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i doubt it works on our phones, but sure someone could try this, worse case is a bricked phone, best case doesnt run at all on the phone to begin with i cant make head nor tails of adb so i wont bother to try this, not to mention i dont wanna brick my only work phone for 2 days before i get a chance to drive to sprint to have it replaced, but perhaps its something to look into?
ive read the thread before , pretty sure people have tried it but , whats one more thing to try?
yeah. read most of it. I believe that could work on the evos. HOWEVER, mine is rooted. so muhahahaha. I won't be needing to do this. lol!
seems like it could work, temp root is pretty useless though
Fr3vo does not work with our phones. Sorry, but no dice.
Hey guys,
I'm about to get my first Android Phone (S7 Edge, or Note 7, not sure yet).
Now i'm curious how itll work out.
I want to root my device as fast as possible, but want to maintain it mostly "stock".
Just to have the opened up phone and being able to install .apks (for reasons).
Which one is the best way to go?
VIERcntHOLZ said:
Hey guys,
I'm about to get my first Android Phone (S7 Edge, or Note 7, not sure yet).
Now i'm curious how itll work out.
I want to root my device as fast as possible, but want to maintain it mostly "stock".
Just to have the opened up phone and being able to install .apks (for reasons).
Which one is the best way to go?
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You can install all apks without rooting
arnes_king said:
You can install all apks without rooting
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True, you don't need root for that.
I'd even recommend to stay away from root if you're getting such expensive devices, otherwise Samsung (most probably) won't give you warranty repairs if something fails.
VIERcntHOLZ said:
Hey guys,
I'm about to get my first Android Phone (S7 Edge, or Note 7, not sure yet).
Now i'm curious how itll work out.
I want to root my device as fast as possible, but want to maintain it mostly "stock".
Just to have the opened up phone and being able to install .apks (for reasons).
Which one is the best way to go?
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At first, welcome to XDA.
Like the guys said before, you easily can install APK's without root but i recommend you, to root your phone.
There are many advantages with root, custom roms and custom kernels. The phone is much faster and smoother
and rooting or even flashing a device is really easy nowadays, it is nearly impossible to brick a Samsung device.
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Samsung (most probably) won't give you warranty repairs if something fails.
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That's not completly true. Samsung often gives warranty on hardware issues, whether the device is rooted or not!
Only if you have a software problem and the device is rooted, samsung will not give you warranty.
Redrockzz said:
At first, welcome to XDA.
That's not completly true. Samsung often gives warranty on hardware issues, whether the device is rooted or not!
Only if you have a software problem and the device is rooted, samsung will not give you warranty.
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It is true at least in some countries, as here in Austria Samsung won't even take your phone or return it immediately if they see it's rooted, no matter what defect your phone has (SW or HW). You can trust me 100% on that, been there, done that
MisterKanister said:
It is true at least in some countries, as here in Austria Samsung won't even take your phone or return it immediately if they see it's rooted, no matter what defect your phone has (SW or HW). You can trust me 100% on that, been there, done that
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+1. Same for Pakistan.
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Since there is nothing for the Nova Smart out there..
There are no TWRP, no ROMs, no Root methods.
I wanted to ask: can I use the files that are made for Nova/Nova Plus for rooting and installing twrp?
My phone model is Diego-L01, I can't find anything online on it..
(I have already unlocked bootloader)
scionae said:
Since there is nothing for the Nova Smart out there..
There are no TWRP, no ROMs, no Root methods.
I wanted to ask: can I use the files that are made for Nova/Nova Plus for rooting and installing twrp?
My phone model is Diego-L01, I can't find anything online on it..
(I have already unlocked bootloader)
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Hi there!
Unfortunately, you can't use Nova's TWRP nor the ROMs made for it. Yes, you can try them, but the result will be a bricked phone (sometimes it can really be hard bricked), so there's no point to even try that unless you really want to brick your phone.
It might be called "Huawei Nova Smart", but it doesn't mean that you can use stuff from Huawei Nova just because is called Nova. It has different chipset etc. Same goes for Huawei Nova 2.
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Hi there!
Unfortunately, you can't use Nova's TWRP nor the ROMs made for it. Yes, you can try them, but the result will be a bricked phone (sometimes it can really be hard bricked), so there's no point to even try that unless you really want to brick your phone.
It might be called "Huawei Nova Smart", but it doesn't mean that you can use stuff from Huawei Nova just because is called Nova. It has different chipset etc. Same goes for Huawei Nova 2.
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So there is nothing to be done with this phone huh? What a shame...
scionae said:
So there is nothing to be done with this phone huh? What a shame...
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Of course it can have TWRP, LineageOS and other goodies, but someone must be willing to do them.
In my opinion, the chance for getting TWRP is quite low though. It doesn't look like it's a popular phone and right now it doesn't even have a XDA subforum. Also, it's one year old phone. It's just my opinion though, it doesn't mean that someone won't work on that phone, it's just that I doubt that it'll happen anytime soon.
As an advice, next time you'll buy a phone make sure to check whether it has XDA support or not, if you really care about that. I've did the same mistake like two times and I won't repeat it again.
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Of course it can have TWRP, LineageOS and other goodies, but someone must be willing to do them.
In my opinion, the chance for getting TWRP is quite low though. It doesn't look like it's a popular phone and right now it doesn't even have a XDA subforum. Also, it's one year old phone. It's just my opinion though, it doesn't mean that someone won't work on that phone, it's just that I doubt that it'll happen anytime soon.
As an advice, next time you'll buy a phone make sure to check whether it has XDA support or not, if you really care about that. I've did the same mistake like two times and I won't repeat it again.
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Well to be honest, someone should at least make a way to root this phone, I mean come on there are more stuff for my 5 years old phone that for this? <-<
Purchased a refurb S7 on eBay on the premise that it'd likely be on old firmware like most refurbs and I'd be able to root easy peasy- turns out it's running android 8.0.0 and baseband G930PVPSACSF1 and had everything updated last month and promptly wanted to check for even more updates when I started it up.
I've seen a lot of back and forth about which s7's can be rooted but nothing specific to this version as for some inexplicable version it appears Sprint released this update just recently for a three year old device.
I've spent most of this evening searching and haven't found anything that seems to indicate one way or the other. If I've missed something super obvious, I'd be grateful if somebody could point me in the direction of whatever reading I need to do to figure this out.
Thanks for any info you can point me to!
EDIT: One other thought- I've been looking into whether Magisk is a possible solution but I've seen a lot of different info as to whether it would even work on this variant of the phone, especially since TWRP seems to only have recoveries available for the international variants. Am I wasting time looking that way? I've also posted on the Magisk discussion thread to ask about it but I thought it was worth checking this forum as well since it's specifically for this phone.
Same issue
Have the same issue and can't find a root method for this phone too. Would like to remove the Sprint bloatware
Any news about it guys? I have the same phone and would like to root it. Willing to be the test dummy if it helps
ekco06 said:
Any news about it guys? I have the same phone and would like to root it. Willing to be the test dummy if it helps
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No and I wouldn't hold by breath either. Rooting has always been iffy on this phone from the start
@CyberSA @ekco06 I haven't seen anything and I'm torn between going ahead and flashing the 930U firmware and just returning the phone and getting something easier to root. The main thing I need is to be able to have unlimited wifi tether which seems to be possible with that firmware, but being able to use Titanium backup would also be really nice as it's been a staple for me so far.
blackbirdsinging said:
@[email protected] I haven't seen anything and I'm torn between going ahead and flashing the 930U firmware and just returning the phone and getting something easier to root. The main thing I need is to be able to have unlimited wifi tether which seems to be possible with that firmware, but being able to use Titanium backup would also be really nice as it's been a staple for me so far.
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Check out pdanet. It works well, but requires you to create a proxy to connect, but super easy. Probably won't work on game consoles, but works well on PCs
Quick update: Jumping ship. This phone is being returned and I'm grabbing a google pixel xl - much cheaper, same general age, less bloatware, easier to root, and better camera from all indications.
Ever phone or tablet I buy is always the one that cant be rooted without a pc. Everytime Odin required, so sick of it. I thought they were supposed to make a universal platform that all androids adhered to. What happened to that?
smokeuout said:
Ever phone or tablet I buy is always the one that cant be rooted without a pc. Everytime Odin required, so sick of it. I thought they were supposed to make a universal platform that all androids adhered to. What happened to that?
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Name a current device that doesn't need a PC to be rooted? Is that not universal enough?
ashyx said:
Name a current device that doesn't need a PC to be rooted? Is that not universal enough?
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No thats not universal enough. Go through the compatability list for framaroot, or master root and that will give your answer. I just want my phones to be on the same level. All on that list or not but there shouldnt be an in between
smokeuout said:
No thats not universal enough. Go through the compatability list for framaroot, or master root and that will give your answer. I just want my phones to be on the same level. All on that list or not but there shouldnt be an in between
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Ok humour me. Show me evidence of one device that either of those root exploits has been successful with since Android 5.
ashyx said:
Ok humour me. Show me evidence of one device that either of those root exploits has been successful with since Android 5.
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Okay but how am I going to show proof? Those one click root apps wouldnt be around if they didnt work...Look at towelroot as well, and also kingroot. Lots of options even though I have no proof
smokeuout said:
Okay but how am I going to show proof? Those one click root apps wouldnt be around if they didnt work...Look at towelroot as well, and also kingroot. Lots of options even though I have no proof
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Rooting a tablet is a security risk that manufacturers don't WANT users to take. They want rooting to be difficult. So, IMO, it is down right silly to think they'd intentionally let some apps, like the ones you mentioned, defeat their purpose. And NONE of those apps work on a high percentage of the tablets on the market today.
If having a tablet that can be rooted by one of them is that important to you, then I'd suggest you check the list BEFORE you make your purchase rather than whining about it when they don't work.
smokeuout said:
Okay but how am I going to show proof? Those one click root apps wouldnt be around if they didnt work...Look at towelroot as well, and also kingroot. Lots of options even though I have no proof
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They DON'T work that is the point. The fact that you actually mentioned towel root implies that you've been trawling the Internet and you don't quite know where things are up to with root.
Those exploits have long since been patched. Pretty much no one click root's work on any recent device.
Google have patched all current exploits. Any decent manufacturer should have updated their firmware to include the patches.
Anything MM onwards is unlikely to work with one of these one click root apps.
Any device that does simply means the manufacturer doesn't care about security or has abandoned the device.
My point here is that pretty much no device works with any of these one click root's anymore.
You have a device made by a manufacturer that cares about security.
The very thing you seem to be whining about.
Millions of devices are currently using the only real root solution avaliable, Magisk, which requires a PC.
@lewmur pretty much nailed it.
If you want a device that works with one of these one click exploits, sell your up to date device and buy yourself an old banger running kitkat.
lewmur said:
Rooting a tablet is a security risk that manufacturers don't WANT users to take. They want rooting to be difficult. So, IMO, it is down right silly to think they'd intentionally let some apps, like the ones you mentioned, defeat their purpose. And NONE of those apps work on a high percentage of the tablets on the market today.
If having a tablet that can be rooted by one of them is that important to you, then I'd suggest you check the list BEFORE you make your purchase rather than whining about it when they don't work.
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Oh but i do check before I make a purchase. But everytime for one reason or another things change or an update comes and all of a sudden, now you need Odin. That why im pissed kid.
Also im sure the companies arent letting anyone root by choice. They would rather have you pay $1200 for an official unlocked phone...lol...But yes those apps can and will work on many phones running 8.1 and before.. perhaps you should do your homework instead of sticking your head in the sand
ashyx said:
They DON'T work that is the point. The fact that you actually mentioned towel root implies that you've been trawling the Internet and you don't quite know where things are up to with root.
Those exploits have long since been patched. Pretty much no one click root's work on any recent device.
Google have patched all current exploits. Any decent manufacturer should have updated their firmware to include the patches.
Anything MM onwards is unlikely to work with one of these one click root apps.
Any device that does simply means the manufacturer doesn't care about security or has abandoned the device.
My point here is that pretty much no device works with any of these one click root's anymore.
You have a device made by a manufacturer that cares about security.
The very thing you seem to be whining about.
Millions of devices are currently using the only real root solution avaliable, Magisk, which requires a PC.
@lewmur pretty much nailed it.
If you want a device that works with one of these one click exploits, sell your up to date device and buy yourself an old banger running kitkat.
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Hey cool story but it doesnt apply here. Im sure you can see the title, read it....t580....Hardly cutting edge stuff. If i could downgrade i would but i cant without a pc. I accidently upgraded my tablet and screwed myself. Those apps wont work on a galaxy S10 or galaxy 4 tablet but if i hadnt upgraded i would have used that and it woulda worked. Is chainfire around? He could shed some light if hes still on this
smokeuout said:
Hey cool story but it doesnt apply here. Im sure you can see the title, read it....t580....Hardly cutting edge stuff. If i could downgrade i would but i cant without a pc. I accidently upgraded my tablet and screwed myself. Those apps wont work on a galaxy S10 or galaxy 4 tablet but if i hadnt upgraded i would have used that and it woulda worked. Is chainfire around? He could shed some light if hes still on this
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Not being rude, but you really have no idea.
If you actually understood anything about root and kept with the times, you would be aware why non of these exploits work on anything beyond Lollipop. Marshmallow if you're lucky and haven't updated.
Supersu stopped working with most devices at Nougat and not at all with Oreo or anything beyond.
Over and out.
ashyx said:
Not being rude, but you really have no idea.
If you actually understood anything about root and kept with the times, you would be aware why non of these exploits work on anything beyond Lollipop. Marshmallow if you're lucky and haven't updated.
Supersu stopped working with most devices at Nougat and not at all with Oreo or anything beyond.
Over and out.
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I understand all of that just fine, thats not what i was talking about. I mentioned chainfire not because of supersu but because when I used to be on this site daily chainfire would help me out every now and then. Im going to assume hes not so active in here anymore, but maybe im wrong.
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I understand all of that just fine, thats not what i was talking about. I mentioned chainfire not because of supersu but because when I used to be on this site daily chainfire would help me out every now and then. Im going to assume hes not so active in here anymore, but maybe im wrong.
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Chain fire sold supersu to a Chinese developer who has since abandoned it.
Chain fire announced his retirement from development a while back.
Magisk is now the only true root solution and even Magisk is constantly having to evolve to keep in the game.
All the other solutions you refer to were simply exploits that leveraged a vulnerability in the running system and have long since been patched even on older devices.
Magisk is not an exploit that leverages a vulnerability, but is a chain of modifications to the running system which is implemented both at the installation stage and at boot time. Similar to how Supersu used to work, but in a more advanced way which creates its own environment.
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Oh but i do check before I make a purchase. But everytime for one reason or another things change or an update comes and all of a sudden, now you need Odin. That why im pissed kid.
Also im sure the companies arent letting anyone root by choice. They would rather have you pay $1200 for an official unlocked phone...lol...But yes those apps can and will work on many phones running 8.1 and before.. perhaps you should do your homework instead of sticking your head in the sand
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That's BS. I've had a T580 since 2016 and you've never been able to root one without Odin. There is NO WAY it is on a list for one of those apps. If you just bought the T580 and checked and found it on one, name the one. Put up or shut up.