Hello everyone ! I'm considering buying a new phone since mine is almost dead. I saw le pro 3(x720) for less than 200€ that is a great price for snapdragon 821 with band b20 support ( in Europe it is somehow a deal breaker).
So I came up here to ask you guys about then customs ROM support and stability with Microg. I don't use gapps and other fancy google apps. I saw that the camera is OK so I'm ok with that but I saw that there ia some inconsistency with battery life and SOT ? So in your opinion, x720 worth buying or is better to go with other brand with couple of bucks more ?
Look at the custom ROM section of this forum and see if you're satisfied.
I don't know what your use case is, but I think LeEco phones are great... as long as they've got official LeEco ROMs on them. Sellers like Banggood/Gearbest/Geekbuying put shop ROMs on most of the LeEco devices they sell which don't pass SafetyNet. Plus the build quality of phones from these sellers can be quite iffy.
Get a phone from HongKong-Goldway on Aliexpress if you're looking for a new Chinaphone. They do VAT-free shipping to Europe and they're super careful about ROMs. Just beware that, if there's a hardware defect returning the phone will be a pain. Also, always pay with PayPal in case something goes wrong (in this case avoid Aliexpress).
If you want to go with the LeEco Pro 3 and need native SafetyNet passing without Magisk, get the x727 U.S. model. If you don't care for SafetyNet, the x720 is the only Pro3 model with custom ROMs. Avoid the x722. Personally, I'd go with Xiaomi because they've not gone bankrupt like LeEco has. The Xiaomi ROM community is super active. Now even LeEco's main site hosting their official ROMs is down.
Thanks for superfast reply I've been through the android development section and we do have a lot of choice in custom rom ! Sure Xiaomi est sure value but they lack multiple bands over LTE network. In Europe, B20 and B28 (recently) are massively used outside of cities so a phone without b20 will be a handicap. Since, i'll be travelling in Europe, b20 is deal breaker.
I don't use google apps (even maps), or any other apps that needs safetynet so i don't care a lot !
In the meantime, I was also considering 1+5 but it's out of stock :'(
greenpays said:
Thanks for superfast reply I've been through the android development section and we do have a lot of choice in custom rom ! Sure Xiaomi est sure value but they lack multiple bands over LTE network. In Europe, B20 and B28 (recently) are massively used outside of cities so a phone without b20 will be a handicap. Since, i'll be travelling in Europe, b20 is deal breaker.
I don't use google apps (even maps), or any other apps that needs safetynet so i don't care a lot !
In the meantime, I was also considering 1+5 but it's out of stock :'(
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I'd say wait until Black Friday, when many stores will be having sales. Is this going to be a secondary phone or your main phone? I guess the x720 would make for a decent daily driver as long as you get it from a legit source. Don't get the 32GB version since there's no SD card slot (even 32GB is way too little in this day and age). Sadly the x727 doesn't have band 20. Since you don't need SafetyNet, flashing LineageOS on the x720 would be your ideal choice.
Quite a few Xiaomi phones have band 20, like the Note 4X (Snapdragon 625). Do explore all of your options before making a final decision.
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I'd say wait until Black Friday, when many stores will be having sales. Is this going to be a secondary phone or your main phone? I guess the x720 would make for a decent daily driver as long as you get it from a legit source. Don't get the 32GB version since there's no SD card slot (even 32GB is way too little in this day and age). Sadly the x727 doesn't have band 20. Since you don't need SafetyNet, flashing LineageOS on the x720 would be your ideal choice.
Quite a few Xiaomi phones have band 20, like the Note 4X (Snapdragon 625). Do explore all of your options before making a final decision.
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Ohh! Never thought about black friday thanks i'm not in a hurry to buy ! Yes it will be going to be mine main phone. I read somewhere that the next Oneplus 5t will be released on the 5th of Novembre so can be worth waiting :fingers-crossed:
Hey guys, I'm thinking about buying a LeEco Le Pro 3 Elite (x722) for 139€ in a BangGood sale and sell my Xiaomi Mi 5 for 170€.
My interests are a big and good quality screen, a good battery, and a nice custom rom community.
I wanted to know about problems or disadvantages of the phone and also to listen your personal experience with this phone and Banggood service.
Regards, AcRs.
??? Why would you want to sell your Mi 5? It's the better phone since it has custom ROM development and updates. The x722 is stuck on 6.0 for the time being, and has no custom ROMs. Also, a lot of x722s from Banggood have hardware defects. A lot of people are also complaining about weird error messages (like "you're using an unofficial ROM") and stuff like that. I actually just received my x722 today and I'm going to unbox it later tonight. I bought it without realizing that it's stuck with a SafetyNet-failing shop ROM and really wish I bought a Xiaomi phone instead.
x720/x727 GOOD
x722 BAD BAD BAD
As simple as that.
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Hey guys, I'm thinking about buying a LeEco Le Pro 3 Elite (x722) for 139€ in a BangGood sale and sell my Xiaomi Mi 5 for 170€.
My interests are a big and good quality screen, a good battery, and a nice custom rom community.
I wanted to know about problems or disadvantages of the phone and also to listen your personal experience with this phone and Banggood service.
Regards, AcRs.
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I have the x727 that I bought from amazon. Why wouldn't you just buy the x727 from amazon since its only $10 more than banggood?
Next, I just read about the specs for your current Xiami Mi5, it seems that the differences between your current phone and the LeEco x722 are minimal... Why change phones, when you would essentially swap for almost identical specs?
No custom roms but you have the basic software to re-flash it, custom + stock recovery to flash and root.
There may be some custom roms (check tora33 at leeco.re) soon.
Leeco x722 has better design/quality (check user opinions here: https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/leeco-letv-le-pro-3-x722,xiaomi-mi5-32gb).
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...Also, a lot of x722s from Banggood have hardware defects. ....
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Could you please link to the lot of those?
@sk8223 - you are all over forums, moaning about x722 being a bad phone.
Majority of owners thinks that this is a great device, even better than Mi5.
@AcRs
No sense in replacing Mi5, you won't profit much.
Could you please link to the lot of those?
@sk8223 - you are all over forums, moaning about x722 being a bad phone.
Majority of owners thinks that this is a great device, even better than Mi5.
@AcRs
No sense in replacing Mi5, you won't profit much.
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I had my doubts about the phone because of the issues people here were facing. Now that I have the phone in my hand I'm quite pleased--it is a good phone despite having a shop ROM. I just hope I don't run into the issues users faced here, but so far everything seems to be working fine. I'm still not sure I'd recommend the x722 in particular, though, since it's kernel sources haven't been released and it's stuck with a shop ROM. You definitely don't want to be stuck with a phone on 6.0 with KRACK WPA2 vulnerabilities and all.
If you're gonna buy, do not go for the X722 version. In fact, I would suggest you to buy from this link.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...&terminal_id=3938af6eb15e45aebd9b2b57ad02cd31
Now, the main differences between Le Pro 3 and Mi5 are as follows:
1) Le Pro 3 has a bigger screen than Mi5
2) Mi5 has a better camera than Le Pro 3
3) Le Pro 3 has a bigger battery
4) Le Pro 3 has zero warranty from LeEco itself, so, if it has a software defect, you can fix it with support from XDA, but if it has a hardware defect, you gotta buy a replacement part from AliExpress, Banggood, Gearbest etc. and have it replaced at some local shop.
5) Mi5 has better custom ROM support but it doesn't matter much cause Le Pro 3 has a lot of support. You'll find a ton of custom ROMs. My favourite being AOSPA, the link for which I have provided right here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/development/rom-paranoid-android-t3635168
You can make your decision based on these points. If I helped you in any way, please press the thanks button. It'd help me a bit.
adityabanerjee1303 said:
If you're gonna buy, do not go for the X722 version. In fact, I would suggest you to buy from this link.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...&terminal_id=3938af6eb15e45aebd9b2b57ad02cd31
Now, the main differences between Le Pro 3 and Mi5 are as follows:
1) Le Pro 3 has a bigger screen than Mi5
2) Mi5 has a better camera than Le Pro 3
3) Le Pro 3 has a bigger battery
4) Le Pro 3 has zero warranty from LeEco itself, so, if it has a software defect, you can fix it with support from XDA, but if it has a hardware defect, you gotta buy a replacement part from AliExpress, Banggood, Gearbest etc. and have it replaced at some local shop.
5) Mi5 has better custom ROM support but it doesn't matter much cause Le Pro 3 has a lot of support. You'll find a ton of custom ROMs. My favourite being AOSPA, the link for which I have provided right here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/development/rom-paranoid-android-t3635168
You can make your decision based on these points. If I helped you in any way, please press the thanks button. It'd help me a bit.
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Your answer is my favorite, thanks. I will buy Leeco x720 i think
Congratulations man. I hope you enjoy the phone as much as I did. But.. I used to have a crappy Galaxy Tab 2, and then switching to this phone was awesome cause it was worlds apart. Also, I was kinda forced to buy the Le Pro 3 cause.. well, I'm just 14, and my dad wouldn't allow anything more than 200 bucks, but I'm really happy with the purchase. Good luck!
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Congratulations man. I hope you enjoy the phone as much as I did. But.. I used to have a crappy Galaxy Tab 2, and then switching to this phone was awesome cause it was worlds apart. Also, I was kinda forced to buy the Le Pro 3 cause.. well, I'm just 14, and my dad wouldn't allow anything more than 200 bucks, but I'm really happy with the purchase. Good luck!
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I've owned lots of phones and trust me you don't have to spend insane amounts of money. On Samsung Galaxy or iPhones to get a good phone. Leeco and xiaomi are proof of that
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andrew2401 said:
I've owned lots of phones and trust me you don't have to spend insane amounts of money. On Samsung Galaxy or iPhones to get a good phone. Leeco and xiaomi are proof of that
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My thoughts exactly!
I still have doubts about buying it or not.
I live in Brazil so here I dont have any warranty if anything happens with the phone, mainly the screen type problems. I need a phone with gorilla glass
I wanted to buy Xiaomi Redmi note 4X because of the camera and the price of course, but it dosent come with gorilla glass and with more 20€ I can buy X722 (153€) that comes with gorilla glass 3
I saw that someone said to not buy it because the camera dosent have IS, but i'm seeing the photos and they're great! Am I wrong? https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/5c9a42/8
I cannot see any phone with this price with a better camera and with GGlass...
Oh and BTW, I can only buy it on Gearbest because of customs
Dannycoelhoo said:
I still have doubts about buying it or not.
I live in Brazil so here I dont have any warranty if anything happens with the phone, mainly the screen type problems. I need a phone with gorilla glass
I wanted to buy Xiaomi Redmi note 4X because of the camera and the price of course, but it dosent come with gorilla glass and with more 20€ I can buy X722 (153€) that comes with gorilla glass 3
I saw that someone said to not buy it because the camera dosent have IS, but i'm seeing the photos and they're great! Am I wrong? https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/5c9a42/8
I cannot see any phone with this price with a better camera and with GGlass...
Oh and BTW, I can only buy it on Gearbest because of customs
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First of all, mark my words properly.
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, DO NOT BUY THE X722 MODEL. THAT IS LE PRO 3 ELITE AND IT HAS A FAAARRRR INFERIOR CHIP THAN X720 and X727.
Now, from my experiences, the camera is good. Not the best in the price range, but once you install the modded Google Camera with HDR+, the camera is one of the best in the price range. The AliExpress link which I provided, it offers free shipping to Brazil, so, check it out.. I'll provide it again.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...&terminal_id=3938af6eb15e45aebd9b2b57ad02cd31
I think that you should go for this phone with your eyes closed, and the first thing you should do when it arrives, is install a custom ROM. And please, DO NOT GO FOR THE X722 MODEL. YOU'LL DEEPLY REGRET IT!!
Am I wrong or LeEco Le S3 have better camera than x720? Because of the Digital IS?
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adityabanerjee1303 said:
First of all, mark my words properly.
UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, DO NOT BUY THE X722 MODEL. THAT IS LE PRO 3 ELITE AND IT HAS A FAAARRRR INFERIOR CHIP THAN X720 and X727.
Now, from my experiences, the camera is good. Not the best in the price range, but once you install the modded Google Camera with HDR+, the camera is one of the best in the price range. The AliExpress link which I provided, it offers free shipping to Brazil, so, check it out.. I'll provide it again.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...&terminal_id=3938af6eb15e45aebd9b2b57ad02cd31
I think that you should go for this phone with your eyes closed, and the first thing you should do when it arrives, is install a custom ROM. And please, DO NOT GO FOR THE X722 MODEL. YOU'LL DEEPLY REGRET IT!!
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The problem is that I pay Customs Tax... I will buy to Portugal because my parents live there, they will bring it to me
Dannycoelhoo said:
Am I wrong or LeEco Le S3 have better camera than x720? Because of the Digital IS?
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The problem is that I pay Customs Tax... I will buy to Portugal because my parents live there, they will bring it to me
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No, the Le Pro 3 has a better camera. Digital IS is not all that matters. Aperture, image processing, contrast and dynamic range also matter, and they're all better in the Le Pro 3.
Btw, the AliExpress link also offers free shipping to Portugal.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...&terminal_id=3938af6eb15e45aebd9b2b57ad02cd31
adityabanerjee1303 said:
No, the Le Pro 3 has a better camera. Digital IS is not all that matters. Aperture, image processing, contrast and dynamic range also matter, and they're all better in the Le Pro 3.
Btw, the AliExpress link also offers free shipping to Portugal.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...&terminal_id=3938af6eb15e45aebd9b2b57ad02cd31
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I know it is freeshipping but you'll pay taxes!! eheheh In gearbest its also free but it comes from spain so I dont pay taxes
Dannycoelhoo said:
I still have doubts about buying it or not.
I live in Brazil so here I dont have any warranty if anything happens with the phone, mainly the screen type problems. I need a phone with gorilla glass
I wanted to buy Xiaomi Redmi note 4X because of the camera and the price of course, but it dosent come with gorilla glass and with more 20€ I can buy X722 (153€) that comes with gorilla glass 3
I saw that someone said to not buy it because the camera dosent have IS, but i'm seeing the photos and they're great! Am I wrong? https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/5c9a42/8
I cannot see any phone with this price with a better camera and with GGlass...
Oh and BTW, I can only buy it on Gearbest because of customs
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AliExpress is better than gearbest in my opinion. And as a poster below me pointed out. The model on AliExpress is the xt720 which has custom ROM support
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So I'm still searching for the right phone
I need one with Gorilla Glass and a great camera with the price range till 160€. What can you guys suggest me?
Dannycoelhoo said:
I know it is freeshipping but you'll pay taxes!! eheheh In gearbest its also free but it comes from spain so I dont pay taxes
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Forgot to add whenever I ordered anything on gearbest or AliExpress. I've never been charged customs regards if I choose free or paid shipping. AliExpress is just quicker and easier to deal with in case of an issue. As apposed to gearbest
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andrew2401 said:
Forgot to add whenever I ordered anything on gearbest or AliExpress. I've never been charged customs regards if I choose free or paid shipping. AliExpress is just quicker and easier to deal with in case of an issue. As apposed to gearbest
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Please understand that Gearbest have a thing that no other site have: Priority Line. Truly you'll not pay taxes! They have an way to enter via Spain and it dosent go to customs
Now the price for this axon 7c is 180-190 dollars and for such a price 2k amoled screen, snapdragon 821, audio chip + stereo speakers + good camera + NFC, this offer is even better than LeEco Le pro 3 for profitability, but there are no firmware
Does it make sense to buy and will there be in the future firmware?
Don't bother. Chinese ROM, no updating or mods.
Waste of a good device
Which phone would be a good alternative to the 7s? The Google Pixel 3 has front-facing stereo speakers, too!
It sounds like an OK deal but I would lowball for 150$ if it's on Craigslist or whatever. Just flash A2017U firmware on it, then install a good LOS/AOSP-based ROM. But if you dont live in Asia or have a carrier in that area, then it may not be such a good deal because you will have trouble getting 4G LTE because of the modem/baseband, I believe you will only get 3G. Up to you though.
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It sounds like an OK deal but I would lowball for 150$ if it's on Craigslist or whatever. Just flash A2017U firmware on it, then install a good LOS/AOSP-based ROM. But if you dont live in Asia or have a carrier in that area, then it may not be such a good deal because you will have trouble getting 4G LTE because of the modem/baseband, I believe you will only get 3G. Up to you though.
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Good luck flashing firmware from a phone with a different SoC on it...
Assuming you can get it unlocked, of course.
Then you need to develop your ROM yourself because there's no Treble, and flashing U firmware wouldn't really make it have an 820 (i.e. our treble or custom ROM's won't work)
@Choose an username...: It has different SoC? I thought that all A7 variants had same SoC, but with differing amounts of RAM/storage. Thanks for the clarification.
Definitely a bad deal, you'll be locked to Chinese firmware forever. And probably unable to unlock bootloader, install TWRP, etc. But hey, it's your money.
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@Choose an username...: It has different SoC? I thought that all A7 variants had same SoC, but with differing amounts of RAM/storage. Thanks for the clarification.
Definitely a bad deal, you'll be locked to Chinese firmware forever. And probably unable to unlock bootloader, install TWRP, etc. But hey, it's your money.
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It has an SD821, not much different but different nonetheless. Different camera setup too. Apparently no extra DAC like the SD820 versions have.
A bit of give and take. If the software was available I would have the 7s as I don't use wired output much although still like having the option to use it, but would gladly sacrifice the extra DAC for better camera, more storage and faster SoC.
Seems like it would be an amazing device if someone managed to unlock it.