Root, unlock, s-off VZW HTC 10 after OREO OTA - Verizon HTC 10 Questions & Answers

Hi,
I have a stock HTC 10 running Nougat right now. It is not bootloader unlocked, rooted, or s-off yet. I plan on sending it in to sunshine soon. However, I just got the OTA notification for OREO. I am afraid to install it, since I don't don't want to ruin the possibility of me getting s-off and root. Does anyone know if the Oreo OTA affects the paths to root or s-off? Should I avoid it until after I'm s-off? Is there a chance that the OTA will actually make root/s-off easier? Has anyone tested that yet?

Sooner is always smarter than later. Sounds like a question for the sunshine team.
http://theroot.ninja/
This is what it says for the latest version:
SunShine is our bootloader unlock/s-off tool for Motorola and HTC phones. We currently support most HTC phones, and Droid Turbo, Moto X (2014), Moto X (2013), MotoG (2013) and Droid Maxx/Mini/Ultra on Android 4.4.3 and lower. All modern HTC devices (m9 m7 m8 e8 Mini2 remix dna etc) devices are supported up to 7.1.1, as long as they are rootable. SunShine can work without pre-rooting all 4.4.3 and below devices, and some 4.4.4 and 5.x devices. Some 5.0 and above users will have to root with HTCDev.com. Verizon M7 5.0.x users will have to temp root with the Kingroot app. DROID TURBO 2 IS NOT SUPPORTED

Yea they don't say anything about Oreo, though. Guess we'll have to wait until someone is brave enough to try it

deke997 said:
Yea they don't say anything about Oreo, though. Guess we'll have to wait until someone is brave enough to try it
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My recollection is that anything past Marshmallow on the Verizon 10 and you're in mail-in territory. I can't imagine that Oreo somehow cures that.

I was on Sunshine IRC with a similar question. I bought a refurbished 10 on N and asked if I should take the O OTAs or mail it as is for unlock. The response I got is that it didn't make a difference, and that I could send it either way.

Shipped mine as was. N August 2017 update .23
Flashed the latest firmware from here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70340070&postcount=2
This one >> 3.18.605.13 Combined Firmware with stock boot.img and stock recovery removed(will NOT wipe)
Used TWRP (installed to my device with SS mail unlock service) to install the latest Oreo OS (OP prior link) with options as suggested here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76271053&postcount=624
All is well.

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International Moto Maxx 5.1 official update (Non Droid Turbo)

Ok, I know what you're thinking, 5.1 thread, again???? No it's not.
This is for Non Droid Turbo devices, non US Verizon. So Moto Maxx, Latin America devices such as the XT1225
I am currently on official 4.4.4 and I have already opt in for the Moto Feedback Network, so I should get the Soak test update when available.
So let's keep this threat updated about 5.1 updates for our international Droid Turbo variants.
And by the way here are the DROID TURBO - Android™ 5.1 Lollipop - Release Notes
Kiwironic said:
Ok, I know what you're thinking, 5.1 thread, again???? No it's not.
This is for Non Droid Turbo devices, non US Verizon. So Moto Maxx, Latin America devices such as the XT1225
I am currently on official 4.4.4 and I have already opt in for the Moto Feedback Network, so I should get the Soak test update when available.
So let's keep this threat updated about 5.1 updates for our international Droid Turbo variants.
And by the way here are the DROID TURBO - Android™ 5.1 Lollipop - Release Notes
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Did you receive the survey or something? Or are you just being proactive and already creating a topic for when it happens?
Proactive mate, I have already singed up for the program and waiting for the soak for the international version.
Here we can follow updates about different variants of the phone (except for the main Droid turbo USA branch), who gets Soak, or official and news regarding that. I am using a PR XT1225, stock firmware and unrooted sadly due to corporate software.
This is the thread I need...waiting like you. I know we could root and stick L on it, but I want to see what develops first (and KK has been fine for me). But hopefully something will develop soon.
GeodudeFFP said:
This is the thread I need...waiting like you. I know we could root and stick L on it, but I want to see what develops first (and KK has been fine for me). But hopefully something will develop soon.
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You're lucky you have that option, I don't as I have to use corporate software and cannot be rooted (let's not start talking about root cloaking etc as it didn't work for me)
Let's keep this alive with updates and share stories and we should be fine, I am assuming since Droid US has got 5.1 it won't be far for us. I would give it a month or two.
People keep saying that Droid turbo and Moto Maxx are left behind but the reality is, we are getting the 5.1 update at the same time as the Moto X so we should use the Moto X as an indicator. I think once Moto X (international version) gets the official 5.1 update (currently in Soak testing as the Droid Turbo) we will get it as well.
I think some people won't even have to wait. Tomorrow Motorola will release a downloadable file of Droid Turbo 5.1 for use with RSD lite, and since the Droid Turbo KK worked on Moto Maxx (since it's bootloader can be unlocked), I'm betting this one will too, but with some adjustments (like no flashing the rádio partition/flashing the intl rádio partition afterwards)
That might work, but I won't risk it. I would wait for the official OTA, I have already returned 100% stock. I would have totally gone for it if I didn't have my work apps complications.
Kiwironic said:
That might work, but I won't risk it. I would wait for the official OTA, I have already returned 100% stock. I would have totally gone for it if I didn't have my work apps complications.
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The apps are a problem indeed. I'll wait for the oficial release, then go backup to KK, restore my stuff with titanium and update.
DarkLey said:
The apps are a problem indeed. I'll wait for the oficial release, then go backup to KK, restore my stuff with titanium and update.
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Titanium no go bro, remember I don't have root anymore. :crying: :crying:
Kiwironic said:
Titanium no go bro, remember I don't have root anymore. :crying: :crying:
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I do remember, for you it's really a no go if you want/have to keep the apps/data. Rootjunkysdl already have the OTA file, I'm backing up now to test my hypothesis.
Well I can justify asking for a new access code for my corporate apps after full wipe, but if something goes wrong with root / backup or installing the OTA as Zip my device will be banned. Can't take that risk. So I will have to wait for official or Soak OTA.
But please let us know how that goes for you. Which device do you have? is it a PR XT1225 ?
Kiwironic said:
Well I can justify asking for a new access code for my corporate apps after full wipe, but if something goes wrong with root / backup or installing the OTA as Zip my device will be banned. Can't take that risk. So I will have to wait for official or Soak OTA.
But please let us know how that goes for you. Which device do you have? is it a PR XT1225 ?
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BR XT1225. One time I flashed the 4.4 Stock ROM for the Turbo in my device and it worked allright, and since this time I will just do the same then update, I think it'll work the same. Still backing up (a lot of data here).
Keep us updated mate.
Here are some news:
http://www.tudocelular.com/android/noticias/n56970/droid-turbo-moto-maxx-android-5-1-lollipop.html
How did it go??
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How did it go??
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I haven't tried everything yet because I'm restoring my phone from a hardbrick.
My tries and findings so far:
First hypothesis) Flash KK service ROM KDF21. Directly: I knew it wouldn't work from the begining, since the frequencies for the radio cell are different, but tried anyway. Managed to update to Lollipop (KK -> KK VoLTE -> KK something -> OTA Lollipop) but without cell signal it's useless
Second hypothesis) Flash radio partition from RETBR Lollipop over Droid Turbo Lollipop OTA: didn't work too, don't know exactly the reason.
Third hypothesis) Flash Droid Turbo KK over RETBR KK, BUT without the radio partition, then update: worked till I tried to update (somebody already posted that flashing Droid Turbo KK without flashing radio over RETBR KK works). The system won't update probably because the VoLTE/Advanced Calling update needs to modify radio and finds a different radio partition.
Fourth hypothesis) To be tested yet ---- Update Droid Turbo KK to the latest (after VoLTE), flash radio partition from RETBR KK, then update with Droid Turbo LP OTA: haven't tried this yet because when I was flashing RETBR KK again I bumped at the cable and it was already faulty, so I have to unbrick my device to try again and I'm gathering the stuff to do that (no tutorial available, maybe I'll put something together sometime)
Edit: nvm, found this just a couple threads below: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/turbo-unbrick-t3139811
DarkLey said:
I haven't tried everything yet because I'm restoring my phone from a hardbrick.
My tries and findings so far:
First hypothesis) Flash KK service ROM KDF21. Directly: I knew it wouldn't work from the begining, since the frequencies for the radio cell are different, but tried anyway. Managed to update to Lollipop (KK -> KK VoLTE -> KK something -> OTA Lollipop) but without cell signal it's useless
Second hypothesis) Flash radio partition from RETBR Lollipop over Droid Turbo Lollipop OTA: didn't work too, don't know exactly the reason.
Third hypothesis) Flash Droid Turbo KK over RETBR KK, BUT without the radio partition, then update: worked till I tried to update (somebody already posted that flashing Droid Turbo KK without flashing radio over RETBR KK works). The system won't update probably because the VoLTE/Advanced Calling update needs to modify radio and finds a different radio partition.
Fourth hypothesis) To be tested yet ---- Update Droid Turbo KK to the latest (after VoLTE), flash radio partition from RETBR KK, then update with Droid Turbo LP OTA: haven't tried this yet because when I was flashing RETBR KK again I bumped at the cable and it was already faulty, so I have to unbrick my device to try again and I'm gathering the stuff to do that (no tutorial available, maybe I'll put something together sometime)
Edit: nvm, found this just a couple threads below: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/turbo-unbrick-t3139811
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:fingers-crossed: Hope it goes well, and thanks for the link.
Hope to see ;
İncreased earpiece and speaker volume.
Better camera
Better calibrated screen for a little colder and more brightness.
Fix memory leak
and i am done.
Sent from my XT1225 using XDA Free mobile app
And better battery performance too
DarkLey said:
I haven't tried everything yet because I'm restoring my phone from a hardbrick.
My tries and findings so far:
First hypothesis) Flash KK service ROM KDF21. Directly: I knew it wouldn't work from the begining, since the frequencies for the radio cell are different, but tried anyway. Managed to update to Lollipop (KK -> KK VoLTE -> KK something -> OTA Lollipop) but without cell signal it's useless
Second hypothesis) Flash radio partition from RETBR Lollipop over Droid Turbo Lollipop OTA: didn't work too, don't know exactly the reason.
Third hypothesis) Flash Droid Turbo KK over RETBR KK, BUT without the radio partition, then update: worked till I tried to update (somebody already posted that flashing Droid Turbo KK without flashing radio over RETBR KK works). The system won't update probably because the VoLTE/Advanced Calling update needs to modify radio and finds a different radio partition.
Fourth hypothesis) To be tested yet ---- Update Droid Turbo KK to the latest (after VoLTE), flash radio partition from RETBR KK, then update with Droid Turbo LP OTA: haven't tried this yet because when I was flashing RETBR KK again I bumped at the cable and it was already faulty, so I have to unbrick my device to try again and I'm gathering the stuff to do that (no tutorial available, maybe I'll put something together sometime)
Edit: nvm, found this just a couple threads below: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/turbo-unbrick-t3139811
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Wow. You are brave!
I'm happy right now with CM 12.1 (5.1.1 Lollipop on my two XT1225 phones. I'm actually in Brazil right now for two weeks, using them.
Hope 5.1 files Motorola releases will help for custom ROMs for our phones.
When Motorola does release 5.1 for the XT1225 (Moto Turbo and international Moto Maxx), the kernel source code is the main thing, but won't come for awhile.
First it's the OTA, then the full image, then a month or so later the kernel code. At least that seems to be the pattern.

Feburary Soak Test

So I just got a email for a soak test, wonder if it would block sunshine again. Luckily I already unlocked by mine.
zys52712 said:
So I just got a email for a soak test, wonder if it would block sunshine again. Luckily I already unlocked by mine.
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A further reminder to spend the money for sunshine now if you have any desire for an unlocked bootloader. Do not cry here if you take this soak or the ota and can't unlock if you had the opportunity to do so now.
Interesting. Maybe they'll throw us a bone and actually give us some security patches besides the one that stops Sunshine from working.
$10 says it's just a security patch rushed out to block Sunshine. So, EVERYBODY will now rush to install it before unlocking their bootloader.
Motorola Droid Turbo to receive Soak Test; could a surprise Nougat update be on the way?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...-surprise-Nougat-update-be-on-the-way_id91284
If you own the DROID Turbo, don't get your hopes up too high. These type of surprises rarely ever happen. Additionally, the fact that Motorola wants to rush this Soak Test probably means that the update contains something less earth shattering than a new Android build. Instead, it might offer a few bug fixes or the latest Google security patch.
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koftheworld said:
A further reminder to spend the money for sunshine now if you have any desire for an unlocked bootloader. Do not cry here if you take this soak or the ota and can't unlock if you had the opportunity to do so now.
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If we already have bought/used sunshine is there any need to redownload and use it again before/after taking the OTA?
5538dcf5 said:
If we already have bought/used sunshine is there any need to redownload and use it again before/after taking the OTA?
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If your xt1254 (Verizon Droid turbo) has an unlocked bootloader via the sunshine app before now, then you are safe and it is not necessary to purchase sunshine again.
It is best practice not to take OTA's ever, if you prefer having root access to your phone.
RL_Wells said:
If your xt1254 (Verizon Droid turbo) has an unlocked bootloader via the sunshine app before now, then you are safe and it is not necessary to purchase sunshine again.
It is best practice not to take OTA's ever, if you prefer having root access to your phone.
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Right. That doesn't mean you can't ever install UPDATES. Just wait until the stupid people take the OTA, see what it does.
Then the update will be posted here in XDA -- in many places and you can install them manually. Like the 6.0.1 Marshmallow firmware update. It's posted here in XDA as:
the full raw update,
a TWRP flashable version, (flashed with RSD or fastboot)
and was turned into a debloated, tweaked ROM version.
All which could be installed by people with unlocked bootloaders. The latter two could be installed via TWRP custom recovery.
There was never any reason to take the unknown OTA from Verizon, and never will be a reason to do so. If an OTA from Verizon is useful in any way, many, many versions will be posted here with expert commentary on what it does, how to install it. Early version of the 6.0.1 Marshmallow OTA bricked Droid Turbos which were encrypted. Verizon/Motorola stopped the OTA for several days. There's NEVER any reason to be the guinea pig for Verizon's incompetence. It's not like they didn't have enough time to test the firmware! The XT1225 got the SAME Marshmallow back in July 2016.
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Right. That doesn't mean you can't ever install UPDATES. Just wait until the stupid people take the OTA, see what it does.
Then the update will be posted here in XDA -- in many places and you can install them manually. Like the 6.0.1 Marshmallow firmware update. It's posted here in XDA as:
the full raw update,
a TWRP flashable version, (flashed with RSD or fastboot)
and was turned into a debloated, tweaked ROM version.
All which could be installed by people with unlocked bootloaders. The latter two could be installed via TWRP custom recovery.
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Question about the debloated, tweaked ROM version...what difference will I notice versus stock? Is there anything that doesn't work in the ROM?
Everytime sunshine finds an exploit that unlocks Droid Turbo's bootloader Verizon gives us a new update..
Coincidence? I think not.
Dabrador said:
Question about the debloated, tweaked ROM version...what difference will I notice versus stock? Is there anything that doesn't work in the ROM?
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It's gotten enthusiastic reviews from users, but would be better for you to go to that link and read the op (first post) and then read the last few pages of comments. Not all the pages, but at least the last 5 or 6.
A couple of us already told you about it in the other thread:
ChazzMatt said:
I know you don't want a "ROM", but you might consider ComputerFreak274's stock-based ROM. It's just de-bloated, tweaked stock Verizon Motorola Marshmallow firmware. Has audio boost and some other stuff too -- battery tweaks, speed tweaks, cache tweaks, etc.
If you are a Verizon user, right now this is the only "ROM" that lets you keep VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling on Verizon.
You can still install Xposed with this, he tells you how to do it in his op.
I'm on Resurrection Remix Marshmallow myself, so I'm not suggesting it because I use it (I have XT1225, not XT1254). I'm suggesting it because it's basically stock firmware the way Verizon/Motorola should have released it. It's a "ROM" for XT1254 Verizon users who don't want full custom ROMs.
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Claps1775 said:
Only xposed I have install is the YouTube add block . I have gravity box for other tweaks. I am on CFs ( ComputerFreak274) 1.06 mm ROM. I like his work. Check it out.
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Has anyone taken the Feb soak? Anything interesting?
Just got it, it's only a security update. You can check the Droid Turbo Reddit for confirmation, a user there has the same results.
Confirmed by Verizon: https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/droid-turbo-update/
Also, I'm downloading it now, and I'm not part of the soak test. I'll capture the OTA and post it shortly.
Alienite said:
Just got it, it's only a security update. You can check the Droid Turbo Reddit for confirmation, a user there has the same results.
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A "security update" to block Sunshine? [emoji14]
Now that Sunshine unlocks 6.0.1 bootloader?
Figured as much. The people speculating Nougat were delusional. Lenovo/Motorola hasn't even given all the Quarks Marshmallow yet.
My response to a post from this morning in another thread, but relevant to this discussion...
cod3name47 said:
Any idea about nougat update for Moto Maxx?
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Nougat? Motorola hasn't even released stock Marshmallow for all the Moto Maxx phones yet! The U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 (clone of the XT1254 Droid Turbo in every way -- FCC ID, radio bands) is still on 5.0.2 Lollipop!
None of the Quarks are on the Motorola Nougat list, which was released months ago by Motorola/Lenovo. Would be very unusual to give an unannounced Noguat 7.X update, since Motorola/Lenovo seems to want to do less work -- not more -- regarding updates to their customers.
Motorola announced Marshmallow for Quarks October 2, 2015. WHEN did they deliver it?
XT1225 Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo got it in July 2016 (9 months later),
Took Motorola until December 2016 (13 months) to actually give it to the Droid Turbo XT1254 --
U.S. Moto Maxx still does not have Marshmallow (16 months and counting).
If you want Nougat, unlock your bootloader and flash any of the custom Nougat 7.X ROM we have available. Here's the current custom Nougat (7.x) Quark ROMs to choose from.
[ROM][All Quark][7.x] Resurrection Remix
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]AOKP 7.x For All Quark
[ROM][Quarks][LOS/CM 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2016-12-30] (hybrid of CM14 and Resurrection Remix)
[ROM][7.1][All quark] crDroid Android
[ROM][7.1.1_r9][OFFICIAL] AospExtended ROM V3.1 [OMS/DUI][quark]
OTA posted. https://forum.xda-developers.com/dr.../ota-marshmallow-build-mcg24-251-5-5-t3565697
Hahahhahaha I know they are lazy....Motorola was good untill it was solo company!!! Lenovo ruined it!!
they won't keep us current, but they can bang out an update to patch sunshine, WTF? it's like they want to say FU to us for using this phone..
rhcreed said:
they won't keep us current, but they can bang out an update to patch sunshine, WTF? it's like they want to say FU to us for using this phone..
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Well to be fair, the android security patch version is now dated January 2017, so at least there's that.
Also, at long last, we are finally protected from the Stagefright vulnerability :laugh:
DD?
ChazzMatt said:
A "security update" to block Sunshine? [emoji14]
If you want Nougat, unlock your bootloader and flash any of the custom Nougat 7.X ROM we have available. Here's the current custom Nougat (7.x) Quark ROMs to choose from.
[ROM][All Quark][7.x] Resurrection Remix
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]AOKP 7.x For All Quark
[ROM][Quarks][LOS/CM 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2016-12-30] (hybrid of CM14 and Resurrection Remix)
[ROM][7.1][All quark] crDroid Android
[ROM][7.1.1_r9][OFFICIAL] AospExtended ROM V3.1 [OMS/DUI][quark]
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Still running (unlocked) stock, what do you recommend as a DD? I really just want it to work and have solid battery life (why I bought this phone 2+ years ago). Is there one of these seen as the most stable? (My days of finding a decent rom for my S3 were a nightmare, no one rom was stable enough to "just work") Thx!
rhcreed said:
Still running (unlocked) stock, what do you recommend as a DD? I really just want it to work and have solid battery life (why I bought this phone 2+ years ago). Is there one of these seen as the most stable? (My days of finding a decent rom for my S3 were a nightmare, no one rom was stable enough to "just work") Thx!
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Any of the top three Nougat ROMS on the list have very high reviews. You can go to those threads and ask questions, and see other Droid Turbo owners.
#2 and #3 are maintained by Droid Turbo owners who use Verizon, if that makes a difference to you. But all three are excellent and many Droid Turbo owners are using all three.
[ROM][All Quark][7.x] Resurrection Remix
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]AOKP 7.x For All Quark
[ROM][Quarks][LOS/CM 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2016-12-30] (hybrid of CM14 and Resurrection Remix)
However, if you need Verizon VoLTE, then you should go with a debloated, tweaked Marshmallow ROM based on stock Motorola Verizon firmware. See below. It's not Nougat, but right now only stock Motorola Verizon firmware or a ROM based on stock Verizon firmware can get Verizon VoLTE on this phone -- until a dev discovers the secret handshake. (ZTE has discovered the secret handshake for Verizon VoLTE. Now a dev just needs to figure out what they did.)
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@computerfreek274 has now released a Marshmallow ROM for the Droid Turbo XT1254 based on the Verizon's belated Marshmallow firmware. He has debloated it, tweaked it. It has Verizon voicemail app, Verizon VoLTE (only works on Verizon), Verizon Wi-Fi calling (only works on Verizon), some volume boost, and battery saving tweaks.
* Computerfreek274_MM_1.0.4 Marshmallow 6.0.1 Stock rooted VOLte Debloated
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/computerfreek274mm1-0-android-6-0-1-t3503634

Anyone using the Amazon G4 version?

I don't see many people on any of the Moto G4 fórums who have the Amazon G4 ads version. I know there are a few like myself, who were able to unlock the bootloader, before Amazon stopped it.
All info on updates communicated on these forum pertain to the retail version. I would have thought more people would have bought the Amazon discounted version.
It sucks that even with the bootloader unlocked, I cannot flash a retail version of the Stock ROM. Is anyone out there with the Amazon G4 versión?
Please let me know if you are and on what Android build your on? Anyone received the September security update? We're you one of the people who were able to unlock the bootloader?
I have one
I ran MM for a long time, but I just upgraded to the Sept Nougat release fine following the steps from the first post, followed by the second:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
I might have been able to just do the second. FWIW, I didn't relock and I did pull out the gpt and bootloader.img lines from the upgrade script.
vettejock99 said:
I ran MM for a long time, but I just upgraded to the Sept Nougat release fine following the steps from the first post, followed by the second:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
I might have been able to just do the second. FWIW, I didn't relock and I did pull out the gpt and bootloader.img lines from the upgrade script.
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It's your Moto G4 the Amazon ads version? I am on the June security update NPJ25-93-14.5. I was checking if anyone on the Amazon update channel got the September security update.
Also, I wanted to know if anyone was able to convert the Moto G4 from Amazon to Retail.
I have a xt1625 Amazon Prime ads g4. My phone is bootloader unlocked, rooted, and on Npj25-93-14.4 with the bootloader from retail 93-14-8 from my last attempt to change it from a amz to retus. I haven't yet found a way to use the stock retus rom on the phone, after many attempt and several bricks.
CHownclown said:
I have a xt1625 Amazon Prime ads g4. My phone is bootloader unlocked, rooted, and on Npj25-93-14.4 with the bootloader from retail 93-14-8 from my last attempt to change it from a amz to retus. I haven't yet found a way to use the stock retus rom on the phone, after many attempt and several bricks.
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To the prior question, yes mine is an ad-supported XT1625. I unlocked it like day 2 before they stopped supporting it. I ran rooted and ad-free for about a year, then the micro-usb failed and I had to send it in for warranty repair. Moto was nice enough to take it a week after expiration and they sent a replacement - another ad-supported XT1625. That was a few months ago. Sorry I can't confirm how I got the new phone bootloader unlocked, but it is. Software channel shows retus, and I'm running the roms I linked. I do recall seriously bricking it at one point, but I do think if you're bootloader unlocked there is a way to get to retus. Again, sorry I can't recall the journey.
vettejock99 said:
To the prior question, yes mine is an ad-supported XT1625. I unlocked it like day 2 before they stopped supporting it. I ran rooted and ad-free for about a year, then the micro-usb failed and I had to send it in for warranty repair. Moto was nice enough to take it a week after expiration and they sent a replacement - another ad-supported XT1625. That was a few months ago. Sorry I can't confirm how I got the new phone bootloader unlocked, but it is. Software channel shows retus, and I'm running the roms I linked. I do recall seriously bricking it at one point, but I do think if you're bootloader unlocked there is a way to get to retus. Again, sorry I can't recall the journey.
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Maybe the replacement they sent had Amazon ad, but the software channel is changed to retus.
CHownclown said:
I have a xt1625 Amazon Prime ads g4. My phone is bootloader unlocked, rooted, and on Npj25-93-14.4 with the bootloader from retail 93-14-8 from my last attempt to change it from a amz to retus. I haven't yet found a way to use the stock retus rom on the phone, after many attempt and several bricks.
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By just flashing a retus bootloader you changed the channel to retus? Even with it being retus, you can't flash retus firmware on it?
Anyone with any knowledge on converting the Amazon Prime unlocked bootloader phone from AMZ update channel to retail RETUS?
If the bootloader has been unlock on an Amazon Ads phone, Why can't a retail version be flashed? It's the same firmware that the Retail XT1625 has. Even if the software channel stays AMZ, the retail firmware should work.
vettejock99 said:
To the prior question, yes mine is an ad-supported XT1625. I unlocked it like day 2 before they stopped supporting it. I ran rooted and ad-free for about a year, then the micro-usb failed and I had to send it in for warranty repair. Moto was nice enough to take it a week after expiration and they sent a replacement - another ad-supported XT1625. That was a few months ago. Sorry I can't confirm how I got the new phone bootloader unlocked, but it is. Software channel shows retus, and I'm running the roms I linked. I do recall seriously bricking it at one point, but I do think if you're bootloader unlocked there is a way to get to retus. Again, sorry I can't recall the journey.
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Whats your current security update? Are you rooted? I am in need of the stock boot.img of the December or February security update.
CHownclown said:
I have a xt1625 Amazon Prime ads g4. My phone is bootloader unlocked, rooted, and on Npj25-93-14.4 with the bootloader from retail 93-14-8 from my last attempt to change it from a amz to retus. I haven't yet found a way to use the stock retus rom on the phone, after many attempt and several bricks.
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Whats your current security update? Are you rooted? I am in need of the stock boot.img of the December or February security update.

[Help Needed] A Fresh Idea to Get Root

Hello XDA community,
This is my first post on here and I hope I'm not doing something wrong in terms of protocol, but I have a rough idea on finding a root for this phone that needs support and refining from you guys, the XDA community.
My idea is this: If we can find a way to downgrade the phone software back to before the December 2016 security patch, we can run a Dirty Cow root exploit (, which is ready to go on GitHub, ) to temp root this device (or any device, in theory). Once we have temp root, we could run a program like SunShine or whatever else to turn that temp root to perm root. (SunShine currently says that, to full root this device, it needs some kind of temp root.)
Now going back to the first part about downgrading the software to before the December 2016 security update, I initially thought we could achieve this through mfastboot or RSD Lite, since they allow flashing of officially signed Motorola firmwares. However, I read that when upgrading the Moto Z, and presumably all other variants, from Android MM to Android N, the (locked) bootloader is updated, too, and will not allow downgrading, resulting in a prevalidaton error. This is where I need your help.
The question is: How can we downgrade the firmware back to MM, or some other before-December firmware, to use Dirty Cow for root. Please leave ANY suggestions in the comments.
Thank you for your time and help. I have faith that we will be able to solve this together.
I don't think you can downgrade. But i've been running this for the past 9 or so months to prevent the forced updates: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/themes/app-moto-z-play-apps-stop-ota-motocare-t3538812
(no idea if that would work on the z force)
Well I know there are many videos on YouTube claiming to downgrade certain Moto devices through RSD Lite or mfastboot for different budget Moto devices, but I suspect they are all fake. Nonetheless, I hope there is a legitimate way to downgrade.
I forgot to mention that if you can get a replacement Moto Z Force from Verizon, which is very easy to do in my area, they ship you a refurbished replacement, which runs marshmallow and has no updates installed, but I don't have the opportunity to get another replacement, so for anyone else, that's one way you could "downgrade" and try Dirty Cow to root the device.
I'm just going by this topic https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/dont-upgrade-to-nougat-ota-t3524456
but i don't really know for sure
Wow. Now I wish I'd known about this MUCH sooner. Its too late for me. Well, in that case, try to see if you can revert back to marshmallow if you unofficially upgraded to nougat and check what month of security patches you are on. If it's before the December 2016 security patch, then you can run Dirty Cow and get temporary root. With temp root you can most likely find a way to make it permanent root.

Heip with G5 plus non-rooted phone with unlocked bootloader running August 2018 8.1

Hello,
I've just bought a second-hand moto G5 Plus that had a custom rom installed on it, I'm guessing it was also rooted at some point. It currently has the Aug 1 2018 version of 8.1:
build #: OPS28.85-13
It's been a while since I've messed about with flashing phones, so I wanted to ask for some assistance before potentially bricking the poor thing.
Ideally, I'd like to get it back on the stock update channel, so it can get OTA updates, but with root -- if that's not possible, I'd be almost as happy to just flash a Sept 1 2018 build (which my other 100% stock G5 plus already has) and root it. I've looked at a few posts here, notably this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...o-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-coming-t3830482
Though not knowing the exact history of the device, I'm reluctant to just follow the instructions. Can anyone provide some insight as to the safe(st) procedure?
Thanks!
-pir
You can't have root and receive updates from official channel at the same time.. the bootloader need to be locked to recieve updates.. you can however flash twrp on the device.. flash the stock rom( you will find latest in the forums).. and when the updates come out someone will capture it and make a flashabe zip, so you just need to flash that.. you can have root that way and stay updated.. cause from what I've read so far you don't get OTA when you're bootloader is unlocked..
That makes sense. So I guess the moto software won't even attempt an update if the bootloader is unlocked? Thanks!
Unlocked bootloader won't make any difference. The OTA update checks the system files and bootloader. If you have made any modifications to the system, kernel, or are running an older bootloader version the update will fail. Lock status of the bootloader makes no difference.
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