was with Nougat.
After a few days of testing everything works really good and i have not found anything not working or any problems.
Alex
bori321 said:
Hi,
before update to Oreo i flashed NPPS25.137-93-2-5 Firmware and after that the Image from this thread.
Worked perfect.
Alex
I tried to post a Screenshot but it was not possible because i am a new member...
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how do you get back to NPPS25.137-93-2-5
I followed the steps from this Thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/development/stock-upgrade-to-official-stock-oreo-8-t3823598
- Unlocked bootloader (don't know of this is necessary)
- back to NPPS25.137-93-2-5 via the commands from the thread i linked (without the lines:
fastboot flash modem NON-HLOS.bin
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
fastboot flash fsg fsg.mbn
)
- via ADB sideload with the Oreo download from this thread to Oreo.
Alex
ahmedAZ said:
how is speaker quality in this build ?
because there is some issues in previous oreo builds
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In my experience the quality is better than on previous oreo builds.
ahmedAZ said:
how do you get back to NPPS25.137-93-2-5
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if you have an unlocked bootloader download NPPS25.137-93-2-5 Flashable Zip here and flash it with twrp
bori321 said:
I followed the steps from this Thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5/development/stock-upgrade-to-official-stock-oreo-8-t3823598
- Unlocked bootloader (don't know of this is necessary)
Alex
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to flash official Motorola files there's no need to unlock the bootloader.
you've just unnecessarily voided your warranty
@freeZbies
Hey is that twrp stock rom (137-93-2-5) the only thing we need to flash before going for the ota ? Cause I've been told that we needed to be on a completely unmodified system partition in order to receive the ota. In that case just flashing twrp stock wouldn't be sufficient right?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...o-official-stock-oreo-8-t3823598/post77713117
Chekm8Qc said:
@freeZbies
Hey is that twrp stock rom (137-93-2-5) the only thing we need to flash before going for the ota ? Cause I've been told that we needed to be on a completely unmodified system partition in order to receive the ota. In that case just flashing twrp stock wouldn't be sufficient right?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...o-official-stock-oreo-8-t3823598/post77713117
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I dont know if the twrp version would be valid. To apply an OTA, your system must matchbit by bit, so the most guaranteed way is to flash that firmware via fastboot, but you could try flashing the twrp version, and in case it works, you could post the results here.
just dont forget that if the ota fails youll soft brick ur phonr and will only be able to recover it via fastboot
freeZbies said:
I dont know if the twrp version would be valid. To apply an OTA, your system must match stick bit by bit, so the most guaranteed way is to flash that firmware via fastboot, but. you could try flashing the twrp version, and in case it. woeks you could post the results here.
just dont forget that if the ota fails youll soft brick ur phonr and will only be able to recover it via fastboot
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Thanks I'll keep that in mind
Being soft bricked,, wouldn't I be able to use twrp still? Like to flash a valid rom or one of my backups?
Anyways I can't really try it that way since the update hasn't come to me yet I'm on software channel Retca.
Edit : right I forgot that I could just use the official ota available here if I would like to test it.
Chekm8Qc said:
Thanks I'll keep that in mind
Being soft bricked,, wouldn't I be able to use twrp still? Like to flash a valid rom or one of my backups?
Anyways I can't really try it that way since the update hasn't come to me yet I'm on software channel Retca.
Edit : right I forgot that I could just use the official ota available here if I would like to test it.
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being soft bricked doesnt necessarily mean you can recover it through twrp. OTA's are different of twrp flashables in that it modifies things beyond system partition. I've seen reports from people with other motorola devices who applied an OTA while having a modified system partition, and even though they were able to boot to twrp, flashing a custom Rom or restore a backup wouldn't make the phone boot. Their phones weren't hard bricked, but still they had to fastboot to recover their phones. Anyways, why don't you flash the Twrp flashable if, it's already available (considering you have an unlocked bootloader).
I'm case you have a locked bootloader you may fastboot without executing "fastboot erase userdata" in case you want to try. I did it without losing my data (although I was already in Opp 28.85-16)
but after all I really advice you to flash the twrp zip if u can