So now we have several MIUI roms for N1 but which one is the best?
Stability,performance,packed goodies....
Which MIUI is the best and why for you?
Why is MIUI so special? Just go buy an iPhone, it's kind the same... Really, I don't find anything special but heavy modded graphics. What do you use MIUI features for?
It's simply the fastest roms for N1, the menus just fly
I find Enomther's really fast.
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Why is MIUI so special? Just go buy an iPhone, it's kind the same... Really, I don't find anything special but heavy modded graphics. What do you use MIUI features for?
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Maybe some would love the UI but hate the OS?
I have seen some people adding WP7 UI like into Galaxy S. All these just show how flexible Android can be.
That's true, but being like that, someone could just create a iPhone-like launcher touching nothing else.
If you keep using the MIUI stock Launcher than yes it looks like a far family member of iphone, but if you use the exellent ADW you gain the extra speed from MIUI + some goodies like the Themes while having an Android UI
CM7 is also very fast but unstable for me whatever is the build: dead touchscreen when calling could happen any time
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Maybe some would love the UI but hate the OS?
I have seen some people adding WP7 UI like into Galaxy S. All these just show how flexible Android can be.
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I hate people who attempt to re-create WP7's UI on Android. There is no way you can properly emulate the simplicity and beauty of WP7 with static blue icons. MIUI may try to copy the iPhone over to Android, but even then you have to remember it is simply a User Interface. Android is still under there, not iOS. Everyone knows out off all the major mobile operating systems Android lacks in the UI department (opinion, of course).
And MIUI attempts to remedy that problem.
i tested [ROM] Miui-AU ROM (english/german) but it isn't that fast.
The Launcher ist laggy (compared to GO or LP) and no scrollable widgets...
i know you can use a different launcher, but then i dont need MIUI...
I just want to recall that this topic is about which MIUI is the best, not if MIUI is good or not...
Ive been using Eveek's eMIUI for a while. I reckon its the best one out of the lot simply cos its the most stable version around.. Also Ive noticed this rom is near enough stock with very minor tweaks. Compare it to others they have heavily modded the stock version which wasnt to my liking!
i had no idea MIUI was so much faster. why is it faster? i only watched one video on MIUI and it was kinda cool but i never tried it out. am i missing something by not trying it?
MIUI is always ahead of the curve when it comes to design and innovation. It was the first with lockscreen music control, the first with power control in the notification bar, the first with a built in theme manager system (with an online data base for easy theme searching and downloading), the first with FM radio on the N1 etc. Not only did it do these things first, but it does them the best.
It has an absolutely gorgeous UI (hi-resolution icons, transitions, themes and menus that blow stock Android out of the water). It's fast and has amazing battery life. The folder system for App organization is light years ahead of the app drawer, which is archaic and inefficient. Also, the support for this ROM is amazing!
Let's get real, it takes some of the best elements of the iPhone UI (ex high resolution, unified icons) and combines it with everything great about Android. Those saying it's just trying o copy the iPhone are ignorant and should really just get their heads out of their asses.
Sure, it might not be for everyone but I would encourage people to try it first before they dismiss it. I was skeptical at first as well but I've been using it for months now and have no intentions of going back to anything else. I flashed CM7 to try out but it doesn't compare, that is my opinion.
And I would recommend getting the stock ROM from miui-dev.com just because the support for the stock ROM is so much better than the MIUI ROMs here. There is an online theme database that comes as an app with the ROM anyways, so you can change up the look very easily if you choose to do so.
ya you are missing out, it is highly optimized, solid fast, great battery life, weekly updates, everything makes sense..hence why cyanogen has borrowed some ideas/stuff. Most people just talk **** about miui cuz it looks iphonish, let them be nubs because from the ground up miui has alot more development and is way more advanced than alot of other roms out there, just my two cents but they are worth more than others
I'm not sure whenever I'd consider MIUI one step ahead the current UIs. I find no user friendly evolution, just reordered things. I mean, no intelligent way to launch an application (and no, gestures are NOT the way it will be as you have to remember the gesture), no "outstanding" graphics (I'm not impressed by them, not after 5 minutes handling it).
Is it fast? People in this thread have already replied: it's not fast, it may be faster than CM (which IMHO is getting too choppy due to too many under-the-hood things users are not interested in), but it's not faster than Enomther's, for example. No way.
Why is it followed then? Really simple: it's not the usual CM ROM. If only there was another launcher, people may not idolize this ROM. Kudos to the developers for developing it though, otherwise CM would be the (choppy) standard.
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[...]Those saying it's just trying o copy the iPhone are ignorant and should really just get their heads out of their asses.
Sure, it might not be for everyone but I would encourage people to try it first before they dismiss it. [...]
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I well tested it as I pushed forward the italian translation, but I always been perplexed about its app management and launcher in general. Yes, I prefere the archaic and - IMHO - efficient current one. And no, there is not so much other code I'd import in any other ROM. From my point of view it's just a (shining?) iPhone UI with FM radio. Kudos for them releasing the radio part. That's all.
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I'm not sure whenever I'd consider MIUI one step ahead the current UIs. I find no user friendly evolution, just reordered things. I mean, no intelligent way to launch an application (and no, gestures are NOT the way it will be as you have to remember the gesture), no "outstanding" graphics (I'm not impressed by them, not after 5 minutes handling it).
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Can you give some examples of an intelligent way to launch an application? Just curious.
I'm partial to formel. He keeps up with the latest and its a one shot you're done rom. No need to fiddle with the language packs. I was using enom before which was a very good rom. I get similar batt with formel and the performance is a little smoother. I'm using adw as I'm not fond of the iphone layout anyways. IMO this is a good start for those that want to scope out miui and see what its about. Its pretty much bug free and stable for day to day use which for me is important. I need my phone to work.
I was an Enom fan too, complete rom and very stable but...you get tired pretty soon!
I used to play with Rodriguez's MIUI because it was full of goodies but God knows why he disapeared all of a sudden
Now I am trying Moviestar HD which seems stable but the Theme app can't apply themes downloaded even renamed into mtz, I heard MIUI-AU is the best on Desire but its adaptation on N1 is unstable
The themes work on formel except for the sms skinning. Dont believe that one is figured out yet. The rodriguez rom is good but is 3 releases back now and it has a fair few bugs I turned up in just a few days of usage. Overall the goodies didnt equal out to a newer and quite a bit more tuned up version of miui. I have not tried moviestar yet. Frankly I"m pretty happy with formel. It flat works.
I figured that I can use a custom theme via File Manager but sms app doesn't change like on Formel.
I think a newer theme app is available because it says so when I use it but when I try to download the link is not working!
I hope in next versions of Formel and Moviestar they will use the new fixed one, dunno about MIUI-AU
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I know there are people who love sense/rosie, I used to be one of them. But the more I use my phone, the more I find myself just wanting it cut down a bit and more streamlined..
I have no need for facebook or twitter, htc mail widgets etc.
The only things I see value in are the dialer, pinch to zoom in the browser and the music controls on the lock screen..
I have found myself setting 'home' as the default on most of my ROM's and having everything go fast, but I can't help thinking it could be even better..
I am fine with 3 to 5 home screens, no need for leap..
Just a lightning fast, stable build with no bloat or social crap..
Am I alone in wanting this?
TJ
For all the Dev's, you are doing AWESOME work, I love playing with all the ROM's and sincerely appreciate your time and effort. I know the masses want rosie, but there are a large number of people who aren't the majority
Honestly, I really like the HTC Friendstream and/or Twitter widget, but I can do without them. One thing I would miss is the HTC camera, but I found out today that it's been ported to the Nexus One, so I don't see why we couldn't get the HTC Camera in a vanilla Hero ROM.
I've noticed (using Villain 5.0, aka the 2.1 Sprint Hero ROM) that if I'm listening to music and using google navigation, the music skips sometimes, mostly when the GPS app is calculating something. I figure getting rid of Sense might fix this by freeing up some RAM.
So, as long as we can get the HTC Camera into a vanilla ROM (and maybe that's already been done... anyone?), then yes, I would rather use a vanilla ROM.
With a vanilla ROM we should also be able to use voice dialing, right? Since we'd be using the google dialer instead of the HTC one?
Save Heros from sense.
I really don't like sense and hate the thought of having to return to it for a stable phone... the stock android experience is what I want on the my Hero.
I am a developer and do know Java well but I don't have much time to dive into Android although I have started. I have the sdk, eclipse, and the source synced and started looking at the code.
I know we are waiting for HTC to release updated kernel sources and to get our hands on stable drivers but I would like to get Gallery3D and Launcher 2 working
It's a shame that I have this tease... a 80% stable phone using aHero v0.6.1 but the phone still locks up and reboot randomly... this could have a lot to do with the kernel and drivers.
Gallery3D used to work in both landscape and Portrait on Android 2.0
Not sure if this is Google dropping support or bad drivers but I have had Google Earth running on this Hero too.
Launcher2 is actually faster then launcher but it seems to swap out of memory or something when the phone sleeps and takes a few seconds to wake up.
I will try and look at the code more but I'm hoping some very skilled Android Hero guru will save the Hero and get us up and running %100 in the next months.
i support the notion for a vanila rom. sense is nice, but truthfully, i am a fan of the stock android gui. for some, its clunky. for me, i can work around it. i feel the phone would be more of a true enthusiast's phone with the stock OS, and sense tries to well..(no pun intended) make sense for people new to having a phone.
HTC is doing a great job making android phones appealing, but the way android OS looked prior to sense was what appealed me to it in the first place...something unique, one that is sort of minimalistic yet packs a lot of options for an end-user. I find HTC's widgets beautiful but slow. And in a phone, i'd rather have zip to make an emergency phone call rather than a cool UI soaking up the resources to display the weather. thats not to say i don't like cute little things like that, though. just have the speed first, optimize and incorporate later. 1.5 did well, and 2.1 really makes android very nice, keeping its simplicity and making subtle yet elegant additions.
2.1 stock rom based from these leaks pls =3
It's good to see i'm not alone..
I agree that once the new kernel comes out I think it will be much easier to get a fully functional stock 2.1 happening..
I have used raidroid 2.1 and I was VERY impressed with the speed, but all that makes me think is how it could be even faster!
I just like the idea of a business like experience.. No bull****, just do what you are built to do.
I'm pretty keen to see a fast stock rom as well. I already use the stock keyboard because of its speed and I was using Launcher2 for a while, but it was too buggy.
But really, more then anything I want a fast, stable build to run with.
The only thing I think it would really miss is the music player controls on the lock screen, but I think they could do with some work.... not fast enough at the moment, the same goes with unlocking to answer a phone call, it all seems to take too long.
agree
aHero 0.61 is good, but still a bit buggy
im not a fan of the sense bloatware approach
I'm currently working on a rom that pretty much fits these requirements.
CyanogenMod based (this may change due to video playback issues), JIT enabled, and after an initial release, I may try and integrate drivers from the CDMA 2.1 roms.
Oh, and it won't have Sense (inefficient and ineffective), Launcher2, Live Wallpapers or any of the rest of that superfluous crap.
I would love to see a stable build of a vanilla rom...everytime one is released i flash right away but theres always a major bug that push me to sense roms again.
I even like the android camera,mostly in poor light conditions.
The music control in lockscreen is nice but not nice enough to make it a setback...
All the social widgets(twitter,facebook,mail,buzz,etc.) can be found in market for free...many of them better then HTC ones.
Genie widgets can do weather and news(I use them in sense roms)
If ppl dont like android calendar widget,"smooth calendar" is similar to HTC calendar(to me is much better) and free.
And thats what makes vanilla rom so good,i only install this apk if i want to or need it...my phone,my rules.
yeah i would love one!
I also hate seeing SocialNetworkReciever firing up all the time in logcat when my phone is asleep when I have no accounts for fb, twitter and flickr..
*SocialNetworkReciever is being called every 5 mins! Even after removing peep!
Just like any OS on whatever device. It should be basic and fast.
+1 for Vanilla.
I very much prefer the vanilla Android experience over Sense. For me Sense adds nothing but bugs and bloat and also a few Android features I like are missing in HTC Android.
I would like one as well. Currently I am just stripping everything from someone's custom rom, perhaps I should try the Kitchen that's available to make my own 2.1, based on AOSP.
Yep, i'm on board. A 2.1 Vanilla ROM, possibly with Multi-Touch in the Browser, Touch Focus in the Camera and the HTC dialler would be perfect.
I loved the aychteesee rom for this reason. at the time it was the fastest around for the hero. shame it never got updated, there were one or two bugs that pushed me back to sense.
It makes sense to install an os with very few features on, as we have the Market! I really don't find any htc widget/app that performs better than a Market place counterpart. Just look at Camera Zoom FX.
Best Vanilla Rom
Hi all,
I've tried lots of ROMs and I must say that Kagudroid 1.2.2 is by far the best. It is vanilla Android and it is faster, more stable, less buggy than any other ROM. The only drawback was that the camera was unstable, but now there is a fix for that in the post on Htcpedia.com (http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1979)
Try it, it's the difference you're looking for!
I really want a stock fast vanilla rom.. Going to try this kagudroid.. Let's se how it is
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I know there are people who love sense/rosie, I used to be one of them. But the more I use my phone, the more I find myself just wanting it cut down a bit and more streamlined..
I have no need for facebook or twitter, htc mail widgets etc.
The only things I see value in are the dialer, pinch to zoom in the browser and the music controls on the lock screen..
I have found myself setting 'home' as the default on most of my ROM's and having everything go fast, but I can't help thinking it could be even better..
I am fine with 3 to 5 home screens, no need for leap..
Just a lightning fast, stable build with no bloat or social crap..
Am I alone in wanting this?
TJ
For all the Dev's, you are doing AWESOME work, I love playing with all the ROM's and sincerely appreciate your time and effort. I know the masses want rosie, but there are a large number of people who aren't the majority
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I don't think this is the right part of the hero threads for your Christmas wish list, mayee the Q&A section. Try picking a Rom that's already close to what you require and giving feedback
Would love one, too!
<3 Google / Android 4 Life ;-)
I've just checked out a couple of vids on Youtube of the MIUI rom on the Mytouch 4G. It has some nice looking animations, but I don't otherwise get why an Android user would want this rom. It looks like an iPhone - the system takes a big steaming dump of apps all over your home screens, and no launcher. It seems like a step backwards to me.
Can someone who uses this rom please convince me otherwise? What does it have that I can't get elsewhere?
I used to think the same, but when I gave it a bash it was VERY smooth! And with Launcher Pro on it, near perfect.
But there are so many more settings you can fiddle with on CM, I always go back to the best.
Flashed a CM7 nightly this morning,.... AMAAAAZING!
So you CAN install a launcher on it? I got the impression that you couldn't. Hmmm, I might give it a try when I have some time. What's battery life like - one video (admittedly for the MT4G) said it was pretty crap. That same video also said that RAM usage was considerably lower than Sense, which interests me.
Yeah man, standard MIUI launcher is junk IMO, no app drawer? Huh? Definitely get your launcher of choice on there straight away.
From what I remember (since November ish) battery life was ok, RAM was vgood. Yeah give it a bash,... the guy who has done the port has updated quite a few times since I tried it.
I love the standard launcher after 2 years of seeing either stock android launcher or ones similar to it , it is a nice change of pace
I didn't like miui at first but it grew on me. I was constantly trying to find the app launcher it runs fast and you can customize the heck out of it!
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I was really impressed with it, actually. Very lightweight on the system.
If you don't like the lack of drawer (I hate it...thinking a hybrid with an app drawer would be perfection) you can get stuff tucked away in folders, or use launcher pro.
It just looks and feels so fresh and clean...but it's just not what I personally love about Android. A great option that's totally different.
It's also a great UI for iphone converters...
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I've just checked out a couple of vids on Youtube of the MIUI rom on the Mytouch 4G. It has some nice looking animations, but I don't otherwise get why an Android user would want this rom. It looks like an iPhone - the system takes a big steaming dump of apps all over your home screens, and no launcher. It seems like a step backwards to me.
Can someone who uses this rom please convince me otherwise? What does it have that I can't get elsewhere?
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Thats exactly it, MIUI is just like an I phone without restrictions! You can add, take away and do anything You want with it maintaining its beauty and speed! Ive tryed every rom, after playing w/ rom's UI for a few minutes I went bak to MIUI. Theres nothing like it try MIUI and you'll never go bak.
MIUI = ew
That's just me though, I'm a CM fanboii
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MIUI = ew
That's just me though, I'm a CM fanboii
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I'm inclined to agree with you. I gave it a try, but those iPhone-esque menus had me running for the hills - it just seemed wrong!
In the last couple of days I've been through the stock Sense rom (too heavy on the hardware), MIUI (just no), Enomther's Official (battery life poor) and CM 6.1.1 (battery life poor). I'm currently draining the battery so I can charge properly and wipe batt stats on CM - hopefully that will help. But if not then I'm going to have to roll back to the stock rom, which is a real shame because all the others run so quick even at 800mhz...
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I've just checked out a couple of vids on Youtube of the MIUI rom on the Mytouch 4G. It has some nice looking animations, but I don't otherwise get why an Android user would want this rom. It looks like an iPhone - the system takes a big steaming dump of apps all over your home screens, and no launcher. It seems like a step backwards to me.
Can someone who uses this rom please convince me otherwise? What does it have that I can't get elsewhere?
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Thats exactly it, MIUI is just like an I phone without restrictions! You can add, take away and do anything You want with it maintaining its beauty and speed! Ive tryed every rom, after playing w/ rom's UI for a few minutes I went bak to MIUI. Theres nothing like it try MIUI and you'll never go bak.
Try It!
i have been running CyanM since went to Android with tthe N1 and I can say its making me think! I like the polish. The initial setup was a little slower because of the lack of app draw and having to tuck things away. After that I can say I am really digging the Rom
I really like the notification put-down with the toggles at the bottom. Looks so good and super functional.
Edit: but I use virtuous as my daily.
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I've finally settled on a ROM - Sparksmod Extra HotSauce. Basically CMod with loads of pretty icons and animations. I love it so much, it's satisfied both the need for speed/lightweight on RAM, and having the eye candy to show off.
Install a decent laucher like ADW EX or LauncherPro (which now has transition animations too), and it blows anything else away. I can't recommend it highly enough. My iPhone-toting friends are jealous as well.
At first I didn't like it... Then it grew on me.... Then I didn't like it again (had too many apps on homescreen)... Now I like it again..... I like just installed Touchwiz launcher (I know.. Wut? ) and love it again IMO Touchwiz launcher is like MIUI's with an app drawer xD (I prefer though )
my question is : why not
the easy theme-ing + change icons / pull down widget = win
if u dont like the iphone-ish look, put ADW EX on top of it
i do like how i can organize stuff with the folders
that + the ease of uninstalling apps when i dont like them,
it sucks having to wait to go through setting and wait 30 secs to generate the whole list.
oh the smoothness too
Seriously... why not?? I use miui for a few reasons..
1. Bad ass lock screen.. by far the best. IMHO (Music control, custom wallpaper, quick launch phone and messaging app) yeah you COULD just use widget locker.. but that slows phone down and drains battery life.. not as sick as default miui I think.
2. Themes.. the themes available look amazing, completely customize all your icons, better than you can get with adw, lp or any made for cyanogenmod.. and you can mix and match what themes parts you want applied.
3. Notification bar.. toggles on the pulldown are great.. ya you can do basically the same with cyanogenmod, but not as polished IMO..
4. battery life isn't an issue for me.. or ram.. basically the same as cyanogen 6.1.1... haven't tried cm7. So no input there.
5. Updated every Friday. which is nice..
Yeah its iphone-ish since all the icons are uniformed.. and menus, I don't spend all my time changing settings so menus don't bother me.. easier to navigate then stock android IMO but with icons I actually like that about it.. I use adw launcher ex. So I have a launcher.. I don't use the stock launcher with miui. Personally I don't care for it.. i hate apps on my homescreen... IMO they belong in the launcher.. widgets belong on the homescreen. But that's just me.. to each there own. I switch between cyanogen mod 6.1.1 and miui... I just nand backup each so I can switch between both whenever I feel the need. there both esentially set up the exact same. Same apps and launchers.. I'm been on cyanogen mod since I had a mytouch 18 months ago till miui was ported.. it mixes things up, I don't think it takes away from android.. it gives you the best of both worlds in my opinion..
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I have to say, that Im loving the Miui. Sure, it comes with no app drawer and it looks too close to an iphone, but one thing I give credit to apple, is the glossy and high resolution look to their icons and layouts.
I use Launcher pro and it makes me a happy Android fan. I get to load new themes with the least amount of effort whatsoever. Its amazing how quickly you can change the look of your phone.
The lockscreen is the best ive seen. I dont experience lags for a rom that is quite stylish and has so many features. The customization on this rom is out of this world. There's a setting for anything Ive wanted to change (minus changing the color of the notification bar).
So, to summerize: It runs fast, it looks really good with easy theme changing ability and it lets you customize the heck out of it.
The battery life is decent. I havent noticed a major difference between any of the roms ive tried when it comes to that. Btw, I have been on CM 6.1.1 and supervillianz and the default sense. This is the only rom that made me NOT change and try other roms. Im quite happy with what I have. Why look elsewhere
All of us know that Android development on our HD2s' has reached a very great time and now we are running the roms and android versions that very few new devices experience them officially.
The reason i am creating this thread is this that...after using CM7 roms for while (nearly 5 month) yesterday i finally switched to dungphp sense 3.0 rom (v1.7) and at the first sight i see my HTC HT2 (the evergreen Phone) alive with colors. because as much as we know the bigest annoying thing about CM7 roms is the pale color look and dark mode that they have...
but sense style and more colorful shapes which reminds us of a original HTC phones, really has increased my interest to HD2 once more time
but besides all this, the sense roms ar very slow and as far as as all of us know...glitches and some other bugs are really annoying.
and this happens where, that all CM7 roms now are really bug free and suer fast on our HD2, which makes the LEo more than a Native android device!!! (as my own experience when my friend see my HD2 running Android (CM7) and comparing that with their own devices like Desire,Desire HD or Desire S...my device is as fasst as them and sometimes more interesting due to CM7 special features) but with CM7 my device screen is like black and white infront of them, and it reaally annoys you!
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so after saying this, i want to ask a questions from you and esp. the greatest HD2 developers: Whats the best way for HD2 android development in this (as i think) critical time? i mean developing CM7 roms, which are really 99% bug free and super fast to a more colorfull and better screen performance or developing Sense 3.0 roms to make them faster and trying to see no glitches?
and WP7? i think it has no chances against android...just great 720p playing!
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i think this thread will really help us, by knoing the idea of all HD2 Android users. so please enter here and leave your comments to make our HD2 ever better.
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Well i don't really get your problem. Why don't you just use a theme for cm7. Think there are a lot out there in the xda forums and i'm pretty sure there are some colourful under them. Or just try a miui build. They are fast and stable like cm and can be skinned and customized like no other ROM and it's really easy...
And there always will be both. The cm roms and the sense ROMs. I think there are more than enough devs for our hd2 so that they don't have to concentrate all on improving one kind of ROM. Some of us also like the clean and not so colourful stuff.
Sure,but MIUI roms are somehow just beautifull and not useful...there more different from the way we knew android. I have tried them but after just few days dissapointed and changed to CM7 and now sense 3.0...
Yes themes for CM7 may be a good choice but,i meant the total base of CM7 roms are dead colors.
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arminvm said:
Sure,but MIUI roms are somehow just beautifull and not useful...there more different from the way we knew android. I have tried them but after just few days dissapointed and changed to CM7 and now sense 3.0...
Yes themes for CM7 may be a good choice but,i meant the total base of CM7 roms are dead colors.
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I have to agree. I never have seen the interest in MIUI like other people do. It's just uninteresting for some reason.
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I have to agree. I never have seen the interest in MIUI like other people do. It's just uninteresting for some reason.
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thank you...it's the reality i think,as you said they don't show native android,just some copying from iphone...
arminvm said:
thank you...it's the reality i think,as you said they don't show native android,just some copying from iphone...
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One thing I will say since I've tried MIUI before, is the great many themes for it. There are what seems like an endless number of all different kinds of themes for MIUI. But I still think my dislike for MIUI stems from the lack of elegance it has. An example of this, even though it can be replaced, of course, is the stock MIUI analog clock. It just looks pitiful to me. But it's indicative of the whole system. There just doesn't seem to be any elegance or refinement to it.
i have to disagree. i also don't like the miui launcher and use go launcher with it, but it's much more functional than cm7 or something else. for example the dockbar with all the quicklinks on the second page, flashlight when pressing home button while the phone is locked, the messaging app, theme program. you can do much more with a rom that has the miui base and if you don't like the look of the iphone just install another launcher than you have your elegance back.
first i thought the same about miui but after using it for a while there is no alternative for me in terms of functionality and customizability.
and the most important thing, it's fast and only has 2-5mAh in standby.
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i have to disagree. i also don't like the miui launcher and use go launcher with it, but it's much more functional than cm7 or something else. for example the dockbar with all the quicklinks on the second page, flashlight when pressing home button while the phone is locked, the messaging app, theme program. you can do much more with a rom that has the miui base and if you don't like the look of the iphone just install another launcher than you have your elegance back.
first i thought the same about miui but after using it for a while there is no alternative for me in terms of functionality and customizability.
and the most important thing, it's fast and only has 2-5mAh in standby.
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Hmmm...that flashlight shortcut is intriguing. I'll have another go at it.
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One thing I will say since I've tried MIUI before, is the great many themes for it. There are what seems like an endless number of all different kinds of themes for MIUI. But I still think my dislike for MIUI stems from the lack of elegance it has. An example of this, even though it can be replaced, of course, is the stock MIUI analog clock. It just looks pitiful to me. But it's indicative of the whole system. There just doesn't seem to be any elegance or refinement to it.
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sure it is true...when we install a MIUI rom, are HD2 seems just beautifull with that so much of themes but as you said the very first features we benefit in our CM7 or Sense roms are lost in this kind of roms...
even the MIUI launcher is not so customizable, as an example you can not make a shortcut for your word,pdf or... files!...
anyway i don't think MIUI would be the future for our HD2s
rauschkugl said:
i have to disagree. i also don't like the miui launcher and use go launcher with it, but it's much more functional than cm7 or something else. for example the dockbar with all the quicklinks on the second page, flashlight when pressing home button while the phone is locked, the messaging app, theme program. you can do much more with a rom that has the miui base and if you don't like the look of the iphone just install another launcher than you have your elegance back.
first i thought the same about miui but after using it for a while there is no alternative for me in terms of functionality and customizability.
and the most important thing, it's fast and only has 2-5mAh in standby.
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you mean tht these small feature are really superior to that of CM7 roms?! like special features that we have in CM settings? idon't think so even the MIUI rom is comperable in the features to sense roms but they are beautifull and like CM7s' roms fast...no doubt in this.
but would you tell me the features that make MIUI roms very special? which makes them paying more attention than CM7 or sense roms?
rauschkugl said:
i have to disagree. i also don't like the miui launcher and use go launcher with it, but it's much more functional than cm7 or something else. for example the dockbar with all the quicklinks on the second page, flashlight when pressing home button while the phone is locked, the messaging app, theme program. you can do much more with a rom that has the miui base and if you don't like the look of the iphone just install another launcher than you have your elegance back.
first i thought the same about miui but after using it for a while there is no alternative for me in terms of functionality and customizability.
and the most important thing, it's fast and only has 2-5mAh in standby.
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I'm going to have to eat my words. I downloaded an SD build of MIUI, the 3dak version, and am seeing elegant operation. It is actually compelling me to like it. The flashlight shortcut is brilliant! It is exactly what a flashlight should be; right there easily accessible without fumbling in the darkness to find it.
Sorry to keep the offtopic going but regarding MIUI I have only one oppinion.
It's great, it looks ok ( maybe a little to playful for me ) but the gradient banding is a great turn off for me. When they will do a dithered version specially for hd2 or ( so help us God ) they fix the banding issue, I will give a second thought to MIUI.
Oh. And facebook calendar sync.
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you mean tht these small feature are really superior to that of CM7 roms?! like special features that we have in CM settings? idon't think so even the MIUI rom is comperable in the features to sense roms but they are beautifull and like CM7s' roms fast...no doubt in this.
but would you tell me the features that make MIUI roms very special? which makes them paying more attention than CM7 or sense roms?
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What Feature do you have in cm7 Settings that miui doesn't have? Please tell me. I only know overclocking and therefore i was using setcpu even on cm ROMs. There is not one feature i'm missing from cm on miui. And yes these small things like quick access to flashlight from the lockscreen make a ROM special for me because it's just useful.
I didn't say miui is the future for our hd2, i said that there's no reason for the devs concentrating on a single type of ROM cause so much people are working on hd2 android.
Miui would just be the answer of the things you were complaining about.
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Sorry to keep the offtopic going but regarding MIUI I have only one oppinion.
It's great, it looks ok ( maybe a little to playful for me ) but the gradient banding is a great turn off for me. When they will do a dithered version specially for hd2 or ( so help us God ) they fix the banding issue, I will give a second thought to MIUI.
Oh. And facebook calendar sync.
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Can you explain what banding issue you mean? I never heard of that or experienced any problems i didn't have on other builds.
Ok, some might say this is picky.
Gradient banding is when the screen displays more colors than the screen actually supports at that time.
More details here: http://origin.arstechnica.com/news.media/Colour_banding_example01.png
And creates that stepping effect that really looks terrible. Yes, it has no effect on stability, functionality or anything else. It's just a visual artifact that for me makes it quite clear that it's just a port.
The best way to see the banding is to enter the dialer in MIUI . Give it a try and report back if you see smooth gradients. I would be surprised.
thanks. ok your right. never really noticed it. the ring of the sense 3 lockscreen for example has also gradients but there is no banding. i also can see it in the stock launcher but because i don't use it i don't care.
really never noticed that.
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What Feature do you have in cm7 Settings that miui doesn't have? Please tell me. I only know overclocking and therefore i was using setcpu even on cm ROMs. There is not one feature i'm missing from cm on miui. And yes these small things like quick access to flashlight from the lockscreen make a ROM special for me because it's just useful.
I didn't say miui is the future for our hd2, i said that there's no reason for the devs concentrating on a single type of ROM cause so much people are working on hd2 android.
Miui would just be the answer of the things you were complaining about.
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so,we are not making a war man...be calm please , we are just discussing...
so about the features...e.g: LOckscreen gestures (which makes mopre than that shortcut for flashlight in MIUI,because you can acces just everything by adding a gesture in your lock screen not just flashlight ;-) ), other features like tablet tweaks, so many features for light sensor and display that MIUI does not have! or many others ;-)
but i am not saying MIUI is bad!! beceuse the first time i my self installed it, i really enjoyed alot ,esp. from the way it looks and make our HD2s' alive and very colorful and goodlooking with so lots of theme stuff.
but the most annoying things are this that its taking its origin from the IOS and not android, we love android,and we all believe that its more powefull than IOS because its open source. even if we use a different launcher still the setting is just the way i said...any way,
i think if we could have MIUI graphics on CM7 we have all that we need.
anyone could make this possible?
This thread is ridiculous...
"You know what I like about Sense 3 ? It has very beautiful color !!!
You know what I like about CM7 ? It so fast and useful !!!"
You know what I like about MIUI ? It look so pretty and feels like an iPhone !!!"
Please, just be grateful for the versatility of our devices and to the devs still working on it, although it's getting old.
The rest is just personal tastes and doesn't deserve to be discussed...or polled...
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so,we are not making a war man...be calm please , we are just discussing...
so about the features...e.g: LOckscreen gestures (which makes mopre than that shortcut for flashlight in MIUI,because you can acces just everything by adding a gesture in your lock screen not just flashlight ;-) ), other features like tablet tweaks, so many features for light sensor and display that MIUI does not have! or many others ;-)
but i am not saying MIUI is bad!! beceuse the first time i my self installed it, i really enjoyed alot ,esp. from the way it looks and make our HD2s' alive and very colorful and goodlooking with so lots of theme stuff.
but the most annoying things are this that its taking its origin from the IOS and not android, we love android,and we all believe that its more powefull than IOS because its open source. even if we use a different launcher still the setting is just the way i said...any way,
i think if we could have MIUI graphics on CM7 we have all that we need.
anyone could make this possible?
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if you use this features it's ok but i never needed them. tablet tweaks are for tablets and i personally don't like my statusbar on the bottom. but this is all personal liking. i also never needed additional display or light sensor settings. sure it's good to have it implemented but i never missed it on other roms. and most of this are things that can also be done by a third party app. the only thing i would like to have from cm are the toggle additions where you can automatically switch off 3g when your connected to wifi and something like that. these are really useful but most other things are not really needed for a phone. at least i don't need them.
miui just looks like ios. it's still open source and who cares how the settings look when you installed another launcher? i go to settings once per month or less. and i think that they aren't bad on miui. you can find what your searching for very fast.
but as said this is all personal taste and there are enough developers to make roms for the tastes of every people, so there's no need to concentrate on developing one kind of rom.
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if you use this features it's ok but i never needed them. tablet tweaks are for tablets and i personally don't like my statusbar on the bottom. but this is all personal liking. i also never needed additional display or light sensor settings. sure it's good to have it implemented but i never missed it on other roms. and most of this are things that can also be done by a third party app. the only thing i would like to have from cm are the toggle additions where you can automatically switch off 3g when your connected to wifi and something like that. these are really useful but most other things are not really needed for a phone. at least i don't need them.
miui just looks like ios. it's still open source and who cares how the settings look when you installed another launcher? i go to settings once per month or less. and i think that they aren't bad on miui. you can find what your searching for very fast.
but as said this is all personal taste and there are enough developers to make roms for the tastes of every people, so there's no need to concentrate on developing one kind of rom.
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Yes i do agree about not cancentrating on one kind...
But the features,i think are really useful,and lots of people are using them,i myself use lots of them daily.
By the way about being this discussion personal...,yes sure it is.
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So I have this problem, where I cannot for the life of me stick to a stinkin ROM type. AOSP or Sense. And since I am a fan of Sense 1.0 and until just recently there has been no good gingerbread roms using it ive had to try almost all the 2.1/3.0 ROMS. None which I like. Our phone is just too slow to handle it well (IMO).
So, does anyone else have this indecisive behavior? If you do what do you find yourself on most of the time? Sense, or AOSP?
AOSP / CM7.
I found that all my indecisiveness was cured with themeing my phone.
Used Launcher Pro instead of the cruddy default launcher that CM7 uses, I used android kitchen (http://uot.dakra.lt/kitchen/) to theme my status bar, drop down and icons in the status bar- and I used a couple more themeing widgets and apps found from people at http://mycolorscreen.com/category/android/
Also I changed the dock background to a better looking one and I moved around the icons in Launcher Pro so that it'd be simpler to click on them quickly (like the phone icon).
I think the key is to find a stable yet up-to-date ROM, then mod the crap outta it until you really love it, then don't update it unless you really want to (like a new version of android comes out). I'm not planning on upgrading my CM7 unless android has a new release, which may be a few months.
POQbum said:
AOSP / CM7.
I found that all my indecisiveness was cured with themeing my phone.
Used Launcher Pro instead of the cruddy default launcher that CM7 uses, I used android kitchen (http://uot.dakra.lt/kitchen/) to theme my status bar, drop down and icons in the status bar- and I used a couple more themeing widgets and apps found from people at http://mycolorscreen.com/category/android/
Also I changed the dock background to a better looking one and I moved around the icons in Launcher Pro so that it'd be simpler to click on them quickly (like the phone icon).
I think the key is to find a stable yet up-to-date ROM, then mod the crap outta it until you really love it, then don't update it unless you really want to (like a new version of android comes out). I'm not planning on upgrading my CM7 unless android has a new release, which may be a few months.
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Yeah but the problem I find with AOSP is that it indeed feels so half baked to me. Like there is no K9 dialing? WTH. (It's coming, some guy built it and is going to submit it to review, but still, it hasnt had this???) The browser is sooo much slower graphically. Flash is useless.
But it's so clean. And fast. never freezes.
And themes, eh they never feel complete either. Just my opinion. Thanks for sharing yours!
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Yeah but the problem I find with AOSP is that it indeed feels so half baked to me. Like there is no K9 dialing? WTH. (It's coming, some guy built it and is going to submit it to review, but still, it hasnt had this???) The browser is sooo much slower graphically. Flash is useless.
But it's so clean. And fast. never freezes.
And themes, eh they never feel complete either. Just my opinion. Thanks for sharing yours!
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ah yeah I think you're missing some pieces. If you want T9 dialing then there are "dialer" apps out there. Go Dialer I think was one of the better ones, but I still prefer stock (no T9 smart dialing but I'm ok with it)
You don't have to use prepackaged themes, really you can theme your phone into anything you're looking for. There are apps, widgets and modifications to do it, if you need any hints on which apps and places to go I can let you know. I don't even know what browser comes with CM7, I always uninstall. Dolphin Mini Browser has always been my favorite.
I think you are looking at only what is presented with the ROM, you can really exchange/modify most things in any rooted ROM pretty easily.
and I don't mean to try and sell you on a particular ROM, I just want to make sure you know what's possible and what's out there
OP, you must be a REAL flash-o-holic. I just tried CM7.1... again... on my Tbolt and I can't STAND it. CM doesn't seem any faster on my dInc or my Tbolt than the Sense 1.0 ROM I had on the dInc or the Sense 3.0 3D ROM on my Tbolt. In fact, it shows more lag on both. It's just not a finished product in my opinion. To relate it to a car...
A good Sense ROM is like the whole package. Everything has been thought out and the right things added and the whole package pretty nicely tied together and polished.
AOSP is kinda like GM just sold you the rolling chassis. Now you gotta put some kind of body on it, something to steer it with, lights, seats, wheels better than the stamped steel crap they rolled off the truck on... It's like a hobby kit of an OS. If someone offered a decent package of widgets for AOSP I might give it more than a half a day on my phone. I just don't have any desire to spend hours of time and money trying to slowly build an AOSP ROM into something that begins to do what I want. If AOSP was my only choice, I'd be back on BlackBerry.
I've been on MIUI as a daily for probably 6 months now, the themeing possibilities with this ROM honestly have gotten rid of any need to crackflash for me. BTW OP, it has T9 stock and a bunch of other great things.
I also tried most of the Sense 3.0 ROMs and couldn't find one that I liked enough to stay for more than about a week (Nils BS3.0 for the record) and most only last a few hours. Just can't beat the smoothness and possibilities that come with MIUI IMO.
i have been using skyraider 4.3 the most, swapped it out recently for CM7 until today i went back, and was super glad i did.
Key features for me are:
-CM7 style dual slider lockscreen
(this is a must because i like to be able to go directly to the dialer or messages, and have instant access to switch the phone to vibrate/ring from the lockscreen)
-stock gingerbread keyboard (not a fan of the sense one)
-quick and stable
-sense dialer
Edit: There is also a skyraider 5.0 in the works, using the new OTA gingerbread framework, though not ETA for that yet
My experience has been that Sense 1.0 ROMs are the most stable and smooth. I liked SkyRaider the best for performance and customization, but now that GB is official it's hard to stay on Froyo. SR 5 is coming, but probably not for a while.
My daily right now is Insensitive-Minimalist 2.1. It has the Sense framework, most of the better Sense Apps, but everything else removed. It's fast and stable, IMHO. It lacks the customizable features in CM, but I can live without those.
I keep a backup of CM7 on my phone for when I want to play emulators with my wii controller, otherwise I hop around on various Sense roms. Really liking the Bliss port that's going on right now.
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OP, you must be a REAL flash-o-holic. I just tried CM7.1... again... on my Tbolt and I can't STAND it. CM doesn't seem any faster on my dInc or my Tbolt than the Sense 1.0 ROM I had on the dInc or the Sense 3.0 3D ROM on my Tbolt. In fact, it shows more lag on both. It's just not a finished product in my opinion. To relate it to a car...
A good Sense ROM is like the whole package. Everything has been thought out and the right things added and the whole package pretty nicely tied together and polished.
AOSP is kinda like GM just sold you the rolling chassis. Now you gotta put some kind of body on it, something to steer it with, lights, seats, wheels better than the stamped steel crap they rolled off the truck on... It's like a hobby kit of an OS. If someone offered a decent package of widgets for AOSP I might give it more than a half a day on my phone. I just don't have any desire to spend hours of time and money trying to slowly build an AOSP ROM into something that begins to do what I want. If AOSP was my only choice, I'd be back on BlackBerry.
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Ah you share my thoughts exactly. Cyanogenmod and the team do a great job of what they do but AOSP to me is like what you said, a chassis on wheels. My favorite ROMs used to be virtuous and skyraider, but I can't go back to froyo now that in on the gingerbread train.
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I dont think HTC has decided what to do with sense after seeing ics , most of the funcionality they offer wasnt present on any android version until gingerbread and now ics includes most of those, do you think they're going to do something similar to windows phone and use almost stock android but with their apps and services like weather, htc sense account etc?
I personally despise sense and hope HTC starts to give us little android virgins, but I am sure for marketing purposes they will keep cramming there software on there products so they have some claim to originality.
Chad_Petree said:
I dont think HTC has decided what to do with sense after seeing ics , most of the funcionality they offer wasnt present on any android version until gingerbread and now ics includes most of those, do you think they're going to do something similar to windows phone and use almost stock android but with their apps and services like weather, htc sense account etc?
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We can but live in hope, and maybe they will make the apps user removable too
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We can but live in hope, and maybe they will make the apps user removable too
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ICS has a feature that all apps can be disabled (equivalent to 'freezing' in titanium backup - not removed but can't run)
SupaAvenger79 said:
I personally despise sense and hope HTC starts to give us little android virgins, but I am sure for marketing purposes they will keep cramming there software on there products so they have some claim to originality.
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If you root you can have anything you like - try CM7 (and when released, CM9 with ICS).
Chad_Petree said:
I dont think HTC has decided what to do with sense after seeing ics , most of the funcionality they offer wasnt present on any android version until gingerbread and now ics includes most of those, do you think they're going to do something similar to windows phone and use almost stock android but with their apps and services like weather, htc sense account etc?
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What kind of functionality did sense add? It was very pretty and the widgets were very good (calendar, for example) - but did it add any extra features?
I actually like Sense. Of all "major frameworks" like TouchWize and Blur and what not, Sense comes on TOP (my opinion only).
Now, can we live without sense? Perfectly.
Will HTC abandon Sense in ICS? Doubt it.
P.S. i run a rom with Sense daily... so.. biased
I hope so. I hate sense. I only like the widgets and the social network integration on the contacts app. After getting rid of sense my phone became faster and battery lasts longer.
But now, the stock launcher and features of ICS is better than sense. Even the widgets looks better now.
But i doubt they will remove sense 100%. I just wish that they won't be changing the stock ICS UI that much.
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I hope so. I hate sense. I only like the widgets and the social network integration on the contacts app. After getting rid of sense my phone became faster and battery lasts longer.
But now, the stock launcher and features of ICS is better than sense. Even the widgets looks better now.
But i doubt they will remove sense 100%. I just wish that they won't be changing the stock ICS UI that much.
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This is my point! Pick Sense, remove social integration, custom widgets, dialer, sms app, and all the other minor things, and yout get AOSP. And the you miss those things.
I agree, Sense IS HEAVY. But for what it does, it's the best. How many apps would one have to install on AOSP to get the full sense functionality? And how slower would that device be with that amount of apps interchaining themselves?
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in short. ditch sense for the ICS UI
HTC will always add there own interpretation on what they think Ice Cream Sandwich will look like, and that is the way it is. But what I do hope is that they build on top of what Google has done instead of stripping everything out.
For example, mail apps, people apps are not stock and they should try to keep it true to what Google intended and maybe use the API that are exposed by Google to add there on stuff on top.
Also they should try to build a launcher that is not so heavy integrated to how the whole OS works, instead decouple it away so if there are updates needed to the OS it can fit nicely on top.
So no I don't think Sense will fade away, but I do hope the way they implement it is as close to stock as possible, just adding features on top of it.
i don't see the point in complaining about this since pretty much all of us here on this forum have the ability to root and just install vanilla ROM, or whatever you want
for the average user (NOT US!) HTC don't seem to do a pretty decent job with Sense, since developers here can prepare some very highly optimised versions. What i would prefer is for HTC to look at the ROMs present over here and take note.
I run RCMix HD sense 3.5 daily without any problems at all and while comparing it to my brother's iPhone 4, 9 times outta 10 this ROM is as smooth as or even smoother, and lets be fair as far as UI customisations go, HTC are alot further ahead than everyone else, but if they realise the potential in their own skin as the developers have shown, they could take a really hard fight to Apple as far as usability goes (hopefully with less lawsuits than samsung have).
HTC is not gonna remove sense 100%, as they mentioned before they gonna take it to next level sense 4.
So get ready
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Id tend to agree,the divide looks split with sense,personally i like sense. I tried cyn but reverted back,its different coming from say galaxy s to sense,you wont like it as much its your starting point dependant. Anyway yeah htc will continue. Nice
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HTC do something different with Sense and it's one of the reasons I (and others I know) bought an Android phone over another platform. The Sense UI seems to be much better than Touchwiz etc. (tried on Galaxy SII and was not a fan) - phones are a very personal choice at the end of the day and with Android we are a bit spoilt for choice between manufacturers.
Whatever HTC do now that Ice Cream Sandwich is inbound I look forward to their progress as they seem to be my preferred manufacturer right now, if I don't like what they come up with then I can always opt for the Galaxy Nexus or (judging by XDA currently) end up rooting and put stock a ICS ROM on there anyways.
I'm using sense and I must say I like it, when I saw the ics video launch it looked really similar to sense.
I really want to see what HTC is going to do and I hope it won't take too long...
Mymy, i love Sense, i have a Sense ROM in my phone everyday! I always thought that stock Android is ugly, but after i've seen ICS, i am ready to switch to ICS without regrets !
i concur with the observations of everybody one on this thread, sense is some times heavy , most times resource hungry but the most important aspect of it is the packaging, i tried every rom available here on XDA and found when i was on CM i always had to download additional stuff say for my calender's, social networking,word processing (apps to open .doc's and other stuff) and crucial of them camera !!! i am sure many will agree MIUI cam is heck of a lot better then what CM has !. But when i'm back on sense roms (RCmix,ARhd or lee) i dont need get these extra stuff.
The way is see it,if we are going to build some thing to have integration of various different aspects of using your phone with third party applications you are bound to have a heck up here or there but then its quite hard to see those kinda of heck ups happening on any these sense roms even on the beta one's ! so i guess coming from a sony branded x10 with there stupid philosophy and launcher , i believe integration and stability are the key factors of sense, the only other rom that i found such level of integration sans few heck ups are the MIUI roms but then there always the battery drain issue on them.
So as for ICS i believe HTC should try to carry the kind of integration they have sans the resource hunger nature of sense launcher , take some notes from other oem launchers like touchwiz where the complete os experience is not themed.
Just my observations
Actually i like sense but stock ICS looks promising to me. Would love to see a stock ICS with some sense widgets tho
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i concur with the observations of everybody one on this thread, sense is some times heavy , most times resource hungry but the most important aspect of it is the packaging, i tried every rom available here on XDA and found when i was on CM i always had to download additional stuff say for my calender's, social networking,word processing (apps to open .doc's and other stuff) and crucial of them camera !!! i am sure many will agree MIUI cam is heck of a lot better then what CM has !. But when i'm back on sense roms (RCmix,ARhd or lee) i dont need get these extra stuff.
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Exactly. I love how light and smooth CM feels but its just a whole lot more easier and convenient to have everything put on a platter in front of you....like Sense does. Especially with the social integration aspect in the people app and the calender.
Although an AOSP ICS Rom night change all of that for good. We do seem to have improvements in the contacts and calender apps.
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srikanth.naidu said:
i concur with the observations of everybody one on this thread, sense is some times heavy , most times resource hungry but the most important aspect of it is the packaging, i tried every rom available here on XDA and found when i was on CM i always had to download additional stuff say for my calender's, social networking,word processing (apps to open .doc's and other stuff) and crucial of them camera !!! i am sure many will agree MIUI cam is heck of a lot better then what CM has !. But when i'm back on sense roms (RCmix,ARhd or lee) i dont need get these extra stuff.
The way is see it,if we are going to build some thing to have integration of various different aspects of using your phone with third party applications you are bound to have a heck up here or there but then its quite hard to see those kinda of heck ups happening on any these sense roms even on the beta one's ! so i guess coming from a sony branded x10 with there stupid philosophy and launcher , i believe integration and stability are the key factors of sense, the only other rom that i found such level of integration sans few heck ups are the MIUI roms but then there always the battery drain issue on them.
So as for ICS i believe HTC should try to carry the kind of integration they have sans the resource hunger nature of sense launcher , take some notes from other oem launchers like touchwiz where the complete os experience is not themed.
Just my observations
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Agree with this post totally... but what I am hoping now is that ICS is much better on a UI point of view that HTC would not need to change so much of the OS and just tweak it a bit to add a bit of differential. This hopefully mean that it won't be so heavy. But then saying so, HW acceleration will help so much in transitions on the UI that maybe it won't feel as heavy.
I feel HTC should add on top of the existing UI instead of stripping and re-writing most of the Google Code.
Sense is definitely one of the best UI customizations available for Android. The focus on social integration is its biggest strength. At the same time its so heavy that it brings my phone to a standstill sometimes, which makes me want to just go back to AOSP now and then.
To get to the point, I doubt HTC will let Sense fade away that easily. It is their identity, and as MrKaon already mentioned, they're going to take it to the next level. Because ICS has a lot of that functionality now built in, I'm hoping HTC will rework Sense to make it much lighter. I'm eager to see what more they do with it !