Heip with G5 plus non-rooted phone with unlocked bootloader running August 2018 8.1 - Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers

Hello,
I've just bought a second-hand moto G5 Plus that had a custom rom installed on it, I'm guessing it was also rooted at some point. It currently has the Aug 1 2018 version of 8.1:
build #: OPS28.85-13
It's been a while since I've messed about with flashing phones, so I wanted to ask for some assistance before potentially bricking the poor thing.
Ideally, I'd like to get it back on the stock update channel, so it can get OTA updates, but with root -- if that's not possible, I'd be almost as happy to just flash a Sept 1 2018 build (which my other 100% stock G5 plus already has) and root it. I've looked at a few posts here, notably this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...o-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-coming-t3830482
Though not knowing the exact history of the device, I'm reluctant to just follow the instructions. Can anyone provide some insight as to the safe(st) procedure?
Thanks!
-pir

You can't have root and receive updates from official channel at the same time.. the bootloader need to be locked to recieve updates.. you can however flash twrp on the device.. flash the stock rom( you will find latest in the forums).. and when the updates come out someone will capture it and make a flashabe zip, so you just need to flash that.. you can have root that way and stay updated.. cause from what I've read so far you don't get OTA when you're bootloader is unlocked..

That makes sense. So I guess the moto software won't even attempt an update if the bootloader is unlocked? Thanks!

Unlocked bootloader won't make any difference. The OTA update checks the system files and bootloader. If you have made any modifications to the system, kernel, or are running an older bootloader version the update will fail. Lock status of the bootloader makes no difference.
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Amazon XT1625 - Software status: modified

Hello, I am running stock image, unrooted, locked.. at one point I tried flashing the Nougat update from the Indian release but it failed with an error. I had no problems, wasn't bricked or anything, just wasn't able to install.
I now see it says software status modified and am wondering:
1. will this affect my ability to get the OTA update? I'm seeing people are getting the update but I don't have it available yet. I know it's rolling out in waves but I'm worried I might not be eligible even when it does reach.
2. How can I restore it to say not modified? I thought maybe flashing the stock image but I can't find the stock Amazon images. On the Moto website under relock instructions the XT1625 shows up with a .64 firmware but since I have the amz variant I don't know if that will work?
Any advise appreciated
Well won't you believe, I am now downloading official Nougat. modified software status doesn't affect it. phew!
Thanks for posting. I decided to check for an update on my non Amazon version and there was an update waiting. ?
I was on 139-48
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HELP, Can I downgrade to Stock Marshmallow and Upgrade to Nougat?

Hello,
Can I downgrade completly with the bootloader on Marshmallow and then upgrade to Nougat?
I want to lock my bootloader.
My G2 bricked after doing this. But I don't know if this would happen to my G4 Plus again
inFiniTyz_Z said:
Hello,
Can I downgrade completly with the bootloader on Marshmallow and then upgrade to Nougat?
I want to lock my bootloader.
My G2 bricked after doing this. But I don't know if this would happen to my G4 Plus again
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If you wish to simply re-lock your bootloader, the easiest thing is to flash this fastboot stock ROM (which is Nougat) and use the locking script as directed in the first post. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369 Of course, this may wipe your data - so back up, and the relocking may or may not work, in which case you may have to wait for a more up to date fastboot stock ROM to become available.
If you were to downgrade to Marshmallow, you cannot downgrade your bootloader and GPT partitions, at best, your existing bootloader would try to prevent you from downgrading those partitions. At worst, you'll brick your device again if you were to flash those - though we've got possible ways of fixing that, it's not a route I'd want to go down. Flashing the rest of Marshmallow is no problem, however, ensure you have the correct MM firmware for your device and territory.
Will this version work for my country(Germany) without OTA trouble?
inFiniTyz_Z said:
Will this version work for my country(Germany) without OTA trouble?
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Should be okay to flash - the 93-14 build appears to be the global build that was deployed by Motorola, and should be eligible for the 93-14.4 (March 2017 security update) whenever that arrives in the EU/UK I've flashed the stock ROM onto my XT1642 several times without issue.
echo92 said:
Should be okay to flash - the 93-14 build appears to be the global build that was deployed by Motorola, and should be eligible for the 93-14.4 (March 2017 security update) whenever that arrives in the EU/UK I've flashed the stock ROM onto my XT1642 several times without issue.
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THANK YOU IT WORKED AND THE WARNING DISAPPEARED. I am on Nougat, locked and its working like a charm
I WOULD KISS YOUR BUTT IF ITS HAVE TO BE

Unlocked Amazon XT1625 to retail firmware?

So, I have a 32gb Amazon-variant XT1625 on MPJ24.139-48 with an unlocked bootloader and root. I want to update to Nougat, but it's looking like setting up to take the Amazon update is going to be a fair amount of effort; I'm wondering if it's possible to just flash the retail version of Nougat since it's looking like I'm going to have to go to a fair sum of effort anyway.
I've also heard that Moto G4 Plus ROMs will work on the G4, but I don't know the specifics on that.
i dont see why not as long as you already unlocked the bootloader prior to Moto(Lenovo) disallowed unlocking of amazon varients of the g4. heres a link to the stock nougat firmware
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298955218
I flashed -64 retus software on mine and it immediately had two nougat updates afterwards. Still waiting for one that fixes the aboot sector vulnerability too but never know when that may come
Travisholt92 said:
I flashed -64 retus software on mine and it immediately had two nougat updates afterwards. Still waiting for one that fixes the aboot sector vulnerability too but never know when that may come
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then you was able to flash retail version in a amazon prime phone? I have one and it dont boot if i instal a retail version.
di anybody actually get this working? I had the same issue as @iurd2007 I was able to unlock the bootloader just fine. The flash appeared to have taken successfully. But it just gets caught in a boot loop when trying to reboot the system after the flash. I followed the instructions here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
okay, so i've tried various roms both official and unofficial, as well as even the stock Nougat and Oreo flashable roms found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/development/rom-oreo-8-1-0-soak-test-t3873367
So far, the only ROM i've been able to get installed is omni rom 9, but it keeps crashing several apps over and over on the setup wizard. I've read somewhere that using a different version of TWRP recovery image might help. I've tried the official TWRP recovery from twrp.me, the patched arm64 version found here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tw...3-r1-athene-arm64_rajatgupta1998.img/download , also the latest version patched for efs backup/restore here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=29106#downloads. So far the the one that seems to work the best is the third version of TWRP. It would be nice if all these custom patches made it back into an official release, but it's probably asking a lot of a phone that is almost 4 years old at this point. and a budget friendly phone at that.

[Help Needed] A Fresh Idea to Get Root

Hello XDA community,
This is my first post on here and I hope I'm not doing something wrong in terms of protocol, but I have a rough idea on finding a root for this phone that needs support and refining from you guys, the XDA community.
My idea is this: If we can find a way to downgrade the phone software back to before the December 2016 security patch, we can run a Dirty Cow root exploit (, which is ready to go on GitHub, ) to temp root this device (or any device, in theory). Once we have temp root, we could run a program like SunShine or whatever else to turn that temp root to perm root. (SunShine currently says that, to full root this device, it needs some kind of temp root.)
Now going back to the first part about downgrading the software to before the December 2016 security update, I initially thought we could achieve this through mfastboot or RSD Lite, since they allow flashing of officially signed Motorola firmwares. However, I read that when upgrading the Moto Z, and presumably all other variants, from Android MM to Android N, the (locked) bootloader is updated, too, and will not allow downgrading, resulting in a prevalidaton error. This is where I need your help.
The question is: How can we downgrade the firmware back to MM, or some other before-December firmware, to use Dirty Cow for root. Please leave ANY suggestions in the comments.
Thank you for your time and help. I have faith that we will be able to solve this together.
I don't think you can downgrade. But i've been running this for the past 9 or so months to prevent the forced updates: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/themes/app-moto-z-play-apps-stop-ota-motocare-t3538812
(no idea if that would work on the z force)
Well I know there are many videos on YouTube claiming to downgrade certain Moto devices through RSD Lite or mfastboot for different budget Moto devices, but I suspect they are all fake. Nonetheless, I hope there is a legitimate way to downgrade.
I forgot to mention that if you can get a replacement Moto Z Force from Verizon, which is very easy to do in my area, they ship you a refurbished replacement, which runs marshmallow and has no updates installed, but I don't have the opportunity to get another replacement, so for anyone else, that's one way you could "downgrade" and try Dirty Cow to root the device.
I'm just going by this topic https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/dont-upgrade-to-nougat-ota-t3524456
but i don't really know for sure
Wow. Now I wish I'd known about this MUCH sooner. Its too late for me. Well, in that case, try to see if you can revert back to marshmallow if you unofficially upgraded to nougat and check what month of security patches you are on. If it's before the December 2016 security patch, then you can run Dirty Cow and get temporary root. With temp root you can most likely find a way to make it permanent root.

Root, unlock, s-off VZW HTC 10 after OREO OTA

Hi,
I have a stock HTC 10 running Nougat right now. It is not bootloader unlocked, rooted, or s-off yet. I plan on sending it in to sunshine soon. However, I just got the OTA notification for OREO. I am afraid to install it, since I don't don't want to ruin the possibility of me getting s-off and root. Does anyone know if the Oreo OTA affects the paths to root or s-off? Should I avoid it until after I'm s-off? Is there a chance that the OTA will actually make root/s-off easier? Has anyone tested that yet?
Sooner is always smarter than later. Sounds like a question for the sunshine team.
http://theroot.ninja/
This is what it says for the latest version:
SunShine is our bootloader unlock/s-off tool for Motorola and HTC phones. We currently support most HTC phones, and Droid Turbo, Moto X (2014), Moto X (2013), MotoG (2013) and Droid Maxx/Mini/Ultra on Android 4.4.3 and lower. All modern HTC devices (m9 m7 m8 e8 Mini2 remix dna etc) devices are supported up to 7.1.1, as long as they are rootable. SunShine can work without pre-rooting all 4.4.3 and below devices, and some 4.4.4 and 5.x devices. Some 5.0 and above users will have to root with HTCDev.com. Verizon M7 5.0.x users will have to temp root with the Kingroot app. DROID TURBO 2 IS NOT SUPPORTED
Yea they don't say anything about Oreo, though. Guess we'll have to wait until someone is brave enough to try it
deke997 said:
Yea they don't say anything about Oreo, though. Guess we'll have to wait until someone is brave enough to try it
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My recollection is that anything past Marshmallow on the Verizon 10 and you're in mail-in territory. I can't imagine that Oreo somehow cures that.
I was on Sunshine IRC with a similar question. I bought a refurbished 10 on N and asked if I should take the O OTAs or mail it as is for unlock. The response I got is that it didn't make a difference, and that I could send it either way.
Shipped mine as was. N August 2017 update .23
Flashed the latest firmware from here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70340070&postcount=2
This one >> 3.18.605.13 Combined Firmware with stock boot.img and stock recovery removed(will NOT wipe)
Used TWRP (installed to my device with SS mail unlock service) to install the latest Oreo OS (OP prior link) with options as suggested here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76271053&postcount=624
All is well.

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