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OK, I know this is a pretty old tablet but I'd at least like to be able to get a smooth browsing, email, and streaming experience out of it; I'm not looking to be able to play games or multitask on it.
I'm running the latest version of lollipop and the N7 is rooted. Experiencing frequent serious intermittent lags/crashes, I mean like 60+ seconds can pass before the screen responds, apps hang, and the device occasionally will reboot itself. Other times, the tablet runs smoothly. Was hoping that update to lollipop would resolve some of this but, if anything, it's gotten worse. I've tried the usual "fixes" of clearing the cache, forcing TRIM, closing apps manually, and even did a factory reset + cleared all caches and still the problem persists. The problem seems to occur more frequently when I run apps like the Chrome browser, which I now avoid using. Not really sure if there is a decent process documented on how to troubleshoot these types of issues to find the root cause but the tablet is presently very annoying to use at best.
What I'd like is either: a) getting some help in determining what the root cause of the issue is, or b) switching to a ROM that doesn't have these problems.
Any thoughts, suggestions, or pointers to an in-depth troubleshooting article/thread?
If you find a solution, let me know.. I've tried combos of lollipop and kernels, kit Kat and kernels.. f2fs etc.. I keep mine as a docked alarm clock and ereader for bed.. but even that takes forever.
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I don't know if this will help, but I book marked it for when I update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...ndroid-5-0-t2999635/post58567333#post58567333
I gave up and went back to 4.4.4. I can FINALLY use my tablet again...
It's the flash memory in them. It's just degraded over time. I went back to 4.4.4 and it was excellent for about a week. Then it turned useless again.
That guide posted above seems to be a placebo other than the animation's being turned off. The n7 is absolutely fine after a fresh wipe, or a factory reset. For a week... I went through the guide and the only things it had that would make a real difference was animation speeds. I'll see how it does in a week.
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hi! I was having the same problem, my n7 was super laggy and sometimes rebooted itself. that was just after uprading to lollipop 5.0.2. it kinda solved after rooting, doing a factory reset and installing lollipop 5.1. I hope it helps!
4.4.4 stock with all-f2fs rom. M-kernel r69. Both can be found here on xda.
This is how I got mine running smoothly again, even after trying several lollipop roms including 5.1.
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CM12 is not doing any better, I hope 5.1 could make a difference.
Stock 5.1 + Franco kernel with /data and /cache formatted to f2fs works beautifully for me. No problems at all.
I had all the same problems (and more) you and other spoke about when (a structure that holds back water and sounds like Ham) Google hounded and hounded me to install LolliCrap 5.02 (I ignored 5.0, which somehow disappeared). I HATED my #1 Nexus 7 16GB v2012. I also have a #2 Nexus 7 32GB v2012 (running HAPPILY 4.4.4) which I am still ignoring for "ham" good reason to install 5.02, an I never will install it or the latest 5.1!!
I have been exploring reinstalling the stock 4.4.4, but first I want know how to turn OFF future Google OEM Android updates and stop the "ham" badgering that there is a "new update available. But in the mean time, want to make #1 N7 useful again, I bite the bullet, backed up everything and did a factory reset and reinstalled everything. Even though I still HATE LolliCrap, my #1 N7 16GB is running pretty snappy again though some apps absolutely DON'T LIKE LolliCrap OS and are hanging and hanging and slow and crash (lazy Devs that aren't fixing whatever is causing that with 5.x). Apps I've noticed that are horribly slow with 5.x are Outlook, Skype, Yahoo Mail, Weather Underground, Drop Box, others
So, do a full reset and reinstall after backing up your data. You're gonna lose everything anyway when you Root and Boot Unlock to install an older version of Android or a custom ROM.
Hope this helps.
Glad to see another post here on the very topic I'm looking for. I'm currently running stock 5.1, completely stock, and it's just as bad as 5.0 was. I've read up enough to realize the issue is a flaw with the device, but am going to try and devote an evening or 3 to making this thing work before I completely give up on it. My goal is a minimal, feature poor but reasonably fast device for browsing, email, and some specific apps (a game or 2 and the Harmony Remote app)
Below are the areas I'm looking at, if anyone has advice or tips on any of these I'd really appreciate it:
Custom Kernel- Franco or MKernel r69? Need to investigate
F2FS - This is probably the best shot
Custom ROM - May stay stock, but if anyone knows of a lean, limited feature bloat ROM let me know!
Lightweight Browser - Can we get the original "Browser" App to install? Other options?
Basic EMail Client - not sure about this one..
The moment I saw the thread title, I knew I was not alone on this.
I remember the behavior first started with 4.4.4 actually, refusing to turn the screen on sometimes etc. I tried CM12+f2fs+mkernel 69 and it went well for a few days, then stuff broke again. I first suspected it's a RAM issue because I have two users running, but it constantly has about 150-200MB free (counting the cached apps, 400+ otherwise).
I guess I'll try slimkat 4.4.4 + f2fs modification, hope it can get the tablet running again.
Reapman said:
Glad to see another post here on the very topic I'm looking for. I'm currently running stock 5.1, completely stock, and it's just as bad as 5.0 was. I've read up enough to realize the issue is a flaw with the device, but am going to try and devote an evening or 3 to making this thing work before I completely give up on it. My goal is a minimal, feature poor but reasonably fast device for browsing, email, and some specific apps (a game or 2 and the Harmony Remote app)
Below are the areas I'm looking at, if anyone has advice or tips on any of these I'd really appreciate it:
Custom Kernel- Franco or MKernel r69? Need to investigate
F2FS - This is probably the best shot
Custom ROM - May stay stock, but if anyone knows of a lean, limited feature bloat ROM let me know!
Lightweight Browser - Can we get the original "Browser" App to install? Other options?
Basic EMail Client - not sure about this one..
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1. For some reason Franco never boot my tablet for me...I've been using mkernel r69 and that's working really well.
2. Yep, a must.
3. Tried several custom roms and came back to stock.
4. Opera
5. Stock email, the one can be downloaded via playstore?
Rastapop with Franco kernel runs great to me. Keeping this thing alive.
VintageGuitarz said:
[...] I have been exploring reinstalling the stock 4.4.4, but first I want know how to turn OFF future Google OEM Android updates and stop the "ham" badgering that there is a "new update available [...]
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To remove the update questions you got to root the device and disable the SystemUpdateService service of Google Service Framework and Google Play Services applications (don't know, maybe only Play Service one is really required, but better block both of them).
To do that use this application http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
Reapman said:
Glad to see another post here on the very topic I'm looking for. I'm currently running stock 5.1, completely stock, and it's just as bad as 5.0 was. I've read up enough to realize the issue is a flaw with the device, but am going to try and devote an evening or 3 to making this thing work before I completely give up on it. My goal is a minimal, feature poor but reasonably fast device for browsing, email, and some specific apps (a game or 2 and the Harmony Remote app)
Below are the areas I'm looking at, if anyone has advice or tips on any of these I'd really appreciate it:
Custom Kernel- Franco or MKernel r69? Need to investigate
F2FS - This is probably the best shot
Custom ROM - May stay stock, but if anyone knows of a lean, limited feature bloat ROM let me know!
Lightweight Browser - Can we get the original "Browser" App to install? Other options?
Basic EMail Client - not sure about this one..
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In my experience best custom ROM is Resurrection Remix.. I tried all tilapia Lolllipop ones except AICP, which now I'm very curious to try.. but I flashed Paranoid Android 4.6 BETA 6 yesterday and I will not change it until Google releases 5.1 firmware for tilapia too and people say this build is finally smooth and nice (well, too much hope, I know.. Lollipop will never be smooth on Nexus 7 2012, I fear )
Sofar I'm about 24 hours in using SlimKat with F2F2 (followed this post here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2678142) using "Browser" that it comes with, and so far just GMail. Initial findings are very positive, it's quite fast, but I'm sure that could change.
Next steps (thanks for the ideas all!):
Install Opera
There's actually an update to SlimKat, but i'm waiting to see how the tablet performs as is without touching anything
Install and configure EMail client from Play store
Kernel - looks like this version of SK already uses the M Kernel so should be good there
There is an updated, F2FS modified version of Slimkat in that thread around page 90 or something.
I'm using that at the moment and it's been fine I guess.
Word of warning: recents menu is bugged to secondary user acounts. Only shows apps if they have been also installed for the primary user.
Yeah, I'm going to give myself a week or so on this older build and make sure it's stable before doing that. Definitely some stuff I miss from Lollipop in this, but if this is enough to breath new life into the tablet.. I'm willing to accept that loss :good:
I'm still on the fence about switching to lollipop. I know that Lollipop has ART which should make my edge run smoother and there are some additional changes with how notifications are handled on lock screen. Previously, I tried lollipop on my Note 3. I thought it was good but coming from the Tweaked rom I felt that it was still an overall downgrade. Even more so as I couldn't use Xposed. I really like Xposed modules like Unicon, SwipeBack2 and App Settings. Especially like App Settings cause it let me set up a tablet UI on some apps like mail which I prefer. Anyways, are there other features on lollipop that makes you happy you upgraded or do you feel like your Edge has turned to lollipoop?
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I'm still on the fence about switching to lollipop. I know that Lollipop has ART which should make my edge run smoother and there are some additional changes with how notifications are handled on lock screen. Previously, I tried lollipop on my Note 3. I thought it was good but coming from the Tweaked rom I felt that it was still an overall downgrade. Even more so as I couldn't use Xposed. I really like Xposed modules like Unicon, SwipeBack2 and App Settings. Especially like App Settings cause it let me set up a tablet UI on some apps like mail which I prefer. Anyways, are there other features on lollipop that makes you happy you upgraded or do you feel like your Edge has turned to lollipoop?
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LoL...Im in the same place as you Mscion. I just leaned a bit more towards doing it when I saw that Foreverloco posted a Deodexed version of Lolli but I feel same as you. I love xposed too and im not sure im ready to give it up yet. It doesn't look like xposed will work with Touchwiz any time soon either which is disappointing to say the least. A lot of my friends are saying they don't miss xposed much and don't regret going to Lolli. Maybe its time I sit down and learn to mod myself all of my favorite xposed mods if I can find the time that is. I think im going to pull the trigger today. Ill let you know my thoughts tonight after playing with Lolli for a bit. Sorry about the kernel M I never flashed I just couldn't find the time right now with my wife being sick and having to take care of the 3 rascals. Anyway im going to flash now and ill get back to you. Also cant you roll back to KK after flashing Lolli?
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LoL...Im in the same place as you Mscion. I just leaned a bit more towards doing it when I saw that Foreverloco posted a Deodexed version of Lolli but I feel same as you. I love xposed too and im not sure im ready to give it up yet. It doesn't look like xposed will work with Touchwiz any time soon either which is disappointing to say the least. A lot of my friends are saying they don't miss xposed much and don't regret going to Lolli. Maybe its time I sit down and learn to mod myself all of my favorite xposed mods if I can find the time that is. I think im going to pull the trigger today. Ill let you know my thoughts tonight after playing with Lolli for a bit. Sorry about the kernel M I never flashed I just couldn't find the time right now with my wife being sick and having to take care of the 3 rascals. Anyway im going to flash now and ill get back to you. Also cant you roll back to KK after flashing Lolli?
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No worries. Looking forward to your comments on Lollipop!
EDIT: According to folks on these threads, it looks like you can downgrade back to kk via odin if needed.
mscion said:
No worries. Looking forward to your comments on Lollipop!
EDIT: According to folks on these threads, it looks like you can downgrade back to kk via odin if needed.
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Well the only thing holding me back is the tether mod. I really need that before i update. Also i updated my daughter's s3s from Jelly Bean to LP 5.1.1 cm12.1 and i love it as do they. Very smooth and battery is much better. Tonight im doing my wifes S5 also yo 5.1.1 Cm12. I wish we had Aosp toms for our edge.
sshafranko said:
Well the only thing holding me back is the tether mod. I really need that before i update. Also i updated my daughter's s3s from Jelly Bean to LP 5.1.1 cm12.1 and i love it as do they. Very smooth and battery is much better. Tonight im doing my wifes S5 also yo 5.1.1 Cm12. I wish we had Aosp toms for our edge.
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Well, you're quite the home IT specialist! Aosp roms would definitely take care of the Xposed issue. I'm still going to wait a little till something pushes me over the edge like some combination of foreverloco's theme and custom rom. If Samsung releases its source code (I've actually requested it) and it looks like I can set SELinux=permissive in the kernel I may go ahead and update then.
Hey m.....lol trust me im far from any kind of specialist, just your run of the mill flashaholic and boy did i get my fix in last night and today. So i installed CM 10.1 on my tab, Cm 12.1/5.1.1 on my girls s3's and Cm 12.1.1/5.1.1 on my wifes s5. All 3 of them are unbeliavably happy with LP. The battery seems to be a drastic improvement especially on the s3s but still a bit earlly to judge comfortably. Now i will work on my sons N3 and update him to a CM build. Hes currently r7nning Tweaked of course. I decided to go with Aosp for them because they almost never use the TW options such as Multi windows, etc...After playing around with their phones LP really grew on me tremendously even though it was Aosp i was messimg with. I really wish there was an Aosp tom for our edge i thing i would def take that route. Anyway sry for the rant but i just stopped in to let you know that all this playing with Lollipop has swayed my decision and i will be updating my phone tonight.
Ill let you know how it goes. Wish me luck?
don't do it!!
I have had lollipop for just close to a week and everyday I see something I hate.
1. Fb notifications appear as overlays and not simple popups on the edge. This is also happening with google messenger. Now if this is a new feature that the apps themselves have implemented then I need to go back to the previous version. But as far as I can see my movies, youtube and whatever else I am doing gets covered up now. Not cool.
2.Battery life is horrid. Simply horrid. I am down an hour on standby time. More importantly, when I am at 20% or around there its lime I literally see the battery percentages tick by. No gradual anything anymore. I hate it.
3.My teathering icon in settings ig gone. Wtf?!? How do you remove that key setting completely?
There are other things but these are my top 3. Can someone direct mr to how I xan revert back to kit kat if possible. I have not rooted this phone but if I need to I will.
steve austin said:
I have had lollipop for just close to a week and everyday I see something I hate.
1. Fb notifications appear as overlays and not simple popups on the edge. This is also happening with google messenger. Now if this is a new feature that the apps themselves have implemented then I need to go back to the previous version. But as far as I can see my movies, youtube and whatever else I am doing gets covered up now. Not cool.
2.Battery life is horrid. Simply horrid. I am down an hour on standby time. More importantly, when I am at 20% or around there its lime I literally see the battery percentages tick by. No gradual anything anymore. I hate it.
3.My teathering icon in settings ig gone. Wtf?!? How do you remove that key setting completely?
There are other things but these are my top 3. Can someone direct mr to how I xan revert back to kit kat if possible. I have not rooted this phone but if I need to I will.
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No one that I can see has tried going back to KK from LP on the Note Edge as far as I have been reading in the forums. These HERE are the ODIN files you will need to revert back to KitKat. As far as people have commented, it works for a NOTE 4 which is almost identical to the Edge except for the Edge part. This is ALL BASED on the assumption you have a GALAXY NOTE EDGE AT&T SM-N915A.
The instructions are fairly simple.
*BACKUP your phone via KIES
*Download the files for KK mentioned before.
*Download ODIN
*Once backed up, place your phone in "Download Mode"
*Connect your phone via USB
*Open ODIN with Administrative rights ( you will see your phone connected under a "COM" )
*From the above KK file, you will have extracted 4 files that starts with TWO letters, "AP_" , "BL_" , "CP_" , "CSC_"
*Pick the appropriate button in ODIN to load those files according to the corresponding letters.
*Only "Auto Reboot" and "F Reset Time" should be checked.
*Once all 4 files are loaded, you can hit start.
PLEASE REVIEW A FULL YOUTUBE VIDEO TO SEE HOW OTHERS HAVE DONE IT SO IT LOOKS FAMILIAR AFTER YOU DO IT, assuming its your first time since that is what it sounded like.
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No one that I can see has tried going back to KK from LP on the Note Edge as far as I have been reading in the forums. These HERE are the ODIN files you will need to revert back to KitKat. As far as people have commented, it works for a NOTE 4 which is almost identical to the Edge except for the Edge part. This is ALL BASED on the assumption you have a GALAXY NOTE EDGE AT&T SM-N915A.
The instructions are fairly simple.
*BACKUP your phone via KIES
*Download the files for KK mentioned before.
*Download ODIN
*Once backed up, place your phone in "Download Mode"
*Connect your phone via USB
*Open ODIN with Administrative rights ( you will see your phone connected under a "COM" )
*From the above KK file, you will have extracted 4 files that starts with TWO letters, "AP_" , "BL_" , "CP_" , "CSC_"
*Pick the appropriate button in ODIN to load those files according to the corresponding letters.
*Only "Auto Reboot" and "F Reset Time" should be checked.
*Once all 4 files are loaded, you can hit start.
PLEASE REVIEW A FULL YOUTUBE VIDEO TO SEE HOW OTHERS HAVE DONE IT SO IT LOOKS FAMILIAR AFTER YOU DO IT, assuming its your first time since that is what it sounded like.
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Thanks. However, I have the tmobile usa version of the phone. From your instructions it appears that the at& t version is mandatory?
steve austin said:
Thanks. However, I have the tmobile usa version of the phone. From your instructions it appears that the at& t version is mandatory?
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Yes because the KitKat TAR file is the AT&T ROM image only
sshafranko said:
Hey m.....lol trust me im far from any kind of specialist, just your run of the mill flashaholic and boy did i get my fix in last night and today. So i installed CM 10.1 on my tab, Cm 12.1/5.1.1 on my girls s3's and Cm 12.1.1/5.1.1 on my wifes s5. All 3 of them are unbeliavably happy with LP. The battery seems to be a drastic improvement especially on the s3s but still a bit earlly to judge comfortably. Now i will work on my sons N3 and update him to a CM build. Hes currently r7nning Tweaked of course. I decided to go with Aosp for them because they almost never use the TW options such as Multi windows, etc...After playing around with their phones LP really grew on me tremendously even though it was Aosp i was messimg with. I really wish there was an Aosp tom for our edge i thing i would def take that route. Anyway sry for the rant but i just stopped in to let you know that all this playing with Lollipop has swayed my decision and i will be updating my phone tonight.
Ill let you know how it goes. Wish me luck?
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Hope it's not too little, too late, but Good Luck!
Thanks.
steve austin said:
Thanks.
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Did you try a factory reset? Some folks claim that helps with battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60678843&postcount=11
Hi,
This is to inform those who have Note Edge on TTT ( Trinidad and Tobago) with baseband N915TUBU1AOA2, that I could successfully upgrade it to Lollipop using Odin and firmware from sammobile.com. I go through following steps :
#### Everyone told me not to do that since Firmware is not design for this baseband, I did it and now phone is great with Lolli with many customization*1, you can try it on your N915T on your own risk ####
1- Download Kies, install, and make a full backup
2- Make an image of phone storage
3- Download stock firmware for roll back :
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/42583/N915TUBU1AOA2_N915TUUB1AOA2_TTT/
4- Go through procedure in
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/46754/N915TUVU1BOD7_N915TTMB1BOD7_TMB/
After upgrade, it turns to a normal USA T-Mobile unlocked Lollipop phone
I also used the same procedure to root Lollipop after that and it finished successfully.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-edge/general/easy-steps-stock-odin-n915tuvu1anjl-sm-t2943993
*1 What you will see after upgrade to Lolli on Note Edge:
Pros:
>> Not any affect on your apks, settings, files ... any settings will be mapped to new setting options. Any app not compatible will be upgrade auto before first start.
>> Many customizations on notification panel, options to disable or prioritize notifications for each APK
>> Work smoother
>> New Edge pannels
>> Upgraded apks such as new S-health, ...
>> Ext SD Card access is granted by Lollipop, each app will take a One Time permission and then can access Ext SD (setting>>System>>Security>>Apps with usage access )
>> VPNs can be created without putting Password on lock screen, also Advanced and Simple IPSec VPN types added
Cons:
>> Some functions of Edge screen is gone ! Shutter button of Camera is not on the edge anymore, Incoming calls when you are working on an app is coming on both edge and screen causing distraction to your work, some notifications are coming on Edge and also on Screen at the same time
>> Some notification windows open without background (Transparent). It happens very few times and for System notification only. I have no problem with it but it's a bug.
Simple answer from me is no Lollipop is not worth it. I pretty much lost all my signal and data. It worked when it wanted to. I went back to KK with no issues now. Let's hope 5.0.2 or 5.1 is better.
I agree that Lollipop is not worth it and in fact, has made the phone worse, not better. Here are the issues I have since I have updated.
1. Phone does not work as well. I have to wait a few seconds upon answering to say hello, because I can't be heard right away.
2. Edge night clock no longer has the weather.
3. Emails take noticeably longer to load.
4. While talking on the phone, the screen does not always turn off.
I have had the Note Edge from the first day it came out and never had any of these problems before the update.
Ok. I added a poll to give this thread a more scientific quantitative basis
Im in between.
ON one hand i like what the updates have and how some things have been themed.
but then on the other hand, I can all go buggy real fast.
I have a few apps that just hang. some that crash ever once in a while.
I fix the crashing by wiping the app data, But i still get hangs and slow downs.
So its kinda hard for me to tell because when eveything works its great and i love the update.
But when it starts getting buggy i start to thing that i should of stayed on KK.
Dont have time to get into it but i love LP compared to KK. Only major thing that bugs me is i noticed when on wifi things sometimes take a while to load. Other than than great.
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Dont have time to get into it but i love LP compared to KK. Only major thing that bugs me is i noticed when on wifi things sometimes take a while to load. Other than than great.
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Have you tried the "unofficial" Xposed yet?
Since release 2 of the N dev preview, I've really been pretty impressed with the stability and features, especially multi-windows. I seem to use that on a daily basis, either referencing 1 window while I do something on another window, or just 1/2 watching some vid while I do something else. The size of the Pixel C seems to work well with the multi windows, I have the feature on my 6P rom but don't use it anywhere as much.
The quick tiles and notifications are also decent. Usually the very 1st thing I do id unlock and root, but I've felt no need to do so. The apps I use have all worked, I know some folks had issues with some.
Also, the OTA install was also excellent, as easy as it gets.
How are you all liking N?
I'm really getting on with it, too. I think the testament to the OS is that it seems a bit more intuitive. Much like you were saying about not rooting, I don't feel the need to with the Pixel C at this point.
I also enjoy the fluidity of the OS in comparison to MM, it just seems smoother.
Does the OTA update from stock 6.0 work?
Does it still wipe all data from the tablet?
thanks
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Does the OTA update from stock 6.0 work?
Does it still wipe all data from the tablet?
thanks
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I'm wracking my brain to try and remember if it wiped my data and I just can't remember. Sorry.
Here is what I did; I signed up for the dev beta, then took the upgrade more or less like an OTA from 6.0 and it worked great! No flashing, nothing. Heck I didn't even put in a custom recovery. It took a little to download and install. I just can't remember if it asked me to restore all my apps and I said yes or it was still there.
I'm pretty sure it would say something about deleting all your data, but again I'm just not remembering. If you get it, please come back and let us know.
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I'm really getting on with it, too. I think the testament to the OS is that it seems a bit more intuitive. Much like you were saying about not rooting, I don't feel the need to with the Pixel C at this point.
I also enjoy the fluidity of the OS in comparison to MM, it just seems smoother.
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Thats a good point about the OS being as fluid as it is, very true. I can't wait to see the release version and what if anything else is added.
ghostbustaj said:
Does the OTA update from stock 6.0 work?
Does it still wipe all data from the tablet?
thanks
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The beta program wipes data completely. It is like a typical fullvwipe or in HTC terms, a RUU.
I think I didn't have a full wipe when I changed to N.
Gesendet von meinem Pixel C mit Tapatalk
ghostbustaj said:
Does the OTA update from stock 6.0 work?
Does it still wipe all data from the tablet?
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AFAIK the OTA doesn't wipe your data. Flashing via fastboot wipes. They also started releasing flashable zips beginning with Dev Prev 2, which also don't wipe. Idk if you can just flash that zip over Marshmallow.
as to the OP query, I like it a lot. I'm impressed by the options and, much more so, by the stability.
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I needed to revert because mtp file transfer didn't work. Also every time I connected the tablet on adb it was immediately forcefully shutdown and couldn't start until I plugged the cable.
Other than that, I didn't find an option to enable usb tether....but then again I didn't find this option in marshmallow (afterwards)...what the **** google?
Oh and mtp is also extremely unreliable back on marshmallow. I don't know what the **** they did with this tablet. I believe I will jump on the next tablet bandwagon if I happen to see one....
OTA to Android N is non-disruptive. The way back is.
I have many issues with Android N but cannot go back because of the full wipe.
I hoped that I will be able to use non tablet apps in the half screen mode but that does not work. I am loosing sound when disconnecting headphones. Some apps crash. You Tube cannot specify quality setting, public wifi hot spot without Internet connectivity drains battery quickly.
I regret my decision of installing Android N.
tfojta said:
OTA to Android N is non-disruptive. The way back is.
I have many issues with Android N but cannot go back because of the full wipe.
I hoped that I will be able to use non tablet apps in the half screen mode but that does not work. I am loosing sound when disconnecting headphones. Some apps crash. You Tube cannot specify quality setting, public wifi hot spot without Internet connectivity drains battery quickly.
I regret my decision of installing Android N.
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There was way too many non compatible apps for my liking with N. Firefox would always crash, widgets wouldn't work with certain apps, I'd get random freezes, the Youtube app seemed jacked kinda, and overall...I thought the tablet seems LESS responsive. I switched back to MM.
Dude, all you have to do is back up all your data to Google (you can enable it in the Backup & Restore) Drive. When you opt out of the Beta it sends you an OTA file for MM. When it uninstalls N and reinstalls MM it literally finds the fact that you reset your tablet back to MM and re-installs everything for you. It worked flawlessly for me last night. Wasn't a pain in the butt in the slightest.
Actually at the end I reverted back to Android. You are right that all apps are automatically reinstalled however they are not configured, and you loose any local data.
I'm running Android N and want to use Smart Lock, but whenever I try setting Smart Lock or a trusted device, location, etc, it says I can't utilize Smart Lock because my device is encrypted. I've never setup encryption, and I can't remove encryption either. I can't even activate OK Google from any screen, and it's all because of the encryption. Is this a mandatory feature of Android N?
Has anyone got OK Google to work on all screens and lockscreen?
Google N is good but this is a preview issue so there's a fair few bugs within, e.g. YouTube crashing, low benchmark scores, dual screen having limited functionality and random error codes when opening apps.
I've reverted to MM and the process was super simple.
I'll wait for the third iteration and see if that irons out these issues, but N is very promising and I feel it'll really help release the potential of this tablet.
I just ordered my tablet and it shipped today. I was wondering if it is worth updating to Android N right away or stick with marshmallow
Stick with mm if u seek stability
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I'm enjoying it but where is the May stability update?
It worked well for me. Only real problem I had was app compatibility. Use it as a media device, so HBO GO, Hulu, TNT, etc crashing on me led me to revert. Can't wait for N to be finalized and apps to be made compatible with split screen.
Hey there. So, after having to live with Lumia 930 for the past three years, I got drunk in a bar on Saturday and smashed the phone several times against the table pretty hard. I was telling myself for the past year (after the WP 10 update) that I will break that phone and I finally did. The display doesn't work, yet the phone boots up normally.
My last experience with Android was with LG OO (P500), and Android Froyo 2.2 in 2010/2011. I do remember some stuff, like rooting, custom recovery and flashing new ROMs. The problem is, I have no idea how far has it gotten by this point.
So I have several questions that I need to get answered. I will have the phone tommorow.
1. Should I root the phone? If so, how?
2. Should I flash a new ROM? If so, which?
3. Is there anything I should do to the phone to raise it's battery life, performance, cam quality etc. and is safe? How?
4. What are some absolutely neccessary tweaks to consider?
1. https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/official-lg-g6-bootloader-unlock-t3614719
Whether you should or should not, is up to you. What do you want to achieve by rooting/using another ROM. Depends on your needs.
2. See above. What don't you like about the current stock one? If you like stock but want more tweaks, try Fulmics. If you don't like stock try one of the Lineage ROMs. Bear in mind that phone calls via a bluetooth speaker (e.g. in car) don't work so well in current Lineage ROMs.
3. Turn stuff off, remove battery hogging apps, try another ROM or Kernel etc. Your mileage may vary though. For Camera, try one of the ported Google Cameras - You can find threads here in the G6 forums. There are loads to try and some of the latest ones are working great!
4. There are no such "absolutely neccessary tweaks". It's what you consider necessary.
I would have a look around and think about what you want. When you get your phone it's worth doing a basic setup to see what you think. If you want to unlock/flash another ROM, do it early as doing so will erase all data on the phone, so saves some pain later when having to set everything up again.
Welcome back to Android
1- you can root if you want disable ADS on your apps / or flashing v30 camera on your phone ...
2- i'm on stock rom like all most of G6 users but we have so many roms for our h870 like
Fulmics
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/development/rom-25-07-fulmics-rom-1-0-v10n-tweaks-t3642043
LineageOS
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/development/7-1-2r24-rom-lineageos-t3657486
Resurrection
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/development/rom-resurrection-remix-5-8-3-t3639293
++ https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/list-roms-guides-h870-us997-t3686766
3-for the battery follow this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/guide-best-battery-life-t3735720
you can install Google camera modded for the PORTRAIT MODE
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...-ported-g6-t3655374/post75282763#post75282763
Installing a modded Youtube app for watching videos on full screen/background playback ...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-iytbp-injected-youtube-background-t3560900
Clorky said:
Hey there. So, after having to live with Lumia 930 for the past three years, I got drunk in a bar on Saturday and smashed the phone several times against the table pretty hard. I was telling myself for the past year (after the WP 10 update) that I will break that phone and I finally did. The display doesn't work, yet the phone boots up normally.
My last experience with Android was with LG OO (P500), and Android Froyo 2.2 in 2010/2011. I do remember some stuff, like rooting, custom recovery and flashing new ROMs. The problem is, I have no idea how far has it gotten by this point.
So I have several questions that I need to get answered. I will have the phone tommorow.
1. Should I root the phone? If so, how?
2. Should I flash a new ROM? If so, which?
3. Is there anything I should do to the phone to raise it's battery life, performance, cam quality etc. and is safe? How?
4. What are some absolutely neccessary tweaks to consider?
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Please don't get me wrong, but if you don't see a reason for root and if you are really a noob.... forget it.
The phone works and you will have no problems.
L0cke said:
1. https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/official-lg-g6-bootloader-unlock-t3614719
Whether you should or should not, is up to you. What do you want to achieve by rooting/using another ROM. Depends on your needs.
2. See above. What don't you like about the current stock one? If you like stock but want more tweaks, try Fulmics. If you don't like stock try one of the Lineage ROMs. Bear in mind that phone calls via a bluetooth speaker (e.g. in car) don't work so well in current Lineage ROMs.
3. Turn stuff off, remove battery hogging apps, try another ROM or Kernel etc. Your mileage may vary though. For Camera, try one of the ported Google Cameras - You can find threads here in the G6 forums. There are loads to try and some of the latest ones are working great!
4. There are no such "absolutely neccessary tweaks". It's what you consider necessary.
I would have a look around and think about what you want. When you get your phone it's worth doing a basic setup to see what you think. If you want to unlock/flash another ROM, do it early as doing so will erase all data on the phone, so saves some pain later when having to set everything up again.
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Can I install the google cam apk without root or anything?
Clorky said:
Can I install the google cam apk without root or anything?
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Yeah, just install it like a normal apk.
Download it and open it. Make sure you uncheck Allow Install of Unknown Sources in Settings first. It might even prompt you to do it during the install.
1. The question is mostly moot, since LG doesn't even allow unlocking of bootloaders of most G6 models. Only the European H870 is supported.
2. See above. If you can root and enjoy tinkering (and blowing hours of time) and don't mind risking bricking of your phone, go ahead. Unlike in the past, rooting and custom ROMs don't allow much more than modern stock ROMs. As you can see from other's answers, the custom ROMs use a somewhat more updated version of Nougat. (Stock is a version of 7.0) Note than with some custom ROMs you might not be able to use secured apps like Netflix or banking apps.
3. Battery life is fine (although not consistent). You'll easily get a whole day unless you spend most of the day gaming. Do the usualy things to cut battery consumption if you run low. Performance is good. The camera has potential but the low light performance of the built in camera software is crappy. Its over-processed. Use a modified version of Google Camera available on these forums. (no root needed). I've had no problems with bluetooth connection to my car (Mazda).
4. No essential tweaks, but that is personal taste. The LG interface is pretty feature rich, includes theming and fonts, and offers launchers with either an Iphone-like home screen or the traditional Android screen with an app drawer and widgets. Of course you can use any launcher you want, like Google Now or Nova.
Overall I am very satisfied with the phone, especially using the modded Gcam. Some people here have complained about the lack of frequent updates, but this is a matter of expectations. The G6 is expected to get an Oreo update by June.
Enjoy!
Clorky said:
Hey there. So, after having to live with Lumia 930 for the past three years, I got drunk in a bar on Saturday and smashed the phone several times against the table pretty hard. I was telling myself for the past year (after the WP 10 update) that I will break that phone and I finally did. The display doesn't work, yet the phone boots up normally.
My last experience with Android was with LG OO (P500), and Android Froyo 2.2 in 2010/2011. I do remember some stuff, like rooting, custom recovery and flashing new ROMs. The problem is, I have no idea how far has it gotten by this point.
So I have several questions that I need to get answered. I will have the phone tommorow.
1. Should I root the phone? If so, how?
2. Should I flash a new ROM? If so, which?
3. Is there anything I should do to the phone to raise it's battery life, performance, cam quality etc. and is safe? How?
4. What are some absolutely neccessary tweaks to consider?
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So i wanted to make the Immersive mode work, it works flawlessly in almost all apps, except all Google apps.
https://imgur.com/r/lgg6/ 4QfHe
I followed this guide. The ratio changing (to 18:9) in settings is not avaiable for native apps, only installed ones. How can I fix this? It makes the google apps look really weird, especially the browser, with two black bars.
Hi,
I've been using a native android OS for years (nexus phones and the last one Oneplus 3). Recently I bought Xiaomi Mi 9T, thinking it would be similar to Oneplus 7 Pro and Im having a bad experience using it.
I cant understand why they remove useful things that Google developed to make a better user experience.
For exemple:
Notificacions are awful in MIUI.
In lockscreen I cant expand them
When the display is unlock and I got a notificacion I cant expand the notification and read it directly, I have to wait or hide the notificacion (swiping up) and then swipe down to be able to expand it and read it.....
Audio Output
In my old phone I could have different devices connected via bluetooth, for exemple, an earpods, and if I wanted to show something to a friend I could change the output sound, and choose phone speakers, however I cant do it with MUIU, I have to disconnect the device to use the speakers..... WTF
I also dont like to have all apps in the screen, however I solved that with Nova Launcher.
Anyone know how to solve the previous problems? I would love to have Oxygen OS in this phone. It would be perfect. Thanks
Unlock your bootloader and flash any of the custom ROMs available right now! (Paranoid Android beta or Mokee rom(linneage base) there is also a OxygenOS GSI (treble) I wouldn't recommend that but you can give it a shot
Yeah, TWO problems are ruining android. Lol
I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy S7 and I agree with OP. One week using the Mi 9T and the struggle is real. Notifications are really messed up in MIUI. The auto brightness doesn't work right and sometimes when I manually change brightness the slider is not updated accordingly as I increase it. Also, the sound controls are just terrible. It's not, or at least it doesn't feel like, a polished UI/UX.
Haters gonna hate. Now imagine that if you would do any tampering with the OS you would lose the warrantee... BUT Xiaomi is so generous that they even provide a bootloader unlock function for us, unlike Samsung and Apple. They would take away your freedom of development if you would wander off their closed systems, so enjoy flashing and stuff. And I would highly suggest waiting for MIUI 11 it arrives in the coming days. Miui has been the longest player in the android skin game and the first and foremost product of xiaomi.
XxXDarknessXxX said:
BUT Xiaomi is so generous that they even provide a bootloader unlock function for us.
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Unlock after 7days xD, please man, people hate miui cause this soft is ****.
Xiaomi did once questionnaire which soft people like more stock android or miui, most have chosen stock android. Xiaomi deleted this survey
XxXDarknessXxX said:
Haters gonna hate. Now imagine that if you would do any tampering with the OS you would lose the warrantee... BUT Xiaomi is so generous that they even provide a bootloader unlock function for us, unlike Samsung and Apple. They would take away your freedom of development if you would wander off their closed systems, so enjoy flashing and stuff. And I would highly suggest waiting for MIUI 11 it arrives in the coming days. Miui has been the longest player in the android skin game and the first and foremost product of xiaomi.
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you mean like on Samsung you don't have use stupid accounts and give them your info just to be able to unlock the bootloader? the fact MIUI was one of the first skinned ROMs back in froyo means nothing, it's like saying Chrysler used to make great cars 40 years ago and therefore they MUST be considered great today, no matter the fact they are pure ****e.
i sell my mi9t and i order OP7Pro, and i hope i will not regret.
first if you unlock bootloader, and to root and. magisk, you have to partitions, so anytime you want something with twrp you have to do everything from begin, and there is also one problem with OP7Pro were phone shut down by himself, power button doesnt help, just if you boot in fastboot mode power on and vol+ in same time helps.
so dont know if OP is really such good user experience, same as stock android, never have seen such poor os as stock android.
Everything on my Mi 9T works well except notifications. Unlike other people I get a lot of it. On every notification the screen turns on even in silent mode. And I can't seem to turn off group notifications for whatsapp, I turn them off and after 2 minutes they turn back on again. Other than this the phone is great.
So the only problem I have with notifications is that they are not arriving while the phone is in deep sleep mode, and that's because miui kills internet connection - I get that they are trying to save battery that way but it just doesn't make sense to me to not be able to receive notifications while your phone is sitting idle. From what I've seen miui 9 and below had an option in settings>battery&performance to disable sleep mode - is there any way to do that on miui 10?
MarkoKec said:
So the only problem I have with notifications is that they are not arriving while the phone is in deep sleep mode, and that's because miui kills internet connection - I get that they are trying to save battery that way but it just doesn't make sense to me to not be able to receive notifications while your phone is sitting idle. From what I've seen miui 9 and below had an option in settings>battery&performance to disable sleep mode - is there any way to do that on miui 10?
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In developer options, there is an option all the way down, "MIUI optimization" something like that that is on by default. You can turn that off.
You can also go to app settings and turn off battery optimization for the apps you care about like instant messaging, mail etc.
HockeyLan said:
In developer options, there is an option all the way down, "MIUI optimization" something like that that is on by default. You can turn that off.
You can also go to app settings and turn off battery optimization for the apps you care about like instant messaging, mail etc.
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Yeah already did that.. tried all options, still no luck.