Is the Bluetooth media volume for the G7 quieter than other phones? - Moto G7 Questions & Answers

I actually have the G7 Power but the forum for that device is not very active right now so I thought I would ask here first.
Since getting my G7 Power I noticed that music I listen to through the BT FM transmitter I have in my car comes through noticeably quieter than it did with my previous phones (Note 4 and OnePlus 5). I am trying to see if a volume amplifier app out there actually works or not but I can't seem to get the desired results. Does anybody here have any similar experiences or insight?
Thanks.

Disable BT Absolute Volume in Developer Settings and turn unit volume to maximum.
Touch Build Number few times in About Phone to enable Developer Settings

mingkee said:
Disable BT Absolute Volume in Developer Settings and turn unit volume to maximum.
Touch Build Number few times in About Phone to enable Developer Settings
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I was able to Disable BT Absolute Volume but I don't see a 'unit volume' setting anywhere unless you're just talking about turning up the volume on my phone. It still sounds relatively quiet on my FM transmitter.

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[REQUEST $$$] Change media volume while docked and connected to car stereo via BT

$60 goes to the person who finds a way to get this working!
This is a random issue that I've been having that's driving me nuts. I have the N1 car dock along with a Clarion CZ500 BT car stereo and everything is working fine... BUT I cannot change the media volume over BT while docked.
Why do I need to? Because my call volume is terribly low and I'm constantly changing volume levels on my car stereo and occasionally blowing out my ear drums when I forget to lower it as the call is ending and the music starts up again automatically.
If I had access to change the media volume, I could set the BT media volume at a comfortable level (with Tasker's help obviously ) when the phone is docked and not have to ever adjust my volume!
I'm wondering if this is actually a PowerAMP issue, but I can't seem to test the issue properly because I can't find a music player with a volume control slider.
BTW, I know that this is a docking issue because when I'm simply connected over BT without being docked the media volume changes just fine.
I'm running CM7 nightlies for the record.
Thanks!
PowerAmp seems to have some minor issues with bluetooth. Or it might be the combo of that and CM7 as it does odd things at times for me.
Does your headset try to tell the phone how to change volume, or are you doing it from the volume control on the side of the dock? I find that the built-in music app lets me change the volume just fine from the buttons but that poweramp seems to be a bit temperamental about it. (Although there was an update today that may have fixed it, I haven't checked yet).
My car stereo doesn't communicate the volume change to my device, it just adjusts the stereo volume.
I'm not controlling the volume from the physical buttons because the only ones accessible are those on the dock and those aren't connected when you're not connected to the dock via BT. I'm controlling the volume using the volume slider on PowerAMP.
As I change the volume using the PowerAMP slider, I see the display for "Media volume playing over Bluetooth" and the volume bar changes but it doesn't affect the volume. The only time the sound gets affected is when I get to 0 in which case it mutes.
No one has any other ideas???
Mine just works with my Sony XAV-70bt. I set the volumes once, and it just keeps them working. So my suggestion, sell Clarion, buy Sony. Can i have my $25?
But seriously, a lot of these head units have a separate builtin volume for the handset profile vs an a2dp. Mine has a phone call volume, then a separate BT Audio volume. You might run through your settings, find a different media player, or try another rom/kernel. Are you connected via physical 3.5mm cable from the Car dock to your Clarion, or using a bluetooth connection to it?
BT. There are no volume settings that I can find for the specific profiles.
rickytenzer said:
BT. There are no volume settings that I can find for the specific profiles.
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So you want to be able to control phone volume from the head unit? I don't believe this is possible at this point. I suppose someone could build an interface using the AVRCP profile that would control volume. In theory it's possible.
bimmerd00d said:
So you want to be able to control phone volume from the head unit? I don't believe this is possible at this point. I suppose someone could build an interface using the AVRCP profile that would control volume. In theory it's possible.
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I just want to be able to modify the media volume when I'm docked and connected via BT to the stereo. It seems as if the OS blocks a volume change when docked and connected to an external BT and I simply want to override that "feature".
As I stated above, if I'm NOT docked but still connected to the stereo via BT, the volume can be changed.
I battled the same issue for a couple of months. Solution: Tasker on the android market.
I have it set that when I dock my phone the media and in-call volume both max out. As soon as I un-dock it everything returns to the previous levels.
It's even cheaper than your $25 bounty
edit: just saw your tasker comment...so do you have it installed? or is it still not enough workaround for you? I have my N1 connecting to the bluetooth on the dock for calls, but i also run a 3.5 line-out into the aux port on my radio for music
Ya it's installed. But I'm running through BT. That's where the problem originates.
Maybe try contacting the PowerAmp dev or leaving a message on the forum on his site?
My BT head unit is in the mail so if you haven't got a solution by the weekend I'll be wanting to try the same combination so I'll check it out then.
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Maybe try contacting the PowerAmp dev or leaving a message on the forum on his site?
My BT head unit is in the mail so if you haven't got a solution by the weekend I'll be wanting to try the same combination so I'll check it out then.
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I don't think it's a PowerAMP issue. I mean, I get the volume dialog and it changes as I "turn the knob".
Does anyone know of another music player that has a volume slider?
So NO ONE knows of a music player with a volume slider other than PowerAMP? I would like to see if PowerAMP is the culprit.
Obligatory bump.
Alright, I'll pay $40. Someone please!
Dropping too low!
Geez, patience dude. It's not that critical.
To me it is. And as soon as it's off the first page it's lost for good.
It's just frustrating that there are so many good devs here and no one wants to lend a serious hand.
Best of luck to you. I discovered that the volume is automatically reset when the phone is in the dock, regardless of what you set it to manually (even if you change it while it is in the dock, it immediately changes itself back). What you might need to be looking for is a modification of either the car home app, or of whatever protocols are responsible for the volume change.
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Best of luck to you. I discovered that the volume is automatically reset when the phone is in the dock, regardless of what you set it to manually (even if you change it while it is in the dock, it immediately changes itself back). What you might need to be looking for is a modification of either the car home app, or of whatever protocols are responsible for the volume change.
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That's what I'm willing to pay for.

Low Bluetooth volume through speakers?

Is anyone else having problems with Bluetooth volume levels through your car speakers or any other Bluetooth speaker for that matter? My volume is verrrryy low through through the speakers at the "safety" level that u hit when trying to jack it up on the phone. I have to put my car speakers up to like 30. I didn't have to do with with Note 4. Low 20s was fine. The only way to make it louder without having to raise the car volume to 30 is to jack up the volume on the phone itself past the safety level. Then it gets louder i can lower the car volume a bit. Once again, didn't have to do this with Note 4. Its doing this with car, Powers Beats, and UE Boom.
Yeah I noticed the same on my bluetooth devices, Very quiet compared to other phones.
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Yeah I noticed the same on my bluetooth devices, Very quiet compared to other phones.
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It's weird. With the hands free in the car i think the volume is fine. I even think its sort of ok on the powerbeats 2. Playin music through the car or UE Boom though is really really low.
Having only received the phone Friday I've not had the chance to do much testing. But on the couple of times I took it in the car it was noticeably low playing music. Hopefully a software fix will correct.
I did a quick Google search and I've seen some people complaining about the Bluetooth dropping connections. I had it do once or twice. I've also had it not want to always stayed connected to my JAWBONE UP3 fitness tracker. I was watching it connect and disconnect nonstop a few times then eventually it stayed connected. Hopefully it's just a software issue that Samsung will fix and Verizon will release sooner than a year later. Some people have said the volume issue is a Marshamallow occurence but I don't know. ?
Ive not had any Bluetooth connectivity problems. Just the low volume which is not a major problem.
Bluetooth volume is pretty much the same as my LG G3, which I thought was low, so i'm used to it.
Just chiming in, coming from HTC M7 I definitely can tell the difference with low volume on S7E. I really had to crank up my car stereo volume when the phone is connected.
I had this problem both on the S7 edge and my previous Note 5. I just unpaired and repaired (three times with the edge) and finally the volume went back to the previous volume of my previous devices - weird, can't explain why but once the level settles it stays the same every time I connect. (I always set volume to full on the phone and then use the car stereo to control thereafter)
haven't had any disconnections myself, whether it's the smartwatch, car or wireless bluetooth speakers, however, when the phone's connected to the BT speakers, I did notice that even at full volume, it is very low compared to my former S6 edge.
I use Samsung Level U Pro Bluetooth Headset as well as JBL Bluetooth Speaker.
No Issues at all even streaming via Spotify and TuneIn Pro.
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Same here. But it seems to differ every time I reconnect a Bluetooth device. Little annoying since I have to readjust my headphones every time...
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I can connect an iPhone to my car's bluetooth and it's extremely loud (35/40 and I can't handle the volume anymore) and if I connect my S7 I can hit 40/40 and talk casually over the music that's playing. My Note 5 did this, as well as my old Galaxy S6. Not sure why Samsung's bluetooth volume is so low/bad compared to iPhone. Not to mention there is almost no bass in the audio that's transferred.
Let's see if we can solve this once and for all. I've been experimenting and I am having some results. But does require an equalizer app. I am using Equalizer FX so I don't know how these steps work on other ones.
Open the app, click the three dots in the upper right > Settings > check "Global audio output mix" it's description reads, "Warning! It does not work for new devices. We do not recommend to use this feature. However this is the only solution for some players." (I am using YT Music)
After you turn that setting on, go back and click the middle tab "Effects" and you'll need to turn on "Loudness Enhancer" then use the slider to adjust it to your personal taste.
You don't even need to have the main page equalizer turned on. Just the main toggle needs to be on, the one right next to the three dots.
This part is just a little extra for those who don't understand the issue. SoundAlive maintains the media volume separately from all other device sounds. In the past we just used Package Disabler, turned it off, boom no more limited bluetooth music volume. Now it seems, it cannot be disabled with going rooted. *Flips table* You can easily demonstrate the issue by making sure you have setting on for the device volume synced with bluetooth volume. Connect to a bluetooth speaker, play a song, then plug and unplug an aux cable into the phone, you'll notice probably a 30% volume difference.

Solved: Bluetooth volume defaults to maximum on each new connection

I have found that each time that I connect my bluetooth audio devices to the phone the volume resets to the loudest setting. The change seems to happen as soon as I start audio the first time after connecting. When I adjust the volume I can see momentarily that it was on a lower setting and then it jumps all the way up to maximum. This has happened with three different brands of headsets. It does not happen with wired earbuds. An app called "Bluetooth Volume Control" will automatically adjust the volume based on the bluetooth device connected. This work reasonably well but not 100% so far. Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.
Edit: I found a solution for this. In the developer options under the "Networking" heading, there is an option to "Disable absolute volume." Turning this option on allows the volume to stay where I put it.
Well, I love having mine maxed out every time. I had the Nexus6p which did something much more annoying. It would always set the Bluetooth volume to the middle and then I would have to turn it all the way up every time. I set up a Tasker option, but like your app, it didn't work 100% of the time either.
ArkAngel06 said:
Well, I love having mine maxed out every time. I had the Nexus6p which did something much more annoying. It would always set the Bluetooth volume to the middle and then I would have to turn it all the way up every time. I set up a Tasker option, but like your app, it didn't work 100% of the time either.
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In the past it would have been less of an issue but the combination of the new phone and my newest bluetooth set means that half way is ear damaging. My older sets were less so but are still uncomfortably loud.
My god, I hope no one else complains about this. I can't stand devices that default to a safe volume limit. FYI, when connected via BT, the phone volume is software based and what ever device you are using is hardware based. It is ALWAYS recommended to max out the software volume and then use the hardware (actual device) volume to adjust to your preference. On other phones I would always have to readjust both volumes, not fun. OnePlus does it right.
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My god, I hope no one else complains about this. I can't stand devices that default to a safe volume limit. FYI, when connected via BT, the phone volume is software based and what ever device you are using is hardware based. It is ALWAYS recommended to max out the software volume and then use the hardware (actual device) volume to adjust to your preference. On other phones I would always have to readjust both volumes, not fun. OnePlus does it right.
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Not all bluetooth earbuds have volume controls. It would be nice to just have the volume stay where I put it. That would be the "right" way. you could leave it high I could leave it lower.
So I found this. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phascinate.precisevolume&hl=en
It allows granular control over volume, presets for different devices, boosting or reducing the overall volume... etc.
For example, in my car maximum volume is preferred because I would rather use the volume control on the dash, however my wireless earbuds have no volume control and this newest pair have a truly ridiculously loud maximum volume, and I want them to default to about 50 percent. This app lets me set up separate presets for each.
It also lets you adjust the maximum volume and the rate of change when you use the volume controls. This was useful also.
free to use with ads but it is $2.99 to make it useful though.
I think that is problem solved but I wish that I didn't need an app to prevent an automatic volume change. It isn't about loud or soft. It is the fact that I put it where I want it and the phone changes it. In my case these headphones are capable of such loud volumes that starting soft would be preferable.
Here are the headphones by the way. A bit expensive but very worth it.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/jam-tra...-ear-headphones-black/5796033.p?skuId=5796033
as a point of comparison I have also had these
https://www.amazon.com/SoundPEATS-B...TF8&qid=1501000430&sr=1-7&keywords=soundpeats
and these
https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-HBS-760-Bluetooth-Wireless/dp/B00WE1QYX0/ref=dp_ob_title_wld
The Jams are way better than both in every respect.
Finally found a real solution. In the developer options, under the "Networking" section, there is an option to "Disable absolute volume." turning this option on allows the volume to stay where I put it.
kutluch said:
Finally found a real solution. In the developer options, under the "Networking" section, there is an option to "Disable absolute volume." turning this option on allows the volume to stay where I put it.
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Thank you,I have been searching for a solution months!
I was getting affraid to use my headphones... :crying:
kutluch said:
Finally found a real solution. In the developer options, under the "Networking" section, there is an option to "Disable absolute volume." turning this option on allows the volume to stay where I put it.
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Thanks for the solution! I've been having the opposite problem, i. e. every time I connected my Bluetooth earplugs the volume was always at the minimum. Now it's working fine.
kutluch said:
Finally found a real solution. In the developer options, under the "Networking" section, there is an option to "Disable absolute volume." turning this option on allows the volume to stay where I put it.
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I noticed this and had it on but I turned it off, then I noticed that the volume was not staying like it did when I used other bluetooth earbuds. After reading your post, I then reenabled the option and works nicely. I got the IdeaUSA v203 headphones today, and I was trying to keep the volume about the same via bluetooth and aux cable, in-case I ran out of battery and need to plug in aux to use headphones. This works perfectly for me. I use Poweramp and nicely done for this. It says up to 40 hours playback but I think with the way I got it might give me a few hours less playback but I am willing to sacrifice for volume. One reason I love Oreo or higher OS now. My S7 Edge is nice with this.:good:
THANKS! Worked for me!
I have 'disable absolute volume' ON and i still have this problem. Its a very big problem, because having music defaulted to large scares the me so much and also is causing damage to my ears.
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I have 'disable absolute volume' ON and i still have this problem. Its a very big problem, because having music defaulted to large scares the me so much and also is causing damage to my ears.
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Same here. Toggling that did nothing at all.
My issue was that if I took a phone call while any media was playing, when I hung up on the call the media volume would jump to max and playback would resume which DESTROYED my ears.
My solution was to uninstall the Samsung Sound Assistant app and then rebooting my S9. (Because the behavior persisted until rebooted after the uninstall.) That fixed the issue entirely. I miss the functionality of Sound Assistant so I might try reinstalling to see if it works itself out but for now having the problem fixed is very nice.

Bluetooth Audio Volume (per device setting)

I would have sworn there's a setting where you can match the volume to a specific Bluetooth device?
I would have sworn the newest version of Android allowed you to have different media volumes set for different bluetooth pairings. For me, I have a bluetooth headset and then two vehicles that pair to the phone. I prefer the cars to be set to max volume and obviously the headset to not be set to full volume. Is there a way to get the phone to remember the volume level for each device? It seems to just go to whatever I had it set to last regardless of device (so I go into the car with volume set low and have had the headset pair at maximum volume).
Is it the setting under (settings>>sound>>bluetooth absolute volume)??? If that's it should it be toggled on or off. I have it set to toggle ON and the bluetooth audio volume doesn't seem to sync.
Headset is the OnePlus Bullets (from 6 months ago).
Thanks, I was about to post this too. Same issue I have, thought Android P fixed this where it would remember the last set bluwtooth vol. Don't like to install another app just to fix this.
I have the same question.
This was announced as a Pie feature (Bluetooth volume memory), so wondering why oneplus is hiding this functionality.
For me bluetooth does not even remember the volume if I keep using the same pair of headphones... Every time I reconnect my headphones the volume is maxed out again. This is really annoying...
Similarly, I like to have Bluetooth on maximum volume in my car, but not on my headphones. Even my old OnePlus One had per-device Bluetooth volume memory. The 6T has taken a retrograde step that destroys my ears when I use my headphones!
I had to use another app to work around this. Bluetooth app which rememebrs each device volume settings.
Was a fix ever found for this?
I have a BT speaker, and headphones. The headphones require a higher volume setting for the same sound level.
Anyway to set a BT volume limit per device to make them close together? I don't want to turn off absolute volume control completely. While it solves this issue, it adds other complications.
(Yes, I used Google, and yes, I know i'm bumping an old thread)

BT volume no longer linked? BT devices can't control system volume anymore

So for as long as I can remember, my launch day OP5 has responded to BT volume changes (e.g. I turn the volume up or down from the BT device, speaker, or headphones, and the volume level on the phone is adjusted). Recently, I've noticed that this is no longer the case. I have tried both enabling and disabling that Developer Options > Disable absolute volume, but haven't been able to get back to the state I was in before.
I've tested with my Jabra Elite Sport headphones, and my Tribit XSound Go... But neither of them will make the phone volume level change...

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