I saw that a lot of people ask a lot of other people who had the time to flash the new android pie,
I decided to share my experience with it so far so you wont have to go searching in forums for stuff
*recent apps are still the same.
*switching to 4k mod using adb commands no more requires you to install a special dialer, it works fine with the dialer that comes with the firmware, also recent apps are no longer black.
*I have to be honest I flashed a firmware that isnt for our single sim device and isnt even for my region but the animations in it are kind of weird, I cant say slow or fast but are weird in my opinion.
*camera UI is changed, I dont see anything special though, you can now have the google lens app which has new features that im sure most of you already know about (like reading and copying texts, identifying products etc...), video recording doesnt record HDR as some have stated, either that or I have not found out how to use it yet, but there is FULL HD 960 fps now.
*night mode does not work I dont know if its because of the firmware or that it simply doesnt work.
*phone does not feel as snappy as oreo I am being very honest, especially with power button, when I press it it takes about half a second for the phone to turn on screen.
*notification settings are new like what you saw on other devices, though I wanted round edges, but its still edgy corners like always.
*battery didnt show improvement (tho needs further testing) but it didnt also show worse so thats a good start.
*no SDR to HDR as people thought.
*sound levels didnt change, system touch sounds are still the same, ringtone and notification tone still the same
so far thats all I have encountered Ill let yall know when anything special pops in my eyes while i use the device.
*note:
I would really say to all you who have not received the update yet, there is no really something to be hyped about, just wait for your carrier to release the update.
if you have any further questions, feel free
night pictures improved? or same??
raven213 said:
night pictures improved? or same??
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I fell like it's better
raven213 said:
night pictures improved? or same??
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I havent noticed anything noticeable but i will do a detailed comparison tomorrow
madshark2009 said:
*switching to 4k mod using adb commands no more requires you to install a special dialer, it works fine with the dialer that comes with the firmware, also recent apps are no longer black.
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Using the Google phone call app was my choice since Sony are not updating their dialer and we still have the oldest one, and I'm very happy that the recent apps are no longer black, thanks for the info, I agree we shouldn't get so hyped about it, since the most iconic features are not included like gestures, new nav bar, etc
SilverGamer_YT said:
I fell like it's better
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I havent noticed anything noticeable but i will do a detailed comparison tomorrow
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madshark2009 said:
I saw that a lot of people ask a lot of other people who had the time to flash the new android pie,
I decided to share my experience with it so far so you wont have to go searching in forums for stuff
*recent apps are still the same.
*switching to 4k mod using adb commands no more requires you to install a special dialer, it works fine with the dialer that comes with the firmware, also recent apps are no longer black.
*I have to be honest I flashed a firmware that isnt for our single sim device and isnt even for my region but the animations in it are kind of weird, I cant say slow or fast but are weird in my opinion.
*camera UI is changed, I dont see anything special though, you can now have the google lens app which has new features that im sure most of you already know about (like reading and copying texts, identifying products etc...), video recording doesnt record HDR as some have stated, either that or I have not found out how to use it yet, but there is FULL HD 960 fps now.
*night mode does not work I dont know if its because of the firmware or that it simply doesnt work.
*phone does not feel as snappy as oreo I am being very honest, especially with power button, when I press it it takes about half a second for the phone to turn on screen.
*notification settings are new like what you saw on other devices, though I wanted round edges, but its still edgy corners like always.
*battery didnt show improvement (tho needs further testing) but it didnt also show worse so thats a good start.
*no SDR to HDR as people thought.
*sound levels didnt change, system touch sounds are still the same, ringtone and notification tone still the same
so far thats all I have encountered Ill let yall know when anything special pops in my eyes while i use the device.
*note:
I would really say to all you who have not received the update yet, there is no really something to be hyped about, just wait for your carrier to release the update.
if you have any further questions, feel free
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how did you flashed? im on US and was wondering if i flashed VN hows signal and stuff also lte works? what about fingerprint scanner?? working???
raven213 said:
how did you flashed? im on US and was wondering if i flashed VN hows signal and stuff also lte works? what about fingerprint scanner?? working???
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Im from israel and i flashed everything in the folder, all works great, using newflasher
Zewarxx said:
Using the Google phone call app was my choice since Sony are not updating their dialer and we still have the oldest one, and I'm very happy that the recent apps are no longer black, thanks for the info, I agree we shouldn't get so hyped about it, since the most iconic features are not included like gestures, new nav bar, etc
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If you're upset about gestures not being included by default, you shouldn't be because this xda app on playstore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xda.nobar) will get you a similar experience. There are alot of customization options as well. I've been using it for several months now.
hasaan6545 said:
If you're upset about gestures not being included by default, you shouldn't be because this xda app on playstore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xda.nobar) will get you a similar experience. There are alot of customization options as well. I've been using it for several months now.
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Man I tried the mentioned above also I tried so many different ones and finally I come to a conclusion that this is the best one for me :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fb.fluid
So I'm totally fine for them not including the gestures but the new recent app windows are better than the current ones
raven213 said:
how did you flashed? im on US and was wondering if i flashed VN hows signal and stuff also lte works? what about fingerprint scanner?? working???
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Fingerprint works fine im in France and I can use any kind of mobile data so the signal works fine , camera works without any kind of DRM and all ok
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Im from israel and i flashed everything in the folder, all works great, using newflasher
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נו ברור, כי מחוץ לארה"ב כל הרשתות הסלולריות אותו דבר (וטוב שכך).
I'm from Australia and my phone was purchased in Israel. Flashed the Pie VN on my G8141 and all's working great. Including volte which is not available in Israel. I unlocked my bootloader and everything so I have magisk and I'm using the lawnstep module to get the new recents menu, only better because lawnchair has a bunch of extra features.
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hasaan6545 said:
If you're upset about gestures not being included by default, you shouldn't be because this xda app on playstore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xda.nobar) will get you a similar experience. There are alot of customization options as well. I've been using it for several months now.
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Get magisk beta or canary, install the latest lawnchair beta, go on the magisk manager and install lawnstep (a module), reboot, and enjoy the actual pie recents menu. Improved. Not a replacement, but the real thing. And you can even keep it while using the regular navbar!
Doea camera contains bokeh effect? I mean, all phones have that, except sony's phones...
nevenx said:
Doea camera contains bokeh effect? I mean, all phones have that, except sony's phones...
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It does, but its a single lens camera, so it wont be as real as 2 lens camera phones.
You can download it via google play, and it works since ever, since marshmallow i guess or nougat its not something new
madshark2009 said:
It does, but its a single lens camera, so it wont be as real as 2 lens camera phones.
You can download it via google play, and it works since ever, since marshmallow i guess or nougat its not something new
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Sorry, I meant built in like in XZ2 premium
madshark2009 said:
I saw that a lot of people ask a lot of other people who had the time to flash the new android pie,
I decided to share my experience with it so far so you wont have to go searching in forums for stuff
*recent apps are still the same.
*switching to 4k mod using adb commands no more requires you to install a special dialer, it works fine with the dialer that comes with the firmware, also recent apps are no longer black.
*I have to be honest I flashed a firmware that isnt for our single sim device and isnt even for my region but the animations in it are kind of weird, I cant say slow or fast but are weird in my opinion.
*camera UI is changed, I dont see anything special though, you can now have the google lens app which has new features that im sure most of you already know about (like reading and copying texts, identifying products etc...), video recording doesnt record HDR as some have stated, either that or I have not found out how to use it yet, but there is FULL HD 960 fps now.
*night mode does not work I dont know if its because of the firmware or that it simply doesnt work.
*phone does not feel as snappy as oreo I am being very honest, especially with power button, when I press it it takes about half a second for the phone to turn on screen.
*notification settings are new like what you saw on other devices, though I wanted round edges, but its still edgy corners like always.
*battery didnt show improvement (tho needs further testing) but it didnt also show worse so thats a good start.
*no SDR to HDR as people thought.
*sound levels didnt change, system touch sounds are still the same, ringtone and notification tone still the same
so far thats all I have encountered Ill let yall know when anything special pops in my eyes while i use the device.
*note:
I would really say to all you who have not received the update yet, there is no really something to be hyped about, just wait for your carrier to release the update.
if you have any further questions, feel free
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About the SDR to HDR conversion, the XZ2 and XZ3 don't have it as a setting called "SDR to HDR" but it's on the "Video image enhancement". Doesn't the XZ Premium have It? (Oreo already has it but does Pie convert it to HDR? )
Lazaros_K said:
About the SDR to HDR conversion, the XZ2 and XZ3 don't have it as a setting called "SDR to HDR" but it's on the "Video image enhancement". Doesn't the XZ Premium have It? (Oreo already has it but does Pie convert it to HDR? )
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It is there but i dont think it does sdr to hdr, it just adjusts the coloring and sharpness
Lirannl said:
נו ברור, כי מחוץ לארה"ב כל הרשתות הסלולריות אותו דבר (וטוב שכך).
I'm from Australia and my phone was purchased in Israel. Flashed the Pie VN on my G8141 and all's working great. Including volte which is not available in Israel. I unlocked my bootloader and everything so I have magisk and I'm using the lawnstep module to get the new recents menu, only better because lawnchair has a bunch of extra features.
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I have a question tho, I have a locked bootlader, and flashed this VN update, it has nothing to do with the bootloader right? I havent messed anything, you know how it is in Israel, the slightest change in a device can give the company a reason not to do you any favors and fix your device under warranty...
so I am all good right? nothing is wrong with flashing this update as its legit right?
Does Sony's Android 9.0 support the Camera2 API (HAL3) required by Google Camera?
What about the sound? Xzp have a horrible low (or poor) sound specially YouTube, Facebook videos, etc, music with Sony music app are fine.
Thanks.
Sent from my Sony Xperia XZ Premium using XDA Labs
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Does Sony's Android 9.0 support the Camera2 API (HAL3) required by Google Camera?
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I am using XZ1 and updated to 9.0. It support Camera2 API full.
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So I just got my hands on the device a couple hours ago, and this is so great I felt the need to write a review immediately.
When I heard the name "oppo", and saw that company from China, I wasn't expecting something spectacular. It had good specs on the paper, but in my mind I was thinking "Meh, it will be just a blown up chinese device". Well, I'm glad to say I was wrong!
The package
Opened the first cardboard box. This first one looked like a shoebox, pretty amusing at first, and inside is contained the actual device box. And there came the first great surprise: it's already original. The box actually unfolds, seated by a magnet. You then get your eyes on the phone, and under it you can find the classic accessories (earbuds, charger, USB) PLUS! Two programmable NFC tags. Nice little gift.
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The device itself is pretty standard:
- On the top of the front, you can find the front camera, earpiece, and a notification LED. Other sensors are pretty hidden, which make it very clean. On the bottom, 3 touch keys that light up when the screen is on (and they're otherwise invisible), from left to right Menu, Home and Back. Since I'm used to Nexus 4 touchkeys, the back key is on the other side.
- The back is also clean, similar to some HTCs. A simple and small camera sensor on the top, a tiny hole for the 2nd microphone next to it, a big speaker at the bottom, and that's it. There's a subtle "oppo" logo written in the middle, and I'm wondering right now if they shouldn't rotate that logo, as it's written vertically, thus you're not sure if it's "oddo" or "oppo", especially if you're holding it in landscape the wrong way.
- On the left side, the SIM tray, similar (if not exactly the same) to the Nexus 4 one ; you need a small extractor tool to open it, and under it the power button.
- On the right side, just the two volume buttons.
On the top lays the headphone jack, and the USB on the bottom.
All the buttons feels super sturdy and well-made, there's little to no jankiness. A sturdy device. The design is original and you cannot say "what's that iPhone" when seeing it.
Turning it on
Duuh, a boot sound, I hate that.
Okay first, the screen is GORGEOUS. I never had the chance to see another 1080p screen in a phone yet, but the Find 5's one is definitely one of the best screens I've seen. It doesn't have burning colors like AMOLED, and has just the right contrast. The viewing angles are way better than Nexus 4's (which gives blue if you look from one side, or yellow from another side), to put it straight there's simply no color offset at all from any angle. There a very small contrast increase when you look from the bottom or the top at a high angle, but you really have to be looking for it. The resolution is just great, it's beautiful.
Classic connectivity. I don't have my SIM card in yet, but it has all the things you'd need: Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC (with a little tool to write some features to the provided tags), support for Wi-Fi Display, Wi-Fi Direct, etc. Of course, they use the normal NFC protocol, so you can Beam with your friends having a Nexus. The Wi-Fi reception seems pretty good, no loss of speed anywhere in my house.
Now, one big downside, the software. Actually, it feels like TouchWiz, and god knows I hate TouchWiz. It's like having a Galaxy S, with iOS-like icons (rounded glossy squares) and the same exact style of app drawer. The settings menu has been revamped, and it's a big mess. Everything feels just unsorted and messy, there no logical way to find out a particular option. And the Developer Settings menu lacks 90% of options.
The notification bar puts Wi-Fi and 3G on the left, notifications on the right (just like an iPhone). The top of the notification drawer is the Jelly Bean one, and JUST underneath you get gray gradients with quick settings icons (just like TouchWiz, again), and a old-style notification list, with the clear button at the bottom.
In the gallery, the Android's Action Bar has been removed to put a small shortcuts bar at the bottom, iOS-styled once again. The contacts app is also TouchWizy.
You can find some extra features in the settings, like gestures and motions to pick up a call.
There sure are some good ideas from Oppo's software designers, but they really took a direction waaaay too straight towards iOS (now, did I say TouchWiz because I'm not used to see them on an iPhone originally? Heh). Take the same color scheme, but with Holo design, and you'll be an epic win for me.
Wait, it's not all! Camera time!
From what I could see previously, it's no surprise that the Camera software is also not spectacular. It has that same iPhone inspiration, and both the UI and UX are very perfectible. The settings cannot be naturally scrolled, and it's a bit bad to use.
However, the Camera hardware is pretty great, at least on the video part. You can record the classic 480p, 720p and 1080p resolutions with the back camera, and 120fps video in either slow-motion or at regular speed in 480p resolution. This is something never seen before, and sports fan will probably like it, as you can record things moving fast in a smooth slow-motion.
The front camera allows recording in 720p, and has a pretty good lighting.
For pictures, even though both front and back support HDR, the quality is not spectacular. It's in the range of most phones, at least in medium-low light. The image is pretty noisy and grainy, and a bit blurry even when focusing as best as possible.
A sample from the back camera (click to enlarge):
Wrap-up
From a hardware point of view, the Find 5 is really awesome: great SoC (same as Nexus 4) with 2GB RAM, superb screen, nice speakers, notification LED, nice camera, original design, and the touchkeys are ideally positioned. It's a sturdy device, that tells you "I can live forever".
However, the software really lacks polishing (but CyanogenMod will take care of that, hehe). You can smell the iPhone inspiration everywhere, and it just breaks the Android experience as all the other apps behave differently than the system. Some apps like the Settings app has been revamped and became a mess, but there are some nice ideas like the Files app, having an okay design, and cool features like FTP or DLNA.
All in all, that's a 8.5/10 for me, because I know the software won't last long on my device. It's really worth the price. The back camera could be a little bit better when it comes to pictures, and a little refinement of the device shape (especially some edges) would make it even better, but I'm nitpicking.
If you want it, don't hesitate, you should get it.
Thanks friend.
Will have cm10.1 support
Ty
Aerys said:
Thanks friend.
Will have cm10.1 support
Ty
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Of course, I want that device to be my Nexus 4 Plus.
XpLoDWilD said:
Of course, I want that device to be my Nexus 4 Plus.
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I help you test
Aerys said:
Thanks friend.
Will have cm10.1 support
Ty
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Unless we run into some horrible unforeseen obstacle, yes.
Where you guys bought the oppo?
Aerys said:
Where you guys bought the oppo?
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Normally, Chinese manufacturers set up us teh bomb
Instead...
oppo set up us teh free device
I'm not quite ready for a review yet - But here's some observations regarding their software, from a development perspective:
First, a bit of background - Qualcomm devices are almost always derived, to some degree, from Qualcomm's reference source at CodeAurora, aka CAF.
https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/
A good way to determine which CAF release tag a manufacturer used was to check out various tags from https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=summary , drop the manufacturer's source release on top, and find the CAF tag that produces the smallest diff after dropping the source on top.
A list of CAF tags (which can sometimes be quite outdated, but is good enough for our purposes) is at https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/release
In the case of the Find5 - they derived from CAF tag A8064AAAAANLYA101034 - which is fairly old (October 2012). It's on branch jb_rel_rb4 Oppo didn't merge in upstream CAF changes at all in the interim. Sony's Xperia Z kernels were based on A8064AAAAANLYA1334, which is only about a month newer date-wise, but is at least Android 4.1.2 instead of 4.1.1
A8064AAAAANLYA101034 is a tag along the jb_rel_rb4 branch
Oppo's kernel produces a diff against the base CAF tag that is only about 583k in size - this is pretty small (good news!)
I'm in the process of pushing these diffs as a reference to https://github.com/Entropy512/kernel_find5_reference - NOTE: I will NOT be doing any development in that particular repo, AND I may rebase it periodically. It is for REFERENCE ONLY.
Attached is a complete patchset against the above tag, generated using
Code:
git format-patch
EDITED: Previously I thought the base CAF tag was A8064AAAAANLYA103010 - this is wrong.
Thanks for the review xplodwold! Its kinda cool to hear your take on it.
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Where you guys bought the oppo?
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Oppostyle.com..or amazon
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So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Where you guys bought the oppo?
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Coreym said:
Oppostyle.com..or amazon
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also ibuygou.com
chrmhoffmann said:
So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Yep
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detritu5 said:
also ibuygou.com
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Stick to official stores for warranty.
First off, a great review which is killing me more as I'm waiting for DHL to update my tracking info. The best is that the future is looking bright for this device in the ROM department, thanks guys!:good:
chrmhoffmann said:
So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Bootloader seems wide open.
Biggest "quirk", which doesn't take too long to figure out, is that you need to add Oppo's USB vendor ID (0x22d9) to ~/.android/adb_usb.ini (that's on Linux, not sure which Windows/MacOS equivalents are...)
Entropy512 said:
Bootloader seems wide open.
Biggest "quirk", which doesn't take too long to figure out, is that you need to add Oppo's USB vendor ID (0x22d9) to ~/.android/adb_usb.ini (that's on Linux, not sure which Windows/MacOS equivalents are...)
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That's interesting. Maybe that's why we were having so much problem to get adb working
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please xplodwild, make us a cyano rom...oppo rom is so s.hitty and buggy :crying:
chrmhoffmann said:
So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Yes ,yes ,yes ,yes and yes .
What a great news, I'm a oppo find 5 owner, now very pleased by your great job to bring us third part ROM!!!!!
I've taken a break from find5 to try and get camera working on the Sony Xperia Z using a trick pointed out to me by one of the other CM maintainers.
If this works, it means that instead of starting with a massive kernel rebase, we can use the same approach the Z maintainers are currently using for their bringup (bring patches from mako into the factory kernel) and then do a major kernel rebase later.
The method used to do bringup on the Z is much faster, however it was previously thought it would not be possible to get camera working without some major hacks. Now it looks like there may be an easier (although still a bit hacky...) solution - if it works on the Z, that'll be a good path to go on this device.
I formerly had a Galaxy S2, great machine, just getting a bit low on memory.
So i bought a fancy looking Z2 with top features, I even have a purple cover for it now! Yeaaahh.
Only,...
I'm totally not happy with my new 'flagship':
- Can't root on 4.4.4 (finally managed to unlock, jeeeej )
- Can't write to SD cart (because I can't root) with all my pictures, movies etc I just bought a 64Gb
- Kitkat 4.4.4 suddenly uses the most ugly emojis, yellow blobs and childish look
(I switched my S2 to Lollipop, great system but same childish design.)
- Go Sms, my favorite has less options (no scheduled messages etc)
- Some older apps won't work anymore?
Also:
- The Camera is not handy placed, just in a corner so you put your finger mostly on it
- Buttons are not handy placed, I regularly press the Camera button when picking up)
I hope you guys have any advice for me?
Except buying a Samsung ?
Get used to it.
When done you'll never turn back
Godyn said:
I formerly had a Galaxy S2, great machine, just getting a bit low on memory.
So i bought a fancy looking Z2 with top features, I even have a purple cover for it now! Yeaaahh.
Only,...
I'm totally not happy with my new 'flagship':
- Can't root on 4.4.4 (finally managed to unlock, jeeeej )
- Can't write to SD cart (because I can't root) with all my pictures, movies etc I just bought a 64Gb
- Kitkat 4.4.4 suddenly uses the most ugly emojis, yellow blobs and childish look
(I switched my S2 to Lollipop, great system but same childish design.)
- Go Sms, my favorite has less options (no scheduled messages etc)
- Some older apps won't work anymore?
Also:
- The Camera is not handy placed, just in a corner so you put your finger mostly on it
- Buttons are not handy placed, I regularly press the Camera button when picking up)
I hope you guys have any advice for me?
Except buying a Samsung ?
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WTF "Can't root", "Can't write to SD", "the most ugly emojis"....
Z2 isn't for you sell it and done. Go back and use some bull**** phone isn't better for you.
Godyn said:
I formerly had a Galaxy S2, great machine, just getting a bit low on memory.
So i bought a fancy looking Z2 with top features, I even have a purple cover for it now! Yeaaahh.
Only,...
I'm totally not happy with my new 'flagship':
- Can't root on 4.4.4 (finally managed to unlock, jeeeej )
- Can't write to SD cart (because I can't root) with all my pictures, movies etc I just bought a 64Gb
- Kitkat 4.4.4 suddenly uses the most ugly emojis, yellow blobs and childish look
(I switched my S2 to Lollipop, great system but same childish design.)
- Go Sms, my favorite has less options (no scheduled messages etc)
- Some older apps won't work anymore?
Also:
- The Camera is not handy placed, just in a corner so you put your finger mostly on it
- Buttons are not handy placed, I regularly press the Camera button when picking up)
I hope you guys have any advice for me?
Except buying a Samsung ?
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well if you havent kept a lot of data on your phone and is relatively fresh i'll suggest you downgrade and root right now before it becomes a full days work to backup your data. there are plenty of guides available in general forum showing how to do that. i guess your statement "managed to unlock", means you unlocked the bootloader, i hope you didnt before backing up the TA partition, writing on SD can be achieved after you root and install kitkat sd card patch or installing a ROM like MoonWalker by @Pandemic (i'm using it and it's really good btw), also there are plenty of other messaging apps now in the playstore along with different keyboards which should provide you with your desired features and emoticons, that's definitely not a reason not to like your phone.
also the camera and button placements are just becoz of your habits and you will get used to them, i personally had no such problems even after moving from a phone which had power button on the top and no camera button at all, so you'll learn to use it too.
I switched couple of week back... but don't have any serious issue
Hi,
Its sad that you are unhappy with Z2.
I recently switched my primary phone to z2 from iPhone 5S - although totally different OS but I like it as much I liked 5S (apart from Camera , I hope I will eventually learn how to take better pic with z2). Although this is not my first android(I published few unsuccessful apps/games on market) I used note1, xperia x10i, moto e etc.
And off course I don't want to root right now - as I am quite happy the apps/modded-android that comes with xperia. Just downloaded couple of apps I need and got help from XDA to transfer data from iPhone to z2.
But I must say I was terribly unhappy with Note 1- I don't know but started to hate that sh**t phone from the day 1.
Just waiting to receive lollypop update from Sony and may be in future I will stick to Sony and iPad(Love to use it ).
kunaltyagii said:
well if you havent kept a lot of data on your phone and is relatively fresh i'll suggest you downgrade and root right now before it becomes a full days work to backup your data. there are plenty of guides available in general forum showing how to do that. i guess your statement "managed to unlock", means you unlocked the bootloader, i hope you didnt before backing up the TA partition, writing on SD can be achieved after you root and install kitkat sd card patch or installing a ROM like MoonWalker by @Pandemic (i'm using it and it's really good btw), also there are plenty of other messaging apps now in the playstore along with different keyboards which should provide you with your desired features and emoticons, that's definitely not a reason not to like your phone.
also the camera and button placements are just becoz of your habits and you will get used to them, i personally had no such problems even after moving from a phone which had power button on the top and no camera button at all, so you'll learn to use it too.
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Thanks for your kind reply buddy (I ignore the impolite childish replies over here )
How you mean, backup my TA? I didn't, just used the instructions on Sony and other sites via fastboot.
Is that a big problem?
I was also thinking about downgrading, just the big task and problems you might run into is holding me back.
Regarding the smileys, it's no big issue, but these new Android Lollipop Emojis are awefull. I'm not the only with that opinion. Seems that they are implemented in all new Android apps. (or is it system level).
I'm looking forward to upgrade to Lollipop for the features. But I hope I will be rootable.
It least give me my SD back please. The rest I can live with.
I come from Resurrection remix. Also Pac are very nice ROMs.
Godyn said:
I formerly had a Galaxy S2, great machine, just getting a bit low on memory.
So i bought a fancy looking Z2 with top features, I even have a purple cover for it now! Yeaaahh.
Only,...
I'm totally not happy with my new 'flagship':
- Can't root on 4.4.4 (finally managed to unlock, jeeeej )
- Can't write to SD cart (because I can't root) with all my pictures, movies etc I just bought a 64Gb
- Kitkat 4.4.4 suddenly uses the most ugly emojis, yellow blobs and childish look
(I switched my S2 to Lollipop, great system but same childish design.)
- Go Sms, my favorite has less options (no scheduled messages etc)
- Some older apps won't work anymore?
Also:
- The Camera is not handy placed, just in a corner so you put your finger mostly on it
- Buttons are not handy placed, I regularly press the Camera button when picking up)
I hope you guys have any advice for me?
Except buying a Samsung ?
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You can't root 4.4.4? Bull****, there are enough rooting methods on these forums for that firmware. And yes, I know. it's a lot of work to root then, but that your only option for now. It is something different than having a Galaxy S2.
You can complain about not being able to write to your SD card to Google. They made changes in 4.4.4 causing that ****. It's bull****.
Kitkat uses ugly emojis? Those are the standard android emojis? If you don't like them, then that's you problem... It's your taste.
It sucks for your apps that don't work anymore, but that's not a problem with the Z2. The developer should update their app.
The camera is not handy placed? You knew where the camera was placed BEFORE buying this phone, so it's bull**** to complain about it after buying the phone instead of looking at this before making the decision of buying this phone. I don't have any problems with the camera placement.
Buttons are not handy placed? Preference I guess? You're used to having no camera button on your S2, also I can't relate to this problem accidentely pressing the camera button. It's totally you, I never have this. Maybe once? Twice? But not more.
If you already don't like this about the Z2, what will you not like about other phones? You will always be complaining no matter what phone you have. There are no perfect phones.
My Advice:
Flash and root your Z2 with Niaboc´s Method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/stock-4-4-4-23-0-1-0-167-bug-free-t2929402 (If you prefer Stock ROM)
Additionally Xposed Installer and Gravity Box and I bet, you´ll be pleased.
Also make you familiar with Root-Methods in the special Section http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2#root
eagle25884 said:
My Advice:
Flash and root your Z2 with Niaboc´s Method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/stock-4-4-4-23-0-1-0-167-bug-free-t2929402
Additionally Xposed Installer and Gravity Box and I bet, you´ll be pleased.
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Thx man,
Good advice !
Since I'm not rooted I can't install a recovery, right?
1) Install a recovery
I don't see how to flash it from that tut? What software to use to flash it?
I think I will go for a lollipop version in the end, but for now this seems a great Rom indeed !
About the Emojis,
I have the sony version (but seems on my Samsung also these)
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It's not that it's that important but my wife sends so many <3 <3 <3 and to me hahahahaha
But now it all looks like alian blobs to me
eagle25884 said:
My Advice:
Flash and root your Z2 with Niaboc´s Method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/stock-4-4-4-23-0-1-0-167-bug-free-t2929402 (If you prefer Stock ROM)
Additionally Xposed Installer and Gravity Box and I bet, you´ll be pleased.
Also make you familiar with Root-Methods in the special Section http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2#root
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The section says towelroot but that doesn't work for 4.4.4
Please note this is only one of many options. TowelRoot is currently a quicker and easier option. But the journey to root can be a fulfilling learning experience in itself.
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Xistenz is a great rom indeed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...m-existenz-ultimate-1-0-5-light-dark-t2835196
Guess the only option is going through the downgrade process?
What about the unlock TA that I didn't backup? Is it important?
OK, I've found out, it's about waranty.
Godyn said:
Thanks for your kind reply buddy (I ignore the impolite childish replies over here )
How you mean, backup my TA? I didn't, just used the instructions on Sony and other sites via fastboot.
Is that a big problem?
I was also thinking about downgrading, just the big task and problems you might run into is holding me back.
Regarding the smileys, it's no big issue, but these new Android Lollipop Emojis are awefull. I'm not the only with that opinion. Seems that they are implemented in all new Android apps. (or is it system level).
I'm looking forward to upgrade to Lollipop for the features. But I hope I will be rootable.
It least give me my SD back please. The rest I can live with.
I come from Resurrection remix. Also Pac are very nice ROMs.
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sorry to bring you the bad news buddy but by simply unlocking the bootloader you have voided your warranty and also any chance of getting the official sony lollipop update, the thing is after unlocking your bootloader you lose your DRM keys which are unrecoverable unless backed up before hand. and relocking the bootloader wont bring them back. it causes to lose some functionality like x-reality engine and playstation app wont work anymore, but the good thing is you can use a simpler method to root your device now, you dont have to downgrade. and you can now flash a kernel which is already rooted through fastboot method (i''m sorry i dont exactly know the method, as I rooted using different method), and also you can flash AOSP ROMS like PA and Also CM. also in future some devs will definitely bring some sony lollipop bsed FW so you can use them also. until you have some software related problem which require warranty, you should be fine.
kunaltyagii said:
sorry to bring you the bad news buddy but by simply unlocking the bootloader you have voided your warranty and also any chance of getting the official sony lollipop update, the thing is after unlocking your bootloader you lose your DRM keys which are unrecoverable unless backed up before hand. and relocking the bootloader wont bring them back. it causes to lose some functionality like x-reality engine and playstation app wont work anymore, but the good thing is you can use a simpler method to root your device now, you dont have to downgrade. and you can now flash a kernel which is already rooted through fastboot method (i''m sorry i dont exactly know the method, as I rooted using different method), and also you can flash AOSP ROMS like PA and Also CM. also in future some devs will definitely bring some sony lollipop bsed FW so you can use them also. until you have some software related problem which require warranty, you should be fine.
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Thank you so much for that info !!!
Ok then that's good news (until I have bad luck )
I hope I don't lose the Noise Cancelling option, that's my loved feature. I don't care about Playstation.
I will look for a LP version than, Looking at eXistenZ now.
Just figuring out how to flash it now without first rooting.
Thx again !
Godyn said:
About the Emojis,
I have the sony version (but seems on my Samsung also these)
It's not that it's that important but my wife sends so many <3 <3 <3 and to me hahahahaha
But now it all looks like alian blobs to me
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Download Emoji Switcher and you can choose from Samsung emoji, Google emoji and iOS emoji.
Godyn said:
Thank you so much for that info !!!
Ok then that's good news (until I have bad luck )
I hope I don't lose the Noise Cancelling option, that's my loved feature. I don't care about Playstation.
I will look for a LP version than, Looking at eXistenZ now.
Just figuring out how to flash it now without first rooting.
Thx again !
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You also loose Sony Bionz image processing which helps to reduce the low light camera noise. There's a method to restore some of those functionality you lost when you unlock the bootloader, find that thread. Next time do a bit of research before you do anything.
Half of the things you mentioned that you hate about Z2 are rather android 4.4 limitations than Z2 problems ?
Well simply you can use DRM feature restoration to restore the functions but it won't restore your lost TA.img file but the functionality.
Hope it will not be by passed with LP. Plus Once you come to Sony Devices you should always wait for LB root plus once you achieve that you're always good to go. If I were you I'd have done a small research on web that what kinda consequences that I will have to face if I unlock the BL. Plus I am on Unlocked BL and I am not receiving any single update now. Not even app updates
Godyn said:
I formerly had a Galaxy S2, great machine, just getting a bit low on memory.
So i bought a fancy looking Z2 with top features, I even have a purple cover for it now! Yeaaahh.
Only,...
I'm totally not happy with my new 'flagship':
- Can't root on 4.4.4 (finally managed to unlock, jeeeej )
- Can't write to SD cart (because I can't root) with all my pictures, movies etc I just bought a 64Gb
- Kitkat 4.4.4 suddenly uses the most ugly emojis, yellow blobs and childish look
(I switched my S2 to Lollipop, great system but same childish design.)
- Go Sms, my favorite has less options (no scheduled messages etc)
- Some older apps won't work anymore?
Also:
- The Camera is not handy placed, just in a corner so you put your finger mostly on it
- Buttons are not handy placed, I regularly press the Camera button when picking up)
I hope you guys have any advice for me?
Except buying a Samsung ?
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This is a joke right? The way i see it is you're actually unhappy with your own intelligence or would of been able to conquer these petty small things. Search each of your issues in the xda search box and you will find answers to the majority of them, read and educate yourself.
Godyn said:
I formerly had a Galaxy S2, great machine, just getting a bit low on memory.
So i bought a fancy looking Z2 with top features, I even have a purple cover for it now! Yeaaahh.
Only,...
I'm totally not happy with my new 'flagship':
- Can't root on 4.4.4 (finally managed to unlock, jeeeej )
- Can't write to SD cart (because I can't root) with all my pictures, movies etc I just bought a 64Gb
- Kitkat 4.4.4 suddenly uses the most ugly emojis, yellow blobs and childish look
(I switched my S2 to Lollipop, great system but same childish design.)
- Go Sms, my favorite has less options (no scheduled messages etc)
- Some older apps won't work anymore?
Also:
- The Camera is not handy placed, just in a corner so you put your finger mostly on it
- Buttons are not handy placed, I regularly press the Camera button when picking up)
I hope you guys have any advice for me?
Except buying a Samsung ?
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This reply makes me so hard laugh lol !!
well let me say this to you:
The Z2 is way better then any other Samsung device and you cant compare the Z2 with the lowest budget phone what i know like the GS2 (Z2 is a high budget device)
Well here are the answers:
- 4.4.4 is rootable, just search or use even google and tadaa !
you found it
- Flash a custom rom and learn to read the changelog because all the 4.4.4 Stock Custom Roms here have fixed that to wright to sd etc
- about the emoij`s, well i like them, so let we dont talk about Samsung`s childesh toy device with alot of plasic and even more worse Emoij`s
- the sms have alot of options you just need to find them
- the camera is well placed and we all like it !!
Advice and what i have to say is:
i guess you have your Z2 less then 1 day and now start already to complain about it and learn to read and to ssearch and to understand because then you get to know everything !!
Enjoy your stay with your Z2 what you totally dont like, it is a totally other device then Samsung, so there are differents, learn to respect and accept it.
Bye !
Once rooted there's a lot of possibilities, install Xposed Framework, then install Gravity Box, a lot of stuff's there.
Godyn said:
- Can't write to SD cart (because I can't root) with all my pictures, movies etc I just bought a 64Gb
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Search on Xposed "KitKat SD Full Access", it works like a charm.
Godyn said:
- Kitkat 4.4.4 suddenly uses the most ugly emojis, yellow blobs and childish look
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Change your emojis here.
Godyn said:
- Some older apps won't work anymore?
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I have no troubles with old apps.
Search a bit, nex time. Cheers.
Thx guys for all you help, also the less inspiring and impollite ones
If this is the new way of communicating and helping people,...?
Anyway, thanks to the many helpful guys ! There's hope
Yes, I know that you have to be rooted and after that the sky is almost the limit, I've installed my S2 a zillion of times. But see, on Z2 4.4.4. you can not easily root.
I will take the path to reinstall the previous version.
We're not all nerd like most of the peepz here And I'm not a noob either.
Found new ROM for Redmi Note 2:
http://www.cinafoniaci.com/smartphones/recensioni-octa-core/xiaomi-redmi-note2-cinafoniacirom
anyone tried?
Dead link, dead website ?
can someone make it for recovery?
borg79 said:
Dead link, dead website ?
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http://www.needrom.com/download/xiaomi-redmi-note-2-hermes-cinafoniaci-rom/
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razorinc said:
can someone make it for recovery?
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I have - but I'm not brave enough to try installing it
It is pretty good, I can confirm that logcat dos not show any errors. There does not seem to be an autobrightness issue. However, I do not like the design..
chris5932 said:
It is pretty good, I can confirm that logcat dos not show any errors. There does not seem to be an autobrightness issue. However, I do not like the design..
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That's encouraging (ie, minus the design preferences). What does battery life look like?
DarthJabba9 said:
That's encouraging (ie, minus the design preferences). What does battery life look like?
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Just did a quick test and went back to jo-san. Cant say anything about battery. Seemed like the other asop (but thats more a guess). Test yourself
chris5932 said:
Just did a quick test and went back to jo-san. Cant say anything about battery. Seemed like the other asop (but thats more a guess). Test yourself
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You went back to delirium protect v3?
What's the difference?
I might change to aosp soon but don't know yet which one
Javi22 said:
You went back to delirium protect v3?
What's the difference?
I might change to aosp soon but don't know yet which one
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No, I use the sense version. It has some bugs but for me it is acceptable (you wont find a perfect asop).
I just had one bug where I needed to take out battery (I could not unlock the screen although phone was still alive).
I installed this with the flashtool. It seems okay, and the interface (bog-standard Android?) is more familiar (to me at least) than the Miui interface.
Problems so far:
* seems not to support 5G WiFi (the Xiaomi ROMs support 5G WiFi) [Edit: miraculously, 5G WiFi is now working! ]
* battery percentage not shown
* can't see the patterns that you are drawing, if you are trying to protect the lock screen with a pattern
* my antivirus program doesn't like any of the themes apks that the Theme Manager is downloading (perhaps these are false positives - but I happen to trust my antivirus program)
chris5932 said:
No, I use the sense version. It has some bugs but for me it is acceptable (you wont find a perfect asop).
I just had one bug where I needed to take out battery (I could not unlock the screen although phone was still alive).
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What kind of screen on time are you getting? On the AOSP ROMs I struggle to hit 2 hours and day of use so i went back to MIUI.
syl0n said:
What kind of screen on time are you getting? On the AOSP ROMs I struggle to hit 2 hours and day of use so i went back to MIUI.
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With deactivated touch boost I get almost 2 Days of moderate usage, SOT is 4-5h.
2 hours is not normal id say..
DarthJabba9 said:
can't see the patterns that you are drawing, if you are trying to protect the lock screen with a pattern
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Yes, pattern unlock is a bit tricky, you need to draw an invisible pattern before Smart Lock becomes available. Then there is an option to make the pattern visible. Maybe proceed with caution
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Here are excerpts from comments I posted about the rom in another forum:
"A couple of days ago, I noticed the new Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Cinafoniaci AOSP Rom on Needrom. It took my interest because the creator, Simone Quarrera is also the developer of Space MTK Tool [project to update MTK Droid Tools for 64 bit devices].
I have been using the rom for a day plus & so far it is excellent. I am most impressed that the latest version of Xposed Installer ran immediately without issue. Last week, I tried AOSP Rom V3 by MD Steam, but Xposed wouldn't work, so I quickly abandoned it. I was resigned to staying with Miui & waiting for WSM Tools [Xposed alternative] to be updated to Miui 7. But now, I am happy to be back in familiar aosp territory. I like some things about Miui, e.g. beautiful themes and the stock apps, camera, compass & browser [smooth flash player]. I have made a custom backup of my last miui rom, so can go back & compare some time.
On first boot, the rom gives the option of retaining apps & settings from the previously installed rom. I didn't choose this option, preferring Titanium Backup to set up. Here are some features of the rom:
Material TWRP 2.8.7
Mobile Space Tool – includes Xposed, SuperSU, ADBD Insecure, Eng. Mode, Cpu Freq, Viper4 Android FX, Custom Themes
Stock Launcher is similar to Nova/Apex but with less options & can be coupled with the rom's themes
Miravision & ClearMotion
OTA updates – work in progress, I think
Notification leds working, but are not included in System Settings. A third party app is necessary. I am using Light Manager.
Battery life seems similar to Miui 7. Here is a screenshot of screen on time with battery at 57%:"
kusala said:
Yes, pattern unlock is a bit tricky, you need to draw an invisible pattern before Smart Lock becomes available. Then there is an option to make the pattern visible. Maybe proceed with caution
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Thanks. But IMHO, that is a bug.
DarthJabba9 said:
Thanks. But IMHO, that is a bug.
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I think the developer will appreciate any feedback on bugs. Probably, the best place for this is Needrom [unless you're able to post in the Italian forum].
By the way, I don't use a screen lock, so pattern unlock is not an issue for me....
I am really happy with this rom & will likely stay with it. When I have time, I will under clock to see if battery life is extended. On miui 7 v. 5.11.1, I under clocked to 1.625 Ghz as the phone felt hot in the hand [I live in a hot climate]. I was surprised to see that on screen time life extended way beyond 6 hours [note: not 'normal' conditions, i.e. at home, wifi on, mobile data/gps/bluetooth disabled; ds battery saver to limit wake locks ]. Under clocked, the PC Mark Battery Life Test result was 6 hours 56 minutes [average for RN2 is 6 hours 4 minutes]. For me, under clocking didn't affect performance on the miui rom. Edit: Under clocked to 1.625 ghz → some lag in task switching/opening apps, no improvement in battery life.
@kusala thank you so much for your review
I was thinking about trying aosp too, mainly because of xposed and because some things of miui need to be improved yet in my opinion
However I need to decide between this and delirium proyect, maybe I'll try both. Did you try that one?
On the other hand, just for curious why are you so xposed dependant? Which modules do you need more?
And...anyone has a reliable zip for recovery of cinafoniaci?
Thanks
Sent from my Redmi Note 2 using Tapatalk
Javi22 said:
@kusala thank you so much for your review
I was thinking about trying aosp too, mainly because of xposed and because some things of miui need to be improved yet in my opinion
However I need to decide between this and delirium proyect, maybe I'll try both. Did you try that one?
On the other hand, just for curious why are you so xposed dependant? Which modules do you need more?
And...anyone has a reliable zip for recovery of cinafoniaci?
Thanks
Sent from my Redmi Note 2 using Tapatalk
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I haven't tried Delirium. The reason I flashed the Cinafoniaci rom is because I have seen other work by the developer & have confidence in his ability. If you contact Simone via Needrom with a request for a custom zipped rom, he may be able to help. I made a custom backup of my last miui rom, so wasn't concerned about using sp flash tool.
Re xposed, I currently have 13 modules installed. The ones most useful are Gravity Box [so many options], RecentApp Clear [improves recent apps in the Cina rom], Fix Lollipop Memory Leak, YouTube AdaAway & Xposed Torch [vol up activates torch when screen off].
chris5932 said:
No, I use the sense version. It has some bugs but for me it is acceptable (you wont find a perfect asop).
I just had one bug where I needed to take out battery (I could not unlock the screen although phone was still alive).
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I'm having a hard time to choose between Sense7 or Hybrid.. Have you tried both ROMs? IF so, which did you like most?
kusala said:
I haven't tried Delirium. The reason I flashed the Cinafoniaci rom is because I have seen other work by the developer & have confidence in his ability. If you contact Simone via Needrom with a request for a custom zipped rom, he may be able to help. I made a custom backup of my last miui rom, so wasn't concerned about using sp flash tool.
Re xposed, I currently have 13 modules installed. The ones most useful are Gravity Box [so many options], RecentApp Clear [improves recent apps in the Cina rom], Fix Lollipop Memory Leak, YouTube AdaAway & Xposed Torch [vol up activates torch when screen off].
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So useful, thanks mate
Hello LG G5 users , feel free to talk here about anything related to the LG G5 :good:
Thread Rules
1. Respect the others
2. This is an LG G5 thread , do not talk about any other LG phone here.
3. Use appropriate langage.
4. And of course , respect xda rules.
So what do you think about this LG phone ?
Hi guys , thread opened thanks to @KennyG123 , now that the G5 is out and available for sale feel free to share your experience in this discussion thread.
I will update it later with infos , reviews , battery tests..etc.
Enjoy
This is my first impression of the G5 and I'm sure once the stock and custom roms start rolling out I will have a much better experience with my phone. I picked up my new LG G5 a hour ago from my local Sprint retailer and I have already run into a few problems that kind of bother me about the phone. I switched from my Nexus 6 to this phone and I would have to say I do enjoy the feel of the phone and the fact of it being smaller and easier to hold. This is the only good thing I have really noticed about the phone so far though. The volume rocker on the left side of the phone seems very strange and would be much more ergonomic with it remaining on the back or on the right side to be easily accessible with the thumb. The G5 does not have an app drawer with the current software even though there were leaks saying that they were actually going to end up adding the app drawer for this phone. The software seems as if it went for a more Apple style design with a more vivid color scheme. I ended up looking through some of the apps and there are advertisements in the voicemail app which just seems wrong. I have already ran into a bug which should be expected with any new release of a phone of course and this bug happens when I double tap on a notification on the lock screen it locks the screen instead of opening the application which I really hope wasn't the intended purpose. So far the phone isn't as great as I expected it to be.
@CorruptProfile Thank you very much sir for this first well detailed feedback.
How about other things like the camera , performance ( if you tried any intensive game ) ? Is it buttery smooth or LG 5.0 UX suffer from lags ?
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This is my first impression of the G5 and I'm sure once the stock and custom roms start rolling out I will have a much better experience with my phone. I picked up my new LG G5 a hour ago from my local Sprint retailer and I have already run into a few problems that kind of bother me about the phone. I switched from my Nexus 6 to this phone and I would have to say I do enjoy the feel of the phone and the fact of it being smaller and easier to hold. This is the only good thing I have really noticed about the phone so far though. The volume rocker on the left side of the phone seems very strange and would be much more ergonomic with it remaining on the back or on the right side to be easily accessible with the thumb. The G5 does not have an app drawer with the current software even though there were leaks saying that they were actually going to end up adding the app drawer for this phone. The software seems as if it went for a more Apple style design with a more vivid color scheme. I ended up looking through some of the apps and there are advertisements in the voicemail app which just seems wrong. I have already ran into a bug which should be expected with any new release of a phone of course and this bug happens when I double tap on a notification on the lock screen it locks the screen instead of opening the application which I really hope wasn't the intended purpose. So far the phone isn't as great as I expected it to be.
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Have you checked right? T-Mobile users said that the app drawer is there, like seen in the GUI Official Video (not a leek)
Killua96 said:
Have you checked right? T-Mobile users said that the app drawer is there, like seen in the GUI Official Video (not a leek)
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It is there if you use easy mode on your launcher as far as i know.
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It is there if you use easy mode on your launcher as far as i know.
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Nope, there is a third option shown in the UX 5.0 video and confirmed by T-Mobile users
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk8Zs3Mlbcs
Look at 2:19
I only really play Clash of Clans as far as game intensive on my phone and it ran very smoothly for the little bit that I was on it. The camera is far superior to any phone I have had in the past and the quality is great. The option for the regular launcher with an app drawer does not exist on my device which is no problem since I do not like the launcher in general and the Google Now Launcher is far superior to LG's. The biggest problem I have started to see with the device now is the fact the battery is weak as can be. I'm not sure if there isn't enough data collected yet to give an accurate estimate on how long the battery will last. I took the first screenshot of the battery usage before I used any high usage applications and it already was showing that my phone would last an hour and 47 minutes when it was at 41%. I would add screenshots to this but, I don't have over 10 posts yet so that isn't possible so I sent them to @Soufiansky so he can post them instead.
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I only really play Clash of Clans as far as game intensive on my phone and it ran very smoothly for the little bit that I was on it. The camera is far superior to any phone I have had in the past and the quality is great. The option for the regular launcher with an app drawer does not exist on my device which is no problem since I do not like the launcher in general and the Google Now Launcher is far superior to LG's. The biggest problem I have started to see with the device now is the fact the battery is weak as can be. I'm not sure if there isn't enough data collected yet to give an accurate estimate on how long the battery will last. I took the first screenshot of the battery usage before I used any high usage applications and it already was showing that my phone would last an hour and 47 minutes when it was at 41%. I would add screenshots to this but, I don't have over 10 posts yet so that isn't possible so I sent them to @Soufiansky so he can post them instead.
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Thank you again for the feedback , when i come back home i will post the links you send me in pm
Thanks to @CorruptProfile
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How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?
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How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?
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It is 5.3" , way smaller than the huge Nexus 6.
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It is 5.3" , way smaller than the huge Nexus 6.
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I was going to get the S7 Edge but it's not rootable, so it is a huge deterrent for me
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I was going to get the S7 Edge but it's not rootable, so it is a huge deterrent for me
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You can wait for the M10 , and for root it will come one day , patience
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You can wait for the M10 , and for root it will come one day , patience
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The M10 is waayyyyy too small for me ;/
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How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?
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I came from the Nexus 6 as well and honestly I like the size of the G5 it is smaller but not too small in the hand where it feels like you are holding nothing.
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The M10 is waayyyyy too small for me ;/
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Note 5 ? Nexus 6P ? We're going in an off topic here...
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I came from the Nexus 6 as well and honestly I like the size of the G5 it is smaller but not too small in the hand where it feels like you are holding nothing.
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What about the module thing ? I saw a lot of issues about it these days
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I don't own a module and I don't really see the purpose of owning one to be completely honest. It's basically just buying add-ons if you prefer having them or not. I enjoy having the naked look of a sleek looking phone without having a bunch of stuff all over it. It really comes down to the person if they want the parts or not and personally I don't the parts won't make the phone any worse and if the modules really just fail then it won't have any overall effect on the performance of the phone itself.
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I don't own a module and I don't really see the purpose of owning one to be completely honest. It's basically just buying add-ons if you prefer having them or not. I enjoy having the naked look of a sleek looking phone without having a bunch of stuff all over it. It really comes down to the person if they want the parts or not and personally I don't the parts won't make the phone any worse and if the modules really just fail then it won't have any overall effect on the performance of the phone itself.
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No i was talking about the stock battery module , you haven't faced any issue ? Because some people were reporting bad screen colors reproduction next to the module , others said it started taking off....etc.
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Hi to every lucky body that get android 7 final.i made this topic to share your results in android 7 and compare with yours in android 6..like camera..battery..speed..tanx and hope to be usefull and active topic??????
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Well, it's a tiny bit snappier, and a tiny bit faster overall.
The battery is better; I get 3:45 to 4 hours SOT in auto brightness, full location services with wireless scanning, google now on, google cards on, hot word on from any screen... the full google experience, for short.
It's better than I had with a variety of mods and ROMs on Marshmallow.
I especially enjoy the new notification center. I can read numerous full messages and emails right from the notification slide. Quite awesome.
And I thank the gods of Google for removing the stupid enlarged tiles for Wireless and Bluetooth, the most annoying feature ever.
Battery is not bad for stock but I get the feeling with all mods and tweaks and kernels and such android M was a bit better...
But it would be unfair to compare those two as M has been worked on for a year now... N is fresh out of the box so let's wait and see how much battery can be improved.
Other than that N is very fluent and fast. Up to now also very stable and offers some important options that used to be mods some years ago.
Camera... And such... Did not really compare but would expect them to be similar...
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Other than that N is very fluent and fast. Up to now also very stable and offers some important options that used to be mods some years ago.
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I haven't tried N yet, but I was reading a comment on Slashdot that led me to believe, that it included something similar to CM13 privacy manager ? Is this true? Do you now get to choose what apps get access to? Can you block them from wireless, cellular data?
^ This feature alone made me upgrade the wife's and kids tablets from Nexus 7s to Nexus 7 (2013)s so I could put them on CM13.
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I haven't tried N yet, but I was reading a comment on Slashdot that led me to believe, that it included something similar to CM13 privacy manager ? Is this true? Do you now get to choose what apps get access to? Can you block them from wireless, cellular data?
^ This feature alone made me upgrade the wife's and kids tablets from Nexus 7s to Nexus 7 (2013)s so I could put them on CM13.
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No, but you can do that from Data Usage in Settings, in M as well.
I've been using it for 2 days now. The doze feature is way better than that of M. I've noticed certain performance boost in games like asphalt 8 as the game used to lag after thermal throttling was active in M.
The usage is very very smooth, feels very light. I mostly love the quick settings panel as because it looks and is well organised than the previous version. It's just an initial build and its quite stable. I would say I am impressed and good to go with 7.0.
Well this was my perspective.
I think charging while screen is on is improved. Can someone confirm?
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I think charging while screen is on is improved. Can someone confirm?
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Not entirely sure... NExus 5x has quite some struggle with charging when screen on.
Under M there was almost no charging when screen was on and you did some browsing...
Might be slightly better under N... though I havent tested it long enough to confirm... Charging basically stopped when you used your phone constantly and not just for writing a text under M...
Nope, seems same like before.
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Edit: it actually seems better, I'm using my phone on charger for about 10mins, and ampere measures around 1100mAh.
On MM it wouldn't go to more than 300mAh while screen on.
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Nightshadow931 said:
Nope, seems same like before.
Edit: it actually seems better, I'm using my phone on charger for about 10mins, and ampere measures around 1100mAh.
On MM it wouldn't go to more than 300mAh while screen on.
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I tested it while playing a game (8 ball pool, not a resource intensive app) and the percentage went up atleast 2 to 3 % in roughly 5-10 minutes. It seems that it is improved. But we still need someone to look through the kernel's code or run a reliable test!
I have it on my 5x since it dropped was on dp5 before that. Official seems smoother don't really use the 5x since I got the s7.
I'm actually seeing what seems to be worse battery performance. I've eliminated a few apps that were troublesome, but it looks like the battery is draining faster than on "M". I'm hoping that it's simply a problem with the crappy cell signal in my office - my connection bounces between 27 different towers and it's still crappy at best.
Atleast for me, I can confirm that charging while screen on is finally fixed. Hail hydra!
As previously stated, it feels a lot snappier and lighter being on Nougat as opposed to Marshmallow. Quick Settings are better overall, especially when you're able to add custom quick tiles via apps in the Play Store. Only complaint about the Quick Settings is that the Wifi and Bluetooth used to toggle on press, then open mini settings when you clicked the text. Now it just opens mini settings. I can get used to that, though.
Oh, and I still hate the white background in the settings app. Haven't found any Layers themes that work well yet. If anybody else finds one, let me know.
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As previously stated, it feels a lot snappier and lighter being on Nougat as opposed to Marshmallow. Quick Settings are better overall, especially when you're able to add custom quick tiles via apps in the Play Store. Only complaint about the Quick Settings is that the Wifi and Bluetooth used to toggle on press, then open mini settings when you clicked the text. Now it just opens mini settings. I can get used to that, though.
Oh, and I still hate the white background in the settings app. Haven't found any Layers themes that work well yet. If anybody else finds one, let me know.
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Just rooted the final N and put Substratum and Mono Theme on. Settings awesomely dark with other theme goodies.
new useful features, more usr friendly interface, for me - good change
enzo_cz said:
Just rooted the final N and put Substratum and Mono Theme on. Settings awesomely dark with other theme goodies.
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How did you get Substratum working?
bhs73 said:
How did you get Substratum working?
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Upon getting my phone rooted I downloaded it from PlayStore, installed, did the permissions, insalled Mono theme and that was it.
enzo_cz said:
Upon getting my phone rooted I downloaded it from PlayStore, installed, did the permissions, insalled Mono theme and that was it.
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Oh, that easy? Thanks man, I owe you a beer.
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Oh, that easy? Thanks man, I owe you a beer.
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Important, there are sorta probs about Substratum and Android N, such as make sure you wont apply it to Chrome and Documents for example. You'd get instant force close. And if there's any other app like that, you need to make sure it is off the list to get themed.