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hey everyone, I am about to release my rom (swag squad) and I was just wondering what features people REALLY want to see.
If you could just post what features you want to see I'll try and include every feature in the rom.
I know this may seem like a stupid thread but I think developers can be much better if people just tell them what they want.
Just post any questions in the thread and the rom will be released in the next 2 days or so.
thanks,
ljbaumer
gingerbread would be much appreciated.
Souviets said:
gingerbread would be much appreciated.
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Haha. at this point the rom is going to be 2.2 until a stable version of gingerbread is released for one of the "new"droid phones (Dx, D2, D2g, Dpro).
I am working on status bar controls on the pull down. Like on cyanogenmod and MIUI.
AOSP!!
Cool themes and icons instead of vanilla
thanks for the response,
The rom will be themed and it will have totally different icons than AOSP because in my opinion the AOSP icons are ridiculous.
The rom is based off of gummyjar right now but I will soon convert it to being based off of fission (gummyjar was originally based off of fission also). If tanzite turns out to be a completely stable AOSP alternative I will consider basing it off of that but at this point I have my doubts.
I am going to include the stock AOSP keyboard along with an HTC sense keyboard themed to look like the MIUI one and the controls in the status bar will not be released alongside the beta but should be out once the rom itself is out of beta.
Thanks,
ljbaumer
I'm not too worried about themes as I have a set 'theme' I kinda patch in to every rom I run but a black status bar with white text would be good as the default imo. Not sure if any of these would make it but here's a few things I would like to see:
Gingerbread Keyboard as main kb - The latest release of it as a standalone addon works very well on the D2 and the shrink effect is now gone
AOSP Lockscreen sliders
You mentioned the status bar icons already, but I'd love to see those in a rom on the D2
Have none of the google apps installed to the system by default, let users install them from the market or backups
And the impossible one for last!!! A battery manager that doesn't force close 50% of the time!
I have a few suggestions:
1. A charging light would be much appreciated, half the roms out there dont have it and its really an issue for me as I always think my phone is not charging.
2. Use the latest ADW (If that is what you are going to use), I dont like installing a new ROM and not having the choice to add or subtract screens or changing any launcher settings.
3. Have an alarm clock in by default. One of the main reasons I use fission is because I can still use the blur alarm with it, as I am not really impressed with any other alarm clock on the market.
4. Speed is always nice but without blur these phones run pretty smooth so im not too worried.
5. Make it work. This is kinda general but I just want a rom that I dont have to fiddle with to make it work. I agree with an above poster to leave everything out and just let us install it but things like the camcorder, GPS, USB etc are things that should work out of the box I dont want to have to wait for a new release so I can find my way through town.
Finally, thanks for helping out with these phones. I had to go to stock (Blur) for a little bit the other day and it just kills these phones people like you make me happy that I dont have to deal with a slow ass phone after spending 200 dollars on it.
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phrozen87 said:
I'm not too worried about themes as I have a set 'theme' I kinda patch in to every rom I run but a black status bar with white text would be good as the default imo. Not sure if any of these would make it but here's a few things I would like to see:
Gingerbread Keyboard as main kb - The latest release of it as a standalone addon works very well on the D2 and the shrink effect is now gone
AOSP Lockscreen sliders
You mentioned the status bar icons already, but I'd love to see those in a rom on the D2
Have none of the google apps installed to the system by default, let users install them from the market or backups
And the impossible one for last!!! A battery manager that doesn't force close 50% of the time!
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One version of the rom will come out with a black status bar and one will come out with a white. Neither of them are the stock black and white bar but modded versions.
I will try and include the GB keyboard and I didn't know it worked by itself. If you or someone could post a link to it I will include it as soon as I can. I also include a MIUI themed HTC keyboard which I think works incredibly well.
The rom dosen't include battery manager because of force close issues but under settings-about phone-battery use- you can see all of the things that have been using up the battery in the same way.
I think it will have the GB sliders at the beginning once it is released but soon after I will switch over to stock AOSP sliders with a blue option.
I have a few suggestions:
1. A charging light would be much appreciated, half the roms out there dont have it and its really an issue for me as I always think my phone is not charging.
2. Use the latest ADW (If that is what you are going to use), I dont like installing a new ROM and not having the choice to add or subtract screens or changing any launcher settings.
3. Have an alarm clock in by default. One of the main reasons I use fission is because I can still use the blur alarm with it, as I am not really impressed with any other alarm clock on the market.
4. Speed is always nice but without blur these phones run pretty smooth so im not too worried.
5. Make it work. This is kinda general but I just want a rom that I dont have to fiddle with to make it work. I agree with an above poster to leave everything out and just let us install it but things like the camcorder, GPS, USB etc are things that should work out of the box I dont want to have to wait for a new release so I can find my way through town.
Finally, thanks for helping out with these phones. I had to go to stock (Blur) for a little bit the other day and it just kills these phones people like you make me happy that I dont have to deal with a slow ass phone after spending 200 dollars on it.
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1: at this point I don't really know how to include a charging light lol. But if you give me the link to a rom that includes one I can probably figure it out.
2: personally, I am a HUGE launcherpro fan but I understand that a lot of people don't like having to pay $2.99 for the extra features and the free version isn't that great so I may end up including ADW launcher+launcher2
3:I will use the blur alarm clock
4:there will be basically no blur except for: camera, camcorder ( i think blur camera and camcorder work much better), alarm clock, and files.
5: I don't really get what you mean by let you install GPS and USB...
Thanks for the feedback,
ljbaumer
Try basing it off of Ultimate Droid for D2 when the final stable is released. It's AOSP and RC2 is running damn well on my D2, minus GPS and camcorder.
i wish there was a way to get the iphone keyboard i know the market has lookalikes but they dont perform like the real one (thats the only thing i like about iphones btw) or to stick with android it would be fantastic to get the dinc sense keyboard if there was some way to make it work.
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1: at this point I don't really know how to include a charging light lol. But if you give me the link to a rom that includes one I can probably figure it out.
2: personally, I am a HUGE launcherpro fan but I understand that a lot of people don't like having to pay $2.99 for the extra features and the free version isn't that great so I may end up including ADW launcher+launcher2
3:I will use the blur alarm clock
4:there will be basically no blur except for: camera, camcorder ( i think blur camera and camcorder work much better), alarm clock, and files.
5: I don't really get what you mean by let you install GPS and USB...
Thanks for the feedback,
ljbaumer
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1. Fission is really the only one I know that has it.
2. I would really appreciate that.
3. Thank god.
4. Awesome. I completely agree
5. I just mean that some ROMs don't have the basics down. When I install your rom I want my phone to work. I dont mean that we should be able to isntall that stuff just that it works.
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1. Fission is really the only one I know that has it.
2. I would really appreciate that.
3. Thank god.
4. Awesome. I completely agree
5. I just mean that some ROMs don't have the basics down. When I install your rom I want my phone to work. I dont mean that we should be able to isntall that stuff just that it works.
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1: I will end up basing it off of fission but the first release will be from gummyjar2.1
5:the rom should 'just work' and I would never release some crap that people have to work on forever for it to look good and run well because I hate those roms also.
i wish there was a way to get the iphone keyboard i know the market has lookalikes but they dont perform like the real one (thats the only thing i like about iphones btw) or to stick with android it would be fantastic to get the dinc sense keyboard if there was some way to make it work.
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Iphone keyboard would be hard because it uses a different file type for applications and I would have to spend forever porting that over and I would probably need to finish learning java and the android APIs (which I am working on).
The sense keyboard is a themed droid inc keyboard and it will end up using the gingerbread keyboard and the sense keyboard will be a second option.
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Haha. at this point the rom is going to be 2.2 until a stable version of gingerbread is released for one of the "new"droid phones (Dx, D2, D2g, Dpro).
I am working on status bar controls on the pull down. Like on cyanogenmod and MIUI.
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i would love to have status bar controls on the pull down!!!, oh and rotary lock screen, thats pretty much all i would like, it should be smooth, fast, and sleek
status bar controls are not the easiest thing to port and it won't be there on the first release but should be there pretty soon after.
I would usually be totally up for anything a user want EXCEPT for rotary lockscreen.
Sorry guys but rotary lockscreen is not going to be featured in swag squad because personally I hate how it looks. sorry
Right now I am converting the base of the rom to fission. I would release the rom right now except for my website and paypal donate are not up and I want those things to be up before IU release the rom.
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status bar controls are not the easiest thing to port and it won't be there on the first release but should be there pretty soon after.
I would usually be totally up for anything a user want EXCEPT for rotary lockscreen.
Sorry guys but rotary lockscreen is not going to be featured in swag squad because personally I hate how it looks. sorry
Right now I am converting the base of the rom to fission. I would release the rom right now except for my website and paypal donate are not up and I want those things to be up before IU release the rom.
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thats fine i can live without it, if we get the status bar controls
lol
I'm almost done moving everything over to the fission base, I just have to make the black status bar theme and then test it out.
I will work on my website tonight and hopefully I can finish it by the end of tomorrow so I can release the rom.
All my requests have been slowly added to various ROMs so far, except one. Notification power controls would be absolutely amazing. The one feature I've never seen on a D2 ROM that I want a lot.
Well I just finished moving it over to a fission base so that is all i am working on
can't wait to release this thing
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All my requests have been slowly added to various ROMs so far, except one. Notification power controls would be absolutely amazing. The one feature I've never seen on a D2 ROM that I want a lot.
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Fast responding. Good battery life. Stable. And everything said above. And as much gingerbread stuff as possible.
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Fast responding. Good battery life. Stable. And everything said above. And as much gingerbread stuff as possible.
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It should be very fast especially since it is based off of fission which is just about as fast as roms get on the DROID2.
Battery life should be decent as well.
Gingerbread is not really my thing but there should be a fair amount of gingerbread apps included.
Thanks,
ljbaumer
So now we have several MIUI roms for N1 but which one is the best?
Stability,performance,packed goodies....
Which MIUI is the best and why for you?
Why is MIUI so special? Just go buy an iPhone, it's kind the same... Really, I don't find anything special but heavy modded graphics. What do you use MIUI features for?
It's simply the fastest roms for N1, the menus just fly
I find Enomther's really fast.
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Why is MIUI so special? Just go buy an iPhone, it's kind the same... Really, I don't find anything special but heavy modded graphics. What do you use MIUI features for?
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Maybe some would love the UI but hate the OS?
I have seen some people adding WP7 UI like into Galaxy S. All these just show how flexible Android can be.
That's true, but being like that, someone could just create a iPhone-like launcher touching nothing else.
If you keep using the MIUI stock Launcher than yes it looks like a far family member of iphone, but if you use the exellent ADW you gain the extra speed from MIUI + some goodies like the Themes while having an Android UI
CM7 is also very fast but unstable for me whatever is the build: dead touchscreen when calling could happen any time
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Maybe some would love the UI but hate the OS?
I have seen some people adding WP7 UI like into Galaxy S. All these just show how flexible Android can be.
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I hate people who attempt to re-create WP7's UI on Android. There is no way you can properly emulate the simplicity and beauty of WP7 with static blue icons. MIUI may try to copy the iPhone over to Android, but even then you have to remember it is simply a User Interface. Android is still under there, not iOS. Everyone knows out off all the major mobile operating systems Android lacks in the UI department (opinion, of course).
And MIUI attempts to remedy that problem.
i tested [ROM] Miui-AU ROM (english/german) but it isn't that fast.
The Launcher ist laggy (compared to GO or LP) and no scrollable widgets...
i know you can use a different launcher, but then i dont need MIUI...
I just want to recall that this topic is about which MIUI is the best, not if MIUI is good or not...
Ive been using Eveek's eMIUI for a while. I reckon its the best one out of the lot simply cos its the most stable version around.. Also Ive noticed this rom is near enough stock with very minor tweaks. Compare it to others they have heavily modded the stock version which wasnt to my liking!
i had no idea MIUI was so much faster. why is it faster? i only watched one video on MIUI and it was kinda cool but i never tried it out. am i missing something by not trying it?
MIUI is always ahead of the curve when it comes to design and innovation. It was the first with lockscreen music control, the first with power control in the notification bar, the first with a built in theme manager system (with an online data base for easy theme searching and downloading), the first with FM radio on the N1 etc. Not only did it do these things first, but it does them the best.
It has an absolutely gorgeous UI (hi-resolution icons, transitions, themes and menus that blow stock Android out of the water). It's fast and has amazing battery life. The folder system for App organization is light years ahead of the app drawer, which is archaic and inefficient. Also, the support for this ROM is amazing!
Let's get real, it takes some of the best elements of the iPhone UI (ex high resolution, unified icons) and combines it with everything great about Android. Those saying it's just trying o copy the iPhone are ignorant and should really just get their heads out of their asses.
Sure, it might not be for everyone but I would encourage people to try it first before they dismiss it. I was skeptical at first as well but I've been using it for months now and have no intentions of going back to anything else. I flashed CM7 to try out but it doesn't compare, that is my opinion.
And I would recommend getting the stock ROM from miui-dev.com just because the support for the stock ROM is so much better than the MIUI ROMs here. There is an online theme database that comes as an app with the ROM anyways, so you can change up the look very easily if you choose to do so.
ya you are missing out, it is highly optimized, solid fast, great battery life, weekly updates, everything makes sense..hence why cyanogen has borrowed some ideas/stuff. Most people just talk **** about miui cuz it looks iphonish, let them be nubs because from the ground up miui has alot more development and is way more advanced than alot of other roms out there, just my two cents but they are worth more than others
I'm not sure whenever I'd consider MIUI one step ahead the current UIs. I find no user friendly evolution, just reordered things. I mean, no intelligent way to launch an application (and no, gestures are NOT the way it will be as you have to remember the gesture), no "outstanding" graphics (I'm not impressed by them, not after 5 minutes handling it).
Is it fast? People in this thread have already replied: it's not fast, it may be faster than CM (which IMHO is getting too choppy due to too many under-the-hood things users are not interested in), but it's not faster than Enomther's, for example. No way.
Why is it followed then? Really simple: it's not the usual CM ROM. If only there was another launcher, people may not idolize this ROM. Kudos to the developers for developing it though, otherwise CM would be the (choppy) standard.
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[...]Those saying it's just trying o copy the iPhone are ignorant and should really just get their heads out of their asses.
Sure, it might not be for everyone but I would encourage people to try it first before they dismiss it. [...]
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I well tested it as I pushed forward the italian translation, but I always been perplexed about its app management and launcher in general. Yes, I prefere the archaic and - IMHO - efficient current one. And no, there is not so much other code I'd import in any other ROM. From my point of view it's just a (shining?) iPhone UI with FM radio. Kudos for them releasing the radio part. That's all.
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I'm not sure whenever I'd consider MIUI one step ahead the current UIs. I find no user friendly evolution, just reordered things. I mean, no intelligent way to launch an application (and no, gestures are NOT the way it will be as you have to remember the gesture), no "outstanding" graphics (I'm not impressed by them, not after 5 minutes handling it).
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Can you give some examples of an intelligent way to launch an application? Just curious.
I'm partial to formel. He keeps up with the latest and its a one shot you're done rom. No need to fiddle with the language packs. I was using enom before which was a very good rom. I get similar batt with formel and the performance is a little smoother. I'm using adw as I'm not fond of the iphone layout anyways. IMO this is a good start for those that want to scope out miui and see what its about. Its pretty much bug free and stable for day to day use which for me is important. I need my phone to work.
I was an Enom fan too, complete rom and very stable but...you get tired pretty soon!
I used to play with Rodriguez's MIUI because it was full of goodies but God knows why he disapeared all of a sudden
Now I am trying Moviestar HD which seems stable but the Theme app can't apply themes downloaded even renamed into mtz, I heard MIUI-AU is the best on Desire but its adaptation on N1 is unstable
The themes work on formel except for the sms skinning. Dont believe that one is figured out yet. The rodriguez rom is good but is 3 releases back now and it has a fair few bugs I turned up in just a few days of usage. Overall the goodies didnt equal out to a newer and quite a bit more tuned up version of miui. I have not tried moviestar yet. Frankly I"m pretty happy with formel. It flat works.
I figured that I can use a custom theme via File Manager but sms app doesn't change like on Formel.
I think a newer theme app is available because it says so when I use it but when I try to download the link is not working!
I hope in next versions of Formel and Moviestar they will use the new fixed one, dunno about MIUI-AU
Hey all - looking for some flashers' opinions on MIUI. What do you think? Do you like it? It looks really slick and very functional, but I feel kind of lame flashing something onto my Android that looks so much like iOS lol, like I'm trying to be a poser But to those of you who run it or have tried it, what did you like and what did you not like?
I would maybe be running Launcher Plus Pro over it, so I'm also curious to hear what people think of the whole system, not just the home screen...?
Its a wierd looking rom. Kind of hard to navigate, is not user friendly in my opinion. The UI is too complicated and not so easy to use. I also didn't like that it doesn't have an app drawer.
I also got alot of fc's with that rom. I don't know. Just alot of lil things I didn't like.
MIUI is great! even though it does resemble iOS. It's smooth and responsive and I haven't had any force closes. What I noticed is I don't have to download an alternate launcher, sms app, browser, etc. I guess some bad things are no app drawer but I just organize all the apps into folders. Also there are a lot of settings you can mess with and the UI takes some getting used to but I think thats the fun of flashing new ROMs, something new to play with. Try out thederekjay's ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060415 I'm pretty sure you'll like it too! And make sure you read everything before trying it out. =p
this rom looks very nice im give it a try when i can and let ya guys know what up thx
I know some people really like it, but my PERSONAL OPINION is, if I wanted iOs, i would get an iPhone.
I have tried it twice because after my first try it felt like a gimick and too iphonish but I liked the icons. After the second useage I missed the drawer and I also got a lot of fcs. What I did to satify my Miui taste was download the MIUI launcher. Its made exactly like ADW and looks like MIUI with a drawer and you could add icons.
Thank you all for your opinions! I'm on the go right now and can't flash it, but will when I have some time to play around with it and test it out. Like I said, I'll likely be throwing LPP over it to use as my home launcher, so I'm curious about how it runs system-wide, not just the aesthetics of the launcher...good battery? Good data connection and speeds? I'll likely be trying the demonspeed MIUI rom by derek...I know the settings menu and just about everything is different from AOSP/Sense, so I'm curious to try something new...
I have flashed both Evil D's and thederekjay's MIUI roms and I love them both! tdj's demonSPEED rom is blazing fast and never had any real problems with it(the problems I did have were fixed very quickly ). it does resemble iOS, but more customizable. yes the menu options are confusing at times, but after a while you get used to it and know where everything is. I also have used both ADW EX and LauncherPro with no issues with both roms. battery life is awesome, I got 26hrs on a full charge. some advice: make a nandroid backup and just flash one of the MIUI roms, preferably demonSPEED, to get a feel for it. cant hurt to try it out its a very fun rom. plus netflix works
Lets not forget the Cool Things you can do in it. The New Version 1.5.20 has the MIUI Camera and this Camera is Really Good. It Auto Focuses and is very fast when taking pics. Plus when you get a MMS you have the option to save the pic and also crop or rotate it how you like. Then lets not forget about the Flashlight while pressing home on lockscreen. Comes in handy if you need it for a minute. And the Dialer has an option to record calls, if you might need to after authorization from the other person first. Those are the main things that i like about it but overall its really great. Oh and the Gallery is light and loads really fast. Especially if you have a lot of pics like me.
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Lets not forget the Cool Things you can do in it. The New Version 1.5.20 has the MIUI Camera and this Camera is Really Good. It Auto Focuses and is very fast when taking pics. Plus when you get a MMS you have the option to save the pic and also crop or rotate it how you like. Then lets not forget about the Flashlight while pressing home on lockscreen. Comes in handy if you need it for a minute. And the Dialer has an option to record calls, if you might need to after authorization from the other person first. Those are the main things that i like about it but overall its really great. Oh and the Gallery is light and loads really fast. Especially if you have a lot of pics like me.
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not to mention the pull down is really neat and if u long press the icons it takes u directly to that option(thats one of my favs) also much like Sense, it has the abilty to flip to silence and quiet ring on pickup.. Eh maybe does resemble iOS in someways(and boy do i hate apple)... but imho it takes the functionality from different manufactures/developers and mashes them into one... the dialer is second to none, with t9 capabilities, to the little details in tells u(for example missed calls, the number of rings before they hung up, that's just neat) the sms/mms is beyond that of any stock rom... searching for contacts is a breeze... i honestly have never used a rom that is so functional right out of the box without the assistance of 3rd party apps... battery life is great and the way it utilizes the ram is beyond awesome..the launcher may be really iphoneish but it looks amazing with how the icons r sized and just the graphical dispaly alone is great! not for nothing, if the only thing holding u back from MIUI is the iphoneish look, i would suggest downloading it and using it for a week... i was the same way @ first but now i wont look back!
It is not bad... But to plain for my tastes. I tried it and went right back to Virtuous Fusion.
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It is not bad... But to plain for my tastes. I tried it and went right back to Virtuous Fusion.
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hmmm not sure where u get "plain" from... there is really nothing else like it.. plus between features and how u can customize it... but hey thats ur opinion and we r all entitled to one..
I really like MIUI look, but never could see a point in using it since it looks horrible when I jack my LCD Density to 160 or 140... so kind of defeated the purpose.
If you are using the default 240 density (not sure how anyone can use this phone at all at that density personally), it's actually a pretty slick/clean looking interface IMHO.
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I really like MIUI look, but never could see a point in using it since it looks horrible when I jack my LCD Density to 160 or 140... so kind of defeated the purpose.
If you are using the default 240 density (not sure how anyone can use this phone at all at that density personally), it's actually a pretty slick/clean looking interface IMHO.
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Which of the density changer apps are you using?
Miui is HORRIBLE. It is ios look alike and it is the exact same look and feel of samsucks touchwiz. I would never use miui. Its horrible.
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Miui is HORRIBLE. It is ios look alike and it is the exact same look and feel of samsucks touchwiz. I would never use miui. Its horrible.
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It sounds like either people like it or hate. I used royalginger for sometime with launcher pro plus. It was fast and smooth but battery was less ideal with launcher pro. Stock launcher was too plain for me. So I tried thederekjay's MIUI rom for kicks and loved it. Takes some getting use to coming from CM7based rom. Tons of customization to modify the look of the phone. Runs very fast and smooth. Great battery life. You should give it a fair look with a test drive to see if you like it.
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Miui is HORRIBLE. It is ios look alike and it is the exact same look and feel of samsucks touchwiz. I would never use miui. Its horrible.
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haha i will bet any amount of money this is that hydroroms guy that got banned for trying to charge ppl money to dl his rom... watch u will see that soon he will post in the dev section with some bs rom... he is just hatin cause i called him out on it...
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LCD Density Changer
i wouldnt bother flashing it just because it looks so much like iOS.
So I flashed it earlier tonight, and tried it for about an hour...in the end, my personal opinion was that I wasn't crazy about it. It was fun to play around with something totally different than the usual AOSP/Sense roms, but the aesthetics and overall look and feel just wasn't doing it for me. Maybe it's because I've gotten used to the other android os options, but it didn't seem as refined and classy as some of the other roms. To each his own, but for me I'm going to flash to something else.
But to thederekjay, thank you for your hard work on the rom! I could see why some would like it, and the rom itself felt smooth. That's the great thing about having options We can all flash and run what works best for us
Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?
Other than face unlock, for which I have absolutely no use for, whats missing?
+ Beats HC and the former ICS/JB custom ROMS by a mile.
+ Runs great, especially the browser.
+ Looks good, but I like stock JB better, nothing to bad though.
too big font, too bright color, ugly locking screen, lost about 200MB RAM.
All other things are great.
Its touchwiz again. I think it looks horrible and i hope cm10 will get the camera drivers soon.
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As far as performance is concerned it is great, a big step forward compared to previous ROMs or other custom firmware. Unfortunately, it is bloated with Touchwiz apps which are not necessary since there are Google equivalent apps that do the job perfectly well.
However, the biggest issue for me is the fact that it has no consistent user interface, a problem common to all non-stock Android versions. The Samsung apps have their own Touchwiz user interface while all other apps use the standard ICS user interface elements and colours. Some system elements like the Settings panel and various pop up windows utilise the Touchwiz graphical elements while others the standard ICS elements. Even the arrows that allow the user to select a piece of text look completely different depending on whether one is running a Samsung app or a standard Android one!
In my opinion, it is important for an OS which depends heavily on the user interface, like tablet and phone OSes, to have a common and standard look and feel not only for cosmetic purposes but also to ensure that the users are not confused and all apps look consistent with a specific design philosophy so that users can easily locate menus and other elements. This is the biggest failure of Touchwiz and as a result the overall look and feel of this firmware is strange with bright and colourful user interface elements when Touchwiz is used and dark black and blue elements when running standard Android apps.
Notice here that I am not judging the quality of Touchwiz vs standard ICS and some people prefer the one instead of the other. I am saying that whatever the choice of user inteface it has to be consistent throughout the system and third-party apps. Personally, I prefer the standard ICS user inteface but this is not the point of my argument.
I hope that third-party Android developers will use the updated libraries of this firmware as well as the camera drivers to produce a fully functioning standard ICS or Jelly Bean ROM through projects like CM9/CM10 for the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
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Braaank said:
Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?
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I am one of those who actually MUCH prefer Touchwiz and the other Samsung apps, added settings and personalizations (for example the overlay mini-apps and the now configurable screenshot button are extremely handy and I hate the "2-steps" notification bar in non-TW ROMs) so for me this ROM is GREAT.
I have never been interested in the least in face-unlock, I have always used the pattern lockscreen.
What I would have liked to see in this ROM are the SIM application toolkit, the numbers top row in the keyboard (like in all the recent Samsung keyboards) and the battery percentage.
P.S. that said, if the G.Tab 10.1 isn't going to get an official JB update from Samsung I am sure that at some point, once it matures, I will go back to CM10...
I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks
Braaank said:
Well i already installed it wit infamous 2 but i dont like it. I think touchwiz in this rom look horrible, with colors that in personal i dont like it. And many features like face unlock are not in this upgrade. What do you think?
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I'm as happy as a pig in ****, now I might use it for more than a glorified Netflix machine.
That was the thing with the custom ICS/JB roms is that they were so unstable and brought literally nothing to the table besides being someone else's opinion on what they thought I wanted.
I want stability and I want good, official looking apps. Not File Manager HD with its advertising aids and not some bright ass boot animation that blinds me every time I have to reboot because it froze overnight.
But I digress.
I think this release by Samsung is quite amazing, and it will hold me off long enough till I decide to buy a newer model Galaxy Tab.
At the rate Samsung is going they are going to be my new favorite company. Not just because of this update, for numerous other dealings as well.
peraburek said:
I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks
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I had that same problem yesterday, no matter which keyboard I tried, I'll probably just use another terminal app.
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The new version is definitely a step ahead. It seems Swype is usable now, although it still lags a bit but at least it can keep up with typing for me not like earlier versions.
I also like it and I guess touchwiz is inevitable. Desktop customization has been upgraded too which is very useful.
If something else could be asked is a tad more smoothness when switching desktops and probably one last push update to jelly bean for increased smoothness.
We'll see in the coming days with extended use. For.me :good:
Am I the only one havin' problems playin' some HD videos in the youtube app? (Factory Reset done after odin flash) My old SGS running ICS is capable of doin' that.
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the ugliness of the Samsung 4.0.4 really disturbs me...
Was Samsung smoking pot in the many months spent on making it on to 10.1?
peraburek said:
I have installed it on P7500 3G and it works fine (4.0.4 firmware for Italy)
however, keyboard does NOT work in Android Terminal Emulator, and I don´t know why
does anybody else use Terminal Emulator, can you check and report? thanks
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It doesn't work for me too. I can enter numbers and other symbols, but I cannot enter any letters.
Edit: It turned out, that using Swype instead of Samsung keyboard, works great in the Terminal Emulator.
new ics samsung
iI like it, very stable and with best email stock client that I never see.
I really am digging it. My only complaint so far is how close the notification icons are to each other.
le_novo said:
Am I the only one havin' problems playin' some HD videos in the youtube app? (Factory Reset done after odin flash) My old SGS running ICS is capable of doin' that.
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same problem here ...
The only thing that i complain in this new build, is there are some games that aren't working. For example Mass Effect (GooglePlay obviously) it works on CM9, however doesn't on the Samsung rom (both 4.04).
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same problem here ...
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no problems whatsoever here and what "problems" are you two talking about exactly?
P.S. and I watch a lot of Youtube videos on the tab
daniel_fm said:
The new version is definitely a step ahead. It seems Swype is usable now, although it still lags a bit but at least it can keep up with typing for me not like earlier versions.
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Yes!!! This was probably the first thing I checked once the install had finished. I love Swype but it was pretty much unusable in stock HC on the tab. No more automatic deleting of the last two characters when typing a search into the browser!!!
From my perspective it's a it early to give an opinion but it's looking good so far although my quadrant score has taken a nosedive (yes, I know that doesn't mean anytihgn in reality)
Lagging playback on some HD videos.
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Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
coolraghav said:
Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
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Flash an AOSP ROM.
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coolraghav said:
Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
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Just spend ten minutes looking through the settings and getting it how you want it. Pretty much all the features that you don't need can be disabled. If you've had a Nexus 4 I don't see how an S4 could be any more difficult to use to be honest.
Thanks for your reply wolf, is it as easy as it was with nexus4 or do i have to face any trouble. I'm completely newbie in all this.
mshaw03 said:
Just spend ten minutes looking through the settings and getting it how you want it. Pretty much all the features that you don't need can be disabled. If you've had a Nexus 4 I don't see how an S4 could be any more difficult to use to be honest.
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A. Settings, its easier in vanilla.
B.All the samsung apps are coming before
C. When I long-click an app in applications menu, i liked the idea of app info/uninstall
D. Hate samsung apps ..
Also how do i find what processor my phone is running ? As I'm not sure yet which processor in India they've released.
coolraghav said:
A. Settings, its easier in vanilla.
B.All the samsung apps are coming before
C. When I long-click an app in applications menu, i liked the idea of app info/uninstall
D. Hate samsung apps ..
Also how do i find what processor my phone is running ? As I'm not sure yet which processor in India they've released.
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They've released the i9500 version and you can check the Model number of the device:
Settings->last tab->About Device->Model Number.
Just install another launcher like Nova or APEX, they will give you the plain stock Android experience you are looking for. I have Nova running and it actually sped up my phone substantially. I also checked the RAM availability before and after using Nova and essentially stayed the same. Give it a try.
coolraghav said:
Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
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nycrazyg said:
Just install another launcher like Nova or APEX, they will give you the plain stock Android experience you are looking for. I have Nova running and it actually sped up my phone substantially. I also checked the RAM availability before and after using Nova and essentially stayed the same. Give it a try.
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Plain stock? No not really lol. How do you get rid of black and neon green colors
i'm not fond of launchers eh.
guys how can I arrange apps alphabetically...its so hard finding an app now!! lol .. i miss my nexus .. haha somehow tell me how to make it plain n simple.
coolraghav said:
i'm not fond of launchers eh.
guys how can I arrange apps alphabetically...its so hard finding an app now!! lol .. i miss my nexus .. haha somehow tell me how to make it plain n simple.
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Will get my s4 tomorrow.. but in my s3, its done like this.. i am very sure its the same in the s4
Go to app drawer--> press menu button--> view type--> alphabetical grid..done
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mshaw03 said:
Just spend ten minutes looking through the settings and getting it how you want it. Pretty much all the features that you don't need can be disabled. If you've had a Nexus 4 I don't see how an S4 could be any more difficult to use to be honest.
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Chillz88 said:
Will get my s4 tomorrow.. but in my s3, its done like this.. i am very sure its the same in the s4
Go to app drawer--> press menu button--> view type--> alphabetical grid..done
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got it, thanks mate! i was just more used to 3 buttons @ bottom of screen (n4)
wednesday13 said:
Plain stock? No not really lol. How do you get rid of black and neon green colors
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Black and Neon Green colors? I'm guessing you haven't given Nova or Apex a try. It changes everything, homescreen, app drawer, and with Nova you can even set a theme color that changes the color accent colors of the Menus. I used to own a Galaxy Nexus, and I have the options using these launchers to revert everything to stock Android. Don't knock it until you try it, I mean really try it though.
coolraghav said:
i'm not fond of launchers eh.
guys how can I arrange apps alphabetically...its so hard finding an app now!! lol .. i miss my nexus .. haha somehow tell me how to make it plain n simple.
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If you're talking about Touch Wiz, the option is in the Touch Wiz app drawer. Hit Menu, then View Type, There's Alphabetical Grid, or Alphabetical List.
Just install nova or apex launcher. Works like a charm.
I prefer nova launcher though.
i'm coming from a nexus 4 as well i too hate all the preinstalled samsung apps, but I disabled most of them.
What I can't stand is the physical home button. Its not a deal breaker but i HATE IT
i switched from nexus 4 too.
things i hate about the s4:
1. back button on the right side because i usually use my phone with the left hand.
2. no recent apps button. so holding the home button is slow.
3. no aosp browser unless using doc's barebone rom. chrome and stock browser is so slowww compared to this.
4. bloated apps and bloated gimmicks features like smart and gesture things which slow down the phone. resolved by turning them off and using doc's barebone rom.
things to love on the s4:
1. nice screen, i mean really really great.
2. better camera than the nexus 4, the nexus 4 has cool tint, like blueish.
3. micro sd card
4. replacable battery, i mean just get the battery kit and have infinity battery. awesome.