Hello, recently I observed that when I put(lay) my XA2 on my laptop on specific position - near(next) to the touchpad my XA2 display turns immediately off - and when I grab it out then immediately turns on - exactly same way like with original sony flip cover... So it bring me idea that original flip cover uses some specific magnetic(electric so NFC?) array (or field) ion some specific condition... like some magnet on both sides of original flip cover and when closed magnetic field changes, ...Im supposing that, becose my laptop does not have any NFC and that there must be some electric or magnetic field created by my laptop to make my XA2 thinks there in a original flip cover and thats why switching on/off display of XA2... Maybe its magnetic maybe electric field that simulates NFC??? So maybe it will help someone to observe more than me (cos im not developer... ) and make the cusom flip cover works same way as originals...
JeanDean said:
Hello, recently I observed that when I put(lay) my XA2 on my laptop on specific position - near(next) to the touchpad my XA2 display turns immediately off - and when I grab it out then immediately turns on - exactly same way like with original sony flip cover... So it bring me idea that original flip cover uses some specific magnetic(electric so NFC?) array (or field) ion some specific condition... like some magnet on both sides of original flip cover and when closed magnetic field changes, ...Im supposing that, becose my laptop does not have any NFC and that there must be some electric or magnetic field created by my laptop to make my XA2 thinks there in a original flip cover and thats why switching on/off display of XA2... Maybe its magnetic maybe electric field that simulates NFC??? So maybe it will help someone to observe more than me (cos im not developer... ) and make the cusom flip cover works same way as originals...
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Hello,
I have the official Sony smart cover. There is a little magnet at the bottom right of the cover. This magnet activate sleep and wake up function. Hard to find such a little magnet especially one that doesn't disturb the compass sensor.
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tititoto said:
Hello,
I have the official Sony smart cover. There is a little magnet at the bottom right of the cover. This magnet activate sleep and wake up function. Hard to find such a little magnet especially one that doesn't disturb the compass sensor.
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Sorry it's bottom left of the device.
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Hey all,
My Tilt is on the way from AT&T, and I'm looking at cases. The cases that seem to interest me all use magnetic studs. Some have said the magnetic studs can keep the Tilt turned on.
The 2 I like the most are the following:
PDair Book Type
ebay "Premium" Kaiser Case
Anyone had any experience with these or other similar cases with magnetic studs in a similar spot causing problems?
Thanks!
Dont want to hijack your thread but since your on the topic of that case anyone try "PDair Book Type"? Is it still possible to press the keys with the plastic over it?... It doesn't look like it, i seems like you would be pressing more than one button at a time with that plastic over the keyboard.
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Dont want to hijack your thread but since your on the topic of that case anyone try "PDair Book Type"? Is it still possible to press the keys with the plastic over it?... It doesn't look like it, i seems like you would be pressing more than one button at a time with that plastic over the keyboard.
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I think you'll be able to press the keys, but it wont be as good as without the case. As you said, you'll prolly press several buttons at onces and wont get the same feel when typing.
I've used a Prestige case with magnetic closure for a year or more with my AT&T 8525. Never noticed a problem. I'm now using the case with my Tilt, but that's only been a few days. Haven't noticed anything yet, however.
I'm using the PDAir flip case -- the magnetic stud doesn't affect anything. The plastic keyboard cover isn't too bad -- I haven't noticed any problems with multiple keypresses, but it does affect the feel of the keyboard.
I'm looking forward to the Piel Frama case, which should be coming out in the next few weeks. They had a really good case for my old Wizard that used a narrow leather strap & snap to hold the device in the case; you'd unsnap the strap to access the keyboard.
Depends on the magnet strength and location, there have been a few reports of the magnet turning on the phone. The kaiser keyboard uses a magnetic sensor to turn on the phone when the keyboard opens. I'm using a hip holster with mag and not seeing any issue.
I'd say should anyone have the issue, start a thread with brand/model listed for others to avoid.
I have the Seidio case I originally bought for my 8525.
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=394
The two magnets would always "trick" the screen into thinking the keyboard was open and switch it to landscape mode. I always had to wait a few seconds for the screen to switch back when I took it out of the case.
This does NOT happen with the Tilt. The screen stays in portrait mode. I have always liked the quality of the case and the magnets in the flap make it easy to open and shut. So now it is my perfect solution.
no issues here
YodaJM said:
Hey all,
My Tilt is on the way from AT&T, and I'm looking at cases. The cases that seem to interest me all use magnetic studs. Some have said the magnetic studs can keep the Tilt turned on.
The 2 I like the most are the following:
PDair Book Type
ebay "Premium" Kaiser Case
Anyone had any experience with these or other similar cases with magnetic studs in a similar spot causing problems?
Thanks!
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I have been using a case with two magnetic studs on the flip closure for months now and have had zero issues. Bought mine at Fred Meyers and recomend anyone in need of a good black leather horizontal pouch case to check it out. was 15 dollars and is of the same quality and fit as 40 dollar cases you may see online.
cheers
I've been using a Motorola Case designed for the Q9 with my Tilt and it's worked out quite well. It also has a single magnetic stud closure and I have noticed no issues at all.
I bought the PDair Book Type case same week the Tilt first came out here in the U.S. I have had no problems at all. Non of that shutting off by itself thingy people complain about.
Magnetic cases
Some cases cause screen to wake up, some don't. To eliminate the problem just turn off Slide Wake option in registry. When slide wake is enabled opening the keyboard (or getting too close to a magnet) will wake the screen. Turn this option off and you can use magnetic clasps at will.
Hey there,
I got one of those "smart" cases which send my Nexus 10 to sleep and wake it up once i close/open the front cover.
However i wondered how this really works, is there a sensor within the Nexus 10?
Also , i lately put my Nexus 10 the wrong way round(with the screen still facing me but the lower bottom, where the pogo connector is being up and the camera being down) in the case and closed the front. As expected the Screen didnt shut nor did it wake up when i opened it.
So i guess there is no sensor on that side of the tablet?Is it possible then to harm the hardware inside by the magnet withing the case. I mean when i put it in the wrong way round.
Thanks in advance for your help!
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when i put it in the wrong way round.
Thanks in advance for your help!
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LOL. There is no wrong way! OK. There is. Don't drop it on a hard surface.
There are magnets in your case that trigger the wake up/down of your N10.
the magnetic sensor is right about the left side of the ambient light sensor... try running a fridge magnet there and see the screen go off and on when the magnet is away...
Hi! I am trying to find premium s-view case since the original does not stay closed but i wonder how hall sensor works and will it work with other than Samsung original cases. I am thinking about this case http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tridea-Samsung-Galaxy-S4-100-Italian-Standing-View-Cover-S-View-Case-BLUE-/221221049258?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhonesCasesPouches&hash=item3381cd53aa ! What do you think and can you recommend other high quality s-view cases? Regards, Stepanooo
I bought a Baseus flip case for $10 and cut a window out for the S-View. Works a treat (i.e., sleeps and wakes phone, displays proper notifications etc). Nice blue case too.
Mykew said:
I bought a Baseus flip case for $10 and cut a window out for the S-View. Works a treat (i.e., sleeps and wakes phone, displays proper notifications etc). Nice blue case too.
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Thanks for reply! Just can t understand how that hall sensor works, because if i cover sensor with hand or try to imitate cover nothing happens... read that it detects magnetic field but then i wonder if something should be built in the case itself... If someone knows please reply... Thanks
stepanooo said:
Thanks for reply! Just can t understand how that hall sensor works, because if i cover sensor with hand or try to imitate cover nothing happens... read that it detects magnetic field but then i wonder if something should be built in the case itself... If someone knows please reply... Thanks
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There has to be a small magnet in the cover for it to work. If the magnet is close to the Hall sensor on the phone, it will switch to the s-view mode.
You can try it yourself by moving a magnet along the left side of the phone until you find the right spot...
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There has to be a small magnet in the cover for it to work. If the magnet is close to the Hall sensor on the phone, it will switch to the s-view mode.
You can try it yourself by moving a magnet along the left side of the phone until you find the right spot...
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Unfortunately i don t have magnet with me now but thanks for approving the idea... I just don t understand why noone explains this quite interesting s4 feature... Searched google, forums, youtube - nothing...
Hi,
Just wondering if anybody knows if there are any ROMs available which allow you to disable the magnetic proximity sensor, just below the volume down rocker on the S4?
I work in an aluminium smelter and in production areas, the magnetic fields are very high due to the high DC current (240kA) used in the smelting process. What this means is that my S4 is unusable as the magnetic field holds the 'S View' sensor in its closed position as though an S case is closed. i.e. the phone only displays 'S View' mode rendering it useless in production areas.
Thanks
Paul
relli10 said:
Hi,
Just wondering if anybody knows if there are any ROMs available which allow you to disable the magnetic proximity sensor, just below the volume down rocker on the S4?
I work in an aluminium smelter and in production areas, the magnetic fields are very high due to the high DC current (240kA) used in the smelting process. What this means is that my S4 is unusable as the magnetic field holds the 'S View' sensor in its closed position as though an S case is closed. i.e. the phone only displays 'S View' mode rendering it useless in production areas.
Thanks
Paul
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You can turn this off in settings>My Device>Accessory>S View Cover Automatic Unlock
yabanize said:
You can turn this off in settings>My Device>Accessory>S View Cover Automatic Unlock
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I've tried this, but it doesn't disable the S View mode. Try yourself with a fridge magnet.
Use Elixir from the Play Store.
The S View cover does not use magnetic sensor. It uses proximity sensor.
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Dr.Engineer said:
The S View cover does not use magnetic sensor. It uses proximity sensor.
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You are wrong. It uses magnetic sensor only.
danum said:
Use Elixir from the Play Store.
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cool_sid007 said:
You are wrong. It uses magnetic sensor only.
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Did elixir work?
I to am trying to get that magnet disabled.
At work so I can't try elixir.
There are actually 2magnets.
One by the volume and the other is by the sensors above the screen.
Thanks.
dtr145r said:
Did elixir work?
I to am trying to get that magnet disabled.
At work so I can't try elixir.
There are actually 2magnets.
One by the volume and the other is by the sensors above the screen.
Thanks.
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If you're willing to install Xposed I can make a quick module to disable S-View. However some apps like the phone app might still respond to it as they handle it themselves rather than using the framework. That shouldn't be too annoying though.
Edit: btw this is better suited as a kernel patch to disable the sensor rather than the S-View screen. That might slightly lower consumption and would work better, but for warranty reasons I can see why a kernel patch would be annoying.
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MohammadAG said:
If you're willing to install Xposed I can make a quick module to disable S-View. However some apps like the phone app might still respond to it as they handle it themselves rather than using the framework. That shouldn't be too annoying though.
Edit: btw this is better suited as a kernel patch to disable the sensor rather than the S-View screen. That might slightly lower consumption and would work better, but for warranty reasons I can see why a kernel patch would be annoying.
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Sure I 'll try it out let me know what you need
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Can I ask the opposite question lol!
Is there a way to turn a standard wallet case in to an S-View by installing a magnet somewhere on the flap or something? Is it possible to make it work?
Aitch said:
Can I ask the opposite question lol!
Is there a way to turn a standard wallet case in to an S-View by installing a magnet somewhere on the flap or something? Is it possible to make it work?
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Yes. Get a hold of a magnet, it has to be reasonabley strong, I found that a fridge magnet was not strong enough, and hold it close to the volume down button and move it about a bit and find the optimum position, I actually find the magnet flat against the back or front near vol. Down works best, just be careful of screen.
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relli10 said:
Hi,
Just wondering if anybody knows if there are any ROMs available which allow you to disable the magnetic proximity sensor, just below the volume down rocker on the S4?
I work in an aluminium smelter and in production areas, the magnetic fields are very high due to the high DC current (240kA) used in the smelting process. What this means is that my S4 is unusable as the magnetic field holds the 'S View' sensor in its closed position as though an S case is closed. i.e. the phone only displays 'S View' mode rendering it useless in production areas.
Thanks
Paul
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Sure I 'll try it out let me know what you need
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Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.
MohammadAG said:
Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.
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ok.
getting everything installed now.
im a little worried about it working, im on CM so its not going to show the sview window at all.
ill let you know in a few minutes
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MohammadAG said:
Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.
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nope its not working.
pm me your email address and ill send you some log cats.
im pretty sure that sensor needs to be disabled. its causing the actual proximity sensor to be disabled which is why its causing me problems.
dtr145r said:
ok.
getting everything installed now.
im a little worried about it working, im on CM so its not going to show the sview window at all.
ill let you know in a few minutes
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nope its not working.
pm me your email address and ill send you some log cats.
im pretty sure that sensor needs to be disabled. its causing the actual proximity sensor to be disabled which is why its causing me problems.
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What exactly do you want to do? CM doesn't have S-View so this shouldn't be needed.
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MohammadAG said:
What exactly do you want to do? CM doesn't have S-View so this shouldn't be needed.
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i bought an s View cover for my phone.
im using cm
i downloaded an app from the play store that mock sview because obviously cm doesnt have it.
the app used to proximity cover to determine if the cover is open or closed.
the app works flawlessly when i use my finger to cover the proximity sensor.
when i use the sview cover it doesnt work.
the sview cover some how disables the proximity sensor. i know this because i have other apps that use the proximity sensor and they dont work either when i use that cover...
dtr145r said:
i bought an s View cover for my phone.
im using cm
i downloaded an app from the play store that mock sview because obviously cm doesnt have it.
the app used to proximity cover to determine if the cover is open or closed.
the app works flawlessly when i use my finger to cover the proximity sensor.
when i use the sview cover it doesnt work.
the sview cover some how disables the proximity sensor. i know this because i have other apps that use the proximity sensor and they dont work either when i use that cover...
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Oh, then your problem is different from the OP's. I suggest contacting the devs so they monitor the magnet rather than the proximity sensor.
My module simply disables S-View on stock TW ROMs.
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MohammadAG said:
Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleoc.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.
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hi! I also have this strong magnetic field work area problem.i found this topic and tried to install your module.Thank you very much because its working.the s-view window has been disabled.But the problem is the touchscreen is still disabled or not functioning.Is there a solution to this?THANKS!!
MohammadAG said:
Install Xposed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Install my module http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Android/Xposed/DisableSView.apk
It's as close as you can get without disabling the sensor. I didn't hook into the phone so that might still show the S-View window, but that's no biggie. Also, the Smart Stay icon disappears, but hey, that can be a plus
Please report back if this works for you so I can make a thread for it.
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Thank you so much, this seems to have solved my issue of my S4 always flashing the S View Cover display.
3ddown said:
hi! I also have this strong magnetic field work area problem.i found this topic and tried to install your module.Thank you very much because its working.the s-view window has been disabled.But the problem is the touchscreen is still disabled or not functioning.Is there a solution to this?THANKS!!
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Hi all !!
Thank you for the great forum!!
I installed the module and the S-view is not shown, but the touch screen is disabled.
I use a magnetic car holder and every time I hang up the phone to it, the S-lock the screen view!
I don't know if it's possible, but it could be a great thing to change the phone's behavior when the magnetic sensor detects a magnetic field, for example, you can choose to put the phone in car mode.
Thank you very much
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uzzos77 said:
Hi all !!
Thank you for the great forum!!
I installed the module and the S-view is not shown, but the touch screen is disabled.
I use a magnetic car holder and every time I hang up the phone to it, the S-lock the screen view!
I don't know if it's possible, but it could be a great thing to change the phone's behavior when the magnetic sensor detects a magnetic field, for example, you can choose to put the phone in car mode.
Thank you very much
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You ever figured out anything on this? I got a magnetic car holder too and it's kinda annoying with the S-View popping up.
It render S-Voice Drive useless.
It says in the manual that there is a "Hall sensor" hidden somewhere on the screen which allows the screen to be turned on/off when the case is opened/closed. I have a Noreve case which doesn't seem to have this functionality. Does anyone know what the Huawei case has inside it to make this happen, and where exactly it is? Is it a magnet or something else? I've tried moving a magnet everywhere on the screen but I wasn't able to trigger anything.
If possible, I'd like to modify my Noreve case to support his, but I have no idea how the original Huawei case does it.
Also, is there a setting which needs to be enabled for this to work? I have "smart cover" enabled, but I also tried my magnet attempts with it disabled.
From the manual:
"When you use the protective flip cover designed for the M3, the Hall sensor enables your screen to turn on automatically when you open the cover and to turn off when you close it."
"M3 has many useful features which can be used easily. As you open the M3 protective flip cover, the screen turns on. As you close it, the screen turns off."
adibadi said:
It says in the manual that there is a "Hall sensor" hidden somewhere on the screen which allows the screen to be turned on/off when the case is opened/closed. I have a Noreve case which doesn't seem to have this functionality. Does anyone know what the Huawei case has inside it to make this happen, and where exactly it is? Is it a magnet or something else? I've tried moving a magnet everywhere on the screen but I wasn't able to trigger anything.
If possible, I'd like to modify my Noreve case to support his, but I have no idea how the original Huawei case does it.
Also, is there a setting which needs to be enabled for this to work? I have "smart cover" enabled, but I also tried my magnet attempts with it disabled.
From the manual:
"When you use the protective flip cover designed for the M3, the Hall sensor enables your screen to turn on automatically when you open the cover and to turn off when you close it."
"M3 has many useful features which can be used easily. As you open the M3 protective flip cover, the screen turns on. As you close it, the screen turns off."
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Make sure Smart Cover is turned on in Smart Assistance settings.
I found it, just a bit up and left from the fingerprint sensor. Not all magnets work, and the pole matters, it only works in one orientation. I also had to put a metal plate on the other side of the magnet so it wouldn't lock it when the case is flipped open and against the back of the tablet.
This is now a perfect replacement for my broken galaxy Tab S!
I have the official Huawei case and I think there are two sensors as on the case there is a plate / magnet (visible under case) to the left and up a bit from the finger print sensor and a second one half way on the right hand edge. I'll try to post a photo tomorrow which will make a much better job than my description