[Q] Any way to get the N7 to a state where I don't want to throw it against the wall? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

OK, I know this is a pretty old tablet but I'd at least like to be able to get a smooth browsing, email, and streaming experience out of it; I'm not looking to be able to play games or multitask on it.
I'm running the latest version of lollipop and the N7 is rooted. Experiencing frequent serious intermittent lags/crashes, I mean like 60+ seconds can pass before the screen responds, apps hang, and the device occasionally will reboot itself. Other times, the tablet runs smoothly. Was hoping that update to lollipop would resolve some of this but, if anything, it's gotten worse. I've tried the usual "fixes" of clearing the cache, forcing TRIM, closing apps manually, and even did a factory reset + cleared all caches and still the problem persists. The problem seems to occur more frequently when I run apps like the Chrome browser, which I now avoid using. Not really sure if there is a decent process documented on how to troubleshoot these types of issues to find the root cause but the tablet is presently very annoying to use at best.
What I'd like is either: a) getting some help in determining what the root cause of the issue is, or b) switching to a ROM that doesn't have these problems.
Any thoughts, suggestions, or pointers to an in-depth troubleshooting article/thread?

If you find a solution, let me know.. I've tried combos of lollipop and kernels, kit Kat and kernels.. f2fs etc.. I keep mine as a docked alarm clock and ereader for bed.. but even that takes forever.
- Sent from Spaaaaaaaaace

I don't know if this will help, but I book marked it for when I update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...ndroid-5-0-t2999635/post58567333#post58567333

I gave up and went back to 4.4.4. I can FINALLY use my tablet again...

It's the flash memory in them. It's just degraded over time. I went back to 4.4.4 and it was excellent for about a week. Then it turned useless again.
That guide posted above seems to be a placebo other than the animation's being turned off. The n7 is absolutely fine after a fresh wipe, or a factory reset. For a week... I went through the guide and the only things it had that would make a real difference was animation speeds. I'll see how it does in a week.
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hi! I was having the same problem, my n7 was super laggy and sometimes rebooted itself. that was just after uprading to lollipop 5.0.2. it kinda solved after rooting, doing a factory reset and installing lollipop 5.1. I hope it helps!

4.4.4 stock with all-f2fs rom. M-kernel r69. Both can be found here on xda.
This is how I got mine running smoothly again, even after trying several lollipop roms including 5.1.
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CM12 is not doing any better, I hope 5.1 could make a difference.

Stock 5.1 + Franco kernel with /data and /cache formatted to f2fs works beautifully for me. No problems at all.

I had all the same problems (and more) you and other spoke about when (a structure that holds back water and sounds like Ham) Google hounded and hounded me to install LolliCrap 5.02 (I ignored 5.0, which somehow disappeared). I HATED my #1 Nexus 7 16GB v2012. I also have a #2 Nexus 7 32GB v2012 (running HAPPILY 4.4.4) which I am still ignoring for "ham" good reason to install 5.02, an I never will install it or the latest 5.1!!
I have been exploring reinstalling the stock 4.4.4, but first I want know how to turn OFF future Google OEM Android updates and stop the "ham" badgering that there is a "new update available. But in the mean time, want to make #1 N7 useful again, I bite the bullet, backed up everything and did a factory reset and reinstalled everything. Even though I still HATE LolliCrap, my #1 N7 16GB is running pretty snappy again though some apps absolutely DON'T LIKE LolliCrap OS and are hanging and hanging and slow and crash (lazy Devs that aren't fixing whatever is causing that with 5.x). Apps I've noticed that are horribly slow with 5.x are Outlook, Skype, Yahoo Mail, Weather Underground, Drop Box, others
So, do a full reset and reinstall after backing up your data. You're gonna lose everything anyway when you Root and Boot Unlock to install an older version of Android or a custom ROM.
Hope this helps.

Glad to see another post here on the very topic I'm looking for. I'm currently running stock 5.1, completely stock, and it's just as bad as 5.0 was. I've read up enough to realize the issue is a flaw with the device, but am going to try and devote an evening or 3 to making this thing work before I completely give up on it. My goal is a minimal, feature poor but reasonably fast device for browsing, email, and some specific apps (a game or 2 and the Harmony Remote app)
Below are the areas I'm looking at, if anyone has advice or tips on any of these I'd really appreciate it:
Custom Kernel- Franco or MKernel r69? Need to investigate
F2FS - This is probably the best shot
Custom ROM - May stay stock, but if anyone knows of a lean, limited feature bloat ROM let me know!
Lightweight Browser - Can we get the original "Browser" App to install? Other options?
Basic EMail Client - not sure about this one..

The moment I saw the thread title, I knew I was not alone on this.
I remember the behavior first started with 4.4.4 actually, refusing to turn the screen on sometimes etc. I tried CM12+f2fs+mkernel 69 and it went well for a few days, then stuff broke again. I first suspected it's a RAM issue because I have two users running, but it constantly has about 150-200MB free (counting the cached apps, 400+ otherwise).
I guess I'll try slimkat 4.4.4 + f2fs modification, hope it can get the tablet running again.

Reapman said:
Glad to see another post here on the very topic I'm looking for. I'm currently running stock 5.1, completely stock, and it's just as bad as 5.0 was. I've read up enough to realize the issue is a flaw with the device, but am going to try and devote an evening or 3 to making this thing work before I completely give up on it. My goal is a minimal, feature poor but reasonably fast device for browsing, email, and some specific apps (a game or 2 and the Harmony Remote app)
Below are the areas I'm looking at, if anyone has advice or tips on any of these I'd really appreciate it:
Custom Kernel- Franco or MKernel r69? Need to investigate
F2FS - This is probably the best shot
Custom ROM - May stay stock, but if anyone knows of a lean, limited feature bloat ROM let me know!
Lightweight Browser - Can we get the original "Browser" App to install? Other options?
Basic EMail Client - not sure about this one..
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1. For some reason Franco never boot my tablet for me...I've been using mkernel r69 and that's working really well.
2. Yep, a must.
3. Tried several custom roms and came back to stock.
4. Opera
5. Stock email, the one can be downloaded via playstore?

Rastapop with Franco kernel runs great to me. Keeping this thing alive.

VintageGuitarz said:
[...] I have been exploring reinstalling the stock 4.4.4, but first I want know how to turn OFF future Google OEM Android updates and stop the "ham" badgering that there is a "new update available [...]
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To remove the update questions you got to root the device and disable the SystemUpdateService service of Google Service Framework and Google Play Services applications (don't know, maybe only Play Service one is really required, but better block both of them).
To do that use this application http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
Reapman said:
Glad to see another post here on the very topic I'm looking for. I'm currently running stock 5.1, completely stock, and it's just as bad as 5.0 was. I've read up enough to realize the issue is a flaw with the device, but am going to try and devote an evening or 3 to making this thing work before I completely give up on it. My goal is a minimal, feature poor but reasonably fast device for browsing, email, and some specific apps (a game or 2 and the Harmony Remote app)
Below are the areas I'm looking at, if anyone has advice or tips on any of these I'd really appreciate it:
Custom Kernel- Franco or MKernel r69? Need to investigate
F2FS - This is probably the best shot
Custom ROM - May stay stock, but if anyone knows of a lean, limited feature bloat ROM let me know!
Lightweight Browser - Can we get the original "Browser" App to install? Other options?
Basic EMail Client - not sure about this one..
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In my experience best custom ROM is Resurrection Remix.. I tried all tilapia Lolllipop ones except AICP, which now I'm very curious to try.. but I flashed Paranoid Android 4.6 BETA 6 yesterday and I will not change it until Google releases 5.1 firmware for tilapia too and people say this build is finally smooth and nice (well, too much hope, I know.. Lollipop will never be smooth on Nexus 7 2012, I fear )

Sofar I'm about 24 hours in using SlimKat with F2F2 (followed this post here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2678142) using "Browser" that it comes with, and so far just GMail. Initial findings are very positive, it's quite fast, but I'm sure that could change.
Next steps (thanks for the ideas all!):
Install Opera
There's actually an update to SlimKat, but i'm waiting to see how the tablet performs as is without touching anything
Install and configure EMail client from Play store
Kernel - looks like this version of SK already uses the M Kernel so should be good there

There is an updated, F2FS modified version of Slimkat in that thread around page 90 or something.
I'm using that at the moment and it's been fine I guess.
Word of warning: recents menu is bugged to secondary user acounts. Only shows apps if they have been also installed for the primary user.

Yeah, I'm going to give myself a week or so on this older build and make sure it's stable before doing that. Definitely some stuff I miss from Lollipop in this, but if this is enough to breath new life into the tablet.. I'm willing to accept that loss :good:

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[Q] Investigating really slow Nexus 7 2012

Hi,
My Nexus 7 2012 (very first batch) is quite often behaving really slowly. It is common for the settings screen to take 15-20 seconds to open. From the homescreen. With no running app.
Here is a video after I've reset everything to factory defaults, let it run and index things on its own for an hour and then manually upgrade a small app:
At other times, the speed is pretty decent for such a tablet. I just can't figure out why this difference. I've tried to check for wakelocks, tried a logcat and many other things. I can't make any sense from it.
Rebooting the tablet seems to have 50% chance of fixing the problem. So it's probably not a memory leak.
The tablet is rooted, on the latest build and I noticed that App Ops X survived the reset but no funky software is installed and the behaviour predates the installation of App Ops X. The network is not a problem here. The 2013 Nexus 7 of my wife works just fine and so does the Nexus 5 taking the above video.
How can I investigate this ? Is there an app that can run various reliable diagnostics to find out what kind of activity is causing trouble ? I tried to use logcat but the result is quite verbose and nothing rings a bell. I would really like to understand rather than just return it and wait or, worse, buy a new device.
Thanks.
Let me know if you find a solution my Nexus 7 has been really slow, Im rooted with CM11 M6 & KK GAPPS, TWRP 2.7.0.0 I dont know what happened to this tablet.
edarchis said:
Hi,
My Nexus 7 2012 (very first batch) is quite often behaving really slowly. It is common for the settings screen to take 15-20 seconds to open. From the homescreen. With no running app.
At other times, the speed is pretty decent for such a tablet. I just can't figure out why this difference. I've tried to check for wakelocks, tried a logcat and many other things. I can't make any sense from it.
Rebooting the tablet seems to have 50% chance of fixing the problem. So it's probably not a memory leak.
The tablet is rooted, on the latest build and I noticed that App Ops X survived the reset but no funky software is installed and the behaviour predates the installation of App Ops X. The network is not a problem here. The 2013 Nexus 7 of my wife works just fine and so does the Nexus 5 taking the above video.
How can I investigate this ? Is there an app that can run various reliable diagnostics to find out what kind of activity is causing trouble ? I tried to use logcat but the result is quite verbose and nothing rings a bell. I would really like to understand rather than just return it and wait or, worse, buy a new device.
Thanks.
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droid4lif3 said:
Let me know if you find a solution my Nexus 7 has been really slow, Im rooted with CM11 M6 & KK GAPPS, TWRP 2.7.0.0 I dont know what happened to this tablet.
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Mine too. Nexus 7 2012 16GB running PA 3.99 (JB4.3). PA Kernel and GAPPS, PA launcher or whatever one came with stock PA.
It takes upwards of 10 seconds to unlock frequently, even from a fresh boot, and without any security just a simple swipe unlock.
App drawer can take 10-15 seconds to open.
If I touch too much during these lag times I will often get a launcher not responding error.
I've about given up myself and am looking at other ROMs. Before I reflash though I may try a different kernel.
I'm downloading a few right now and I'll hopefully remember to report back my results.
Mine is suddenly unbearably slow too. It's a 2012 edition and I'm not rooted, running the stock software. I've tried clearing caches (app and system), doing a factory reset, flashing the factory image, but it just runs like a dog. When I switch it on it takes a few minutes to become responsive, and apps regularly say they will take upwards of 20 minutes to download updates - small apps too, about 3MB. The download issues are nothing to do with my wifi as the tablet is slow wherever I use it, and my Nexus 5 downloads the same things in a matter of seconds. Would love to know what I could do to fix my N7. I don't want to root it or flash a custom ROM - don't want to go down that route - I just want the great performance that I had from it before.
I was having the same issues described here as well after owning the tablet for awhile, and tried every custom ROM, kernel, and android version I could find for our device along the way, in the hopes of finding a solution.
The one thing that finally helped for me, was formatting the device to use F2FS file system format on all partitions. The initial setup is a bit tedious, as you will lose ALL data on the device, so first must back up everything, then restore it all once the device has been reformatted. But the payoff has been huge for both me and my wife.
Making this switch has made both of our tablets usable again, even enjoyable! It's well worth the effort put in to make the switch.
See this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2678140, which has the modified recovery, files, and instructions needed to convert. It also helps to first make sure you can successfully use fastboot/ADB commands from your PC to the device, in case you get into any trouble along the way.
There's also an app now available for converting any rom to all-f2fs (prior to flashing), it's cheap and well worth the cost (about the price of a cup of coffee) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.runnerway.converttof2fs&hl=en.

[Q] Best choice: Cyanogenmod 12, or wait for Android 5.11?

Hello.
I enjoy my Nexus 7 2012 (Wi-Fi 32GB) tablet very much, when it is working properly and, unfortunately, that hasn't been often for some time. Android 5.02 helped a bit and the tablet is currently running 5.1 from a OTA update, which seemed to help a bit more. Android 5.1.1 has been mentioned however, I am not sure my issues will be helped by an update. For this reason, I am here to ask for advice or suggestions as to what I should do next (if anything!)
My first issue was the battery. The battery only lasts four hours per charge and since it is the original from 2012, I have ordered a new one and am awaiting its arrival. This tablet was a gift and whatever warranty it had has most likely expired so I am not concerned about invalidating a warranty. I hope that a new battery will make a big difference.
However, it is the second problem that is really annoying. The screen on my tablet freezes often, in any program and at any time. After charging the tablet, I've learned that it is best to restart the tablet to prolong the amount of time before the tablet freezes for the first time. Reading an article, for example, is a problem as I can read the first page but when it is time to slide the screen up to scroll to the next page, I am at risk of the screen freezing and it definitely freezes before page three. When typing a comment on Facebook or Twitter, etc. either they keyboard freezes while typing or if I can type the comment, the screen freezes before I can press the send key. I have other ways that are less portable to access these types of programs however, portability is the reason for a tablet. Using the tablet as a reader, I usually do not have any problems swiping page to page for usually as long as I'd like (although the swiping motion is a potential problem outside of the reading app.)
I backed up the tablet just prior to the 5.1 update and reset it to factory settings and for almost a week the difference was amazing. However, even with 5.1, the tablet is back to freezing again. Regarding the 32 GB internal storage; the actual available space after the OS is 28.17 GB and my available 23.90 GB. Due to the tablet's lack of response, I only reloaded a small number of apps and then, with the screen freezing multiple times in the four hours the battery allows, I uninstalled even more apps to get where I am now; I have never exceeded 50% at any time. In a browser, I often have more than one window open, yet it is the only program open. Sometimes, Facebook and Messenger are open at the same time but not always. If I get an incoming update, such as CNN, etc. if I open that for a few minutes, I'm risking another freeze. I am continuously aware of what programs are open and close them with the bottom square icon on my tablet. I have two frequent errors: SYSTEM UI is shutting down and the Process System is shutting down and they happen often. I am using Nova Launcher and the other Launcher on the tablet has been force stopped. I should probably note that I did the cache cleaning process two different times before I reset the tablet to factory settings.
Would going to something like the Cyanogen Mod be of assistance with this situation? There is an Official CM12 Mod available for this tablet however, the article I am referencing is from January 2015, written by Vinod Yalburgi titled, "Update Nexus 7 2012 (grouper) to Android 5.0.2 with CyanogenMod 12 official ROM." The tablet is already at 5.1 though and, as you have surmised correctly, I am not fluent in Mods of any type so I am unable to determine which mod is the best in this situation or if a mod is not going to be the right answer. I am open to rooting the tablet; the huge benefit I'd appreciate is the ease of creating a full back-up.
Is there another, more appropriate solution? My main concern is that if I wait for Lollipop 5.11, whenever that might be, it will not improve the issue with the screen freezing and I will have waited longer and ultimately gotten nowhere. Going back to KitKat 4.4 as I have read others have done is not appealing but if is the best solution . . .
Thank you for your patience with all of these details. I am hoping that with this info and all of the experience here, you can help me move in the right direction. Your time and any and all of your helpful suggestions are appreciated! This tablet can still work very well and as it was a gift, I want to make it work (on the days I do not want to hit it with a hammer!)
CShirey
I had the same freeze ups after the 5.1 update. I reset it 3 times to no avail! So I went back to KitKat 4.4.4. This lollipop is a big SUCKER, if you ask me... Google has screwed the pooch on this one.
? Take me to your Leader ?
Not the option I was hoping for but maybe the solution!
eLCruz said:
I had the same freeze ups after the 5.1 update. I reset it 3 times to no avail! So I went back to KitKat 4.4.4. This lollipop is a big SUCKER, if you ask me... Google has screwed the pooch on this one.
Take me to your Leader
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Thank you for your suggestion! Does your tablet work well with KitKat 4.4.4? Any problems with freezing and battery drain? I have continued on with my research on this trying to determine what other owners have done in a similar situation. Lots of complaints but not a lot of answers, so far!
CShirey
General surprise at the lack of helpful replies!
I am grateful for the reply I received however, I am disappointed in the general lack of interest. Whenever I come to review posts here, I see that generally, most posts receive multiple answers. I am in the right forum . . . Is my question considered to be too simple . . . or did I miss an unwritten rule? Thanks.
CShirey
Sorry, had turned notifications off and forgot. It's working smoothly on 4.4.4! Should have never updated, IMO. I believe lollipop will be Google's windows vista... Hope every thing works out.
?Here, there be Whales...?

How are you enjoying Android N? It's a great software match for the hardware.

Since release 2 of the N dev preview, I've really been pretty impressed with the stability and features, especially multi-windows. I seem to use that on a daily basis, either referencing 1 window while I do something on another window, or just 1/2 watching some vid while I do something else. The size of the Pixel C seems to work well with the multi windows, I have the feature on my 6P rom but don't use it anywhere as much.
The quick tiles and notifications are also decent. Usually the very 1st thing I do id unlock and root, but I've felt no need to do so. The apps I use have all worked, I know some folks had issues with some.
Also, the OTA install was also excellent, as easy as it gets.
How are you all liking N?
I'm really getting on with it, too. I think the testament to the OS is that it seems a bit more intuitive. Much like you were saying about not rooting, I don't feel the need to with the Pixel C at this point.
I also enjoy the fluidity of the OS in comparison to MM, it just seems smoother.
Does the OTA update from stock 6.0 work?
Does it still wipe all data from the tablet?
thanks
ghostbustaj said:
Does the OTA update from stock 6.0 work?
Does it still wipe all data from the tablet?
thanks
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I'm wracking my brain to try and remember if it wiped my data and I just can't remember. Sorry.
Here is what I did; I signed up for the dev beta, then took the upgrade more or less like an OTA from 6.0 and it worked great! No flashing, nothing. Heck I didn't even put in a custom recovery. It took a little to download and install. I just can't remember if it asked me to restore all my apps and I said yes or it was still there.
I'm pretty sure it would say something about deleting all your data, but again I'm just not remembering. If you get it, please come back and let us know.
NJ72 said:
I'm really getting on with it, too. I think the testament to the OS is that it seems a bit more intuitive. Much like you were saying about not rooting, I don't feel the need to with the Pixel C at this point.
I also enjoy the fluidity of the OS in comparison to MM, it just seems smoother.
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Thats a good point about the OS being as fluid as it is, very true. I can't wait to see the release version and what if anything else is added.
ghostbustaj said:
Does the OTA update from stock 6.0 work?
Does it still wipe all data from the tablet?
thanks
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The beta program wipes data completely. It is like a typical fullvwipe or in HTC terms, a RUU.
I think I didn't have a full wipe when I changed to N.
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ghostbustaj said:
Does the OTA update from stock 6.0 work?
Does it still wipe all data from the tablet?
thanks
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AFAIK the OTA doesn't wipe your data. Flashing via fastboot wipes. They also started releasing flashable zips beginning with Dev Prev 2, which also don't wipe. Idk if you can just flash that zip over Marshmallow.
as to the OP query, I like it a lot. I'm impressed by the options and, much more so, by the stability.
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I needed to revert because mtp file transfer didn't work. Also every time I connected the tablet on adb it was immediately forcefully shutdown and couldn't start until I plugged the cable.
Other than that, I didn't find an option to enable usb tether....but then again I didn't find this option in marshmallow (afterwards)...what the **** google?
Oh and mtp is also extremely unreliable back on marshmallow. I don't know what the **** they did with this tablet. I believe I will jump on the next tablet bandwagon if I happen to see one....
OTA to Android N is non-disruptive. The way back is.
I have many issues with Android N but cannot go back because of the full wipe.
I hoped that I will be able to use non tablet apps in the half screen mode but that does not work. I am loosing sound when disconnecting headphones. Some apps crash. You Tube cannot specify quality setting, public wifi hot spot without Internet connectivity drains battery quickly.
I regret my decision of installing Android N.
tfojta said:
OTA to Android N is non-disruptive. The way back is.
I have many issues with Android N but cannot go back because of the full wipe.
I hoped that I will be able to use non tablet apps in the half screen mode but that does not work. I am loosing sound when disconnecting headphones. Some apps crash. You Tube cannot specify quality setting, public wifi hot spot without Internet connectivity drains battery quickly.
I regret my decision of installing Android N.
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There was way too many non compatible apps for my liking with N. Firefox would always crash, widgets wouldn't work with certain apps, I'd get random freezes, the Youtube app seemed jacked kinda, and overall...I thought the tablet seems LESS responsive. I switched back to MM.
Dude, all you have to do is back up all your data to Google (you can enable it in the Backup & Restore) Drive. When you opt out of the Beta it sends you an OTA file for MM. When it uninstalls N and reinstalls MM it literally finds the fact that you reset your tablet back to MM and re-installs everything for you. It worked flawlessly for me last night. Wasn't a pain in the butt in the slightest.
Actually at the end I reverted back to Android. You are right that all apps are automatically reinstalled however they are not configured, and you loose any local data.
I'm running Android N and want to use Smart Lock, but whenever I try setting Smart Lock or a trusted device, location, etc, it says I can't utilize Smart Lock because my device is encrypted. I've never setup encryption, and I can't remove encryption either. I can't even activate OK Google from any screen, and it's all because of the encryption. Is this a mandatory feature of Android N?
Has anyone got OK Google to work on all screens and lockscreen?
Google N is good but this is a preview issue so there's a fair few bugs within, e.g. YouTube crashing, low benchmark scores, dual screen having limited functionality and random error codes when opening apps.
I've reverted to MM and the process was super simple.
I'll wait for the third iteration and see if that irons out these issues, but N is very promising and I feel it'll really help release the potential of this tablet.
I just ordered my tablet and it shipped today. I was wondering if it is worth updating to Android N right away or stick with marshmallow
Stick with mm if u seek stability
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I'm enjoying it but where is the May stability update?
It worked well for me. Only real problem I had was app compatibility. Use it as a media device, so HBO GO, Hulu, TNT, etc crashing on me led me to revert. Can't wait for N to be finalized and apps to be made compatible with split screen.

I am a noob, I need some help with LG G6 H870

Hey there. So, after having to live with Lumia 930 for the past three years, I got drunk in a bar on Saturday and smashed the phone several times against the table pretty hard. I was telling myself for the past year (after the WP 10 update) that I will break that phone and I finally did. The display doesn't work, yet the phone boots up normally.
My last experience with Android was with LG OO (P500), and Android Froyo 2.2 in 2010/2011. I do remember some stuff, like rooting, custom recovery and flashing new ROMs. The problem is, I have no idea how far has it gotten by this point.
So I have several questions that I need to get answered. I will have the phone tommorow.
1. Should I root the phone? If so, how?
2. Should I flash a new ROM? If so, which?
3. Is there anything I should do to the phone to raise it's battery life, performance, cam quality etc. and is safe? How?
4. What are some absolutely neccessary tweaks to consider?
1. https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/official-lg-g6-bootloader-unlock-t3614719
Whether you should or should not, is up to you. What do you want to achieve by rooting/using another ROM. Depends on your needs.
2. See above. What don't you like about the current stock one? If you like stock but want more tweaks, try Fulmics. If you don't like stock try one of the Lineage ROMs. Bear in mind that phone calls via a bluetooth speaker (e.g. in car) don't work so well in current Lineage ROMs.
3. Turn stuff off, remove battery hogging apps, try another ROM or Kernel etc. Your mileage may vary though. For Camera, try one of the ported Google Cameras - You can find threads here in the G6 forums. There are loads to try and some of the latest ones are working great!
4. There are no such "absolutely neccessary tweaks". It's what you consider necessary.
I would have a look around and think about what you want. When you get your phone it's worth doing a basic setup to see what you think. If you want to unlock/flash another ROM, do it early as doing so will erase all data on the phone, so saves some pain later when having to set everything up again.
Welcome back to Android
1- you can root if you want disable ADS on your apps / or flashing v30 camera on your phone ...
2- i'm on stock rom like all most of G6 users but we have so many roms for our h870 like
Fulmics
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/development/rom-25-07-fulmics-rom-1-0-v10n-tweaks-t3642043
LineageOS
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/development/7-1-2r24-rom-lineageos-t3657486
Resurrection
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/development/rom-resurrection-remix-5-8-3-t3639293
++ https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/list-roms-guides-h870-us997-t3686766
3-for the battery follow this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/guide-best-battery-life-t3735720
you can install Google camera modded for the PORTRAIT MODE
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...-ported-g6-t3655374/post75282763#post75282763
Installing a modded Youtube app for watching videos on full screen/background playback ...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-iytbp-injected-youtube-background-t3560900
Clorky said:
Hey there. So, after having to live with Lumia 930 for the past three years, I got drunk in a bar on Saturday and smashed the phone several times against the table pretty hard. I was telling myself for the past year (after the WP 10 update) that I will break that phone and I finally did. The display doesn't work, yet the phone boots up normally.
My last experience with Android was with LG OO (P500), and Android Froyo 2.2 in 2010/2011. I do remember some stuff, like rooting, custom recovery and flashing new ROMs. The problem is, I have no idea how far has it gotten by this point.
So I have several questions that I need to get answered. I will have the phone tommorow.
1. Should I root the phone? If so, how?
2. Should I flash a new ROM? If so, which?
3. Is there anything I should do to the phone to raise it's battery life, performance, cam quality etc. and is safe? How?
4. What are some absolutely neccessary tweaks to consider?
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Please don't get me wrong, but if you don't see a reason for root and if you are really a noob.... forget it.
The phone works and you will have no problems.
L0cke said:
1. https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/official-lg-g6-bootloader-unlock-t3614719
Whether you should or should not, is up to you. What do you want to achieve by rooting/using another ROM. Depends on your needs.
2. See above. What don't you like about the current stock one? If you like stock but want more tweaks, try Fulmics. If you don't like stock try one of the Lineage ROMs. Bear in mind that phone calls via a bluetooth speaker (e.g. in car) don't work so well in current Lineage ROMs.
3. Turn stuff off, remove battery hogging apps, try another ROM or Kernel etc. Your mileage may vary though. For Camera, try one of the ported Google Cameras - You can find threads here in the G6 forums. There are loads to try and some of the latest ones are working great!
4. There are no such "absolutely neccessary tweaks". It's what you consider necessary.
I would have a look around and think about what you want. When you get your phone it's worth doing a basic setup to see what you think. If you want to unlock/flash another ROM, do it early as doing so will erase all data on the phone, so saves some pain later when having to set everything up again.
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Can I install the google cam apk without root or anything?
Clorky said:
Can I install the google cam apk without root or anything?
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Yeah, just install it like a normal apk.
Download it and open it. Make sure you uncheck Allow Install of Unknown Sources in Settings first. It might even prompt you to do it during the install.
1. The question is mostly moot, since LG doesn't even allow unlocking of bootloaders of most G6 models. Only the European H870 is supported.
2. See above. If you can root and enjoy tinkering (and blowing hours of time) and don't mind risking bricking of your phone, go ahead. Unlike in the past, rooting and custom ROMs don't allow much more than modern stock ROMs. As you can see from other's answers, the custom ROMs use a somewhat more updated version of Nougat. (Stock is a version of 7.0) Note than with some custom ROMs you might not be able to use secured apps like Netflix or banking apps.
3. Battery life is fine (although not consistent). You'll easily get a whole day unless you spend most of the day gaming. Do the usualy things to cut battery consumption if you run low. Performance is good. The camera has potential but the low light performance of the built in camera software is crappy. Its over-processed. Use a modified version of Google Camera available on these forums. (no root needed). I've had no problems with bluetooth connection to my car (Mazda).
4. No essential tweaks, but that is personal taste. The LG interface is pretty feature rich, includes theming and fonts, and offers launchers with either an Iphone-like home screen or the traditional Android screen with an app drawer and widgets. Of course you can use any launcher you want, like Google Now or Nova.
Overall I am very satisfied with the phone, especially using the modded Gcam. Some people here have complained about the lack of frequent updates, but this is a matter of expectations. The G6 is expected to get an Oreo update by June.
Enjoy!
Clorky said:
Hey there. So, after having to live with Lumia 930 for the past three years, I got drunk in a bar on Saturday and smashed the phone several times against the table pretty hard. I was telling myself for the past year (after the WP 10 update) that I will break that phone and I finally did. The display doesn't work, yet the phone boots up normally.
My last experience with Android was with LG OO (P500), and Android Froyo 2.2 in 2010/2011. I do remember some stuff, like rooting, custom recovery and flashing new ROMs. The problem is, I have no idea how far has it gotten by this point.
So I have several questions that I need to get answered. I will have the phone tommorow.
1. Should I root the phone? If so, how?
2. Should I flash a new ROM? If so, which?
3. Is there anything I should do to the phone to raise it's battery life, performance, cam quality etc. and is safe? How?
4. What are some absolutely neccessary tweaks to consider?
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So i wanted to make the Immersive mode work, it works flawlessly in almost all apps, except all Google apps.
https://imgur.com/r/lgg6/ 4QfHe
I followed this guide. The ratio changing (to 18:9) in settings is not avaiable for native apps, only installed ones. How can I fix this? It makes the google apps look really weird, especially the browser, with two black bars.

Anybody still in here?

So I just (possibly stupidly) picked up a mint Thrive 10" from my local Goodwill for $17. All I really need it for is a basic shop tablet to use in the garage for playing music, and pulling up how-to's (youtube/etc), service manuals, etc.
The problem I'm running into is threefold:
1. There are multiple resources I'm finding that absolutely won't work on anything older than ICS. Youtube is one. Not any version of app, browser, nothing. And the highest Android version the Toshiba servers will give me is 3.2.1, not even ICS. Which isn't surprising after hearing that release was notoriously troublesome, I suspect maybe they pulled it down(?)
2. The vast majority of links and/or development projects I'm finding are long dead/abandoned.
3. Also, I'm admittedly a bit of a noob when it comes to rooting/flashing/etc Android devices
If at all possible, I'd like to skip ICS altogether and go straight to JB.
I found this walkthrough, but links are all dead --> https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-12-flashable-zip-works-with-any-rom.1918679/
I also snooped around pio's github, but struggling to make heads or tails of everything there.
Can anyone give me a hand?
Welcome!
I was an early adopter, and was pretty active on the original Thrive forum. A few months ago Tune In stopped working, and I found this forum. For me, I use it for streaming internet radio.
I found this post particularly helpful, with an updated list of apps that work - https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/toshiba-thrive-apk-pack-4-0-4-updated-for-2022.4408151/
Spotify still works for me...but I got an e-mail from them saying support would end in a few weeks (mid January 2023).
Since Tune In app stopped I was able to use the links to load working versions of Firefox - then go to fmstream.org and pull up some of my favorite radio stations which play through VLC
A couple apps not on the list that still work are Radio Box (WXPN works!) and Radar Express
Many, many years after my original purchase I found a dock pretty cheap, so it sits on a bookcase near the stereo, where it's hooked up.
Look, it's even cheaper now! https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-PA3934U-1PRP-Thrive-Multi-Dock-Tablet/dp/B004YIFOP0
(Edit: I just remembered why I got the dock - these had particularly wonky audio input connections, the dock solves this since it has it's own Audio output).
At the very least, for $17, the screen saver clock is nice!
@BPD99 thanks for the reply and the links, particularly the dock on Amazon. Already have one on the way!
I've unfortunately realized that my Thrive is suffering from what I suspect to be system level issues.... Like memory not releasing, index files not clearing, etc. There are several apps cumulatively retaining artifacts despite me clearing app cache and data, etc. I've already done multiple factory resets but the issues keep re-emerging. I think my only option to resolve these issues is to wipe it and start over, but I'm not 100% on the procedure step by step without bricking it. Also, I'm debating whether I'd ideally want to stick with the stock 3.2.1 image, or try to figure out if I could get pio's 4.1.2 image on it. Can anybody walk me through either way?
I wish I remembered how to install a ROM - I did find this, looks like basic instructions are similar from what I remember:
Root - [ROM] DaleNet HTK55D.31.5.0003 OOM Rooted ROM (US HC 3.2.1)
[ROM] DaleNet HTK55D.31.5.0003 OOM Rooted ROM (US HC 3.2.1) Thrive HTK55D.31.5.0003 OOM Rooted ROM - This is a US based ROM This release of DaleNet HTK55D.31.5.0003 OOM Rooted ROM is basicaly a stock ROM, but I did add fastboot back into the recovery menu and added ClockWorkMod. The Out Of...
androidforums.com
Rooting and flashing new ROM used to involve connected to PC, I think I remember using the SD card the last time I flashed a ROM.
I had issues with my Thrive after 5-6 years of daily use, then it wouldn't boot. I bought the same device on eBay, but with a broken screen and changed out the brains (I can't remember which part exactly...maybe I need a new brain!).
The dock is great, since I retired mine from business use, that's where it sits.
Do you play guitar? There are still some chord/tab apps on the play store that work.
I also have "MyRemote for Android" set up to operate Windows Media Center (if you want to go further back to 2010!) - https://sites.google.com/site/myremoteandroid/
myRemote APK for Android Download
myRemote 1.10 APK download for Android. Simply the best remote control for Windows Media Center
m.apkpure.com
Enjoy
FYI - I'm currently running IMM76D.01.000072314 (DaleNet DeOdexed Rooted)
DaleNet-Thrive_10-IMM76D.01.000072314-Deodexed_Stock_Rooted_ROM-v2.1.1.zip | ROM by pio_masaki for Iconia A100
DaleNet IMM76D.01.000072314 Deodexed Stock Rooted ROM (US ICS 4.0.4) Please follow installation instructions here: http://www.thriveforums.org/forum/dalepl/13661-rom-dalenet-imm76d-01-000072314-deodexed-stock-rooted-rom-us-ics-4-0-4-a.html
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Just wanted to drop an update- I was able to piece together enough old links, file resources and tools/utilities that I was able to get this thing rooted, custom recovery and rom installed. It is now running JellyBean glitch free and faster than ever. So for anyone looking to accomplish this on one of these it is still possible
I'd say the only issue I have now is that the rom I got doesn't have a file manager. Anybody who can chime in with a suggestion please do
Congrats!
Total Commander?
It still works on 4.0.4, so might be worth a try.

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