Has anyone dug into the hidden settings for the phone, to find a way to adjust a setting to allow the phone to ignore the magnet sensor (which defaults always on and is used to detect whether you are using a flip cover)?
LG intends that the magnet sensor setting be inaccessible so that you can never disable the magnet sensor. But LG said the same thing about the knock-on/knock-off setting, which lo and behold really can be exposed using something like the app called "QuickShortcutMaker" to disable that supposedly inaccessible setting.
So, is someone aware of a tool or other similar approach to adjust a "hidden" setting for the magnet sensor? At least, I assume the hidden setting exists somehow by analogizing to the knock sensor, I don't know for sure that the magnet sensor is similar, but it would make logical sense...
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Hey, so I'm not really sure where to post this, but here goes nothing.
To my knowledge, the incredible is not marketed as having a magnetic trigger (a la the Droid), but I have noticed interesting behavior when in close proximity to magnets.
The backstory- I am working on a stealth (looks stock) magnetic mount for my Inc. to connect to my car. (Actually just finished installation and testing... will post more on that later). Anyhow, when I have magnets in the back cover, it seems to disable the accelerometers, thus keeping the device orientation regardless of movement and positioning.
Not sure if this is a hardware deal wherein the magnets physically impede the accelerometers, but using a logging app, it seems that the sensors are actually disabled.
Anybody want to weigh in if I am missing something?
Thanks!
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mattjacobson said:
Hey, so I'm not really sure where to post this, but here goes nothing.
To my knowledge, the incredible is not marketed as having a magnetic trigger (a la the Droid), but I have noticed interesting behavior when in close proximity to magnets.
The backstory- I am working on a stealth (looks stock) magnetic mount for my Inc. to connect to my car. (Actually just finished installation and testing... will post more on that later). Anyhow, when I have magnets in the back cover, it seems to disable the accelerometers, thus keeping the device orientation regardless of movement and positioning.
Not sure if this is a hardware deal wherein the magnets physically impede the accelerometers, but using a logging app, it seems that the sensors are actually disabled.
Anybody want to weigh in if I am missing something?
Thanks!
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It makes sense that it would at least mess with them if not totally disable it. I'd also wager your compass will be unusable.
What *I* want to know is if there is a way then that the device could determine if it's a magnet. Could use that to trigger a car-dock type of mode?
Well I assumed that it would affect my compass (weighed the consequences, but I hardly ever use it).
The interesting thing to me was that it didn't just throw everything off, it seemed to disable the sensor's output.
You bring up a good idea tho, perhaps turning on a program based on the sensors not returning values (given that my earlier speculation is accurate). My plans thus far was going to have a tasked widget activate my "car mode", but this could be interesting.
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Couple of tests with SensorsTest and GPSStatus apps and yeah.. the magnet does for sure disable the compass (locks it on East). And definitely breaks the orientation sensor. BUT I wonder if GPS nav needs the magnometer reading for heading anyway.
Even a little whiteboard magnet put just below the speaker on the back cranks the magnometer readings to fly up to 1000-2000.
I should get my ass in gear and see if I can't write a "car dock" app like we're describing and have it not break anything.
I should also contact HTC and see if prolonged exposure to a "strong" magnet will break the sensor.
I got the ARAS case that has a huge magnet and when I open my phone and flip the cover all the way to the back it turns the phone off.
How can I change the sensitivity settings for the magnet?
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I tested with Tasker and there is a big difference in magnetism when the phone cover is close versus opened all the way to the back of the phone
charly1 said:
I got the ARAS case that has a huge magnet and when I open my phone and flip the cover all the way to the back it turns the phone off.
How can I change the sensitivity settings for the magnet?
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I tested with Tasker and there is a big difference in magnetism when the phone cover is close versus opened all the way to the back of the phone
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I haven't seen anything on the settings or build.prop, kernel or elsewhere to control the magnetic sensitivity on the switch of the G2... Actually I think it's only either on or off detection for the Quick Window case. You can enable it or disable this on the Accessories menu.
Good luck!
Ok, how about using tasker to activate or deactive the quickwindow case option?
Right now I have tasker set to turn the screen off when magentism is between 0 to 60, and when I flip the cover back the screen stays on
Exactly as title says. Anyone else have the official clear view case from Samsung? Does AOD work when your cover is closed? Would be pretty convenient and for some reason Samsung decided not to include this handy feature...
It's a limitation I think.
AOD require light sensor, proximity sensor and some other sensor to work. The cover render these sensor useless and then may cause problem with AOD, so that's what I think why samsung disable it.
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NonXtreme said:
It's a limitation I think.
AOD require light sensor, proximity sensor and some other sensor to work. The cover render these sensor useless and then may cause problem with AOD, so that's what I think why samsung disable it.
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Well the proximity sensors work when talking on the phone with the cover closed... Seems like to me this can be implemented with a minor update.
elpindian said:
Well the proximity sensors work when talking on the phone with the cover closed... Seems like to me this can be implemented with a minor update.
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Are you sure?
I'm not sure about how this kind of case work on new device but I used to have S-view case on my old s4 and it doesn't use proximity sensor to turn display off when calling with cover closed but use motion sensor to detect the movement of the phone to guess whether I'm holding my phone close to my face (and it fail sometimes)
Maybe you can test this by placing your phone on the table when recieving call. Without moving the phone, try cover the proximity sensor and see whether the screen is off.
NonXtreme said:
Are you sure?
I'm not sure about how this kind of case work on new device but I used to have S-view case on my old s4 and it doesn't use proximity sensor to turn display off when calling with cover closed but use motion sensor to detect the movement of the phone to guess whether I'm holding my phone close to my face (and it fail sometimes)
Maybe you can test this by placing your phone on the table when recieving call. Without moving the phone, try cover the proximity sensor and see whether the screen is off.
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You are correct sir, it does not use the proximity sensors when the clear cover is on. But even with that, it uses the phone's other sensors to wake and sleep the screen... Why can't this be applied to the AOD? Just a little thing that would be nice to have.
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You are correct sir, it does not use the proximity sensors when the clear cover is on. But even with that, it uses the phone's other sensors to wake and sleep the screen... Why can't this be applied to the AOD? Just a little thing that would be nice to have.
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Because AOD use proximity sensor to detect whether your phone is in the pocket and turn itself off to save battery. Motion sensor can't do that. Also for motion sensor to detect your movement it need to be on all the time, thus massive battery drain.
It says in the manual that there is a "Hall sensor" hidden somewhere on the screen which allows the screen to be turned on/off when the case is opened/closed. I have a Noreve case which doesn't seem to have this functionality. Does anyone know what the Huawei case has inside it to make this happen, and where exactly it is? Is it a magnet or something else? I've tried moving a magnet everywhere on the screen but I wasn't able to trigger anything.
If possible, I'd like to modify my Noreve case to support his, but I have no idea how the original Huawei case does it.
Also, is there a setting which needs to be enabled for this to work? I have "smart cover" enabled, but I also tried my magnet attempts with it disabled.
From the manual:
"When you use the protective flip cover designed for the M3, the Hall sensor enables your screen to turn on automatically when you open the cover and to turn off when you close it."
"M3 has many useful features which can be used easily. As you open the M3 protective flip cover, the screen turns on. As you close it, the screen turns off."
adibadi said:
It says in the manual that there is a "Hall sensor" hidden somewhere on the screen which allows the screen to be turned on/off when the case is opened/closed. I have a Noreve case which doesn't seem to have this functionality. Does anyone know what the Huawei case has inside it to make this happen, and where exactly it is? Is it a magnet or something else? I've tried moving a magnet everywhere on the screen but I wasn't able to trigger anything.
If possible, I'd like to modify my Noreve case to support his, but I have no idea how the original Huawei case does it.
Also, is there a setting which needs to be enabled for this to work? I have "smart cover" enabled, but I also tried my magnet attempts with it disabled.
From the manual:
"When you use the protective flip cover designed for the M3, the Hall sensor enables your screen to turn on automatically when you open the cover and to turn off when you close it."
"M3 has many useful features which can be used easily. As you open the M3 protective flip cover, the screen turns on. As you close it, the screen turns off."
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Make sure Smart Cover is turned on in Smart Assistance settings.
I found it, just a bit up and left from the fingerprint sensor. Not all magnets work, and the pole matters, it only works in one orientation. I also had to put a metal plate on the other side of the magnet so it wouldn't lock it when the case is flipped open and against the back of the tablet.
This is now a perfect replacement for my broken galaxy Tab S!
I have the official Huawei case and I think there are two sensors as on the case there is a plate / magnet (visible under case) to the left and up a bit from the finger print sensor and a second one half way on the right hand edge. I'll try to post a photo tomorrow which will make a much better job than my description
I have a very strong magnetic phone mount in my truck. It's tricking my phone into thinking that it has a quick cover case on it. The screen randomly goes black and shows the enlarged version of the time and stuff you see on the lock screen.
Anyone know if there's a setting to disable this? Or maybe something to freeze in Titanium Backup?
I'm also trying to solve the same problem. I hope there is some app or software that could expose the setting for whether to ignore the magnetic sensor that is used to trigger/detect the cover case.
I believe that LG says the magnet sensor is *NOT* something you are supposed to be able to disable. But, they said the same thing about knock-on/knock-off, yet we found out we could find the hidden setting to disable that. If it worked for knock-on/knock-off, then I hold out hope that there is a similar approach to solve this problem with the magnet sensor.
I recall long ago there was software called QuickShortcutMaker that could be used for the knock-on/knock-off and many other settings, have you tried that?