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Hi,
I know that photos are limited to 8MP but what kind of settings exactly and within which range can you apply? Iso range and steps? Shutter speed range and steps? Can you change shutter and iso at the same time? Do the apps adhere to these settings or is there some kind of built in Sony override? Shutter lag?
Can all of the 3rd party camera apps change the same settings or do some have more options, better quality?
Is it possible to have some kind of predictive focus like with the new X series?
Thanks a lot.
drsoran2 said:
Hi,
I know that photos are limited to 8MP but what kind of settings exactly and within which range can you apply? Iso range and steps? Shutter speed range and steps? Can you change shutter and iso at the same time? Do the apps adhere to these settings or is there some kind of built in Sony override? Shutter lag?
Can all of the 3rd party camera apps change the same settings or do some have more options, better quality?
Is it possible to have some kind of predictive focus like with the new X series?
Thanks a lot.
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Apparently, Camera FV-5 now supports 23MP on the Z5.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z5-Z5-Compact-Z5-Premium/Full-camera-res-in-third-party-apps/m-p/1129044/highlight/true#M19112
Can anyone confirm?
frankm87 said:
Apparently, Camera FV-5 now supports 23MP on the Z5.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...-party-apps/m-p/1129044/highlight/true#M19112
Can anyone confirm?
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After seeing this, I reinstalled and can confirm. FV-5 does now take photos at full 23mp resolution.
frankm87 said:
Apparently, Camera FV-5 now supports 23MP on the Z5.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...-party-apps/m-p/1129044/highlight/true#M19112
Can anyone confirm?
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Yes it does. But slow shutterspeed still 2,1 mp. Although u can choose a preset shutterspeed on 23mp.
ISO is not adjustable at preset shutterspeed but it is when using custom shutterspeed time (2,1mp)
I think atm this is the best app available for those who want a bit more functionality (Camera2 API) then point and shoot.
For further improvement, Sony should fix their API as it seems incomplete to me.
BTW about predictive focus, there's object tracing focus in Stock Sony camera app. It just isn't as fast as shown in commercials but that will be the case with Xperia x too.
Commercials lie.
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So far every camera app I've tried has shutter lag, and it's worse because the camera focuses first when you press the shutter. Stock app is fastest if you use shutter button and half-press to focus first, but it still skips a frame from the moment you press the shutter. The other option... is Facebook messenger which probably just captures a frame from the live feed.
Great that Camera FV-5 has full-res now, wonder how they achieved it.
The Xperia X has a new algorithm that makes things more efficient, and this may also involve the hardware as well. Why couldn't Sony implement this sooner? My friends who have owned Z1 and Z3 say they have shutter lag as well.
At least on my Z5 Premium max resolution on FV-5 is still 8MP. I don't understand what you guys are talking about. Do you have your phones rooted?
I just reinstalled FV-5 a few times. FV-5 claims my phone supports RAW, but after selecting PNG as the file format, the app crashed and wouldn't load anymore. Resetting the phone didn't help. Only reinstalling the app helped.
FV-5 is still completely unusable. I managed to focus a few times and even managed to took one picture. After that FV-5 has not been able to focus and refuses to take any pictures. All it can do is crash.
I still haven't found even one functioning 3rd party camera app for my Z5 Premium.
Ive found that opencamera, manual camera, camera-FV5 have working manual controls
Personally i prefer camera-FV5 As it doesnt oversharpen as much as Manual camera
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N0whereMan said:
At least on my Z5 Premium max resolution on FV-5 is still 8MP. I don't understand what you guys are talking about. Do you have your phones rooted?
I just reinstalled FV-5 a few times. FV-5 claims my phone supports RAW, but after selecting PNG as the file format, the app crashed and wouldn't load anymore. Resetting the phone didn't help. Only reinstalling the app helped.
FV-5 is still completely unusable. I managed to focus a few times and even managed to took one picture. After that FV-5 has not been able to focus and refuses to take any pictures. All it can do is crash.
I still haven't found even one functioning 3rd party camera app for my Z5 Premium.
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Me too
N0whereMan said:
At least on my Z5 Premium max resolution on FV-5 is still 8MP. I don't understand what you guys are talking about. Do you have your phones rooted?
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I'm using Xperia Z5 unrooted and I have version 3.2 and it has 20 and 23MP. Maybe it only works on Z5 for now.
FYLin21 said:
I'm using Xperia Z5 unrooted and I have version 3.2 and it has 20 and 23MP. Maybe it only works on Z5 for now.
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Whether it works or not almost surely depends on the firmware version.
Which firmware version do you have?
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I'm using Xperia Z5 unrooted and I have version 3.2 and it has 20 and 23MP. Maybe it only works on Z5 for now.
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Nope, I have Z5 and 1.163 firmware.
FV-5 don't work over 8.23mpx and auto focus do not work properly.
Lio78 said:
Nope, I have Z5 and 1.163 firmware.
FV-5 don't work over 8.23mpx and auto focus do not work properly.
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The latest firmware version is 1.185, which I still can't get through OTA updates. Are the 23MP available on 1.185?
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I'm using Xperia Z5 unrooted and I have version 3.2 and it has 20 and 23MP. Maybe it only works on Z5 for now.
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On the linked sonymobile site someone said 23MP is available on Z5 Compact. I don't understand what is going on. It would be wonderful if FV-5 finally would begin to function properly.
Envious_Data said:
Ive found that opencamera, manual camera, camera-FV5 have working manual controls
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Based on your suggestion, i tried Open Camera. This is the first time i have full manual control on my Z5 Premium over shutter speed and ISO. Shutter speed is controllable up to 1/10s and ISO between 50 -3200. AF is a problem on this app also, but at least it doesn't crash all the time. I will test this app more.
I remember trying out Open Camera and numerous other camera apps last Christmas. None of the apps worked back then, so at least some positive signs can be seen.
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The latest firmware version is 1.185, which I still can't get through OTA updates. Are the 23MP available on 1.185?
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On my Z5 Premium firmware version is the latest 1.185. Maximum resolution on FV-5 is 8MP.
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N0whereMan said:
On the linked sonymobile site someone said 23MP is available on Z5 Compact. I don't understand what is going on. It would be wonderful if FV-5 finally would begin to function properly.
Based on your suggestion, i tried Open Camera. This is the first time i have full manual control on my Z5 Premium over shutter speed and ISO. Shutter speed is controllable up to 1/10s and ISO between 50 -3200. AF is a problem on this app also, but at least it doesn't crash all the time. I will test this app more.
I remember trying out Open Camera and numerous other camera apps last Christmas. None of the apps worked back then, so at least some positive signs can be seen.
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On my Z5 Premium firmware version is the latest 1.185. Maximum resolution on FV-5 is 8MP.
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Can you elaborate on the available shutter speed steps in-between 1/10 and 1/4000 or whatever the highest is? Can ISO and shutter be adjusted at the same time? What do you mean with AF problems and crashes?
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Can you elaborate on the available shutter speed steps in-between 1/10 and 1/4000 or whatever the highest is? Can ISO and shutter be adjusted at the same time? What do you mean with AF problems and crashes?
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On Open Camera fastest available shutter is 1/10500s. Both shutter speed and ISO can be very finely controlled. There are more available shutter speeds and ISOs than cameras usually have. Yes, ISO and shutter speed can be adjusted at the same time. Open Camera is a free app, so everybody with a Z5 can experiment with it.
Open Camera does not crash like FV-5 does, but physical shutter button (half-pressing) cannot be used for AF. It tries to focus but never locks, as it will just pump the focus aimlessly. When pressing the shutter button fully (or hitting the shutter button on screen), it seems to focus before taking a picture. Weird behavior.
here is the Camera FV-5 on Z5p .185 firmware
Ok. Now we are getting somewhere. My Camera Fv-5 version is 3.15.1. That's the newest version i can find. Where have gotten the 3.2 version? Maybe this is a regional thing.
Daniel_GB said:
here is the Camera FV-5 on Z5p .185 firmware
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N0whereMan said:
Ok. Now we are getting somewhere. My Camera Fv-5 version is 3.15.1. That's the newest version i can find. Where have gotten the 3.2 version? Maybe this is a regional thing.
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probably a regional thing...
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On Open Camera fastest available shutter is 1/10500s. Both shutter speed and ISO can be very finely controlled. There are more available shutter speeds and ISOs than cameras usually have. Yes, ISO and shutter speed can be adjusted at the same time. Open Camera is a free app, so everybody with a Z5 can experiment with it.
Open Camera does not crash like FV-5 does, but physical shutter button (half-pressing) cannot be used for AF. It tries to focus but never locks, as it will just pump the focus aimlessly. When pressing the shutter button fully (or hitting the shutter button on screen), it seems to focus before taking a picture. Weird behavior.
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So, basically with open camera we can finally fine tune the iso and shutter speed simultaneously and have full manual control and autofocus working - albeit at 8MP maximum (and on the latest firmware)?
But camera fv-5 can now do the full resolution but can't focus or take a picture? Someone needs to find a way to combine both of these apps...and add longer shutter speeds than 1/10th. That'll be great.
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So, basically with open camera we can finally fine tune the iso and shutter speed simultaneously and have full manual control and autofocus working - albeit at 8MP maximum (and on the latest firmware)?
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With Open Camera we can control ISO and shutter speed simultaneously. Autofocus certainly does not work properly. With the physical shutter button autofocus is impossible. I just restarted my phone, and now touch focus seems to work. Before the restart, touch focus stopped functioning early on (no focus lock confirmation, even though it looked it focused). So things really aren't smooth.
Open Camera clearly uses only contrast detection auto focus, as it goes through the full focus range every time it focuses. So the focusing is slow by today's standards. Also the shutter lag is even worse than with Sony's own app.
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But camera fv-5 can now do the full resolution but can't focus or take a picture? Someone needs to find a way to combine both of these apps...and add longer shutter speeds than 1/10th. That'll be great.
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I have no access to the latest 3.2 version of FV-5, so i don't know if the focusing issues have been fixed on it.
Can anyone make google camera with hdr+ work on zenfone 3 ze520kl/ze552kl. Tried every version and each config settings inside the app. Even redmi note 4 supports it but zenfone 3 don't, despite of having a good sensor
Is this what you're referring to?
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-customization-raw-support/
I tested it and it's working fine on my ze552kl
With the right settings, it will. I'm using it bruv. ZE520KL.
What settings are you using?
Felipe_Salves said:
What settings are you using?
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I tried all the settings but some weired reason it works in dark room and macro with flash on. In other situations it gave me fc.
Settings:
Back camera support- limited
Device nexus -6p
Hdr pricessing- pixel experimental features
wang1chung said:
Is this what you're referring to?
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-customization-raw-support/
I tested it and it's working fine on my ze552kl
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im using viper os and enabled camera2api also. I switched to custom rom only the google camera to work but that didn't help. Still fc on hdr+ processsing.
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With the right settings, it will. I'm using it bruv. ZE520KL.
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what is the setting bro? for this phone
@saswatmeher05
Might be an issue with the viper rom then, I've had no issues wit hdr+ enabled and stock settings.
Have you tried the stock Rom to eliminate that as a possibility?
wang1chung said:
@saswatmeher05
Might be an issue with the viper rom then, I've had no issues wit hdr+ enabled and stock settings.
Have you tried the stock Rom to eliminate that as a possibility?
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bro ive tried on stock rom but didn't work so I switched to a custom rom but didn't work either. Btw hdr+ works when the config shows in bottom of the screen like(pixel experimental features). And taping on preview it shows hdr+ processing. If it clicks with no shutter delay and no popup then its normal image not hdr+ processed.
If working for someone then what are the settings. Keep in mind that I'm talking about hdr+ processed photos, not just normal captures. When it shows processing on the screen after u tap the shutter button then its hdr+ processed if not then its just a normal image.
I see it takes pictures @ 12Mp (4:3) instead of 16Mp.
Also, I don't think HDR (or ZSL) settings make a difference...
The picture I've taken with Google Camera are grainier (especially shadows) than with Asus, using 12Mp settings in both.
wang1chung said:
Is this what you're referring to?
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-customization-raw-support/
I tested it and it's working fine on my ze552kl
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hey bro I know the camera app is working just like google camera but the problem is that it isn't working with hdr+ . When hdr+ processes the image it takes seconds and looks different than normal shot(Tried with my brother's oneplus 3t). Some people on youtube are claiming that it works(with hdr+ processing) in redmi note 4(snapdragon 625 variant).
CygnusBlack said:
I see it takes pictures @ 12Mp (4:3) instead of 16Mp.
Also, I don't think HDR (or ZSL) settings make a difference...
The picture I've taken with Google Camera are grainier (especially shadows) than with Asus, using 12Mp settings in both.
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ya bro not making any difference since it gives fc on hdr+ processing. If the photo is not hdr processed then its a normal picture. i've tried how the hdr+ works on my brother's oneplus 3t. the difference is very noticeable.
I installed the apk on my ze552kl running stock nougat with latest update. I keep getting force close when I open google camera. Is this a known issue in general and is there a fix/workaround?
edit: did some reading and this seems to be related to the ambient lighting when you turn on the camera. if you're in a well lit area the camera will work, when i pan towards a darker place (or open the camera in a darker place) the camera immediately FC's
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I installed the apk on my ze552kl running stock nougat with latest update. I keep getting force close when I open google camera. Is this a known issue in general and is there a fix/workaround?
edit: did some reading and this seems to be related to the ambient lighting when you turn on the camera. if you're in a well lit area the camera will work, when i pan towards a darker place (or open the camera in a darker place) the camera immediately FC's
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Dont know if that's the case but thanks for the help. It worked for some weired reasons when flash is on for macro in full dark room. Apart from that hdr+ seems to be don't working for me. Also tried with stock rom with/without camera2api enabled, still no good
Hi everyone, GCMod5 works on zenfone 3 after the oreo update. Sligtly better than the stock camera.
SamD7 said:
Hi everyone, GCMod5 works on zenfone 3 after the oreo update. Sligtly better than the stock camera.
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no, GCMod5 dont work on ZenFone 3 after oreo update. GCMod5 uses a maximum resolution of 9,4 megapixels, but the stock asus camera app uses a maximum resolution of 16/12 megapixels.
aleks10393 said:
no, GCMod5 dont work on ZenFone 3 after oreo update. GCMod5 uses a maximum resolution of 9,4 megapixels, but the stock asus camera app uses a maximum resolution of 16/12 megapixels.
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mine still works
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SamD7 said:
Hi everyone, GCMod5 works on zenfone 3 after the oreo update. Sligtly better than the stock camera.
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Syahid M. said:
mine still works
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yes, it works, but doesnt have a resolution of 16 and 12 megapixels.
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yes, it works, but doesnt have a resolution of 16 and 12 megapixels.
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i found something on the internet that google cam cannot detect resolution above 9.4 because pixel 2 only have 12mp rear cam
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I have tried multiple apps on my 6GB variant of the Zenfone Max Pro M1 but no app allows to take long exposures. Does anybody have a solution?
Note- Camera2api is enabled.
OpenCamera, Footej Camera workes for me. I personally used OpenCamera, but I've moved to Footej Camera recently for better UI. This picture was shot with OpenCamera.
Wangan_Beginner said:
OpenCamera, Footej Camera workes for me. I personally used OpenCamera, but I've moved to Footej Camera recently for better UI. This picture was shot with OpenCamera.
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I have tried both apps but the shutter speed does not go beyond half a second.
I want to take 10-20 second exposures.
Ah I didn't read that your device is the 6GB varian.. Mine's 4GB. I have no idea whether there's a difference or not, sorry.
Just wondering if there is a version of gcam that can be installed? And where do you check for development and updates these days? Had a Pixel for so long I've no idea where to go!!
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
considering the fact that the 8 Pro is one of the two phones in the world that uses the IMX 689 sensor, it'll take some time for developers to make a proper port for this phone.
Any luck?
I'm using GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v1.7-fix.apk from https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-urnyx05/#apk1475 and it works well so far.
voltiger said:
I'm using GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v1.7-fix.apk from https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-urnyx05/#apk1475 and it works well so far.
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I can't get the other cameras to work, they just crash the app after you enable and select.
Mr Paul said:
I can't get the other cameras to work, they just crash the app after you enable and select.
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You mean the telephoto & wide ?
Mr Paul said:
I can't get the other cameras to work, they just crash the app after you enable and select.
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Yep, This version of GCAM cannot support the UltraWide and Tele cam yet.
says it need root access to work..
That means I have no luck using ultrawide and tele lens with GCAM apps...
Use stock apps instead
Indeeed
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I really hope we will see a stable version of GCam working with all Oneplus 8 Pro cameras.
I personally think there is a lot of potential in that IMX 689 sensor.
I am still thinking there should be some real use of this strange photochrom camera as well.
And may be a nice manual PRO VIDEO mode as well :fingers-crossed:
Most probably I will get the Filmic Pro anyway soon.
I only just installed GCam yesterday after reading this thread .. lol.
So far played with the different modes (not lenses/cameras) but the night mode seems really good. The downside (if I can call it that), is that it appears that Gcams ability to take HDR photos vs stock app's ability, Gcam's takes much longer to process before storing? Like as you take the shot, there is noticeable processing time, vs. the stock app which seems to effectively point-shoot-store fairly quickly.
happiboi said:
I only just installed GCam yesterday after reading this thread .. lol.
So far played with the different modes (not lenses/cameras) but the night mode seems really good. The downside (if I can call it that), is that it appears that Gcams ability to take HDR photos vs stock app's ability, Gcam's takes much longer to process before storing? Like as you take the shot, there is noticeable processing time, vs. the stock app which seems to effectively point-shoot-store fairly quickly.
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I used to have GCAM on my OnePlus 6 before and yes, the GCAM HDR takes much longer than the stock HDR but the quality is faaaaaaar better on GCAM so the processing time has whatever reason but it's definitely worth it
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... Gcam's takes much longer to process before storing? Like as you take the shot, there is noticeable processing time, vs. the stock app which seems to effectively point-shoot-store fairly quickly.
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voltiger said:
I used to have GCAM on my OnePlus 6 before and yes, the GCAM HDR takes much longer than the stock HDR but the quality is faaaaaaar better on GCAM so the processing time has whatever reason but it's definitely worth it
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GCam has a different algorithm which processes many frames. In Pixel devices, there is a dedicated chip (pixel visual core) which performs the necessary computations. In other devices, it is the main processor that has to do all the job
I played around with the GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v1.8, which delivers nice results. but I noticed that the maximum resolution is 4000x3000. the stock camera goes up to 8000x6000. is there a way to activate the full resolution? in the settings it is already set to full resolution.
other than that, can anyone recommend any of the configs for this gcam? https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/configs-urnyx-02/
How does the night mode compare to the pixel 4? I imagine it would be better because of the larger sensor
Hi Guys,
Taking pics in 48 mp slows down the stock camera. Is there any solution or alternate camera apk?
ankur_shah88 said:
Hi Guys,
Taking pics in 48 mp slows down the stock camera. Is there any solution or alternate camera apk?
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Not for the stock, generally speaking this is down to the automatic settings being sorted and set dynamically based on the light conditions.
Give pro mode a go and set the ISO/ shutter speed yourself. Might help.
Beyond this, give camera X pro or fv camera a whirl
Or one of the many many GCam alternatives.
You could potentially roll back your OOS camera app by the newest one is more than likely installed
Oh and turn off battery optimization, might not do anything but worth a shot
I've found slow down in poor light but I understand why this happens
Oh and change your resolution from QHD-FHD in display, that helped the P20 Pro when this issue happend to me.